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Cardinal Energy
Posted by Hamsthetics
Basicness :p
You guys are just as lazy as us mutables, when it comes to interacting with each other! 😛
cardinal = directing the flow
mutable = going with the flow
Cardinal can change direction of the flow as many times as they think is needed whereas mutable goes with the flow as many times as that flow changes.
So on the surface they appear the same but Cardinal energy is more about control than adaptation, although learning how to adapt would ease Cardinal's anxiety much more. It's a life lesson for Cardinals to learn when to control and when to adapt.
Cardinals are the most likely to try their best to mold situations to their liking... mutables don't really do that. Mutables go with it as long as it works for them and when it doesn't they just leave or adapt.
mutable = going with the flow
Cardinal can change direction of the flow as many times as they think is needed whereas mutable goes with the flow as many times as that flow changes.
So on the surface they appear the same but Cardinal energy is more about control than adaptation, although learning how to adapt would ease Cardinal's anxiety much more. It's a life lesson for Cardinals to learn when to control and when to adapt.
Cardinals are the most likely to try their best to mold situations to their liking... mutables don't really do that. Mutables go with it as long as it works for them and when it doesn't they just leave or adapt.
Posted by HamstheticsPosted by saggurl88Posted by Hamsthetics
Basicness :p
You guys are just as lazy as us mutables, when it comes to interacting with each other! 😛
No, we are lazier!
Thats why we have fewer Serial Killers compared to Mutables.
#kthxbyeclick to expand
LMAO
being a cardinal i def see the difference...
Posted by Arinoaqua
Definitely don’t feel the same as a mutable. Mutable is like the waves of the ocean. Go with the flow. Cardinal does not go with the flow.
I think of Aries as a category of it's own when it comes to Cardinal energy.
Posted by Antiphates
Mutable rearranges.
Cardinal breaks walls.
Wow this is actually a great analogy. Thanks I can see the meaning behind it.
Posted by WarAngel
Quite simply: the energy of starting something and almost never following through. 🤭
LMAO, I think this is why I think of them so similar to mutable energy.
Posted by Tomboyyyy
Mutable is adaptive. Cardinal is active.
I’m dominant in both.
But Cardinal needs progression whereas mutability simply needs change. There is a big difference in which Cardinal tends to have a direction they are working for whereas mutable tends to bounce around in response to different stimulus or situations with less of a strategy or position.
I would say that Cardinals always need a project and sometimes that project is their partner. I know people like to think Virgo is the one that likes to change their partners but really they are trying to serve. Cardinals are trying to create something that they can influence and add to their stash of accomplishments. That’s why they tend to like people who play up to their ego and are a little bit lower in status in their eyes so that when that person “grows” they can claim it as their own effect.
Just something I’ve noticed over the years in watching others and noticing my own habits.
I agree with everything you wrote. Very well written. Thanks.
Posted by PowerLunchPosted by Arinoaqua
Definitely don’t feel the same as a mutable. Mutable is like the waves of the ocean. Go with the flow. Cardinal does not go with the flow.
Cardinal is like a bidetclick to expand
A gentler and more hygienic way to clean up after pooping?
Posted by peachy06
They start things.
But never finish them.
🤷🏻♀️
Only if it's worthwhile, otherwise, we'll transition to 'bigger fish to fry' 🐳. One of the reasons I rarely watch movies is that once I get the idea or figure out what's going to happen, I see it as a waste of time and go learn something else.
Posted by Nightcap-Posted by peachy06
They start things.
But never finish them.
🤷🏻♀️
Only if it's worthwhile, otherwise, we'll transition to 'bigger fish to fry' 🐳. One of the reasons I rarely watch movies is that once I get the idea or figure out what's going to happen, I see it as a waste of time and go learn something else.click to expand
That double cardinal energy! Does it make you think you know it all? There could still be a surprise ending.
Fixed signs are consistent but they stay stuck in their situation and don't really aim for much more.
Cardinals have the vision to take the first step and hire the fixed signs to handle the minutia.
Cardinals have the vision to take the first step and hire the fixed signs to handle the minutia.
