sweethearts
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Are you taking them jab?
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Are you getting it sweethearts?
It’s not been approved here yet....
It’s not been approved here yet....
Yes.
I work in healthcare.
I'm not stupid.
I work in healthcare.
I'm not stupid.
Posted by MyStarsShine
Are you getting it sweethearts?
It’s not been approved here yet....
Eventually when it’s proven to be successful and our government decides to bring it through for us. NZ is also taking there time to see how things pan out. Fortunately we have time on our hands. You @mystarshine? Are you in WA?
Posted by CoffeeAndCream
10th thread on the subject
I don’t live here like some so haven’t noticed.
You don’t have to answer but I am curious as it’s been on the news this morning that Americans are gearing up for it. So far in England, things are fine.
Posted by sweetheartsPosted by MyStarsShine
Are you getting it sweethearts?
It’s not been approved here yet....
Eventually when it’s proven to be successful and our government decides to bring it through for us. NZ is also taking there time to see how things pan out. Fortunately we have time on our hands. You @mystarshine? Are you in WA?click to expand
Oh right. I’m in Ireland and i wouldn’t think
about getting it till sufficient proof of its safety has been proved and found out what’s actually in it. Even then I’m doubtful... the last jab I got made me very sick.
Posted by CoffeeAndCreamPosted by sweetheartsPosted by CoffeeAndCream
10th thread on the subject
I don’t live here like some so haven’t noticed.
You don’t have to answer but I am curious as it’s been on the news this morning that Americans are gearing up for it. So far in England, things are fine.
Theyre' gonna have to force me, i aint taking shit for another yearclick to expand
Wise decision...
Yes because I want to start traveling again asap
But I will also still be wearing my masks and gloves and touching common areas only with napkins until infection rates heavily decline overall
But I will also still be wearing my masks and gloves and touching common areas only with napkins until infection rates heavily decline overall
Yes. I’d feel safer with it. For my family’s sake too.
Yes. I’d feel safer with it. For my family’s sake too.
I don't know. I don't know what kind of impact that's gonna have.
I just wonder if people still gone buy that stuff that never got tested or was always negative.
I just wonder if people still gone buy that stuff that never got tested or was always negative.
I personally won't, simply because I don't have to. If I did have to I would though. I don't get the flu vaccination either. Not because I don't believe in it, but I firmly believe I'm healthy and don't need it. I don't get those types of of illness. I don't want to take advantage of something I will never need when thousands of people around the world truly do need it. I feel like I would be wasting resources.
Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter
I don't know. I don't know what kind of impact that's gonna have.
I just wonder if people still gone buy that stuff that never got tested or was always negative.
As LiterallyStalinG’s post stated:
“Anyone having the vaccine once it is rolled out in December WILL be part of a wider ongoing experiment”
Posted by SassyKiwi
Yes because I want to start traveling again asap
But I will also still be wearing my masks and gloves and touching common areas only with napkins until infection rates heavily decline overall
That’s how I feel, I want travel back on the cards but I do feel that’s going to be not until end of next year at best!
Plus, I have an elderly mother who I spend time with a couple times a week and a nephew who already has silicosis. If they contract it, they’ll die for sure!
Posted by LiterallyStalinG
I refuse to be a guinea pig for a novel vaccine.
Peer reviewed article from the British Medical Journal states that this is Russian Roulette just governments and global corporate entities have always done.
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037
“Russian Roulette” is exactly the words I’ve been using..
Posted by Soul
I personally won't, simply because I don't have to. If I did have to I would though. I don't get the flu vaccination either. Not because I don't believe in it, but I firmly believe I'm healthy and don't need it. I don't get those types of of illness. I don't want to take advantage of something I will never need when thousands of people around the world truly do need it. I feel like I would be wasting resources.
This is what I previously believed with vaccinations however with this pandemic I’ve had a mind shift and it’s not about me, it’s about others around me. I do believe that if I contracted the virus I’d come through it without a problem however the people I could potentially infect without knowing could be devastating, particularly in my own family. That and the fact that I don’t feel the vaccination would have any worse effect than contracting the virus itself.
Posted by LiterallyStalinGPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by LiterallyStalinG
I refuse to be a guinea pig for a novel vaccine.
Peer reviewed article from the British Medical Journal states that this is Russian Roulette just governments and global corporate entities have always done.
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037
“Russian Roulette” is exactly the words I’ve been using..
