Taurus Impulsive?

My girl and I are close to celebrating our 2nd year anniversary when she seems to have been very depressed lately because of her work.

Last weekend, a lot of things were upsetting her and she went home on Saturday instead of out with me and then Sunday was very irritable and decided to go home again instead of coming over. It seemed like a very impulsive decision and she seems like a hothead a lot of the time (might be family's genetics).

Are all Tauruses/Earth signs that quick to get angry? I have been around other Earth signs and at least the guys seem to be less angsty. The Taurus males seem to be quite congruent and stable most of the time, at least.

Anyways, my girl got upset and seems to have gone on a break. I disappeared because I did not want to have anything to do with her break but she keeps reaching out and claiming she wants to come over and visit, asks me whether I will be hanging out with at an event this upcoming Saturday, wants to video-chat and talk more often since last weekend, etc. Is she regretting her outburst from last weekend? She does not seem too bothered about going on a break and I have no interest in just a friendship, but nothing has been discussed whatsoever.

Posted by dilettante

does she have aries in her chart?

Not sure. April 23, 1995.

just a suggestion but maybe you could try being understanding and patient with her.

if she is going through a stressful period the last thing she needs is you behaving like a toddler.

I have always been super patient although I find getting angry seems to get better results with a Taurus. (Bad to say but seems to be true!)

She is trying to tell me that I cannot stay over there and she cannot stay over here, so she clearly isn't interested in "us" right now.

Posted by piscesman707

I have always been super patient although I find getting angry seems to get better results with a Taurus. (Bad to say but seems to be true!)

She is trying to tell me that I cannot stay over there and she cannot stay over here, so she clearly isn't interested in "us" right now.

you don't know that is the case but instead of finding out and talking to her, you've chosen to "disappear".

Posted by piscesman707

I have always been super patient although I find getting angry seems to get better results with a Taurus. (Bad to say but seems to be true!)

She is trying to tell me that I cannot stay over there and she cannot stay over here, so she clearly isn't interested in "us" right now.

sounds like she has been dealing with a lot of stress (for her). She sounds like she is mulling things over and is overwhelmed.

If she is putting distance between you guys there is a reason. 2 of the most common reasons are, doesn't want to take it out on you or the relationship. The other you being another source of stress for whatever reason.

The fact that she still maintains contact with you means she does care. If your not up for this nor can you be more supportive, then feel free to walk away like you want to.

Edit: do you feel strongly enough for her to stick around? There is no shame in not being up for it btw.

If so, she would be more likely to respond better to, helping her figure out what is wrong, what she wants, a sense of direction to achieve it , and then positive reinforcement & encouragement. I call this the cheerleader support angle.

"A emotional blanket" type of support may not be the best approach with someone with that much fire. If your not capable of this or unwilling to try, do what you can and leave her be.

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Posted by piscesman707

I have always been super patient although I find getting angry seems to get better results with a Taurus. (Bad to say but seems to be true!)

She is trying to tell me that I cannot stay over there and she cannot stay over here, so she clearly isn't interested in "us" right now.

you don't know that is the case but instead of finding out and talking to her, you've chosen to "disappear".

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I haven't chosen to disappear but she wants to be more distant right now when we should be discussing our issues together and makes decisions together. She lacks the relationship experience to realize it is a group decision rather than a solo decision lately.

Pisces more than Taurus is the glue that keeps the relationship together, from what I have seen.

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I have always been super patient although I find getting angry seems to get better results with a Taurus. (Bad to say but seems to be true!)

She is trying to tell me that I cannot stay over there and she cannot stay over here, so she clearly isn't interested in "us" right now.

you don't know that is the case but instead of finding out and talking to her, you've chosen to "disappear".

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I haven't chosen to disappear but she wants to be more distant right now when we should be discussing our issues together and makes decisions together. She lacks the relationship experience to realize it is a group decision rather than a solo decision lately.

Pisces more than Taurus is the glue that keeps the relationship together, from what I have seen.

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so if she lacks the experience and you have the experience then even more reason to be patient with her "mistakes" rather than punishing her with your attitude.

yes, i can see that your pisces attitude is really keeping things on track.

I find Taurus's to be rather capricious in a cute childish way. They forget 4 hours later. They'll forget even faster if you bring them a large plate of food.

However, when they start distancing themselves or causing pbs out of nowhere, it's because it's the beginning of the end.

Thank you LalasReturn. That is really what I am experiencing and I have no interest in someone who cannot commit or discuss issues in a mature way. I am standing my ground and avoiding her.

Posted by piscesman707

Thank you LalasReturn. That is really what I am experiencing and I have no interest in someone who cannot commit or discuss issues in a mature way. I am standing my ground and avoiding her.

But she is trying to communicate with you. Your the one who is refusing to 'discuss issues in a mature way' by 'avoiding her'.

Sac up or move out the way so she can move onto the next.

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However, when they start distancing themselves or causing pbs out of nowhere, it's because it's the beginning of the end.

