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Posted by Chelsey07Pretty cut and dry.
I emailed my boss in regards to not being paid in a timely manner and asked quite nicely if I could get some sort of compensation until we do get paid and this is what he sent me in return:
First, I will need to discuss decorum; and it is highly inappropriate for you to write any email to me that's not involving (your direct manager's name here) or you asking her to address me on your behalf. Also, any personal issues discussed is inappropriate as well. (You ditect manager's name here) copied everyone on our change in payroll dates. I'm assuming you were use to getting paid weekly, and that's not effective anymore, as stated by (your direct manager's name here) in her correspondence, that we are going to direct deposit. You have your capacity in the company, however; I'm running an entire operation.
Secondly, you must adhere to your work schedule that was laid out prior to your start date. Often times, you have shown up late to work without regards. I'm sure (your direct manager's name here) counseled you about this problem, and you've signed the counseling form as I instructed.
Your work day consist of six ๐ hours, and a fifteen (15) minute break after four (4) hours. I've noticed that advantages are taken often in our passive management style , because I've tried to keep a stress free environment. However, going forward, (your direct manager's name here) will set your lunch time daily for thirty minutes.
This means that your work day extends to 4:30 p.m. In addition, please note that the front desk is for work and not personal matters period. Also, from an ethical and professional standpoint, in your desk, there are several items that should have been sent to (billing person's name here) for reconciling. This is a must when you are asked to do something by me, its expedient.
Nevertheless, I did leave a check in the amount of (insert amount here) with the security downstairs. Going forward, please note that (Insert direct manager's name here), who is the Program Manager, is your direct supervisor. I happen to be the CEO/COO of the company, not a peer worker. It is also my hopes, that you will read, comprehend and apply my feedback as trying to make you better and more efficient in employment.
Thanks
Sent from my iPad
Use the proper chain of command
Posted by SsupermanPosted by Chelsey07Pretty cut and dry.
I emailed my boss in regards to not being paid in a timely manner and asked quite nicely if I could get some sort of compensation until we do get paid and this is what he sent me in return:
First, I will need to discuss decorum; and it is highly inappropriate for you to write any email to me that's not involving (your direct manager's name here) or you asking her to address me on your behalf. Also, any personal issues discussed is inappropriate as well. (You ditect manager's name here) copied everyone on our change in payroll dates. I'm assuming you were use to getting paid weekly, and that's not effective anymore, as stated by (your direct manager's name here) in her correspondence, that we are going to direct deposit. You have your capacity in the company, however; I'm running an entire operation.
Secondly, you must adhere to your work schedule that was laid out prior to your start date. Often times, you have shown up late to work without regards. I'm sure (your direct manager's name here) counseled you about this problem, and you've signed the counseling form as I instructed.
Your work day consist of six ๐ hours, and a fifteen (15) minute break after four (4) hours. I've noticed that advantages are taken often in our passive management style , because I've tried to keep a stress free environment. However, going forward, (your direct manager's name here) will set your lunch time daily for thirty minutes.
This means that your work day extends to 4:30 p.m. In addition, please note that the front desk is for work and not personal matters period. Also, from an ethical and professional standpoint, in your desk, there are several items that should have been sent to (billing person's name here) for reconciling. This is a must when you are asked to do something by me, its expedient.
Nevertheless, I did leave a check in the amount of (insert amount here) with the security downstairs. Going forward, please note that (Insert direct manager's name here), who is the Program Manager, is your direct supervisor. I happen to be the CEO/COO of the company, not a peer worker. It is also my hopes, that you will read, comprehend and apply my feedback as trying to make you better and more efficient in employment.
Thanks
Sent from my iPad
Use the proper chain of commandclick to expand
So, I should have someone else speak for me in regards to not being paid in over a month? I think the fuck not.
Posted by drunkghost
superior complex, sorry your boss is a condescending dick
Yeah, me too. Because how dare I ask for the money I worked hard for??
How large is this company and what did you say to him? I often find that email can sound harder and gruffer than the sender meant. He sounds like a direct person that adheres strongly to the chain of command like @ssuperman said, I don't believe a response is needed and now you know the personality you're working with, maybe it's time for a change?
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeePosted by Chelsey07Does he have a point though? Or is he using you as an examplePosted by drunkghost
superior complex, sorry your boss is a condescending dick
Yeah, me too. Because how dare I ask for the money I worked hard for??
