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12 House Planets
12th House MOON
The planets that are found within the 12th house have their origins in the mother, given to us whilst we were in the womb and built up while we were children. Having the Moon here indicates that with your mother you have a complicated relationship that has led to some deeply-rooted psychological complexes. Even after you were born you have continued to share an emotional, psychic connection (one that persists long after she’s departed from this world). That is because your Moon, symbolizing your emotions and all her maternal energy, is concealed within the depths of your subconscious mind, where it was planted long before you were born. Although hidden away from your consciousness you still possess an extraordinary and overwhelming sensitivity to your surroundings, especially to the pain and suffering of others. A natural response is to retreat into introversion, away from all people, where your heart can be kept safe. You may give the impression of being detached, shy, and self-contained. People may find you mysterious, calm, or difficult to read. But what they do not see is how open and vulnerable your feelings really are, and how thin the line between your emotions and those of others’ really is.
All the subjects and themes contained within the 12th House are likewise difficult to pin down and dissect, mostly because they are things which are not objectively real but still fully experienced by you. These are things like spirituality, secular beliefs, dreams, the imagination, and your unseen connection to the universe and all of humanity. You frequently have vivid dreams and a colourful imagination ripe with symbolism, mythos, and fantasy. You find yourself drawn into stories and may even uncover fruitful talents as a writer. Having your Moon in the 12th bestows a powerful emotional association to all of these matters, which fluctuates in rhythm like the Moon itself. You retreat into your mind or into your secular spirituality whenever you need a safe place to go into, particularly if your strong compassion and empathy has become too overpowering. You may also try to numb yourself with drugs and alcohol. Other times, just as the Moon waxes full, you will go into the outside world and become “mother” to other people. You go out of your way to be saviour, even though you also try to keep this area of your life a secret.
The planets that are found within the 12th house have their origins in the mother, given to us whilst we were in the womb and built up while we were children. Having the Moon here indicates that with your mother you have a complicated relationship that has led to some deeply-rooted psychological complexes. Even after you were born you have continued to share an emotional, psychic connection (one that persists long after she’s departed from this world). That is because your Moon, symbolizing your emotions and all her maternal energy, is concealed within the depths of your subconscious mind, where it was planted long before you were born. Although hidden away from your consciousness you still possess an extraordinary and overwhelming sensitivity to your surroundings, especially to the pain and suffering of others. A natural response is to retreat into introversion, away from all people, where your heart can be kept safe. You may give the impression of being detached, shy, and self-contained. People may find you mysterious, calm, or difficult to read. But what they do not see is how open and vulnerable your feelings really are, and how thin the line between your emotions and those of others’ really is.
All the subjects and themes contained within the 12th House are likewise difficult to pin down and dissect, mostly because they are things which are not objectively real but still fully experienced by you. These are things like spirituality, secular beliefs, dreams, the imagination, and your unseen connection to the universe and all of humanity. You frequently have vivid dreams and a colourful imagination ripe with symbolism, mythos, and fantasy. You find yourself drawn into stories and may even uncover fruitful talents as a writer. Having your Moon in the 12th bestows a powerful emotional association to all of these matters, which fluctuates in rhythm like the Moon itself. You retreat into your mind or into your secular spirituality whenever you need a safe place to go into, particularly if your strong compassion and empathy has become too overpowering. You may also try to numb yourself with drugs and alcohol. Other times, just as the Moon waxes full, you will go into the outside world and become “mother” to other people. You go out of your way to be saviour, even though you also try to keep this area of your life a secret.
12th House SUN
Having the Sun placed in the 12th House is usually found in the chart of those whose mothers and fathers often fought with each other, ultimately resulting in some kind of disconnection from the father-figure. You grew up often feeling shorted on his support and encouragement, and your Sun was left ignored. As a result you suffer from a lack of healthy self-interest, self-love, aggression, competitiveness, and stunted creativity. Early life was difficult because you were constantly a victim of those around you. Bullying, exploitation, abusive relationships, and being smothered and controlled by your mother drove you to adopt a tougher, cooler, more emotionally distant veneer. But despite the facade you wore, deep down you remained depressed, introverted, shy, and misunderstood.
As mentioned before, the planets that are put in this house want to melt into collective unity with all things. That is why powers of compassion, empathy, and intuition are so prevalent in those with 12th house personalities, and why many act as a medium between the personal and collective worlds. The ego may not want to dissolve and become a part of everything around them (especially as it is so sensitive to negativity), which usually results in a complete denial of all things in this area of life. And yet the unseen parts of the world are so curiously fascinated, and somehow so fulfilling, that you will continued find yourself pulled back in by those around you. There is the chance, especially given your frequent pain and the crowds you run with, that you turn to methods of escapism like drug use or alcohol. Or perhaps spirituality, secular beliefs, occult, or religion may be what captures you. Other times it may be the imagination, creativity, writing and artistry that fulfill your desire to daydream and get lost in another universe. You are so shy and so secretive that no one may ever know which you indulge in the most.
Having the Sun placed in the 12th House is usually found in the chart of those whose mothers and fathers often fought with each other, ultimately resulting in some kind of disconnection from the father-figure. You grew up often feeling shorted on his support and encouragement, and your Sun was left ignored. As a result you suffer from a lack of healthy self-interest, self-love, aggression, competitiveness, and stunted creativity. Early life was difficult because you were constantly a victim of those around you. Bullying, exploitation, abusive relationships, and being smothered and controlled by your mother drove you to adopt a tougher, cooler, more emotionally distant veneer. But despite the facade you wore, deep down you remained depressed, introverted, shy, and misunderstood.
As mentioned before, the planets that are put in this house want to melt into collective unity with all things. That is why powers of compassion, empathy, and intuition are so prevalent in those with 12th house personalities, and why many act as a medium between the personal and collective worlds. The ego may not want to dissolve and become a part of everything around them (especially as it is so sensitive to negativity), which usually results in a complete denial of all things in this area of life. And yet the unseen parts of the world are so curiously fascinated, and somehow so fulfilling, that you will continued find yourself pulled back in by those around you. There is the chance, especially given your frequent pain and the crowds you run with, that you turn to methods of escapism like drug use or alcohol. Or perhaps spirituality, secular beliefs, occult, or religion may be what captures you. Other times it may be the imagination, creativity, writing and artistry that fulfill your desire to daydream and get lost in another universe. You are so shy and so secretive that no one may ever know which you indulge in the most.
12th House PLUTO
While your mother was pregnant she was enduring some kind of emotional turmoil or even trauma, the memory of which was transmitted to you, where Pluto still lives in your subconscious emotional mind. To put it lightly, you were born during a major transformative shift in your mother’s life that persisted through your childhood. You are very likely to have seen your parents’ divorce and/or have been separated from one or both parents at an early age. Many either don’t know their father or see their mothers abused in some way. There is a strong link to the dark feminine aspects of our society within your psyche, and true to that you are likely to have undergone your own share of traumatic experiences; sexual abuse, mental illness (including depression, drug addiction, or alcoholism), unspeakable secrets, painful deaths, being uprooted from your familiar family life, and living under all-powerful, oppressive, manipulative, exploitive, and controlling authorities. What emerged from these difficult times is an abandoning of Pluto into the inner recess of the mind, where she cannot be seen or heard from again. This automatic rejection of this side of your personality, and all the complexes and neurosis associated with the trauma you and your mother endured, snowballs into something bigger later on in life.
But the 12th House is not just that of your personal subconscious. It is your connection to the collective and to all things not objectively real but experienced by you: spirituality, secular beliefs, dreams, and the imagination, to name a few. It is here one finds symbolism and fantasy, the mythical and the universal. Just as you and your mother’s bodies were joined when she was pregnant, all people are connected together on a spiritual level, and planets in the 12th House represent how you connect to the greater whole. As you have Pluto here, you compete with the world for power and control, at any cost necessary, and you frequently become symbolic of that which is “taboo” and forbidden to talk about. Pluto is very sensitive when placed here – rattling her cage with sexual impulses and destructive urges – and you fear that anything might trigger a sudden onslaught of intense emotions you cannot control. A natural reaction is to withdraw entirely into privacy to protect yourself, being aware as you are to the looming threats that await you in the outside world. Initially denying your Pluto even exists, you prefer to keep your secrets secret and your threatening strength under a heavy veil. But you cannot hide your Pluto forever.
While your mother was pregnant she was enduring some kind of emotional turmoil or even trauma, the memory of which was transmitted to you, where Pluto still lives in your subconscious emotional mind. To put it lightly, you were born during a major transformative shift in your mother’s life that persisted through your childhood. You are very likely to have seen your parents’ divorce and/or have been separated from one or both parents at an early age. Many either don’t know their father or see their mothers abused in some way. There is a strong link to the dark feminine aspects of our society within your psyche, and true to that you are likely to have undergone your own share of traumatic experiences; sexual abuse, mental illness (including depression, drug addiction, or alcoholism), unspeakable secrets, painful deaths, being uprooted from your familiar family life, and living under all-powerful, oppressive, manipulative, exploitive, and controlling authorities. What emerged from these difficult times is an abandoning of Pluto into the inner recess of the mind, where she cannot be seen or heard from again. This automatic rejection of this side of your personality, and all the complexes and neurosis associated with the trauma you and your mother endured, snowballs into something bigger later on in life.
But the 12th House is not just that of your personal subconscious. It is your connection to the collective and to all things not objectively real but experienced by you: spirituality, secular beliefs, dreams, and the imagination, to name a few. It is here one finds symbolism and fantasy, the mythical and the universal. Just as you and your mother’s bodies were joined when she was pregnant, all people are connected together on a spiritual level, and planets in the 12th House represent how you connect to the greater whole. As you have Pluto here, you compete with the world for power and control, at any cost necessary, and you frequently become symbolic of that which is “taboo” and forbidden to talk about. Pluto is very sensitive when placed here – rattling her cage with sexual impulses and destructive urges – and you fear that anything might trigger a sudden onslaught of intense emotions you cannot control. A natural reaction is to withdraw entirely into privacy to protect yourself, being aware as you are to the looming threats that await you in the outside world. Initially denying your Pluto even exists, you prefer to keep your secrets secret and your threatening strength under a heavy veil. But you cannot hide your Pluto forever.
