I thought Leo liked to lead....?

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So, everything I've ever read about Leo men is that they like to be in control, to be the dominate ones in a relationship. I guess every person is different regardless of charts. I've found my Leo to be very much the opposite. He likes me to make the plans, I had to make first move for kiss etc, takes a backseat to me when we are out, really allows me to kind of be center stage, so to speak. He is observant and i'm definitely the more flamboyant one, he likes to sit back and watch.

He also has only dated Libra women in his long-term relationships (his mother and I have same birthday. They are very close), he says they are very aggressive and that he has always felt like he was in the "feminine" role in the relationship, if we are speaking in societal terms. He is very masculine, extremely straight-forward, complimentary, definitely confident and very stern about his work schedule. He is also forth-coming that he can have a problem with jealousy, that it is his weakness in relationships. Its only been like 7 or 8 dates, but I can tell he LIKES when I am dominate. Its attractive to him, especially when I kind of "set him straight".... Typical Leo descriptions don't really come off that way. I know they say they like "strong women", but he seems to want to sit back completely. His chart is fiery as hell, too. He is also 3rd Decan, theyre supposed to be alpha Leo's!

Is this normal? Im not complaining by any means. Just curious.

Sun Leo in house 9

Moon Leo in house 8

Mercury Virgo house 9

Venus Leo in house 8

Mars Scorpio in house 11
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Posted by -7hz

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He doesn't seem like a pushover, he very much carries himself with dignity. He just isnt like any of the other Leo's ive dated.... which is weird, because his chart is VERY Leo. The ego is there, though. hahaha


How long have you been together?
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We've been talking for a year. Still very early in dating... like 8 dates only. So, this might change I take it.
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North Node same as True Node? Its in Cancer. I'm not familiar with Nodes.

He is wonderful! I am in no way complaining about him. I just was expecting something much different when I pulled his chart originally.


Take note of Scorpio Mars & North Node in Cancer, his Mars trines NN, he is most definitely going to be some way into the NN.
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You mean taking on the characteristics of Cancer?
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Do you want to hear the absolute TRUTH?

Can you handle it?


Yes and yes!


Forget the astrology and think about a LION

A lion wants to be fawned over, wants to be treated like royalty

Is he less of a leader? No

But his tests are does this person really want me....if so they'll work for it...they'll work for me...

Its an Exchange of Energy

Personally if I am attracted to someone, it doesn't mean i have to exchange my energy with them, especially if I notice they don't treat me right or talk to me the way I want or approach me how i want.

that's the leadership...then comes the cut which is swift and complete.

By you leading the relationship he observes you - he see's you care enough - that makes him feel good -powerful - satisfied

a lion likes to be satisfied...thats our completeness

Check that video you tagged me in, that explains everything.
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I can see that completely.

I called him out on testing me. He will say stuff that I KNOW, he knows the answer to, just to listen to my reply. It was so obvious! haha I let him do it for a few dates, then called him out. He sent me a text later apologizing. It was nothing serious... just for sure testing me! haha
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North Node same as True Node? Its in Cancer. I'm not familiar with Nodes.

He is wonderful! I am in no way complaining about him. I just was expecting something much different when I pulled his chart originally.


Take note of Scorpio Mars & North Node in Cancer, his Mars trines NN, he is most definitely going to be some way into the NN.


You mean taking on the characteristics of Cancer?


In some ways, but the Node is about karmic debts, he is becoming less whatever he was in his previous life, so Capricorn is his South Node, most likely a powerful person who took charge, over used his power, did wrong things.

Now returning to humble roots.

It's more so reconnecting with the soul.
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Oh, that is so interesting! Mine is in Taurus. I'm going to delve into Nodes now!
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Sounds similar to the last Leo I had a relationship with but, he got very fustrated when I wouldn't lead. I am lazy in romance so when I couldn't, wouldn't make plans... lion's roar, literally. He was all fixed: Leo Sun, Scorpio Moon, Mars Taurus, Leo Venus... all I can recall at this moment. I think he musta thought he was being cute or that I was being cute. I am almost all air so getting me to make plans, just lol. Sometimes, I thought his behavior was just as lazy lion as my indecisive, non-commital airy ways. At the end, he adjusted to the fact the he was gonna have to lead. Even when it came to intimacy, I do not and have never made the first move in anyway. This Leo liked to explode on himself waiting on me. Once, he got to know me, that you will have to lead...he ate me alive out of sheer fustration, lol.

Leo's can be armchair rulers. They pick and choose what they will be firm about. Sometimes, it's a set-up, let you do all the things that don't necessarily matter to them one way or another so that when they do take a stand, the case will be made about the fact that they let you have your way.
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Sounds similar to the last Leo I had a relationship with but, he got very fustrated when I wouldn't lead. I am lazy in romance so when I couldn't, wouldn't make plans... lion's roar, literally. He was all fixed: Leo Sun, Scorpio Moon, Mars Taurus, Leo Venus... all I can recall at this moment. I think he musta thought he was being cute or that I was being cute. I am almost all air so getting me to make plans, just lol. Sometimes, I thought his behavior was just as lazy lion as my indecisive, non-commital airy ways. At the end, he adjusted to the fact the he was gonna have to lead. Even when it came to intimacy, I do not and have never made the first move in anyway. This Leo liked to explode on himself waiting on me. Once, he got to know me, that you will have to lead...he ate me alive out of sheer fustration, lol.

