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do leo women use men for their wallets?
YEP. Total users and leeches.
Not all, but it's frequent enough to notice a trend.
They're either independent or total leeches and expect to be taken care of.
Not all, but it's frequent enough to notice a trend.
They're either independent or total leeches and expect to be taken care of.
idk about other leo girls maybe the immature ones are bratz but i deff make my own money, always have. I actually always offer to pay for friends when we go out to eat.
Posted by rockyroadicecreamSeems like they can be both independent and total leeches? Another trend I noticed is that the ones I know like to date guys that totally mistreat them or don't really give them much at all? It's weird, their ex's mistreated them emotionally by cheating and such, and didn't give them much attention or didn't romanticize them much. To go with that, the Leo girls would pay for Everything when it came to their ex's. How does any of this make sense? True enigmas these women. I do like em though still, but I don't understand their logic sometimes.
YEP. Total users and leeches.
Not all, but it's frequent enough to notice a trend.
They're either independent or total leeches and expect to be taken care of.
Posted by MoonshineLeoThese are definitely the immature ones for sure. I did see one of my leo friends pay for pizza for her girl friends this one time, but that was the only time I saw her being generous and I've known her for like 5 years lol.
idk about other leo girls maybe the immature ones are bratz but i deff make my own money, always have. I actually always offer to pay for friends when we go out to eat.
Posted by MoonshineLeoThat's exactly what it is- the immature and un-evolved ones do this.
idk about other leo girls maybe the immature ones are bratz but i deff make my own money, always have. I actually always offer to pay for friends when we go out to eat.
Posted by earlorg16wow i feel like leos are extremely generous. Even my ex was a leo and always payed for me. Maybe it comes down to morals.Posted by MoonshineLeoThese are definitely the immature ones for sure. I did see one of my leo friends pay for pizza for her girl friends this one time, but that was the only time I saw her being generous and I've known her for like 5 years lol.
idk about other leo girls maybe the immature ones are bratz but i deff make my own money, always have. I actually always offer to pay for friends when we go out to eat.click to expand
Maybe they are just not matured yet. Me myself, I take pride in being independent and being able to handle my own. If a friend asked me to pay for my own ticket i do not see how it is a problem
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Posted by MoonshineLeoI don't notice Leo guys being like this. My leo guy friends are extremely generous. Was only pointing out the leo girls being this way, but like you said, it's probably the immature ones.Posted by earlorg16wow i feel like leos are extremely generous. Even my ex was a leo and always payed for me. Maybe it comes down to morals.Posted by MoonshineLeoThese are definitely the immature ones for sure. I did see one of my leo friends pay for pizza for her girl friends this one time, but that was the only time I saw her being generous and I've known her for like 5 years lol.
idk about other leo girls maybe the immature ones are bratz but i deff make my own money, always have. I actually always offer to pay for friends when we go out to eat.click to expand
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeUm, I don't want anything from them besides honesty and listing their intent. This however, has nothing to do with me and more to do with how some of my leo friends have been towards other dudes. The leo women friends I have talk to me about their issues all the time and I'm just confused by their actions a good amount and how they lead guys on. I don't think it's right to flirt with your friends, then tell them you're not into dating, then expect them to pay for everything and get upset at them if they don't. Exactly how is that being a friend? LolPosted by earlorg16what's your point, what do you want from them? I love getting things for FREE tho, i aint going to lie, i will make a persons ears bleed for a discount or to get into something for free, but i always thought that was my Crab miser ways. but if you expect something it happens, miraculously, like i want to get into a concert, i get inPosted by rockyroadicecreamSeems like they can be both independent and total leeches? Another trend I noticed is that the ones I know like to date guys that totally mistreat them or don't really give them much at all? It's weird, their ex's mistreated them emotionally by cheating and such, and didn't give them much attention or didn't romanticize them much. To go with that, the Leo girls would pay for Everything when it came to their ex's. How does any of this make sense? True enigmas these women. I do like em though still, but I don't understand their logic sometimes.
YEP. Total users and leeches.
Not all, but it's frequent enough to notice a trend.
They're either independent or total leeches and expect to be taken care of.
as a crab with 4 leo placements, i like the challenge of men i can't control...
i can't speak for leo womenclick to expand
Posted by aquarius_beautyNot disputing that it can happen to all signs, just stating in my original post that we've noticed this only happening with most of the leo girls we know.
Un-evolved individuals will always show the most negative traits of a sign. It happens in all signs.
No. If anything it's the opposite.
My Leo mother is way too giving and selfless (when it comes to material sheet). She's been taken advantage of by many men for her 'wallet'.
