
Dazed
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Posted by HypnotoadPosted by sweetheartsPosted by MyStarsShine
Are you getting it sweethearts?
It’s not been approved here yet....
Eventually when it’s proven to be successful and our government decides to bring it through for us. NZ is also taking there time to see how things pan out. Fortunately we have time on our hands. You @mystarshine? Are you in WA?
Are you like me? Pissed off that we even have to because we don't need to.click to expand

Posted by GenXgemPosted by _DazedPosted by GenXgemPosted by _DazedPosted by GenXgemPosted by _DazedPosted by GenXgemPosted by _DazedPosted by GenXgemPosted by _DazedPosted by GenXgemPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by sweethearts
Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.
Why not Creamy?
For the reasons you and Peachy06 listed. It was done too fast and its too new. I get they have been working on rna vaccines for years, but I don't trust it. This shit could be AZT 2.0. May do more harm than good.
Yes
Go with the gut....never wrong
My intuition is screaming a big “NO”
Same here. Something is very fishy, lots of Neptune deceiving influence too. My inner guidance tells me no.
I don’t trust FDA. Remember when ranitidine was safe antacid and people got cancer years later?
Ummm yeah. NDMA is a probable carcinogen that was found in ranitidine. It's also found in water and foods, including dairy products, vegetables, and grilled meats. Neither the FDA nor Novartis/Sandoz or Apotex have received any reports of adverse events related to NDMA found in ranitidine. It's also important to take into account that upwards of 75-80% of those that were taking the medication were also smokers, obese, or used alcohol regularly.. all linked to cancer.
75-80% Covid patients have co-morbidity that could be linked to other factors other than a virus. Those of us who are healthy enough don’t need a vaccine just like we don’t take it for common cold and other coronaviruses.
You're at risk being old, a drinker, and a smoker.
Not a drinker (as defined by having 3 drinks every night), I drink on occasion and mostly red wine, I smoke once/twice a year for my birthday and New Year’s Eve and not in age group at risk for Covid -19. Your argument is not scientific.
I’m sorry that you have to take vaccine in order to stay employed. That must suck :/
I hope you don’t develop any serious complications, years down the road.
You're in your 40's. 18-64 is the greatest at risk age group for getting the virus.
Also.. I don't have to take the vaccine. It is not mandatory.
Greatest for getting the virus, not greatest to die of it.
You said you were getting the vaccine next week? Lol, don’t make me dig your posts 😂
How will hospital do it’s part to decrease the outbreak and promote vaccine awareness if they can’t even vaccinate their own employees?
We ARE getting it. We DON'T have to take it.
Same thing. Good luck with that.
Employers generally have the right to require employees to get vaccinations. Employment in the US is typically at-will, which means an employer can fire an employee for any reason as long as it does not have to deal with an employee’s protected identity, for example, an employee’s race or religion. Barring some religious and health-related exemptions, private businesses have the specific right to maintain their own health and safety standards and are legally able to fire employees who violate their rules, including if they do not get certain vaccines.
Wrong.
We will see once you get fired. But since you will take the vaccine willingly, you have nothing to worry about 😉click to expand

Posted by CreamyPVPosted by _DazedPosted by CreamyPVPosted by _DazedPosted by CreamyPVPosted by _DazedPosted by CreamyPVPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by sweethearts
Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.
Why not Creamy?
For the reasons you and Peachy06 listed. It was done too fast and its too new. I get they have been working on rna vaccines for years, but I don't trust it. This shit could be AZT 2.0. May do more harm than good.
Are you worried about the time it took to put the vaccine together? Or the length of the trial study?
A bit of both, but mostly the length of time in testing. Now I know they were working on a vaccine for SARS already so it shortened the time foe making similar vaccines like the COVID vaccine. But what concerns me is the speed at which it is getting approved. The vaccines still have side effects but they are so desperate they are just pushing it through. It just feels like the same thing they did with AZT and years later they realized the drug was worst than the virus.
The side effects have been comparable to those seen in the placebo group and in the population in general.
Can I ask where you are getting information on the vaccine study outcomes?
A friend of a friend works in DC and warned us not to take it right away. As far as the side effects, just what I hear in the media. I'm naturally suspicious of vaccines though.
Have you watched the FDA meeting covering the results of the study?
Where are we going with this line of questioning counsellor? You're not this invested in my opinions or my well being. Spit it out.click to expand

