the fact that othrr than a couple of males friends he follows 700 women on insta who are complete randoms makes me think he's looking elswher or something. I just find it weird.
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You two are not meant for each other and should part ways.
He seems immature and you seem like a very jealous person.
He seems immature and you seem like a very jealous person.
Posted by candy10He's been single. He can do whatever he wants. Stop being a jealous control freakPosted by lionsparkthe fact that othrr than a couple of males friends he follows 700 women on insta who are complete randoms makes me think he's looking elswher or something. I just find it weird.
Hmmm...what is your sign
If leos are let down too many times, it can lead to that kind of behaviour.
You should not be comparing yourself with exes it will only hurt you in the long run. at this moment you are the one he's dating, thats all that should matter. It however doesnt mean you shouldnt improve yourself.
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Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
Posted by ChuckcemThe cows will never come home with this one bud.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex it's a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.click to expand
Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.click to expand
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
Posted by candy10You're so friendzoned you don't even know you're friendzoned.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etcclick to expand
Posted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etcclick to expand
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
Posted by Chuckcemok fair enough I see your point. I suppose I'll unblock him in another week and.go from therePosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.click to expand
Posted by Chuckcemsorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interestedPosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.click to expand
Posted by candy10Hey girl you are thinking too much into it..i know because i was exacly like you. I can totally relate to you but i suggest u go with the flow....allow yourself to love completely and let yourself be loved. It's clear he likes you and cares about you but he is guarded because he feels limited with you. He doesn't feel he can completely be himself because maybe he wanna spread u with affection but since he knows you are not the gushy type he pulls back. Start showing him more attention and affection and let us know what happens. And please try to show your emotions...if you are not happy about whatever bad comment hes throwing at you let him know immediately. If you feel like loving him and spreading affection to him do it. Because if you pull back he will also pull back. Don't be selfish. Tell him you don't feel as loved as you felt at the beginning of the relationship...again COMMUNICATION is the key. Be yourself and talk things out. Don't think it's gonna make you look annoying or make you look a certain way nooo...leos wants and crave for sincere attention and honesty. Again emotional and physical connection is important to him. I don't think he feels open in this relationship because there is a lack of that physical connection. It is really gonna be hard. I remember i didn't wanna date anymore any other guy when i was virgin because it would always be a very big issue with most guys i was dating. But i finally gave in for my leo because i feel i have a special connection with him and he's like my other half. So think about it....do you really love this leo guy so much? Do you see yourself with him more than any other guy? Do you feel comfortable around him? Then if all the answers are yes...go with the flow and let your mind rest. Talk to him and let him know every behavior you don't like about him...tell him you are willing to invest in this relationship if hes willing to put in more efforts. Tell him you will have sex with him when you will feel ready and it will depend on his actions...the way he treats you. If he really shows he loves you.Posted by Chuckcemsorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interestedPosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.click to expand
I'm pretty sure you can tell if he likes you or not use that intuition i know you have it then let things flow as it's supposed to go. You must first make sure YOU REALLY LOVE HIM cuz i feel like you are uncertain. Then Goodluck let us know the outcome.
Blessings.
P.s: Stop mentionning about other guys he might not show hes jealous but deep down i know he is cuz he insults them. Leos hate competition they want to feel that they have you all to themselves.