My Leo mother is way too giving and selfless (when it comes to material sheet). She's been taken advantage of by many men for her 'wallet'.
Posted by aquanibShe IS older and goes for younger dudes. No Aries placements tho. She does have a Scorpio rising, just like my sister. They both are gluttons for punishment, they stick around LOOOONNG after I would've bailed.Posted by LadyNeptuneOT but i see this with aries women. Older that go for the younger men. It's smh watching it in real life.....
My Leo mother is way too giving and selfless (when it comes to material sheet). She's been taken advantage of by many men for her 'wallet'.
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This post reminds me of a Leo girl I know lol. She always talks about her friends buying things for her and she's said before that she likes to flirt around with guys.
I think it's an ego thing
I think it's an ego thing
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeLOL, oh yeah I do. I'm the most honest, blunt guy in my group and people take things I say the wrong way but I just tell it like it is. I tell them that it's okay for a friend to treat once in a while at the most, but to have your friend pay for your cab rides, ticket fares, meals, clothes, etc, ALL THE F'N time is not exactly what a friend should do for you and they're just like, "well then they should stop doing that then right?" and i tell them, "it doesn't help that you're only hanging with dudes that are into you, and you Know they're into you now does it?" and they're just silent about it. The response I get is, "well I tell them i'm not trying to date though." and i respond with, "that still doesn't make it okay to expect them to pay for you all the time especially when you, yourself, know your true intent and have already stated it to them." just breaking hearts left and right and they come to me and complain about it...Posted by earlorg16Do you tell them this?Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeUm, I don't want anything from them besides honesty and listing their intent. This however, has nothing to do with me and more to do with how some of my leo friends have been towards other dudes. The leo women friends I have talk to me about their issues all the time and I'm just confused by their actions a good amount and how they lead guys on. I don't think it's right to flirt with your friends, then tell them you're not into dating, then expect them to pay for everything and get upset at them if they don't. Exactly how is that being a friend? LolPosted by earlorg16what's your point, what do you want from them? I love getting things for FREE tho, i aint going to lie, i will make a persons ears bleed for a discount or to get into something for free, but i always thought that was my Crab miser ways. but if you expect something it happens, miraculously, like i want to get into a concert, i get inPosted by rockyroadicecreamSeems like they can be both independent and total leeches? Another trend I noticed is that the ones I know like to date guys that totally mistreat them or don't really give them much at all? It's weird, their ex's mistreated them emotionally by cheating and such, and didn't give them much attention or didn't romanticize them much. To go with that, the Leo girls would pay for Everything when it came to their ex's. How does any of this make sense? True enigmas these women. I do like em though still, but I don't understand their logic sometimes.
YEP. Total users and leeches.
Not all, but it's frequent enough to notice a trend.
They're either independent or total leeches and expect to be taken care of.
as a crab with 4 leo placements, i like the challenge of men i can't control...
i can't speak for leo women
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Posted by earlorg16It's one of two extremes, I've noticed.Posted by rockyroadicecreamSeems like they can be both independent and total leeches? Another trend I noticed is that the ones I know like to date guys that totally mistreat them or don't really give them much at all? It's weird, their ex's mistreated them emotionally by cheating and such, and didn't give them much attention or didn't romanticize them much. To go with that, the Leo girls would pay for Everything when it came to their ex's. How does any of this make sense? True enigmas these women. I do like em though still, but I don't understand their logic sometimes.
YEP. Total users and leeches.
Not all, but it's frequent enough to notice a trend.
They're either independent or total leeches and expect to be taken care of.click to expand
Leo is a fixed sign and is ruled by its fucking ego. Fixed signs tend to do stupid shit in relationships because once something is in their mind of how it should be, no matter how far off they are, they stay put in that. That means being a silly bitch and paying for everything- its a desperate move to keep a relationship. Generally, Leo women are notorious relationship hoppers. They don't take down time and jump from one to the other when they end.
Ego is a scary thing when it rules your existence, tbh.
Posted by LadyNeptuneYour mom seems like a more mature leo who knows what she wants. The ones I know on the other hand...Posted by aquanibShe IS older and goes for younger dudes. No Aries placements tho. She does have a Scorpio rising, just like my sister. They both are gluttons for punishment, they stick around LOOOONNG after I would've bailed.Posted by LadyNeptuneOT but i see this with aries women. Older that go for the younger men. It's smh watching it in real life.....
My Leo mother is way too giving and selfless (when it comes to material sheet). She's been taken advantage of by many men for her 'wallet'.
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Posted by aquarius_beauty
Un-evolved individuals will always show the most negative traits of a sign. It happens in all signs.
