Tell me a time when your ego was bruised?

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My limited experience of Leos tells me they are relatively unaffected by anything outside of themselves. They just get back up on the horse over and over again. Einstein's theory of insanity also applies here. Or was it stupidity lol


Why didn't you go into my Leo thread and answer what you do for fun? I really want to know. I'm really trying to find fun things to do that gets a Leo man motivated. I would really like your feedback as a Leo man.

Please 😄

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Why didn't you go into my Leo thread and answer what you do for fun? I really want to know. I'm really trying to find fun things to do that gets a Leo man motivated. I would really like your feedback as a Leo man.

Please 😄

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Honestly I just stop by this place for 40 sec, drop my turd in whatever thread is on the front page and leave lol. But I'll have a look
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It took a lot for life to get through my thick head. I feel it was spending my entire 20s with the mindset I would get to the top of my career, then once I was set free I realized I still had no idea what I was really doing yet. Like I felt the intense fear of being thrown right into the top spot of my personal career, then realized I was all talk and didn't truly know shit. That realization not only made me try 100 times harder, but also humbled me on a deep level. I feel that is necessary for many people, especially Leo energy. At some point we need to be thrown right into the limelight, and will either pass, fail, or both. Regardless we need to be brought to earth and humbled in some way.
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It took a lot for life to get through my thick head. I feel it was spending my entire 20s with the mindset I would get to the top of my career, then once I was set free I realized I still had no idea what I was really doing yet. Like I felt the intense fear of being thrown right into the top spot of my personal career, then realized I was all talk and didn't truly know shit. That realization not only made me try 100 times harder, but also humbled me on a deep level. I feel that is necessary for many people, especially Leo energy. At some point we need to be thrown right into the limelight, and will either pass, fail, or both. Regardless we need to be brought to earth and humbled in some way.


So I feel like I just had to humble a Leo. Unfortunately, I think they’re too arrogant and prideful that they have convinced themselves they have done nothing wrong, and are the victim, etc.

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Can we be honest about it too? I know Leos love to pretend like they never get bothered, but let’s be real...I know there’s at least that ONE time someone said something, or did something that really messed with your pride or bruised your ego. So what was it? What did they say?

My ex was a Leo - from what he told me, he hated being betrayed by his friends - people he thought he was close to, only to realize they were using him for certain things. Also not being taken seriously, repeated failures in work or when things didn't go his way. He was also used to having the spotlight all of the time in sports - but when he changed soccer leagues for example, he found that he wasn't accepted on the team as much as the first, and his teammates didn't treat him well. I often used to tell him that they didn't deserve him and that his talent should be put somewhere he was truly appreciated and respected. I knew he was upset about it though, more than he would show.

In all my past experience - Leo men are sensitive, and deep down they care a lot more than they sometimes show about many things. As a Scorp - I think that's why I'm so drawn to them.
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Dealing with one, and any time I try to stand up for myself, they lash out and jump down my throat and flip it around and chastise me.

They are extremely manipulative and like to gaslight. Is this a front for those sensitivities? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a stone cold narcissists. If not, they just live up to the cliche stereotype of leos, they’re so arrogant, no one can ever be wrong. This guy has done some horrible things to me, I’ve watched him treat others in a less than considerate way. Today, he twisted it around and told me “he was the victim, and that I’m always trying to make him feel like a sh**y person.” I told him—you feel like a shitty person, because you are a shitty person. Your guilt has nothing to do with me.

If he’s not flying off in sheer rage and defense, he likes to play aloof. I had surgery a few weeks ago—hence why I was so active on DXP—when I returned to work, he literally asked me if I were on vacation.

Like he really expected me to buy, that he had no idea I was away on medical leave—even though his exact words “oh right, you had that uhhh tumor thing right? How’d that go!?”

I know I shouldn’t, I was doing so well paying him dirt. Not giving him any of my energy or time, focusing on myself and my work. But that sent me over, because it was like “wow, what shitty person pretends they don’t know someone—who they know had a tumor—had surgery!? Like who the hell does that!?”

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Can we be honest about it too? I know Leos love to pretend like they never get bothered, but let’s be real...I know there’s at least that ONE time someone said something, or did something that really messed with your pride or bruised your ego. So what was it? What did they say?

My ex was a Leo - from what he told me, he hated being betrayed by his friends - people he thought he was close to, only to realize they were using him for certain things. Also not being taken seriously, repeated failures in work or when things didn't go his way. He was also used to having the spotlight all of the time in sports - but when he changed soccer leagues for example, he found that he wasn't accepted on the team as much as the first, and his teammates didn't treat him well. I often used to tell him that they didn't deserve him and that his talent should be put somewhere he was truly appreciated and respected. I knew he was upset about it though, more than he would show.

In all my past experience - Leo men are sensitive, and deep down they care a lot more than they sometimes show about many things. As a Scorp - I think that's why I'm so drawn to them.

Dealing with one, and any time I try to stand up for myself, they lash out and jump down my throat and flip it around and chastise me.

They are extremely manipulative and like to gaslight. Is this a front for those sensitivities? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a stone cold narcissists. If not, they just live up to the cliche stereotype of leos, they’re so arrogant, no one can ever be wrong. This guy has done some horrible things to me, I’ve watched him treat others in a less than considerate way. Today, he twisted it around and told me “he was the victim, and that I’m always trying to make him feel like a sh**y person.” I told him—you feel like a shitty person, because you are a shitty person. Your guilt has nothing to do with me.

If he’s not flying off in sheer rage and defense, he likes to play aloof. I had surgery a few weeks ago—hence why I was so active on DXP—when I returned to work, he literally asked me if I were on vacation.

Like he really expected me to buy, that he had no idea I was away on medical leave—even though his exact words “oh right, you had that uhhh tumor thing right? How’d that go!?”

I know I shouldn’t, I was doing so well paying him dirt. Not giving him any of my energy or time, focusing on myself and my work. But that sent me over, because it was like “wow, what shitty person pretends they don’t know someone—who they know had a tumor—had surgery!? Like who the hell does that!?”

Damn, he sounds exactly like my Libra ex!! I've never met a Leo like this. What are his other placements?
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Can we be honest about it too? I know Leos love to pretend like they never get bothered, but let’s be real...I know there’s at least that ONE time someone said something, or did something that really messed with your pride or bruised your ego. So what was it? What did they say?

My ex was a Leo - from what he told me, he hated being betrayed by his friends - people he thought he was close to, only to realize they were using him for certain things. Also not being taken seriously, repeated failures in work or when things didn't go his way. He was also used to having the spotlight all of the time in sports - but when he changed soccer leagues for example, he found that he wasn't accepted on the team as much as the first, and his teammates didn't treat him well. I often used to tell him that they didn't deserve him and that his talent should be put somewhere he was truly appreciated and respected. I knew he was upset about it though, more than he would show.

In all my past experience - Leo men are sensitive, and deep down they care a lot more than they sometimes show about many things. As a Scorp - I think that's why I'm so drawn to them.

Dealing with one, and any time I try to stand up for myself, they lash out and jump down my throat and flip it around and chastise me.

