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*sigh*

I'm not sure if he's serious or just being manipulative. He confuses the hell out of me. He didn't kill himself that night (I calmed him down) but I'm still scared for him. I love him so much but he's way too clingy. What do you guys think based upon his placements?

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Anyone who claims they'll harm themselves when someone exercises their rights is in need of help.



Even if you stay. He will display underlying symptoms of his sickness that slowly ooze into all that surrounds him.



It's NOT okay to use that shit as manipulation.



You said you love him? Are you okay with this? What do you think when he says that stuff? I've been there too.
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@xXxQueenliciaXxX No, I'm not back, just desperate. I'm going to stay by his side. He apologized and said it wouldn't happen again. Even if we don't stay together as a couple, I'm going to always be in his life regardless. Thanks.

@Lunabee Yes, I love him. But it scares me. I'm going to stay with him regardless. I just want to know if he's serious.

@Tiziani Ikr :/
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@xXxQueenliciaXxX No, I'm not back, just desperate. I'm going to stay by his side. He apologized and said it wouldn't happen again. Even if we don't stay together as a couple, I'm going to always be in his life regardless. Thanks.

@Lunabee Yes, I love him. But it scares me. I'm going to stay with him regardless. I just want to know if he's serious.

@Tiziani Ikr :/


You will stay. I commend that. Just be mindful to the possibility that he could be using your relationship with him as his reason for living. The issue with that is his lack of self worth. He must find passions outside of you to persevere.

But - if you won't leave and he lives for you then perhaps it's a match, ya know? You mentioned his clingy nature. Are you OK with that? Do you want more from him?
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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.

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You're entitled to that!

OK, hypothetical scenario. Hear me out.

What if, when you said that he encouraged you. Stood strong and asked if he could help.

Would that scenerio reinforce anything?
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@LadyNeptune I think so too. Just wasn't sure.

@Lunabee I'm okay with the clinginess I guess. But i do need space. He's also very possessive and sadly I have that same trait (possessiveness) so I do require a partner like that. We both have the Venus trine Pluto aspect. But I agree with you.
if my man said he wanted SPACE.

I would cry. I don't like men like that.

so I would wonder about you, being a woman wantin space.

you are NOT into him at all.
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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.


if you want a break you are not into him.

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Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.

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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.


if you want a break you are not into him.


Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.

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then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??

only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,

unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,

I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.
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People who are truly suicidal don't 'threaten' to kill themselves. That's a manipulation tactic.
Not entirely accurate.

There are situations where people talk about it and then go on to do it. And the only reason they succeeded is because nobody believed them or weren't listening.
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I never said they don't talk about it. In my experience they absolutely do. But theres a HUGE difference in saying "I'm going to kill myself" and "I'm going to kill myself if you do/do not do x, y, and z".

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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.



Thats not fair to someone who has grown emotionally dependent on you. Poor guy. He loves you and will miss you. Why cant you work on yourselves together?

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The question is, why did she want a break? And every human is entitled to take a break. I'd support it but secretly hate it. But support it none the less.
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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.



Thats not fair to someone who has grown emotionally dependent on you. Poor guy. He loves you and will miss you. Why cant you work on yourselves together?

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I wasn't expecting him to be like this. It all happened so quickly. I even told him I didn't want to be in any relationships the first time we met but he wouldn't listen. I can't do both. I want to give my all in a relationship. Can't do that while working on myself and I can only help myself.

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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.


if you want a break you are not into him.


Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.




then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??

only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,

unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,

I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.

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This might be an alien concept to you but there IS such a thing as being in a relationship AND having your own personal space. There are couples who are not clingy with each other and have their own activities going on.

A break/time - out happens when one partner gets too clingy and encroaches into the other's personal space. It can become very emotionally overwhelming for the other person.
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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.



Thats not fair to someone who has grown emotionally dependent on you. Poor guy. He loves you and will miss you. Why cant you work on yourselves together?




The question is, why did she want a break? And every human is entitled to take a break. I'd support it but secretly hate it. But support it none the less.

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you would "secretly" hate it but support it?? that's wishy washy thinking. and not being TRUE to yourself.
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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.


if you want a break you are not into him.


Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.




then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??

only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,

unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,

I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.


This might be an alien concept to you but there IS such a thing as being in a relationship AND having your own personal space. There are couples who are not clingy with each other and have their own activities going on.

A break/time - out happens when one partner gets too clingy and encroaches into the other's personal space. It can become very emotionally overwhelming for the other person.
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??

did you forget that the guy is wanting suicide??

or did that FLY over your head cause wanting space is so much more important.
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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.



