cappy acting totally weird-help?

So i have been neighbours with this cappy guy for the past year but we had never talked since two months ago that i added him on facebook.We are around the same age. 20-22. He took his time to accept my friend request (almost two-three weeks after i had sent the request even if he logged every day). He has the bad boy rumor and he lives with another guy (my first thought- he's gay- a lot of people seem to believe that) Anyway i begin to talk to him. He talks to me like we've known each other a long time , and we've only talked three times, he says he doesn't believe in love and that he just wants to have fun. He claims to be "open minded" but when i bring the gay topic up -like if he wants to have fun he can try with boys instead of girls- he gets quite mad and accuses me of not knowing the term "open-minded" . He is definitely acting weird but i really want to get to know him. Any help ? - I am a Sag btw.

Posted by res
Maybe just pissed at the label you put to two men having see. Y does it have t be gay that two guys Fuck each other? Doesn't make sense to me, and maybe you have just irate the Fuck out of him so he's blew you off.

There are rumors about him being gay. And the guy he lives with IS gay. I didn't want to make him feel bad about that i just need him to open up to me somehow..

You guys have lived next to each other for a year and have spoken 3 times and you expect him to come out with it and open up—

Lol.. Sadge.. You clearly do not know how earth signs operate.

If he's Gay why are you interested? Just curious.

For the most part he doesn't appear all that interested in you. You can do better. Try to do better.

Posted by tiki33
If he's Gay why are you interested? Just curious.

For the most part he doesn't appear all that interested in you. You can do better. Try to do better.

I just want to get to know him. Call it curiosity i guess..

Get to know him why?

You can't get to know him if you're already assuming he's Gay.

Also why would you want to be with a bad boy whose possibly Gay? What is your motivation for being interested in a guy who doesn't believe in love and only wants to have fun which all comes down to any woman who deals with him will essentially be his fuck buddy.

Maybe you should reconsider getting to know him if you're looking for a boyfriend--romantic partner to share and connect with b/c he's not interested in that.

Posted by Peanutbutter
You guys have lived next to each other for a year and have spoken 3 times and you expect him to come out with it and open up—

Lol.. Sadge.. You clearly do not know how earth signs operate.

Yeah if I did i wouldn't be asking for help. It took me 3 months to get a Cancer guy to start opening up to me.And that guy wouldn't lie to me. This cappy lies all the time, like he is trying to make an impression. for example i ask him about his relations with art and he wrote a paragraph about what instruments he plays, what he draws and stuff. So what should i know that i clearly don't? 🙂

Posted by tiki33
Get to know him why?

You can't get to know him if you're already assuming he's Gay.

Also why would you want to be with a bad boy whose possibly Gay? What is your motivation for being interested in a guy who doesn't believe in love and only wants to have fun which all comes down to any woman who deals with him will essentially be his fuck buddy.

Maybe you should reconsider getting to know him if you're looking for a boyfriend--romantic partner to share and connect with b/c he's not interested in that.

There's a mystery about him. I don't know why i am attracted to him. I think that If i get to know him it might go over.. I don't know how to explain this but as my friend told me if she had heard all those things about him she would be running the opposite direction but me- i'm heading towrads it...

You don't know him. He's NOT going to open up to you. Caps only open up to people we know and trust. Trust has to be earned. There are people I've known for years and I still don't open up to them.

People that pry and are nosy or intrusive are the LAST people I'd open up to. Nope, not going to happen.

Posted by truecap
You don't know him. He's NOT going to open up to you. Caps only open up to people we know and trust. Trust has to be earned. There are people I've known for years and I still don't open up to them.

People that pry and are nosy or intrusive are the LAST people I'd open up to. Nope, not going to happen.

thank you for your help!

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Posted by Peanutbutter
You guys have lived next to each other for a year and have spoken 3 times and you expect him to come out with it and open up—

Lol.. Sadge.. You clearly do not know how earth signs operate.