Exactly! Regardless of the signs...

Posted by piscesman707

Thank you LalasReturn. That is really what I am experiencing and I have no interest in someone who cannot commit or discuss issues in a mature way. I am standing my ground and avoiding her.

Good for you!

Fuck these moody bitches!!!

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Posted by piscesman707

Thank you LalasReturn. That is really what I am experiencing and I have no interest in someone who cannot commit or discuss issues in a mature way. I am standing my ground and avoiding her.

But she is trying to communicate with you. Your the one who is refusing to 'discuss issues in a mature way' by 'avoiding her'.

Sac up or move out the way so she can move onto the next.

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Wrong. She refuses to discuss her behaviour or immature temper tantrums. She is more keen than she has been for months to behave. Now she is because she is fearing the loss and realizing her capricious behaviour. She is throwing her schedule for next week at me. I'm not avoiding her, I am protecting my best interests as an individual and as an adult. She can choose to act less impulsively or get out.

Posted by piscesman707

I have always been super patient although I find getting angry seems to get better results with a Taurus. (Bad to say but seems to be true!)

She is trying to tell me that I cannot stay over there and she cannot stay over here, so she clearly isn't interested in "us" right now.

Agreed. You have to stand your ground with this sign. If you cater to her completely, she will take advantage. I have Taurus female friends and they don’t respect men they could push over easily.

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Posted by piscesman707

I have always been super patient although I find getting angry seems to get better results with a Taurus. (Bad to say but seems to be true!)

She is trying to tell me that I cannot stay over there and she cannot stay over here, so she clearly isn't interested in "us" right now.

Agreed. You have to stand your ground with this sign. If you cater to her completely, she will take advantage. I have Taurus female friends and they don’t respect men they could push over easily.

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Taurus men are similar.

The patience and waiting runs out eventually.

And they are shocked you don't feel loved when they aren't capable of discussing things and distance themselves instead. 😆

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Posted by piscesman707

I have always been super patient although I find getting angry seems to get better results with a Taurus. (Bad to say but seems to be true!)

She is trying to tell me that I cannot stay over there and she cannot stay over here, so she clearly isn't interested in "us" right now.

Agreed. You have to stand your ground with this sign. If you cater to her completely, she will take advantage. I have Taurus female friends and they don’t respect men they could push over easily.

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Yeah, but that doesnt mean to demand that his needs get met or that she stops acting like that. She is erratic cause she

is stressed and overwhelmed. I expect compassion and understanding from my loved ones when I am down on the ground or acting desperately. But he is focused on how her behavior has hurt him. I thought a water guy would not sulk, stomach the hurt and takes the reign in an understanding way. I have seen Cancer Man do it. They show up at her place with her favorite icecream and tell her, that we will slow dance and then chat a bit (code for confronting in a gentle way). They help manage the womans emotions and shrug of the hurt rather than feeling their pride insulted.

I honestly thought he would be understanding and selfless and knows exactly how to play her sensitivities to open up. In Situations like this water people

are typically better at taking charge than more masculine Signs.

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Posted by piscesman707

I have always been super patient although I find getting angry seems to get better results with a Taurus. (Bad to say but seems to be true!)

She is trying to tell me that I cannot stay over there and she cannot stay over here, so she clearly isn't interested in "us" right now.

Agreed. You have to stand your ground with this sign. If you cater to her completely, she will take advantage. I have Taurus female friends and they don’t respect men they could push over easily.

Yeah, but that doesnt mean to demand that his needs get met or that she stops acting like that. She is erratic cause she

is stressed and overwhelmed. I expect compassion and understanding from my loved ones when I am down on the ground or acting desperately. But he is focused on how her behavior has hurt him. I thought a water guy would not sulk, stomach the hurt and takes the reign in an understanding way. I have seen Cancer Man do it. They show up at her place with her favorite icecream and tell her, that we will slow dance and then chat a bit (code for confronting in a gentle way). They help manage the womans emotions and shrug of the hurt rather than feeling their pride insulted.

I honestly thought he would be understanding and selfless and knows exactly how to play her sensitivities to open up. In Situations like this water people

are typically better at taking charge than more masculine Signs.

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i'm honestly stunned that some people are advocating otherwise. when did partners become our adversaries that need to be put in their place?

is this how people operate in their relationships? constant power plays? is that successful?

I would leave her alone but otherwise she has no one else in her life for friends. She does not seem to appreciate the people who are in her life. The fact that she claims I don't make her happy and then reaches shows obviously I make her somewhat happy. 😉

Some relationships it is a constant power-play. I feel like she is always keeping track on what people do for her, which isn't a healthy way to have a relationship at all. She seems to want someone who could pay her way all the time and I don't think that is healthy either. It does not help that it seems like her mother is preaching all of this 'money before love' business.