Exactly. Like I've said before, with the way society has been conditioned to be babied and encourages immaturity, we see a lot more of it anymore.
Posted by LadyNeptuneDouble fixed. Gag.Posted by aquanibShe IS older and goes for younger dudes. No Aries placements tho. She does have a Scorpio rising, just like my sister. They both are gluttons for punishment, they stick around LOOOONNG after I would've bailed.Posted by LadyNeptuneOT but i see this with aries women. Older that go for the younger men. It's smh watching it in real life.....
My Leo mother is way too giving and selfless (when it comes to material sheet). She's been taken advantage of by many men for her 'wallet'.
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Posted by earlorg16No she's always been this way. If anything she get more immature with age.Posted by LadyNeptuneYour mom seems like a more mature leo who knows what she wants. The ones I know on the other hand...Posted by aquanibShe IS older and goes for younger dudes. No Aries placements tho. She does have a Scorpio rising, just like my sister. They both are gluttons for punishment, they stick around LOOOONNG after I would've bailed.Posted by LadyNeptuneOT but i see this with aries women. Older that go for the younger men. It's smh watching it in real life.....
My Leo mother is way too giving and selfless (when it comes to material sheet). She's been taken advantage of by many men for her 'wallet'.
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Posted by 2MoonDude, you are not alone man. Good to know that I'm not alone with seeing through this crap. LolPosted by earlorg16This is the type of Leo women that I know!Posted by rockyroadicecreamSeems like they can be both independent and total leeches? Another trend I noticed is that the ones I know like to date guys that totally mistreat them or don't really give them much at all? It's weird, their ex's mistreated them emotionally by cheating and such, and didn't give them much attention or didn't romanticize them much. To go with that, the Leo girls would pay for Everything when it came to their ex's. How does any of this make sense? True enigmas these women. I do like em though still, but I don't understand their logic sometimes.
YEP. Total users and leeches.
Not all, but it's frequent enough to notice a trend.
They're either independent or total leeches and expect to be taken care of.
They date bad boys that treat them like shit and give them nothing.
I tried in the past to approach a Leo woman, she was this type.
Rejected me cuz I treated her with respect. SMH.
This happened like 3 times. 3 different Leo woman!
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Leo woman can expect to be doted on is they are more immature, though a lot of them are independent and can handle themselves. They're usually the ones giving gifts and the like. My last Leo girlfriend would DEMAND that she paid half on our dates. Me being a typically Leo would have to persuade her otherwise (Don't ever argue with a Leo woman if you can help it).
Posted by 2MoonThat's because they thrive off of drama. It's a mental sickness, tbh. People who crave drama and if it isn't happening, something is wrong. This is why they run from normalcy and cling to dysfunction. To crave that type of fuckery, there's some serious mental instability going on. Never will understand sad bitches like this. It's exhausting to be around.Posted by earlorg16This is the type of Leo women that I know!Posted by rockyroadicecreamSeems like they can be both independent and total leeches? Another trend I noticed is that the ones I know like to date guys that totally mistreat them or don't really give them much at all? It's weird, their ex's mistreated them emotionally by cheating and such, and didn't give them much attention or didn't romanticize them much. To go with that, the Leo girls would pay for Everything when it came to their ex's. How does any of this make sense? True enigmas these women. I do like em though still, but I don't understand their logic sometimes.
YEP. Total users and leeches.
Not all, but it's frequent enough to notice a trend.
They're either independent or total leeches and expect to be taken care of.
They date bad boys that treat them like shit and give them nothing.
I tried in the past to approach a Leo woman, she was this type.
Rejected me cuz I treated her with respect. SMH.
This happened like 3 times. 3 different Leo woman!
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Posted by rockyroadicecreamYou have NO IDEA. Like I love her cause she's my mom but I can only stand to be around her for so long and then I gotta get out. Sorry mom.Posted by LadyNeptuneDouble fixed. Gag.Posted by aquanibShe IS older and goes for younger dudes. No Aries placements tho. She does have a Scorpio rising, just like my sister. They both are gluttons for punishment, they stick around LOOOONNG after I would've bailed.Posted by LadyNeptuneOT but i see this with aries women. Older that go for the younger men. It's smh watching it in real life.....
My Leo mother is way too giving and selfless (when it comes to material sheet). She's been taken advantage of by many men for her 'wallet'.
