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im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??

erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you

he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.

with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have

@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.

You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.

@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.

I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
I understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.

he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.

At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
sorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interested
I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.

Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.

Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.

Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
Well with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.



It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.
so I messaged him today happy birthday after.r tht he said thanks n then I asked him what he did and how it was..to c if.hl tell me he went clubbing, anyway gues what. he was logged in online clearly could see my messages but ignored me ...what a surprise. typical leo. why ignore me. its stupid
Did you expect him to respond? Seeing that you've pulled the silent treatment maneuver on him a few times, it's highly likely he's repaying the favor. Either that or he's pulling the plug.
actually that's the first time iv done it. he though has done it lots more in the past, tonnes more, once he did for five weeks and I'd wondered what I did. so yeh.
You said earlier that you gave him the silent treatment after you got angry that he lied about hanging out with his friends. Then you went silent on him when you broke things off.

Either way, it seems like your best bet is to let him go and find a stable relationship.
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now he's following some.ugly fake looking girl on insta. Oh wow yet another female follower. he's an idiot
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im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??

erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you

he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.

with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have

@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.

You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.

@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.

I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
I understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.

he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.

At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
sorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interested
I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.

Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.

Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.

Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
Well with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.



It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.
so I messaged him today happy birthday after.r tht he said thanks n then I asked him what he did and how it was..to c if.hl tell me he went clubbing, anyway gues what. he was logged in online clearly could see my messages but ignored me ...what a surprise. typical leo. why ignore me. its stupid
Did you expect him to respond? Seeing that you've pulled the silent treatment maneuver on him a few times, it's highly likely he's repaying the favor. Either that or he's pulling the plug.
actually that's the first time iv done it. he though has done it lots more in the past, tonnes more, once he did for five weeks and I'd wondered what I did. so yeh.
You said earlier that you gave him the silent treatment after you got angry that he lied about hanging out with his friends. Then you went silent on him when you broke things off.

Either way, it seems like your best bet is to let him go and find a stable relationship.
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stupid leo, doesn't even take a second to move on. ??
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im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??

erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you

he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.

with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have

@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.

You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.

@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.

I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
I understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.

he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.

At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
sorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interested
I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.

Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.

Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.

Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
Well with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.



It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.
so I messaged him today happy birthday after.r tht he said thanks n then I asked him what he did and how it was..to c if.hl tell me he went clubbing, anyway gues what. he was logged in online clearly could see my messages but ignored me ...what a surprise. typical leo. why ignore me. its stupid
Did you expect him to respond? Seeing that you've pulled the silent treatment maneuver on him a few times, it's highly likely he's repaying the favor. Either that or he's pulling the plug.
actually that's the first time iv done it. he though has done it lots more in the past, tonnes more, once he did for five weeks and I'd wondered what I did. so yeh.
You said earlier that you gave him the silent treatment after you got angry that he lied about hanging out with his friends. Then you went silent on him when you broke things off.

Either way, it seems like your best bet is to let him go and find a stable relationship.
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can I ask you something. is it just a coincidence that he knows three people on instagram with the same name as his ex? he says he broke it off with her because it's a long distance.relationship apparently. n all of a sudden like a day ago suddenly he's adding woman after women with her name. strange? I guess I'm just a good instagram spy lol
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im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??

erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you

he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.

with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have

@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.

You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.

@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.

I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
I understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.

he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.

At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
sorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interested
I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.

Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.

Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.

Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
Well with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.



It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.
so I messaged him today happy birthday after.r tht he said thanks n then I asked him what he did and how it was..to c if.hl tell me he went clubbing, anyway gues what. he was logged in online clearly could see my messages but ignored me ...what a surprise. typical leo. why ignore me. its stupid
Did you expect him to respond? Seeing that you've pulled the silent treatment maneuver on him a few times, it's highly likely he's repaying the favor. Either that or he's pulling the plug.
actually that's the first time iv done it. he though has done it lots more in the past, tonnes more, once he did for five weeks and I'd wondered what I did. so yeh.
You said earlier that you gave him the silent treatment after you got angry that he lied about hanging out with his friends. Then you went silent on him when you broke things off.

Either way, it seems like your best bet is to let him go and find a stable relationship.

can I ask you something. is it just a coincidence that he knows three people on instagram with the same name as his ex? he says he broke it off with her because it's a long distance.relationship apparently. n all of a sudden like a day ago suddenly he's adding woman after women with her name. strange? I guess I'm just a good instagram spy lol

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I have no clue, I don't know this guy. My advice is to stop obsessing over him and find someone else. From what you've said he hasn't treated you properly, so why bother stalking his social media?
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im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??

erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you

he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.

with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have

@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.