12th House NEPTUNE
This is a blessed placement for Neptune to be in. The waters of your soul run deep and still. To you she gives extraordinarily sensitive emotions and an intense and vivid imagination. Compassionate and utterly receptive, you cannot help but feel like your heart is always exposed. You spend your whole life open and vulnerable, as though you can physically feel other people’s energy radiating off of them. Gifted (or cursed) with boundless empathy, any time you spend in the company of other people can be overwhelming for your gentle nature. In response you seclude yourself, perhaps hiding behind a closed door or by yourself in your bedroom. In quiet isolation you can re-center yourself, calming the waters inside of you that accumulated everyone else’s positive and negative emotions. It is in these hours alone that your superb artistry can be expressed, your vivid imagination ignited. Softly painting, reading, writing, or crafting by yourself, you can get in touch with your creative spirit without being interrupted by the wolves outside.
Neptune can show where you set up such high expectations for beauty and happiness that nothing in this earthly realm could possibly live up to them. In the 12th House, your idea of heaven is heaven itself – a paradise that exists not in this world, but in the next. Nothing in this world of suffering and sadness could compare to what you have in mind. But do not let delusions of heaven serve as your cushion from the harsh realities of this world. Balance must be found between enough belief to feed your soul and enough practicality to survive. You should not deny this spiritual side of yourself that believes and has faith in things unseen. Even if you experience a loss of faith in your primary religion, you should search for a system of beliefs and values as a substitute. You may say you are gifted with psychic powers, or you may claim to have personal spiritual experiences that cannot be proved but are as real to you as anything else. Despite isolating yourself and hiding from the rest of the world, you have a great need inside of you to transcend this earthly plain and be united with God(s), Mother Nature, the universe, your culture, and with other people. You should seek to surround yourself with like minded and loving supporters.
This is a blessed placement for Neptune to be in. The waters of your soul run deep and still. To you she gives extraordinarily sensitive emotions and an intense and vivid imagination. Compassionate and utterly receptive, you cannot help but feel like your heart is always exposed. You spend your whole life open and vulnerable, as though you can physically feel other people’s energy radiating off of them. Gifted (or cursed) with boundless empathy, any time you spend in the company of other people can be overwhelming for your gentle nature. In response you seclude yourself, perhaps hiding behind a closed door or by yourself in your bedroom. In quiet isolation you can re-center yourself, calming the waters inside of you that accumulated everyone else’s positive and negative emotions. It is in these hours alone that your superb artistry can be expressed, your vivid imagination ignited. Softly painting, reading, writing, or crafting by yourself, you can get in touch with your creative spirit without being interrupted by the wolves outside.
Neptune can show where you set up such high expectations for beauty and happiness that nothing in this earthly realm could possibly live up to them. In the 12th House, your idea of heaven is heaven itself – a paradise that exists not in this world, but in the next. Nothing in this world of suffering and sadness could compare to what you have in mind. But do not let delusions of heaven serve as your cushion from the harsh realities of this world. Balance must be found between enough belief to feed your soul and enough practicality to survive. You should not deny this spiritual side of yourself that believes and has faith in things unseen. Even if you experience a loss of faith in your primary religion, you should search for a system of beliefs and values as a substitute. You may say you are gifted with psychic powers, or you may claim to have personal spiritual experiences that cannot be proved but are as real to you as anything else. Despite isolating yourself and hiding from the rest of the world, you have a great need inside of you to transcend this earthly plain and be united with God(s), Mother Nature, the universe, your culture, and with other people. You should seek to surround yourself with like minded and loving supporters.
12th House URANUS
It is likely that either something spontaneous or unusual happened to your mother while she was carrying you, or else the pregnancy itself was different somehow. You were thereafter born into a family where you do not quite fit in, and you grew up feeling as though they (and others) have tried to turn you into what they believe you should be. Perhaps they were wary of how you would affect their public image, too revolutionary for their old-fashioned values, or simply too weird for them to understand. This rejection made you uncomfortable with the parts of yourself that were different. It also spawned the seed of your distrust of authority, rebellion against the rules, and a refusal to submit. As far back as you can remember you have been an outcast, an outsider, strange and misunderstood. And for just as long you have hidden this part of yourself, banishing it to live in the waters of your subconscious mind.
You have gone to great lengths to sheath your creative genius and wear a plainer disguise. Even going so far as to adopt different “personas” for different people and situations, you switch from one personality to the next depending on if you are with friends, family, coworkers, authority figures, and so on. In attempting to blend in and be “just like everyone else”, you abandon everything that makes you unique to some dark place somewhere, where nobody can know how strange you really are. But Uranus, being the planet of spontaneity and revolution, placed in the house of the Subconscious, can suddenly turn up in some surprising places. You may go through bouts of insomnia or lucid dreams. Strange experiences on drugs or alcohol may occur in your lifetime. When tuning into your imagination you find flashes of creative ideas, the origins of which you cannot fully explain. Your approach to the spiritual and emotional sides of life is original and inventive as well; it is said that parapsychology, spiritualism, and metaphysics in particular (all of which seek to blend contemporary science with strange and revolutionary ideas) excite those with this placement.
It is likely that either something spontaneous or unusual happened to your mother while she was carrying you, or else the pregnancy itself was different somehow. You were thereafter born into a family where you do not quite fit in, and you grew up feeling as though they (and others) have tried to turn you into what they believe you should be. Perhaps they were wary of how you would affect their public image, too revolutionary for their old-fashioned values, or simply too weird for them to understand. This rejection made you uncomfortable with the parts of yourself that were different. It also spawned the seed of your distrust of authority, rebellion against the rules, and a refusal to submit. As far back as you can remember you have been an outcast, an outsider, strange and misunderstood. And for just as long you have hidden this part of yourself, banishing it to live in the waters of your subconscious mind.
You have gone to great lengths to sheath your creative genius and wear a plainer disguise. Even going so far as to adopt different “personas” for different people and situations, you switch from one personality to the next depending on if you are with friends, family, coworkers, authority figures, and so on. In attempting to blend in and be “just like everyone else”, you abandon everything that makes you unique to some dark place somewhere, where nobody can know how strange you really are. But Uranus, being the planet of spontaneity and revolution, placed in the house of the Subconscious, can suddenly turn up in some surprising places. You may go through bouts of insomnia or lucid dreams. Strange experiences on drugs or alcohol may occur in your lifetime. When tuning into your imagination you find flashes of creative ideas, the origins of which you cannot fully explain. Your approach to the spiritual and emotional sides of life is original and inventive as well; it is said that parapsychology, spiritualism, and metaphysics in particular (all of which seek to blend contemporary science with strange and revolutionary ideas) excite those with this placement.
12th House CHIRON
Chiron placed in the 12th House indicates that shortly before, during, or after your birth, your mother underwent a traumatic experience. It was likely either the loss of someone close to her, or she may have suffered in an abusive relationship, or something very similar. In any case, you inherited a great deal of her pain and sadness whilst suspended in the womb, and you saw her emotional turmoil during your coming early childhood years. While still young (likely before adolescence) you also experienced your share of painful emotional incidents. At the hands of a parent, family member, or close friend you were made to feel abandoned, rejected, insecure, or saddened, and in the worst case scenario were hurt and abused by others. You internalized your pain and anger, blaming yourself and falling into despair. And eventually, as evidenced by Chiron’s placement, you buried your wounds deep into your subconscious mind. Repressing and denying your unsavory emotions, ignoring your injuries, and pushing down that which you did not want to remember, you effectively hide all that had to do with this piece of your personality. But, as you as found, these unresolved emotional issues do not just go away just because you choose not to look at them.
All planets which lie in the 12th House live in the subconscious mind, as for whatever reason we choose we cannot feel them fully and so abandon them to be drowned in the dark waters of our emotional brain. But they can still be seen in that with grows out of these waters; our spirituality, secular beliefs, imagination, and even our dreams, all carry parts of that planet with them into the outer world. As you have Chiron placed here, these things will all carry evidence of your pain and insecurity with them to the outside world. You frequently have nightmares. You are insecure in your artistic ability and feel your work has to be kept secret; your imagination, you complain, does not come up with anything good. You have difficulties with organized religion and are much more comfortable with individual spirituality or secular practices (if you choose to adopt any). Your relationships with divinity, fate, the collective, your mother, and God, are all damaged because you are hurt and made to feel unimportant, abandoned, and betrayed. To numb this pain you turn to alcohol or drug use. Otherwise, you will withdraw into privacy and suffer in silence.
Chiron placed in the 12th House indicates that shortly before, during, or after your birth, your mother underwent a traumatic experience. It was likely either the loss of someone close to her, or she may have suffered in an abusive relationship, or something very similar. In any case, you inherited a great deal of her pain and sadness whilst suspended in the womb, and you saw her emotional turmoil during your coming early childhood years. While still young (likely before adolescence) you also experienced your share of painful emotional incidents. At the hands of a parent, family member, or close friend you were made to feel abandoned, rejected, insecure, or saddened, and in the worst case scenario were hurt and abused by others. You internalized your pain and anger, blaming yourself and falling into despair. And eventually, as evidenced by Chiron’s placement, you buried your wounds deep into your subconscious mind. Repressing and denying your unsavory emotions, ignoring your injuries, and pushing down that which you did not want to remember, you effectively hide all that had to do with this piece of your personality. But, as you as found, these unresolved emotional issues do not just go away just because you choose not to look at them.
All planets which lie in the 12th House live in the subconscious mind, as for whatever reason we choose we cannot feel them fully and so abandon them to be drowned in the dark waters of our emotional brain. But they can still be seen in that with grows out of these waters; our spirituality, secular beliefs, imagination, and even our dreams, all carry parts of that planet with them into the outer world. As you have Chiron placed here, these things will all carry evidence of your pain and insecurity with them to the outside world. You frequently have nightmares. You are insecure in your artistic ability and feel your work has to be kept secret; your imagination, you complain, does not come up with anything good. You have difficulties with organized religion and are much more comfortable with individual spirituality or secular practices (if you choose to adopt any). Your relationships with divinity, fate, the collective, your mother, and God, are all damaged because you are hurt and made to feel unimportant, abandoned, and betrayed. To numb this pain you turn to alcohol or drug use. Otherwise, you will withdraw into privacy and suffer in silence.
