Libras the most misunderstood?

Fire signs seems to see us as weak. Earth signs seem to see us as fake. Water signs seem to see us as emotionally retarded can we catch a break?! Haha.

Is it weak to not want to blow up in peoples faces and to try resolve things rationally. Is it fake to try and take on awkward/diffucult situations with a smile and a bit of humour? Is it cold to not base every decision on emotions amd how we "feel"?

I may be passive aggressive but I still get my point across, I am the strongest person I know (although I have mentioned I only really hang with Libras so maybe I'm just the least weak haha) and I can sympathize/empathize with those who have been wronged. I'm care free, fun, will always fight for the underdog (whether its me or someone I dont even know!) and Know exactly what I want and am not afraid to use my wit and charm to get it.

My scorps sister whos going through a lot at the moment actually admited the other day that she wishes she could be moe like me and not let things effect her and emotionally torment her and be less bitter about things and know how to take a joke at her expense. First time she had ever said anything positive about a Lbra lol

Libras seem to get a lot of stick! Dont hate us cuz you aint us :p

Lol. I personally don't have a problem wiith Libras. But what do I know...a lot according to some know it all who says Saggies are pretentious know it alls lol. I believe we suck more than Libras according to them. So you can have some semblance of peace 😉

Sorry, but I wouldn't want to be you. :p There's an issue when you won't stand up for yourself when you're too concerned with keeping the peace. You appear as a doormat.

Libran traits aren't bad per se, but in certain situations, they really do NOT help you all much.

You're so worried about coming off as "nice" and don't want to rock the boat that you appear fake when it comes to this approach with people that you do not care for, you appear weak because this allows people to walk all over you, and you appear cold because your decisions are not only based on "non" emotional factors, but based in a very "me" centric approach (i.e. you walk away from someone because you're done, or change your attitude toward them, but you won't tell them why because OMG CONFLICT. You run off because you hope that they just "get" it.)

I think the only time that you could be considered "misunderstood" is when you all use your traits in the most inappropriate ways. There are just some things that are common decency that a lot of Libras don't really follow (or any air sign) as they should, hence all the "hate."

example- being flaky, admitting to being flaky, and then not understanding why people want to strangle you.
Or when you don't want to face conflict with someone when disappearing/changing your attitude toward them, etc. The only reason this is a problem is because the approach caters to your emotions and has total disregard for the other party involved. Cue you guys wondering why people "hate" you.


However, in the appropriate situations, these traits aren't really bad. You're around a hostile situation with some jerk? You can keep the peace and work that Libran charm to get them to stfu.

Abusive relationship? Hypothetically, I can see you guys walking away when you're fed up (though many Librans I know keep themselves in ridiculous situations because of... dun dun dun conflict is teh scurry!).

Don't get me wrong, this isn't a hateful response, but purely observation from the many I've known. I've had to defend a few on some occasions because someone is taking advantage of their easygoing nature and it kinda pisses me off.

See this is what confuses me I dont see Libras as door mats. I have never seen a Libra stay quiet. Librans aree full of debate and questions t and have an opinion on EVERYTHING!his is why I say "misunderstood" My husband is a Libra and I definately didnt choose him because he had the ability to keep quiet and let me walk all over him lol I picked him because he's not afraid to challenge what I say. Whereas other signs (cancers in particular) I was able to walk ovr and just wanted them to stand up to me but they never did.

Most sites will say the perfect job for Librans a Lawyer/Solicitor and you dont get more confrontational then that lol.

Your description of a Libra is nothing like how I am or how the ones I know are. I have never "ran away" or "backed down" to keep the peace. My dad (cancer) has always called me a trouble maker because I always go against the crowd.

I also remember a few years ago a post where it seemed a lot of us Libras had all been debt collectors now that is hardly non confrontational lol.

To me your post proves my point exactly you just dont get us!!

@beautifulsoul I love saggis!! Dont seem.to come across many though 😢

Posted by libra sun

Your description of a Libra is nothing like how I am or how the ones I know are. I have never "ran away" or "backed down" to keep the peace. My dad (cancer) has always called me a trouble maker because I always go against the crowd.

I also remember a few years ago a post where it seemed a lot of us Libras had all been debt collectors now that is hardly non confrontational lol.

To me your post proves my point exactly you just dont get us!!