They are extremely manipulative and like to gaslight. Is this a front for those sensitivities? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a stone cold narcissists. If not, they just live up to the cliche stereotype of leos, they’re so arrogant, no one can ever be wrong. This guy has done some horrible things to me, I’ve watched him treat others in a less than considerate way. Today, he twisted it around and told me “he was the victim, and that I’m always trying to make him feel like a sh**y person.” I told him—you feel like a shitty person, because you are a shitty person. Your guilt has nothing to do with me.

If he’s not flying off in sheer rage and defense, he likes to play aloof. I had surgery a few weeks ago—hence why I was so active on DXP—when I returned to work, he literally asked me if I were on vacation.

Like he really expected me to buy, that he had no idea I was away on medical leave—even though his exact words “oh right, you had that uhhh tumor thing right? How’d that go!?”

I know I shouldn’t, I was doing so well paying him dirt. Not giving him any of my energy or time, focusing on myself and my work. But that sent me over, because it was like “wow, what shitty person pretends they don’t know someone—who they know had a tumor—had surgery!? Like who the hell does that!?”

Well Jesus girl, for him to act so aloof about a surgery and a tumor is not ok no matter what his reasoning is. I hope you're doing better and recovering. Any person with any sign that reacts that way when things are difficult is not worth your time or effort.
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Thanks!
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Can we be honest about it too? I know Leos love to pretend like they never get bothered, but let’s be real...I know there’s at least that ONE time someone said something, or did something that really messed with your pride or bruised your ego. So what was it? What did they say?

My ex was a Leo - from what he told me, he hated being betrayed by his friends - people he thought he was close to, only to realize they were using him for certain things. Also not being taken seriously, repeated failures in work or when things didn't go his way. He was also used to having the spotlight all of the time in sports - but when he changed soccer leagues for example, he found that he wasn't accepted on the team as much as the first, and his teammates didn't treat him well. I often used to tell him that they didn't deserve him and that his talent should be put somewhere he was truly appreciated and respected. I knew he was upset about it though, more than he would show.

In all my past experience - Leo men are sensitive, and deep down they care a lot more than they sometimes show about many things. As a Scorp - I think that's why I'm so drawn to them.

Dealing with one, and any time I try to stand up for myself, they lash out and jump down my throat and flip it around and chastise me.

They are extremely manipulative and like to gaslight. Is this a front for those sensitivities? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a stone cold narcissists. If not, they just live up to the cliche stereotype of leos, they’re so arrogant, no one can ever be wrong. This guy has done some horrible things to me, I’ve watched him treat others in a less than considerate way. Today, he twisted it around and told me “he was the victim, and that I’m always trying to make him feel like a sh**y person.” I told him—you feel like a shitty person, because you are a shitty person. Your guilt has nothing to do with me.

If he’s not flying off in sheer rage and defense, he likes to play aloof. I had surgery a few weeks ago—hence why I was so active on DXP—when I returned to work, he literally asked me if I were on vacation.

Like he really expected me to buy, that he had no idea I was away on medical leave—even though his exact words “oh right, you had that uhhh tumor thing right? How’d that go!?”

I know I shouldn’t, I was doing so well paying him dirt. Not giving him any of my energy or time, focusing on myself and my work. But that sent me over, because it was like “wow, what shitty person pretends they don’t know someone—who they know had a tumor—had surgery!? Like who the hell does that!?”

Damn, he sounds exactly like my Libra ex!! I've never met a Leo like this. What are his other placements?

Leo Sun leo Rising Pisces Moon

Hmm, no similar placements to my ex. Everything you said is spot on to my previous relationship though.

I don't think I've ever met a Leo Sun who was also a Leo Rising. Double whammy!
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Yeah it’s just odd to me, because he’s so socially awkward, like stunted, doesn’t know how to really have conversation unless you’re complimenting him or giving him attention—then he kinda comes alive. I may make a post about it and get y’all thoughts. But I’m also tired af and don’t care lol

But it’s like, I don’t get how someone could be so arrogant and self absorbed yet also be awkward, like how lmao. Like you don’t even have an excuse for being arrogant cuz you’re so awkward lol
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Can we be honest about it too? I know Leos love to pretend like they never get bothered, but let’s be real...I know there’s at least that ONE time someone said something, or did something that really messed with your pride or bruised your ego. So what was it? What did they say?

My ex was a Leo - from what he told me, he hated being betrayed by his friends - people he thought he was close to, only to realize they were using him for certain things. Also not being taken seriously, repeated failures in work or when things didn't go his way. He was also used to having the spotlight all of the time in sports - but when he changed soccer leagues for example, he found that he wasn't accepted on the team as much as the first, and his teammates didn't treat him well. I often used to tell him that they didn't deserve him and that his talent should be put somewhere he was truly appreciated and respected. I knew he was upset about it though, more than he would show.

In all my past experience - Leo men are sensitive, and deep down they care a lot more than they sometimes show about many things. As a Scorp - I think that's why I'm so drawn to them.

Dealing with one, and any time I try to stand up for myself, they lash out and jump down my throat and flip it around and chastise me.

They are extremely manipulative and like to gaslight. Is this a front for those sensitivities? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a stone cold narcissists. If not, they just live up to the cliche stereotype of leos, they’re so arrogant, no one can ever be wrong. This guy has done some horrible things to me, I’ve watched him treat others in a less than considerate way. Today, he twisted it around and told me “he was the victim, and that I’m always trying to make him feel like a sh**y person.” I told him—you feel like a shitty person, because you are a shitty person. Your guilt has nothing to do with me.

If he’s not flying off in sheer rage and defense, he likes to play aloof. I had surgery a few weeks ago—hence why I was so active on DXP—when I returned to work, he literally asked me if I were on vacation.

Like he really expected me to buy, that he had no idea I was away on medical leave—even though his exact words “oh right, you had that uhhh tumor thing right? How’d that go!?”

I know I shouldn’t, I was doing so well paying him dirt. Not giving him any of my energy or time, focusing on myself and my work. But that sent me over, because it was like “wow, what shitty person pretends they don’t know someone—who they know had a tumor—had surgery!? Like who the hell does that!?”

Damn, he sounds exactly like my Libra ex!! I've never met a Leo like this. What are his other placements?

Leo Sun leo Rising Pisces Moon

Hmm, no similar placements to my ex. Everything you said is spot on to my previous relationship though.

I don't think I've ever met a Leo Sun who was also a Leo Rising. Double whammy!

Yeah it’s just odd to me, because he’s so socially awkward, like stunted, doesn’t know how to really have conversation unless you’re complimenting him or giving him attention—then he kinda comes alive. I may make a post about it and get y’all thoughts. But I’m also tired af and don’t care lol

But it’s like, I don’t get how someone could be so arrogant and self absorbed yet also be awkward, like how lmao. Like you don’t even have an excuse for being arrogant cuz you’re so awkward lol

Yeah, that is really odd. He doesn't sound like any Leo I've ever met, very weird. He also doesn't sound like a guy worth your time at all girl. Were you together for awhile?
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No we weren’t. I have this issue where I’m a pretty good judge of character, but I like to give people the benefit of doubt. I’ve attracted lots of gas lighters—parents being one. So I guess I stumbled back into that pattern with him. Small win: I noticed it very early on and ended seeing him. MAJOR loss: we work together (I know stupid, lesson learned) and so that always made it hard cuz everyone blows smoke up his ass like he’s a nice guy, and he feeds off the attention. Because he’s also a little awkward you don’t think he’d have it in him to be a don lothorio. But he is because women throw themselves at him because he’s good looking—personally to me, he’s not even an 8. Maybe a 7. Let’s just say, he needs his beard, and no I’m not being funny, I’m just being real. He’s a man that’s good looking primarily cuz he’s tall, dark olive skin, and has a beard.