You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.

@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.

I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
I understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.

he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.

At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
sorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interested
I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.

Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.

Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.

Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
Well with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.



It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.
so I messaged him today happy birthday after.r tht he said thanks n then I asked him what he did and how it was..to c if.hl tell me he went clubbing, anyway gues what. he was logged in online clearly could see my messages but ignored me ...what a surprise. typical leo. why ignore me. its stupid
Did you expect him to respond? Seeing that you've pulled the silent treatment maneuver on him a few times, it's highly likely he's repaying the favor. Either that or he's pulling the plug.
actually that's the first time iv done it. he though has done it lots more in the past, tonnes more, once he did for five weeks and I'd wondered what I did. so yeh.
You said earlier that you gave him the silent treatment after you got angry that he lied about hanging out with his friends. Then you went silent on him when you broke things off.

Either way, it seems like your best bet is to let him go and find a stable relationship.

can I ask you something. is it just a coincidence that he knows three people on instagram with the same name as his ex? he says he broke it off with her because it's a long distance.relationship apparently. n all of a sudden like a day ago suddenly he's adding woman after women with her name. strange? I guess I'm just a good instagram spy lol

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I have no clue, I don't know this guy. My advice is to stop obsessing over him and find someone else. From what you've said he hasn't treated you properly, so why bother stalking his social media?
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im glad that there's someone here who can relate to me ??

erm im gonna hav to check my other placements lol. I'll get.back to you

he doesn't express.himself the way he used.to at the beginning he would tel me.how he feels, but that was right at the start when he said he had feelings, now I'm jst second guessing what he's thinking.all the.time all he ever does is laugh at me n make jokes. I do mention other guys to him.and that they chat me.up and talk to me but he doesn't react in a jealous way really. actually.he starts insulting them and saying get me some real competition but the proper jealousy isn't shown. so I don't know how he really. feels inside.

with regards to him and other.women who knows who he's speaking to behind closed doors. he told me to not.assume anythng and ths ill go crazy but when we were friends purely friends all he would do is check out like literally every single girl who would walk by, like he was one of those guys, he doesn't do that now as much. apart from the other day we were out and he was like if only these women would go for me but what d I have

@candy10 The Leo is showing his jealousy when he starts insulting the other guys. His emotions are more controlled though because he KNOWS you are trying to get an emotional rise out of him. That's the central issue here.

You keep poking at him to get an emotional response, which only makes him more guarded against you. Yes there's fault on both sides here, but if you want this guy to take you seriously, you need to stop with the mind games. He knows what you're doing and he's refusing to respond to it. Remember how I said Leos can be very stubborn.

@Moonlover02 understands. I don't think I know a single Leo that adheres to sex before marriage. I'm sure there are plenty of Leos who do. Having grown up in a in a religious family though, I personally never understood the concept. For me sex is a natural part of a relationship. When handled properly it is both a sign of love and trust. Without it, I can't fully invest myself into the rleationship. It just doesn't feel real to me.

I have to agree with @Ssuperman. There's too much insecurity and immaturity here for this to work.
I understand everything youre saying but the way he's behaving is causing me to in turn get reactions out of.him and play mind games. I feel like he's more immature than me. but he always seems to think he is the more mature one since he continually says I should be a women and act like one. I know what he means by that though he just wants me.to be all over.him.

he mentioned other women too though. he starts it off. like I don't know if.you read the part wher we went out.together and he made a comment when he saw someone else.saying "If oly I could get someone like that but why would she want me" I just thought am I hearing right lol. but as I ws saying the only way tht could b justified him saying somethng like that is because on that day we were talking about my ex and he kep making comment throughout the day saying I look miserable because of him is it because of the ex etc etc
Whether or not he is more immature is of no consequence, you've chosen to be with him. At the end of the day you can only control your own actions. He's not making you play mind games, you choose to act that way in response to his actions. It's still your choice.