Your experience does not equal "all." Just because you haven't seen it personally doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Are you really opening your eyes to the pros and cons of your sign?

I've seen both extremes, so I get what you're saying when you describe what you know. But there's another side to them that I've seen where all the things that you mentioned people accusing Libras of HAVE happened. I think it really depends on the circumstances. If they feel confident enough in a situation or are fed up with someone's bs, then yes, out comes that very vocal and stubborn side.

Maybe the problem is that you don't "get" your sign very well because you're basing your sign on yourself and not the general populace. Sometimes you need an objective view to understand what's really going on. A lot of people think I hate Libras. They just frustrate the fuck out of me at times, but I like their qualities when they aren't allowing them to derail their lives and others' lives. I've been exposed to a freakish amount of them in my life and these are my observations from these people. What I've pointed out is the tendencies that happen and why people view them the way they do, hence all the "misunderstanding." It's something that's baffled me about the forums here- people blindly think that their sign is the best and instantly deny any cons. Every sign has pros and cons.

What I don't get is why you're up in arms about a specific group of Libras that you see people griping about the most (you won't see people coming to an advice forum about the normal ones who aren't terrorizing their lives with the usual M.O.) when you've sat here and explained how YOU aren't like that. If you know you don't have those tendencies, then no worries, right?

I am a libra my grandma is a Libra, I have a Libra uncle, two of my cousins are a Libra. I am married to a Libra at school I hung out with Libras. Most of my relationships have been with Libras. I am not basing this on ME I am basing this on my experiance with all Libras both in the real world and on this site and on what astrologers say. People come here for advise however I feel the best people to advise on Libras are Libras themselves especially since other signs really dont seem to get us at all.

People always meet exceptions to the rule. Does the Libra board seem like its full of wimps that dont stand up for themselves and run away?! Because it doesnt to me 🙂

I haven't experienced Libras really. I'm a Libra and I can only speak for myself. Objectively, I can see where Rockyroadicecream is coming from. However, it depends on how strong these characteristics are in a particular Libra.

I'm in no way weak. I know there are times when I should speak my irritation about something, but that's not often. I don't get the "fake" aspect. Is diplomacy fake? Aren't we all a bit fake/hypocrites in some social situations? I'm thinking out loud here.
As for "cold", LOL. Not me at all, but recently, in dealing with a Scorpio, I put up a cold mask to guard my heart. I just didnt feel he cared so up the mask went. Now that its all come out, I burnt the mask. LOL. Its all a defence mechanism and not limited to Libras alone.

I can admit all my flaws im flaky unreliable argumentative, stubborn, like to have the last word, make light of situations that should probably be dealt with more seriously could go on and on. I fully understand myself thanks and have a good.understanding of those around me. My flaws are just not what you state them to be. I could list other Libras flaws too but weak is not on the list of any of them.

Posted by libra sun
@beautifulsoul I love saggis!! Dont seem.to come across many though 😢

You probably did and maybe didn't know it. As for me, I see what both you and RRIC are because the truth always lies in the middle...the truth being someone's heart. It's about looking past the bull crap of the ego and seeing the heart.

*saying*

Posted by Theultra79
I feel what libra sun is saying. I do feel very misunderstood as a libra. And, I do feel on occasion very beat up by other signs on dxp.

But, there are some libras on this board who absolutely refuse to give their opinions about anything. Truly, these were the first leebs I've ever come across that matched the descriptions you read in books. Upon arrival here, I started to think maybe I'm the odd one out.

A lot of the descriptions of libra really don't have anything to do with me. I'm not very socially outgoing, not emotionally detached, I abhor flakiness, I sometimes ENJOY confrontations. And the libras I know are much like myself. My leeb sister can play the doormat role sometimes. But, that's what it is. A play.

But I, nor the other libras in my life have the fake, weak, flaky, lazy, non-confrontational traits. I started to think that maybe it's a cultural thing. I'm from a mix of 3 ethnicities, 2 of which are stereotyped loud and confrontational. Maybe growing up in an environment where everyone is encouraged to be opinionated and assertive overrides the affect of the libra sun?

Idk.

But the thing that works my nerves the most is the thing about us not having feelings. OMG. How big of an idiot to you have to be to really believe that—

A gigantic idiot.

See past the front people. Jeez.