Are you the only black person?click to expand
My job is all Black and no, there is no point to make. I've been late by a minute or two...never more than that and my job is in a high traffic area, so coming to and from is hell on Earth, but that doesn't justify not paying me in over a month.
That's like saying "Do you deserve to be paid?"
Posted by TaurusinTexas
How large is this company and what did you say to him? I often find that email can sound harder and gruffer than the sender meant. He sounds like a direct person that adheres strongly to the chain of command like @ssuperman said, I don't believe a response is needed and now you know the personality you're working with, maybe it's time for a change?
We are a small company. Less than 20 people, but he hasn't paid us in over a month and he thinks that there's nothing wrong with it.
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeYou have tunnel vision on race. That's all you can talk about.Posted by Chelsey07Does he have a point though? Or is he using you as an examplePosted by drunkghost
superior complex, sorry your boss is a condescending dick
Yeah, me too. Because how dare I ask for the money I worked hard for??
Are you the only black person?click to expand
There's nothing unreasonable about that you're asking for..not paid in a month, is that even legal?
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeePosted by Chelsey07Over a month? Girl that's a lawsuitPosted by CaramelizedCoffeePosted by Chelsey07Does he have a point though? Or is he using you as an examplePosted by drunkghost
superior complex, sorry your boss is a condescending dick
Yeah, me too. Because how dare I ask for the money I worked hard for??
Are you the only black person?
My job is all Black and no, there is no point to make. I've been late by a minute or two...never more than that and my job is in a high traffic area, so coming to and from is hell on Earth, but that doesn't justify not paying me in over a month.
That's like saying "Do you deserve to be paid?"
I thought it was a week or twoclick to expand
I'm about to fuck him up when I get back on Monday. Talking about I don't need to address him directly. Bitch, I will fuck you up for playing with my money. He better get his dick out of his ass.
What a prick.
Posted by Chelsey07I think you should seriously consider finding a new job, I know that's easier said than done but a company that isn't concerned about how this kind of pay schedule transition would affect their employees, doesn't sound like a place to invest your time and energy. I don't know everything at play here but this sounds like a bad situation to stay in.Posted by TaurusinTexas
How large is this company and what did you say to him? I often find that email can sound harder and gruffer than the sender meant. He sounds like a direct person that adheres strongly to the chain of command like @ssuperman said, I don't believe a response is needed and now you know the personality you're working with, maybe it's time for a change?
We are a small company. Less than 20 people, but he hasn't paid us in over a month and he thinks that there's nothing wrong with it.click to expand
Posted by Sola
There's nothing unreasonable about that you're asking for..not paid in a month, is that even legal?
Nope. Not at all.
Chelsea,
Start looking for another job'
This are sign of company going down'
Irritable boss and month of salary delay?
Update your resume and...good luck'
Start looking for another job'
This are sign of company going down'
Irritable boss and month of salary delay?
Update your resume and...good luck'
Posted by Chelsey07IMO the response was highly inappropriate, as he is retaliaitng with a 'list" of items you have supposdely done wrong so that is justfiying not paying you. No it doesn't work that way. All he had to do was address the improper order of command and then have your direct manager address those other things seperately.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeePosted by Chelsey07Does he have a point though? Or is he using you as an examplePosted by drunkghost
superior complex, sorry your boss is a condescending dick
Yeah, me too. Because how dare I ask for the money I worked hard for??
Are you the only black person?
My job is all Black and no, there is no point to make. I've been late by a minute or two...never more than that and my job is in a high traffic area, so coming to and from is hell on Earth, but that doesn't justify not paying me in over a month.
That's like saying "Do you deserve to be paid?"click to expand
Proper chain of command should always be adhered to within a company. The email response however is troubling, he has been stockpiling of supposed breaches of policy instead of addressing them as they occur, is there an HR department? You have opened a can of worms and you may be targeted. Id cover your ass if you can but you need them to be aware of this email.
Posted by SsupermanPosted by CaramelizedCoffeeYou have tunnel vision on race. That's all you can talk about.Posted by Chelsey07Does he have a point though? Or is he using you as an examplePosted by drunkghost
superior complex, sorry your boss is a condescending dick
Yeah, me too. Because how dare I ask for the money I worked hard for??
Are you the only black person?click to expand
I don't agree with that. I'm assuming by your picture that you're a white man and can't truly understand what it's like to be a Black person in a workplace that is more than likely predominantly white. While that's not the case in my situation, I can see where she's coming from.