Thats not fair to someone who has grown emotionally dependent on you. Poor guy. He loves you and will miss you. Why cant you work on yourselves together?




The question is, why did she want a break? And every human is entitled to take a break. I'd support it but secretly hate it. But support it none the less.




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you would "secretly" hate it but support it?? that's wishy washy thinking. and not being TRUE to yourself.

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No. I can disagree but understand.
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@xXxQueenliciaXxX No, I'm not back, just desperate. I'm going to stay by his side. He apologized and said it wouldn't happen again. Even if we don't stay together as a couple, I'm going to always be in his life regardless. Thanks.

@Lunabee Yes, I love him. But it scares me. I'm going to stay with him regardless. I just want to know if he's serious.

@Tiziani Ikr :/

Nobody here can tell you if he's serious. There's only one person who knows and you know who that is.

In my experience, most people who say shit like that are just manipulative assholes. They don't deserve the concern people feel for them.

I'd be very slow to act like I believe him if I were you. Stay calm and don't give him any type of big emotional response. That response in itself could stoke his ego. If he acts even crazier when he doesn't get a rise from you, that means this is all about his ego and what you can do for it.
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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.


if you want a break you are not into him.


Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.




then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??

only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,

unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,

I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.


She did explain. Did you miss the part about how she wanted to work on herself and didn't have the energy to entertain a relationship? Relationships are WORK. Especially when you have some mentally unstable person threatening to off themselves anytime you need space. ?

I couldn't deal. Master manipulation.

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then don't be in a relationship if they are WORK.

people will get mentally and emotionally UNSTABLE if you fly off the handle and get a hair up your ass wanting to leave for space.

it causes a lot of emotional turmoil and pain.
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People who are truly suicidal don't 'threaten' to kill themselves. That's a manipulation tactic.
Not entirely accurate.

There are situations where people talk about it and then go on to do it. And the only reason they succeeded is because nobody believed them or weren't listening.
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Yes, I think I might call that "consider" or "plan" suicide - they don't say they'll kill themselves if the other person does, or doesn't do, something for them (it isn't an ultimatum), so it isn't a threat in that way.

2/3 of the people I've known who killed themselves had planned it for a long time, and talked about it with others, but it was never something that they threatened to do if certain conditions by their loved ones weren't met. The 3rd I don't think told anyone anything, his depression radically worsened after being on an antidepressant (during the time period that's said to be a higher risk for suicide when first going on those drugs) and he hung himself.

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@LadyNeptune I think so too. Just wasn't sure.

@Lunabee I'm okay with the clinginess I guess. But i do need space. He's also very possessive and sadly I have that same trait (possessiveness) so I do require a partner like that. We both have the Venus trine Pluto aspect. But I agree with you.
How did you feel when he threatened to kill himself?
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Numb. I was just so focused on calming him. I couldn't cry. Didn't cry until the next day.

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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.



Thats not fair to someone who has grown emotionally dependent on you. Poor guy. He loves you and will miss you. Why cant you work on yourselves together?




The question is, why did she want a break? And every human is entitled to take a break. I'd support it but secretly hate it. But support it none the less.




— 😕

you would "secretly" hate it but support it?? that's wishy washy thinking. and not being TRUE to yourself.


No. I can disagree but understand.

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you are way too NICE. in relationships.
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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.



Thats not fair to someone who has grown emotionally dependent on you. Poor guy. He loves you and will miss you. Why cant you work on yourselves together?




The question is, why did she want a break? And every human is entitled to take a break. I'd support it but secretly hate it. But support it none the less.




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you would "secretly" hate it but support it?? that's wishy washy thinking. and not being TRUE to yourself.

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It fly's a red flag when you feel a certain way and back off and instead of the person, claiming they love you, try to help their first response is to end their life. That is not healthy, not conducive.
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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.


if you want a break you are not into him.


Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.




then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??

only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,

unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,

I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.


This might be an alien concept to you but there IS such a thing as being in a relationship AND having your own personal space. There are couples who are not clingy with each other and have their own activities going on.

A break/time - out happens when one partner gets too clingy and encroaches into the other's personal space. It can become very emotionally overwhelming for the other person.


??

did you forget that the guy is wanting suicide??

or did that FLY over your head cause wanting space is so much more important.
Why are you making this her problem—? Please tell me you are joking right now.

He doesn't need her. He needs a psychologist.

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it IS HER problem.

DUH.
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@LadyNeptune I think so too. Just wasn't sure.