Yeah if I did i wouldn't be asking for help. It took me 3 months to get a Cancer guy to start opening up to me.And that guy wouldn't lie to me. This cappy lies all the time, like he is trying to make an impression. for example i ask him about his relations with art and he wrote a paragraph about what instruments he plays, what he draws and stuff. So what should i know that i clearly don't? 🙂

What should you know? You have to wait. There is not a single Cap I know that I did not need some form of patience with them.

I think a good place to start is to be supportive based on the things he is telling you and tell him a little about yourself. But he will only open up when he wants to. This is the part that absolutely cannot be rushed.

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Good to know, thanks!

He ignores you, all you know about him is rumours and you found it necessary to mention to someone who people already accuse of being gay that he could try guys instead of girls even though he never even hinted at that.
I would put you in the crazy, tattle tale book and ignore you. Like hell I would open up and share my inner most feelings with you.

Why little Sagg? What was going through that head of yours?

Posted by TigerCap
He ignores you, all you know about him is rumours and you found it necessary to mention to someone who people already accuse of being gay that he could try guys instead of girls even though he never even hinted at that.
I would put you in the crazy, tattle tale book and ignore you. Like hell I would open up and share my inner most feelings with you.

Why little Sagg? What was going through that head of yours?

well to be honest i wasn't going to mention that gay thing at all but he kinda irritated me cause while we were having a normal convo and i was beginning to understand a part of him, he took a 360o turn and turned to sex again about how he could not find grls our age to have fun... Well i couldn't keep myself and said it.. But I do want to get to know this riddle...

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Posted by TigerCap
He ignores you, all you know about him is rumours and you found it necessary to mention to someone who people already accuse of being gay that he could try guys instead of girls even though he never even hinted at that.
I would put you in the crazy, tattle tale book and ignore you. Like hell I would open up and share my inner most feelings with you.

Why little Sagg? What was going through that head of yours?

well to be honest i wasn't going to mention that gay thing at all but he kinda irritated me cause while we were having a normal convo and i was beginning to understand a part of him, he took a 360o turn and turned to sex again about how he could not find grls our age to have fun... Well i couldn't keep myself and said it.. But I do want to get to know this riddle...

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360 is still going in the same direction. 😉

The thing is, you are too focused on understanding him like it is some kind of simple line that will tell you all there is to know about him that you don't seem to be able to just take a step back and observe him.
See what he is doing. How he responds.

This could have been his way of testing your response.
One thing I read about Caps once is that they like to give you a rope and see how you hang yourself with it. That's exactly what you did. You tied the knot and kicked away the chair.

If you really want to get to know him just relax and take a step back. If you keep going like this you will most likely just run into outrageous stories and claims.

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Posted by TigerCap
He ignores you, all you know about him is rumours and you found it necessary to mention to someone who people already accuse of being gay that he could try guys instead of girls even though he never even hinted at that.
I would put you in the crazy, tattle tale book and ignore you. Like hell I would open up and share my inner most feelings with you.

Why little Sagg? What was going through that head of yours?

well to be honest i wasn't going to mention that gay thing at all but he kinda irritated me cause while we were having a normal convo and i was beginning to understand a part of him, he took a 360o turn and turned to sex again about how he could not find grls our age to have fun... Well i couldn't keep myself and said it.. But I do want to get to know this riddle...

360 is still going in the same direction. 😉

The thing is, you are too focused on understanding him like it is some kind of simple line that will tell you all there is to know about him that you don't seem to be able to just take a step back and observe him.
See what he is doing. How he responds.

This could have been his way of testing your response.
One thing I read about Caps once is that they like to give you a rope and see how you hang yourself with it. That's exactly what you did. You tied the knot and kicked away the chair.

If you really want to get to know him just relax and take a step back. If you keep going like this you will most likely just run into outrageous stories and claims.

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Thank you but is his behavior normal?

The not opening up, is that normal? uhmmm...., yes, that's what we've been saying.

Posted by truecap
The not opening up, is that normal? uhmmm...., yes, that's what we've been saying.

+1

Only to those we trust and only after a very long time. You need to be patient.
You seem to be too curious about his secrets. Caps hate that and will just stonewall you.

Of course there is a mystery about him...He lies all the time lol yeeesh

You can't possibly get to know a guy who lies. Lies are meant to avoid intimacy and getting to know other people.