Posted by WarAngelPosted by TheClassyPosted by WarAngel
Quite simply: the energy of starting something and almost never following through. 🤭
Sometimes you finding out in the middle it's not affordable to put more energy. What can you do 🤷🏻♀️😂
Power through like a fixed sign. 😎click to expand
The thing I love about fixed energy. The staying power. I envy that.
Posted by saggurl88Posted by Nightcap-Posted by peachy06
They start things.
But never finish them.
🤷🏻♀️
Only if it's worthwhile, otherwise, we'll transition to 'bigger fish to fry' 🐳. One of the reasons I rarely watch movies is that once I get the idea or figure out what's going to happen, I see it as a waste of time and go learn something else.
That double cardinal energy! Does it make you think you know it all? There could still be a surprise ending.click to expand
I'm mutable dominant (mostly Sag and some Pisces) so Cardinal combined with flow/feel/intuition 😛
Posted by Nightcap-Posted by saggurl88Posted by Nightcap-Posted by peachy06
They start things.
But never finish them.
🤷🏻♀️
Only if it's worthwhile, otherwise, we'll transition to 'bigger fish to fry' 🐳. One of the reasons I rarely watch movies is that once I get the idea or figure out what's going to happen, I see it as a waste of time and go learn something else.
That double cardinal energy! Does it make you think you know it all? There could still be a surprise ending.
I'm mutable dominant (mostly Sag and some Pisces) so Cardinal combined with flow/feel/intuition 😛click to expand
Yes and that terrible Aries moon as well. 😛 flow/feel/intuition sounds amazing.
Posted by saggurl88Posted by Nightcap-Posted by saggurl88Posted by Nightcap-Posted by peachy06
They start things.
But never finish them.
🤷🏻♀️
Only if it's worthwhile, otherwise, we'll transition to 'bigger fish to fry' 🐳. One of the reasons I rarely watch movies is that once I get the idea or figure out what's going to happen, I see it as a waste of time and go learn something else.
That double cardinal energy! Does it make you think you know it all? There could still be a surprise ending.
I'm mutable dominant (mostly Sag and some Pisces) so Cardinal combined with flow/feel/intuition 😛
Yes and that terrible Aries moon as well. 😛 flow/feel/intuition sounds amazing.click to expand
😄 It's not that bad if you can harness it and use that intense heat to power you forward. It just looks cray cray on water signs lol
Posted by peachy06Posted by Nightcap-Posted by peachy06
They start things.
But never finish them.
🤷🏻♀️
Only if it's worthwhile, otherwise, we'll transition to 'bigger fish to fry' 🐳. One of the reasons I rarely watch movies is that once I get the idea or figure out what's going to happen, I see it as a waste of time and go learn something else.
If it wasn't then why did you start it ?click to expand
I give it a chance just like people until you realize it's what you figured. A lot of things are formulaic even identities that people choose.
Posted by stillstillwater
cardinal = directing the flow
mutable = going with the flow
Cardinal can change direction of the flow as many times as they think is needed whereas mutable goes with the flow as many times as that flow changes.
So on the surface they appear the same but Cardinal energy is more about control than adaptation, although learning how to adapt would ease Cardinal's anxiety much more. It's a life lesson for Cardinals to learn when to control and when to adapt.
Cardinals are the most likely to try their best to mold situations to their liking... mutables don't really do that. Mutables go with it as long as it works for them and when it doesn't they just leave or adapt.
Best explanation by far! Thank you for this. Directing the flow does seem very one sided.
Posted by peachy06Posted by Nightcap-Posted by peachy06Posted by Nightcap-Posted by peachy06
They start things.
But never finish them.
🤷🏻♀️
Only if it's worthwhile, otherwise, we'll transition to 'bigger fish to fry' 🐳. One of the reasons I rarely watch movies is that once I get the idea or figure out what's going to happen, I see it as a waste of time and go learn something else.
If it wasn't then why did you start it ?
Give it a chance just like people until you realize it's what you figured. A lot of things are formulaic even identities that people choose.