But I digress.
Posted by Chelsey07GUILTY.Posted by SsupermanPosted by Chelsey07Pretty cut and dry.
I emailed my boss in regards to not being paid in a timely manner and asked quite nicely if I could get some sort of compensation until we do get paid and this is what he sent me in return:
First, I will need to discuss decorum; and it is highly inappropriate for you to write any email to me that's not involving (your direct manager's name here) or you asking her to address me on your behalf. Also, any personal issues discussed is inappropriate as well. (You ditect manager's name here) copied everyone on our change in payroll dates. I'm assuming you were use to getting paid weekly, and that's not effective anymore, as stated by (your direct manager's name here) in her correspondence, that we are going to direct deposit. You have your capacity in the company, however; I'm running an entire operation.
Secondly, you must adhere to your work schedule that was laid out prior to your start date. Often times, you have shown up late to work without regards. I'm sure (your direct manager's name here) counseled you about this problem, and you've signed the counseling form as I instructed.
Your work day consist of six ๐ hours, and a fifteen (15) minute break after four (4) hours. I've noticed that advantages are taken often in our passive management style , because I've tried to keep a stress free environment. However, going forward, (your direct manager's name here) will set your lunch time daily for thirty minutes.
This means that your work day extends to 4:30 p.m. In addition, please note that the front desk is for work and not personal matters period. Also, from an ethical and professional standpoint, in your desk, there are several items that should have been sent to (billing person's name here) for reconciling. This is a must when you are asked to do something by me, its expedient.
Nevertheless, I did leave a check in the amount of (insert amount here) with the security downstairs. Going forward, please note that (Insert direct manager's name here), who is the Program Manager, is your direct supervisor. I happen to be the CEO/COO of the company, not a peer worker. It is also my hopes, that you will read, comprehend and apply my feedback as trying to make you better and more efficient in employment.
Thanks
Sent from my iPad
Use the proper chain of command
So, I should have someone else speak for me in regards to not being paid in over a month? I think the fuck not.click to expand
Him, not you.
Labor laws.
Posted by justagirlPosted by Chelsey07IMO the response was highly inappropriate, as he is retaliaitng with a 'list" of items you have supposdely done wrong so that is justfiying not paying you. No it doesn't work that way. All he had to do was address the improper order of command and then have your direct manager address those other things seperately.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeePosted by Chelsey07Does he have a point though? Or is he using you as an examplePosted by drunkghost
superior complex, sorry your boss is a condescending dick
Yeah, me too. Because how dare I ask for the money I worked hard for??
Are you the only black person?
My job is all Black and no, there is no point to make. I've been late by a minute or two...never more than that and my job is in a high traffic area, so coming to and from is hell on Earth, but that doesn't justify not paying me in over a month.
That's like saying "Do you deserve to be paid?"
Proper chain of command should always be adhered to within a company. The email response however is troubling, he has been stockpiling of suppsodely breaches of policy instead of addressing them as they occur, is there an HR department? You have opened a can of worms and you may be targeted. Id cover your ass if you can but you need them to be aware of this email.click to expand
There is no HR. We're a small company of about 20 people and he's the CEO and owner. While that shouldn't give him the liberty to do whatever he pleases, with no one above him holding him accountable, he's allowed to run rampant.
Posted by MontgomeryPosted by Chelsey07GUILTY.Posted by SsupermanPosted by Chelsey07Pretty cut and dry.
I emailed my boss in regards to not being paid in a timely manner and asked quite nicely if I could get some sort of compensation until we do get paid and this is what he sent me in return:
First, I will need to discuss decorum; and it is highly inappropriate for you to write any email to me that's not involving (your direct manager's name here) or you asking her to address me on your behalf. Also, any personal issues discussed is inappropriate as well. (You ditect manager's name here) copied everyone on our change in payroll dates. I'm assuming you were use to getting paid weekly, and that's not effective anymore, as stated by (your direct manager's name here) in her correspondence, that we are going to direct deposit. You have your capacity in the company, however; I'm running an entire operation.
Secondly, you must adhere to your work schedule that was laid out prior to your start date. Often times, you have shown up late to work without regards. I'm sure (your direct manager's name here) counseled you about this problem, and you've signed the counseling form as I instructed.