Posted by Moonlover02I know it's easier said than done though lol. I mean if I opened up to him at the start when he did I think maybe it.would have been a different story but it's gone on so long now like this that I think we've both become accustomed.to it. I don't know how to break that ice and suddenly start being someone im not lol. youre right he always says candy you're not the gushy type you're not into all that soppyness but I said at thr very least I'm used to it from.the guy..and then I might open up a little bit. what I'm not used to dping is being all over the guy initially..I'm not the one to start it off.Posted by candy10Hey girl you are thinking too much into it..i know because i was exacly like you. I can totally relate to you but i suggest u go with the flow....allow yourself to love completely and let yourself be loved. It's clear he likes you and cares about you but he is guarded because he feels limited with you. He doesn't feel he can completely be himself because maybe he wanna spread u with affection but since he knows you are not the gushy type he pulls back. Start showing him more attention and affection and let us know what happens. And please try to show your emotions...if you are not happy about whatever bad comment hes throwing at you let him know immediately. If you feel like loving him and spreading affection to him do it. Because if you pull back he will also pull back. Don't be selfish. Tell him you don't feel as loved as you felt at the beginning of the relationship...again COMMUNICATION is the key. Be yourself and talk things out. Don't think it's gonna make you look annoying or make you look a certain way nooo...leos wants and crave for sincere attention and honesty. Again emotional and physical connection is important to him. I don't think he feels open in this relationship because there is a lack of that physical connection. It is really gonna be hard. I remember i didn't wanna date anymore any other guy when i was virgin because it would always be a very big issue with most guys i was dating. But i finally gave in for my leo because i feel i have a special connection with him and he's like my other half. So think about it....do you really love this leo guy so much? Do you see yourself with him more than any other guy? Do you feel comfortable around him? Then if all the answers are yes...go with the flow and let your mind rest. Talk to him and let him know every behavior you don't like about him...tell him you are willing to invest in this relationship if hes willing to put in more efforts. Tell him you will have sex with him when you will feel ready and it will depend on his actions...the way he treats you. If he really shows he loves you.Posted by Chuckcemsorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interestedPosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
I'm pretty sure you can tell if he likes you or not use that intuition i know you have it then let things flow as it's supposed to go. You must first make sure YOU REALLY LOVE HIM cuz i feel like you are uncertain. Then Goodluck let us know the outcome.
Blessings.
P.s: Stop mentionning about other guys he might not show hes jealous but deep down i know he is cuz he insults them. Leos hate competition they want to feel that they have you all to themselves.
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it just doesn't help when he talks about other girls because then I think does he really like me and am I not good enough, I mean does he not think I am so that also puts me off.an thats when I mention other guys. and he doesn't even compliment me once yet he fishes for me to compliment him.hl br lik you like your men big and musclyy like me, and you know I'm better than all those.other guys you had. n im not one to massage his ego so I don't say anyting. he hasn't so much as even said im pretty or beautiful yet I'm heard that from evry other guy iv interacted with
his mentality is too much like I don't deserve to get those things.from him and even if I ask him favours he's like wel let's see what you do for me first
let me be blunt: make love to him. 🙂
Yeah I don't think this pairing is going anywhere fast but ?? Kudos if you can make it work
Wow the more I follow this...??♀️ He is soo disrespectful to you it's like he is literally forcing you to have sex with him through emotional manipulation by making you feel insecure so you can prove to him you are worth being with. I hope that made sense lol. Anyway, any guy who tells you he wishes he could get with another girl in front of you is like literally telling you to fuck off. Seriously... he doesn't care about your feelings one bit and that's why you keep playing mind games but it's a losing game with you as the biggest loser in this scenario. Please just leave him before he brings down your self worth anymore he's not into you. Try it for at least one day and see how you feel without his negative energy.
Posted by scoobydooolool wouldn't he love that it's just I don't wanna do that and then he ends up being the same as he is now
let me be blunt: make love to him. 🙂
Posted by MoonbutterI straight up just say it to him, like you're manipulating me lol, I gues he gone to desperate measures now but he forgets how strong I actually am and I don't take rubbish. maybe it would have worked on someone else but not me
Wow the more I follow this...??♀️ He is soo disrespectful to you it's like he is literally forcing you to have sex with him through emotional manipulation by making you feel insecure so you can prove to him you are worth being with. I hope that made sense lol. Anyway, any guy who tells you he wishes he could get with another girl in front of you is like literally telling you to fuck off. Seriously... he doesn't care about your feelings one bit and that's why you keep playing mind games but it's a losing game with you as the biggest loser in this scenario. Please just leave him before he brings down your self worth anymore he's not into you. Try it for at least one day and see how you feel without his negative energy.
the thing is normally he's.never gone as far as saying that about other girls..because in the past i would test him and be lik why don't you go for that girl or tis girl and he always says why would I need to I got candy. I got you..I think that day maybe it's because we were talking about my ex and fr some reason he thought I was upset about the ex the whole day even though I wasn't and that was his way of being spiteful or testing me.
yea im fine without him but at times I feel bad for.some reason..especially because I know it's his birthday aswell. but I thought let me go one step furrt her and ignore him on his bday and perhaps make him feel a little portion of how I felt all these weeks. I.e neglected. That's if he still cares.nt even too long ago wen we first got together and he told me he liked me it would really upset him if I iddnt do anythibg for his birthday .