No no no, not a chance. Because before starting something I make sure to know all the steps it'd take. I'd think a lot before diving into it. If I don't complete them I know I'll be very frustrated. I'd ruminate a lot, so I'll have to finish it.click to expand
Nothing wrong with a thorough, planned approach common to fixed signs. That'll eliminate most elementary mistakes and give it a good base. Past that point, the parameters and framework within which things are bound to change will determine whether it's worth finishing or not. I saw the first Saw movie and was like 'Ok, I get it.' I asked my brother 'how was Saw VI?'. He said it was better than Saw V. 🤨
Posted by CoffeeAndCream
I have Cancer sun and Jupiter mars, but most of my chart is FIXED
and im still a lazy bum
Prime time to claim those Leo parts in all it's glory!! Hahaha!
mutable is flexible/adaptable. fixed is stubborn, tunnel vision. cardinal is the middle ground, the facilitator.
To me, its about a cycle. Im a libra sun, mars and ascendants. Of course i have outer planets(jupiter Aries, Neptune cap)in cardinal signs and the nodes are on the aries libra axis. My moon venus mercury and Pluto are all fixed.
But to me Cardinal energy exhausts and regenerates. We either come back stronger or come back with the same energy. Or we come back using a different angle. The difference between us and mutuables is they kinda drift off when they feel like it. Cardinal energy just wont let go until we exhausted ourselves. Then we can move one. We dont have a problem starting anything. Or ending anything. Its that we expels our energy in places that do us no good. We are the ones who get frustrated faster because of the cycle we put ourselves in.
Fixed signs to me are more consistent but its takes them a long time to get to that point. Cardinal signs kinda reset. We either are focred to or choose to. We just spend too much energy on certain things and it can frustrate us.
But to me cardinal is about trying, exhausting, recharging and trying again.
But to me Cardinal energy exhausts and regenerates. We either come back stronger or come back with the same energy. Or we come back using a different angle. The difference between us and mutuables is they kinda drift off when they feel like it. Cardinal energy just wont let go until we exhausted ourselves. Then we can move one. We dont have a problem starting anything. Or ending anything. Its that we expels our energy in places that do us no good. We are the ones who get frustrated faster because of the cycle we put ourselves in.
Fixed signs to me are more consistent but its takes them a long time to get to that point. Cardinal signs kinda reset. We either are focred to or choose to. We just spend too much energy on certain things and it can frustrate us.
But to me cardinal is about trying, exhausting, recharging and trying again.
Posted by Libra4rmTX
To me, its about a cycle. Im a libra sun, mars and ascendants. Of course i have outer planets(jupiter Aries, Neptune cap)in cardinal signs and the nodes are on the aries libra axis. My moon venus mercury and Pluto are all fixed.
But to me Cardinal energy exhausts and regenerates. We either come back stronger or come back with the same energy. Or we come back using a different angle. The difference between us and mutuables is they kinda drift off when they feel like it. Cardinal energy just wont let go until we exhausted ourselves. Then we can move one. We dont have a problem starting anything. Or ending anything. Its that we expels our energy in places that do us no good. We are the ones who get frustrated faster because of the cycle we put ourselves in.
Fixed signs to me are more consistent but its takes them a long time to get to that point. Cardinal signs kinda reset. We either are focred to or choose to. We just spend too much energy on certain things and it can frustrate us.
But to me cardinal is about trying, exhausting, recharging and trying again.
"We either come back stronger or come back with the same energy."
I think this sums it up for me in a very neat bow. Cardinals never do more then what I do, as a mutable, it's always just the same energy. Guess I can't pull out the stronger energy from them. Which is why I asked the question. But reading what's been written has made things clearer.
Now that has me wondering what gets them motivated.
Thanks for the detailed description. I'm learning and it does make sense.
Posted by LiterallyStalinGPosted by saggurl88Posted by LiterallyStalinG
"I'm tired of your shit" Energy
Like that or like this? 😛
I don't masturbate in the shower.click to expand
LMAO.
Posted by GC11_
Cardinal signs lead the way
Mutable signs go along for the ride
Fixed go their own way
Posted by saggurl88Posted by Libra4rmTX
To me, its about a cycle. Im a libra sun, mars and ascendants. Of course i have outer planets(jupiter Aries, Neptune cap)in cardinal signs and the nodes are on the aries libra axis. My moon venus mercury and Pluto are all fixed.