I'm tired of brain dead zombies telling me what to do. They have Stockholm syndrome. I swear to god.click to expand
I’m just not happy with being a guinea pig. There’s no way i’m prepared to be jabbed with something that could be potentially harmful. I’m still trying to find out what’s in it.....
Posted by sweetheartsPosted by Soul
I personally won't, simply because I don't have to. If I did have to I would though. I don't get the flu vaccination either. Not because I don't believe in it, but I firmly believe I'm healthy and don't need it. I don't get those types of of illness. I don't want to take advantage of something I will never need when thousands of people around the world truly do need it. I feel like I would be wasting resources.
This is what I previously believed with vaccinations however with this pandemic I’ve had a mind shift and it’s not about me, it’s about others around me. I do believe that if I contracted the virus I’d come through it without a problem however the people I could potentially infect without knowing could be devastating, particularly in my own family. That and the fact that I don’t feel the vaccination would have any worse effect than contracting the virus itself.click to expand
There is also idea that maybe its best if things just go the way they are going currently. Most people will never see it like that, because naturally humans are selfish on both spectrums. People can't fully grasp how putting their own lives and selfishness aside is better for the survival of humanity as a whole. Most can't think deeper then either mass amounts of people surviving, or mass amounts of people dying. Imo that just makes room for new life. You, I, and our families lives at stake included.
I don't fully agree with my own statement also, but there are millions who honestly do.
Most of you are a dying breed.
Yes, because I want this pandemic to be over.
Even if I don’t feel in great danger personally, I owe it to people I care about, who may die of COVID....if not this year, maybe next one, or the next after...
Is the smallest thing one can do, and I would be ashamed of myself not to do it!
Even if I don’t feel in great danger personally, I owe it to people I care about, who may die of COVID....if not this year, maybe next one, or the next after...
Is the smallest thing one can do, and I would be ashamed of myself not to do it!
There are three different vaccines approved, by the way. More to come. The ingredients aka the adjuvants are those responsible for extremely rare reactions. The adjuvants are the same as in the vaccines that have been given to babies, medical personnel and old people since years. The same as in the vaccine you have had already.
If you are afraid of the best, take the second best.
If you are afraid of the new, take the old. There are “old fashion” virus based vaccines to be approved and made available. Oxford vaccine is one of them.
Just don’t be selfish.
If you are afraid of the new, take the old. There are “old fashion” virus based vaccines to be approved and made available. Oxford vaccine is one of them.
Just don’t be selfish.
Posted by GenXgem
The only time I took vaccines were those mandatory ones when I was not old enough to decide. Never had a flu shot and wouldn’t like cov-shot unless forced to do so.
I’ve got a feeling they will make it mandatory at some point though. You might not be able to travel, to work, to study and maybe even shop without it.
Yes think they will make it mandatory to travel, there are countries that you need to take certain jabs to get in already for yellow fever and malaria and covid will almost certainly be a requirement in Aus and NZ because of our low infection numbers once one is in circulation here.
Dr Hilary said: "No. It does not stop her getting it necessarily and it does not stop her transmitting it.
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https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.birminghaammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/dr-hilary-shares-coronavirus-vaccine-19417532.amp
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https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.birminghaammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/dr-hilary-shares-coronavirus-vaccine-19417532.amp
Posted by MyStarsShine
Dr Hilary said: "No. It does not stop her getting it necessarily and it does not stop her transmitting it.
🥴
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.birminghaammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/dr-hilary-shares-coronavirus-vaccine-19417532.amp
95% efficacy rate.. and we don't know if it stops transmission or not YET.
Posted by peachy06
Those who'll sacrifice first, let us know what side effects you may encounter.
For Science purpose only 😄
As CC said wait a year to see how many people die 😬
Posted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by peachy06
Those who'll sacrifice first, let us know what side effects you may encounter.
For Science purpose only 😄
As CC said wait a year to see how many people die 😬
We have waited almost a year and the virus has killed over 300,000 of us in the US so far.
We also have loads of people suffering from mental anguish and hopelessness. Millions of jobs lost. Families that haven't seen each other since the start of this and exhausted healthcare workers with no end in sight.
.....and that ^^^ is with mask mandates and social distancing (unfortunately, people don't follow directions)
I will take my chances with a vaccine.click to expand
She doesn't think masks work.
Posted by peachy06Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by peachy06
Those who'll sacrifice first, let us know what side effects you may encounter.