Posted by candy10Do you adore him? Do you want to care for him? Make love to him? That's what it takes to get through the bs.Posted by MoonbutterI straight up just say it to him, like you're manipulating me lol, I gues he gone to desperate measures now but he forgets how strong I actually am and I don't take rubbish. maybe it would have worked on someone else but not me
Wow the more I follow this...??♀️ He is soo disrespectful to you it's like he is literally forcing you to have sex with him through emotional manipulation by making you feel insecure so you can prove to him you are worth being with. I hope that made sense lol. Anyway, any guy who tells you he wishes he could get with another girl in front of you is like literally telling you to fuck off. Seriously... he doesn't care about your feelings one bit and that's why you keep playing mind games but it's a losing game with you as the biggest loser in this scenario. Please just leave him before he brings down your self worth anymore he's not into you. Try it for at least one day and see how you feel without his negative energy.
the thing is normally he's.never gone as far as saying that about other girls..because in the past i would test him and be lik why don't you go for that girl or tis girl and he always says why would I need to I got candy. I got you..I think that day maybe it's because we were talking about my ex and fr some reason he thought I was upset about the ex the whole day even though I wasn't and that was his way of being spiteful or testing me.
yea im fine without him but at times I feel bad for.some reason..especially because I know it's his birthday aswell. but I thought let me go one step furrt her and ignore him on his bday and perhaps make him feel a little portion of how I felt all these weeks. I.e neglected. That's if he still cares.nt even too long ago wen we first got together and he told me he liked me it would really upset him if I iddnt do anythibg for his birthday .click to expand
Posted by tizianiYup, its just completely toxic at this point ?
Just sounds like you need to find more self confidence/belief, and be encouraged by people around you to find that. The Leo doesn't sound he's built that way. He mirrors your worst habits until you're both spending time just thinking of how to punish each other rather than how to genuinely work it out.
Posted by MoonbutterI'd say yes to all that but the more he's doing what he's.doing it's making me.resent him really an feel less lik that way about himPosted by candy10Do you adore him? Do you want to care for him? Make love to him? That's what it takes to get through the bs.Posted by MoonbutterI straight up just say it to him, like you're manipulating me lol, I gues he gone to desperate measures now but he forgets how strong I actually am and I don't take rubbish. maybe it would have worked on someone else but not me
Wow the more I follow this...??♀️ He is soo disrespectful to you it's like he is literally forcing you to have sex with him through emotional manipulation by making you feel insecure so you can prove to him you are worth being with. I hope that made sense lol. Anyway, any guy who tells you he wishes he could get with another girl in front of you is like literally telling you to fuck off. Seriously... he doesn't care about your feelings one bit and that's why you keep playing mind games but it's a losing game with you as the biggest loser in this scenario. Please just leave him before he brings down your self worth anymore he's not into you. Try it for at least one day and see how you feel without his negative energy.
the thing is normally he's.never gone as far as saying that about other girls..because in the past i would test him and be lik why don't you go for that girl or tis girl and he always says why would I need to I got candy. I got you..I think that day maybe it's because we were talking about my ex and fr some reason he thought I was upset about the ex the whole day even though I wasn't and that was his way of being spiteful or testing me.
yea im fine without him but at times I feel bad for.some reason..especially because I know it's his birthday aswell. but I thought let me go one step furrt her and ignore him on his bday and perhaps make him feel a little portion of how I felt all these weeks. I.e neglected. That's if he still cares.nt even too long ago wen we first got together and he told me he liked me it would really upset him if I iddnt do anythibg for his birthday .click to expand
Posted by tizianidon't get me wrong I have a lot of self confidence but even the most self confident person may get knocked back the way he's being...ye he jst can't be nice to me lik he was to the previous women. clearly he can't. not in the same way I mean. fair enough we have a laugh but I can do that with any of my other.friends.but from an other half km looking for a lot more than that support, affection, love, reassurance, kindness
Just sounds like you need to find more self confidence/belief, and be encouraged by people around you to find that. The Leo doesn't sound he's built that way. He mirrors your worst habits until you're both spending time just thinking of how to punish each other rather than how to genuinely work it out.