*hugs Ultra*

C'mon Ultra...lets go grab a drink. I'm buyin! We can then talk more about how you guys are misunderstood and Sag men are commitment phobes lol.

Posted by Theultra79
I feel what libra sun is saying. I do feel very misunderstood as a libra. And, I do feel on occasion very beat up by other signs on dxp.

But, there are some libras on this board who absolutely refuse to give their opinions about anything. Truly, these were the first leebs I've ever come across that matched the descriptions you read in books. Upon arrival here, I started to think maybe I'm the odd one out.

A lot of the descriptions of libra really don't have anything to do with me. I'm not very socially outgoing, not emotionally detached, I abhor flakiness, I sometimes ENJOY confrontations. And the libras I know are much like myself. My leeb sister can play the doormat role sometimes. But, that's what it is. A play.

But I, nor the other libras in my life have the fake, weak, flaky, lazy, non-confrontational traits. I started to think that maybe it's a cultural thing. I'm from a mix of 3 ethnicities, 2 of which are stereotyped loud and confrontational. Maybe growing up in an environment where everyone is encouraged to be opinionated and assertive overrides the affect of the libra sun?

Idk.

But the thing that works my nerves the most is the thing about us not having feelings. OMG. How big of an idiot to you have to be to really believe that—

A gigantic idiot.

See past the front people. Jeez.

Yea because it's a male libra thing, not so much women. I completely agree with Rocky on what she said about leebs, but it applies to my male libra friends, not females. It's not uncommon for gender of the same sign to be different. Gem girls are very different from gem guys. Same applies to aqua women and men.

Posted by rockyroadicecream
Sorry, but I wouldn't want to be you. :p There's an issue when you won't stand up for yourself when you're too concerned with keeping the peace. You appear as a doormat.

Libran traits aren't bad per se, but in certain situations, they really do NOT help you all much.

You're so worried about coming off as "nice" and don't want to rock the boat that you appear fake when it comes to this approach with people that you do not care for, you appear weak because this allows people to walk all over you, and you appear cold because your decisions are not only based on "non" emotional factors, but based in a very "me" centric approach (i.e. you walk away from someone because you're done, or change your attitude toward them, but you won't tell them why because OMG CONFLICT. You run off because you hope that they just "get" it.)

I think the only time that you could be considered "misunderstood" is when you all use your traits in the most inappropriate ways. There are just some things that are common decency that a lot of Libras don't really follow (or any air sign) as they should, hence all the "hate."

example- being flaky, admitting to being flaky, and then not understanding why people want to strangle you.
Or when you don't want to face conflict with someone when disappearing/changing your attitude toward them, etc. The only reason this is a problem is because the approach caters to your emotions and has total disregard for the other party involved. Cue you guys wondering why people "hate" you.


However, in the appropriate situations, these traits aren't really bad. You're around a hostile situation with some jerk? You can keep the peace and work that Libran charm to get them to stfu.

Abusive relationship? Hypothetically, I can see you guys walking away when you're fed up (though many Librans I know keep themselves in ridiculous situations because of... dun dun dun conflict is teh scurry!).
Don't get me wrong, this isn't a hateful response, but purely observation from the many I've known. I've had to defend a few on some occasions because someone is taking advantage of their easygoing nature and it kinda pisses me off.

++++1. They are nice people but it's their fear of becoming the bad guy or conflict that turns them into incourteous, flakey sycophants.

I would definately agree that in general the females are stronger then the men. I personally have never cared if people like me, I tell the blunt honest truth and most.people.cant handle that which is why I have few friends lol. My mum (pisces) never used to understand me but now she finally.seems to get why I do what I do my dad still.see's me as a trouble maker.

When I was at school my parents were always being called in because I refused to back down to teachers who were getting the wrong idea about a situation. In the end my mum.started refusing to go in because she knew I was right, as child I never lied I always made it quite clear what I was doing and why even if I wasnt supposed to be doing it!

My husband likes to try and be a nice guy but he is far from a push over. He has NEVER done anything he didnt want to do and his childhood was similar to mine when it comes to disagreements with teachers.

I see Libras as the type of people who when in a restaurant and they ask if everythings fine they would be like "no actually my chips were bought out cold" when they offer a refund or another mealnto be bough out their response would be "No thanks just a new plate of hot chips would be fine.

I see conflict as neccessary I love a good debate I never shy away from one.