For Science purpose only 😄
As CC said wait a year to see how many people die 😬
Better. I'll wait 10 years.click to expand
The mumps vaccine took 4 years to develop and that was considered a short amount of time..
Posted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by peachy06
Those who'll sacrifice first, let us know what side effects you may encounter.
For Science purpose only 😄
As CC said wait a year to see how many people die 😬
We have waited almost a year and the virus has killed over 300,000 of us in the US so far.
We also have loads of people suffering from mental anguish and hopelessness. Millions of jobs lost. Families that haven't seen each other since the start of this and exhausted healthcare workers with no end in sight.
.....and that ^^^ is with mask mandates and social distancing (unfortunately, people don't follow directions)
I will take my chances with a vaccine.click to expand
Will you still keep wearing a face covering and sanitizing and social distancing after you get the jab Elle? Everyone here wears masks but I’m wondering whether after the jab people will become relaxed which would defeat the object as there’s no confirmation that transmitting it to others is ruled out?
Posted by peachy06Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by peachy06Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by peachy06
Those who'll sacrifice first, let us know what side effects you may encounter.
For Science purpose only 😄
As CC said wait a year to see how many people die 😬
Better. I'll wait 10 years.
The mumps vaccine took 4 years to develop and that was considered a short amount of time..
Many vaccines took years to be developped, which is why I don't believe in a new illness whom we barely know anything, getting a vaccine in 6 months. It doesn't make any sense at all.click to expand
Exactly..
Posted by peachy06Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by peachy06Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by peachy06
Those who'll sacrifice first, let us know what side effects you may encounter.
For Science purpose only 😄
As CC said wait a year to see how many people die 😬
Better. I'll wait 10 years.
The mumps vaccine took 4 years to develop and that was considered a short amount of time..
Many vaccines took years to be developped, which is why I don't believe in a new illness whom we barely know anything, getting a vaccine in 6 months. It doesn't make any sense at all.click to expand
mRNA vaccines have been in the works for almost a decade, so when COVID came along.. it was simply a matter of sequencing the virus genome so that they knew what mRNA structure they needed to build to attack it. The vaccine was literally made within days of sequencing, because we already had the technology to do so. The vaccine has been in trial for almost a year now.
Posted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by peachy06
Those who'll sacrifice first, let us know what side effects you may encounter.
For Science purpose only 😄
As CC said wait a year to see how many people die 😬
We have waited almost a year and the virus has killed over 300,000 of us in the US so far.
We also have loads of people suffering from mental anguish and hopelessness. Millions of jobs lost. Families that haven't seen each other since the start of this and exhausted healthcare workers with no end in sight.
.....and that ^^^ is with mask mandates and social distancing (unfortunately, people don't follow directions)
I will take my chances with a vaccine.
Will you still keep wearing a face covering and sanitizing and social distancing after you get the jab Elle? Everyone here wears masks but I’m wondering whether after the jab people will become relaxed which would defeat the object as there’s no confirmation that transmitting it to others is ruled out?
Yes, of course. It will be at least two years before the masks come off in public. We don't have enough doses of the vaccine right now, it will probably be late summer to early fall before I see one.click to expand
Okay
Does that mean you won’t be able to travel till then?
Posted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by peachy06
Those who'll sacrifice first, let us know what side effects you may encounter.
For Science purpose only 😄
As CC said wait a year to see how many people die 😬
We have waited almost a year and the virus has killed over 300,000 of us in the US so far.
We also have loads of people suffering from mental anguish and hopelessness. Millions of jobs lost. Families that haven't seen each other since the start of this and exhausted healthcare workers with no end in sight.
.....and that ^^^ is with mask mandates and social distancing (unfortunately, people don't follow directions)
I will take my chances with a vaccine.
Will you still keep wearing a face covering and sanitizing and social distancing after you get the jab Elle? Everyone here wears masks but I’m wondering whether after the jab people will become relaxed which would defeat the object as there’s no confirmation that transmitting it to others is ruled out?
Yes, of course. It will be at least two years before the masks come off in public. We don't have enough doses of the vaccine right now, it will probably be late summer to early fall before I see one.
Okay
Does that mean you won’t be able to travel till then?
Yes 😭😭😭😭click to expand
Aaaahhh no....your family 😔😢💙
What about work? Will you be able to keep your job? Isn’t travel a large part of it?
It's amazing what you can learn with just a tad bit of research..
Sooooooo strange...