I’m impulsive, but I also have my mercury in Aries, and my mars and moon both oppose Uranus. Most Taurus aren’t impulsive tho. I’m impulsive about certain things and take my time with other things. I get angry easily and make bad decisions when angry. Like last week I broke it off with my Scorpio only to regret it the next day.

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Posted by piscesman707

I have always been super patient although I find getting angry seems to get better results with a Taurus. (Bad to say but seems to be true!)

She is trying to tell me that I cannot stay over there and she cannot stay over here, so she clearly isn't interested in "us" right now.

Agreed. You have to stand your ground with this sign. If you cater to her completely, she will take advantage. I have Taurus female friends and they don’t respect men they could push over easily.

Yeah, but that doesnt mean to demand that his needs get met or that she stops acting like that. She is erratic cause she

is stressed and overwhelmed. I expect compassion and understanding from my loved ones when I am down on the ground or acting desperately. But he is focused on how her behavior has hurt him. I thought a water guy would not sulk, stomach the hurt and takes the reign in an understanding way. I have seen Cancer Man do it. They show up at her place with her favorite icecream and tell her, that we will slow dance and then chat a bit (code for confronting in a gentle way). They help manage the womans emotions and shrug of the hurt rather than feeling their pride insulted.

I honestly thought he would be understanding and selfless and knows exactly how to play her sensitivities to open up. In Situations like this water people

are typically better at taking charge than more masculine Signs.

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She seems to be controlled by her mother so I returned her things and going to do the slow fade.

I did all that I could in this scenario. She told me last night she loved me and looked forward to seeing me today and then was warped when she suddenly wanted to return our items, so I left right after. I don't hangout with ex's and she isn't on my Facebook (and hasn't been for weeks now).

It's not my job to fix the relationship and now I can focus on my own happiness.

No romance if no finance.

That is a load of bull. I have dated people because I loved them when they were unemployed and they have dated me when I was out of work and happened to have met them at less-than-ideal times. If you want to selectively date people, great, but you are going to be not only superficial but lonely forever.

Is she mad because she’s broke and you’re not paying her way?

Her family has had bad luck and her dad hasn't been bringing home a lot of money for years now so her mom is trying to brainwash her to marry for money first and love secondly. I have told her that is wrong and it is. I have discussed this with many friends and it put them into a rage.

Hates being busy with work because she misses out?

Hates being stuck in a dead-end job and no friends to hangout with at the end of the work-week, it seems.

Why would you say getting angry works with a Taurus?

I have seen Taurus backing down from an angry Pisces. If a Pisces gets angry, it can be Axl Rose tantrum scary.

Taurus definitely seems to need to be lead, even though they give the impression they don't. They also seem to need boundaries to be established against them or they will keep pushing them.

So she’s already angry, so you get angrier than her angry to shut her up?

They have uncontrollable rages and they really need to leave the room/house and calm down elsewhere. My girl clearly is in need of anger management more than the other Tauruses I've met.

Is this what all your relationship experience has led you to believe?

She’d be plotting her revenge when she’s distant.

This statement seems to be line of personal projection.

Don’t retaliate a fixed sign woman.

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Nonsense. You just suggested she would retaliate but oftentimes in her case, her uncontrollable anger is the cause of issues and amplifies them further. If a any sign cannot control themselves, they will be single and very lonely. Of course, from what I have read, it seems that happens a lot to this sign due to their perfectionism like Virgo. If they cannot control their anger, they will end up in jail with others who cannot communicate properly. (Another issue with this sign, from what I have witnessed.)

Posted by piscesman707



It's not my job to fix the relationship.

Brilliant. The philosophy behind every successful relationship.

She sounds overwhelmed and a little under developed when it comes to handling her emotions. I can relate. It is hard to consider the emotions of others when you feel like you are drowning in your own. However, it needs to be made clear that the world does not evolve around her and her emotions. In a gentle way mind you if you want it to work out in the end. Patience is key. Help her make time for your relationship. Time management and meditation were super hard for me growing up, just slowing down in general! Set a time and date when you are both free and low stress (in relation) to talk. She will probably apologize even! If she's keeping contact at all while stressed, that's a big thing actually. I can be really selfish with my time when I'm overwhelmed. Just being a support for her during this stressful time will help, because things will calm down. That's life, peaks and valleys. If you can't ride the waves together, it won't last.

Posted by AbbyNormal

She sounds overwhelmed and a little under developed when it comes to handling her emotions. I can relate. It is hard to consider the emotions of others when you feel like you are drowning in your own. However, it needs to be made clear that the world does not evolve around her and her emotions. In a gentle way mind you if you want it to work out in the end. Patience is key. Help her make time for your relationship. Time management and meditation were super hard for me growing up, just slowing down in general! Set a time and date when you are both free and low stress (in relation) to talk. She will probably apologize even! If she's keeping contact at all while stressed, that's a big thing actually. I can be really selfish with my time when I'm overwhelmed. Just being a support for her during this stressful time will help, because things will calm down. That's life, peaks and valleys. If you can't ride the waves together, it won't last.

