Go Kill Yourself? (Page 4)

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Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by truecap
All I'm saying, is think about the words you are saying to another person. Think about the possible consequences of those words. What those words can do.

Our world would be a much happier place if words were chosen more correctly.

Our choice of language shows our character and breeding.

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And yes, there are plenty more than CC who say hateful and hate-filled things.

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the fuck does breeding have to do with anything?

Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11

Posted by SpiceNSugar

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by truecap
All I'm saying, is think about the words you are saying to another person. Think about the possible consequences of those words. What those words can do.

Our world would be a much happier place if words were chosen more correctly.

Our choice of language shows our character and breeding.

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+2 billion

And yes, there are plenty more than CC who say hateful and hate-filled things.

the fuck does breeding have to do with anything?

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In this context, it looks like she means how you were raised, in regard to manners.


breeding

politeness; genteel deportment.


breed??ing (br—_d?_ng)
n.

Training in the proper forms of social and personal conduct.

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Posted by DAMEN VI
I personally incourage suicide for others..i've done this plenty of times on here when random people ask for advise..some may have even took my advise because they havent posted again..

I dont live in the UK thou..

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Posted by DAMEN VI
I personally incourage suicide for others..i've done this plenty of times on here when random people ask for advise..some may have even took my advise because they havent posted again..

well the law is the law looks like I won't be telling anyone to kill themselves anytime in the future??_.especially James Tate because he lives in england??_and to think I could have been jailed??_.😢

Its just crazy??_with all the suicides that go on with kids where the fuck are the parents—_..their negligence is astounding especially when kids are on social networks and the shit they are subjected to??_??_they should have courses in school on how to deal with the internet??_.my kid won't ever allowed to have a Facebook

What happened to Amanda Todd is very sad ... however ...

... her parents were negligent.

She was moved to several different schools to get away from being tormented, one of her cyber bullies contacted her entire family to fuck with her, and she was a severe cutter.

Her parents were divorced and likely more concerned about their failed relationship.

The signs were fucking slapping them in the face that their daughter was in dire need.

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Posted by LetltB

Posted by truecap

The purpose of this thread is to bring attention to some users that they might want to reconsider their use of words, especially these words.

Seriously? Sounds like the new and evolved thought police to me.
Although DXP has rules here, I did not read in anywhere that I'm responsible for mentally unstable individuals who may be offended. If that were the case dxp wouldn't exist.😢


I'm really out now..lol

Rules or not. Legally, users are not responsible. Morally, they should be.

What makes you think they are not morally held accountable—
They will be.

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We're all held accountable for our actions and words on judgement day.

Posted by truecap

We're all held accountable for our actions and words on judgement day.

That concept is a thorn in my side .... it suggests that humans are so uncivilized/barbaric that they have to held to a threat to be good, otherwise, without this intimidation, they would resort to bad actions.

And the scary part is .... there's a lot of fucking people who are ONLY good because they are in fear of being watched by a mightier force.

Posted by P-Angel

What happened to Amanda Todd is very sad ... however ...

... her parents were negligent.

I agree.

This frame:



That shouldn't have been her choice.

I don't assume her parents were "more concerned about their failed relationship", though; there's really no way to know.

I can see her freaking out, and begging her parents not to press charges-- and they probably accommodated her because she was already such a mess.

But they should have pressed charges; ultimately, the publicity and public outcry would have or could have changed her perception and possibly vindicated her, in her own eyes.

And she would have known that she was worth fighting for-- I really wish they had blown up the media with this.

Posted by MrFirebird
Who on this forum could be the next Amanda Todd—

It's a sensible law that I can see passing, provided
there is enough support.

Everyone had better take this "Go Kill Yourself" crap, seriously.

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Glad you posted this-- I just smh.

And while I'm not a fan of legislating hard to define offenses (this case was pretty clear), esp regarding speech, if this is true:


fighting words n.

words intentionally directed toward another person which are so nasty and full of malice as to cause the hearer to suffer emotional distress or incite him/her to immediately retaliate physically (hit, stab, shoot, etc.) While such words are not an excuse or defense for a retaliatory assault and battery, if they are threatening they can form the basis for a lawsuit for assault.



Then it stands to reason that the same should apply when the victim inflicts harm on him/herself.