12th House SATURN
In the months leading up to your birth your mother was stressed over money her relationship with your father. During your childhood you saw her further taking on a defeatist attitude towards everything life threw at her. Your father may have been absent or otherwise unable to provide a sense of security for the family. Looking into the past you are still haunted by these painful experiences, the memories of which you continue to secretly dwell on. Unable or unwilling to confront these negative emotions, afraid of being engulfed by them, you banish them to the inner recesses of your subconscious mind. But repressed memories never go away; pushing them down, they hide in the darkness and continue to influence you in subtle ways you are not aware of. By denying “weak” emotions and not submitting to authority you give yourself a feeling of control. You seek out structure and permanence but suffer from bouts of doubt, insecurity, depression, and have nervous breakdowns, and have a multitude of trust issues still buried underneath a calm exterior.
When one looks at your dreams, imagination, and spirituality – all things of the 12th House domain – they see how those things are influenced by Saturn lurking underneath. As long as you repress your emotions other areas of your subconscious mind will be repressed as well. It is your inner craving for security and structure that compels you to initially reject and deny all things spiritual and imaginative, just as you reject and deny your own repressed emotions. You may seek out drugs and alcohol to help manage the depression that stems from painful experiences. Yet even though this may work at times it is an unhealthy and unproductive way of managing your feelings. Like flowers sprouting out of the soil, your belief structures and creative ideas carry a certain Saturn quality into the outside world. For a period of your life you will struggle to dedicate yourself to faith and will be more secure in the world of science. Many with this placement are capable of becoming doctors, politicians, and scientists for this reason. Something about objective scientific proof that something is real comforts you. You will also be imaginatively and artistically stunted, focusing more on technical and practical skills instead. When you do consider divinity, unresolved feelings from your parents are projected onto fate: anger, cynicism, hopelessness, and a feeling rejected, overlooked, and not cared about.
In the months leading up to your birth your mother was stressed over money her relationship with your father. During your childhood you saw her further taking on a defeatist attitude towards everything life threw at her. Your father may have been absent or otherwise unable to provide a sense of security for the family. Looking into the past you are still haunted by these painful experiences, the memories of which you continue to secretly dwell on. Unable or unwilling to confront these negative emotions, afraid of being engulfed by them, you banish them to the inner recesses of your subconscious mind. But repressed memories never go away; pushing them down, they hide in the darkness and continue to influence you in subtle ways you are not aware of. By denying “weak” emotions and not submitting to authority you give yourself a feeling of control. You seek out structure and permanence but suffer from bouts of doubt, insecurity, depression, and have nervous breakdowns, and have a multitude of trust issues still buried underneath a calm exterior.
When one looks at your dreams, imagination, and spirituality – all things of the 12th House domain – they see how those things are influenced by Saturn lurking underneath. As long as you repress your emotions other areas of your subconscious mind will be repressed as well. It is your inner craving for security and structure that compels you to initially reject and deny all things spiritual and imaginative, just as you reject and deny your own repressed emotions. You may seek out drugs and alcohol to help manage the depression that stems from painful experiences. Yet even though this may work at times it is an unhealthy and unproductive way of managing your feelings. Like flowers sprouting out of the soil, your belief structures and creative ideas carry a certain Saturn quality into the outside world. For a period of your life you will struggle to dedicate yourself to faith and will be more secure in the world of science. Many with this placement are capable of becoming doctors, politicians, and scientists for this reason. Something about objective scientific proof that something is real comforts you. You will also be imaginatively and artistically stunted, focusing more on technical and practical skills instead. When you do consider divinity, unresolved feelings from your parents are projected onto fate: anger, cynicism, hopelessness, and a feeling rejected, overlooked, and not cared about.
12th House JUPITER
Jupiter is truly powerful within this house. Jupiter’s house placement shows where we seek profound truth and where we find it, and in your case it is in the subconscious. Withdrawing into the deeper recesses of the mind you emerge wiser to the workings of those intangible parts of life found here. You find humanity’s truths lie in the imagination, spirituality, dreams, symbolism, the occult, and both the personal and collective subconscious. Study these subjects and you find them to be infallible. How could anyone ever doubt their astrology readings, or what their therapist says, or the symbolism of their nightmares, when these never fail to be true? You may ask yourself how anybody could not believe in the things you see are so plainly accurate all of the time. It is because you find truth through faith and are not opposed to using your intuition to guide what is right and wrong, true and false, real and imaginary. But be warned – this house is full of tricks and illusions, and you must be careful what you put your faith into. The roads of this house are just as likely to end in drugs, alcohol, false idols, oppressive religion, martyrdom, and you sacrificing your happiness for others. This placement can very well lead to your undoing if you are not careful.
You may not believe that your personality holds many of Jupiter’s characteristic qualities. This planet may be a at home, but that is not to say that it is any more easily expressed than other planets that find their way here. Even normally lucky, expansive Jupiter finds itself shackled and wrought with distress. This is the house astrologers associate with prisons and asylums because this is the house where you must spend long periods alone working on your inner self. Jupiter here signals that you withdraw into your mind and prefer to expand inwardly; to work on yourself and to ruminate on enlightenment. You learn the most in these periods of isolation, where your solitude (and even loneliness) gives you introspective insight into yourself. You are surprisingly open and willing to learn from life and the world around you, expanding your inner horizons through culture, psychology, philosophy, politics, spirituality, history, and different schools of thought. Afraid of going out into the world and exploring it directly through travel and experience, you resolve instead to learn and study people from behind a closed door.
Jupiter is truly powerful within this house. Jupiter’s house placement shows where we seek profound truth and where we find it, and in your case it is in the subconscious. Withdrawing into the deeper recesses of the mind you emerge wiser to the workings of those intangible parts of life found here. You find humanity’s truths lie in the imagination, spirituality, dreams, symbolism, the occult, and both the personal and collective subconscious. Study these subjects and you find them to be infallible. How could anyone ever doubt their astrology readings, or what their therapist says, or the symbolism of their nightmares, when these never fail to be true? You may ask yourself how anybody could not believe in the things you see are so plainly accurate all of the time. It is because you find truth through faith and are not opposed to using your intuition to guide what is right and wrong, true and false, real and imaginary. But be warned – this house is full of tricks and illusions, and you must be careful what you put your faith into. The roads of this house are just as likely to end in drugs, alcohol, false idols, oppressive religion, martyrdom, and you sacrificing your happiness for others. This placement can very well lead to your undoing if you are not careful.
You may not believe that your personality holds many of Jupiter’s characteristic qualities. This planet may be a at home, but that is not to say that it is any more easily expressed than other planets that find their way here. Even normally lucky, expansive Jupiter finds itself shackled and wrought with distress. This is the house astrologers associate with prisons and asylums because this is the house where you must spend long periods alone working on your inner self. Jupiter here signals that you withdraw into your mind and prefer to expand inwardly; to work on yourself and to ruminate on enlightenment. You learn the most in these periods of isolation, where your solitude (and even loneliness) gives you introspective insight into yourself. You are surprisingly open and willing to learn from life and the world around you, expanding your inner horizons through culture, psychology, philosophy, politics, spirituality, history, and different schools of thought. Afraid of going out into the world and exploring it directly through travel and experience, you resolve instead to learn and study people from behind a closed door.
12th House CERES
Ceres is confused within this placement. Planets in the 12th House are said to be impressions we inherited from our mother in the womb which stuck with us past our birth into this real world. Though an individual person with an individual body, we still have this part of our self that remembers being connected to our mother, sharing a body, being kept warm and fed and safe from harm. Although we are not aware of planets here, as they seem to blend and merge with those spaces outside of our practical real-world reality, they are still very alive inside of our imagination, our spirituality, and our primordial emotional selves. When your mother was pregnant with you she already had a deep, connected love for you. She resembled the great earth mother that our ancestors worshipped – full bodied and fertile, devoted and selfless, loving and emotional in every way. But the 12th House is far more complex than her devoted love would allow. It is not at all uncommon for those with this placement to be the youngest child born a few short years before their parent’s separation. But despite being confused by their strange relationship with one another, you remained close to both of them, absorbing maternal and paternal love throughout your young life.
Some say that we all hold a secret, primal desire to return to the warmth and comfort of the womb. For you this is entirely true. Womb-like places and relationships appeal to you. You wish to be alone in the dark, quiet spaces, and yet you also wish to be spiritually and physically intertwined with another person. You are at once intensely private and intensely connected on an emotional level. This yearning to be the eternal child always taken care of by a parent is one source of your eventual undoing, especially when you reach adulthood and begin forming romantic relationships with people. You do not look for that equal, adult, mature kind of love from your partner. Instead you look for the kind of love a parent gives their child, where you are coddled, taken care of, catered to, and loved selflessly no matter what you do. This style of love is basically non-reciprocal, and you are supported by another without needing to support them back. While healthy parent-child relationships do begin like this, this dynamic is not appropriate for romantic or sexual relationships. You cannot take and take and take and only give back your immature brand of love.
Ceres is confused within this placement. Planets in the 12th House are said to be impressions we inherited from our mother in the womb which stuck with us past our birth into this real world. Though an individual person with an individual body, we still have this part of our self that remembers being connected to our mother, sharing a body, being kept warm and fed and safe from harm. Although we are not aware of planets here, as they seem to blend and merge with those spaces outside of our practical real-world reality, they are still very alive inside of our imagination, our spirituality, and our primordial emotional selves. When your mother was pregnant with you she already had a deep, connected love for you. She resembled the great earth mother that our ancestors worshipped – full bodied and fertile, devoted and selfless, loving and emotional in every way. But the 12th House is far more complex than her devoted love would allow. It is not at all uncommon for those with this placement to be the youngest child born a few short years before their parent’s separation. But despite being confused by their strange relationship with one another, you remained close to both of them, absorbing maternal and paternal love throughout your young life.
