hey all i am new to the whole chat forum thing. (Page 2)

Oh wow!!! And who said Librans were shy?

heyyyyyy! party in Amsterdam..I'm on my way lol!!

"thelibran, two of my friends that had their identities stolen were neither stupid nor rich."

did they got robbed? murdered? raped?

"ok, heres the thing...angeleyes...I think the best thing for you to is join another site where you can get the open, free, communication, and help you need."

This is a public forum. anyone can join and post anything they want. Blowing these simple things to something big bcoz few are scared of the unknown has already made this look like kindergarten. I feel that few are deliberately trying to find mistakes with angeleyes bcoz you have some sympathetic perspectives on alch. now thats childish and stupid imho. she is a libra, she should have more freedom to post here than any other sign.

"This is a public forum. anyone can join and post anything they want. Blowing these simple things to something big bcoz few are scared of the unknown has already made this look like kindergarten. I feel that few are deliberately trying to find mistakes with angeleyes bcoz you have some sympathetic perspectives on alch. now thats childish and stupid imho. she is a libra, she should have more freedom to post here than any other sign."

Thanks thelibran I appreciate it. I find it interresting that after my time here being so heavily slanted towards trying to help others and give perspective and advise where I think I will help and where it is outright asked is not taken into consideration when my g/f decides she thinks this place is interresting too and signs up and post and several members passively judge her, or the situation as a whole. I am glad I am not the only one who took some of the previous posts this way, of course they weren't straitforeward enough to not be able to hide behind plausible deniability or "good intentions" which is interresting.

Heres the deal, I am a big boy, alch and angel are big girls and seeing as how we are in the situation and therefor have infinately more insight as to what is going on and what is a good idea and what isn't....go ahead and leave that up to us. Those of you who have expressed your concerns they are out in the open so you don't have to worry about betraying alch because you "had her back". Lets move on.

Exactly my point.

* Those of you who have expressed your concerns they are out in the open so you don't have to worry about betraying alch because you "had her back".

From what I can tell, I am the only one who said I had concerns that drama might ensue. Alcheme and I are hardly friends. In fact, we don't even get a long, but I still don't think she should be treated disrespectfully or without sensitivity. You can argue it is none of my/our business but YOU chose to make all this public by doing so you stuck everyone in the middle. You should be unsurprised that people are feeling a little awkward about the situation.

At the same time,

* she is a libra, she should have more freedom to post here than any other sign.

I whole-heartedly agree. It is nice to have another libragirl around.

I have nothing, absolutely nothing against anyone this board. I speak my mind freely, as anyone else is entitled. You want something to be sugar-coated, you need to move onto the next person.

1-AngelEyes is free to post here. What most of us was surprised about was the way she introduced herself. It's not a traditional way. You can argue this all you want, but it's true.

2-Nic, you chose to reveal to anyone who reads this board of what transpired between you, Alcheme, AngelEyes, and AngelEyes boyfriend at the time (your boss). Had you not done that, some of those who found the post awkward would not have said so.

3-AngelEyes assumes we knew about her. I knew very little about her at the time of the post. What I chose to read about your situation, I pretty much had forgotten because it didn't really interest me.

4-There appears to have been a subtopic created from all of this fiasco. The main topic was AngelEyes introducing herself. Then we moved into internet safety and privacy. I still stand behind the fact that giving out personal information on a blog is not the smartest thing to do, martial artist or not.

5-I never had a personal problem with Nic or AngelEyes, or anyone on this board for that matter. I am a very direct person and not passive agressive. There may be passive agressive folks on here, but if I have an opinion, I will say and not skirt around it.

6-Nic gives good advice and I will continue to heed the advice. This episode of awkwardness, mayhem, or whatever you want to classify it will pass.

Thank you...have a great weekend. I'm off to California for 4 days...can't wait - never been.

I have no problem with Nic at all. I quite like Nic but I just think it is niave to think people aren't going to feel weird about all this.

I hope eyes sticks around, I also just think everyone should just admit it is a little weird and akward for everybody. (except thelibran ... I really don't think he cares.) Just the admittance of that fact, would probably put everyone at ease. People will adjust and in a months time no one will care but a little aknowledgement to buffer would be nice.

Maybe I am crazy.

Have fun in California HP. I am suppose to go over Christmas.

Where is Libra these days? Anyone seen her?

Alcheme doesn't seem to bothered by it so why should anyone else be bothered. I senseD a few people spitting hostility towards Angel so no Nic you weren't imagining that.

Sigh....

Where is Libra— I hope she is fine. I was thinking the same thing.

Hey guys!

Welcome to the forum, angeleyes. I figured you would probably join at some point. This is a great group of people. We don't always get along, but we try to move past it... Don't take this first thread as an assessment of the value of this forum or the people posting in it.

That being said, I would heed HP's warning. It may not scare you personally. But, from the perspective of a mother, you might want to rethink how much information you make available. You would be surprised what little information is needed to fide a hell of a lot more.

You can easily hide your first post and ask those that quoted you / mentioned your information to hide theirs too. Or, you could just delete the thread, and perhaps we could all give your introduction and welcome a second go.