What is wrong with you and your life you'd take a possibly Gay bad boy who lies on?

I agree with TigerCap something is cray cray about you. You don't seem to have an ounce of self awareness, you just walk on through the fire with gasoline draws on.

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Yeah if I did i wouldn't be asking for help. It took me 3 months to get a Cancer guy to start opening up to me.

Posted by jmarc

There are rumors about him being gay. And the guy he lives with IS gay. I didn't want to make him feel bad about that i just need him to open up to me somehow..

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It's not the Cap she's interested in.
It's the curiousity of the cat that keeps her intrigued.

I see a pattern here....

"Not necessarily. This can apply to someone who tends to keeps to themselves."

People who keep to themselves don't reveal what they don't want others to know. They don't lie b/c they don't have to life, they don't reveal whatever it is they don't want others to know simply by not answering or jumping into a new subject.

He is just lying for the hell of it. Chronic liars lie because they don't want to connect with others intimately which aligns itself with him revealing he does not believe in love. If he doesn't believe in love then surely he does not believe in being honest. Love is truth.

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Posted by Peanutbutter
You guys have lived next to each other for a year and have spoken 3 times and you expect him to come out with it and open up—

Lol.. Sadge.. You clearly do not know how earth signs operate.

Yeah if I did i wouldn't be asking for help. It took me 3 months to get a Cancer guy to start opening up to me.And that guy wouldn't lie to me. This cappy lies all the time, like he is trying to make an impression. for example i ask him about his relations with art and he wrote a paragraph about what instruments he plays, what he draws and stuff. So what should i know that i clearly don't? 🙂

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WAIT!!!!!!

I don't see any evidence that he actually lies. This is something she said and gave the example when she asked about art, he wrote about the instruments he plays and what he draws.

How is that lying?? Instruments and drawing is about art. To me the instrument and pen are his relationship with art. That is not lying.

Just because she didn't get the answer she wanted, she is assuming he lies.

I think she's the cray cray -

Unless Art is a guy's name.....

Even then, the instrument and pen are a clever answer - avoidance, but not lying.

Hahahaha!!!

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Posted by TigerCap
He ignores you, all you know about him is rumours and you found it necessary to mention to someone who people already accuse of being gay that he could try guys instead of girls even though he never even hinted at that.
I would put you in the crazy, tattle tale book and ignore you. Like hell I would open up and share my inner most feelings with you.

Why little Sagg? What was going through that head of yours?

well to be honest i wasn't going to mention that gay thing at all but he kinda irritated me cause while we were having a normal convo and i was beginning to understand a part of him, he took a 360o turn and turned to sex again about how he could not find grls our age to have fun... Well i couldn't keep myself and said it.. But I do want to get to know this riddle...

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And here. Maybe he was hinting that you are girl his age he could have fun with..... or a challenge to prove you could be fun.....

You might have gotten a date.... but noooooooo, you had to mention he might be gay and suggested he try guys.

How crazy is that?

She said per her own words "Yeah if I did i wouldn't be asking for help. It took me 3 months to get a Cancer guy to start opening up to me.And that guy wouldn't lie to me. This cappy lies all the time"

I can only go by what she the person who created the thread is saying. She stated he lies all the time, I don't have to assume or make this shit up.

As for truth and love. Love is truth period and if he separates the two that's on him.

Per his own words "he does not believe in love", per her own words about him "he lies all the time" this is not rocket science.

He lies and i know that because a)he said he doesn't go out much- he is never home
2)said a score one day about how he did on bowling.(the score was really hign like 276) The same night a friend of mine was there and told me he sucked at the game.. I get the whole lying to make an impression though..

Posted by jmarc
He lies and i know that because a)he said he doesn't go out much- he is never home
2)said a score one day about how he did on bowling.(the score was really hign like 276) The same night a friend of mine was there and told me he sucked at the game.. I get the whole lying to make an impression though..

Going out or having a drink with mates at their place are two different things. Weak example.

"I'm me! How ever can he not open up and like me—"

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Posted by jmarc
He lies and i know that because a)he said he doesn't go out much- he is never home
2)said a score one day about how he did on bowling.(the score was really hign like 276) The same night a friend of mine was there and told me he sucked at the game.. I get the whole lying to make an impression though..