Some say that we all hold a secret, primal desire to return to the warmth and comfort of the womb. For you this is entirely true. Womb-like places and relationships appeal to you. You wish to be alone in the dark, quiet spaces, and yet you also wish to be spiritually and physically intertwined with another person. You are at once intensely private and intensely connected on an emotional level. This yearning to be the eternal child always taken care of by a parent is one source of your eventual undoing, especially when you reach adulthood and begin forming romantic relationships with people. You do not look for that equal, adult, mature kind of love from your partner. Instead you look for the kind of love a parent gives their child, where you are coddled, taken care of, catered to, and loved selflessly no matter what you do. This style of love is basically non-reciprocal, and you are supported by another without needing to support them back. While healthy parent-child relationships do begin like this, this dynamic is not appropriate for romantic or sexual relationships. You cannot take and take and take and only give back your immature brand of love.
12 House Mars
Energetic, fiery Mars is our inner warrior. He is the greatest source of power and strength we possess; our raw masculinity that strives to conquer, to aggressively go after what we want and achieve everything we ever wanted. He is connected to our sex drive and our potential for violent action, as well as our ambition and drive for success. Submerged in the deep waters of your subconscious mind he is left to dwell in a place where you do not see him. It might not even seem as though you have a Mars. You deny your competitiveness, aggression, anger, selfishness, and all your sexual desires, ignoring them and pretending they do not exist. It may feel safer not to let him out or let anybody know he is there. But repressing this side of yourself inside of your emotional mind does have some serious consequences for your mental and emotional health. You may passively let others control, manipulate, and walk all over your life. Then you have explosive, violent outbursts or manic episodes that appear at inappropriate times or over insignificant things. Other times you feel just sort of vaguely dissatisfied with what you do, never feeling as though you are getting what you want. Sulking, whining, submissiveness, lack of enthusiasm – all are symptoms of a weakened 12th House Mars energy.
Another part of Mars in the 12th House is escapism into secret fantasies of strength and power. One look into your violent imagination and sexual daydreams and it is obvious where your Mars resides. When you are creatively or imaginatively engaged your artistic style is very bold, aggressive, and emotional. Your characters are often dark, subtly powerful figures or they are tough and full of rage. You can accurately portray horror, destruction, anger, and subjects struggling with forces beyond their control. Plots are full of action, music is loud, paintings are colourful, and you bring a healthy dose of sex appeal to everything you do. This placement is shared by rock stars, revolutionaries, action heroes, sports figures, and writers alike. Art, fitness, beliefs, and spirituality are healthy and fulfilling ways for you to live out your Mars without it becoming overwhelming or destructive. It is also a way for you to give your masculinity away to the world without feeling as if you’ve lost anything. It is very important that you have some sort of healthy escapist outlet for your Mars. If you do not, the negative aspects of this planet will undo you from the inside of your head out, and you will destroy yourself in the process.
Energetic, fiery Mars is our inner warrior. He is the greatest source of power and strength we possess; our raw masculinity that strives to conquer, to aggressively go after what we want and achieve everything we ever wanted. He is connected to our sex drive and our potential for violent action, as well as our ambition and drive for success. Submerged in the deep waters of your subconscious mind he is left to dwell in a place where you do not see him. It might not even seem as though you have a Mars. You deny your competitiveness, aggression, anger, selfishness, and all your sexual desires, ignoring them and pretending they do not exist. It may feel safer not to let him out or let anybody know he is there. But repressing this side of yourself inside of your emotional mind does have some serious consequences for your mental and emotional health. You may passively let others control, manipulate, and walk all over your life. Then you have explosive, violent outbursts or manic episodes that appear at inappropriate times or over insignificant things. Other times you feel just sort of vaguely dissatisfied with what you do, never feeling as though you are getting what you want. Sulking, whining, submissiveness, lack of enthusiasm – all are symptoms of a weakened 12th House Mars energy.
Another part of Mars in the 12th House is escapism into secret fantasies of strength and power. One look into your violent imagination and sexual daydreams and it is obvious where your Mars resides. When you are creatively or imaginatively engaged your artistic style is very bold, aggressive, and emotional. Your characters are often dark, subtly powerful figures or they are tough and full of rage. You can accurately portray horror, destruction, anger, and subjects struggling with forces beyond their control. Plots are full of action, music is loud, paintings are colourful, and you bring a healthy dose of sex appeal to everything you do. This placement is shared by rock stars, revolutionaries, action heroes, sports figures, and writers alike. Art, fitness, beliefs, and spirituality are healthy and fulfilling ways for you to live out your Mars without it becoming overwhelming or destructive. It is also a way for you to give your masculinity away to the world without feeling as if you’ve lost anything. It is very important that you have some sort of healthy escapist outlet for your Mars. If you do not, the negative aspects of this planet will undo you from the inside of your head out, and you will destroy yourself in the process.
12th House VENUS
Our 12th House planets are given to us by our mothers, first through our umbilical connection to her in the womb and then throughout our young childhood. While she was pregnant she was dealing with turmoil within her relationships, possibly due to emotional problems, some form of abuse, or extramarital affairs. What you took from her was a strong but confusing femininity; one that you grew up somewhat ambivalent about and eventually chose to deny altogether. You see yourself deeply in love with Piscean people that you cannot be with, falling only for the unattainable in a relationship that ultimately cannot be. You find yourself compassionately loving those that can never fully love you back, allowing you to play out the role of saviour or martyr. Or you may find yourself being taken care of in an imbalanced relationship where you are the child being saved. Your search for perfection keeps you from ever being satisfied with what you have. Secret affairs are conducted by you as if your love cannot be confined to just one person at a time, and by your partner, as if you are drawn to those that will eventually hurt you. Overall, your relationships are wrought with shade of abuse, rivalry, envy, and deceit, and the overarching theme is “sacrifice”. But it is not only your relationships which are sacrificed to the world. Venus has other domains as well.
The 12th House is also your connection to the collective, and planets placed here show how you unite with the greater whole. With Venus here, you connect to the universal collective through beauty, harmony, the arts, and your loving relationships, and it is those things that you feel the need to “give up” to the world. When engaged creatively in the arts, the hearts of the world flow through you. Left on the page is a universal story that every person can relate to. A love of things symbolic, romantic, mythical, and fantastic in nature draws you to a world of imagination and dreamscapes. Often incorporated into your work are subtle, hidden themes that suggest you have a deep affection for the unseen levels of our world. Your personal style is a fusion of many others, combining to create a universally pleasing aesthetic. Whether you journey into visual arts like drawing and painting; performance arts like acting; poetry and creative writing; music like singing, playing instruments, or dancing; fashion design and modeling; or anything in between, your Venus becomes an enchantress in this realm. It is your destiny to discover that your purpose lies in giving beauty, harmony, pleasure, and love to the collective. But there are some issues that you must overcome first.
Our 12th House planets are given to us by our mothers, first through our umbilical connection to her in the womb and then throughout our young childhood. While she was pregnant she was dealing with turmoil within her relationships, possibly due to emotional problems, some form of abuse, or extramarital affairs. What you took from her was a strong but confusing femininity; one that you grew up somewhat ambivalent about and eventually chose to deny altogether. You see yourself deeply in love with Piscean people that you cannot be with, falling only for the unattainable in a relationship that ultimately cannot be. You find yourself compassionately loving those that can never fully love you back, allowing you to play out the role of saviour or martyr. Or you may find yourself being taken care of in an imbalanced relationship where you are the child being saved. Your search for perfection keeps you from ever being satisfied with what you have. Secret affairs are conducted by you as if your love cannot be confined to just one person at a time, and by your partner, as if you are drawn to those that will eventually hurt you. Overall, your relationships are wrought with shade of abuse, rivalry, envy, and deceit, and the overarching theme is “sacrifice”. But it is not only your relationships which are sacrificed to the world. Venus has other domains as well.
The 12th House is also your connection to the collective, and planets placed here show how you unite with the greater whole. With Venus here, you connect to the universal collective through beauty, harmony, the arts, and your loving relationships, and it is those things that you feel the need to “give up” to the world. When engaged creatively in the arts, the hearts of the world flow through you. Left on the page is a universal story that every person can relate to. A love of things symbolic, romantic, mythical, and fantastic in nature draws you to a world of imagination and dreamscapes. Often incorporated into your work are subtle, hidden themes that suggest you have a deep affection for the unseen levels of our world. Your personal style is a fusion of many others, combining to create a universally pleasing aesthetic. Whether you journey into visual arts like drawing and painting; performance arts like acting; poetry and creative writing; music like singing, playing instruments, or dancing; fashion design and modeling; or anything in between, your Venus becomes an enchantress in this realm. It is your destiny to discover that your purpose lies in giving beauty, harmony, pleasure, and love to the collective. But there are some issues that you must overcome first.
12TH HOUSE MERCURY
Mercury is not particularly productive or powerful within this house. When in the 12th the supposedly logical, rational, and intellectual part of your brain is muddied with the waters of the subconscious. You cannot see reality as it is in front of you – your vision is clouded with emotions, imagination, and illusions. It is difficult for you to tell the difference between your own thoughts and feelings and those of the people around you. Everything is connected; there are no distinctive lines drawn in between. The reason you are so secretive is that you do not know how to let people in and communicate these troubled, passionate feelings. And part of the reason you are so shy and soft-spoken is because you do not want to expose this side of yourself to others. A distinctive part of this placement is not talking very much. When people first meet you, they may not hear more than three loosely-strung-together sentences of small talk before you both go on your separate ways. But when you do open up, an entire world of imagination and anxious thoughts spill into the conversation. And before you know it, you’ve cracked open and let people see what is inside your head.
When you begin to open up it takes no time at all to notice your latent pessimism. In fact, one of the biggest obstacles you face in life is learning to overcome your negative thoughts. Nothing ever goes right, nothing is ever good enough, the world is full of horrible people, cruelty is everywhere, and everything is terrible all of the time. You are always equipped with a list of a million things in your life to complain about, aided by the distorted information you use to explain your troubles with. As well, you suffer from various shades of paranoia, especially about not being able to trust people and thinking they are out to try and hurt you. Obsessive, disturbing, or intrusive thoughts surface daily. You might think this is an exaggeration or a caricature of how you actually are. But observe and compare what you say and how you think to another, happier person, and you will immediately notice a difference between your temperament and theirs. Not everybody worries as much as you, nor does everyone suffer from periods of depression, hopelessness, or anxiety as often as you do. It is not normal or healthy for you to live like a prisoner in your own mind. Luckily, for your sake and the people who care about you, you possess all the power and capabilities to correct your own behaviour.