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Posted by LadyNeptuneWell the fact that you stated she gets taken advantage by men says a lot about the personality. Not "people," but "men." She's desperate for male attention, like a lot of Leo women seem to be. In turn, they do all sorts of stupid shit to keep that male attention.Posted by rockyroadicecreamYou have NO IDEA. Like I love her cause she's my mom but I can only stand to be around her for so long and then I gotta get out. Sorry mom.Posted by LadyNeptuneDouble fixed. Gag.Posted by aquanibShe IS older and goes for younger dudes. No Aries placements tho. She does have a Scorpio rising, just like my sister. They both are gluttons for punishment, they stick around LOOOONNG after I would've bailed.Posted by LadyNeptuneOT but i see this with aries women. Older that go for the younger men. It's smh watching it in real life.....
My Leo mother is way too giving and selfless (when it comes to material sheet). She's been taken advantage of by many men for her 'wallet'.
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I didn't used to think much of it until I came across one of the first crazy ones in my anatomy class. From there, I kept meeting off their rocker types. We generally would get along really well at first, but then it was always some batshit issues that made me sidestep. Either insecure as fuck (the anatomy class one was threatened by my existence and started acting like a freak), or the mooching side starts coming out "everyone cater to me and I only want to be bothered with you if it benefits me somehow," or the ones who are relationship hoes.
Posted by rockyroadicecreamI said men instead of people because of the op's "Leo women use the men they date" thing. But now that I think of it she doesn't have many female friends. She surrounds herself with male 'friends' who are all thirsting after her ass. She craves male attention and admiration no matter how much she is getting from home (read: her man).Posted by LadyNeptuneWell the fact that you stated she gets taken advantage by men says a lot about the personality. Not "people," but "men." She's desperate for male attention, like a lot of Leo women seem to be. In turn, they do all sorts of stupid shit to keep that male attention.Posted by rockyroadicecreamYou have NO IDEA. Like I love her cause she's my mom but I can only stand to be around her for so long and then I gotta get out. Sorry mom.Posted by LadyNeptuneDouble fixed. Gag.Posted by aquanibShe IS older and goes for younger dudes. No Aries placements tho. She does have a Scorpio rising, just like my sister. They both are gluttons for punishment, they stick around LOOOONNG after I would've bailed.Posted by LadyNeptuneOT but i see this with aries women. Older that go for the younger men. It's smh watching it in real life.....
My Leo mother is way too giving and selfless (when it comes to material sheet). She's been taken advantage of by many men for her 'wallet'.
I didn't used to think much of it until I came across one of the first crazy ones in my anatomy class. From there, I kept meeting off their rocker types. We generally would get along really well at first, but then it was always some batshit issues that made me sidestep. Either insecure as fuck (the anatomy class one was threatened by my existence and started acting like a freak), or the mooching side starts coming out "everyone cater to me and I only want to be bothered with you if it benefits me somehow," or the ones who are relationship hoes.click to expand
I don't know if this is a Leo thing...
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeOne thing I've noticed about my sister and mothers scorp rising is they demand things from others they aren't willing to give themselves.
im extremely fixed, i think my rising is scorpio, but i've only been misused once, by my x virgo, he's the only one that tapped into my deep emotions and made me want to commit 1000% , just by being himself.
Posted by leowww
Nope.
Leo women, I personally know : nope. Lol
It's the opposite & we have the boss mentality.
Guys don't always seem to like or appreciate that.
My own personal nightmare is one where I'm financially dependent of a man.
It's all good to the women who don't mind it, I personally do. It bothers me a lot.
I don't have a problem being taken care of but :
Somethings I'll cover, somethings he will.. As long as it stays equal & mutual for the most part. I'm fine with it.
Same.
*...shudders...*
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI've had my experiences with Leo girls already and I don't really plan on going back. Again, I'm just pointing out experiences my friends have had with them and pointing out trends. Not looking for personal advice, just seeing if others can relate to this sorta behavior or have seen this themselves.Posted by earlorg16Just tell them how would you feel if someone used you like that?Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeLOL, oh yeah I do. I'm the most honest, blunt guy in my group and people take things I say the wrong way but I just tell it like it is. I tell them that it's okay for a friend to treat once in a while at the most, but to have your friend pay for your cab rides, ticket fares, meals, clothes, etc, ALL THE F'N time is not exactly what a friend should do for you and they're just like, "well then they should stop doing that then right?" and i tell them, "it doesn't help that you're only hanging with dudes that are into you, and you Know they're into you now does it?" and they're just silent about it. The response I get is, "well I tell them i'm not trying to date though." and i respond with, "that still doesn't make it okay to expect them to pay for you all the time especially when you, yourself, know your true intent and have already stated it to them." just breaking hearts left and right and they come to me and complain about it...Posted by earlorg16Do you tell them this?Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeUm, I don't want anything from them besides honesty and listing their intent. This however, has nothing to do with me and more to do with how some of my leo friends have been towards other dudes. The leo women friends I have talk to me about their issues all the time and I'm just confused by their actions a good amount and how they lead guys on. I don't think it's right to flirt with your friends, then tell them you're not into dating, then expect them to pay for everything and get upset at them if they don't. Exactly how is that being a friend? LolPosted by earlorg16what's your point, what do you want from them? I love getting things for FREE tho, i aint going to lie, i will make a persons ears bleed for a discount or to get into something for free, but i always thought that was my Crab miser ways. but if you expect something it happens, miraculously, like i want to get into a concert, i get inPosted by rockyroadicecreamSeems like they can be both independent and total leeches? Another trend I noticed is that the ones I know like to date guys that totally mistreat them or don't really give them much at all? It's weird, their ex's mistreated them emotionally by cheating and such, and didn't give them much attention or didn't romanticize them much. To go with that, the Leo girls would pay for Everything when it came to their ex's. How does any of this make sense? True enigmas these women. I do like em though still, but I don't understand their logic sometimes.