Anyway, he’s use to women fawning all over him. And when he does something wrong he’ll project it onto others without ever apologizing. He simply does not know how to do it. And so I think with me, I was the first to call him out on his arrogance, and how he wears false mask, and how his treatment of me was horrible. But he blew all the way up. Like unfortunately for me, I love leo women, but I will never be interested in a Leo man. I can’t be into people who expect everyone to be the President of their fan club, yet they don’t know how to show compassion and human decency to others.

Like at least have a good personality to validate the large ego!
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Can we be honest about it too? I know Leos love to pretend like they never get bothered, but let’s be real...I know there’s at least that ONE time someone said something, or did something that really messed with your pride or bruised your ego. So what was it? What did they say?

My ex was a Leo - from what he told me, he hated being betrayed by his friends - people he thought he was close to, only to realize they were using him for certain things. Also not being taken seriously, repeated failures in work or when things didn't go his way. He was also used to having the spotlight all of the time in sports - but when he changed soccer leagues for example, he found that he wasn't accepted on the team as much as the first, and his teammates didn't treat him well. I often used to tell him that they didn't deserve him and that his talent should be put somewhere he was truly appreciated and respected. I knew he was upset about it though, more than he would show.

In all my past experience - Leo men are sensitive, and deep down they care a lot more than they sometimes show about many things. As a Scorp - I think that's why I'm so drawn to them.

Dealing with one, and any time I try to stand up for myself, they lash out and jump down my throat and flip it around and chastise me.

They are extremely manipulative and like to gaslight. Is this a front for those sensitivities? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a stone cold narcissists. If not, they just live up to the cliche stereotype of leos, they’re so arrogant, no one can ever be wrong. This guy has done some horrible things to me, I’ve watched him treat others in a less than considerate way. Today, he twisted it around and told me “he was the victim, and that I’m always trying to make him feel like a sh**y person.” I told him—you feel like a shitty person, because you are a shitty person. Your guilt has nothing to do with me.

If he’s not flying off in sheer rage and defense, he likes to play aloof. I had surgery a few weeks ago—hence why I was so active on DXP—when I returned to work, he literally asked me if I were on vacation.

Like he really expected me to buy, that he had no idea I was away on medical leave—even though his exact words “oh right, you had that uhhh tumor thing right? How’d that go!?”

I know I shouldn’t, I was doing so well paying him dirt. Not giving him any of my energy or time, focusing on myself and my work. But that sent me over, because it was like “wow, what shitty person pretends they don’t know someone—who they know had a tumor—had surgery!? Like who the hell does that!?”

@chuckcem would say this is an “immature” or “unevolved” Leo, but really this is just shitty Leo energy. They are the teenager of the zodiac.
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Yeah. The worst part though is, everyone validated him by seeing him as a “nice guy.” I mean he has a reputation for being attention seeking and a lothario, but it just feels sucky for someone to gaslight you.
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Can we be honest about it too? I know Leos love to pretend like they never get bothered, but let’s be real...I know there’s at least that ONE time someone said something, or did something that really messed with your pride or bruised your ego. So what was it? What did they say?

My ex was a Leo - from what he told me, he hated being betrayed by his friends - people he thought he was close to, only to realize they were using him for certain things. Also not being taken seriously, repeated failures in work or when things didn't go his way. He was also used to having the spotlight all of the time in sports - but when he changed soccer leagues for example, he found that he wasn't accepted on the team as much as the first, and his teammates didn't treat him well. I often used to tell him that they didn't deserve him and that his talent should be put somewhere he was truly appreciated and respected. I knew he was upset about it though, more than he would show.

In all my past experience - Leo men are sensitive, and deep down they care a lot more than they sometimes show about many things. As a Scorp - I think that's why I'm so drawn to them.

Dealing with one, and any time I try to stand up for myself, they lash out and jump down my throat and flip it around and chastise me.

They are extremely manipulative and like to gaslight. Is this a front for those sensitivities? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a stone cold narcissists. If not, they just live up to the cliche stereotype of leos, they’re so arrogant, no one can ever be wrong. This guy has done some horrible things to me, I’ve watched him treat others in a less than considerate way. Today, he twisted it around and told me “he was the victim, and that I’m always trying to make him feel like a sh**y person.” I told him—you feel like a shitty person, because you are a shitty person. Your guilt has nothing to do with me.

If he’s not flying off in sheer rage and defense, he likes to play aloof. I had surgery a few weeks ago—hence why I was so active on DXP—when I returned to work, he literally asked me if I were on vacation.

Like he really expected me to buy, that he had no idea I was away on medical leave—even though his exact words “oh right, you had that uhhh tumor thing right? How’d that go!?”

I know I shouldn’t, I was doing so well paying him dirt. Not giving him any of my energy or time, focusing on myself and my work. But that sent me over, because it was like “wow, what shitty person pretends they don’t know someone—who they know had a tumor—had surgery!? Like who the hell does that!?”

I can't say that I've had similar experiences to yours, and I'm sorry to hear you're going through this! (also the fact that he didn't remember your surgery, wtf lol - he's an idiot)

What I will say - ignorance and selfishness are two traits I've noticed heavily with Leo men. They can never take the blame or ever say sorry for when they fuck things up in a relationship. When my ex and I would talk about serious stuff/problems - he'd always say "stop pressuring me, I don't want to talk about this" - and not take responsibility to help fix the problem. They have accountability issues. Judging from what you mentioned about how your Leo treats others...that's not a good sign, unfortunately. If he can't remember the fact that you were going in for surgery...I mean, that'd be a deal-breaker for me.

He doesn't sound like he's worth your time, and you deserve someone who will take note of these things, look out for you, and can admit when he's wrong and not argue it out just to try to win/turn it on you. How long have you been together?
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Oh not long at all, I kinda noticed his narcissism, and need for validation in others, yet his refusal to give emotional stability and support to others—unless he got something in return. Most of the time, it’s just compliments and attention, he has a huge ego, I suppose part of it stems from being somewhat of a public figure. But I tend to second guess myself when solidifying judgments, I get too in my head and want to give benefits of the doubt. But has behavior giving my surgery was enough to solidify what I have known all along about him.
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Can we be honest about it too? I know Leos love to pretend like they never get bothered, but let’s be real...I know there’s at least that ONE time someone said something, or did something that really messed with your pride or bruised your ego. So what was it? What did they say?