Mercury is not particularly productive or powerful within this house. When in the 12th the supposedly logical, rational, and intellectual part of your brain is muddied with the waters of the subconscious. You cannot see reality as it is in front of you – your vision is clouded with emotions, imagination, and illusions. It is difficult for you to tell the difference between your own thoughts and feelings and those of the people around you. Everything is connected; there are no distinctive lines drawn in between. The reason you are so secretive is that you do not know how to let people in and communicate these troubled, passionate feelings. And part of the reason you are so shy and soft-spoken is because you do not want to expose this side of yourself to others. A distinctive part of this placement is not talking very much. When people first meet you, they may not hear more than three loosely-strung-together sentences of small talk before you both go on your separate ways. But when you do open up, an entire world of imagination and anxious thoughts spill into the conversation. And before you know it, you’ve cracked open and let people see what is inside your head.
When you begin to open up it takes no time at all to notice your latent pessimism. In fact, one of the biggest obstacles you face in life is learning to overcome your negative thoughts. Nothing ever goes right, nothing is ever good enough, the world is full of horrible people, cruelty is everywhere, and everything is terrible all of the time. You are always equipped with a list of a million things in your life to complain about, aided by the distorted information you use to explain your troubles with. As well, you suffer from various shades of paranoia, especially about not being able to trust people and thinking they are out to try and hurt you. Obsessive, disturbing, or intrusive thoughts surface daily. You might think this is an exaggeration or a caricature of how you actually are. But observe and compare what you say and how you think to another, happier person, and you will immediately notice a difference between your temperament and theirs. Not everybody worries as much as you, nor does everyone suffer from periods of depression, hopelessness, or anxiety as often as you do. It is not normal or healthy for you to live like a prisoner in your own mind. Luckily, for your sake and the people who care about you, you possess all the power and capabilities to correct your own behaviour.
Posted by xiongmao
I have Mars and Jupiter there. My least favourite lol. Gives me tendencies to bottle up, only for it to explode shortly later. I do prefer solitude.
I just have my moon there.
Do you relate to one more than the other, both or neither?
Posted by Aquamarine_
So much good information on here. I love this thread because I have several planets in the 12th. Moon, Neptune, Uranus, Jupiter, and Ceres
Im going to come back and share my experience with these placements after I shower lol
Lionandfish do you have any planets in the 12th house? I would love to talk to more 12th housers
Wow that's a lot. Interested to know which feels more dominant and what sign it relates to. I only have my moon in 12th but feel it's true of me.
I have sun, merc and pluto, n my 12th house. I disagree with the description of Mercury the most.
Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
I have sun, merc and pluto, n my 12th house. I disagree with the description of Mercury the most.
Is Sun or Pluto more you?
Posted by LionandafishPosted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
I have sun, merc and pluto, n my 12th house. I disagree with the description of Mercury the most.
Is Sun or Pluto more you?click to expand
I have a pluto dominant chart, but its fair to say I can relate to a fair few of the descriptions for both. The parts for Merc I disagree with in particular is that I don't complain about things. I just get on with it, and I also don't agree with the description of when you first meet someone and only mumbling 3 words together 🙂. But this was a good read. Thank you for sharing it
Posted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by LionandafishPosted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
I have sun, merc and pluto, n my 12th house. I disagree with the description of Mercury the most.
Is Sun or Pluto more you?
I have a pluto dominant chart, but its fair to say I can relate to a fair few of the descriptions for both. The parts for Merc I disagree with in particular is that I don't complain about things. I just get on with it, and I also don't agree with the description of when you first meet someone and only mumbling 3 words together 🙂. But this was a good read. Thank you for sharing itclick to expand
Pluto seems like a dark one to have there. Sorry you had a tough hill to climb in life. ❤
Posted by LionandafishPosted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by LionandafishPosted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
I have sun, merc and pluto, n my 12th house. I disagree with the description of Mercury the most.
Is Sun or Pluto more you?
I have a pluto dominant chart, but its fair to say I can relate to a fair few of the descriptions for both. The parts for Merc I disagree with in particular is that I don't complain about things. I just get on with it, and I also don't agree with the description of when you first meet someone and only mumbling 3 words together 🙂. But this was a good read. Thank you for sharing it
Pluto seems like a dark one to have there. Sorry you had a tough hill to climb in life. ❤click to expand
It only makes you stronger 😁 and I'm not sorry, it's made me who I am today, all of lifes experiences shape us
Posted by TheFalangeReturnPosted by LionandafishPosted by TheFalangeReturn
Neptune there
Do you feel it's an accurate depiction of you?
Fuck noclick to expand
Hmm... if you say so.
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Neptune there
Do you feel it's an accurate depiction of you?
Fuck no
Hmm... if you say so.
Generic, the behavior is not dependent on the placement alone but in the overall chart balance imo
I think elements percentage is one of the best and most underrated chart's insightsclick to expand
Fair enough. You seem to know a lot about this stuff. I don't have a great understanding of astrology, I just find it interesting.
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Neptune there
Do you feel it's an accurate depiction of you?
Fuck no
Hmm... if you say so.
Generic, the behavior is not dependent on the placement alone but in the overall chart balance imo
I think elements percentage is one of the best and most underrated chart's insights
Fair enough. You seem to know a lot about this stuff. I don't have a great understanding of astrology, I just find it interesting.
Arent you on dxp for like years? lolclick to expand
Haven't been on for about 3 years. I just pop in every few years, stay for a few months then leave again.
Posted by Lionandafish
12th House SUN
Having the Sun placed in the 12th House is usually found in the chart of those whose mothers and fathers often fought with each other, ultimately resulting in some kind of disconnection from the father-figure. You grew up often feeling shorted on his support and encouragement, and your Sun was left ignored. As a result you suffer from a lack of healthy self-interest, self-love, aggression, competitiveness, and stunted creativity. Early life was difficult because you were constantly a victim of those around you. Bullying, exploitation, abusive relationships, and being smothered and controlled by your mother drove you to adopt a tougher, cooler, more emotionally distant veneer. But despite the facade you wore, deep down you remained depressed, introverted, shy, and misunderstood.
As mentioned before, the planets that are put in this house want to melt into collective unity with all things. That is why powers of compassion, empathy, and intuition are so prevalent in those with 12th house personalities, and why many act as a medium between the personal and collective worlds. The ego may not want to dissolve and become a part of everything around them (especially as it is so sensitive to negativity), which usually results in a complete denial of all things in this area of life. And yet the unseen parts of the world are so curiously fascinated, and somehow so fulfilling, that you will continued find yourself pulled back in by those around you. There is the chance, especially given your frequent pain and the crowds you run with, that you turn to methods of escapism like drug use or alcohol. Or perhaps spirituality, secular beliefs, occult, or religion may be what captures you. Other times it may be the imagination, creativity, writing and artistry that fulfill your desire to daydream and get lost in another universe. You are so shy and so secretive that no one may ever know which you indulge in the most.
12th house sun here, i'm definitely on the more secretive, though i prefer the word "private", side of things
Posted by rabidtalkerPosted by Lionandafish
12th House SUN
Having the Sun placed in the 12th House is usually found in the chart of those whose mothers and fathers often fought with each other, ultimately resulting in some kind of disconnection from the father-figure. You grew up often feeling shorted on his support and encouragement, and your Sun was left ignored. As a result you suffer from a lack of healthy self-interest, self-love, aggression, competitiveness, and stunted creativity. Early life was difficult because you were constantly a victim of those around you. Bullying, exploitation, abusive relationships, and being smothered and controlled by your mother drove you to adopt a tougher, cooler, more emotionally distant veneer. But despite the facade you wore, deep down you remained depressed, introverted, shy, and misunderstood.
As mentioned before, the planets that are put in this house want to melt into collective unity with all things. That is why powers of compassion, empathy, and intuition are so prevalent in those with 12th house personalities, and why many act as a medium between the personal and collective worlds. The ego may not want to dissolve and become a part of everything around them (especially as it is so sensitive to negativity), which usually results in a complete denial of all things in this area of life. And yet the unseen parts of the world are so curiously fascinated, and somehow so fulfilling, that you will continued find yourself pulled back in by those around you. There is the chance, especially given your frequent pain and the crowds you run with, that you turn to methods of escapism like drug use or alcohol. Or perhaps spirituality, secular beliefs, occult, or religion may be what captures you. Other times it may be the imagination, creativity, writing and artistry that fulfill your desire to daydream and get lost in another universe. You are so shy and so secretive that no one may ever know which you indulge in the most.
12th house sun here, i'm definitely on the more secretive, though i prefer the word "private", side of thingsclick to expand
In that case, tell me your secrets...
Posted by Misscappy
I kinda have a crazy theory about the rise of cesarean birth, the rise of 12th houser sun and the rise of divorce and parents separation rate -> or difficult relationship/disconnect with father or father taken from their life quickly.
So I remember taking an astrology workshop from a traditional astrologer (i forgot who, i took too many to remember 🤣). But he was explaining the houses not in a ABC way but was looking at it from the angles and gave the sun movement through the houses as an example.
Long story short, anything that is placed in the 12th is something that is taken away from you. Sun (especially in diurnal chart) is the significator of the father.
Now I also watched Wendy Stacey in astrology podcast was studying the rise of cesarean birth. C-sectio is a planned birth and usually most obgyn would do it early in the days (7-9 am) making so many children born with 12th house sun these days.
That's interesting. My best friends first 2 children are Scorpio. Her 2nd was induced 2 weeks early because they were worried about her pushing out a huge baby at full term after the 1st one. The 2nd baby was 10 pound anyway so she ended up getting an emergency C-Section after being unable to push her out. Baby #2 should have been a Sagittarius. The two are like chalk and cheese and came from the same mum and probably have different 12th houses.
Posted by MisscappyPosted by LionandafishPosted by Misscappy
I kinda have a crazy theory about the rise of cesarean birth, the rise of 12th houser sun and the rise of divorce and parents separation rate -> or difficult relationship/disconnect with father or father taken from their life quickly.