Posted by CreamyPVPosted by _DazedPosted by CreamyPVPosted by _DazedPosted by CreamyPVPosted by _DazedPosted by CreamyPVPosted by _DazedPosted by CreamyPVPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by CreamyPVPosted by sweethearts
Looks like America is starting to vaccinate this month. So who is getting in to have it?
Why? Why not?
Nope.
Why not Creamy?
For the reasons you and Peachy06 listed. It was done too fast and its too new. I get they have been working on rna vaccines for years, but I don't trust it. This shit could be AZT 2.0. May do more harm than good.
Are you worried about the time it took to put the vaccine together? Or the length of the trial study?
A bit of both, but mostly the length of time in testing. Now I know they were working on a vaccine for SARS already so it shortened the time foe making similar vaccines like the COVID vaccine. But what concerns me is the speed at which it is getting approved. The vaccines still have side effects but they are so desperate they are just pushing it through. It just feels like the same thing they did with AZT and years later they realized the drug was worst than the virus.
The side effects have been comparable to those seen in the placebo group and in the population in general.
Can I ask where you are getting information on the vaccine study outcomes?
A friend of a friend works in DC and warned us not to take it right away. As far as the side effects, just what I hear in the media. I'm naturally suspicious of vaccines though.
Have you watched the FDA meeting covering the results of the study?
Where are we going with this line of questioning counsellor? You're not this invested in my opinions or my well being. Spit it out.
I would never wish ill on you.
I do wish for you to be well informed on this particular matter so that you don't see (hopefully you haven't already) what many others are seeing happen to their loved ones.
It's your decision either way, as with ever one else. I simply want everyone to have as much information as they possibly can to make that decision.
I read whatever I can find about the vaccine. I am just naturally suspicious of anything new. I won't even get a new phone when it comes out. So once I have had time to vet the vaccine I will reassess. But in the beginning I will wait. Yes my family has been affected by COVID. They are still adamant about waiting to see if any more side effects are presented.click to expand





Posted by tiziani
I heard it has a 50% death rate and I'm the right man to beat those odds. Sign me up.

Posted by tizianiPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by tiziani
I heard it has a 50% death rate and I'm the right man to beat those odds. Sign me up.
Think the odds have gone up to 60% ....you still on mate?
Let me at that needle!click to expand



Posted by HypnotoadPosted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by HypnotoadPosted by sweetheartsPosted by HypnotoadPosted by sweetheartsPosted by MyStarsShine
Are you getting it sweethearts?
It’s not been approved here yet....
Eventually when it’s proven to be successful and our government decides to bring it through for us. NZ is also taking there time to see how things pan out. Fortunately we have time on our hands. You @mystarshine? Are you in WA?
Are you like me? Pissed off that we even have to because we don't need to.
Not really, more relieved that we live down under and that Scomo followed Jacinda’s exemplary leadership to put us in this position. One day at a time though, happy we will have our own bubble soon. I have many friends here wanting to go home to see families and a few that have lost family members and haven’t been able to go home for the tangi’s and funerals. Financially and emotionally it’s been challenging all round!
Yes so we all know we don't need to and if the rest of the world had their shit together there wouldn't be any need to do it.
I would be a bit pissed too. That has to be annoying.
Especially with the risk of it not working and causing more spread. Right now we actually have allot of covid cases in isolation at the borders from returning kiwis and idiots traveling, the risk is extremely high that it could break out and the government had even issued a warning that over summer holiday season we should be prepared to lock down. Which is pretty bs, since we sorted it and its people returning who are the problem.click to expand





Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Ain no damn way I'm taking this jab now. I just read 2 people died from that and somebody else is sick from that injection.
Uh-uhhhh my final decision is made....

Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Ain no damn way I'm taking this jab now. I just read 2 people died from that and somebody else is sick from that injection.
Uh-uhhhh my final decision is made....
There's a lot of people that won't. I have been talking to people in my area who are pro vaccines that won't have it. They all say the same....."much too soon" and they are not prepared to be guinea pigs...click to expand

Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Ain no damn way I'm taking this jab now. I just read 2 people died from that and somebody else is sick from that injection.
Uh-uhhhh my final decision is made....

Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Ain no damn way I'm taking this jab now. I just read 2 people died from that and somebody else is sick from that injection.
Uh-uhhhh my final decision is made....
There's a lot of people that won't. I have been talking to people in my area who are pro vaccines that won't have it. They all say the same....."much too soon" and they are not prepared to be guinea pigs...![]()
Well I know who ain't gone take it.. me. Even if they were to pay me a large sum of money to try it I'm still gonna deny it. Its not often I turn down money but this is one time I'll turn it down. Not if its gonna cost me my life.click to expand


Posted by MrsElleCappysnatch
I think I would prefer the Pfizer vaccine over the Moderna. I'm thinking the general public will get the Moderna.
I also think there will be a problem with having enough for second doses. Something is just giving me a feeling about the coordination being off. I have no links or proof....this is just what I think might happen.

Posted by MrsElleCappysnatch
I think I would prefer the Pfizer vaccine over the Moderna. I'm thinking the general public will get the Moderna.
I also think there will be a problem with having enough for second doses. Something is just giving me a feeling about the coordination being off. I have no links or proof....this is just what I think might happen.

Posted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by _DazedPosted by MrsElleCappysnatch
I think I would prefer the Pfizer vaccine over the Moderna. I'm thinking the general public will get the Moderna.
I also think there will be a problem with having enough for second doses. Something is just giving me a feeling about the coordination being off. I have no links or proof....this is just what I think might happen.
I've been watching the Defense and Homeland Security Briefings with Alex Azar and General Perna. The general in particular, seems REALLY confidant that their distribution plan will work properly.
I really hope so. I just worry about Trump.and his cronies fucking it up somehow since they are so bitter over the election.
It is also imperative that Trump gets his asap....I am afraid 74 million of his supporters will refuse if he does.click to expand


Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Ain no damn way I'm taking this jab now. I just read 2 people died from that and somebody else is sick from that injection.
Uh-uhhhh my final decision is made....
There's a lot of people that won't. I have been talking to people in my area who are pro vaccines that won't have it. They all say the same....."much too soon" and they are not prepared to be guinea pigs...click to expand

Posted by Sailor_Mars
I am not sure. I want to believe all the good scientific people out there because they mostly are pure hearted, but there is this great Agatha Christie novel Operation Baghdad I think where a billionaire has a vast secret underground laboratory which does all sorts of things. He ( the character ) stated in the novel that Scientists lack common sense because they get passionately invested in their work...🤷♀️ I don't think the 1% which holds power loves us, nor do I think that they will kill us all. But something is happening. And I am afraid of the future, not because I'd die. I am afraid of everyone I love dying. I am afraid of not knowing what to do.


Posted by SoulPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Ain no damn way I'm taking this jab now. I just read 2 people died from that and somebody else is sick from that injection.
Uh-uhhhh my final decision is made....
There's a lot of people that won't. I have been talking to people in my area who are pro vaccines that won't have it. They all say the same....."much too soon" and they are not prepared to be guinea pigs...
Tbh drugs treat all people different. If they came out with a vaccine and say "We will fully test you. Slightly at first to make sure you aren't allergic to any of the chemicals/ drugs in this vaccine." OR they could say. "Your resuls have come in, and we can fully see you are allergic to chemical x,y, and Z, so we have to give you something different." If that was the case I would be completely about getting it. If they say "Come one, come all! The vaccination is out! Pay a sum amount of money and all your problems will be solved!" Then I will know its scam and won't get it. I'm actually eager to see how they try and deploy it.
I want a pro vaccer to fight me rn 😆click to expand