My ex was a Leo - from what he told me, he hated being betrayed by his friends - people he thought he was close to, only to realize they were using him for certain things. Also not being taken seriously, repeated failures in work or when things didn't go his way. He was also used to having the spotlight all of the time in sports - but when he changed soccer leagues for example, he found that he wasn't accepted on the team as much as the first, and his teammates didn't treat him well. I often used to tell him that they didn't deserve him and that his talent should be put somewhere he was truly appreciated and respected. I knew he was upset about it though, more than he would show.

In all my past experience - Leo men are sensitive, and deep down they care a lot more than they sometimes show about many things. As a Scorp - I think that's why I'm so drawn to them.

Dealing with one, and any time I try to stand up for myself, they lash out and jump down my throat and flip it around and chastise me.

They are extremely manipulative and like to gaslight. Is this a front for those sensitivities? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a stone cold narcissists. If not, they just live up to the cliche stereotype of leos, they’re so arrogant, no one can ever be wrong. This guy has done some horrible things to me, I’ve watched him treat others in a less than considerate way. Today, he twisted it around and told me “he was the victim, and that I’m always trying to make him feel like a sh**y person.” I told him—you feel like a shitty person, because you are a shitty person. Your guilt has nothing to do with me.

If he’s not flying off in sheer rage and defense, he likes to play aloof. I had surgery a few weeks ago—hence why I was so active on DXP—when I returned to work, he literally asked me if I were on vacation.

Like he really expected me to buy, that he had no idea I was away on medical leave—even though his exact words “oh right, you had that uhhh tumor thing right? How’d that go!?”

I know I shouldn’t, I was doing so well paying him dirt. Not giving him any of my energy or time, focusing on myself and my work. But that sent me over, because it was like “wow, what shitty person pretends they don’t know someone—who they know had a tumor—had surgery!? Like who the hell does that!?”

@chuckcem would say this is an “immature” or “unevolved” Leo, but really this is just shitty Leo energy. They are the teenager of the zodiac.
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The Leo sounds like a lunatic. Saying that he is an immature Leo in an understatement. Steer clear of anyone who exhibits that type of behavior.
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Can we be honest about it too? I know Leos love to pretend like they never get bothered, but let’s be real...I know there’s at least that ONE time someone said something, or did something that really messed with your pride or bruised your ego. So what was it? What did they say?

My ex was a Leo - from what he told me, he hated being betrayed by his friends - people he thought he was close to, only to realize they were using him for certain things. Also not being taken seriously, repeated failures in work or when things didn't go his way. He was also used to having the spotlight all of the time in sports - but when he changed soccer leagues for example, he found that he wasn't accepted on the team as much as the first, and his teammates didn't treat him well. I often used to tell him that they didn't deserve him and that his talent should be put somewhere he was truly appreciated and respected. I knew he was upset about it though, more than he would show.

In all my past experience - Leo men are sensitive, and deep down they care a lot more than they sometimes show about many things. As a Scorp - I think that's why I'm so drawn to them.

Dealing with one, and any time I try to stand up for myself, they lash out and jump down my throat and flip it around and chastise me.

They are extremely manipulative and like to gaslight. Is this a front for those sensitivities? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a stone cold narcissists. If not, they just live up to the cliche stereotype of leos, they’re so arrogant, no one can ever be wrong. This guy has done some horrible things to me, I’ve watched him treat others in a less than considerate way. Today, he twisted it around and told me “he was the victim, and that I’m always trying to make him feel like a sh**y person.” I told him—you feel like a shitty person, because you are a shitty person. Your guilt has nothing to do with me.

If he’s not flying off in sheer rage and defense, he likes to play aloof. I had surgery a few weeks ago—hence why I was so active on DXP—when I returned to work, he literally asked me if I were on vacation.

Like he really expected me to buy, that he had no idea I was away on medical leave—even though his exact words “oh right, you had that uhhh tumor thing right? How’d that go!?”

I know I shouldn’t, I was doing so well paying him dirt. Not giving him any of my energy or time, focusing on myself and my work. But that sent me over, because it was like “wow, what shitty person pretends they don’t know someone—who they know had a tumor—had surgery!? Like who the hell does that!?”

@chuckcem would say this is an “immature” or “unevolved” Leo, but really this is just shitty Leo energy. They are the teenager of the zodiac.

The Leo sounds like a lunatic. Saying that he is an immature Leo in an understatement. Steer clear of anyone who exhibits that type of behavior.
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I agree. Just seeing how well he could compose himself when he saw people walk by, just after cursing me out, all because I called him out for being fake af—pretending like you know nothing about my surgery, but then when I’m back at work you want to act concern!?

We dated. You knew about my condition. Then turned it around and accused me of being bitter and that he’s a nice guy victimized by me. Wtf! Extreme narcissism.



Anyway, I see you’re a man. Do people buy it when a man of a certain age is a bachelor, in his case he’s pushing 40, never been married and every girl people ask about, he has a story of why “she” was problematic? It’s never him who is in the wrong, it’s always something “wrong with them?”

Just curious, how’d you perceive it and if you think most would buy it.
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Can we be honest about it too? I know Leos love to pretend like they never get bothered, but let’s be real...I know there’s at least that ONE time someone said something, or did something that really messed with your pride or bruised your ego. So what was it? What did they say?

My ex was a Leo - from what he told me, he hated being betrayed by his friends - people he thought he was close to, only to realize they were using him for certain things. Also not being taken seriously, repeated failures in work or when things didn't go his way. He was also used to having the spotlight all of the time in sports - but when he changed soccer leagues for example, he found that he wasn't accepted on the team as much as the first, and his teammates didn't treat him well. I often used to tell him that they didn't deserve him and that his talent should be put somewhere he was truly appreciated and respected. I knew he was upset about it though, more than he would show.

In all my past experience - Leo men are sensitive, and deep down they care a lot more than they sometimes show about many things. As a Scorp - I think that's why I'm so drawn to them.

Dealing with one, and any time I try to stand up for myself, they lash out and jump down my throat and flip it around and chastise me.

They are extremely manipulative and like to gaslight. Is this a front for those sensitivities? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a stone cold narcissists. If not, they just live up to the cliche stereotype of leos, they’re so arrogant, no one can ever be wrong. This guy has done some horrible things to me, I’ve watched him treat others in a less than considerate way. Today, he twisted it around and told me “he was the victim, and that I’m always trying to make him feel like a sh**y person.” I told him—you feel like a shitty person, because you are a shitty person. Your guilt has nothing to do with me.

If he’s not flying off in sheer rage and defense, he likes to play aloof. I had surgery a few weeks ago—hence why I was so active on DXP—when I returned to work, he literally asked me if I were on vacation.

Like he really expected me to buy, that he had no idea I was away on medical leave—even though his exact words “oh right, you had that uhhh tumor thing right? How’d that go!?”

I know I shouldn’t, I was doing so well paying him dirt. Not giving him any of my energy or time, focusing on myself and my work. But that sent me over, because it was like “wow, what shitty person pretends they don’t know someone—who they know had a tumor—had surgery!? Like who the hell does that!?”

@chuckcem would say this is an “immature” or “unevolved” Leo, but really this is just shitty Leo energy. They are the teenager of the zodiac.

The Leo sounds like a lunatic. Saying that he is an immature Leo in an understatement. Steer clear of anyone who exhibits that type of behavior.