But to me Cardinal energy exhausts and regenerates. We either come back stronger or come back with the same energy. Or we come back using a different angle. The difference between us and mutuables is they kinda drift off when they feel like it. Cardinal energy just wont let go until we exhausted ourselves. Then we can move one. We dont have a problem starting anything. Or ending anything. Its that we expels our energy in places that do us no good. We are the ones who get frustrated faster because of the cycle we put ourselves in.
Fixed signs to me are more consistent but its takes them a long time to get to that point. Cardinal signs kinda reset. We either are focred to or choose to. We just spend too much energy on certain things and it can frustrate us.
But to me cardinal is about trying, exhausting, recharging and trying again.
"We either come back stronger or come back with the same energy."
I think this sums it up for me in a very neat bow. Cardinals never do more then what I do, as a mutable, it's always just the same energy. Guess I can't pull out the stronger energy from them. Which is why I asked the question. But reading what's been written has made things clearer.
Now that has me wondering what gets them motivated.
Thanks for the detailed description. I'm learning and it does make sense.click to expand
I guess stronger was not a good word. I should have said more pronounced lol but mutable signs frustrate yet excited because just like yall, we hate being stagnant. Yall are extremely fluid and when we think we got y'all fogured out....poof lol so if we tone it down its purely out of frustration. And the motive changes trust me lol
Posted by Libra4rmTXPosted by saggurl88Posted by Libra4rmTX
To me, its about a cycle. Im a libra sun, mars and ascendants. Of course i have outer planets(jupiter Aries, Neptune cap)in cardinal signs and the nodes are on the aries libra axis. My moon venus mercury and Pluto are all fixed.
But to me Cardinal energy exhausts and regenerates. We either come back stronger or come back with the same energy. Or we come back using a different angle. The difference between us and mutuables is they kinda drift off when they feel like it. Cardinal energy just wont let go until we exhausted ourselves. Then we can move one. We dont have a problem starting anything. Or ending anything. Its that we expels our energy in places that do us no good. We are the ones who get frustrated faster because of the cycle we put ourselves in.
Fixed signs to me are more consistent but its takes them a long time to get to that point. Cardinal signs kinda reset. We either are focred to or choose to. We just spend too much energy on certain things and it can frustrate us.
But to me cardinal is about trying, exhausting, recharging and trying again.
"We either come back stronger or come back with the same energy."
I think this sums it up for me in a very neat bow. Cardinals never do more then what I do, as a mutable, it's always just the same energy. Guess I can't pull out the stronger energy from them. Which is why I asked the question. But reading what's been written has made things clearer.
Now that has me wondering what gets them motivated.
Thanks for the detailed description. I'm learning and it does make sense.
I guess stronger was not a good word. I should have said more pronounced lol but mutable signs frustrate yet excited because just like yall, we hate being stagnant. Yall are extremely fluid and when we think we got y'all fogured out....poof lol so if we tone it down its purely out of frustration. And the motive changes trust me lolclick to expand
GODDAM LIBRAS AND THEIR INDECISIVNESS!!!! 😜
Still, your description was great.
While we ebb and flow, you guys just keep switching up, trying to keep up. Is that what I'm reading? 😬
Posted by CoffeeAndCreamPosted by saggurl88Posted by Libra4rmTX
To me, its about a cycle. Im a libra sun, mars and ascendants. Of course i have outer planets(jupiter Aries, Neptune cap)in cardinal signs and the nodes are on the aries libra axis. My moon venus mercury and Pluto are all fixed.
But to me Cardinal energy exhausts and regenerates. We either come back stronger or come back with the same energy. Or we come back using a different angle. The difference between us and mutuables is they kinda drift off when they feel like it. Cardinal energy just wont let go until we exhausted ourselves. Then we can move one. We dont have a problem starting anything. Or ending anything. Its that we expels our energy in places that do us no good. We are the ones who get frustrated faster because of the cycle we put ourselves in.