If more people had known and objected in the beginning, it could have been avoided.

Unfortunately, there is a tendency for people to adopt a "mind your own business" or "don't get involved" stance, in instances like this.

Don't mean to derail, TC.. sorry.

this a cold world..we got babies out here starving & kids getting sold as sex slaves, but you think i suppose to give a fuck about some weak ass,priviledged girl that decides to kill herself because she was cyber bullied?? man fuck that bitch and hope she burning in hell..and im dead serious

after watching the Amanda video I would have to say that parents in general are negligent as fuck??_why weren't the police called that a guy was circulating pictures of a minors breasts—_.Why did they even bother to send her to school the second and third time—_.I would have homeschooled her ass and never let her see the light of day again because she's being stalked by a predator??_..I would have made her join a gym, learn self defence to give her back her confidence??_.My mind is flying with answers as to why this didn't have to happen??_..this is a very extreme case of bullying and for it to go on as long as it did and nothing be done about it I'm glad her suffering is over

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Posted by truecap

We're all held accountable for our actions and words on judgement day.

That concept is a thorn in my side .... it suggests that humans are so uncivilized/barbaric that they have to held to a threat to be good, otherwise, without this intimidation, they would resort to bad actions.

And the scary part is .... there's a lot of fucking people who are ONLY good because they are in fear of being watched by a mightier force.

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I don't want to turn this thread into a religious thing or get into a religious discussion (that's another thread topic), but I understand what you're getting at. A lot of religions say that someone can "be good" but the supreme being knows what is in their heart. So it doesn't matter how well and nice you behave publically, its what in your heart (which indirectly dictates your actions) that you have to answer for on judgement day.

Posted by DAMEN VI
this a cold world..we got babies out here starving & kids getting sold as sex slaves, but you think i suppose to give a fuck about some weak ass,priviledged girl that decides to kill herself because she was cyber bullied?? man fuck that bitch and hope she burning in hell..and im dead serious

Of course no one expects you to give a fuck.

You only value the lives of those with whom you identify; not life, itself.

Posted by Montgomery

Posted by DAMEN VI
this a cold world..we got babies out here starving & kids getting sold as sex slaves, but you think i suppose to give a fuck about some weak ass,priviledged girl that decides to kill herself because she was cyber bullied?? man fuck that bitch and hope she burning in hell..and im dead serious

Of course no one expects you to give a fuck.

You only value the lives of those with whom you identify; not life, itself.

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Nailed it.

Posted by thebiggcarlos12345678910

i NEVER once told nobody to go kill themselves here nor in real life.

Posted by thebiggcarlos12345678910

i could really care less if that CluelessCancer chick kill herself tho. and if she actually do it, i think dxp would be better off 🙂. sorry i didn't mean to offend anyone but that's how i feel. it is what it is.

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At least admit it don't be like??_"WOULD NEVER TELL SOMEONE TO GO KILL THEMSELVES" and then when you get quoted be all pedantic about what you said??_.

You can't just say something like that and then sit on the fence and say "sorry if I offend anyone"??_.if your gonna say something then say it??_.if you didn't mean it then take it back but don't piss on peoples legs and tell them its raining.

Posted by Montgomery

Posted by DAMEN VI
this a cold world..we got babies out here starving & kids getting sold as sex slaves, but you think i suppose to give a fuck about some weak ass,priviledged girl that decides to kill herself because she was cyber bullied?? man fuck that bitch and hope she burning in hell..and im dead serious

Of course no one expects you to give a fuck.

You only value the lives of those with whom you identify; not life, itself.

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People are in here talking about laws should be made against people for telling someone online to go kill themselves..so obviously somebody does expect me to care..i feel that if people are allowed to be racist online & make racist websites like stormfront, then you should be allowed to say whatever you want

And i respect the lives of certain people outside of whom i identify with..i cant respect suicidal people thou..

It was a young white guy at my job that killed himself over his chick awhile ago,and i told my co workers how i thought he was weak as fuck for doing that too..and they agreed.

I told yall carlos was a simpleton..pay him no mind

Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11
don't piss on peoples legs and tell them its raining.

Hahahaha!!! That phrase is hilarious! Haven't heard it before.