Your work day consist of six ๐ hours, and a fifteen (15) minute break after four (4) hours. I've noticed that advantages are taken often in our passive management style , because I've tried to keep a stress free environment. However, going forward, (your direct manager's name here) will set your lunch time daily for thirty minutes.
This means that your work day extends to 4:30 p.m. In addition, please note that the front desk is for work and not personal matters period. Also, from an ethical and professional standpoint, in your desk, there are several items that should have been sent to (billing person's name here) for reconciling. This is a must when you are asked to do something by me, its expedient.
Nevertheless, I did leave a check in the amount of (insert amount here) with the security downstairs. Going forward, please note that (Insert direct manager's name here), who is the Program Manager, is your direct supervisor. I happen to be the CEO/COO of the company, not a peer worker. It is also my hopes, that you will read, comprehend and apply my feedback as trying to make you better and more efficient in employment.
Thanks
Sent from my iPad
Use the proper chain of command
So, I should have someone else speak for me in regards to not being paid in over a month? I think the fuck not.
Him, not you.
Labor laws.
click to expand
Oh he's gonna catch these hands and subpeona.
Gemitati is correct, your boss 'critiqued' your work ethic which is code for "If you press me on this issue these are the reasons I'll fire you. Learn your place and stay in line."
Good luck!
Good luck!
What a dick
If he had all those issues, with you, why didn't he address them before?? If your work wasn't up to standard, then why wait now to mention things? Well we all know why...........EGO
Lunch hour should be one hour and I dare hardly ask if they are paying you as much as you deserve
Oooohhhh I would have to tell the pompous prat to stick his job. If he had problems with you going through rhe wrong channels, then all he had to do was say so, but no, he had to score points because you dared to speak out
Good luck with finding a better alternative where you are treated well
If he had all those issues, with you, why didn't he address them before?? If your work wasn't up to standard, then why wait now to mention things? Well we all know why...........EGO
Lunch hour should be one hour and I dare hardly ask if they are paying you as much as you deserve
Oooohhhh I would have to tell the pompous prat to stick his job. If he had problems with you going through rhe wrong channels, then all he had to do was say so, but no, he had to score points because you dared to speak out
Good luck with finding a better alternative where you are treated well
Posted by Chelsey07Little Hitler ๐Posted by justagirlPosted by Chelsey07IMO the response was highly inappropriate, as he is retaliaitng with a 'list" of items you have supposdely done wrong so that is justfiying not paying you. No it doesn't work that way. All he had to do was address the improper order of command and then have your direct manager address those other things seperately.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeePosted by Chelsey07Does he have a point though? Or is he using you as an examplePosted by drunkghost
superior complex, sorry your boss is a condescending dick
Yeah, me too. Because how dare I ask for the money I worked hard for??
Are you the only black person?
My job is all Black and no, there is no point to make. I've been late by a minute or two...never more than that and my job is in a high traffic area, so coming to and from is hell on Earth, but that doesn't justify not paying me in over a month.
That's like saying "Do you deserve to be paid?"
Proper chain of command should always be adhered to within a company. The email response however is troubling, he has been stockpiling of suppsodely breaches of policy instead of addressing them as they occur, is there an HR department? You have opened a can of worms and you may be targeted. Id cover your ass if you can but you need them to be aware of this email.
There is no HR. We're a small company of about 20 people and he's the CEO and owner. While that shouldn't give him the liberty to do whatever he pleases, with no one above him holding him accountable, he's allowed to run rampant.
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Posted by halalbaeAnd that's how you know it wasn't inappropriate. He just didn't want to be questioned about money and feels that because I'm only 20 that I shouldn't be addressing him.
if its that HIGHLY inappropriate, he could have forward your email to your direct manager and let them handle it
Posted by Chelsey07And you'll never know what it's like to be white.Posted by SsupermanPosted by CaramelizedCoffeeYou have tunnel vision on race. That's all you can talk about.Posted by Chelsey07Does he have a point though? Or is he using you as an examplePosted by drunkghost
superior complex, sorry your boss is a condescending dick
Yeah, me too. Because how dare I ask for the money I worked hard for??
Are you the only black person?
I don't agree with that. I'm assuming by your picture that you're a white man and can't truly understand what it's like to be a Black person in a workplace that is more than likely predominantly white. While that's not the case in my situation, I can see where she's coming from.
But I digress.