Going out or having a drink with mates at their place are two different things. Weak example.

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Okay, thing is HE LIES. And i really don't get it. Because one moment he seems to talk to me like we've known eachother for quite a long time and the next he withdraws... fyi when i said that thing about art i just said that i paint sometimes... and besides the whole instrument playing, designing he said he does - i didn't say that this was the lie- he went on saying that he designs facelift for cars. Which is impossible.. and i know that 100% for sure.

Posted by jmarc
He lies and i know that because a)he said he doesn't go out much- he is never home
2)said a score one day about how he did on bowling.(the score was really hign like 276) The same night a friend of mine was there and told me he sucked at the game.. I get the whole lying to make an impression though..

Just because he's not home, doesn't mean he's going out. He could be doing a number of things, but "going out" might not be one of them. That's an assumption, not a flat out lie.

The bowling score, well, ehh....., who cares what his score was. That's not a big lie, even if he did lie about it. EVERYONE has fibbed about bowling or golf scores before. That's not enough to base that someone's an acutal habitual liar.

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He lies and i know that because a)he said he doesn't go out much- he is never home
2)said a score one day about how he did on bowling.(the score was really hign like 276) The same night a friend of mine was there and told me he sucked at the game.. I get the whole lying to make an impression though..

Going out or having a drink with mates at their place are two different things. Weak example.

Okay, thing is HE LIES. And i really don't get it. Because one moment he seems to talk to me like we've known eachother for quite a long time and the next he withdraws... fyi when i said that thing about art i just said that i paint sometimes... and besides the whole instrument playing, designing he said he does - i didn't say that this was the lie- he went on saying that he designs facelift for cars. Which is impossible.. and i know that 100% for sure.

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I think he talks to you like normal, then feels you being pushy or skeptical asking too many questions, therefore he shuts down. It's as simple as that. You're prying. If you talk to him normal and let him tell you what he wants to tell you on his own time, you will find out more information. The more you ask, the less he will tell.

Oh, and did you ever consider, maybe he just doesn't want to be friends with you?

And another thing, if you think he lies so much, why do you want to be friends with him??


Another is, maybe he lies to you because you ask too many questions and he thinks it's funny to tell you something outrageous. You don't believe him anyway, so why not tell something false on purpose just to see how far you would go? Sounds like something a young cap would do.

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Posted by jmarc
He lies and i know that because a)he said he doesn't go out much- he is never home
2)said a score one day about how he did on bowling.(the score was really hign like 276) The same night a friend of mine was there and told me he sucked at the game.. I get the whole lying to make an impression though..

Going out or having a drink with mates at their place are two different things. Weak example.

Okay, thing is HE LIES. And i really don't get it. Because one moment he seems to talk to me like we've known eachother for quite a long time and the next he withdraws... fyi when i said that thing about art i just said that i paint sometimes... and besides the whole instrument playing, designing he said he does - i didn't say that this was the lie- he went on saying that he designs facelift for cars. Which is impossible.. and i know that 100% for sure.

I think he talks to you like normal, then feels you being pushy or skeptical asking too many questions, therefore he shuts down. It's as simple as that. You're prying. If you talk to him normal and let him tell you what he wants to tell you on his own time, you will find out more information. The more you ask, the less he will tell.

Oh, and did you ever consider, maybe he just doesn't want to be friends with you?

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Actually i have.And i have heard that a lot of cappies can talk to you normal even if they do not like you. But there is that mystery that i like about him...That's why I want to get to know him. I don't know what he likes...I said everything i know i've heard from around. I never trust rumors but still they were a base because i knew nothing about him.

Posted by truecap
And another thing, if you think he lies so much, why do you want to be friends with him??


Another is, maybe he lies to you because you ask too many questions and he thinks it's funny to tell you something outrageous. You don't believe him anyway, so why not tell something false on purpose just to see how far you would go? Sounds like something a young cap would do.

Well i haven't confronted him in any of the lies because i didn't want to create any tension and wanted to see how it will go...