This guy has spent the last two years coming here to complain about this woman and basically imply that there is something wrong with her, her behaviour and she is not conforming to his wishes. He seeks advice here to see how he can get her to be the person he expects her to be or control her.

I would recommend flicking through his history.

There is something off about him

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Posted by AbbyNormal

She sounds overwhelmed and a little under developed when it comes to handling her emotions. I can relate. It is hard to consider the emotions of others when you feel like you are drowning in your own. However, it needs to be made clear that the world does not evolve around her and her emotions. In a gentle way mind you if you want it to work out in the end. Patience is key. Help her make time for your relationship. Time management and meditation were super hard for me growing up, just slowing down in general! Set a time and date when you are both free and low stress (in relation) to talk. She will probably apologize even! If she's keeping contact at all while stressed, that's a big thing actually. I can be really selfish with my time when I'm overwhelmed. Just being a support for her during this stressful time will help, because things will calm down. That's life, peaks and valleys. If you can't ride the waves together, it won't last.

This guy has spent the last two years coming here to complain about this woman and basically imply that there is something wrong with her, her behaviour and she is not conforming to his wishes. He seeks advice here to see how he can get her to be the person he expects her to be or control her.

I would recommend flicking through his history.

There is something off about him

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AbbyNormal, thank you for the best reply this thread has seen in ages.

She has had tests done when she was a child by her parents and the doctors could not find anything /noticeable/ wrong with her. Many people who I have consulted, guys and girls, have been stumped by her behaviour over the last two years. I have had people tell me to simply walk away because she does not, as AbbyNormal say, seem to be able to handle her own emotions, etc.

Everyone has expectations in a relationship, Jeane. I have seen your replies here and it makes me wonder about your status in life here, since so many of your posts are negative and seem to be slanted against guys in relationships. None of your posts seem to actually help anyone from what I have seen, they just seem to exist to enflame other posters' worries and whatnot.

Not trying to control her but she has admitted herself that she lacks the relationship experience, especially when a relationship gets more serious and there is talk about having a house together and a family, sharing financials and so forth.

One could even argue that because her parents have had an unstable marriage, it seems that they are not the best influences on her life. No doubt having a partner with parents who have always been active in their son's lives would be a better influence.

I have been extremely patient because she does not have as much life experience and does seem to get overwhelmed easier than most.

We relaxed and watched a movie together yesterday and it felt more like when we first started dating where we each took care of each other and were laughing a lot. At the end of the night, we were both super happy with our day out. 🙂

Since we have known each other for almost 3 years now and dated for two, we have seen a lot of these 'waves' together and have been there for each other. Yesterday seemed to fix a lot of our superficial issues as of late so here is to things improving from here onwards.

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Posted by AbbyNormal

She sounds overwhelmed and a little under developed when it comes to handling her emotions. I can relate. It is hard to consider the emotions of others when you feel like you are drowning in your own. However, it needs to be made clear that the world does not evolve around her and her emotions. In a gentle way mind you if you want it to work out in the end. Patience is key. Help her make time for your relationship. Time management and meditation were super hard for me growing up, just slowing down in general! Set a time and date when you are both free and low stress (in relation) to talk. She will probably apologize even! If she's keeping contact at all while stressed, that's a big thing actually. I can be really selfish with my time when I'm overwhelmed. Just being a support for her during this stressful time will help, because things will calm down. That's life, peaks and valleys. If you can't ride the waves together, it won't last.

This guy has spent the last two years coming here to complain about this woman and basically imply that there is something wrong with her, her behaviour and she is not conforming to his wishes. He seeks advice here to see how he can get her to be the person he expects her to be or control her.

I would recommend flicking through his history.

There is something off about him

AbbyNormal, thank you for the best reply this thread has seen in ages.

She has had tests done when she was a child by her parents and the doctors could not find anything /noticeable/ wrong with her. Many people who I have consulted, guys and girls, have been stumped by her behaviour over the last two years. I have had people tell me to simply walk away because she does not, as AbbyNormal say, seem to be able to handle her own emotions, etc.

Everyone has expectations in a relationship, Jeane. I have seen your replies here and it makes me wonder about your status in life here, since so many of your posts are negative and seem to be slanted against guys in relationships. None of your posts seem to actually help anyone from what I have seen, they just seem to exist to enflame other posters' worries and whatnot.

Not trying to control her but she has admitted herself that she lacks the relationship experience, especially when a relationship gets more serious and there is talk about having a house together and a family, sharing financials and so forth.

One could even argue that because her parents have had an unstable marriage, it seems that they are not the best influences on her life. No doubt having a partner with parents who have always been active in their son's lives would be a better influence.

I have been extremely patient because she does not have as much life experience and does seem to get overwhelmed easier than most.

We relaxed and watched a movie together yesterday and it felt more like when we first started dating where we each took care of each other and were laughing a lot. At the end of the night, we were both super happy with our day out. 🙂

Since we have known each other for almost 3 years now and dated for two, we have seen a lot of these 'waves' together and have been there for each other. Yesterday seemed to fix a lot of our superficial issues as of late so here is to things improving from here onwards.