Posted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by peachy06
Those who'll sacrifice first, let us know what side effects you may encounter.
For Science purpose only 😄
As CC said wait a year to see how many people die 😬
We have waited almost a year and the virus has killed over 300,000 of us in the US so far.
We also have loads of people suffering from mental anguish and hopelessness. Millions of jobs lost. Families that haven't seen each other since the start of this and exhausted healthcare workers with no end in sight.
.....and that ^^^ is with mask mandates and social distancing (unfortunately, people don't follow directions)
I will take my chances with a vaccine.
Will you still keep wearing a face covering and sanitizing and social distancing after you get the jab Elle? Everyone here wears masks but I’m wondering whether after the jab people will become relaxed which would defeat the object as there’s no confirmation that transmitting it to others is ruled out?
Yes, of course. It will be at least two years before the masks come off in public. We don't have enough doses of the vaccine right now, it will probably be late summer to early fall before I see one.
Okay
Does that mean you won’t be able to travel till then?
Yes 😭😭😭😭
Aaaahhh no....your family 😔😢💙
What about work? Will you be able to keep your job? Isn’t travel a large part of it?
I can still travel safely to see family. I did that in Spetember and we were very safe. I tested and quarantined after I arrived. I would not leave the country though and that is what pains me the most.
I work for myself so I can require remote only. I would prefer to travel to be onsite but it isn't safe and I would question the integrity of the company that would insist that I'm onsite during all of this.click to expand
That’s good about your family ... will you
be spending Christmas with them?
Yes it’s very restricting for international travel.
Posted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by peachy06
Those who'll sacrifice first, let us know what side effects you may encounter.
For Science purpose only 😄
As CC said wait a year to see how many people die 😬
We have waited almost a year and the virus has killed over 300,000 of us in the US so far.
We also have loads of people suffering from mental anguish and hopelessness. Millions of jobs lost. Families that haven't seen each other since the start of this and exhausted healthcare workers with no end in sight.
.....and that ^^^ is with mask mandates and social distancing (unfortunately, people don't follow directions)
I will take my chances with a vaccine.
Will you still keep wearing a face covering and sanitizing and social distancing after you get the jab Elle? Everyone here wears masks but I’m wondering whether after the jab people will become relaxed which would defeat the object as there’s no confirmation that transmitting it to others is ruled out?
Yes, of course. It will be at least two years before the masks come off in public. We don't have enough doses of the vaccine right now, it will probably be late summer to early fall before I see one.
Okay
Does that mean you won’t be able to travel till then?
Yes 😭😭😭😭
Aaaahhh no....your family 😔😢💙
What about work? Will you be able to keep your job? Isn’t travel a large part of it?
I can still travel safely to see family. I did that in Spetember and we were very safe. I tested and quarantined after I arrived. I would not leave the country though and that is what pains me the most.
I work for myself so I can require remote only. I would prefer to travel to be onsite but it isn't safe and I would question the integrity of the company that would insist that I'm onsite during all of this.
That’s good about your family ... will you
be spending Christmas with them?
Yes it’s very restricting for international travel.
No, I spent seven weeks with them in Aug-Sep. We didn't know how bad this was going to get so we celebrated early just in case. I'm glad I did because I would not feel comfortable travelling right now.click to expand
That’s good you had time with them 👍
Posted by CreamyPVPosted by sweethearts
Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.click to expand
Why not Creamy?
Posted by CreamyPVPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by sweethearts
Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.
Why not Creamy?
For the reasons you and Peachy06 listed. It was done too fast and its too new. I get they have been working on rna vaccines for years, but I don't trust it. This shit could be AZT 2.0. May do more harm than good.click to expand
Are you worried about the time it took to put the vaccine together? Or the length of the trial study?
Posted by CreamyPVPosted by _DazedPosted by CreamyPVPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by sweethearts
Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.
Why not Creamy?
For the reasons you and Peachy06 listed. It was done too fast and its too new. I get they have been working on rna vaccines for years, but I don't trust it. This shit could be AZT 2.0. May do more harm than good.
Are you worried about the time it took to put the vaccine together? Or the length of the trial study?
A bit of both, but mostly the length of time in testing. Now I know they were working on a vaccine for SARS already so it shortened the time foe making similar vaccines like the COVID vaccine. But what concerns me is the speed at which it is getting approved. The vaccines still have side effects but they are so desperate they are just pushing it through. It just feels like the same thing they did with AZT and years later they realized the drug was worst than the virus.click to expand
The side effects have been comparable to those seen in the placebo group and in the population in general.