@Lunabee I'm okay with the clinginess I guess. But i do need space. He's also very possessive and sadly I have that same trait (possessiveness) so I do require a partner like that. We both have the Venus trine Pluto aspect. But I agree with you.
How did you feel when he threatened to kill himself?
Numb. I was just so focused on calming him. I couldn't cry. Didn't cry until the next day.

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Why did you want to leave? To take a moment away?
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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.



Thats not fair to someone who has grown emotionally dependent on you. Poor guy. He loves you and will miss you. Why cant you work on yourselves together?




The question is, why did she want a break? And every human is entitled to take a break. I'd support it but secretly hate it. But support it none the less.




— 😕

you would "secretly" hate it but support it?? that's wishy washy thinking. and not being TRUE to yourself.


No. I can disagree but understand.


you are way too NICE. in relationships.
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What does even mean?
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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.


if you want a break you are not into him.


Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.




then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??

only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,

unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,

I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.


She did explain. Did you miss the part about how she wanted to work on herself and didn't have the energy to entertain a relationship? Relationships are WORK. Especially when you have some mentally unstable person threatening to off themselves anytime you need space. ?

I couldn't deal. Master manipulation.






then don't be in a relationship if they are WORK.

people will get mentally and emotionally UNSTABLE if you fly off the handle and get a hair up your ass wanting to leave for space.

it causes a lot of emotional turmoil and pain.
I have never in my adult life wanted to kill myself over a man. No honey. That's not normal. And that is not her problem.

He needs a psych evaluation. If his life depends on HER I promise you SHE is not the problem it goes way deeper than her. I cannot believe you are trying to lay a guilt trip. The same men that threaten to kill themselves over a break up are the same type that will KILL over a breakup.

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so ABSOLVE yourself of any responsibility whatsoever.

OKaayyyyyyyy dokkeeeyyy.
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Posted by xXxQueenliciaXxX
Ok, now that I'm over my initial shock, I have to answer this seriously.



I was in an abusive relationship a long time ago.



The person who abused me, used threats of suicide as a means of keeping me around also.



I also felt like I was "in love" with this person. In the long run, I got fucked over big time. I was never the same after that toxic relationship.



You are playing a dangerous game right now and it really worries me that you don't see just how bad what he's doing to you really is.
You are too precious to be abused.

Glad you got out.
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Alicia was abused??

she seems so strong, when she was posting in the scorpio forum awhile back how she kicked and punched this Scorpio woman in a bar. O_O

I wouldn't even do that i'm too scared.

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@LadyNeptune I think so too. Just wasn't sure.

@Lunabee I'm okay with the clinginess I guess. But i do need space. He's also very possessive and sadly I have that same trait (possessiveness) so I do require a partner like that. We both have the Venus trine Pluto aspect. But I agree with you.
How did you feel when he threatened to kill himself?
Numb. I was just so focused on calming him. I couldn't cry. Didn't cry until the next day.




Why did you want to leave? To take a moment away?

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Yeah. Being in relationships where I'm not giving my all make me uncomfortable. I needed to work on myself before I could give him what he deserved. He does so much for me. I want to do more.

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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.


if you want a break you are not into him.


Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.




then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??

only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,

unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,

I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.


This might be an alien concept to you but there IS such a thing as being in a relationship AND having your own personal space. There are couples who are not clingy with each other and have their own activities going on.

A break/time - out happens when one partner gets too clingy and encroaches into the other's personal space. It can become very emotionally overwhelming for the other person.


??

did you forget that the guy is wanting suicide??

or did that FLY over your head cause wanting space is so much more important.
Why are you making this her problem—? Please tell me you are joking right now.

He doesn't need her. He needs a psychologist.


it IS HER problem.

DUH.


Maybe you're nuts too. ?

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no you're even NUTTIER.

cause you are just don't care about people who want to commit suicide.

you call them crazy and don't care about them.



Look at what happened to Robin Williams, SUICIDE!!!



no one gives a flying fuck.

but when they die, everyone goes AWWW.
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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.


if you want a break you are not into him.


Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.




then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??

only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,

unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,

I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.


This might be an alien concept to you but there IS such a thing as being in a relationship AND having your own personal space. There are couples who are not clingy with each other and have their own activities going on.

A break/time - out happens when one partner gets too clingy and encroaches into the other's personal space. It can become very emotionally overwhelming for the other person.


??

did you forget that the guy is wanting suicide??

or did that FLY over your head cause wanting space is so much more important.
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Read again what I posted and then tell me if that's what I was saying.