But my issue is MISUNDERSTANDING. My mum has called me weak before because I.dont.embrace my emotions, I see her as weak because she uses them to make decisions we both disagree with eachother but we can see where the other one is coming from. But when people say Libras are weak because they avoid conflict and run away im.like WTH?! lol

Ive always seen Libras at rebellious people who go against the grain and refuse to conform. Maragaret thatcher (ex uk prime minister) and David Cameron (current UK prime Minister) are both Libras 3rd Decan now there characters is what I associate with Libra. They also prerty evil and should.have been mentioned in the Evil Libra thread haha

I really wish some of the Libra females would learn some damned humility and realize that you guys are prone to fuck ups and being human. I will never understand why you're always denying everything and don't want to face the truth.

This isn't just in regard to this thread, but another one that I just commented on, and a few others I've seen lately.

Libra Sun, I get where you're coming from and don't deny that those Libras exist. However, you really gotta expand your horizons in regard to people and what they are and aren't capable of.

My horizons are expanded. I have met millions of people in my life and have worked in almost every city in England. Astrology isnt the be all and end all there are many different factors that effect things however in GENERAL Libras are not the way you describe them in my experience and in other people on heres experience so maybe it is you who needs to open to the fact you might just be wrong. I stated many of my.flaws further up.never tried to say I was perfect just that you were wrong about mine (and many other Libras) imperfections. I have never said Libras are NEVER a certain way in this thread I stated they are misunderstood and stated why and if you look.at the other thread the question was have you ever come across evil Libras and my answers is NO. That doesnt make me naive or ignorant or unwordly just means I havnt. I have also never came across a snow leopard doesnt mean I doubt their existance :p

Posted by Theultra79
@ rocky

Why are you so sure that the libras females don't have any humility? Don't remember any of us saying we were perfect or without fault. I have faults, vast and varied. But, I'm not gonna admit to the ones I don't have because someone who doesn't even know me, is certain I have certain traits because I'm a libra. Thats just crazy.

Would I be right to accuse you of having all the negative traits of an Aries? Or even the positive ones? And furthermore, would I be right to say you were in denial when you didn't claim some of them?

No. No. And no.

Why are you twisting what I said?

My whole point was that there have been several threads started about this topic, and the very same people pitch in their 2 cents and it's usually to absolve ALL Libras of the bs that they cause. They make excuses and JUSTIFY the shitty behavior. THAT is what I'm referring to. Nowhere did I say that you had to admit to faults that were not your own, only to admit that your sign *gasp* has people who DO have these faults.

Example- shitty Libra does a shitty thing.
The usual brigade- "WELL THEY PROBABLY DID IT BECAUSE OF THIS. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM BEING A DICK. IT'S OKAY BECAUSE BLAH BLAH."
...but they were an asshole. It still makes them an asshole.
"WELL YOU MUST HAVE DONE SOMETHING. WE "MIRROR" YOU KNOW."
...but they're still being an asshole.
(insert more excuses and flawed logic for one being an asshole). I'm not the only one who's noticed that trend. I will never understand why anyone, of any sign, sits there and blindly defends their sign. Who gives a shit? If you're not like the shitty group within your sign, no need to defend, right?

And why are you all taking everything so personally if you know these bad traits don't apply to you? Why do you assume that "some" means "you?" Whenever I see people bitch about Aries, I usually don't give a shit because it doesn't apply to me. You lot should try the same. Simmer down, yo.

Oh Spica. You be precious. Keep on keepin' on.

Libras cant win. We get accused of being weak cowards who run away then we get called when we fight our corner?!

@Spica with Aries/Libra It always seems Offensive/Defensive. Think Aries attack without even realising they are doing it lol.

@EEP You are so right, It gets exhausting being right all the time :p

If by she you mean me why can I not have met millions of people? Over 8 million people live in my city alone. I work in promotions /hostessing around the country and have done on and off for 8 years. Do you honestly think its hard to have intercted with millions of people in 25 years?

Posted by libra sun
Fire signs seems to see us as weak. Earth signs seem to see us as fake. Water signs seem to see us as emotionally retarded can we catch a break?! Haha.

Libras seem to get a lot of stick! Dont hate us cuz you aint us :p

Fire here: never met a weak Libra in my life.