Do you have fixed placements in your chart?

Posted by rockyroadicecream
Do you have fixed placements in your chart?

Have what?

What does YOUR chart look like?

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What does YOUR chart look like?

Sun in Sag
Moon in Libra
Mercurcy in Sag
Venus in Sag
Mars in Sag
Jupiter in Scorpio
Saturn in Aquarius
Uranus in Capricorn
Neptune in Cap
Pluto Scorpio

I guess that explains a lot huh?

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Posted by jmarc

Actually i have.And i have heard that a lot of cappies can talk to you normal even if they do not like you. But there is that mystery that i like about him...That's why I want to get to know him. I don't know what he likes...I said everything i know i've heard from around. I never trust rumors but still they were a base because i knew nothing about him.

Does he need to talk to you out of obligation?

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—? not really

Posted by unknown2u
Jmarc are you a male?

no why?

Posted by unknown2u
Jmarc are you a male?

I was thinking the same thing at first.

What I don't understand is how his "lying" could be intriguing to you. I get people have different things that strikes their curiousity, but for many that would be a turn off. Whether he is lying or not he probably won't ever open up to what you consider his "true self". Hell, who knows he probably has but you assume he lies so much that possibly its you lying to yourself? I don't know...

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Posted by unknown2u
Jmarc are you a male?

I was thinking the same thing at first.

What I don't understand is how his "lying" could be intriguing to you. I get people have different things that strikes their curiousity, but for many that would be a turn off. Whether he is lying or not he probably won't ever open up to what you consider his "true self". Hell, who knows he probably has but you assume he lies so much that possibly its you lying to yourself? I don't know...

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sorry i guess i have issues.. He's cute, i like him, i want to get to know him..

I am not saying you have issues, but how can you get to know someone if your always skeptical of what they say. You've stated you talked to others to validate if he is lying or not and for all you know they could possibly be lying.

To me it would be tiresome to always have this doubt about someone in the back of my mind. If you like him and want to get to know him then stop talking to others about him and bringing up hearsay in your conversations. You will find out the truth eventually and thats just the chance you have to take.

Posted by Eula
I am not saying you have issues, but how can you get to know someone if your always skeptical of what they say. You've stated you talked to others to validate if he is lying or not and for all you know they could possibly be lying.

To me it would be tiresome to always have this doubt about someone in the back of my mind. If you like him and want to get to know him then stop talking to others about him and bringing up hearsay in your conversations. You will find out the truth eventually and thats just the chance you have to take.

You're right, thank you!

Yep, your chart explains a lot.

You're just pulling some typical Sag bs here. You're interested, you want something, and do not like the idea that you just cannot have it nor that the guy is not interested. That is just oh so unacceptable!!

Not being snarky, I have a Sag brother and have seen some of the dumb shit other Sags have done. You guys just are stupidly ridiculous when you don't get something your way or the way you want it to go.

Posted by rockyroadicecream
Yep, your chart explains a lot.

You're just pulling some typical Sag bs here. You're interested, you want something, and do not like the idea that you just cannot have it nor that the guy is not interested. That is just oh so unacceptable!!

Not being snarky, I have a Sag brother and have seen some of the dumb shit other Sags have done. You guys just are stupidly ridiculous when you don't get something your way or the way you want it to go.

that normally fits but in this case i really want to get to know him first..

But he doesn't seem interested in the same. Why are you forcing it? Why are you so hell bent on this??

Because of the way he talks to me like he knows me already

Oh lawdy lawd...

Sadge, stop being so pushy with the inquisitions.. that will only make him shut down more. Honestly I dont see what good will come of getting to know someone you say lies to you.

Furthermore, you are approaching the poor guy with evidence you gathered from rumors.. Not a good start...

Just back off for a while maybe that'll wash away the cray cray image you are portraying and let him come to you.. NO more pobing and proding let him ask the questions and if he doesn't well hes just not that interested.

Earth signs need to take things slow and you my dear are a little red corvette... Chill out, let him sense that you are mellow and not out to pounce on the poor guy... Im trying to help since you say you want to get to know him.
GL lady.

Lololol Rocky..