I agree. Just seeing how well he could compose himself when he saw people walk by, just after cursing me out, all because I called him out for being fake af—pretending like you know nothing about my surgery, but then when I’m back at work you want to act concern!?

We dated. You knew about my condition. Then turned it around and accused me of being bitter and that he’s a nice guy victimized by me. Wtf! Extreme narcissism.



Anyway, I see you’re a man. Do people buy it when a man of a certain age is a bachelor, in his case he’s pushing 40, never been married and every girl people ask about, he has a story of why “she” was problematic? It’s never him who is in the wrong, it’s always something “wrong with them?”

Just curious, how’d you perceive it and if you think most would buy it.
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A man being single at 40 is not an issue on its own. Most men hit their financial stride in their 40s and many choose to focus on their careers first before worrying about relationships until they become successful. This is one reason you will see older men dating younger women and starting families at that age.

However if anyone (man or woman) constantly says that they are single because it is was someone else's "fault", that person is incapable of seeing that they are the common denominator in all of their failed relationships. This is not the type of person to date or deal with. Ignore them.
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Posted by Sooner_or_Later
Posted by malloryor

Can we be honest about it too? I know Leos love to pretend like they never get bothered, but let’s be real...I know there’s at least that ONE time someone said something, or did something that really messed with your pride or bruised your ego. So what was it? What did they say?

My ex was a Leo - from what he told me, he hated being betrayed by his friends - people he thought he was close to, only to realize they were using him for certain things. Also not being taken seriously, repeated failures in work or when things didn't go his way. He was also used to having the spotlight all of the time in sports - but when he changed soccer leagues for example, he found that he wasn't accepted on the team as much as the first, and his teammates didn't treat him well. I often used to tell him that they didn't deserve him and that his talent should be put somewhere he was truly appreciated and respected. I knew he was upset about it though, more than he would show.

In all my past experience - Leo men are sensitive, and deep down they care a lot more than they sometimes show about many things. As a Scorp - I think that's why I'm so drawn to them.

Dealing with one, and any time I try to stand up for myself, they lash out and jump down my throat and flip it around and chastise me.

They are extremely manipulative and like to gaslight. Is this a front for those sensitivities? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a stone cold narcissists. If not, they just live up to the cliche stereotype of leos, they’re so arrogant, no one can ever be wrong. This guy has done some horrible things to me, I’ve watched him treat others in a less than considerate way. Today, he twisted it around and told me “he was the victim, and that I’m always trying to make him feel like a sh**y person.” I told him—you feel like a shitty person, because you are a shitty person. Your guilt has nothing to do with me.

If he’s not flying off in sheer rage and defense, he likes to play aloof. I had surgery a few weeks ago—hence why I was so active on DXP—when I returned to work, he literally asked me if I were on vacation.

Like he really expected me to buy, that he had no idea I was away on medical leave—even though his exact words “oh right, you had that uhhh tumor thing right? How’d that go!?”

I know I shouldn’t, I was doing so well paying him dirt. Not giving him any of my energy or time, focusing on myself and my work. But that sent me over, because it was like “wow, what shitty person pretends they don’t know someone—who they know had a tumor—had surgery!? Like who the hell does that!?”

@chuckcem would say this is an “immature” or “unevolved” Leo, but really this is just shitty Leo energy. They are the teenager of the zodiac.

The Leo sounds like a lunatic. Saying that he is an immature Leo in an understatement. Steer clear of anyone who exhibits that type of behavior.

I agree. Just seeing how well he could compose himself when he saw people walk by, just after cursing me out, all because I called him out for being fake af—pretending like you know nothing about my surgery, but then when I’m back at work you want to act concern!?

We dated. You knew about my condition. Then turned it around and accused me of being bitter and that he’s a nice guy victimized by me. Wtf! Extreme narcissism.



Anyway, I see you’re a man. Do people buy it when a man of a certain age is a bachelor, in his case he’s pushing 40, never been married and every girl people ask about, he has a story of why “she” was problematic? It’s never him who is in the wrong, it’s always something “wrong with them?”

Just curious, how’d you perceive it and if you think most would buy it.

A man being single at 40 is not an issue on its own. Most men hit their financial stride in their 40s and many choose to focus on their careers first before worrying about relationships until they become successful. This is one reason you will see older men dating younger women and starting families at that age.

However if anyone (man or woman) constantly says that they are single because it is was someone else's "fault", that person is incapable of seeing that they are the common denominator in all of their failed relationships. This is not the type of person to date or deal with. Ignore them.
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I mention age, because although it is common to meet men who are 40 and marrying younger women—most men do marry before the age of 40. The greater red flag however, is as you said, someone’s habit of perpetually placing the blame on everyone but themselves. And even if, he happens to “be the victim,” it’s problematic that at 38, 40 you are incapable of choosing less problematic people. There’s just no way to spin these things I feel once you reach an age level, because either you have a god complex that’s makes you feel you’ve done no wrong, or you have shitty judgment.
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Can we be honest about it too? I know Leos love to pretend like they never get bothered, but let’s be real...I know there’s at least that ONE time someone said something, or did something that really messed with your pride or bruised your ego. So what was it? What did they say?

My ex was a Leo - from what he told me, he hated being betrayed by his friends - people he thought he was close to, only to realize they were using him for certain things. Also not being taken seriously, repeated failures in work or when things didn't go his way. He was also used to having the spotlight all of the time in sports - but when he changed soccer leagues for example, he found that he wasn't accepted on the team as much as the first, and his teammates didn't treat him well. I often used to tell him that they didn't deserve him and that his talent should be put somewhere he was truly appreciated and respected. I knew he was upset about it though, more than he would show.

In all my past experience - Leo men are sensitive, and deep down they care a lot more than they sometimes show about many things. As a Scorp - I think that's why I'm so drawn to them.

Dealing with one, and any time I try to stand up for myself, they lash out and jump down my throat and flip it around and chastise me.

They are extremely manipulative and like to gaslight. Is this a front for those sensitivities? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a stone cold narcissists. If not, they just live up to the cliche stereotype of leos, they’re so arrogant, no one can ever be wrong. This guy has done some horrible things to me, I’ve watched him treat others in a less than considerate way. Today, he twisted it around and told me “he was the victim, and that I’m always trying to make him feel like a sh**y person.” I told him—you feel like a shitty person, because you are a shitty person. Your guilt has nothing to do with me.

If he’s not flying off in sheer rage and defense, he likes to play aloof. I had surgery a few weeks ago—hence why I was so active on DXP—when I returned to work, he literally asked me if I were on vacation.

Like he really expected me to buy, that he had no idea I was away on medical leave—even though his exact words “oh right, you had that uhhh tumor thing right? How’d that go!?”

I know I shouldn’t, I was doing so well paying him dirt. Not giving him any of my energy or time, focusing on myself and my work. But that sent me over, because it was like “wow, what shitty person pretends they don’t know someone—who they know had a tumor—had surgery!? Like who the hell does that!?”

@chuckcem would say this is an “immature” or “unevolved” Leo, but really this is just shitty Leo energy. They are the teenager of the zodiac.