The rational is to see the flaws in yourself and then project that at a sign as their own. The weak, fake, and emotionally retarded are the flaws people have spoken on each of the signs in those elements you mentioned. What does other air see in Libra? Doesn't matter.

True people see the true you no matter the circumstances. People who don't know themselves see the most flaws

@Ultra: We do have A LOT to talk about lol 😉 Kimchi and sushi are one of my favorites! Is there a reggae club near this joint?

Posted by rockyroadicecream
Oh Spica. You be precious. Keep on keepin' on.

I have had enough of this Lirba/Ares thing. Don't want it to be a theme of 2013.

Posted by Librasun
@Spica with Aries/Libra It always seems Offensive/Defensive. Think Aries attack without even realising they are doing it lol.

Yup you're definitely right...

Posted by gandalf
It's just a compatibility thing really. Just surround yourself with sags and you will be really loved and admired. As a leo i have great time with Geminis for example but i know sags can't stand them.

It's not about Aries or Libra being wrong or right but more about who Aries and Libra will get along best with. certainly people admire Libras as they are and certainly people admire Aries as they are.

Just remember to admire Leos at the end of the day and everything will go well

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Nice to see Gandalf play peacemaker regarding this dilemma.. 😉

My sister the aries sun, married to a libra isn't abrasive. I believe that's the problem here. The abrasiveness is too much for strong libra folks. Some kindness would help. You can go a long way with honey than acid?

I don't date Libra men. They are more like brothers and uncles to me. I am just not attracted to their energy in a romantic way. A Libra guy had a crush on me back in the day and I just wasn't feeling him. He got a little whiny and I ignored him and it seemed to be fine between us after that.I hear all kinds of horror stories about dating Libra men but, for some reason I just can't envision them being that bad. I have heard that they are passive-aggressive, uptight, and can be super cold.

Is anyone else loling at the fact that this thread is about "misunderstandings" yet it's rampant amongst those who have been against any sort of rational thinking or looking beyond their own noses?

Posted by libra sun

@Spica with Aries/Libra It always seems Offensive/Defensive. Think Aries attack without even realising they are doing it lol.

And you seem to enjoy getting offended just for the sake of getting offended? You don't seem to like honesty no matter how it's delivered, imo. Doesn't take much to offend a lot of Libra females.

Also, I wouldn't be bragging about being "right" all the time when you make up overinflated numbers like "millions of people," produce flawed logic, and are so narrow minded that you cannot accept that there are crappy people within your sign and NOT take it personally. Open that mind, chica. I will be forever amazed that so many of you can embrace bullshit but not the truth. It's what gets so many of you into binds and on people's bad sides.

Again, if you know that these bad traits don't apply to you, then why worry or get so offended? If you were truly happy with who you are, you wouldn't allow all the misunderstandings get to you, ESPECIALLY if they don't apply to you. Let those who are guilty of all these craptastic things take the heat. If someone accuses you personally of being any of these things that you know you aren't, well fuck them. As long as you allow yourself to be a good person and aren't selfish toward others, you be you. End of story. If anything, those bad examples should prove to be a learning experience for you, and that goes for ANY sign, tbh.

Posted by oldskoolflavor
porkylovesicecream is giving it raw to libra sun .. libra sun can't get enough

She knows Libras so well but doesnt know how much they love winding people up. The fact she thinks 'm offended is hilarious. keep it coming I can go all night 😉

Also is rocky the old amethyst?!?! I remember she loved to hate Libras and thry sound the same or is it an Aries thing?!?!

Ps rocky 5000 (amount of samples to be given out to individuals in a week) X 5days a week work X 8 years (amount of years working in promotions) = over 2 million and thats before I even count my hostessing work school/college/night jobs etc. Really not hard to meet people if you dont spend all your time engaging in ridiculous conversation on dxp 🙂

*should say 1000 not 5000 now that would be an exageration! Haha

I dont feel misunderstood in real life. I surround myself with people who get me, bar a few family members who.obviously I didnt get to.choose. The post was a reference to my experiences with this site mainly 🙂

I dont feel misunderstood in real life. I surround myself with people who get me, bar a few family members who.obviously I didnt get to.choose. The post was a reference to my experiences with this site mainly 🙂

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Posted by beautifulsoul74
@Ultra: We do have A LOT to talk about lol 😉 Kimchi and sushi are one of my favorites! Is there a reggae club near this joint?