At this point it just seems like we're talking in circles, so I'm going to take Ssuperman's advice and simply say that you either need to stop the mind games or walk away from this guy. Doing neither will only prolong your perdicament.
sorry just to clarify do you Think he has feelings for me deep down but he's holding back because I am or do you think they've all gone now and he really just wants to be sexual and that's it at the start he was the one chasing me I only saw him as a friend and he said he misses me every day and he likes me and if I want he can leave the ex for me .i swear evrytym this alwayz happns..I'm not that interested the guy chases me an then they pursue me so much that my feelings towards thrm change once they get me ..then they stop putting in effort and act like thyre not interested
I think this whole thing has too many holes and has become toxic. Neither one of you entirely trusts or feels completely comfortable with the other, not for there to be a healthy romantic relationship at least. Problem is a Leo's trust is key. Without trust, trying to be in a relationship is like trying to build a house on quicksand.

Unfortunately I can't tell you how he feels deep down because I'm not him (nor do I know him). I can guess though that based on what you've admitted, you'll have a hard time breaking through the barriers he's erected against you. I wouldn't be surprised if he was still open to having sex with you even if his love for you is gone. I just don't see you winning in this scenario.

Another thing to note is that when you first started talking, his ex girlfriend was still in the picture. As a result, you can't be entirely sure that you're not a rebound. A person who jumps from one relationship to another hasn't had enough time to truly sort through all of their emotions.

Likewise you two were never really in a serious relationship. You were friends, then you became "friends with benefits" without the benefits. You each stepped out of the relationship to talk to your exes and/or other people, which is where the trust died. To be frank, there's nothing really left to salvage because nothing actually got off the ground in the first place.
Well with regards to the ex...she wsnt the ex at the time but we're still in a long distance relationship and we were friends..but hs feeligs for her can't have been that strong if he was willing to leave her for me..That's wt he said at the time that if I want and agree to be with him he will leave her..but my thoughts unfortunately at the time were with the other guy in prison so I couldn't agree to that.



It's pretty obvious he still had feelings for his ex. If he didn't have feelings for his ex, he would not have gone back to her when you started talking to your ex. Regardless it's a red flag when someone jumps from one relationship to the other, unless you want to risk being a rebound.
so I messaged him today happy birthday after.r tht he said thanks n then I asked him what he did and how it was..to c if.hl tell me he went clubbing, anyway gues what. he was logged in online clearly could see my messages but ignored me ...what a surprise. typical leo. why ignore me. its stupid
Did you expect him to respond? Seeing that you've pulled the silent treatment maneuver on him a few times, it's highly likely he's repaying the favor. Either that or he's pulling the plug.
actually that's the first time iv done it. he though has done it lots more in the past, tonnes more, once he did for five weeks and I'd wondered what I did. so yeh.
You said earlier that you gave him the silent treatment after you got angry that he lied about hanging out with his friends. Then you went silent on him when you broke things off.

Either way, it seems like your best bet is to let him go and find a stable relationship.
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basicly im someone.who needs answers before I can fully move on if I decide.to move on. thas just who I am. so anyway I didn't tell him I know he added all those people with her name, I jst subtly brought her into the.convo n said now I know why you act how u do and don't show emotions I said u still love her, he was just like your wrong as always there's nothing there, n then I said I like straight up people n he said he's being as straight up as he can be, my guesses were this that either he keeps thinking about her.and so is finding people who are.similar to her n have the same name or he's trying.to find the real one because he lost contact ( maybe) an in the process is ending up following lots of randoms thinking it's her. Either way I find it shady. I don't get why he doesn't just say it though..like.admit he still has feelings for her. would b easier for both of us. n then I can say adios.bt all he does is hide and deny.
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You want answers, fine I'll give them to you. He used you as a way to get over his ex. Anything that he told you was a lie. Any feeling towards you other than a friendship, any plan, any action that reaffirmed your feelings, was a lie. He was an illusion that he created for his own selfish purposes. He didn't want you other than for those means.

All the comments he said about wanting another woman in front of you, was purposely done for you to get the picture that he wants other women, not you. He doesn't open up to you because he doesn't feel emotionally vulnerable with you nor is he willing to invest emotional energy on you.

Was he talking to other women behind your back? Yes. Was he intending to be with them? Yes. Will he keep doing this? Yes. Were you just like them? Yes. You were probably on the lower end of the spectrum, as a man will never tell a woman who he's interested in that he is speaking to other women unless he wishes to push her aside, or has zero respect for her or the relationship. If he stays, he will cheat if he hasn't done so by now. Know why? Because he doesn't love you.

He doesn't tell you about his feelings for his ex because it's none of your business. If he does or he doesn't, it's all the same. You're not important in his life, hence why he discarded you and ignored you; why he also disrespected you countless times. He also doesn't want to tell you, to keep you as a side piece in case he might need to use you again. But seeing as how annoying you have become, he might just drop you as a "friend".