Fixed signs to me are more consistent but its takes them a long time to get to that point. Cardinal signs kinda reset. We either are focred to or choose to. We just spend too much energy on certain things and it can frustrate us.
But to me cardinal is about trying, exhausting, recharging and trying again.
"We either come back stronger or come back with the same energy."
I think this sums it up for me in a very neat bow. Cardinals never do more then what I do, as a mutable, it's always just the same energy. Guess I can't pull out the stronger energy from them. Which is why I asked the question. But reading what's been written has made things clearer.
Now that has me wondering what gets them motivated.
Thanks for the detailed description. I'm learning and it does make sense.
You don't make SENSE, you have a CRAB MOON
lmaoclick to expand
I have a mutable Sag Stellium and am super laid back and chill. I wish could put my crappy ass moon to use in order for it to be effective. All it is good for is licking my own wounds and helping someone else heal from theirs, not much more then that. It's a basic ass, emotional moon, good for the caring only. I would love some depth to it.
Posted by saggurl88Posted by Libra4rmTXPosted by saggurl88Posted by Libra4rmTX
To me, its about a cycle. Im a libra sun, mars and ascendants. Of course i have outer planets(jupiter Aries, Neptune cap)in cardinal signs and the nodes are on the aries libra axis. My moon venus mercury and Pluto are all fixed.
But to me Cardinal energy exhausts and regenerates. We either come back stronger or come back with the same energy. Or we come back using a different angle. The difference between us and mutuables is they kinda drift off when they feel like it. Cardinal energy just wont let go until we exhausted ourselves. Then we can move one. We dont have a problem starting anything. Or ending anything. Its that we expels our energy in places that do us no good. We are the ones who get frustrated faster because of the cycle we put ourselves in.
Fixed signs to me are more consistent but its takes them a long time to get to that point. Cardinal signs kinda reset. We either are focred to or choose to. We just spend too much energy on certain things and it can frustrate us.
But to me cardinal is about trying, exhausting, recharging and trying again.
"We either come back stronger or come back with the same energy."
I think this sums it up for me in a very neat bow. Cardinals never do more then what I do, as a mutable, it's always just the same energy. Guess I can't pull out the stronger energy from them. Which is why I asked the question. But reading what's been written has made things clearer.
Now that has me wondering what gets them motivated.
Thanks for the detailed description. I'm learning and it does make sense.
I guess stronger was not a good word. I should have said more pronounced lol but mutable signs frustrate yet excited because just like yall, we hate being stagnant. Yall are extremely fluid and when we think we got y'all fogured out....poof lol so if we tone it down its purely out of frustration. And the motive changes trust me lol
GODDAM LIBRAS AND THEIR INDECISIVNESS!!!! 😜
Still, your description was great.
While we ebb and flow, you guys just keep switching up, trying to keep up. Is that what I'm reading? 😬click to expand
More or less lol we dont realize that its us setting the tone for this we just react.
Posted by Libra4rmTXPosted by saggurl88Posted by Libra4rmTXPosted by saggurl88Posted by Libra4rmTX
To me, its about a cycle. Im a libra sun, mars and ascendants. Of course i have outer planets(jupiter Aries, Neptune cap)in cardinal signs and the nodes are on the aries libra axis. My moon venus mercury and Pluto are all fixed.
But to me Cardinal energy exhausts and regenerates. We either come back stronger or come back with the same energy. Or we come back using a different angle. The difference between us and mutuables is they kinda drift off when they feel like it. Cardinal energy just wont let go until we exhausted ourselves. Then we can move one. We dont have a problem starting anything. Or ending anything. Its that we expels our energy in places that do us no good. We are the ones who get frustrated faster because of the cycle we put ourselves in.
Fixed signs to me are more consistent but its takes them a long time to get to that point. Cardinal signs kinda reset. We either are focred to or choose to. We just spend too much energy on certain things and it can frustrate us.
But to me cardinal is about trying, exhausting, recharging and trying again.
"We either come back stronger or come back with the same energy."
I think this sums it up for me in a very neat bow. Cardinals never do more then what I do, as a mutable, it's always just the same energy. Guess I can't pull out the stronger energy from them. Which is why I asked the question. But reading what's been written has made things clearer.