In walking distance 🙂

live reggae at that

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Sounds like a winner! We do have to dance, ya know. You up for it?

"Let us, on both sides, lay aside all arrogance. Let us not, on either side, claim that we have already discovered the truth. Let us seek it together as something which is known to neither of us. For then only may we seek it, lovingly and tranquilly, if there be no bold presumption that it is already discovered and possessed." - St. Augustine

Something I live by...

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@Ultra: We do have A LOT to talk about lol 😉 Kimchi and sushi are one of my favorites! Is there a reggae club near this joint?

In walking distance 🙂

live reggae at that

Sounds like a winner! We do have to dance, ya know. You up for it?

Lol...we went from drinking while bitching and moaning to dancing the night away at a reggae club. Typical sag/leeb behavior. We don't stay down for long do we?! Hahaha 🙂

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We sure don't lol. I guess it's the deep understanding of ourselves, life, and the positivity that connects us. What brand of apple cider beer do you drink?

I have. I like Guiness and Wood chuck as well. Whole Foods does have good beers. I tend to stick with the Growlers. Jack's Hard Cider and Manayunk Rye of the Tiger are a couple. They're great! You like anything with your beer?

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Posted by beautifulsoul74
I have. I like Guiness and Wood chuck as well. Whole Foods does have good beers. I tend to stick with the Growlers. Jack's Hard Cider and Manayunk Rye of the Tiger are a couple. They're great! You like anything with your beer?

I'll have to give those a try. I've definetly heard of jacks before.

I like spicy wings with my beer :p

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I'm pretty sure you're spicy already 😉 I like wings too, but I actually prefer a good burger. There's this new spot not even a couple of blocks from my house. They got voted the bet burgers in town AND they serve Woodchuck. Now we're on burgers...diet is completely blown out of the water lol.

Finally, water signs find Libras are bankrupt at heart? How many of them are humanitarians...OR, are they primarily absorbed with their OWN emotional life rather than his/hers/theirs/yours?

This part resonates with me. Something I've been thinking about in recent times.

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I have. I like Guiness and Wood chuck as well. Whole Foods does have good beers. I tend to stick with the Growlers. Jack's Hard Cider and Manayunk Rye of the Tiger are a couple. They're great! You like anything with your beer?

I'll have to give those a try. I've definetly heard of jacks before.

I like spicy wings with my beer :p

I'm pretty sure you're spicy already 😉 I like wings too, but I actually prefer a good burger. There's this new spot not even a couple of blocks from my house. They got voted the bet burgers in town AND they serve Woodchuck. Now we're on burgers...diet is completely blown out of the water lol.

Pffff! Diets are for chumps anyway 😄

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Lol...one cannot live on bread alone 😉

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Posted by libra sun
Fire signs seems to see us as weak. Earth signs seem to see us as fake. Water signs seem to see us as emotionally retarded can we catch a break?! Haha.

Libras seem to get a lot of stick! Dont hate us cuz you aint us :p

Fire here: never met a weak Libra in my life.

The rational is to see the flaws in yourself and then project that at a sign as their own. The weak, fake, and emotionally retarded are the flaws people have spoken on each of the signs in those elements you mentioned. What does other air see in Libra? Doesn't matter.

True people see the true you no matter the circumstances. People who don't know themselves see the most flaws

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oooo..and Flavia comes in with a sneak-diss burn.....yowza!

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Posted by libra sun
Fire signs seems to see us as weak. Earth signs seem to see us as fake. Water signs seem to see us as emotionally retarded

For the sheer purpose of objectivity, no element can be favored by all.

You say Fire thinks Libras are pushovers? In the same breath, some view Fire signs as self-absorbed, egotistical pseudo-tough-guys who rely on overcompensation to mask shortcomings or an inferiority complex.

Earth signs are allegedly convinced of our superficiality, yet they are known for placing immense value on assets such as money, territory and various other possessions--some even dedicate their lives to obtaining such luxuries. Libras are fake? Please.

Finally, water signs find Libras are bankrupt at heart? How many of them are humanitarians...OR, are they primarily absorbed with their OWN emotional life rather than his/hers/theirs/yours?
While our outlook certainly isn't filtered by emotion, we are far from heartless however our feelings are not all-consuming. Realistically, experiencing & dealing with personal feelings is an individual responsibility...why project them onto others as if it's the world's new priority?