So I remember taking an astrology workshop from a traditional astrologer (i forgot who, i took too many to remember 🤣). But he was explaining the houses not in a ABC way but was looking at it from the angles and gave the sun movement through the houses as an example.
Long story short, anything that is placed in the 12th is something that is taken away from you. Sun (especially in diurnal chart) is the significator of the father.
Now I also watched Wendy Stacey in astrology podcast was studying the rise of cesarean birth. C-sectio is a planned birth and usually most obgyn would do it early in the days (7-9 am) making so many children born with 12th house sun these days.
That's interesting. My best friends first 2 children are Scorpio. Her 2nd was induced 2 weeks early because they were worried about her pushing out a huge baby at full term after the 1st one. The 2nd baby was 10 pound anyway so she ended up getting an emergency C-Section after being unable to push her out. Baby #2 should have been a Sagittarius. The two are like chalk and cheese and came from the same mum and probably have different 12th houses.
Same happened to me too! I was induced and after a full day being stuck in the 2nd stage, I ended up getting a c-sectio. I could've elect the time though! I wish I had studied astrology earlier 🤣
But in your bestfriend case, it's probably for the greater good. I can see scorpio-scorpio getting along better than scorpio-sagittarius siblings 🤣click to expand
What did you have and what would you prefer? Obviously you had a baby but like.. what sign.
Posted by MisscappyPosted by LionandafishPosted by MisscappyPosted by LionandafishPosted by Misscappy
I kinda have a crazy theory about the rise of cesarean birth, the rise of 12th houser sun and the rise of divorce and parents separation rate -> or difficult relationship/disconnect with father or father taken from their life quickly.
So I remember taking an astrology workshop from a traditional astrologer (i forgot who, i took too many to remember 🤣). But he was explaining the houses not in a ABC way but was looking at it from the angles and gave the sun movement through the houses as an example.
Long story short, anything that is placed in the 12th is something that is taken away from you. Sun (especially in diurnal chart) is the significator of the father.
Now I also watched Wendy Stacey in astrology podcast was studying the rise of cesarean birth. C-sectio is a planned birth and usually most obgyn would do it early in the days (7-9 am) making so many children born with 12th house sun these days.
That's interesting. My best friends first 2 children are Scorpio. Her 2nd was induced 2 weeks early because they were worried about her pushing out a huge baby at full term after the 1st one. The 2nd baby was 10 pound anyway so she ended up getting an emergency C-Section after being unable to push her out. Baby #2 should have been a Sagittarius. The two are like chalk and cheese and came from the same mum and probably have different 12th houses.
Same happened to me too! I was induced and after a full day being stuck in the 2nd stage, I ended up getting a c-sectio. I could've elect the time though! I wish I had studied astrology earlier 🤣
But in your bestfriend case, it's probably for the greater good. I can see scorpio-scorpio getting along better than scorpio-sagittarius siblings 🤣
What did you have and what would you prefer? Obviously you had a baby but like.. what sign.
Aquarius, february 2nd. She would still be an aquarius though, just 12 days early, my fluid was getting really low. She was supposed to be born on valentine's day. I always thought that would be cool 🤣
What I meant was, knowing I was about to go through a c-sectio, I could've chosen the operation time to be done at 9AM above. So her sun wouldnt be in the 12th 🤣🤪
My next child, if it really comes down to me having to do another c-sectio, i would definitely elect the time! Lolclick to expand
😂 manufactured astrology. I like it.
Posted by Aquamarine_Posted by LionandafishPosted by Aquamarine_
So much good information on here. I love this thread because I have several planets in the 12th. Moon, Neptune, Uranus, Jupiter, and Ceres
Im going to come back and share my experience with these placements after I shower lol
Lionandfish do you have any planets in the 12th house? I would love to talk to more 12th housers
Wow that's a lot. Interested to know which feels more dominant and what sign it relates to. I only have my moon in 12th but feel it's true of me.
All those placements except Neptune (29 Capricorn) are in Aquarius. With my moon being there people always say that Aqua moons are cold and detached
I feel like my moon being in the 12th does make me more emotional and sensitive than an average Aquarius moon.
Especially when I was younger. I wish I could get that back.
I do have a very strange relationship with my mother, my grandma raised me.
To be honest it’s hard for me to tell, but I feel all the 12th house plays a strong role in me.
I also have a Pisces stellium so at times I can’t tell if my traits are coming from there or the 12th house placements.
I am highly introverted and can spend a long time alone.
I have a good imagination probably due to these 12th house lol
Oh and it really messed with my mental health
You have an Aries moon right? Do you feel more timid and sensitive than thr typical Aries moon? I don’t relate to my moon sign so I wondered if other 12th house moons feel the sameclick to expand
That sounds like a lot of Pisces/12th house energy. What's your Sun?
I was a huge day dreamer all the way through highschool. Lived in my head but was also disruptive and hyper. Loved going clubbing to get lost in the beat of the music and dance til the sun comes up, never really liked talking to people but people seem to approach me a lot and knew my name but I never knew who they were or if I'd seen them before. I'm not really aware of people in my surroundings. These days, if I didn't have to work, I'd gladly stay home 24/7 and not see a soul. I can be social when I need to be, but i find people exhausting and need lots of down time. I also like sitting in silence with no TV or music. I find it calm and peaceful that way so I'm an introvert but am an extrovert and my Leo/Aries comes out with my close circle.
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I kinda have a crazy theory about the rise of cesarean birth, the rise of 12th houser sun and the rise of divorce and parents separation rate -> or difficult relationship/disconnect with father or father taken from their life quickly.
So I remember taking an astrology workshop from a traditional astrologer (i forgot who, i took too many to remember 🤣). But he was explaining the houses not in a ABC way but was looking at it from the angles and gave the sun movement through the houses as an example.
Long story short, anything that is placed in the 12th is something that is taken away from you. Sun (especially in diurnal chart) is the significator of the father.
Now I also watched Wendy Stacey in astrology podcast was studying the rise of cesarean birth. C-sectio is a planned birth and usually most obgyn would do it early in the days (7-9 am) making so many children born with 12th house sun these days.
That's interesting. My best friends first 2 children are Scorpio. Her 2nd was induced 2 weeks early because they were worried about her pushing out a huge baby at full term after the 1st one. The 2nd baby was 10 pound anyway so she ended up getting an emergency C-Section after being unable to push her out. Baby #2 should have been a Sagittarius. The two are like chalk and cheese and came from the same mum and probably have different 12th houses.
Same happened to me too! I was induced and after a full day being stuck in the 2nd stage, I ended up getting a c-sectio. I could've elect the time though! I wish I had studied astrology earlier 🤣
But in your bestfriend case, it's probably for the greater good. I can see scorpio-scorpio getting along better than scorpio-sagittarius siblings 🤣
What did you have and what would you prefer? Obviously you had a baby but like.. what sign.
Aquarius, february 2nd. She would still be an aquarius though, just 12 days early, my fluid was getting really low. She was supposed to be born on valentine's day. I always thought that would be cool 🤣
What I meant was, knowing I was about to go through a c-sectio, I could've chosen the operation time to be done at 9AM above. So her sun wouldnt be in the 12th 🤣🤪
My next child, if it really comes down to me having to do another c-sectio, i would definitely elect the time! Lolclick to expand
Thats interesting my twins due date was 25th January being high risk they would of induced 2 weeks early. They had other ideas and arrived on the 13th December. So instrad of being Aquarius naturally or Capricorn had they been induced they are Sagittarius. They have saturn in the 12th. They do have a Capricorn and Pisces Stellium too
I have mars in aquarius and both mars and aquarius in 12th house. I pretty much agree with everything except the repression of my sex drive.
I literally have no sex drive. I wank like twice a week max, have no desire to engage in sexual activity and view sex as a chore. I used to want it all the time until I lost my V Card, but it was so disappointing my desire literally disappeared overnight. Sex is overrated as fuck.
I literally have no sex drive. I wank like twice a week max, have no desire to engage in sexual activity and view sex as a chore. I used to want it all the time until I lost my V Card, but it was so disappointing my desire literally disappeared overnight. Sex is overrated as fuck.
Posted by MisscappyPosted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by MisscappyPosted by LionandafishPosted by MisscappyPosted by LionandafishPosted by Misscappy
I kinda have a crazy theory about the rise of cesarean birth, the rise of 12th houser sun and the rise of divorce and parents separation rate -> or difficult relationship/disconnect with father or father taken from their life quickly.
So I remember taking an astrology workshop from a traditional astrologer (i forgot who, i took too many to remember 🤣). But he was explaining the houses not in a ABC way but was looking at it from the angles and gave the sun movement through the houses as an example.
Long story short, anything that is placed in the 12th is something that is taken away from you. Sun (especially in diurnal chart) is the significator of the father.
Now I also watched Wendy Stacey in astrology podcast was studying the rise of cesarean birth. C-sectio is a planned birth and usually most obgyn would do it early in the days (7-9 am) making so many children born with 12th house sun these days.
That's interesting. My best friends first 2 children are Scorpio. Her 2nd was induced 2 weeks early because they were worried about her pushing out a huge baby at full term after the 1st one. The 2nd baby was 10 pound anyway so she ended up getting an emergency C-Section after being unable to push her out. Baby #2 should have been a Sagittarius. The two are like chalk and cheese and came from the same mum and probably have different 12th houses.
Same happened to me too! I was induced and after a full day being stuck in the 2nd stage, I ended up getting a c-sectio. I could've elect the time though! I wish I had studied astrology earlier 🤣
But in your bestfriend case, it's probably for the greater good. I can see scorpio-scorpio getting along better than scorpio-sagittarius siblings 🤣
What did you have and what would you prefer? Obviously you had a baby but like.. what sign.