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Posted by Montgomery

Posted by DAMEN VI
this a cold world..we got babies out here starving & kids getting sold as sex slaves, but you think i suppose to give a fuck about some weak ass,priviledged girl that decides to kill herself because she was cyber bullied?? man fuck that bitch and hope she burning in hell..and im dead serious

Of course no one expects you to give a fuck.

You only value the lives of those with whom you identify; not life, itself.

People are in here talking about laws should be made against people for telling someone online to go kill themselves..so obviously somebody does expect me to care..i feel that if people are allowed to be racist online & make racist websites like stormfront, then you should be allowed to say whatever you want

And i respect the lives of certain people outside of whom i identify with..i cant respect suicidal people thou..

It was a young white guy at my job that killed himself over his chick awhile ago,and i told my co workers how i thought he was weak as fuck for doing that too..and they agreed.

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It's hard to understand why someone would choose suicide. To me, they are lacking something and can't function within our world any longer. It's not a weakness.

Sometimes to understand it has to happen close to home.

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Posted by DAMEN VI
this a cold world..we got babies out here starving & kids getting sold as sex slaves, but you think i suppose to give a fuck about some weak ass,priviledged girl that decides to kill herself because she was cyber bullied?? man fuck that bitch and hope she burning in hell..and im dead serious

Of course no one expects you to give a fuck.

You only value the lives of those with whom you identify; not life, itself.

People are in here talking about laws should be made against people for telling someone online to go kill themselves..so obviously somebody does expect me to care..i feel that if people are allowed to be racist online & make racist websites like stormfront, then you should be allowed to say whatever you want

And i respect the lives of certain people outside of whom i identify with..i cant respect suicidal people thou..

It was a young white guy at my job that killed himself over his chick awhile ago,and i told my co workers how i thought he was weak as fuck for doing that too..and they agreed.

It's hard to understand why someone would choose suicide. To me, they are lacking something and can't function within our world any longer. It's not a weakness.

Sometimes to understand it has to happen close to home.

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They are so depressed they can't see they have other options. They are so caught up in their despair, they can't see the forest for the trees. They aren't thinking clearly.

When they are at their lowest like that, sometimes they hid it and often times people don't realize how fragile they really are. They feel depressed and worthless and unloved. Sometimes they will shut themselves off from the outside world and their only social outlet might be an internet forum. Then, even there, they feel unliked, unloved and worthless. Someone's words, not meant to be serious, could be the final step in helping them make their decision.

How many people to we see post, get discouraged by rude behavior and never come back.

We have no idea what happened to them or how their story ended.

This probably wasn't a suicidal case, but I remember about a year and half ago, there was a woman who was abused by her boyfriend. Everyone was encouraging her leave him. Some people even got on here and accused her of causing her own abuse such as in her actions set it off or she deserved what she got, etc. All of a sudden she didn't come back. We were all wondering what happened to her and was worried that he did something to her.

So, you never know what someone's situation is.

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Posted by Montgomery

Posted by DAMEN VI
this a cold world..we got babies out here starving & kids getting sold as sex slaves, but you think i suppose to give a fuck about some weak ass,priviledged girl that decides to kill herself because she was cyber bullied?? man fuck that bitch and hope she burning in hell..and im dead serious

Of course no one expects you to give a fuck.

You only value the lives of those with whom you identify; not life, itself.

People are in here talking about laws should be made against people for telling someone online to go kill themselves..so obviously somebody does expect me to care..i feel that if people are allowed to be racist online & make racist websites like stormfront, then you should be allowed to say whatever you want

You sound just like those horrible people.

Jeezus.

Posted by DAMEN VI
And i respect the lives of certain people outside of whom i identify with..i cant respect suicidal people thou..

It was a young white guy at my job that killed himself over his chick awhile ago,and i told my co workers how i thought he was weak as fuck for doing that too..and they agreed.

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So?

People that are suicidal *are* weak; that's the point.

lol @ "certain"

Posted by truecap
How many people to we see post, get discouraged by rude behavior and never come back.

We have no idea what happened to them or how their story ended.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^True dat!

Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11

Posted by SpiceNSugar

Posted by MrFirebird

Posted by truecap
All I'm saying, is think about the words you are saying to another person. Think about the possible consequences of those words. What those words can do.