/devil's advocate 🙂

Posted by libra sun
Is it weak to not want to blow up in peoples faces and to try resolve things rationally. Is it fake to try and take on awkward/diffucult situations with a smile and a bit of humour? Is it cold to not base every decision on emotions amd how we "feel"?

No. You're damned if you do & damned if you don't. At the end of the day most folks' understanding of you isn't worth a damn, especially those who don't appreciate your self-control in the midst of adversity.

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Shut it down!!! this post is ovah!!

Whaaaatever.

People are such liars. They claim they hate "fake"ness, diplomacy and conflict-avoidance, but the minute someone actually DOES call them out, they get upset and defensive.

People just get angry that Libras won't fall into their emo traps. They won't indulge someone in a reaction.

People want to get reactions out of others. It helps them feel they matter.

Libras deprive them of that...and let the Libra-bashing begin.

Dragon breath boy needs to brush his teeth. Leebs don't dig halitosis.

I can't decide. im jus a liddo leebraaa.... ;(

Being a libra, people that aren't super close to us, only know the surface. We are actually probably the strongest of the zodiac. We push aside our own emotions, and make rational decisions. We also stand up for fairness and justice. I've noticed through life, that many people will cry about petty things. Libras want to change the world. Their strength is overlooked by their peaceful nature. But don't let that fool you. I've had to stand up and do the most difficult things, that I know many others couldn't do. I'm not saying that to brag on myself, I'm saying that to encourage other Libras. We are misunderstood, but what others view as a weakness it actually a strength. Be proud of that! Also Libras, it's hard for us to feel misunderstood because we understand or try to understand everyone. It hurts when others don't give us the same time and attention.

Posted by rockyroadicecream
Sorry, but I wouldn't want to be you. :p There's an issue when you won't stand up for yourself when you're too concerned with keeping the peace. You appear as a doormat.

Libran traits aren't bad per se, but in certain situations, they really do NOT help you all much.

You're so worried about coming off as "nice" and don't want to rock the boat that you appear fake when it comes to this approach with people that you do not care for, you appear weak because this allows people to walk all over you, and you appear cold because your decisions are not only based on "non" emotional factors, but based in a very "me" centric approach (i.e. you walk away from someone because you're done, or change your attitude toward them, but you won't tell them why because OMG CONFLICT. You run off because you hope that they just "get" it.)

I think the only time that you could be considered "misunderstood" is when you all use your traits in the most inappropriate ways. There are just some things that are common decency that a lot of Libras don't really follow (or any air sign) as they should, hence all the "hate."

example- being flaky, admitting to being flaky, and then not understanding why people want to strangle you.
Or when you don't want to face conflict with someone when disappearing/changing your attitude toward them, etc. The only reason this is a problem is because the approach caters to your emotions and has total disregard for the other party involved. Cue you guys wondering why people "hate" you.


However, in the appropriate situations, these traits aren't really bad. You're around a hostile situation with some jerk? You can keep the peace and work that Libran charm to get them to stfu.

Abusive relationship? Hypothetically, I can see you guys walking away when you're fed up (though many Librans I know keep themselves in ridiculous situations because of... dun dun dun conflict is teh scurry!).

Don't get me wrong, this isn't a hateful response, but purely observation from the many I've known. I've had to defend a few on some occasions because someone is taking advantage of their easygoing nature and it kinda pisses me off.

Your post just gave me insight into why some people hate on some signs. I think people interpret info on signs too literally. For example, saying that a person favors compromises to buy peace is NOT tantamount to saying someone is a doormat. I like peace and the tool I use most often to buy it is in fact compromise. But I value fairness, so there are times when I ask, sometimes require, other people to make compromises. I sometimes moderate other people's arguments and I will push them to compromise. Is this the description of a doormat? Also, like most Libras, I value fairness, and I thus have limits which I don't allow people to transgress. I am in fact the one who tends to tell others to quit being doormats. Last time, I told an Aries to quit being a doormat.

I also think reading your post that you credit too much of a person's behavior to their Sun sign alone. What about their other signs? The way they were raised? Their life experience? The influence other people have had on them? You can't discount that!

Maybe a third of your post applies to me. It could apply just as much to a person of any Sun sign. Your post also reads a lot like it was copied from a general description of Libras and modified to be credible on this forum. Not betting it was, but I can't shake the impression.