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My point is that you mentioned nowhere about race and that's all she can think of
@Chelsey07
If it's any comfort to you, I worked for a guy that
tried to pull this shit on his (all white) staff,
some of whom had children and were living
paycheck to paycheck ... small
business owner, and he'd withheld pay before,
apparently.
I called Labor dept and asked about the legality
of this (he was saying we had not pulled our
weight)-- and there is a deadline for payroll/non-
contract employees.
If he misses that deadline, he's breaking the
law, and that's that-- your boss is aware, too, it
seems lol
After telling everyone that we weren't getting
paid he tried to hold a meeting, my coworker
is still crying, and we all got to enjoy a side of
my personality that rarely sees the light of day.
Once I knew the law was on our side, I was good.
Like you, we all got paid, but you handled it *far*
better than I did and you have a record, as well,
that you can keep on file.
Smart...!
That fckr is just trying to intimidate you, anyway.
Best of luck to you. ๐
If it's any comfort to you, I worked for a guy that
tried to pull this shit on his (all white) staff,
some of whom had children and were living
paycheck to paycheck ... small
business owner, and he'd withheld pay before,
apparently.
I called Labor dept and asked about the legality
of this (he was saying we had not pulled our
weight)-- and there is a deadline for payroll/non-
contract employees.
If he misses that deadline, he's breaking the
law, and that's that-- your boss is aware, too, it
seems lol
After telling everyone that we weren't getting
paid he tried to hold a meeting, my coworker
is still crying, and we all got to enjoy a side of
my personality that rarely sees the light of day.
Once I knew the law was on our side, I was good.
Like you, we all got paid, but you handled it *far*
better than I did and you have a record, as well,
that you can keep on file.
Smart...!
That fckr is just trying to intimidate you, anyway.
Best of luck to you. ๐
Posted by SsupermanYou're right, but I damn sure the fringe benefits are nice. But that's neither here nor there.Posted by Chelsey07And you'll never know what it's like to be white.Posted by SsupermanPosted by CaramelizedCoffeeYou have tunnel vision on race. That's all you can talk about.Posted by Chelsey07Does he have a point though? Or is he using you as an examplePosted by drunkghost
superior complex, sorry your boss is a condescending dick
Yeah, me too. Because how dare I ask for the money I worked hard for??
Are you the only black person?
I don't agree with that. I'm assuming by your picture that you're a white man and can't truly understand what it's like to be a Black person in a workplace that is more than likely predominantly white. While that's not the case in my situation, I can see where she's coming from.
But I digress.
My point is that you mentioned nowhere about race and that's all she can think ofclick to expand
Posted by EffervescentAnd that's the respond I got for asking.
"You haven't payed me in over a month. What's going on?"
Posted by Montgomery
@Chelsey07
If it's any comfort to you, I worked for a guy that
tried to pull this shit on his (all white) staff,
some of whom had children and were living
paycheck to paycheck ... small
business owner, and he'd withheld pay before,
apparently.
I called Labor dept and asked about the legality
of this (he was saying we had not pulled our
weight)-- and there is a deadline for payroll/non-
contract employees.
If he misses that deadline, he's breaking the
law, and that's that-- your boss is aware, too, it
seems lol
After telling everyone that we weren't getting
paid he tried to hold a meeting, my coworker
is still crying, and we all got to enjoy a side of
my personality that rarely sees the light of day.
Once I knew the law was on our side, I was good.
Like you, we all got paid, but you handled it *far*
better than I did and you have a record, as well,
that you can keep on file.
Smart...!
That fckr is just trying to intimidate you, anyway.
Best of luck to you. ๐
Thanks again!
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeYou know it!Posted by CatullusAND a lawsuit ensues
Gemitati is correct, your boss 'critiqued' your work ethic which is code for "If you press me on this issue these are the reasons I'll fire you. Learn your place and stay in line."
Good luck!click to expand
I don't see anything wrong with this ?.. You should take a hint and quit bitching around. The mail states that no one gets paid weekly so there won't be exceptions for you. And yes, when it comes to this matters, you should Contact directly to your supervisor and manager, not the company director or president. You need to change your attitude towards work if you want to keep this job. Being late is a NO NO..