Posted by MoonbutterI almost felt bad for not messaging him on his birthday since unlike him I have a heart lol. bt then I remembered the cruel words he said befre I stopped speaking to him and that's what kept me.stubbornPosted by tizianiYup, its just completely toxic at this point ?
Just sounds like you need to find more self confidence/belief, and be encouraged by people around you to find that. The Leo doesn't sound he's built that way. He mirrors your worst habits until you're both spending time just thinking of how to punish each other rather than how to genuinely work it out.click to expand
Girl he needs sex, you aren't giving it. Let him go cause he's gonna dump you anyways sooner or later. And you my dear gotta find a virgin boy, who's less interested in sex. That's like 2 times 2 equals 4. Sex means a lot, that's how you bond with another person on a deeper level, you guys got nothing, except beating bushes around. Did he ever talk to you about marriage and stuff? If not you ain't going anywhere no matter how hard you try period
And I feel like he doesn't even take you seriously. I can't blame him, some people want all or nothing. And how does he know even if you guys ever get married that you will be the one he is attracted to sexually? How do you know your capabilities? Are you sure you can satisfy him? OMG what a burden, this won't work SMH
Posted by candy10I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.Posted by Chuckcemsorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interestedPosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.click to expand
Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.
Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.
Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
guess what everyone he keeps upload pictures in instagram of him going out..to clubs..clesrly he's distraught at my.departure ?
and he hardly ever did that when I was around...now all of a sudden he's putting up a photo a day at least.. I can feel the love so much ...sense my.sarcasm
Posted by ChuckcemWell with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.Posted by candy10I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.Posted by Chuckcemsorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interestedPosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.
Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.
Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.click to expand
Posted by pisceanlovesye he said that love is physical and.mental that it has to be both not one or the other, I tested him last week and said that I'll set him up with my.friend..and he was lik I got you so I don't need two.. but that was just me seeing his reaction and to c how he feels about me..so that's wt he said
And I feel like he doesn't even take you seriously. I can't blame him, some people want all or nothing. And how does he know even if you guys ever get married that you will be the one he is attracted to sexually? How do you know your capabilities? Are you sure you can satisfy him? OMG what a burden, this won't work SMH
with regards to marriage he makes random comments yes..like he will say show this photo to your mum ask her what she thinks of me, and he said stuff like he doesn't want a big wedding and I said these days evryone does..like evry woman would.want a big celebrationn and he said I'll just stick with you then shall I..Lik they are serious comments but thr.delivery is lighthearted if that makes sense.
if you read my last post I was.saying how ever since I left him a week ago all he's been doing is going out and uploading photos on instagram..Lik one after another. he never did that or hardly ever when I was around.. *rolls eyes*
Musiqsoulchild half crazy, it explains your situation to a T.
Posted by CrabNextDooroh ill check it out
Musiqsoulchild half crazy, it explains your situation to a T.
Posted by CrabNextDoorWow such a soulful song, ?, and youre right it really does ?☺, I'm half crazy lol. or maybe it's the guy but he's singing it at home ?
Musiqsoulchild half crazy, it explains your situation to a T.
Posted by candy10lol I think it's more of him! With Leo's their such children and will play games but their good at heart if you have the patiencePosted by CrabNextDoorWow such a soulful song, ?, and youre right it really does ?☺, I'm half crazy lol. or maybe it's the guy but he's singing it at home ?
Musiqsoulchild half crazy, it explains your situation to a T.click to expand
Posted by candy10lol I think it's more of him! With Leo's their such children and will play games but their good at heart if you have the patiencePosted by CrabNextDoorWow such a soulful song, ?, and youre right it really does ?☺, I'm half crazy lol. or maybe it's the guy but he's singing it at home ?
Musiqsoulchild half crazy, it explains your situation to a T.click to expand
Posted by CrabNextDoorPosted by candy10lol I think it's more of him! With Leo's their such children and will play games but their good at heart if you have the patiencePosted by CrabNextDoorWow such a soulful song, ?, and youre right it really does ?☺, I'm half crazy lol. or maybe it's the guy but he's singing it at home ?