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My, that's a lot of words. You should save them because you'll be back here in a few months telling us all how awful she is again.

Keep that gaslight burning now won't you? 😉

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Posted by AbbyNormal

She sounds overwhelmed and a little under developed when it comes to handling her emotions. I can relate. It is hard to consider the emotions of others when you feel like you are drowning in your own. However, it needs to be made clear that the world does not evolve around her and her emotions. In a gentle way mind you if you want it to work out in the end. Patience is key. Help her make time for your relationship. Time management and meditation were super hard for me growing up, just slowing down in general! Set a time and date when you are both free and low stress (in relation) to talk. She will probably apologize even! If she's keeping contact at all while stressed, that's a big thing actually. I can be really selfish with my time when I'm overwhelmed. Just being a support for her during this stressful time will help, because things will calm down. That's life, peaks and valleys. If you can't ride the waves together, it won't last.

This guy has spent the last two years coming here to complain about this woman and basically imply that there is something wrong with her, her behaviour and she is not conforming to his wishes. He seeks advice here to see how he can get her to be the person he expects her to be or control her.

I would recommend flicking through his history.

There is something off about him

AbbyNormal, thank you for the best reply this thread has seen in ages.

She has had tests done when she was a child by her parents and the doctors could not find anything /noticeable/ wrong with her. Many people who I have consulted, guys and girls, have been stumped by her behaviour over the last two years. I have had people tell me to simply walk away because she does not, as AbbyNormal say, seem to be able to handle her own emotions, etc.

Everyone has expectations in a relationship, Jeane. I have seen your replies here and it makes me wonder about your status in life here, since so many of your posts are negative and seem to be slanted against guys in relationships. None of your posts seem to actually help anyone from what I have seen, they just seem to exist to enflame other posters' worries and whatnot.

Not trying to control her but she has admitted herself that she lacks the relationship experience, especially when a relationship gets more serious and there is talk about having a house together and a family, sharing financials and so forth.

One could even argue that because her parents have had an unstable marriage, it seems that they are not the best influences on her life. No doubt having a partner with parents who have always been active in their son's lives would be a better influence.

I have been extremely patient because she does not have as much life experience and does seem to get overwhelmed easier than most.

We relaxed and watched a movie together yesterday and it felt more like when we first started dating where we each took care of each other and were laughing a lot. At the end of the night, we were both super happy with our day out. 🙂

Since we have known each other for almost 3 years now and dated for two, we have seen a lot of these 'waves' together and have been there for each other. Yesterday seemed to fix a lot of our superficial issues as of late so here is to things improving from here onwards.

My, that's a lot of words. You should save them because you'll be back here in a few months telling us all how awful she is again.

Keep that gaslight burning now won't you? 😉

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I'm vaguely remembering now. It sounds like he understands perfectly, but doesn't want it so doesn't accept it. Just my opinion here.

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Posted by jeane

Posted by AbbyNormal

She sounds overwhelmed and a little under developed when it comes to handling her emotions. I can relate. It is hard to consider the emotions of others when you feel like you are drowning in your own. However, it needs to be made clear that the world does not evolve around her and her emotions. In a gentle way mind you if you want it to work out in the end. Patience is key. Help her make time for your relationship. Time management and meditation were super hard for me growing up, just slowing down in general! Set a time and date when you are both free and low stress (in relation) to talk. She will probably apologize even! If she's keeping contact at all while stressed, that's a big thing actually. I can be really selfish with my time when I'm overwhelmed. Just being a support for her during this stressful time will help, because things will calm down. That's life, peaks and valleys. If you can't ride the waves together, it won't last.

This guy has spent the last two years coming here to complain about this woman and basically imply that there is something wrong with her, her behaviour and she is not conforming to his wishes. He seeks advice here to see how he can get her to be the person he expects her to be or control her.

I would recommend flicking through his history.

There is something off about him

AbbyNormal, thank you for the best reply this thread has seen in ages.

She has had tests done when she was a child by her parents and the doctors could not find anything /noticeable/ wrong with her. Many people who I have consulted, guys and girls, have been stumped by her behaviour over the last two years. I have had people tell me to simply walk away because she does not, as AbbyNormal say, seem to be able to handle her own emotions, etc.

Everyone has expectations in a relationship, Jeane. I have seen your replies here and it makes me wonder about your status in life here, since so many of your posts are negative and seem to be slanted against guys in relationships. None of your posts seem to actually help anyone from what I have seen, they just seem to exist to enflame other posters' worries and whatnot.

Not trying to control her but she has admitted herself that she lacks the relationship experience, especially when a relationship gets more serious and there is talk about having a house together and a family, sharing financials and so forth.

One could even argue that because her parents have had an unstable marriage, it seems that they are not the best influences on her life. No doubt having a partner with parents who have always been active in their son's lives would be a better influence.