If you send any kind of ? in response, you gotta be ready to leave. He will fire you. This isn't a joke
Posted by Chelsey07Exactly. Race plays no part in this discussion yet someone always tries to make it a race issue.Posted by SsupermanYou're right, but I damn sure the fringe benefits are nice. But that's neither here nor there.Posted by Chelsey07And you'll never know what it's like to be white.Posted by SsupermanPosted by CaramelizedCoffeeYou have tunnel vision on race. That's all you can talk about.Posted by Chelsey07Does he have a point though? Or is he using you as an examplePosted by drunkghost
superior complex, sorry your boss is a condescending dick
Yeah, me too. Because how dare I ask for the money I worked hard for??
Are you the only black person?
I don't agree with that. I'm assuming by your picture that you're a white man and can't truly understand what it's like to be a Black person in a workplace that is more than likely predominantly white. While that's not the case in my situation, I can see where she's coming from.
But I digress.
My point is that you mentioned nowhere about race and that's all she can think of
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Posted by pisceanloves
I don't see anything wrong with this ?.. You should take a hint and quit bitching around. The mail states that no one gets paid weekly so there won't be exceptions for you. And yes, when it comes to this matters, you should Contact directly to your supervisor and manager, not the company director or president. You need to change your attitude towards work if you want to keep this job. Being late is a NO NO..
We're supposed to be getting biweekly. I should've been paid yesterday, but payday has been pushed back for an additional 2 weeks which will make a month.
Whether I'm a minute late or whatever it may be, that doesn't justify not paying me in time.
Posted by Chelsey07If you feel you are treated wrong then take your case to the court. Again, bitching with company director won't give you anything, except troubles.Posted by pisceanloves
I don't see anything wrong with this ?.. You should take a hint and quit bitching around. The mail states that no one gets paid weekly so there won't be exceptions for you. And yes, when it comes to this matters, you should Contact directly to your supervisor and manager, not the company director or president. You need to change your attitude towards work if you want to keep this job. Being late is a NO NO..
We're supposed to be getting biweekly. I should've been paid yesterday, but payday has been pushed back for an additional 2 weeks which will make a month.
Whether I'm a minute late or whatever it may be, that doesn't justify not paying me in time.
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What did your email to him say? You posted his response verbatim but only gave a one sentence summary of what you said initially.
There's no excuse for not bring paid - don't get me wrong - but maybe seeing what all you put in your letter will shed some light on possible reasons he might have responded the way he did? And help us help you figure out which direction to take now/How to proceed from this juncture?
There's no excuse for not bring paid - don't get me wrong - but maybe seeing what all you put in your letter will shed some light on possible reasons he might have responded the way he did? And help us help you figure out which direction to take now/How to proceed from this juncture?
Lol what a dick
Don't respond to his email at all
Just pick up your check and keep it moving
Nothing good is going to come from interacting with that man
Don't respond to his email at all
Just pick up your check and keep it moving
Nothing good is going to come from interacting with that man
โI hope doesn't start harassing you after this!
Agrees with Gemitati.
This is why I will never work for a small business. The business is failing... whenever you don't get paid. When you get paid again, do not deposit the check. Cash it.
Find another job ASAP! And, call the Labor Department.
He is possibly preparing for lay-offs and to fight unempoyment claims. His email response could help fight your unemployment claim.
Strategy... and timing has to be perfect. You have to respond to the email claims to defend a future unemployment claim but, if you have been counseled as he stated... you may do more harm. If or when you respond... have another job... Let it be a resignation/response to claims.
You should have gone through your chain of command though. His tone reaps of a business owner under pressure, going under... it's a complete defensive tactic to any future claim you may have.
This is why I will never work for a small business. The business is failing... whenever you don't get paid. When you get paid again, do not deposit the check. Cash it.
Find another job ASAP! And, call the Labor Department.
He is possibly preparing for lay-offs and to fight unempoyment claims. His email response could help fight your unemployment claim.
Strategy... and timing has to be perfect. You have to respond to the email claims to defend a future unemployment claim but, if you have been counseled as he stated... you may do more harm. If or when you respond... have another job... Let it be a resignation/response to claims.
You should have gone through your chain of command though. His tone reaps of a business owner under pressure, going under... it's a complete defensive tactic to any future claim you may have.
Posted by Andalusia
What did your email to him say? You posted his response verbatim but only gave a one sentence summary of what you said initially.
There's no excuse for not bring paid - don't get me wrong - but maybe seeing what all you put in your letter will shed some light on possible reasons he might have responded the way he did? And help us help you figure out which direction to take now/How to proceed from this juncture?