The Leo sounds like a lunatic. Saying that he is an immature Leo in an understatement. Steer clear of anyone who exhibits that type of behavior.

I agree. Just seeing how well he could compose himself when he saw people walk by, just after cursing me out, all because I called him out for being fake af—pretending like you know nothing about my surgery, but then when I’m back at work you want to act concern!?

We dated. You knew about my condition. Then turned it around and accused me of being bitter and that he’s a nice guy victimized by me. Wtf! Extreme narcissism.



Anyway, I see you’re a man. Do people buy it when a man of a certain age is a bachelor, in his case he’s pushing 40, never been married and every girl people ask about, he has a story of why “she” was problematic? It’s never him who is in the wrong, it’s always something “wrong with them?”

Just curious, how’d you perceive it and if you think most would buy it.

A man being single at 40 is not an issue on its own. Most men hit their financial stride in their 40s and many choose to focus on their careers first before worrying about relationships until they become successful. This is one reason you will see older men dating younger women and starting families at that age.

However if anyone (man or woman) constantly says that they are single because it is was someone else's "fault", that person is incapable of seeing that they are the common denominator in all of their failed relationships. This is not the type of person to date or deal with. Ignore them.

I mention age, because although it is common to meet men who are 40 and marrying younger women—most men do marry before the age of 40. The greater red flag however, is as you said, couple that with his age, it’s just no one I buy that at this age you keep dating problematic people. At 24, sure, your judgment can be off. But by 38, 40 I don’t buy you keep “choosing” the wrong people, and even if you ARE the “victim,” your consistent habit of choosing toxic people says something.
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In that case you need to stop interacting with this person and keep as much distance between you as possible.
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Posted by malloryor

Can we be honest about it too? I know Leos love to pretend like they never get bothered, but let’s be real...I know there’s at least that ONE time someone said something, or did something that really messed with your pride or bruised your ego. So what was it? What did they say?

My ex was a Leo - from what he told me, he hated being betrayed by his friends - people he thought he was close to, only to realize they were using him for certain things. Also not being taken seriously, repeated failures in work or when things didn't go his way. He was also used to having the spotlight all of the time in sports - but when he changed soccer leagues for example, he found that he wasn't accepted on the team as much as the first, and his teammates didn't treat him well. I often used to tell him that they didn't deserve him and that his talent should be put somewhere he was truly appreciated and respected. I knew he was upset about it though, more than he would show.

In all my past experience - Leo men are sensitive, and deep down they care a lot more than they sometimes show about many things. As a Scorp - I think that's why I'm so drawn to them.

Dealing with one, and any time I try to stand up for myself, they lash out and jump down my throat and flip it around and chastise me.

They are extremely manipulative and like to gaslight. Is this a front for those sensitivities? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a stone cold narcissists. If not, they just live up to the cliche stereotype of leos, they’re so arrogant, no one can ever be wrong. This guy has done some horrible things to me, I’ve watched him treat others in a less than considerate way. Today, he twisted it around and told me “he was the victim, and that I’m always trying to make him feel like a sh**y person.” I told him—you feel like a shitty person, because you are a shitty person. Your guilt has nothing to do with me.

If he’s not flying off in sheer rage and defense, he likes to play aloof. I had surgery a few weeks ago—hence why I was so active on DXP—when I returned to work, he literally asked me if I were on vacation.

Like he really expected me to buy, that he had no idea I was away on medical leave—even though his exact words “oh right, you had that uhhh tumor thing right? How’d that go!?”

I know I shouldn’t, I was doing so well paying him dirt. Not giving him any of my energy or time, focusing on myself and my work. But that sent me over, because it was like “wow, what shitty person pretends they don’t know someone—who they know had a tumor—had surgery!? Like who the hell does that!?”

@chuckcem would say this is an “immature” or “unevolved” Leo, but really this is just shitty Leo energy. They are the teenager of the zodiac.

The Leo sounds like a lunatic. Saying that he is an immature Leo in an understatement. Steer clear of anyone who exhibits that type of behavior.

I agree. Just seeing how well he could compose himself when he saw people walk by, just after cursing me out, all because I called him out for being fake af—pretending like you know nothing about my surgery, but then when I’m back at work you want to act concern!?

We dated. You knew about my condition. Then turned it around and accused me of being bitter and that he’s a nice guy victimized by me. Wtf! Extreme narcissism.



Anyway, I see you’re a man. Do people buy it when a man of a certain age is a bachelor, in his case he’s pushing 40, never been married and every girl people ask about, he has a story of why “she” was problematic? It’s never him who is in the wrong, it’s always something “wrong with them?”

Just curious, how’d you perceive it and if you think most would buy it.

A man being single at 40 is not an issue on its own. Most men hit their financial stride in their 40s and many choose to focus on their careers first before worrying about relationships until they become successful. This is one reason you will see older men dating younger women and starting families at that age.

However if anyone (man or woman) constantly says that they are single because it is was someone else's "fault", that person is incapable of seeing that they are the common denominator in all of their failed relationships. This is not the type of person to date or deal with. Ignore them.

I mention age, because although it is common to meet men who are 40 and marrying younger women—most men do marry before the age of 40. The greater red flag however, is as you said, couple that with his age, it’s just no one I buy that at this age you keep dating problematic people. At 24, sure, your judgment can be off. But by 38, 40 I don’t buy you keep “choosing” the wrong people, and even if you ARE the “victim,” your consistent habit of choosing toxic people says something.

In that case you need to stop interacting with this person and keep as much distance between you as possible.
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Oh I am. I needed to experience this, to finally accept what was being shown to me all along. I think sometimes, as women, we get use to being conditioned to make ourselves smaller because speaking up for ourselves can be written off as us being a “nag” or “difficult” or “emotional.” And then I noticed, a lot of us love to believe in the impossible, we hope for a Notebook sort of fairytale ending when all the signs show this person cares next to little about our wellbeing.

This was a reality check.
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Posted by malloryor

Can we be honest about it too? I know Leos love to pretend like they never get bothered, but let’s be real...I know there’s at least that ONE time someone said something, or did something that really messed with your pride or bruised your ego. So what was it? What did they say?

My ex was a Leo - from what he told me, he hated being betrayed by his friends - people he thought he was close to, only to realize they were using him for certain things. Also not being taken seriously, repeated failures in work or when things didn't go his way. He was also used to having the spotlight all of the time in sports - but when he changed soccer leagues for example, he found that he wasn't accepted on the team as much as the first, and his teammates didn't treat him well. I often used to tell him that they didn't deserve him and that his talent should be put somewhere he was truly appreciated and respected. I knew he was upset about it though, more than he would show.

In all my past experience - Leo men are sensitive, and deep down they care a lot more than they sometimes show about many things. As a Scorp - I think that's why I'm so drawn to them.

Dealing with one, and any time I try to stand up for myself, they lash out and jump down my throat and flip it around and chastise me.

They are extremely manipulative and like to gaslight. Is this a front for those sensitivities? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a stone cold narcissists. If not, they just live up to the cliche stereotype of leos, they’re so arrogant, no one can ever be wrong. This guy has done some horrible things to me, I’ve watched him treat others in a less than considerate way. Today, he twisted it around and told me “he was the victim, and that I’m always trying to make him feel like a sh**y person.” I told him—you feel like a shitty person, because you are a shitty person. Your guilt has nothing to do with me.