Posted by MadTwins80Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by SoulPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Ain no damn way I'm taking this jab now. I just read 2 people died from that and somebody else is sick from that injection.
Uh-uhhhh my final decision is made....
There's a lot of people that won't. I have been talking to people in my area who are pro vaccines that won't have it. They all say the same....."much too soon" and they are not prepared to be guinea pigs...
Tbh drugs treat all people different. If they came out with a vaccine and say "We will fully test you. Slightly at first to make sure you aren't allergic to any of the chemicals/ drugs in this vaccine." OR they could say. "Your resuls have come in, and we can fully see you are allergic to chemical x,y, and Z, so we have to give you something different." If that was the case I would be completely about getting it. If they say "Come one, come all! The vaccination is out! Pay a sum amount of money and all your problems will be solved!" Then I will know its scam and won't get it. I'm actually eager to see how they try and deploy it.
I want a pro vaccer to fight me rn 😆
👏👏👏👏
I’m amazed at peoples’ trust and blind faith with this. One size fits all?? 🥴😬
If we all wait to see how the vaccine works then >50% of the world pop will have caught covid by then and even at 1% death rate that's over 400 million dead plus 100s of millions more with long covid complications . Plus a lot more unnecessary deaths because hospitals couldn't cope
I don't think anyone thinks it's ideal to rush out vaccines but it's a question of damage limitation and tough choices
Unless I misunderstand your point lol. Oh to be more careful with the testing for allergic reactions... again, same reason as above, it's emergency measures right now. They'll hopefully be able to do that with the lower priority people in a few months time. I don't think they have the capacity to do that right now and still manage the mass innoculations that are neededclick to expand

Posted by _DazedPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Ain no damn way I'm taking this jab now. I just read 2 people died from that and somebody else is sick from that injection.
Uh-uhhhh my final decision is made....
More people died from taking the placebo in the trials than those that took the vaccine.click to expand

Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by _DazedPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Ain no damn way I'm taking this jab now. I just read 2 people died from that and somebody else is sick from that injection.
Uh-uhhhh my final decision is made....
More people died from taking the placebo in the trials than those that took the vaccine.
How many people died from taking the vaccine in the trials?
Posted by _Dazed
Sooooooo strange...
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Posted by bmoon8Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Ain no damn way I'm taking this jab now. I just read 2 people died from that and somebody else is sick from that injection.
Uh-uhhhh my final decision is made....
Can you post your source?click to expand

Posted by bmoon8Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
I don't know. I don't know what kind of impact that's gonna have.
I just wonder if people still gone buy that stuff that never got tested or was always negative.
As LiterallyStalinG’s post stated:
“Anyone having the vaccine once it is rolled out in December WILL be part of a wider ongoing experiment”
So you think all the people now getting it are guinea pigs?click to expand

Posted by bmoon8Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by sweetheartsPosted by MyStarsShine
Are you getting it sweethearts?
It’s not been approved here yet....
Eventually when it’s proven to be successful and our government decides to bring it through for us. NZ is also taking there time to see how things pan out. Fortunately we have time on our hands. You @mystarshine? Are you in WA?
Oh right. I’m in Ireland and i wouldn’t think
about getting it till sufficient proof of its safety has been proved and found out what’s actually in it. Even then I’m doubtful... the last jab I got made me very sick.
There is information provided at your fingertips on what is in each vaccine being used: Pfizer and Moderna. Basically, if you have allergic reaction to other vaccines, do not get it.click to expand

Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by bmoon8Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by sweetheartsPosted by MyStarsShine
Are you getting it sweethearts?
It’s not been approved here yet....
Eventually when it’s proven to be successful and our government decides to bring it through for us. NZ is also taking there time to see how things pan out. Fortunately we have time on our hands. You @mystarshine? Are you in WA?
Oh right. I’m in Ireland and i wouldn’t think
about getting it till sufficient proof of its safety has been proved and found out what’s actually in it. Even then I’m doubtful... the last jab I got made me very sick.
There is information provided at your fingertips on what is in each vaccine being used: Pfizer and Moderna. Basically, if you have allergic reaction to other vaccines, do not get it.
Because we don’t fully know whats in the vaccine, people could be allergic to it’s content therein. How many recipients have studied each ingredient or even know what’s fully in it?
The CEO of Pfizer says he still has some concerns.click to expand

Posted by bmoon8
@_Dazed Did you get scheduled for your vaccine? I got scheduled for it today. One of my coworkers got it already. Thank G_d I am getting the vaccine very soon, what a relief.