Posted by Librared1004
Being a libra, people that aren't super close to us, only know the surface. We are actually probably the strongest of the zodiac. We push aside our own emotions, and make rational decisions. We also stand up for fairness and justice. I've noticed through life, that many people will cry about petty things. Libras want to change the world. Their strength is overlooked by their peaceful nature. But don't let that fool you. I've had to stand up and do the most difficult things, that I know many others couldn't do. I'm not saying that to brag on myself, I'm saying that to encourage other Libras. We are misunderstood, but what others view as a weakness it actually a strength. Be proud of that! Also Libras, it's hard for us to feel misunderstood because we understand or try to understand everyone. It hurts when others don't give us the same time and attention.

Of course, when you say "it's hard for us to feel misunderstood", what you mean to say is not that a Libra can't easily conceive that others might misunderstand them, but rather that it is a pain in the butt to not be heard out when we invest so much of ourselves into trying to make sense of other people, even the nuttiest, just so we can be fair to them. Right? Because I do have that problem of taking the time to listen and understand that somehow seems to be expected of me but no one ever really returns the favor, so I always end up the scapegoat because I am "soooo weird!". That really sucks... 😢

Posted by Librared1004
Being a libra, people that aren't super close to us, only know the surface. We are actually probably the strongest of the zodiac. We push aside our own emotions, and make rational decisions. We also stand up for fairness and justice. I've noticed through life, that many people will cry about petty things. Libras want to change the world. Their strength is overlooked by their peaceful nature. But don't let that fool you. I've had to stand up and do the most difficult things, that I know many others couldn't do. I'm not saying that to brag on myself, I'm saying that to encourage other Libras. We are misunderstood, but what others view as a weakness it actually a strength. Be proud of that! Also Libras, it's hard for us to feel misunderstood because we understand or try to understand everyone. It hurts when others don't give us the same time and attention.

Wow I'm Libra dominant, with Libra moon too. I can totally relate and agree with that post. I don't think many are as mentally strong as I am, the things I've had to go through, didn't crack under the pressure and it's definitely over looked because of my peaceful nature.

Posted by shakedown
I can't and won't judge the entire sign based on the few that I have known; however, the few that I have known have been narcissist.

One of the few truly sensible comments. 😉

I am not surprised at the narcissist impression. I have had that comment before. I do believe it is the wrong word for the know-it-all streak we seem to have. We are intellectual and social, so we talk a lot, through which we develop a certain verve (which we already possess plenty of from the get-go), and when you combine the verve, the knowledge and the talkativeness, it makes sense to have that impression.

To me, it is nothing more than an impression. I am just having fun sharing and discussing knowledge, taking in as much as I provide. I do lose patience with and get bossy around people who partake in debate when they obviously suck at debate, but since bias and cognitive dissonance are mortal sins, I don't feel guilty about meting out commensurate punishment. 😉

Posted by WonderWoman14

Posted by Librared1004
Being a libra, people that aren't super close to us, only know the surface. We are actually probably the strongest of the zodiac. We push aside our own emotions, and make rational decisions. We also stand up for fairness and justice. I've noticed through life, that many people will cry about petty things. Libras want to change the world. Their strength is overlooked by their peaceful nature. But don't let that fool you. I've had to stand up and do the most difficult things, that I know many others couldn't do. I'm not saying that to brag on myself, I'm saying that to encourage other Libras. We are misunderstood, but what others view as a weakness it actually a strength. Be proud of that! Also Libras, it's hard for us to feel misunderstood because we understand or try to understand everyone. It hurts when others don't give us the same time and attention.

Wow I'm Libra dominant, with Libra moon too. I can totally relate and agree with that post. I don't think many are as mentally strong as I am, the things I've had to go through, didn't crack under the pressure and it's definitely over looked because of my peaceful nature.

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Count me in, I am much like that, too. To me, it is a curse because people tend to conclude I am a masochist, thus a doormat, and thus start dumping their butter on me, because "it's a piece of cake for you, right?". Then, I have to tell them I will take on their butter if they take on mine, and I come off as insensitive to THEIR treetrunking needs, like I didn't have any of my own.

It is not because I still stand long after others have fallen that I enjoy it and that it doesn't leave scars. And if I didn't quit when others did, it is not because I enjoy getting the blows intended for others.