YEP. Total users and leeches.
Not all, but it's frequent enough to notice a trend.
They're either independent or total leeches and expect to be taken care of.
as a crab with 4 leo placements, i like the challenge of men i can't control...
i can't speak for leo women
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I've told some of the Leo's that do this, "would you pay for everything for your friend to hang with you?" and their response was a "no." and I told them, "Yeah I thought so, so why is it okay to do that to them then?"
Look, who Doesn't like free things? I think we all do, but to get free things at the expense of your friends without repaying them with either money or a kind gesture is another thing. To only hang with your supposed friends if only YOU get something free out of it such as free travel, food, and all the other crap is a bit extreme and unfair to me, especially if you knowingly hang with them knowing that they have feelings for you and it will lead them on, even after you told them you're not trying to date? That's just flat out manipulative. And I've told my guy friends to just stop doing it too. They're pretty stupid themselves for dealing with that kinda crap.
Posted by leowwwIf only the leo's involved in my circle were as mature as you...
Nope.
Leo women, I personally know : nope. Lol
It's the opposite & we have the boss mentality.
Guys don't always seem to like or appreciate that.
My own personal nightmare is one where I'm financially dependent of a man.
It's all good to the women who don't mind it, I personally do. It bothers me a lot.
I don't have a problem being taken care of but :
Somethings I'll cover, somethings he will.. As long as it stays equal & mutual for the most part. I'm fine with it.
Posted by aquarius_beautyHopefully they mature, I don't doubt that Leo's can be giving at all, just the ones that I know are you know, not there yet.Posted by earlorg16That's because they are un-evolved and immature. I know older Leos and they are VERY giving...all the time. It's actually very endearing and the same time alarming because people take advantage of them.
Not disputing that it can happen to all signs, just stating in my original post that we've noticed this only happening with most of the leo girls we know.click to expand
Posted by earlorg16I think you just have shit taste in friends. You've surrounded yourself with users. Don't try to understand their behavior, cut yourself free.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI've had my experiences with Leo girls already and I don't really plan on going back. Again, I'm just pointing out experiences my friends have had with them and pointing out trends. Not looking for personal advice, just seeing if others can relate to this sorta behavior or have seen this themselves.Posted by earlorg16Just tell them how would you feel if someone used you like that?Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeLOL, oh yeah I do. I'm the most honest, blunt guy in my group and people take things I say the wrong way but I just tell it like it is. I tell them that it's okay for a friend to treat once in a while at the most, but to have your friend pay for your cab rides, ticket fares, meals, clothes, etc, ALL THE F'N time is not exactly what a friend should do for you and they're just like, "well then they should stop doing that then right?" and i tell them, "it doesn't help that you're only hanging with dudes that are into you, and you Know they're into you now does it?" and they're just silent about it. The response I get is, "well I tell them i'm not trying to date though." and i respond with, "that still doesn't make it okay to expect them to pay for you all the time especially when you, yourself, know your true intent and have already stated it to them." just breaking hearts left and right and they come to me and complain about it...Posted by earlorg16Do you tell them this?Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeUm, I don't want anything from them besides honesty and listing their intent. This however, has nothing to do with me and more to do with how some of my leo friends have been towards other dudes. The leo women friends I have talk to me about their issues all the time and I'm just confused by their actions a good amount and how they lead guys on. I don't think it's right to flirt with your friends, then tell them you're not into dating, then expect them to pay for everything and get upset at them if they don't. Exactly how is that being a friend? LolPosted by earlorg16what's your point, what do you want from them? I love getting things for FREE tho, i aint going to lie, i will make a persons ears bleed for a discount or to get into something for free, but i always thought that was my Crab miser ways. but if you expect something it happens, miraculously, like i want to get into a concert, i get inPosted by rockyroadicecreamSeems like they can be both independent and total leeches? Another trend I noticed is that the ones I know like to date guys that totally mistreat them or don't really give them much at all? It's weird, their ex's mistreated them emotionally by cheating and such, and didn't give them much attention or didn't romanticize them much. To go with that, the Leo girls would pay for Everything when it came to their ex's. How does any of this make sense? True enigmas these women. I do like em though still, but I don't understand their logic sometimes.