You've admitted to being clingy yourself so I don't expect you to understand. Her space, in this case, is for her to sort herself out and get herself together. His threats means he doesn't want that for her, and she's the selfish one??lol

But it makes no sense that her mental health should be compromised just because he doesn't sort himself out. Someone already said, he needs professional help. So he should find that instead trying to drag hee down with him. This isn't Romeo and Juliet.
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@LadyNeptune I think so too. Just wasn't sure.

@Lunabee I'm okay with the clinginess I guess. But i do need space. He's also very possessive and sadly I have that same trait (possessiveness) so I do require a partner like that. We both have the Venus trine Pluto aspect. But I agree with you.
How did you feel when he threatened to kill himself?
Numb. I was just so focused on calming him. I couldn't cry. Didn't cry until the next day.




Why did you want to leave? To take a moment away?


Yeah. Being in relationships where I'm not giving my all make me uncomfortable. I needed to work on myself before I could give him what he deserved. He does so much for me. I want to do more.

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Why do you feel you aren't giving it your all?

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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.


if you want a break you are not into him.


Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.




then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??

only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,

unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,

I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.


This might be an alien concept to you but there IS such a thing as being in a relationship AND having your own personal space. There are couples who are not clingy with each other and have their own activities going on.

A break/time - out happens when one partner gets too clingy and encroaches into the other's personal space. It can become very emotionally overwhelming for the other person.


??

did you forget that the guy is wanting suicide??

or did that FLY over your head cause wanting space is so much more important.
Why are you making this her problem—? Please tell me you are joking right now.

He doesn't need her. He needs a psychologist.


it IS HER problem.

DUH.


Maybe you're nuts too. ?


no you're even NUTTIER.

cause you are just don't care about people who want to commit suicide.

you call them crazy and don't care about them.



Look at what happened to Robin Williams, SUICIDE!!!



no one gives a flying fuck.

but when they die, everyone goes AWWW.
Robin williams had his own demons, i am sure he doesn't blame anyone else for his suicide.

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and thank god too.

or we'd get some peeps like this getting upset and calling men manipulative.

No wonder Robin Williams kept it QUIET.

i'd be quiet too!!
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this is what im saying, people need to take time outs in their relationships, like 2-3 week timeouts to regroup and think of their own individual lives.

what ya'll think that relationships should have time out contracts.

no cheating during that period, no harming, just a time to seek yourself and your purpose.

maybe like 3 times a year, just a week or two retreat for self.
No. I need sex on the regular and if your taking a 2-3 week break that violates our relationship contract.
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Why are you leaving him? What did he do?
That's the crazy part, I wasn't even leaving because of him nor was I leaving for good. I wanted a break to work on myself. Just didn't have the energy to invest in a relationship and I'm an all or nothing type of person.


if you want a break you are not into him.


Nope. I'm very into him. I'm just mature and selfless enough not to stay in a relationship where I'm not giving my all. People don't deserve that.




then EXPLAIN why he is threatening suicide??

only selfish peeps want to leave when there is nothing that you are going to leave from,

unless he has brutally physically abused you, or threatened to kill you,

I don't see any reason why you need to leave for breaks.


She did explain. Did you miss the part about how she wanted to work on herself and didn't have the energy to entertain a relationship? Relationships are WORK. Especially when you have some mentally unstable person threatening to off themselves anytime you need space. ?

I couldn't deal. Master manipulation.






then don't be in a relationship if they are WORK.

people will get mentally and emotionally UNSTABLE if you fly off the handle and get a hair up your ass wanting to leave for space.

it causes a lot of emotional turmoil and pain.
I have never in my adult life wanted to kill myself over a man. No honey. That's not normal. And that is not her problem.

He needs a psych evaluation. If his life depends on HER I promise you SHE is not the problem it goes way deeper than her. I cannot believe you are trying to lay a guilt trip. The same men that threaten to kill themselves over a break up are the same type that will KILL over a breakup.


so ABSOLVE yourself of any responsibility whatsoever.

OKaayyyyyyyy dokkeeeyyy.
She is NOT responsible for his life. Breakups happen. That's fucking life. Part of being an adult. What rock do you live under?

I don't know what kind of battered woman's syndrome you've got going on over there, but she's not accountable for any actions that aren't her OWN.



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oh see??! this is why people should NOT tell other people what happens in their life personally because if you REVEAL

you wanted to commit suicide, you are a FREAK and manipulative and stupid.

or if you got with an abusive man you are a weak ass battered woman syndrome. You cant REVEAL anything cause you got people like you being assholes about people's vulnerabilities and weaknesses.

this is WHY people keep quiet. because of people like you.

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If people want to commit suicide and you know them personally like a family member, they would NEVER tell you.

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