Can I ask where you are getting information on the vaccine study outcomes?
Posted by CreamyPVPosted by _DazedPosted by CreamyPVPosted by _DazedPosted by CreamyPVPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by sweethearts
Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.
Why not Creamy?
For the reasons you and Peachy06 listed. It was done too fast and its too new. I get they have been working on rna vaccines for years, but I don't trust it. This shit could be AZT 2.0. May do more harm than good.
Are you worried about the time it took to put the vaccine together? Or the length of the trial study?
A bit of both, but mostly the length of time in testing. Now I know they were working on a vaccine for SARS already so it shortened the time foe making similar vaccines like the COVID vaccine. But what concerns me is the speed at which it is getting approved. The vaccines still have side effects but they are so desperate they are just pushing it through. It just feels like the same thing they did with AZT and years later they realized the drug was worst than the virus.
The side effects have been comparable to those seen in the placebo group and in the population in general.
Can I ask where you are getting information on the vaccine study outcomes?
A friend of a friend works in DC and warned us not to take it right away. As far as the side effects, just what I hear in the media. I'm naturally suspicious of vaccines though.click to expand
Have you watched the FDA meeting covering the results of the study?
Posted by CreamyPVPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by sweethearts
Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.
Why not Creamy?
For the reasons you and Peachy06 listed. It was done too fast and its too new. I get they have been working on rna vaccines for years, but I don't trust it. This shit could be AZT 2.0. May do more harm than good.click to expand
Yes
Go with the gut....never wrong
My intuition is screaming a big “NO”
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by sweethearts
Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.
Why not Creamy?
For the reasons you and Peachy06 listed. It was done too fast and its too new. I get they have been working on rna vaccines for years, but I don't trust it. This shit could be AZT 2.0. May do more harm than good.
Yes
Go with the gut....never wrong
My intuition is screaming a big “NO”click to expand
Have you watched the FDA meeting covering the results of the study?
Posted by GenXgemPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by sweethearts
Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.
Why not Creamy?
For the reasons you and Peachy06 listed. It was done too fast and its too new. I get they have been working on rna vaccines for years, but I don't trust it. This shit could be AZT 2.0. May do more harm than good.
Yes
Go with the gut....never wrong
My intuition is screaming a big “NO”
Same here. Something is very fishy, lots of Neptune deceiving influence too. My inner guidance tells me no.
I don’t trust FDA. Remember when ranitidine was safe antacid and people got cancer years later?click to expand
I wouldn’t trust them either....why would you? Even my own doc when I pushed her a bit told me the doctors are paid commission for prescription. Big business!
Posted by GenXgemPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by sweethearts
Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.
Why not Creamy?
For the reasons you and Peachy06 listed. It was done too fast and its too new. I get they have been working on rna vaccines for years, but I don't trust it. This shit could be AZT 2.0. May do more harm than good.
Yes
Go with the gut....never wrong
My intuition is screaming a big “NO”
Same here. Something is very fishy, lots of Neptune deceiving influence too. My inner guidance tells me no.
I don’t trust FDA. Remember when ranitidine was safe antacid and people got cancer years later?click to expand
Ummm yeah. NDMA is a probable carcinogen that was found in ranitidine. It's also found in water and foods, including dairy products, vegetables, and grilled meats. Neither the FDA nor Novartis/Sandoz or Apotex have received any reports of adverse events related to NDMA found in ranitidine. It's also important to take into account that upwards of 75-80% of those that were taking the medication were also smokers, obese, or used alcohol regularly.. all linked to cancer.
Posted by GenXgemPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by GenXgemPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by sweethearts
Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.
Why not Creamy?
For the reasons you and Peachy06 listed. It was done too fast and its too new. I get they have been working on rna vaccines for years, but I don't trust it. This shit could be AZT 2.0. May do more harm than good.
Yes
Go with the gut....never wrong
My intuition is screaming a big “NO”
Same here. Something is very fishy, lots of Neptune deceiving influence too. My inner guidance tells me no.
I don’t trust FDA. Remember when ranitidine was safe antacid and people got cancer years later?
I wouldn’t trust them either....why would you? Even my own doc when I pushed her a bit told me the doctors are paid commission for prescription. Big business!