This was my email:
Mr. (Insert CEO's name here)
I was informed yesterday by (direct supervisor) that we wouldn't be getting paid until September 1st due to some internal issues and I cannot make it until then.
I have bills that are due and I won't be able to make it to and from the office in a couple of days as I take โUberโ to get back and forth.
Is there any chance that I could get some sort of advance until then?
Best regards,
Chelsey
(Insert company name here)
(Insert company address and phone number here)
Posted by FortunaPosted by FortunaI did this at my last job. My manager was a bully and made people cry by yelling and lying to them. She tried this on me, but it had no effect. I am not afraid of authority and can spot when people are dramatic for their own reasons. My manager had issues she was taking it out in others.Posted by brianafayIf this were me, I'd do this. Keep things nice, follow my schedule, collect check. Find a new job and then give notice. In my resignation letter, I would give facts as to why things didn't work out.
Lol what a dick
Don't respond to his email at all
Just pick up your check and keep it moving
Nothing good is going to come from interacting with that man
In my resignation letter, I stated that although it never affected me, it affected the people I work with and I didn't want to be in a bad working environment. There were other problems that initially caused me to quit--I promised my coworkers that I'd put a word in for them about the dynamics of the department and how the manager handled things.click to expand
I did cry after reading this. My daddy had to hold me like he did when I was a little girl. I've never had someone speak to me in such a disrespectful manner until now.
All I got from this... These folks want you gone and are watching your every move ... Every move ... This guy is a piece of work ... Major undertones in this email ... Phew !
Posted by Bottabing
All I got from this... These folks want you gone and are watching your every move ... Every move ... This guy is a piece of work ... Major undertones in this email ... Phew !
I'm leaving soon enough.
Posted by FortunaPosted by Chelsey07Best to not burn bridges, in a personal way. I understand you're upset and you have a right to be, but if you want something done the right way, check the law and follow the appropriate steps, also keep with the chain of command in the company. If you want to get back at him, file with BBB, or some similar entities that keeps track of these things.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeePosted by Chelsey07Over a month? Girl that's a lawsuitPosted by CaramelizedCoffeePosted by Chelsey07Does he have a point though? Or is he using you as an examplePosted by drunkghost
superior complex, sorry your boss is a condescending dick
Yeah, me too. Because how dare I ask for the money I worked hard for??
Are you the only black person?
My job is all Black and no, there is no point to make. I've been late by a minute or two...never more than that and my job is in a high traffic area, so coming to and from is hell on Earth, but that doesn't justify not paying me in over a month.
That's like saying "Do you deserve to be paid?"
I thought it was a week or two
I'm about to fuck him up when I get back on Monday. Talking about I don't need to address him directly. Bitch, I will fuck you up for playing with my money. He better get his dick out of his ass.
These are all appropriate responses, going back to give hell is not. I would write a professional letter, filing a complaint, make sure it's professional and logical (with facts, keep your emotions out of it).
If you ever have to go to court, all of this will be in your favor! However, if you go there and give him a piece of your mind, well, it can back fire and you'll have a bigger mess than what you started with.
When getting back you should be smart about it, not emotional about it.click to expand
I plan on moving in silence.
Posted by Chelsey07Oh.Posted by Andalusia
What did your email to him say? You posted his response verbatim but only gave a one sentence summary of what you said initially.
There's no excuse for not bring paid - don't get me wrong - but maybe seeing what all you put in your letter will shed some light on possible reasons he might have responded the way he did? And help us help you figure out which direction to take now/How to proceed from this juncture?
This was my email:
Mr. (Insert CEO's name here)
I was informed yesterday by (direct supervisor) that we wouldn't be getting paid until September 1st due to some internal issues and I cannot make it until then.
I have bills that are due and I won't be able to make it to and from the office in a couple of days as I take โUberโ to get back and forth.
Is there any chance that I could get some sort of advance until then?
Best regards,
Chelsey
(Insert company name here)
(Insert company address and phone number here)
click to expand
Ohh.
Ooooooohhhhhh.
Fuck this guy. Fuck him royally with all the means legally at your disposal.
And maybe then some.
No body should fuck with your family, your food, or your money. He's doing at least two of the three. Unless you have family living with you. Then he's doing all three.
Posted by Gemitati
Chelsea,
Start looking for another job'
This are sign of company going down'
Irritable boss and month of salary delay?