Posted by bmoon8Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by bmoon8Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Ain no damn way I'm taking this jab now. I just read 2 people died from that and somebody else is sick from that injection.
Uh-uhhhh my final decision is made....
Can you post your source?
The story is old now. I don't have receipts. I red this on my local news app. Not on some internet.
Most local news has a footprint on the web. I know that you are from South Carolina, so probably a story from down in the South? I did find this, plus other media sources fact checking that it was false.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/12/alabama-officials-debunk-false-claim-of-covid-19-vaccine-death/
Other than that, you could be exaggerating or fear-mongering. You have not always been honest in the past and I know for fact that Geminis (not all) can fib. I have a Gemini nephew with Cancer Mercury. That boy has been lying from the time he was very small.
Prove me wrong and post a screenshot or picture of the news story.click to expand

Posted by bmoon8
@Peachy06
I got the 2nd shot 7 1/2 hours ago and feel fine. Boring vaccine for me. Don’t know what the hype was all about and all the damn myths out there about it. Moderna on!

Posted by LiterallyStalinGPosted by bmoon8Posted by LiterallyStalinGPosted by bmoon8Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by bmoon8Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
I don't know. I don't know what kind of impact that's gonna have.
I just wonder if people still gone buy that stuff that never got tested or was always negative.
As LiterallyStalinG’s post stated:
“Anyone having the vaccine once it is rolled out in December WILL be part of a wider ongoing experiment”
So you think all the people now getting it are guinea pigs?
Yes
It’s possible, but not an absolute. The guinea pigs have gone before us in the trial phase of the vaccine. Someone like me owes it to their sacrifice to follow in their footsteps. The only outcome people like me will give is a known variable to when and if people need vaccinated again.
Trials take up to 4 years to complete.
And they’re giving it to healthcare workers first. I am very certain they would not do that if it was not safe and effective. That would just get rid of the population that is there to help you when you get sick.
https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/featured-topic/covid-19-vaccine-myths-debunked
I have a condition that would react badly with the vaccine. My airways would all just get blocked and I would suffocate. They fucked my immune system with antibiotics over in the US, Canada and in my country so sorry if I'm a bit hesitant in just handing out trust.
I'm reserving judgement for late because it's all still just happening. You never truly figure something out except in hindsight so I'm waiting till the 3 years. Rushed and science are two words that should not go together and 18 months is quick however you wanna spin it.
My body my temple. I'd rather die first. I get to choose how to degrade it.
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Posted by bmoon8Posted by LiterallyStalinGPosted by bmoon8Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by bmoon8Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
I don't know. I don't know what kind of impact that's gonna have.
I just wonder if people still gone buy that stuff that never got tested or was always negative.
As LiterallyStalinG’s post stated:
“Anyone having the vaccine once it is rolled out in December WILL be part of a wider ongoing experiment”
So you think all the people now getting it are guinea pigs?
Yes
It’s possible, but not an absolute. The guinea pigs have gone before us in the trial phase of the vaccine. Someone like me owes it to their sacrifice to follow in their footsteps. The only outcome people like me will give is a known variable to when and if people need vaccinated again.
Trials take up to 4 years to complete.
And they’re giving it to healthcare workers first. I am very certain they would not do that if it was not safe and effective. That would just get rid of the population that is there to help you when you get sick.
https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/featured-topic/covid-19-vaccine-myths-debunked<div class="bqfade">click to expand




Posted by bmoon8
Update: I got a sore arm several hours later that lasted throughout the night. It felt like someone punched me. Otherwise, no side effects.

Posted by bmoon8Posted by saggurl88Posted by bmoon8
Update: I got a sore arm several hours later that lasted throughout the night. It felt like someone punched me. Otherwise, no side effects.
second or first one?
2nd one. My arm was more sore than with the 1st shot.click to expand

Posted by bmoon8Posted by saggurl88Posted by bmoon8Posted by saggurl88Posted by bmoon8
Update: I got a sore arm several hours later that lasted throughout the night. It felt like someone punched me. Otherwise, no side effects.
second or first one?
2nd one. My arm was more sore than with the 1st shot.
Glad you handled it well! Hope it does the job it's supposed to! 🙂
Thanks. 🙂 Takes 2 weeks to build immunities to the Covid.click to expand
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