Leo's can be armchair rulers. They pick and choose what they will be firm about. Sometimes, it's a set-up, let you do all the things that don't necessarily matter to them one way or another so that when they do take a stand, the case will be made about the fact that they let you have your way.


OMG! Same! I am waiting for him to make a move physically. He seems so timid... but I KNOW he isnt. You can sense his sexuality smoldering underneath the surface. He just doesnt.... and I'm not going to either! I'm Virgo Venus/ Mars I dont make first moves in that area.

Also, that last part about the set-up.... that is smart. I can appreciate the game. haha
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Posted by HearttofTopazz

I think it’s as simple as he likes you a lot, and enjoys your company.. Doesn’t matter what y’all are doing, he’s content either way. I’ve dated a lot of men like this, they were very easy going.

If it bothers you then just tell him you’re out of ideas and ask him to make the plans next time.


It doesnt bother me at all. I actually feel most comfortable when I'm more in control, probably due to my over-analytical nature. I guess I was just thinking Leo Fire would be a lot more like Aries. When I pulled that chart I was like "here we goooo".

He is charming and lovely.
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What are the aspects to his Leo Sun?


Sun Sextile Saturn 6°11

Sun Square Uranus 6°06

Sun Trine Neptune 0°08

Sun Sextile Pluto 0°09

Sun Square Ascendant 6°21

Moon Conjunction Venus 1°57

Moon Square Mars 2°27

Moon Square Jupiter 1°55

Moon Trine Uranus 5°22

Moon Trine Ascendant 5°07

Venus Square Mars 4°24

Venus Square Jupiter 0°01

Venus Trine Uranus 3°25

Venus Trine Ascendant 3°10

Mars Conjunction Jupiter 4°22

Uranus Conjunction Ascendant 0°15

Neptune Sextile Pluto
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What are the aspects to his Leo Sun?


Sun Sextile Saturn 6°11

Sun Square Uranus 6°06

Sun Trine Neptune 0°08

Sun Sextile Pluto 0°09

Sun Square Ascendant 6°21

Moon Conjunction Venus 1°57

Moon Square Mars 2°27

Moon Square Jupiter 1°55

Moon Trine Uranus 5°22

Moon Trine Ascendant 5°07

Venus Square Mars 4°24

Venus Square Jupiter 0°01

Venus Trine Uranus 3°25

Venus Trine Ascendant 3°10

Mars Conjunction Jupiter 4°22

Uranus Conjunction Ascendant 0°15

Neptune Sextile Pluto
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I can't say what would make him the sub
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Sounds similar to the last Leo I had a relationship with but, he got very fustrated when I wouldn't lead. I am lazy in romance so when I couldn't, wouldn't make plans... lion's roar, literally. He was all fixed: Leo Sun, Scorpio Moon, Mars Taurus, Leo Venus... all I can recall at this moment. I think he musta thought he was being cute or that I was being cute. I am almost all air so getting me to make plans, just lol. Sometimes, I thought his behavior was just as lazy lion as my indecisive, non-commital airy ways. At the end, he adjusted to the fact the he was gonna have to lead. Even when it came to intimacy, I do not and have never made the first move in anyway. This Leo liked to explode on himself waiting on me. Once, he got to know me, that you will have to lead...he ate me alive out of sheer fustration, lol.

Leo's can be armchair rulers. They pick and choose what they will be firm about. Sometimes, it's a set-up, let you do all the things that don't necessarily matter to them one way or another so that when they do take a stand, the case will be made about the fact that they let you have your way.


OMG! Same! I am waiting for him to make a move physically. He seems so timid... but I KNOW he isnt. You can sense his sexuality smoldering underneath the surface. He just doesnt.... and I'm not going to either! I'm Virgo Venus/ Mars I dont make first moves in that area.

Also, that last part about the set-up.... that is smart. I can appreciate the game. haha
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But see, you kissed him. I wouldn't have even done that. I'm a natural coquette. I discovered this about myself in hindsight and with the observations of others. I break them down with my passivity. Before, I knew this about myself, I was always shocked and offended when men would be simmering with me.

But now, I know myself and revel in my coquettish ways. It makes them explode at the end of it all and they are quite thankful that I got them there.

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What are the aspects to his Leo Sun?