He went back to his ex because he still had feelings and wanted to work things out. See if he could do anything with that or completely move on, which has nothing to do with you as these are his emotions that he has to deal with.

The jealousy he displayed was merely selfishness more than actual genuine affection. The sooner you accept that he used you or tried to use you sexually, the better you can move on. He will not give you the answers you seek and you will need to understand that you can't go on his Social Media and stalk him like he's yours. When he never was.

So what if 3 girls have the same name? He has 700 followers right? So I'm sure that's bound to happen with that many followers. Whatever he does now is not your concern. If he parties, fucks, dates, commits is none of your business because you two are done and he wants nothing to do with you. So quit annoying him and seek counseling.
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You want answers, fine I'll give them to you. He used you as a way to get over his ex. Anything that he told you was a lie. Any feeling towards you other than a friendship, any plan, any action that reaffirmed your feelings, was a lie. He was an illusion that he created for his own selfish purposes. He didn't want you other than for those means.

All the comments he said about wanting another woman in front of you, was purposely done for you to get the picture that he wants other women, not you. He doesn't open up to you because he doesn't feel emotionally vulnerable with you nor is he willing to invest emotional energy on you.

Was he talking to other women behind your back? Yes. Was he intending to be with them? Yes. Will he keep doing this? Yes. Were you just like them? Yes. You were probably on the lower end of the spectrum, as a man will never tell a woman who he's interested in that he is speaking to other women unless he wishes to push her aside, or has zero respect for her or the relationship. If he stays, he will cheat if he hasn't done so by now. Know why? Because he doesn't love you.

He doesn't tell you about his feelings for his ex because it's none of your business. If he does or he doesn't, it's all the same. You're not important in his life, hence why he discarded you and ignored you; why he also disrespected you countless times. He also doesn't want to tell you, to keep you as a side piece in case he might need to use you again. But seeing as how annoying you have become, he might just drop you as a "friend".

He went back to his ex because he still had feelings and wanted to work things out. See if he could do anything with that or completely move on, which has nothing to do with you as these are his emotions that he has to deal with.

The jealousy he displayed was merely selfishness more than actual genuine affection. The sooner you accept that he used you or tried to use you sexually, the better you can move on. He will not give you the answers you seek and you will need to understand that you can't go on his Social Media and stalk him like he's yours. When he never was.

So what if 3 girls have the same name? He has 700 followers right? So I'm sure that's bound to happen with that many followers. Whatever he does now is not your concern. If he parties, fucks, dates, commits is none of your business because you two are done and he wants nothing to do with you. So quit annoying him and seek counseling.


thanks for that, it made my day. Actually it doesn't effect me.whatsoever since I'm used to assholes now ☺, (referring to him) ill correct you on a few statements you made.

he didn't ever tell me he was speaking to other women if he is or was so that was incorrect, back in the day yes when he thought I went back to a previous guy he was more open about her. That's the only time.

another thing what makes the ex so special in your view, if im being used, how do you know she isn't.

if im just a side piece, what exactly is he gaining from me since I'm abstaining from sex—— there are plenty of others who will actually put out? yet he's waiting for me. bit ironic isn't it. there are times we meet up for hours on end and theres no physical contact.whatsoever. so what's he gaining? if im being used. you clearly didn't read the part where I said I Dont give.him anyting sexually.

if im annoying him so much... in eight years why didn't he block me. ? just to let you know he knew me before his ex. four years before the ex came along.



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You want answers, fine I'll give them to you. He used you as a way to get over his ex. Anything that he told you was a lie. Any feeling towards you other than a friendship, any plan, any action that reaffirmed your feelings, was a lie. He was an illusion that he created for his own selfish purposes. He didn't want you other than for those means.

All the comments he said about wanting another woman in front of you, was purposely done for you to get the picture that he wants other women, not you. He doesn't open up to you because he doesn't feel emotionally vulnerable with you nor is he willing to invest emotional energy on you.

Was he talking to other women behind your back? Yes. Was he intending to be with them? Yes. Will he keep doing this? Yes. Were you just like them? Yes. You were probably on the lower end of the spectrum, as a man will never tell a woman who he's interested in that he is speaking to other women unless he wishes to push her aside, or has zero respect for her or the relationship. If he stays, he will cheat if he hasn't done so by now. Know why? Because he doesn't love you.