Update your resume and...good luck'
He is going down. He's been ducking and dodging the judicial system for a second. He's been avoiding a subpoena for a moment...which is illegal if I'm not mistaken.
Posted by Gemitati
Chelsea,
Start looking for another job'
This are sign of company going down'
Irritable boss and month of salary delay?
Update your resume and...good luck'
He is going down. He's been ducking and dodging the judicial system for a second. He's been avoiding a subpoena for a moment...which is illegal if I'm not mistaken.
Posted by AndalusiaPosted by Chelsey07Oh.Posted by Andalusia
What did your email to him say? You posted his response verbatim but only gave a one sentence summary of what you said initially.
There's no excuse for not bring paid - don't get me wrong - but maybe seeing what all you put in your letter will shed some light on possible reasons he might have responded the way he did? And help us help you figure out which direction to take now/How to proceed from this juncture?
This was my email:
Mr. (Insert CEO's name here)
I was informed yesterday by (direct supervisor) that we wouldn't be getting paid until September 1st due to some internal issues and I cannot make it until then.
I have bills that are due and I won't be able to make it to and from the office in a couple of days as I take โUberโ to get back and forth.
Is there any chance that I could get some sort of advance until then?
Best regards,
Chelsey
(Insert company name here)
(Insert company address and phone number here)
Ohh.
Ooooooohhhhhh.
Fuck this guy. Fuck him royally with all the means legally at your disposal.
And maybe then some.
No body should fuck with your family, your food, or your money. He's doing at least two of the three. Unless you have family living with you. Then he's doing all three.click to expand
He is and I'm looking into my options.
Posted by VenusAquarius
Agrees with Gemitati.
This is why I will never work for a small business. The business is failing... whenever you don't get paid. When you get paid again, do not deposit the check. Cash it.
Find another job ASAP! And, call the Labor Department.
He is possibly preparing for lay-offs and to fight unempoyment claims. His email response could help fight your unemployment claim.
Strategy... and timing has to be perfect. You have to respond to the email claims to defend a future unemployment claim but, if you have been counseled as he stated... you may do more harm. If or when you respond... have another job... Let it be a resignation/response to claims.
You should have gone through your chain of command though. His tone reaps of a business owner under pressure, going under... it's a complete defensive tactic to any future claim you may have.
My "counselling" was a verbal warning stating that I needed to be punctual. I verbally acknowledged it and that was the end of that.
And I did go through my chain of command. I asked my direct supervisor about it and she suggested that I email him and tell him my situation. I didn't know that he would respond like this.
Posted by xBruceCampbellx^ This. That's why he responded that way. All that other crap in his long essay was smoke to make you not question his inability to pay again. Classic manipulation move.
I'd quit and look for another job. It's obvious this cat can't make payroll.
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First, I will need to discuss decorum; and it is highly inappropriate for you to write any email to me that's not involving (your direct manager's name here) or you asking her to address me on your behalf. Also, any personal issues discussed is inappropriate as well. (You ditect manager's name here) copied everyone on our change in payroll dates. I'm assuming you were use to getting paid weekly, and that's not effective anymore, as stated by (your direct manager's name here) in her correspondence, that we are going to direct deposit. You have your capacity in the company, however; I'm running an entire operation.
Secondly, you must adhere to your work schedule that was laid out prior to your start date. Often times, you have shown up late to work without regards. I'm sure (your direct manager's name here) counseled you about this problem, and you've signed the counseling form as I instructed.
Your work day consist of six ๐ hours, and a fifteen (15) minute break after four (4) hours. I've noticed that advantages are taken often in our passive management style , because I've tried to keep a stress free environment. However, going forward, (your direct manager's name here) will set your lunch time daily for thirty minutes.
This means that your work day extends to 4:30 p.m. In addition, please note that the front desk is for work and not personal matters period. Also, from an ethical and professional standpoint, in your desk, there are several items that should have been sent to (billing person's name here) for reconciling. This is a must when you are asked to do something by me, its expedient.
Nevertheless, I did leave a check in the amount of (insert amount here) with the security downstairs. Going forward, please note that (Insert direct manager's name here), who is the Program Manager, is your direct supervisor. I happen to be the CEO/COO of the company, not a peer worker. It is also my hopes, that you will read, comprehend and apply my feedback as trying to make you better and more efficient in employment.
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