Aquarius, february 2nd. She would still be an aquarius though, just 12 days early, my fluid was getting really low. She was supposed to be born on valentine's day. I always thought that would be cool 🤣
What I meant was, knowing I was about to go through a c-sectio, I could've chosen the operation time to be done at 9AM above. So her sun wouldnt be in the 12th 🤣🤪
My next child, if it really comes down to me having to do another c-sectio, i would definitely elect the time! Lol
Thats interesting my twins due date was 25th January being high risk they would of induced 2 weeks early. They had other ideas and arrived on the 13th December. So instrad of being Aquarius naturally or Capricorn had they been induced they are Sagittarius. They have saturn in the 12th. They do have a Capricorn and Pisces Stellium too
Hahahaha 🤣 Sagittarius deciding to surprise everyone even before they were born 🤣
It's so cool that you have a twin! Was it planned or was it a natural pregnancy? I always wanted to have twins 😍🥰
What are their rising sign? Saturn in the 12th is actually good. As 12th house is the joy of saturn where saturn rejoice. Once they learn boundaries, that saturn would actually act as a protector rather than giving its malefic influence. I'd pick saturn 12th anytime than saturn in any houses below the horizon like the 1st 🤣🤣click to expand
Was natural 😁 they are non identical twins but people who don't know them struggle to tell them apart, though they are changing more and more as they get older. They are Libra Ascendant ❤
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I kinda have a crazy theory about the rise of cesarean birth, the rise of 12th houser sun and the rise of divorce and parents separation rate -> or difficult relationship/disconnect with father or father taken from their life quickly.
So I remember taking an astrology workshop from a traditional astrologer (i forgot who, i took too many to remember 🤣). But he was explaining the houses not in a ABC way but was looking at it from the angles and gave the sun movement through the houses as an example.
Long story short, anything that is placed in the 12th is something that is taken away from you. Sun (especially in diurnal chart) is the significator of the father.
Now I also watched Wendy Stacey in astrology podcast was studying the rise of cesarean birth. C-sectio is a planned birth and usually most obgyn would do it early in the days (7-9 am) making so many children born with 12th house sun these days.
That's interesting. My best friends first 2 children are Scorpio. Her 2nd was induced 2 weeks early because they were worried about her pushing out a huge baby at full term after the 1st one. The 2nd baby was 10 pound anyway so she ended up getting an emergency C-Section after being unable to push her out. Baby #2 should have been a Sagittarius. The two are like chalk and cheese and came from the same mum and probably have different 12th houses.
Same happened to me too! I was induced and after a full day being stuck in the 2nd stage, I ended up getting a c-sectio. I could've elect the time though! I wish I had studied astrology earlier 🤣
But in your bestfriend case, it's probably for the greater good. I can see scorpio-scorpio getting along better than scorpio-sagittarius siblings 🤣
What did you have and what would you prefer? Obviously you had a baby but like.. what sign.
Aquarius, february 2nd. She would still be an aquarius though, just 12 days early, my fluid was getting really low. She was supposed to be born on valentine's day. I always thought that would be cool 🤣
What I meant was, knowing I was about to go through a c-sectio, I could've chosen the operation time to be done at 9AM above. So her sun wouldnt be in the 12th 🤣🤪
My next child, if it really comes down to me having to do another c-sectio, i would definitely elect the time! Lol
Thats interesting my twins due date was 25th January being high risk they would of induced 2 weeks early. They had other ideas and arrived on the 13th December. So instrad of being Aquarius naturally or Capricorn had they been induced they are Sagittarius. They have saturn in the 12th. They do have a Capricorn and Pisces Stellium too
Hahahaha 🤣 Sagittarius deciding to surprise everyone even before they were born 🤣
It's so cool that you have a twin! Was it planned or was it a natural pregnancy? I always wanted to have twins 😍🥰
What are their rising sign? Saturn in the 12th is actually good. As 12th house is the joy of saturn where saturn rejoice. Once they learn boundaries, that saturn would actually act as a protector rather than giving its malefic influence. I'd pick saturn 12th anytime than saturn in any houses below the horizon like the 1st 🤣🤣
Was natural 😁 they are non identical twins but people who don't know them struggle to tell them apart, though they are changing more and more as they get older. They are Libra Ascendant ❤
You're so blessed!! 💕🥰click to expand
Thank you 🤗
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I have mars in aquarius and both mars and aquarius in 12th house. I pretty much agree with everything except the repression of my sex drive.
I literally have no sex drive. I wank like twice a week max, have no desire to engage in sexual activity and view sex as a chore. I used to want it all the time until I lost my V Card, but it was so disappointing my desire literally disappeared overnight. Sex is overrated as fuck.
Can I ask you something out of curiosity?
Were you born during the day or night? How is your relationship with big animals? (Bigger than sheeps).
Does your feet/leg often ache or have problem with the leg?
Do you somehow have hidden enemies? How do you feel about going into a talent show or competition that can be seen in public?
Sorry for the long questions lol 🤣click to expand
I was born in the early morning hours. Larger animals are somewhat scary. I remember one of my exes had horses and if they made any sudden moves I'd feel like they were about to attack.
My feet hurt, I have plantar fasciitus.
No hidden enemies, just a lot of people who manage to irritate me. If I had any talents aside from being good at first person shooters and being able to diagnose and fix cars Id be happy to enter into a talent show.
Finally a description of 12th house Mercury that doesn't mention anything about being psychic or clairvoyant.
I have Mercury and Jupiter in 12th, and these descriptions are accurate.
I have Mercury and Jupiter in 12th, and these descriptions are accurate.
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I have mars in aquarius and both mars and aquarius in 12th house. I pretty much agree with everything except the repression of my sex drive.
I literally have no sex drive. I wank like twice a week max, have no desire to engage in sexual activity and view sex as a chore. I used to want it all the time until I lost my V Card, but it was so disappointing my desire literally disappeared overnight. Sex is overrated as fuck.
Can I ask you something out of curiosity?
Were you born during the day or night? How is your relationship with big animals? (Bigger than sheeps).
Does your feet/leg often ache or have problem with the leg?
Do you somehow have hidden enemies? How do you feel about going into a talent show or competition that can be seen in public?
Sorry for the long questions lol 🤣
I was born in the early morning hours. Larger animals are somewhat scary. I remember one of my exes had horses and if they made any sudden moves I'd feel like they were about to attack.
My feet hurt, I have plantar fasciitus.
No hidden enemies, just a lot of people who manage to irritate me. If I had any talents aside from being good at first person shooters and being able to diagnose and fix cars Id be happy to enter into a talent show.
Wow thank you for your response! 🙂
Astrology is indeed very fascinating sometimes.click to expand
So tell me what you found out from your answers. 🙂
My moon is Gemini in the 12th and I’m happy it is there. Sure it’s not easy being so sensitive but I prefer it this way than the opposite, since I’m still very grounded. It really softens me up in a way, and balances out my extrovertedness with a profound need to escape and withdraw within myself.
It is true, I have an estranged relationship with my mother(s). I say this bc my birth mother was very young and had me after she was raped, and gave me up for adoption to my mom. My mom, who was terminally ill most of my life, and I had a tumultuous but loving relationship which only started to really calm in the year before her death when I was 17. I talked on the phone with my birth mother for what turned out to be the first and only time when I was 18, and wasn’t yet ready to handle the emotions that came with that—mostly because I was still grieving, and would be for many years. Years later, I tracked down my little half brother via Facebook. I figured he would be old enough to be on there and I was right! Long story short(er), I went to meet my brother in 2014 for the first time. He was living with his dad who brought him. Two weeks or months (idk which yet) later—she passes away too. Now I only found this out a few months ago so it’s fresh on my mind still.
So yes, I find mines accurate lol.
My ex fiancé had Neptune there and reading the description only makes me miss him more.... it hurts to miss someone so much.... and to know I fucked it up.... anyway, yeah accurate af.
It is true, I have an estranged relationship with my mother(s). I say this bc my birth mother was very young and had me after she was raped, and gave me up for adoption to my mom. My mom, who was terminally ill most of my life, and I had a tumultuous but loving relationship which only started to really calm in the year before her death when I was 17. I talked on the phone with my birth mother for what turned out to be the first and only time when I was 18, and wasn’t yet ready to handle the emotions that came with that—mostly because I was still grieving, and would be for many years. Years later, I tracked down my little half brother via Facebook. I figured he would be old enough to be on there and I was right! Long story short(er), I went to meet my brother in 2014 for the first time. He was living with his dad who brought him. Two weeks or months (idk which yet) later—she passes away too. Now I only found this out a few months ago so it’s fresh on my mind still.
So yes, I find mines accurate lol.
My ex fiancé had Neptune there and reading the description only makes me miss him more.... it hurts to miss someone so much.... and to know I fucked it up.... anyway, yeah accurate af.
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12th House SATURN
In the months leading up to your birth your mother was stressed over money her relationship with your father. During your childhood you saw her further taking on a defeatist attitude towards everything life threw at her. Your father may have been absent or otherwise unable to provide a sense of security for the family. Looking into the past you are still haunted by these painful experiences, the memories of which you continue to secretly dwell on. Unable or unwilling to confront these negative emotions, afraid of being engulfed by them, you banish them to the inner recesses of your subconscious mind. But repressed memories never go away; pushing them down, they hide in the darkness and continue to influence you in subtle ways you are not aware of. By denying “weak” emotions and not submitting to authority you give yourself a feeling of control. You seek out structure and permanence but suffer from bouts of doubt, insecurity, depression, and have nervous breakdowns, and have a multitude of trust issues still buried underneath a calm exterior.
When one looks at your dreams, imagination, and spirituality – all things of the 12th House domain – they see how those things are influenced by Saturn lurking underneath. As long as you repress your emotions other areas of your subconscious mind will be repressed as well. It is your inner craving for security and structure that compels you to initially reject and deny all things spiritual and imaginative, just as you reject and deny your own repressed emotions. You may seek out drugs and alcohol to help manage the depression that stems from painful experiences. Yet even though this may work at times it is an unhealthy and unproductive way of managing your feelings. Like flowers sprouting out of the soil, your belief structures and creative ideas carry a certain Saturn quality into the outside world. For a period of your life you will struggle to dedicate yourself to faith and will be more secure in the world of science. Many with this placement are capable of becoming doctors, politicians, and scientists for this reason. Something about objective scientific proof that something is real comforts you. You will also be imaginatively and artistically stunted, focusing more on technical and practical skills instead. When you do consider divinity, unresolved feelings from your parents are projected onto fate: anger, cynicism, hopelessness, and a feeling rejected, overlooked, and not cared about.