If he’s not flying off in sheer rage and defense, he likes to play aloof. I had surgery a few weeks ago—hence why I was so active on DXP—when I returned to work, he literally asked me if I were on vacation.

Like he really expected me to buy, that he had no idea I was away on medical leave—even though his exact words “oh right, you had that uhhh tumor thing right? How’d that go!?”

I know I shouldn’t, I was doing so well paying him dirt. Not giving him any of my energy or time, focusing on myself and my work. But that sent me over, because it was like “wow, what shitty person pretends they don’t know someone—who they know had a tumor—had surgery!? Like who the hell does that!?”

@chuckcem would say this is an “immature” or “unevolved” Leo, but really this is just shitty Leo energy. They are the teenager of the zodiac.

The Leo sounds like a lunatic. Saying that he is an immature Leo in an understatement. Steer clear of anyone who exhibits that type of behavior.

I agree. Just seeing how well he could compose himself when he saw people walk by, just after cursing me out, all because I called him out for being fake af—pretending like you know nothing about my surgery, but then when I’m back at work you want to act concern!?

We dated. You knew about my condition. Then turned it around and accused me of being bitter and that he’s a nice guy victimized by me. Wtf! Extreme narcissism.



Anyway, I see you’re a man. Do people buy it when a man of a certain age is a bachelor, in his case he’s pushing 40, never been married and every girl people ask about, he has a story of why “she” was problematic? It’s never him who is in the wrong, it’s always something “wrong with them?”

Just curious, how’d you perceive it and if you think most would buy it.

A man being single at 40 is not an issue on its own. Most men hit their financial stride in their 40s and many choose to focus on their careers first before worrying about relationships until they become successful. This is one reason you will see older men dating younger women and starting families at that age.

However if anyone (man or woman) constantly says that they are single because it is was someone else's "fault", that person is incapable of seeing that they are the common denominator in all of their failed relationships. This is not the type of person to date or deal with. Ignore them.

I mention age, because although it is common to meet men who are 40 and marrying younger women—most men do marry before the age of 40. The greater red flag however, is as you said, couple that with his age, it’s just no one I buy that at this age you keep dating problematic people. At 24, sure, your judgment can be off. But by 38, 40 I don’t buy you keep “choosing” the wrong people, and even if you ARE the “victim,” your consistent habit of choosing toxic people says something.

In that case you need to stop interacting with this person and keep as much distance between you as possible.

Oh I am. I needed to experience this, to finally accept what was being shown to me all along. I think sometimes, as women, we get use to being conditioned to make ourselves smaller because speaking up for ourselves can be written off as us being a “nag” or “difficult” or “emotional.” And then I noticed, a lot of us love to believe in the impossible, we hope for a Notebook sort of fairytale ending when all the signs show this person cares next to little about our wellbeing.

This was a reality check.
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It's funny that you mentioned "The Notebook" because out of all of the fictional narratives that have been produced by Hollywood, that movie is one of the most deleterious to building healthy relationships. Drama and toxicity does not equal passion or love. I am happy that you can see this is not a good situation.
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Can we be honest about it too? I know Leos love to pretend like they never get bothered, but let’s be real...I know there’s at least that ONE time someone said something, or did something that really messed with your pride or bruised your ego. So what was it? What did they say?

My ex was a Leo - from what he told me, he hated being betrayed by his friends - people he thought he was close to, only to realize they were using him for certain things. Also not being taken seriously, repeated failures in work or when things didn't go his way. He was also used to having the spotlight all of the time in sports - but when he changed soccer leagues for example, he found that he wasn't accepted on the team as much as the first, and his teammates didn't treat him well. I often used to tell him that they didn't deserve him and that his talent should be put somewhere he was truly appreciated and respected. I knew he was upset about it though, more than he would show.

In all my past experience - Leo men are sensitive, and deep down they care a lot more than they sometimes show about many things. As a Scorp - I think that's why I'm so drawn to them.

Dealing with one, and any time I try to stand up for myself, they lash out and jump down my throat and flip it around and chastise me.

They are extremely manipulative and like to gaslight. Is this a front for those sensitivities? I’ll be honest, I think they’re a stone cold narcissists. If not, they just live up to the cliche stereotype of leos, they’re so arrogant, no one can ever be wrong. This guy has done some horrible things to me, I’ve watched him treat others in a less than considerate way. Today, he twisted it around and told me “he was the victim, and that I’m always trying to make him feel like a sh**y person.” I told him—you feel like a shitty person, because you are a shitty person. Your guilt has nothing to do with me.

If he’s not flying off in sheer rage and defense, he likes to play aloof. I had surgery a few weeks ago—hence why I was so active on DXP—when I returned to work, he literally asked me if I were on vacation.

Like he really expected me to buy, that he had no idea I was away on medical leave—even though his exact words “oh right, you had that uhhh tumor thing right? How’d that go!?”

I know I shouldn’t, I was doing so well paying him dirt. Not giving him any of my energy or time, focusing on myself and my work. But that sent me over, because it was like “wow, what shitty person pretends they don’t know someone—who they know had a tumor—had surgery!? Like who the hell does that!?”

@chuckcem would say this is an “immature” or “unevolved” Leo, but really this is just shitty Leo energy. They are the teenager of the zodiac.

The Leo sounds like a lunatic. Saying that he is an immature Leo in an understatement. Steer clear of anyone who exhibits that type of behavior.

I agree. Just seeing how well he could compose himself when he saw people walk by, just after cursing me out, all because I called him out for being fake af—pretending like you know nothing about my surgery, but then when I’m back at work you want to act concern!?

We dated. You knew about my condition. Then turned it around and accused me of being bitter and that he’s a nice guy victimized by me. Wtf! Extreme narcissism.



Anyway, I see you’re a man. Do people buy it when a man of a certain age is a bachelor, in his case he’s pushing 40, never been married and every girl people ask about, he has a story of why “she” was problematic? It’s never him who is in the wrong, it’s always something “wrong with them?”

Just curious, how’d you perceive it and if you think most would buy it.

A man being single at 40 is not an issue on its own. Most men hit their financial stride in their 40s and many choose to focus on their careers first before worrying about relationships until they become successful. This is one reason you will see older men dating younger women and starting families at that age.

However if anyone (man or woman) constantly says that they are single because it is was someone else's "fault", that person is incapable of seeing that they are the common denominator in all of their failed relationships. This is not the type of person to date or deal with. Ignore them.

I mention age, because although it is common to meet men who are 40 and marrying younger women—most men do marry before the age of 40. The greater red flag however, is as you said, couple that with his age, it’s just no one I buy that at this age you keep dating problematic people. At 24, sure, your judgment can be off. But by 38, 40 I don’t buy you keep “choosing” the wrong people, and even if you ARE the “victim,” your consistent habit of choosing toxic people says something.

In that case you need to stop interacting with this person and keep as much distance between you as possible.