Now that has me wondering what gets them motivated.
Thanks for the detailed description. I'm learning and it does make sense.
I guess stronger was not a good word. I should have said more pronounced lol but mutable signs frustrate yet excited because just like yall, we hate being stagnant. Yall are extremely fluid and when we think we got y'all fogured out....poof lol so if we tone it down its purely out of frustration. And the motive changes trust me lol
GODDAM LIBRAS AND THEIR INDECISIVNESS!!!! 😜
Still, your description was great.
While we ebb and flow, you guys just keep switching up, trying to keep up. Is that what I'm reading? 😬
More or less lol we dont realize that its us setting the tone for this we just react.click to expand
🙂 Guess that why both need stability in other signs.
Cardinal energy:
If you ain't first you're last "Ricky Bobby"
Posted by CoffeeAndCream
@saggurl88
Now that has me wondering what gets them motivated.
We will do anything EVEN travel not because we want to observe new cultures, but to feel inspired to do what we need to do whilst here on EARTH as simple as Champs said "based on an end goal."
Simply what gets us motivated is our need for fulfillment not in the grounded sense, but more in wanted goals being met. Cardinal not getting things done is a cardinal in trouble and feeling drowned.
That's you see so many bitter caps and crabs around
If we don't get what we want, its an absolute mess, we will take out on people around us.
Now this could be my 10th house speaking since half my chart is in the 10th house so to me i feel miserable if i aint doing something - learning something- etc etc
Wow! This is great. Thanks for this.
Seems like someone always running for the next best thing.
Can’t say I thought about cardinal energy in this sense either. 🤔
Posted by Nightcap-Posted by peachy06Posted by Nightcap-Posted by peachy06
They start things.
But never finish them.
🤷🏻♀️
Only if it's worthwhile, otherwise, we'll transition to 'bigger fish to fry' 🐳. One of the reasons I rarely watch movies is that once I get the idea or figure out what's going to happen, I see it as a waste of time and go learn something else.
If it wasn't then why did you start it ?
I give it a chance just like people until you realize it's what you figured. A lot of things are formulaic even identities that people choose.click to expand
but that's the fun of it, you can change and tweak the formula to your taste
Posted by CoffeeAndCreamPosted by saggurl88Posted by CoffeeAndCream
@saggurl88
Now that has me wondering what gets them motivated.
We will do anything EVEN travel not because we want to observe new cultures, but to feel inspired to do what we need to do whilst here on EARTH as simple as Champs said "based on an end goal."
Simply what gets us motivated is our need for fulfillment not in the grounded sense, but more in wanted goals being met. Cardinal not getting things done is a cardinal in trouble and feeling drowned.
That's you see so many bitter caps and crabs around
If we don't get what we want, its an absolute mess, we will take out on people around us.
Now this could be my 10th house speaking since half my chart is in the 10th house so to me i feel miserable if i aint doing something - learning something- etc etc
Wow! This is great. Thanks for this.
Seems like someone always running for the next best thing.
Can’t say I thought about cardinal energy in this sense either. 🤔
yeah i take classes just cause, i will pick up an art class or a guitar class, not because i am trying to be good at it, but because at that time i wanted to learn it
i even took cooking classes at one point (i know shocking)click to expand
Oh ok. Nice.
Cardinal sets the goals
Mutables adapt or goes long with all the little nuances to reach the goal.
Fixed sees it to the end or finalizes it
Sounded good 🤷🏼♀️
Mutables adapt or goes long with all the little nuances to reach the goal.
Fixed sees it to the end or finalizes it
Sounded good 🤷🏼♀️
I suppose that Cardinal Energy aims for capturing key positions--here and there. Also Cardinal signs take initiative.
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If they include interstate travel and/or gathering with your large extended family.. Why are you an idiot?
They say its an energy that goes after something, but I think of it more as just a quick start to something, there is just as much inconsistent energy as mutables have. I think Fixed signs are the most consistent. I don't see a clear distinction between mutable and cardinal.
For someone with a Cardinal Sun sign is there much of a difference? What do you think?