YEP. Total users and leeches.
Not all, but it's frequent enough to notice a trend.
They're either independent or total leeches and expect to be taken care of.
as a crab with 4 leo placements, i like the challenge of men i can't control...
i can't speak for leo women
but i get their argument as well
I've told some of the Leo's that do this, "would you pay for everything for your friend to hang with you?" and their response was a "no." and I told them, "Yeah I thought so, so why is it okay to do that to them then?"
Look, who Doesn't like free things? I think we all do, but to get free things at the expense of your friends without repaying them with either money or a kind gesture is another thing. To only hang with your supposed friends if only YOU get something free out of it such as free travel, food, and all the other crap is a bit extreme and unfair to me, especially if you knowingly hang with them knowing that they have feelings for you and it will lead them on, even after you told them you're not trying to date? That's just flat out manipulative. And I've told my guy friends to just stop doing it too. They're pretty stupid themselves for dealing with that kinda crap.
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Posted by LadyNeptuneHah, not all of my friends are like this, so no I don't think I have crap taste in friends. We all have mature and immature friends no?Posted by earlorg16I think you just have shit taste in friends. You've surrounded yourself with users. Don't try to understand their behavior, cut yourself free.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI've had my experiences with Leo girls already and I don't really plan on going back. Again, I'm just pointing out experiences my friends have had with them and pointing out trends. Not looking for personal advice, just seeing if others can relate to this sorta behavior or have seen this themselves.Posted by earlorg16Just tell them how would you feel if someone used you like that?Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeLOL, oh yeah I do. I'm the most honest, blunt guy in my group and people take things I say the wrong way but I just tell it like it is. I tell them that it's okay for a friend to treat once in a while at the most, but to have your friend pay for your cab rides, ticket fares, meals, clothes, etc, ALL THE F'N time is not exactly what a friend should do for you and they're just like, "well then they should stop doing that then right?" and i tell them, "it doesn't help that you're only hanging with dudes that are into you, and you Know they're into you now does it?" and they're just silent about it. The response I get is, "well I tell them i'm not trying to date though." and i respond with, "that still doesn't make it okay to expect them to pay for you all the time especially when you, yourself, know your true intent and have already stated it to them." just breaking hearts left and right and they come to me and complain about it...Posted by earlorg16Do you tell them this?Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeUm, I don't want anything from them besides honesty and listing their intent. This however, has nothing to do with me and more to do with how some of my leo friends have been towards other dudes. The leo women friends I have talk to me about their issues all the time and I'm just confused by their actions a good amount and how they lead guys on. I don't think it's right to flirt with your friends, then tell them you're not into dating, then expect them to pay for everything and get upset at them if they don't. Exactly how is that being a friend? LolPosted by earlorg16what's your point, what do you want from them? I love getting things for FREE tho, i aint going to lie, i will make a persons ears bleed for a discount or to get into something for free, but i always thought that was my Crab miser ways. but if you expect something it happens, miraculously, like i want to get into a concert, i get inPosted by rockyroadicecreamSeems like they can be both independent and total leeches? Another trend I noticed is that the ones I know like to date guys that totally mistreat them or don't really give them much at all? It's weird, their ex's mistreated them emotionally by cheating and such, and didn't give them much attention or didn't romanticize them much. To go with that, the Leo girls would pay for Everything when it came to their ex's. How does any of this make sense? True enigmas these women. I do like em though still, but I don't understand their logic sometimes.
YEP. Total users and leeches.
Not all, but it's frequent enough to notice a trend.
They're either independent or total leeches and expect to be taken care of.
as a crab with 4 leo placements, i like the challenge of men i can't control...
i can't speak for leo women
but i get their argument as well
I've told some of the Leo's that do this, "would you pay for everything for your friend to hang with you?" and their response was a "no." and I told them, "Yeah I thought so, so why is it okay to do that to them then?"