Pharmaceuticals and health care in America is a big business indeed. Not sure how it is abroad but many people here receive awful health care and someone makes lots of money off of it. I think this vaccine will make someone lots of money too.click to expand
Of course it will .... big profits!
Guys, none of you will have access to a vaccine any time soon, since it will take months to become available to your age group.
A vaccine is not a new invention. Scientists are not reinventing the wheel, just changing the pattern of the tire 🙂
Besides, mRNA is not a drug, like the antiviral mentioned by PVcream. It is not new either. RNA and mRNA are billions of years old, they even pre-dated DNA. They have a short life, and scientists have spent over a decade learning how to make them suitable for a vaccine. They are the future of vaccination.
The mRNA from the vaccine is very much like any of the 360 000 molecules of mRNA that any of us have in every single cell. What is different between mRNAs, is the order of its building blocks, like the letters on a page are different from those on the next page. Our body does not recognise the vaccine mRNA as different.
Once the scientists learned the letters by sequencing the coronavirus, it’s easy to design mRNAs. Graduate students can do it in minutes on a smart phone! It is all about the viral protein that this mRNA helps to produce inside the cell. This protein will be expressed at the surface of the cell, in the same way coronavirus proteins are expressed on your cells if you have COVID. They train your immune system to recognise this protein, so they could recognise and attack the coronavirus, when you get infected.
There are other type of coronavirus vaccine as well. Oxford vaccine uses a virus originally extracted from monkey poo, who was genetically engineered to produce the same protein encoded by the mRNA we talked about. Feel free to ask for this one, it is more old fashioned than Moderna’s or Pfeizer’s.
A vaccine is not a new invention. Scientists are not reinventing the wheel, just changing the pattern of the tire 🙂
Besides, mRNA is not a drug, like the antiviral mentioned by PVcream. It is not new either. RNA and mRNA are billions of years old, they even pre-dated DNA. They have a short life, and scientists have spent over a decade learning how to make them suitable for a vaccine. They are the future of vaccination.
The mRNA from the vaccine is very much like any of the 360 000 molecules of mRNA that any of us have in every single cell. What is different between mRNAs, is the order of its building blocks, like the letters on a page are different from those on the next page. Our body does not recognise the vaccine mRNA as different.
Once the scientists learned the letters by sequencing the coronavirus, it’s easy to design mRNAs. Graduate students can do it in minutes on a smart phone! It is all about the viral protein that this mRNA helps to produce inside the cell. This protein will be expressed at the surface of the cell, in the same way coronavirus proteins are expressed on your cells if you have COVID. They train your immune system to recognise this protein, so they could recognise and attack the coronavirus, when you get infected.
There are other type of coronavirus vaccine as well. Oxford vaccine uses a virus originally extracted from monkey poo, who was genetically engineered to produce the same protein encoded by the mRNA we talked about. Feel free to ask for this one, it is more old fashioned than Moderna’s or Pfeizer’s.
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Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.
Why not Creamy?
For the reasons you and Peachy06 listed. It was done too fast and its too new. I get they have been working on rna vaccines for years, but I don't trust it. This shit could be AZT 2.0. May do more harm than good.
Yes
Go with the gut....never wrong
My intuition is screaming a big “NO”
Same here. Something is very fishy, lots of Neptune deceiving influence too. My inner guidance tells me no.
I don’t trust FDA. Remember when ranitidine was safe antacid and people got cancer years later?
Ummm yeah. NDMA is a probable carcinogen that was found in ranitidine. It's also found in water and foods, including dairy products, vegetables, and grilled meats. Neither the FDA nor Novartis/Sandoz or Apotex have received any reports of adverse events related to NDMA found in ranitidine. It's also important to take into account that upwards of 75-80% of those that were taking the medication were also smokers, obese, or used alcohol regularly.. all linked to cancer.
75-80% Covid patients have co-morbidity that could be linked to other factors other than a virus. Those of us who are healthy enough don’t need a vaccine just like we don’t take it for common cold and other coronaviruses.click to expand
You're at risk being old, a drinker, and a smoker.
Posted by GenXgemPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by GenXgemPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by GenXgemPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by sweethearts
Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.
Why not Creamy?
For the reasons you and Peachy06 listed. It was done too fast and its too new. I get they have been working on rna vaccines for years, but I don't trust it. This shit could be AZT 2.0. May do more harm than good.
Yes
Go with the gut....never wrong
My intuition is screaming a big “NO”
Same here. Something is very fishy, lots of Neptune deceiving influence too. My inner guidance tells me no.