This probably would've been true for me had my parents lived. But them dying young makes me imagine things would've been better and different.
Posted by saggurl88Posted by Lionandafish
12th House SATURN
In the months leading up to your birth your mother was stressed over money her relationship with your father. During your childhood you saw her further taking on a defeatist attitude towards everything life threw at her. Your father may have been absent or otherwise unable to provide a sense of security for the family. Looking into the past you are still haunted by these painful experiences, the memories of which you continue to secretly dwell on. Unable or unwilling to confront these negative emotions, afraid of being engulfed by them, you banish them to the inner recesses of your subconscious mind. But repressed memories never go away; pushing them down, they hide in the darkness and continue to influence you in subtle ways you are not aware of. By denying “weak” emotions and not submitting to authority you give yourself a feeling of control. You seek out structure and permanence but suffer from bouts of doubt, insecurity, depression, and have nervous breakdowns, and have a multitude of trust issues still buried underneath a calm exterior.
When one looks at your dreams, imagination, and spirituality – all things of the 12th House domain – they see how those things are influenced by Saturn lurking underneath. As long as you repress your emotions other areas of your subconscious mind will be repressed as well. It is your inner craving for security and structure that compels you to initially reject and deny all things spiritual and imaginative, just as you reject and deny your own repressed emotions. You may seek out drugs and alcohol to help manage the depression that stems from painful experiences. Yet even though this may work at times it is an unhealthy and unproductive way of managing your feelings. Like flowers sprouting out of the soil, your belief structures and creative ideas carry a certain Saturn quality into the outside world. For a period of your life you will struggle to dedicate yourself to faith and will be more secure in the world of science. Many with this placement are capable of becoming doctors, politicians, and scientists for this reason. Something about objective scientific proof that something is real comforts you. You will also be imaginatively and artistically stunted, focusing more on technical and practical skills instead. When you do consider divinity, unresolved feelings from your parents are projected onto fate: anger, cynicism, hopelessness, and a feeling rejected, overlooked, and not cared about.
This probably would've been true for me had my parents lived. But them dying young makes me imagine things would've been better and different.click to expand
❤ I'm sorry you lost them. I hope whoever did care for you gave you all the love you deserved xx
Posted by LionandafishPosted by saggurl88Posted by Lionandafish
12th House SATURN
In the months leading up to your birth your mother was stressed over money her relationship with your father. During your childhood you saw her further taking on a defeatist attitude towards everything life threw at her. Your father may have been absent or otherwise unable to provide a sense of security for the family. Looking into the past you are still haunted by these painful experiences, the memories of which you continue to secretly dwell on. Unable or unwilling to confront these negative emotions, afraid of being engulfed by them, you banish them to the inner recesses of your subconscious mind. But repressed memories never go away; pushing them down, they hide in the darkness and continue to influence you in subtle ways you are not aware of. By denying “weak” emotions and not submitting to authority you give yourself a feeling of control. You seek out structure and permanence but suffer from bouts of doubt, insecurity, depression, and have nervous breakdowns, and have a multitude of trust issues still buried underneath a calm exterior.
When one looks at your dreams, imagination, and spirituality – all things of the 12th House domain – they see how those things are influenced by Saturn lurking underneath. As long as you repress your emotions other areas of your subconscious mind will be repressed as well. It is your inner craving for security and structure that compels you to initially reject and deny all things spiritual and imaginative, just as you reject and deny your own repressed emotions. You may seek out drugs and alcohol to help manage the depression that stems from painful experiences. Yet even though this may work at times it is an unhealthy and unproductive way of managing your feelings. Like flowers sprouting out of the soil, your belief structures and creative ideas carry a certain Saturn quality into the outside world. For a period of your life you will struggle to dedicate yourself to faith and will be more secure in the world of science. Many with this placement are capable of becoming doctors, politicians, and scientists for this reason. Something about objective scientific proof that something is real comforts you. You will also be imaginatively and artistically stunted, focusing more on technical and practical skills instead. When you do consider divinity, unresolved feelings from your parents are projected onto fate: anger, cynicism, hopelessness, and a feeling rejected, overlooked, and not cared about.
This probably would've been true for me had my parents lived. But them dying young makes me imagine things would've been better and different.
❤ I'm sorry you lost them. I hope whoever did care for you gave you all the love you deserved xxclick to expand
Well I was just saying I can't blame my parents for the damage, which I guess is better than reading this and thinking I would've been worse off! lol
Posted by saggurl88Posted by LionandafishPosted by saggurl88Posted by Lionandafish
12th House SATURN
In the months leading up to your birth your mother was stressed over money her relationship with your father. During your childhood you saw her further taking on a defeatist attitude towards everything life threw at her. Your father may have been absent or otherwise unable to provide a sense of security for the family. Looking into the past you are still haunted by these painful experiences, the memories of which you continue to secretly dwell on. Unable or unwilling to confront these negative emotions, afraid of being engulfed by them, you banish them to the inner recesses of your subconscious mind. But repressed memories never go away; pushing them down, they hide in the darkness and continue to influence you in subtle ways you are not aware of. By denying “weak” emotions and not submitting to authority you give yourself a feeling of control. You seek out structure and permanence but suffer from bouts of doubt, insecurity, depression, and have nervous breakdowns, and have a multitude of trust issues still buried underneath a calm exterior.
When one looks at your dreams, imagination, and spirituality – all things of the 12th House domain – they see how those things are influenced by Saturn lurking underneath. As long as you repress your emotions other areas of your subconscious mind will be repressed as well. It is your inner craving for security and structure that compels you to initially reject and deny all things spiritual and imaginative, just as you reject and deny your own repressed emotions. You may seek out drugs and alcohol to help manage the depression that stems from painful experiences. Yet even though this may work at times it is an unhealthy and unproductive way of managing your feelings. Like flowers sprouting out of the soil, your belief structures and creative ideas carry a certain Saturn quality into the outside world. For a period of your life you will struggle to dedicate yourself to faith and will be more secure in the world of science. Many with this placement are capable of becoming doctors, politicians, and scientists for this reason. Something about objective scientific proof that something is real comforts you. You will also be imaginatively and artistically stunted, focusing more on technical and practical skills instead. When you do consider divinity, unresolved feelings from your parents are projected onto fate: anger, cynicism, hopelessness, and a feeling rejected, overlooked, and not cared about.
This probably would've been true for me had my parents lived. But them dying young makes me imagine things would've been better and different.
❤ I'm sorry you lost them. I hope whoever did care for you gave you all the love you deserved xx
Well I was just saying I can't blame my parents for the damage, which I guess is better than reading this and thinking I would've been worse off! lolclick to expand
I think there's a limit to how much we can blame on them anyway. At some point we need to become responsible for our own mistakes and choices and our self development is also on us.
Posted by LionandafishPosted by saggurl88Posted by LionandafishPosted by saggurl88Posted by Lionandafish
12th House SATURN
In the months leading up to your birth your mother was stressed over money her relationship with your father. During your childhood you saw her further taking on a defeatist attitude towards everything life threw at her. Your father may have been absent or otherwise unable to provide a sense of security for the family. Looking into the past you are still haunted by these painful experiences, the memories of which you continue to secretly dwell on. Unable or unwilling to confront these negative emotions, afraid of being engulfed by them, you banish them to the inner recesses of your subconscious mind. But repressed memories never go away; pushing them down, they hide in the darkness and continue to influence you in subtle ways you are not aware of. By denying “weak” emotions and not submitting to authority you give yourself a feeling of control. You seek out structure and permanence but suffer from bouts of doubt, insecurity, depression, and have nervous breakdowns, and have a multitude of trust issues still buried underneath a calm exterior.
When one looks at your dreams, imagination, and spirituality – all things of the 12th House domain – they see how those things are influenced by Saturn lurking underneath. As long as you repress your emotions other areas of your subconscious mind will be repressed as well. It is your inner craving for security and structure that compels you to initially reject and deny all things spiritual and imaginative, just as you reject and deny your own repressed emotions. You may seek out drugs and alcohol to help manage the depression that stems from painful experiences. Yet even though this may work at times it is an unhealthy and unproductive way of managing your feelings. Like flowers sprouting out of the soil, your belief structures and creative ideas carry a certain Saturn quality into the outside world. For a period of your life you will struggle to dedicate yourself to faith and will be more secure in the world of science. Many with this placement are capable of becoming doctors, politicians, and scientists for this reason. Something about objective scientific proof that something is real comforts you. You will also be imaginatively and artistically stunted, focusing more on technical and practical skills instead. When you do consider divinity, unresolved feelings from your parents are projected onto fate: anger, cynicism, hopelessness, and a feeling rejected, overlooked, and not cared about.
This probably would've been true for me had my parents lived. But them dying young makes me imagine things would've been better and different.
❤ I'm sorry you lost them. I hope whoever did care for you gave you all the love you deserved xx
Well I was just saying I can't blame my parents for the damage, which I guess is better than reading this and thinking I would've been worse off! lol
I think there's a limit to how much we can blame on them anyway. At some point we need to become responsible for our own mistakes and choices and our self development is also on us.click to expand
Completely agree!
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I almost feel like if Pluto is domicile in Scorpio, it should be exalted in Leo.
Everything people say about Scorpios being vindictive, hateful, dark, paranoid, and masters at screwing others over is more true for Leos. I find that Leo men are heavily dr
Hi, new member here! I've been aware of this forum and have occasionally lurked the first couple of years I was studying astrology. I'm posting now because I've found myself stuck in life and I've been going over my natal chart for years trying figure out
Alright, this jealous Scorpio-moon woman is creating a mess in my life - because I happen to be in the way of her revenge-spree against her Mother-in-Law.
Long story short, she is making anonymous late-night phone calls to my family members bad-mouthing
like the creepy guy chasing the girl that is not interested?
Oh man...
you done did it now y'all..
Sooooo.
I just wanted to call out each and every one of you being the amazing, tolerant, and sweet people you are who can put up with a lot. I know I've been an annoying chit but that's because, man, don't even kno
I seen a lot of posts from sag women about cancer men etccc I would've never thought this to be a match... so i dunno just let me know what's up
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