Musiqsoulchild half crazy, it explains your situation to a T.click to expand
Well I want him to b crazy over me ??
so that's a good start.. ?. interesting you said that because he is definite ly a game player, in fact I actually fear, how I will b treated if I went back now. possibly he could ignore I exist even since I purposely ignored his birthday
Posted by candy10Posted by ChuckcemWell with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.Posted by candy10I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.Posted by Chuckcemsorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interestedPosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.
Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.
Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
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It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.
Posted by candy10Their to slow to be petty, he'll be nicer even because you made him feel like he couldn't have you, but not for long so play back with him if you want they like an endless chase and if your not looking for that I'd give you the go ahead to move on and don't let him know your jealous cuz it can get real bad! He'll do everything within his power to make you more jealousPosted by CrabNextDoorPosted by candy10lol I think it's more of him! With Leo's their such children and will play games but their good at heart if you have the patiencePosted by CrabNextDoorWow such a soulful song, ?, and youre right it really does ?☺, I'm half crazy lol. or maybe it's the guy but he's singing it at home ?
Musiqsoulchild half crazy, it explains your situation to a T.
Well I want him to b crazy over me ??
so that's a good start.. ?. interesting you said that because he is definite ly a game player, in fact I actually fear, how I will b treated if I went back now. possibly he could ignore I exist even since I purposely ignored his birthdayclick to expand
Posted by candy10I'm really sorry for you. Yeah I did read most of your comments. I don't know, you either give up your virginity or this guy.Posted by pisceanlovesye he said that love is physical and.mental that it has to be both not one or the other, I tested him last week and said that I'll set him up with my.friend..and he was lik I got you so I don't need two.. but that was just me seeing his reaction and to c how he feels about me..so that's wt he said
And I feel like he doesn't even take you seriously. I can't blame him, some people want all or nothing. And how does he know even if you guys ever get married that you will be the one he is attracted to sexually? How do you know your capabilities? Are you sure you can satisfy him? OMG what a burden, this won't work SMH
with regards to marriage he makes random comments yes..like he will say show this photo to your mum ask her what she thinks of me, and he said stuff like he doesn't want a big wedding and I said these days evryone does..like evry woman would.want a big celebrationn and he said I'll just stick with you then shall I..Lik they are serious comments but thr.delivery is lighthearted if that makes sense.
if you read my last post I was.saying how ever since I left him a week ago all he's been doing is going out and uploading photos on instagram..Lik one after another. he never did that or hardly ever when I was around.. *rolls eyes*click to expand
Posted by Chuckcemye maybe but he also said something about how he doesn't wanna b alone, like he can't guarantee I won't ditch him so he also kept her around, but anyway it's just weird. he kept saying he's my rebound after the prison guy. the thing is he didn't see the girl it was just a ldr, so anyone can talk over the phone it's not a big deal. but anyway all I know is he's clearly having fun without mePosted by candy10Posted by ChuckcemWell with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.Posted by candy10I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.Posted by Chuckcemsorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interestedPosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.
Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.
Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.click to expand
Posted by pisceanlovesPosted by candy10I'm really sorry for you. Yeah I did read most of your comments. I don't know, you either give up your virginity or this guy.Posted by pisceanlovesye he said that love is physical and.mental that it has to be both not one or the other, I tested him last week and said that I'll set him up with my.friend..and he was lik I got you so I don't need two.. but that was just me seeing his reaction and to c how he feels about me..so that's wt he said
And I feel like he doesn't even take you seriously. I can't blame him, some people want all or nothing. And how does he know even if you guys ever get married that you will be the one he is attracted to sexually? How do you know your capabilities? Are you sure you can satisfy him? OMG what a burden, this won't work SMH
with regards to marriage he makes random comments yes..like he will say show this photo to your mum ask her what she thinks of me, and he said stuff like he doesn't want a big wedding and I said these days evryone does..like evry woman would.want a big celebrationn and he said I'll just stick with you then shall I..Lik they are serious comments but thr.delivery is lighthearted if that makes sense.