I don’t trust FDA. Remember when ranitidine was safe antacid and people got cancer years later?
I wouldn’t trust them either....why would you? Even my own doc when I pushed her a bit told me the doctors are paid commission for prescription. Big business!
Pharmaceuticals and health care in America is a big business indeed. Not sure how it is abroad but many people here receive awful health care and someone makes lots of money off of it. I think this vaccine will make someone lots of money too.
Of course it will .... big profits!
If they are that worried about humanity, they should not make any money off of it.click to expand
Pfizer-BioNTech isn't making money off of this.
Posted by GenXgemPosted by _DazedPosted by GenXgemPosted by _DazedPosted by GenXgemPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by sweethearts
Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.
Why not Creamy?
For the reasons you and Peachy06 listed. It was done too fast and its too new. I get they have been working on rna vaccines for years, but I don't trust it. This shit could be AZT 2.0. May do more harm than good.
Yes
Go with the gut....never wrong
My intuition is screaming a big “NO”
Same here. Something is very fishy, lots of Neptune deceiving influence too. My inner guidance tells me no.
I don’t trust FDA. Remember when ranitidine was safe antacid and people got cancer years later?
Ummm yeah. NDMA is a probable carcinogen that was found in ranitidine. It's also found in water and foods, including dairy products, vegetables, and grilled meats. Neither the FDA nor Novartis/Sandoz or Apotex have received any reports of adverse events related to NDMA found in ranitidine. It's also important to take into account that upwards of 75-80% of those that were taking the medication were also smokers, obese, or used alcohol regularly.. all linked to cancer.
75-80% Covid patients have co-morbidity that could be linked to other factors other than a virus. Those of us who are healthy enough don’t need a vaccine just like we don’t take it for common cold and other coronaviruses.
You're at risk being old, a drinker, and a smoker.
Not a drinker (as defined by having 3 drinks every night), I drink on occasion and mostly red wine, I smoke once/twice a year for my birthday and New Year’s Eve and not in age group at risk for Covid -19. Your argument is not scientific.
I’m sorry that you have to take vaccine in order to stay employed. That must suck :/
I hope you don’t develop any serious complications, years down the road.click to expand
You're in your 40's. 18-64 is the greatest at risk age group for getting the virus.
Also.. I don't have to take the vaccine. It is not mandatory.
Posted by GenXgemPosted by _DazedPosted by GenXgemPosted by _DazedPosted by GenXgemPosted by _DazedPosted by GenXgemPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by sweethearts
Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.
Why not Creamy?
For the reasons you and Peachy06 listed. It was done too fast and its too new. I get they have been working on rna vaccines for years, but I don't trust it. This shit could be AZT 2.0. May do more harm than good.
Yes
Go with the gut....never wrong
My intuition is screaming a big “NO”
Same here. Something is very fishy, lots of Neptune deceiving influence too. My inner guidance tells me no.
I don’t trust FDA. Remember when ranitidine was safe antacid and people got cancer years later?
Ummm yeah. NDMA is a probable carcinogen that was found in ranitidine. It's also found in water and foods, including dairy products, vegetables, and grilled meats. Neither the FDA nor Novartis/Sandoz or Apotex have received any reports of adverse events related to NDMA found in ranitidine. It's also important to take into account that upwards of 75-80% of those that were taking the medication were also smokers, obese, or used alcohol regularly.. all linked to cancer.
75-80% Covid patients have co-morbidity that could be linked to other factors other than a virus. Those of us who are healthy enough don’t need a vaccine just like we don’t take it for common cold and other coronaviruses.
You're at risk being old, a drinker, and a smoker.
Not a drinker (as defined by having 3 drinks every night), I drink on occasion and mostly red wine, I smoke once/twice a year for my birthday and New Year’s Eve and not in age group at risk for Covid -19. Your argument is not scientific.
I’m sorry that you have to take vaccine in order to stay employed. That must suck :/
I hope you don’t develop any serious complications, years down the road.
You're in your 40's. 18-64 is the greatest at risk age group for getting the virus.
Also.. I don't have to take the vaccine. It is not mandatory.
Greatest for getting the virus, not greatest to die of it.
You said you were getting the vaccine next week? Lol, don’t make me dig your posts 😂
How will hospital do it’s part to decrease the outbreak and promote vaccine awareness if they can’t even vaccinate their own employees?click to expand
We ARE getting it. We DON'T have to take it.
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