Sun Sextile Saturn 6°11

Sun Square Uranus 6°06

Sun Trine Neptune 0°08

Sun Sextile Pluto 0°09

Sun Square Ascendant 6°21

Moon Conjunction Venus 1°57

Moon Square Mars 2°27

Moon Square Jupiter 1°55

Moon Trine Uranus 5°22

Moon Trine Ascendant 5°07

Venus Square Mars 4°24

Venus Square Jupiter 0°01

Venus Trine Uranus 3°25

Venus Trine Ascendant 3°10

Mars Conjunction Jupiter 4°22

Uranus Conjunction Ascendant 0°15

Neptune Sextile Pluto
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Really good synastry there. The best I've seen posted in a while.
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Scorpio is a feminine sign .... in Mars it isn't combative.....sexual yes, but not outgoing. Scopio energy is internal


Yes. People think Scorpios are like Hulk "Smash Smash Smash!" but no that's more like Aries.
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Yes Mars is far more out there than Pluto, I've Aries rising so am more assertive than say my Scorp friends who have Cancer or Scorpio rising
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This is still SO new. He might just be being chivalrous and sitting back, then a month from now- BAM! hahaha. But he does describe himself as the sub in relationships.

I was expecting he'd be like this Leo I work with. OVER THE TOP. Not at all.

Either way, I like him. Just not what I envisioned his chart to show.


This is a BDSM reference... "describing himself as a sub?" Well, you know who has the power in that relationship, right?
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This is still SO new. He might just be being chivalrous and sitting back, then a month from now- BAM! hahaha. But he does describe himself as the sub in relationships.

I was expecting he'd be like this Leo I work with. OVER THE TOP. Not at all.

Either way, I like him. Just not what I envisioned his chart to show.


This is a BDSM reference... "describing himself as a sub?" Well, you know who has the power in that relationship, right?
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Topping from the bottom, the leo way lol
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Not trying to bash Leos by saying this but if there is something that overrides any fixed-sign tendencies (wanting to be in control, etc) is their absolute and sure laziness. Think of the Lion; what is it that he does most of the time even though it's considered King of the Jungle? Right, he just sits on it's ass.


lol exactly and lets the females do the hunting but then he gets to eat first - basically they like to eat first and fuck so there !
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Scorpio is a feminine sign .... in Mars it isn't combative.....sexual yes, but not outgoing. Scopio energy is internal


it just wants anal.


Really? 😐


Get used to these type of remarks as a Scorpio. I'm not even a Scorpio but still get so much triggered when people say 'Scorpios = sex' lol they're so much more than that.
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Haha....I don't get triggered, I just think the stereotypes are funny, but do hold some truth too
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A few things:

Yes we like to lead, but we also like partners who can lead as well. Leos don't always run straight at you. A lot of Leos also like to observe, sometimes quietly. A wise Leo will look before they leap into a situation, so it's best to sometimes appear a bit more passive while everyone else reveals their cards.

It's possible he's just more docile, or doesn't know how to be dominant. It happens, not all Leos are built the same. If he hasn't had much luck in relationships, he may not want to create too many issues. So he may resort to keeping things calm.

Also his Scorpio Mars means the he won't be terribly obvious in his pursuit. His approach to life may seems a bit more covert. Scorpio energy isn't know to be "in your face", so the Leo may resort to having a more standoffish approach to get what he wants in life.

Also every 3rd decan Leo I've known can be old fashioned, but also more passive in romance. Not to say they won't pursue (they definitely will), but the ones I've known were attracted to strong/take charge personalities in women. This is because 3rd decan Leos have Leo-Aries energy. A woman who tells them what to do at times can be attractive to them.
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They lead but it's a more subtle way they go about it imo ...like others have mentioned, think about an actual Lion...let's the women do all the work, let's them think they have the lead but in the end he'll have the final say (just try getting one to do something he doesn't want to do lol)...it's not always gonna be right in your face noticable (especially with the plutonic influences). The rest of the time...he doesn't really want to be bothered because it will cut into his time....why should he have to worry about the mundane when he has his "people" to do all that. Plus it keeps the peace, keeps the good times rolling for them...they don't want anything to shit on their parade so to speak then heaven forbid they have to actually do something lol.

How is he in public with you? Does he lead then or is he still submissive? I noticed the Leo I dealt with let it be known in public that he was the man...he was in charge (go get us that table over there, what do you want to drink, go get me another drink etc...like barking orders...and of course I followed suit 🙄. In private...he was more docile but still had his moments of being the leader/bossy. Just recently...I bought a new TV and a sound bar...I didn't hook up the sound bar yet as the TV was pretty loud on it's own...he comes over and he's like...why didn't you hook that up? Then grabbed the box and was like you need to hook this up, opens the box (cuts his hand...I play doctor while he's like no I'm good while sticking out his hand so I can put a band-aid on the cut lol), I just don't understand why you haven't hooked this up yet 😂, takes it out of the box, hands it to me and says well go hook it up now but then helps me do it even though I told him I was going to take it back to the store. Lol

Imo their downfall in relationships is the whole give and take aspect...they usually realize this a little too late. They think paying for dates, presents etc is really putting in an effort and giving so much...that's great and all but what about the things that actually matter...what are you gonna do then?! Just don't let him get used to you doing everything...that will be the expectation and eventually you'll get sick of it.

It's great when men respect their mothers but I find it disturbing when they are super close to them... you'll always have to compete and the mom is gonna play a major role in the relationship. I'm extra cautious in those cases...of course I could be way off on all of this lol.

Let me add to my book I've written lol...the sensitivity on these mf when their pride and ego are hurt ...my God, they are worse then cancer men!