He doesn't tell you about his feelings for his ex because it's none of your business. If he does or he doesn't, it's all the same. You're not important in his life, hence why he discarded you and ignored you; why he also disrespected you countless times. He also doesn't want to tell you, to keep you as a side piece in case he might need to use you again. But seeing as how annoying you have become, he might just drop you as a "friend".

He went back to his ex because he still had feelings and wanted to work things out. See if he could do anything with that or completely move on, which has nothing to do with you as these are his emotions that he has to deal with.

The jealousy he displayed was merely selfishness more than actual genuine affection. The sooner you accept that he used you or tried to use you sexually, the better you can move on. He will not give you the answers you seek and you will need to understand that you can't go on his Social Media and stalk him like he's yours. When he never was.

So what if 3 girls have the same name? He has 700 followers right? So I'm sure that's bound to happen with that many followers. Whatever he does now is not your concern. If he parties, fucks, dates, commits is none of your business because you two are done and he wants nothing to do with you. So quit annoying him and seek counseling.



also just to let you know whilst he was talking to his ex..he told me of his feelings for me. At the time I saw him as a friend, so he pursued me romantically first. ?
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You want answers, fine I'll give them to you. He used you as a way to get over his ex. Anything that he told you was a lie. Any feeling towards you other than a friendship, any plan, any action that reaffirmed your feelings, was a lie. He was an illusion that he created for his own selfish purposes. He didn't want you other than for those means.

All the comments he said about wanting another woman in front of you, was purposely done for you to get the picture that he wants other women, not you. He doesn't open up to you because he doesn't feel emotionally vulnerable with you nor is he willing to invest emotional energy on you.

Was he talking to other women behind your back? Yes. Was he intending to be with them? Yes. Will he keep doing this? Yes. Were you just like them? Yes. You were probably on the lower end of the spectrum, as a man will never tell a woman who he's interested in that he is speaking to other women unless he wishes to push her aside, or has zero respect for her or the relationship. If he stays, he will cheat if he hasn't done so by now. Know why? Because he doesn't love you.

He doesn't tell you about his feelings for his ex because it's none of your business. If he does or he doesn't, it's all the same. You're not important in his life, hence why he discarded you and ignored you; why he also disrespected you countless times. He also doesn't want to tell you, to keep you as a side piece in case he might need to use you again. But seeing as how annoying you have become, he might just drop you as a "friend".

He went back to his ex because he still had feelings and wanted to work things out. See if he could do anything with that or completely move on, which has nothing to do with you as these are his emotions that he has to deal with.

The jealousy he displayed was merely selfishness more than actual genuine affection. The sooner you accept that he used you or tried to use you sexually, the better you can move on. He will not give you the answers you seek and you will need to understand that you can't go on his Social Media and stalk him like he's yours. When he never was.

So what if 3 girls have the same name? He has 700 followers right? So I'm sure that's bound to happen with that many followers. Whatever he does now is not your concern. If he parties, fucks, dates, commits is none of your business because you two are done and he wants nothing to do with you. So quit annoying him and seek counseling.



alao to let you know I'm not annoying him. we got back on to speaking terms, but even so, I havnt spoken to him properly even as a friend for days since then. so don't get it twisted.

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I read everything you said and I stand by my statement. It's all the same either way. He tried to use you emotionally, but that didn't work because he couldn't forget his ex. Second, if tried to sleep with you and if he didn't that's a red flag. Because a man who is attracted to his SO will feel sexual attraction towards her. If he did try, he did try and use you because everything else you mentioned implies he was using you.

It doesn't matter if he met you or her before and or after. Any man can pursue you, but that doesn't mean your going to measure up to their mold. The fact that he was with his ex and still trying to pursue you, is a red flag. Because it shows lack of integrity and a man who possibly was amusing you as a rebound. He could have fallen in love with her and just been infatuated with you. Being truly in love and in lust are two completely different things for a man.

You are annoying AFTER the relationship ended. You said so yourself that you guys haven't spoken. So I don't see how I got it twisted when you have shown fickle behavior which this guy picked up on. He was with his ex when he told you of his feelings yet had ZERO respect for your 'relationship' by implying he wanted to be with someone else. That's classic shitty behavior coming from a person and only done so as a passive aggressive way to tell YOU he has zero respect for you.

You said so yourself that you're used to asshole so maybe if you sit down and evaluate your relationships and the type of men you go for, will help you in the future. But I will say that you are just as equally to blame in this, as you don't know what you want and only want what you can't have. So any man, good or bad, will pick up on this and use you or disrespect you Because they themselves feel slighted.

So in this case you are both equally at fault.