Oh I am. I needed to experience this, to finally accept what was being shown to me all along. I think sometimes, as women, we get use to being conditioned to make ourselves smaller because speaking up for ourselves can be written off as us being a “nag” or “difficult” or “emotional.” And then I noticed, a lot of us love to believe in the impossible, we hope for a Notebook sort of fairytale ending when all the signs show this person cares next to little about our wellbeing.

This was a reality check.

It's funny that you mentioned "The Notebook" because out of all of the fictional narratives that have been produced by Hollywood, that movie is one of the most deleterious to building healthy relationships. Drama and toxicity does not equal passion or love. I am happy that you can see this is not a good situation.
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Oh yes! It’s unrealistic and unhealthy in many ways, namely Allie being the toxic one—ironically enough, we don’t see too many narratives that show the woman being bad to the man.

But anyway, I’ve always had trouble seeing the more subtle red flags. So I think I had to keep seeing them shoved in my face over and over to accept what was the reality.
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Probably be easier to ask what doesn't bruise their (our...leo dominant here) ego 😆.

Leo energy is super super sensitive and that shit hurts deeply when someone comes at us like most do. It's hard not to lash out ...it's fire after all...fire gets hot quickly but calms down and most can then see where you are coming from (as you should kinda know being an Aries moon and leo rising)...it's not the best way to go about things but it does take time to learn to curb that initial roar...think of an actual lion being attacked...they don't just sit and take it or run away, they fight and they fight hardcore...that's what it can kinda feel like. There's no warning and you're just being attacked by someone....whether they are right or wrong.

Him not remembering your surgery might have been just a way to make conversation....hear me out here. Like him pretending that (he knew) was just a way to keep talking with you...yeah, not the best way to do it but if he is awkward socially ...maybe this was the only way he could think of. I could be wayyyy off base here but that the first think that pop up in my head reading that.

I didn't read the other things hes done but just that aspect...sometimes people are just shitty and not worth your time and energy and if he displays more things you dislike...then it's time to just move on and leave him alone to self destruct in his bs.
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My leo friend that I've talk about a lot here .. was/is kinda an asshole, throws tantrums, is the epitome of the leo stereotype...but once I actually looked past that...spent more time with him, and I know this is weird to say or do...but I literally studied lions...idk made it easier to understand him and his patterns (you think with me being a leo moon...I would get it but no...I was clueless) etc...but it's all a front. He's super duper sensitive, has a huge heart, cares about his peeps hardcore and not really all that arrogant that he portrays to be. He gets on my damn nerves tho...a lllllot 🙄 and even tho I know he cares about me ...I'm not 💯 sure I could depend on him so I don't and he usually gets mad about it lol. We do have a sun/moon conjunction so take what I say with a grain of salt because sometimes I get sucked into that circle jerk energy of the back n forth and he brings out my leo moon (not the bad aspects but the child like energy...I can feel him light me up....if that makes sense)
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Posted by LostinmyMind11

Probably be easier to ask what doesn't bruise their (our...leo dominant here) ego 😆.

Leo energy is super super sensitive and that shit hurts deeply when someone comes at us like most do. It's hard not to lash out ...it's fire after all...fire gets hot quickly but calms down and most can then see where you are coming from (as you should kinda know being an Aries moon and leo rising)...it's not the best way to go about things but it does take time to learn to curb that initial roar...think of an actual lion being attacked...they don't just sit and take it or run away, they fight and they fight hardcore...that's what it can kinda feel like. There's no warning and you're just being attacked by someone....whether they are right or wrong.

Him not remembering your surgery might have been just a way to make conversation....hear me out here. Like him pretending that (he knew) was just a way to keep talking with you...yeah, not the best way to do it but if he is awkward socially ...maybe this was the only way he could think of. I could be wayyyy off base here but that the first think that pop up in my head reading that.

I didn't read the other things hes done but just that aspect...sometimes people are just shitty and not worth your time and energy and if he displays more things you dislike...then it's time to just move on and leave him alone to self destruct in his bs.

Hey, thanks for the well thought out reply. You read the situation pretty well.



I am sorry for the wall of text, but it was more so he backed me into a corner. He noticed I had been keeping my distance all week since I had came back to work. So he started trying to find ways to “accidentally” bump into me while we were alone. I initially told him I didn’t want to discuss where I was or what was going on with me, because his aloofness was so insulting. I mean, it’s not exactly like I’m so coworker he was merely an acquintance with. He was someone I was once romantically involved with. HE KNEW. He was the first person I told I would need surgery too, because I felt he should know since we were seeing each other. And not once did he show any compassion to it. I’m not saying he mocked me or anything, but he would just act cold and aloof. This was one of the things that made me break things off with him.

Attention was a one way street with him. He expected me to shower him with all the attention—yet he couldn’t even offer a simple “I hope you get well.”

The one, and only time he asked me how I was doing? Was when he was trying to get me to drop my wall and give him a second chance—just for me to be foolish, give him a second chance, and he ghost me again. Mind you, all the while when we see each other at work, I am cordial. Friendly. He even wishes me a happy birthday. So you can remember my birthday, but not put two and two together about my whereabouts—given you know my health history?

So when I left for a few weeks on medical leave, and saw that several coworkers could reach out with well wishes, and yet I hear nothing from him. It was the final picture I needed to see, to see him for who he truly is.

When I came back to work, and his first words were “welcome back, were you on vacation!?” I turned so blue, like I was so gutted, cuz it was just like he was spitting in my wounds with his attempt to act oblivious.

But here’s the thing... he plays this dumb act ALL the time, and it’s childish and insensitive af! This was just the first time I ever truly called him out on it. In the past, I use to fall for it and go being my Pisces self, making excuses for poor behavior. This time I said something. It was just too obvious and too insulting. And he dug the knife wound in even more, by cursing me out, calling me names and blaming me for his behavior.

Just disgusting.

I may be an Aries Moon and Leo Rising, but my Pisces sun keeps me pretty sensitive and aware to those around me. And one thing I’d never do, is feign ignorance to someone’s medical condition, if they had disclosed it to me, and I’d never beret them and say it’s their fault for not keeping them updated.
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My leo friend that I've talk about a lot here .. was/is kinda an asshole, throws tantrums, is the epitome of the leo stereotype...but once I actually looked past that...spent more time with him, and I know this is weird to say or do...but I literally studied lions...idk made it easier to understand him and his patterns (you think with me being a leo moon...I would get it but no...I was clueless) etc...but it's all a front. He's super duper sensitive, has a huge heart, cares about his peeps hardcore and not really all that arrogant that he portrays to be. He gets on my damn nerves tho...a lllllot 🙄 and even tho I know he cares about me ...I'm not 💯 sure I could depend on him so I don't and he usually gets mad about it lol. We do have a sun/moon conjunction so take what I say with a grain of salt because sometimes I get sucked into that circle jerk energy of the back n forth and he brings out my leo moon (not the bad aspects but the child like energy...I can feel him light me up....if that makes sense)


Well that gives me some encouragement that maybe this person, can recognize the error in the ways, feel some guilt or shame.

But honestly, I am leaning to it being a cold day in hell before he feels any ownership for his behavior. I think he may be a true narcissist.