I have been extremely patient because she does not have as much life experience and does seem to get overwhelmed easier than most.

We relaxed and watched a movie together yesterday and it felt more like when we first started dating where we each took care of each other and were laughing a lot. At the end of the night, we were both super happy with our day out. 🙂

Since we have known each other for almost 3 years now and dated for two, we have seen a lot of these 'waves' together and have been there for each other. Yesterday seemed to fix a lot of our superficial issues as of late so here is to things improving from here onwards.

My, that's a lot of words. You should save them because you'll be back here in a few months telling us all how awful she is again.

Keep that gaslight burning now won't you? 😉

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I am glad you learned a few PSYC 101 words. Too bad you likely flunked the course and didn't get the degree like I did. 😉

Of course, you knew that men generally don't gaslight and Bipolar I/II is far more prevalent in women, right? Sure you did.

In two months you will still be trolling other people's posts, jealous of their relationships. 😉

I have actually protected myself, gotten all of my stuff back and she has no way of hurting me at all anymore, even if I never spoke to her again. After her strange behaviour of the last month, I made sure she has limited to no access to anything of mine whatsoever. She is too unstable and become too unreliable to communicate properly or to date within a relationship. I have no control over how she is reacting to everything and will continue to achieve my goals in my life in the meantime. 🙂

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Posted by AbbyNormal

She sounds overwhelmed and a little under developed when it comes to handling her emotions. I can relate. It is hard to consider the emotions of others when you feel like you are drowning in your own. However, it needs to be made clear that the world does not evolve around her and her emotions. In a gentle way mind you if you want it to work out in the end. Patience is key. Help her make time for your relationship. Time management and meditation were super hard for me growing up, just slowing down in general! Set a time and date when you are both free and low stress (in relation) to talk. She will probably apologize even! If she's keeping contact at all while stressed, that's a big thing actually. I can be really selfish with my time when I'm overwhelmed. Just being a support for her during this stressful time will help, because things will calm down. That's life, peaks and valleys. If you can't ride the waves together, it won't last.

This guy has spent the last two years coming here to complain about this woman and basically imply that there is something wrong with her, her behaviour and she is not conforming to his wishes. He seeks advice here to see how he can get her to be the person he expects her to be or control her.

I would recommend flicking through his history.

There is something off about him

AbbyNormal, thank you for the best reply this thread has seen in ages.

She has had tests done when she was a child by her parents and the doctors could not find anything /noticeable/ wrong with her. Many people who I have consulted, guys and girls, have been stumped by her behaviour over the last two years. I have had people tell me to simply walk away because she does not, as AbbyNormal say, seem to be able to handle her own emotions, etc.

Everyone has expectations in a relationship, Jeane. I have seen your replies here and it makes me wonder about your status in life here, since so many of your posts are negative and seem to be slanted against guys in relationships. None of your posts seem to actually help anyone from what I have seen, they just seem to exist to enflame other posters' worries and whatnot.

Not trying to control her but she has admitted herself that she lacks the relationship experience, especially when a relationship gets more serious and there is talk about having a house together and a family, sharing financials and so forth.

One could even argue that because her parents have had an unstable marriage, it seems that they are not the best influences on her life. No doubt having a partner with parents who have always been active in their son's lives would be a better influence.

I have been extremely patient because she does not have as much life experience and does seem to get overwhelmed easier than most.

We relaxed and watched a movie together yesterday and it felt more like when we first started dating where we each took care of each other and were laughing a lot. At the end of the night, we were both super happy with our day out. 🙂

Since we have known each other for almost 3 years now and dated for two, we have seen a lot of these 'waves' together and have been there for each other. Yesterday seemed to fix a lot of our superficial issues as of late so here is to things improving from here onwards.

My, that's a lot of words. You should save them because you'll be back here in a few months telling us all how awful she is again.

Keep that gaslight burning now won't you? 😉

I am glad you learned a few PSYC 101 words. Too bad you likely flunked the course and didn't get the degree like I did. 😉

Of course, you knew that men generally don't gaslight and Bipolar I/II is far more prevalent in women, right? Sure you did.

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Quick question; is this the kind of stuff you pull on her? Tell her that you are intellectually superior to her and bring up random irrelevant statements to convince her she is wrong?

I see. Your posts make sense now.

I don't think anyone here is jealous of your relationship.

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Posted by jeane

Quick question; is this the kind of stuff you pull on her? Tell her that you are intellectually superior to her and bring up random irrelevant statements to convince her she is wrong?

He's probably busy researching others' posts so he can use things against them.

I unfortunately got involved with a sociopathic narcissist who used to quote areas of the law every time she felt out of control.

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The irony is in the same breath he denies gaslighting her, he implies that she is bipolar (a diagnosis that only a psychiatrist could give and that he, as a graduate of psychology should know) he is literally gaslighting her.

Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity. Using denial, misdirection, contradiction, and lying, gaslighting involves attempts to destabilize the victim and delegitimize the victim's beliefs.

The guy is a mess.

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Posted by jeane

Quick question; is this the kind of stuff you pull on her? Tell her that you are intellectually superior to her and bring up random irrelevant statements to convince her she is wrong?

He's probably busy researching others' posts so he can use things against them.

I unfortunately got involved with a sociopathic narcissist who used to quote areas of the law every time she felt out of control.

The irony is in the same breath he denies gaslighting her, he implies that she is bipolar (a diagnosis that only a psychiatrist could give and that he, as a graduate of psychology should know) he is literally gaslighting her.Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity. Using denial, misdirection, contradiction, and lying, gaslighting involves attempts to destabilize the victim and delegitimize the victim's beliefs.

The guy is a mess.

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I dated someone who discovered they were Bipolar II and Borderline for years and the symptoms are similar to what she is exhibiting right now. They get worse with time, medication or not. She was a chronic drinker and the slightest bit of stress would set her off and get her drinking.

Yes, I am in the field, so I am quite aware of all of this and as I have written above, many friends and family members are puzzled by her unusual behaviour.

Nice try, better luck next time. 🙂

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Posted by jeane

Quick question; is this the kind of stuff you pull on her? Tell her that you are intellectually superior to her and bring up random irrelevant statements to convince her she is wrong?

He's probably busy researching others' posts so he can use things against them.

I unfortunately got involved with a sociopathic narcissist who used to quote areas of the law every time she felt out of control.

The irony is in the same breath he denies gaslighting her, he implies that she is bipolar (a diagnosis that only a psychiatrist could give and that he, as a graduate of psychology should know) he is literally gaslighting her.Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity. Using denial, misdirection, contradiction, and lying, gaslighting involves attempts to destabilize the victim and delegitimize the victim's beliefs.

The guy is a mess.

I dated someone who discovered they were Bipolar II and Borderline for years and the symptoms are similar to what she is exhibiting right now. They get worse with time, medication or not. She was a chronic drinker and the slightest bit of stress would set her off and get her drinking.

Yes, I am in the field, so I am quite aware of all of this and as I have written above, many friends and family members are puzzled by her unusual behaviour.

Nice try, better luck next time. 🙂

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Youre in the field but instead of going to forums populated with mental health professionals you come to dxp to talk about star signs?

Ok love. The more you speak the more you make me laugh.

typical Pisces male behavior and immature Taurus female behavior

Posted by piscesman707

No romance if no finance.

That is a load of bull. I have dated people because I loved them when they were unemployed and they have dated me when I was out of work and happened to have met them at less-than-ideal times. If you want to selectively date people, great, but you are going to be not only superficial but lonely forever.

Is she mad because she’s broke and you’re not paying her way?

Her family has had bad luck and her dad hasn't been bringing home a lot of money for years now so her mom is trying to brainwash her to marry for money first and love secondly. I have told her that is wrong and it is. I have discussed this with many friends and it put them into a rage.

Hates being busy with work because she misses out?

Hates being stuck in a dead-end job and no friends to hangout with at the end of the work-week, it seems.

Why would you say getting angry works with a Taurus?

I have seen Taurus backing down from an angry Pisces. If a Pisces gets angry, it can be Axl Rose tantrum scary.

Taurus definitely seems to need to be lead, even though they give the impression they don't. They also seem to need boundaries to be established against them or they will keep pushing them.

So she’s already angry, so you get angrier than her angry to shut her up?

They have uncontrollable rages and they really need to leave the room/house and calm down elsewhere. My girl clearly is in need of anger management more than the other Tauruses I've met.

Is this what all your relationship experience has led you to believe?

She’d be plotting her revenge when she’s distant.

This statement seems to be line of personal projection.

Don’t retaliate a fixed sign woman.

Nonsense. You just suggested she would retaliate but oftentimes in her case, her uncontrollable anger is the cause of issues and amplifies them further. If a any sign cannot control themselves, they will be single and very lonely. Of course, from what I have read, it seems that happens a lot to this sign due to their perfectionism like Virgo. If they cannot control their anger, they will end up in jail with others who cannot communicate properly. (Another issue with this sign, from what I have witnessed.)

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I agreed a lot with what you said but as a woman marrying solely for love isn’t wise. For

yourself as a woman nor your future children. Marriage I’m general was solely a business arrangement for a long time, marrying for love is a relatively new phenomenon, don’t be so offended. We’ve seen how women marrying

For love almost never works.

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Posted by AbbyNormal

She sounds overwhelmed and a little under developed when it comes to handling her emotions. I can relate. It is hard to consider the emotions of others when you feel like you are drowning in your own. However, it needs to be made clear that the world does not evolve around her and her emotions. In a gentle way mind you if you want it to work out in the end. Patience is key. Help her make time for your relationship. Time management and meditation were super hard for me growing up, just slowing down in general! Set a time and date when you are both free and low stress (in relation) to talk. She will probably apologize even! If she's keeping contact at all while stressed, that's a big thing actually. I can be really selfish with my time when I'm overwhelmed. Just being a support for her during this stressful time will help, because things will calm down. That's life, peaks and valleys. If you can't ride the waves together, it won't last.