LS, thanks for the concern about my feelings. I do appreciate the sentiment. I can see how other may feel a little awkward given the situation... I am sure that, given our regular communication with each other, Nic was only looking from the perspective of making me feel awkward (and knowing I would not have a problem with it) rather than the perspective of everyone else. Just a slight misunderstanding... But, I do thank you (and everyone else) for their concern about my feelings.

Oh, and for the record, LS, we have gotten along a few times... How could you have possibly forgotten?!? LOL! 😉

Alcheme - you are very mature about everything...I am impressed 🙂 Personally I think both yourself and Nic are great people, and again, really impressed with how you have both handled everything openly and honestly, especially with and to us (it could have easily been the opposite) it could have easily been the other way around and it goes to show how important this site has become hehehehe....anyway,I also welcome angeleyes to the forum - we could all do with the insights of another Libran and one who is dating a Libran 😛

//(except thelibran ... I really don't think he cares.)

I dont know if i care or not. But i really cant stand people picking on others bcoz of some silly reasons. She just stepped into a forum and straight away had to defend herself. Its like you go for a party, walk into the room full of people, and everyone start picking on you.

Bcoz few of us got fed up of political correctness and ethics and morality based nonsense in an expat forum, one of the guys started a new forum which has no moderation. Now we have all the serious people posting stuffs on that forum and the losers who cant stand sarcasm and heavy debates dont even care to post a thing. Once in a while we get some trolls and we dont ban them at all. Instead change their nickname to Troll and have a laugh. There are no rules over there and everyone is enjoying. May be bcoz 99% of the members in that forum are air and fire signs. Others simply dont fit.

Alch could have been emotional. Situation might have been looking weird for many of us. But as long as the 3 people involved understand each other, others dont have to worry abt how weird the situation looks from their own pov.

I can understand how it would make others feel akward, and Alch. was right in saying I was more concerned about her situation and Angel posting here than I was for the akwardness from everyone else. I did to an extent expect at least some akwardness, but it was one of those...theres only one way to find out kind of things. Neither Angel or I were intent on making anyone else feel akward.

About the whole first name thingy...it did get the whole thing off to a defensive start. My "calling out of" anyone to try to use that information maliciously was me incorrectly trying to convey a point. The point I was trying to convey is two fold. Both of us have pretty available personal information any way, me moreso than I from previous professional reasons. I am unlisted but easy to look up through local law enforcement information directories because of past employment like I said. Her family is very sucessful in the personal protection, high risk protection services and personal investigaion...along with my previous work experience we know exactly how easy it is to find a first name with just the few pieces of information available on this topic. I believe she made a comment above that went something like "trust me it is not that big of a deal" this was her trying to communicate it. We stopped arguing about that topic because the choices were either "I know more than you about what your lecturing me on" or conceding and both would have been pointless. The only other option to prove the point and have it dropped would be to randomly select one of those whom kept pushing for her to understand the safety reasons involved and make a post containing their full name, date of birth, phone number and a nice google map photo of their house. so we just dropped it.

Anyone on here can be located within a couple of days with no "special skills or acess" by someone who was intent on finding them, your just saving them a small amount of time. A good number of people have an account or more on other social networking sites that include name and location. Lets look at the big picture here people. The only real way to conceal your identity here is to not only not provide a name, but an age, a location, interrests, professional associations and even then an IP adress tracker can be subscribed to for about 10 dollars for one time use or even monthly.

You really want to protect yourself, use your five senses to observe and asses your immediate enviroment at all times...

have confidence in yourself and train yourself in the arena of self defense. Know your limmitations in matters of physical abilities, mental aptitude and strength of heart "willpower in terrifying odds" and how to operate within them as decisively and viciously as possible. Last but not least asses your day to day subconcious and concious behavior that will signal to others weather you are a victim or not.

You can prevent a dangerous situation or confrontation by concealing as much personal information from the outside world as possible. But everyone on here has already compromised this on at least some level registering and posting on here in the first place to someone who is intent on finding you.

No matter what they know they have to show up to do you physical harm. It essentially starts and ends there. The person who does all of the online identity concealing in the world but gets mugged between their office building and their car without ever having taken the required steps to sufficiently handle such a situation and effectively deal with it is every bit as neglectful in matters of personal responsibility and security as someone whom posts their information online.

Just some food for thought from someone whom has had to conceal identeties before, protect those identeties from others whom have expressed a disire to harm them, made themselves a target by making a living off of tracking down and confronting fugitives on their territory, in their homes, and all the while having enough personal information freely available in several mediums to be able to find where I live and drive up to my front door.

I don't mean to sound preachy, I really don't, but if were going to get into the matters of personal safety lets actually get into it and not single out a specific aspect.

i Oh, and for the record, LS, we have gotten along a few times... How could you have possibly forgotten?!? LOL

Oh yes ... there was that time in May 2005 I believe. hee hee! 🙂

No worries. I am just not good at shuffling around pink elephants. 🙂

Alls well that ends well. 🙂