Our world would be a much happier place if words were chosen more correctly.

Our choice of language shows our character and breeding.

+1

+2 billion

And yes, there are plenty more than CC who say hateful and hate-filled things.

the fuck does breeding have to do with anything?

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I don't think he meant "breeding" in the literal sense, but more in an "ideological" sense??

Posted by aquapiscescusp

It's hard to understand why someone would choose suicide. To me, they are lacking something and can't function within our world any longer. It's not a weakness.

Sometimes to understand it has to happen close to home.

+100

There was a kid across the street that I knew who committed suicide. Frankly, it was really sad even though I had just seen the kid around. He was only 16.

interesting bit of information - more males commit suicide than females??_..the only countries where females commit suicide more than the boys are hong kong and sao tome in africa..

Posted by Nemesis
it was meant as one's upbringing - how one was raised....

Thanks for simplifying what I was trying to say 😉

Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11
interesting bit of information - more males commit suicide than females??_..the only countries where females commit suicide more than the boys are hong kong and sao tome in africa..

I heard that it's because girls are more fearful of it that boys but no matter what...it's sad.

or it could be because boys repress their feelings and don't cry as much as girls making them emotionally retarded

Posted by SpiceNSugar

Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11
interesting bit of information - more males commit suicide than females??_..the only countries where females commit suicide more than the boys are hong kong and sao tome in africa..

I heard that it's because girls are more fearful of it that boys but no matter what...it's sad.

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Not sure about that??_ a female friend of mine jumped in the subway, she was 20. This happens more than we know and shit, that takes some courage or whatever you want to call it.

Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11
or it could be because boys repress their feelings and don't cry as much as girls making them emotionally retarded

A possibility also 🙂

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Posted by SpiceNSugar

Posted by Nemesis
it was meant as one's upbringing - how one was raised....

Thanks for simplifying what I was trying to say 😉

lol. sorry 😄

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Not a problem 😉

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Posted by SpiceNSugar

Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11
interesting bit of information - more males commit suicide than females??_..the only countries where females commit suicide more than the boys are hong kong and sao tome in africa..

I heard that it's because girls are more fearful of it that boys but no matter what...it's sad.

Not sure about that??_ a female friend of mine jumped in the subway, she was 20. This happens more than we know and shit, that takes some courage or whatever you want to call it.

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Damn! That girl had some balls!!!
I'd much rather pop a hundred pills...but hey we're here to talk about suicide prevention 🙂

"Statistics indicate that males die much more often by means of suicide than do females; however, reported suicide attempts and thoughts are much more common among females than male."

Posted by CluelessCancer
Ahhh I'm a cancer I've lived with bouts of depression all my life and I'm sure most CAPS have as well...

idk what you're talking about. Some of us just accept it and let it be until it goes away...if it doesn't that's when one needs to seek help.

Yes, I think Cancers and Caps are prone to it.

Posted by CluelessCancer
The real question is how many people are undiagnosed? What services are there to even educate the population. I fear that people especially impoverished individuals do not have access to psychologists or psychiatrists to be properly diagnosed.

I know many a depressed individual that do not have the help they need. So they just LIVE with it.

Or they can't afford the anti-depressants and just live with it.

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Posted by CluelessCancer
I had a dream last night that my tooth fell out. I was screaming at the loss. I read this morning that psychologists tested individuals who have this type of dream and found that it was a sign of anxiety and slight depression.

Even my dreams are anxious.

I've heard it's a sign of being afraid of secrets coming out.

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This may come back to bite me on the ass??_..but its the first time I've ever talked about it.

Remember that movie the Fly and theres that scene where the scientist guy pulls out his tooth? Well I watched that movie when I was like 4 years old and thats the only scene I remember from the movie and its stayed with me ever since??_
anyways I have had countless dreams that my bottom front tooth was coming out Ive even woken up thinking I was choking on it and it was all because Ive been keeping a secret thats so bizarre that I have no idea what anyone would think of me if I told them??_.

anyways long story short my actual tooth is about to fall out??_.I broke it and its been getting looser and looser I think subconsciously my tounge wiggles it when I'm asleep to make it fall out??_.its at that point where I can pull it down so its horizontal but it won't fall out...

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Posted by Montgomery

People that are suicidal *are* weak; that's the point....