Look, who Doesn't like free things? I think we all do, but to get free things at the expense of your friends without repaying them with either money or a kind gesture is another thing. To only hang with your supposed friends if only YOU get something free out of it such as free travel, food, and all the other crap is a bit extreme and unfair to me, especially if you knowingly hang with them knowing that they have feelings for you and it will lead them on, even after you told them you're not trying to date? That's just flat out manipulative. And I've told my guy friends to just stop doing it too. They're pretty stupid themselves for dealing with that kinda crap.
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Posted by aquarius_beautyThese friends? early to late 20s.Posted by earlorg16Upbringing, culture, age, and environment plays a part as well. They sound young tbh what's their age?
Hopefully they mature, I don't doubt that Leo's can be giving at all, just the ones that I know are you know, not there yet.click to expand
Posted by aquarius_beautyso so true. I hate social media so much. and yeah, we're all in NYC. LolPosted by rockyroadicecreamEspecially living a Social Media type of world. But you see it worst in individuals who live in the Big Cities.Posted by aquarius_beauty
Un-evolved individuals will always show the most negative traits of a sign. It happens in all signs.
Exactly. Like I've said before, with the way society has been conditioned to be babied and encourages immaturity, we see a lot more of it anymore.
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Posted by earlorg16No. I only chill with people who are down for me.Posted by LadyNeptuneHah, not all of my friends are like this, so no I don't think I have crap taste in friends. We all have mature and immature friends no?Posted by earlorg16I think you just have shit taste in friends. You've surrounded yourself with users. Don't try to understand their behavior, cut yourself free.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI've had my experiences with Leo girls already and I don't really plan on going back. Again, I'm just pointing out experiences my friends have had with them and pointing out trends. Not looking for personal advice, just seeing if others can relate to this sorta behavior or have seen this themselves.Posted by earlorg16Just tell them how would you feel if someone used you like that?Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeLOL, oh yeah I do. I'm the most honest, blunt guy in my group and people take things I say the wrong way but I just tell it like it is. I tell them that it's okay for a friend to treat once in a while at the most, but to have your friend pay for your cab rides, ticket fares, meals, clothes, etc, ALL THE F'N time is not exactly what a friend should do for you and they're just like, "well then they should stop doing that then right?" and i tell them, "it doesn't help that you're only hanging with dudes that are into you, and you Know they're into you now does it?" and they're just silent about it. The response I get is, "well I tell them i'm not trying to date though." and i respond with, "that still doesn't make it okay to expect them to pay for you all the time especially when you, yourself, know your true intent and have already stated it to them." just breaking hearts left and right and they come to me and complain about it...Posted by earlorg16Do you tell them this?Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeUm, I don't want anything from them besides honesty and listing their intent. This however, has nothing to do with me and more to do with how some of my leo friends have been towards other dudes. The leo women friends I have talk to me about their issues all the time and I'm just confused by their actions a good amount and how they lead guys on. I don't think it's right to flirt with your friends, then tell them you're not into dating, then expect them to pay for everything and get upset at them if they don't. Exactly how is that being a friend? LolPosted by earlorg16what's your point, what do you want from them? I love getting things for FREE tho, i aint going to lie, i will make a persons ears bleed for a discount or to get into something for free, but i always thought that was my Crab miser ways. but if you expect something it happens, miraculously, like i want to get into a concert, i get inPosted by rockyroadicecreamSeems like they can be both independent and total leeches? Another trend I noticed is that the ones I know like to date guys that totally mistreat them or don't really give them much at all? It's weird, their ex's mistreated them emotionally by cheating and such, and didn't give them much attention or didn't romanticize them much. To go with that, the Leo girls would pay for Everything when it came to their ex's. How does any of this make sense? True enigmas these women. I do like em though still, but I don't understand their logic sometimes.
YEP. Total users and leeches.
Not all, but it's frequent enough to notice a trend.
They're either independent or total leeches and expect to be taken care of.
as a crab with 4 leo placements, i like the challenge of men i can't control...
i can't speak for leo women
but i get their argument as well
I've told some of the Leo's that do this, "would you pay for everything for your friend to hang with you?" and their response was a "no." and I told them, "Yeah I thought so, so why is it okay to do that to them then?"
Look, who Doesn't like free things? I think we all do, but to get free things at the expense of your friends without repaying them with either money or a kind gesture is another thing. To only hang with your supposed friends if only YOU get something free out of it such as free travel, food, and all the other crap is a bit extreme and unfair to me, especially if you knowingly hang with them knowing that they have feelings for you and it will lead them on, even after you told them you're not trying to date? That's just flat out manipulative. And I've told my guy friends to just stop doing it too. They're pretty stupid themselves for dealing with that kinda crap.
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Time to cut the immaturity out of your life.