if you read my last post I was.saying how ever since I left him a week ago all he's been doing is going out and uploading photos on instagram..Lik one after another. he never did that or hardly ever when I was around.. *rolls eyes*click to expand
I know. its a tough one. but I think I'd rather keep my beliefs in tact rather than compromise for a guy, it just seems like nothing to him since he's done it plenty of times before, he can't see where I'm coming from; but to.me it's more of a big deal
Posted by CrabNextDoorhmmmm, yes maybe hl b nice for a bit because he thought he lost me n then I reappear so hl make an effort , we've done all that time n time again all the games but it's been over a year now I dont reslly wAnna carry on, yeh I won't let.him know usually I cnt hold it in but this time when I go back ill be trying.to b a different person, not angry at.him just indifferent bt still friendly kinda like himPosted by candy10Their to slow to be petty, he'll be nicer even because you made him feel like he couldn't have you, but not for long so play back with him if you want they like an endless chase and if your not looking for that I'd give you the go ahead to move on and don't let him know your jealous cuz it can get real bad! He'll do everything within his power to make you more jealousPosted by CrabNextDoorPosted by candy10lol I think it's more of him! With Leo's their such children and will play games but their good at heart if you have the patiencePosted by CrabNextDoorWow such a soulful song, ?, and youre right it really does ?☺, I'm half crazy lol. or maybe it's the guy but he's singing it at home ?
Musiqsoulchild half crazy, it explains your situation to a T.
Well I want him to b crazy over me ??
so that's a good start.. ?. interesting you said that because he is definite ly a game player, in fact I actually fear, how I will b treated if I went back now. possibly he could ignore I exist even since I purposely ignored his birthdayclick to expand
I unblocked him and messaged happy belated.. he jst said thanks and nothing else. since we havnt spoken in ages he could have been like how are you. but no not him. ?unenthusiastic.
Posted by Chuckcemso I messaged him today happy birthday after.r tht he said thanks n then I asked him what he did and how it was..to c if.hl tell me he went clubbing, anyway gues what. he was logged in online clearly could see my messages but ignored me ...what a surprise. typical leo. why ignore me. its stupidPosted by candy10Posted by ChuckcemWell with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.Posted by candy10I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.Posted by Chuckcemsorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interestedPosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.
Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.
Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.click to expand
Posted by candy10Did you expect him to respond? Seeing that you've pulled the silent treatment maneuver on him a few times, it's highly likely he's repaying the favor. Either that or he's pulling the plug.Posted by Chuckcemso I messaged him today happy birthday after.r tht he said thanks n then I asked him what he did and how it was..to c if.hl tell me he went clubbing, anyway gues what. he was logged in online clearly could see my messages but ignored me ...what a surprise. typical leo. why ignore me. its stupidPosted by candy10Posted by ChuckcemWell with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.Posted by candy10I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.Posted by Chuckcemsorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interestedPosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.
Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.
Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.click to expand
Posted by Chuckcemactually that's the first time iv done it. he though has done it lots more in the past, tonnes more, once he did for five weeks and I'd wondered what I did. so yeh.Posted by candy10Did you expect him to respond? Seeing that you've pulled the silent treatment maneuver on him a few times, it's highly likely he's repaying the favor. Either that or he's pulling the plug.Posted by Chuckcemso I messaged him today happy birthday after.r tht he said thanks n then I asked him what he did and how it was..to c if.hl tell me he went clubbing, anyway gues what. he was logged in online clearly could see my messages but ignored me ...what a surprise. typical leo. why ignore me. its stupidPosted by candy10Posted by ChuckcemWell with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.Posted by candy10I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.Posted by Chuckcemsorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interestedPosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.
Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.
Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.click to expand
Posted by Chuckcemhe was in the wrong, what he said was out of order, therfore in my opinion he deserved the silent treatment, but I definetely do not.Posted by candy10Did you expect him to respond? Seeing that you've pulled the silent treatment maneuver on him a few times, it's highly likely he's repaying the favor. Either that or he's pulling the plug.Posted by Chuckcemso I messaged him today happy birthday after.r tht he said thanks n then I asked him what he did and how it was..to c if.hl tell me he went clubbing, anyway gues what. he was logged in online clearly could see my messages but ignored me ...what a surprise. typical leo. why ignore me. its stupidPosted by candy10Posted by ChuckcemWell with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.Posted by candy10I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.Posted by Chuckcemsorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interestedPosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.
Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.
Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.click to expand
Posted by ChuckcemPosted by candy10Did you expect him to respond? Seeing that you've pulled the silent treatment maneuver on him a few times, it's highly likely he's repaying the favor. Either that or he's pulling the plug.Posted by Chuckcemso I messaged him today happy birthday after.r tht he said thanks n then I asked him what he did and how it was..to c if.hl tell me he went clubbing, anyway gues what. he was logged in online clearly could see my messages but ignored me ...what a surprise. typical leo. why ignore me. its stupidPosted by candy10Posted by ChuckcemWell with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.Posted by candy10I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.Posted by Chuckcemsorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interestedPosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.
Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.
Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.click to expand
he should have welcomed me with open arms
Posted by candy10You said earlier that you gave him the silent treatment after you got angry that he lied about hanging out with his friends. Then you went silent on him when you broke things off.Posted by Chuckcemactually that's the first time iv done it. he though has done it lots more in the past, tonnes more, once he did for five weeks and I'd wondered what I did. so yeh.Posted by candy10Did you expect him to respond? Seeing that you've pulled the silent treatment maneuver on him a few times, it's highly likely he's repaying the favor. Either that or he's pulling the plug.Posted by Chuckcemso I messaged him today happy birthday after.r tht he said thanks n then I asked him what he did and how it was..to c if.hl tell me he went clubbing, anyway gues what. he was logged in online clearly could see my messages but ignored me ...what a surprise. typical leo. why ignore me. its stupidPosted by candy10Posted by ChuckcemWell with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.Posted by candy10I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.Posted by Chuckcemsorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interestedPosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.
Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.
Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.click to expand
Either way, it seems like your best bet is to let him go and find a stable relationship.
Posted by ChuckcemPosted by candy10You said earlier that you gave him the silent treatment after you got angry that he lied about hanging out with his friends. Then you went silent on him when you broke things off.Posted by Chuckcemactually that's the first time iv done it. he though has done it lots more in the past, tonnes more, once he did for five weeks and I'd wondered what I did. so yeh.Posted by candy10Did you expect him to respond? Seeing that you've pulled the silent treatment maneuver on him a few times, it's highly likely he's repaying the favor. Either that or he's pulling the plug.Posted by Chuckcemso I messaged him today happy birthday after.r tht he said thanks n then I asked him what he did and how it was..to c if.hl tell me he went clubbing, anyway gues what. he was logged in online clearly could see my messages but ignored me ...what a surprise. typical leo. why ignore me. its stupidPosted by candy10Posted by ChuckcemWell with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.Posted by candy10I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.Posted by Chuckcemsorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interestedPosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.
Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.
Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.
Either way, it seems like your best bet is to let him go and find a stable relationship.click to expand
no sorry I was wrong in saying that.. I was just like im not gonna do what I do anymore, you take advantage etc etc... just telling him his wrong doin
Posted by ChuckcemPosted by candy10You said earlier that you gave him the silent treatment after you got angry that he lied about hanging out with his friends. Then you went silent on him when you broke things off.Posted by Chuckcemactually that's the first time iv done it. he though has done it lots more in the past, tonnes more, once he did for five weeks and I'd wondered what I did. so yeh.Posted by candy10Did you expect him to respond? Seeing that you've pulled the silent treatment maneuver on him a few times, it's highly likely he's repaying the favor. Either that or he's pulling the plug.Posted by Chuckcemso I messaged him today happy birthday after.r tht he said thanks n then I asked him what he did and how it was..to c if.hl tell me he went clubbing, anyway gues what. he was logged in online clearly could see my messages but ignored me ...what a surprise. typical leo. why ignore me. its stupidPosted by candy10Posted by ChuckcemWell with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.Posted by candy10I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.Posted by Chuckcemsorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interestedPosted by candy10Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.Posted by ChuckcemI understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.Posted by candy10
im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??
erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you
he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.
with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have
@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.
You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.
@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.
I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.
Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.
Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.
Either way, it seems like your best bet is to let him go and find a stable relationship.click to expand
wrong doings***. and he was like don't worry calm down we'l go away together it'll all work out, so he tried to talk me round...I supose tis.time since I left him now that iv come back I have to maybe do the talking, I just don't know what to say though without looking a fool. other than I came back for my money well it is true he owes me money but tht might anger him further
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