Do you even know what depression is?

Stop talking out of your ass.

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Back off, dear-- and take the semantics with you.

In the same way a recovering alcoholic may be "weak" around alcohol, a person driven to harm herself would be "weak" or fragile, when faced with more of the commentary that first brought her down, or further encouragement to do what she's already been considering.

In other words, defenseless.

That kind of weakness is not a character flaw as damen, and now you, want folks to believe.

It never occurred to me that someone would interpret it, otherwise.

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Posted by CluelessCancer
The real question is how many people are undiagnosed? What services are there to even educate the population. I fear that people especially impoverished individuals do not have access to psychologists or psychiatrists to be properly diagnosed.

I know many a depressed individual that do not have the help they need. So they just LIVE with it.

While I think it's important to have standards and identify/deal with a problem rather than just living with it, I certainly feel the world (at least Western world) would actually be better off with less diagnosis. I've lived with and cared for people who have this or that problem, until they can't function without needing to label their problems over and again.

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It's true.

We're the most over-prescribed nation.

They want to sell you a drug for everything, and people think it's safe because it came from the doc.

Often, that isn't the case.


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Aww. It's nice that yall are having a nice big group hug.

"Go Kill Yourself" is still going to get reported.

And threats should be reported as well.

To say something like 'go kill yourself' is just trashy, ignorant and mean. On the other hand telling someone they may need a therapist is not bad imo. A lot of people need one, nothing to be ashamed of

Posted by CluelessCancer
I really can't stand when people attempt to make themselves seem super important, when they're not, and are majorly boring in fact.

Wynter nobody cares if you and your 15 nicknames Report to Duncan. Seriously get a life.

lol! didn't you just say you gave negative zero fucks?

Backslider.

lol @ backslider I've never heard that term before, interesting??_...

Posted by Montgomery

Back off, dear-- and take the semantics with you.

In the same way a recovering alcoholic may be "weak" around alcohol, a person driven to harm herself would be "weak" or fragile, when faced with more of the commentary that first brought her down, or further encouragement to do what she's already been considering.

In other words, defenseless.

That kind of weakness is not a character flaw as damen, and now you, want folks to believe.

It never occurred to me that someone would interpret it, otherwise.

being a alcoholic & committing suicide isn't the same..one is a weakness that you can overcome,the other you obviously can't..and therefore it forever stamps you AS weak..the only acceptable suicide is if you committed a crime that would have you sitting in jail for the rest of(or most of)your life..

Posted by CluelessCancer
Damen I used to think like you, but you have ZERO CLUE, how the brain works. AT ALL!

sometimes the problem is that people are overloading their brain with too much work

its people on this earth that can't handle situations, so they choose to leave earth, and its some that go thru situations and choose to live & fight..i respect and admire the ladder of those types..

Posted by DAMEN VI
being a alcoholic & committing suicide isn't the same..one is a weakness that you can overcome,the other you obviously can't..and therefore it forever stamps you AS weak..the only acceptable suicide is if you committed a crime that would have you sitting in jail for the rest of(or most of)your life..

I didn't say they were the same.

I also offered a clarification in case someone objected to the comparison:

"In other words, defenseless."


I disagree with everything else you said.

I don't know if you can control what people say. Don't we chose how we react to things as well? Though I'm not saying I think it's okay.

Posted by CluelessCancer
With how society is going now there's alot more neurological problems. We don't understand the brain or what the stimuli is that affects it. It's easy to say pull up your bootstraps and get on with it, but it's away more complex then that. I know people who are strong, who were hit by a deep bout of depression. I'm talking about trying to jump off a balcony in Las Vegas while we were vacationing.

My friend was basically unable to walk, talk for almost a year. She's well now , her brain had to rest, and her husband was with her through thick and thin as well as her family....but the triggers were there all along. Alot of stress, a miscarriage, too many responsibilities. Your brain can flip on you dude.

thats true..

check out this video starting @ 3:03..

Posted by CreoleGeisha
I second the idea of banning posters who say this. I also think the offenders should be required to undergo psych eval and take 24 weeks' worth of anger management instruction.

That said...I don't get why anybody would assign value to such disturbed comments.

What about being forced to watch the barney I love you song repeatedly on tinychat 🙂