Posted by LadyNeptuneThanks for the solid.Posted by earlorg16No. I only chill with people who are down for me.Posted by LadyNeptuneHah, not all of my friends are like this, so no I don't think I have crap taste in friends. We all have mature and immature friends no?Posted by earlorg16I think you just have shit taste in friends. You've surrounded yourself with users. Don't try to understand their behavior, cut yourself free.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI've had my experiences with Leo girls already and I don't really plan on going back. Again, I'm just pointing out experiences my friends have had with them and pointing out trends. Not looking for personal advice, just seeing if others can relate to this sorta behavior or have seen this themselves.Posted by earlorg16Just tell them how would you feel if someone used you like that?Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeLOL, oh yeah I do. I'm the most honest, blunt guy in my group and people take things I say the wrong way but I just tell it like it is. I tell them that it's okay for a friend to treat once in a while at the most, but to have your friend pay for your cab rides, ticket fares, meals, clothes, etc, ALL THE F'N time is not exactly what a friend should do for you and they're just like, "well then they should stop doing that then right?" and i tell them, "it doesn't help that you're only hanging with dudes that are into you, and you Know they're into you now does it?" and they're just silent about it. The response I get is, "well I tell them i'm not trying to date though." and i respond with, "that still doesn't make it okay to expect them to pay for you all the time especially when you, yourself, know your true intent and have already stated it to them." just breaking hearts left and right and they come to me and complain about it...Posted by earlorg16Do you tell them this?Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeUm, I don't want anything from them besides honesty and listing their intent. This however, has nothing to do with me and more to do with how some of my leo friends have been towards other dudes. The leo women friends I have talk to me about their issues all the time and I'm just confused by their actions a good amount and how they lead guys on. I don't think it's right to flirt with your friends, then tell them you're not into dating, then expect them to pay for everything and get upset at them if they don't. Exactly how is that being a friend? LolPosted by earlorg16what's your point, what do you want from them? I love getting things for FREE tho, i aint going to lie, i will make a persons ears bleed for a discount or to get into something for free, but i always thought that was my Crab miser ways. but if you expect something it happens, miraculously, like i want to get into a concert, i get inPosted by rockyroadicecreamSeems like they can be both independent and total leeches? Another trend I noticed is that the ones I know like to date guys that totally mistreat them or don't really give them much at all? It's weird, their ex's mistreated them emotionally by cheating and such, and didn't give them much attention or didn't romanticize them much. To go with that, the Leo girls would pay for Everything when it came to their ex's. How does any of this make sense? True enigmas these women. I do like em though still, but I don't understand their logic sometimes.
YEP. Total users and leeches.
Not all, but it's frequent enough to notice a trend.
They're either independent or total leeches and expect to be taken care of.
as a crab with 4 leo placements, i like the challenge of men i can't control...
i can't speak for leo women
but i get their argument as well
I've told some of the Leo's that do this, "would you pay for everything for your friend to hang with you?" and their response was a "no." and I told them, "Yeah I thought so, so why is it okay to do that to them then?"
Look, who Doesn't like free things? I think we all do, but to get free things at the expense of your friends without repaying them with either money or a kind gesture is another thing. To only hang with your supposed friends if only YOU get something free out of it such as free travel, food, and all the other crap is a bit extreme and unfair to me, especially if you knowingly hang with them knowing that they have feelings for you and it will lead them on, even after you told them you're not trying to date? That's just flat out manipulative. And I've told my guy friends to just stop doing it too. They're pretty stupid themselves for dealing with that kinda crap.
Time to cut the immaturity out of your life.click to expand
Posted by aquarius_beautyYeah at this point I just tell the guys to stop being so ignorant and throwing their money out at them like that. It's stupid at this point, there's no need to deal with that kind of crap.Posted by earlorg16Hmmm.. that makes sense. They're young and immature and have a lot of growing up to do. Wouldn't be surprised their still in the YOLO stage and partying and living it up. Spending someone else's money.
so so true. I hate social media so much. and yeah, we're all in NYC. Lol
yeah it might take a while...or possibly never.click to expand
Waiting till you arrive at the event, and then
asking for payment, when you had initially
invited and offered to pay is a bitch move.
Vindictive too... and judging by the tone of the
post-- probably a bit malicious.
I would have purchased the second ticket and
given it to him as a parting gift, to give some
one else after I left.
It's not about the money-- some people just
don't seem to be able to understand that.
asking for payment, when you had initially
invited and offered to pay is a bitch move.
Vindictive too... and judging by the tone of the
post-- probably a bit malicious.
I would have purchased the second ticket and
given it to him as a parting gift, to give some
one else after I left.
It's not about the money-- some people just
don't seem to be able to understand that.
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