This guy has spent the last two years coming here to complain about this woman and basically imply that there is something wrong with her, her behaviour and she is not conforming to his wishes. He seeks advice here to see how he can get her to be the person he expects her to be or control her.

I would recommend flicking through his history.

There is something off about him

AbbyNormal, thank you for the best reply this thread has seen in ages.

She has had tests done when she was a child by her parents and the doctors could not find anything /noticeable/ wrong with her. Many people who I have consulted, guys and girls, have been stumped by her behaviour over the last two years. I have had people tell me to simply walk away because she does not, as AbbyNormal say, seem to be able to handle her own emotions, etc.

Everyone has expectations in a relationship, Jeane. I have seen your replies here and it makes me wonder about your status in life here, since so many of your posts are negative and seem to be slanted against guys in relationships. None of your posts seem to actually help anyone from what I have seen, they just seem to exist to enflame other posters' worries and whatnot.

Not trying to control her but she has admitted herself that she lacks the relationship experience, especially when a relationship gets more serious and there is talk about having a house together and a family, sharing financials and so forth.

One could even argue that because her parents have had an unstable marriage, it seems that they are not the best influences on her life. No doubt having a partner with parents who have always been active in their son's lives would be a better influence.

I have been extremely patient because she does not have as much life experience and does seem to get overwhelmed easier than most.

We relaxed and watched a movie together yesterday and it felt more like when we first started dating where we each took care of each other and were laughing a lot. At the end of the night, we were both super happy with our day out. 🙂

Since we have known each other for almost 3 years now and dated for two, we have seen a lot of these 'waves' together and have been there for each other. Yesterday seemed to fix a lot of our superficial issues as of late so here is to things improving from here onwards.

My, that's a lot of words. You should save them because you'll be back here in a few months telling us all how awful she is again.

Keep that gaslight burning now won't you? 😉

I am glad you learned a few PSYC 101 words. Too bad you likely flunked the course and didn't get the degree like I did. 😉

Of course, you knew that men generally don't gaslight and Bipolar I/II is far more prevalent in women, right? Sure you did.

In two months you will still be trolling other people's posts, jealous of their relationships. 😉

I have actually protected myself, gotten all of my stuff back and she has no way of hurting me at all anymore, even if I never spoke to her again. After her strange behaviour of the last month, I made sure she has limited to no access to anything of mine whatsoever. She is too unstable and become too unreliable to communicate properly or to date within a relationship. I have no control over how she is reacting to everything and will continue to achieve my goals in my life in the meantime. 🙂

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I really respect this. You have to protect yourself. That’s how people learn how to treat you. Don’t give in or fold. No one should be subjected to emotional abuse.

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Posted by jeane

Quick question; is this the kind of stuff you pull on her? Tell her that you are intellectually superior to her and bring up random irrelevant statements to convince her she is wrong?

He's probably busy researching others' posts so he can use things against them.

I unfortunately got involved with a sociopathic narcissist who used to quote areas of the law every time she felt out of control.

The irony is in the same breath he denies gaslighting her, he implies that she is bipolar (a diagnosis that only a psychiatrist could give and that he, as a graduate of psychology should know) he is literally gaslighting her.Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity. Using denial, misdirection, contradiction, and lying, gaslighting involves attempts to destabilize the victim and delegitimize the victim's beliefs.

The guy is a mess.

I dated someone who discovered they were Bipolar II and Borderline for years and the symptoms are similar to what she is exhibiting right now. They get worse with time, medication or not. She was a chronic drinker and the slightest bit of stress would set her off and get her drinking.

Yes, I am in the field, so I am quite aware of all of this and as I have written above, many friends and family members are puzzled by her unusual behaviour.

Nice try, better luck next time. 🙂

So maybe you bring these traits out and they dissipate when you run off.

I mean you’re the common denominator.

The percentage, for the personality disorder and the mood disorder, are very low for the population.

The chance you caught two girls with both diagnosis is questionable.

If you are in the field you would also know that a diagnosis takes years, and your ability to diagnose properly and accurately takes years of experience.

Could be that you don’t respect, and these women find you narcissistic.

Please stop spreading mistruths in order for you to maintain a sense of control over someone.

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Most people suffer from some sort of mental illness, often undiagnosed. So I wouldn’t say he’s the common denominator.

My ex was diagnosed by a group of 4 doctors was Bipolar II, she waved the document around like it was a matter of pride and then put it down infront of me on the table for 5 seconds, so I only vaguely remember it also mentioned acute anxiety and something else.

Less, it is /considered/ a low % of the popular but you need to remember that may people go undiagnosed... It could be closer to 20% or 25% as many never get on medication or diagnosed in their lifetime.