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Which one would you go for?

I have a dilemma. I walked away from the material things & image.. it was the right thing.

So you meet some who is genuine but life style just doesn’t match up to yours. But yet they take you on dates, and funny enough more than the guys with money.

Do you not worry about life style and just go have fun & figure it out later?

Life is so weird 😂🤦‍♀️

What’s your sun, moon, Venus, Mars?
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I grew up middle class, went to school and have always worked to take care of myself. I was the breadwinner in my 2nd marriage and he came from money .. and it caused enabling for him, never learned to deal with problems, alcohol issue and now needs a liver transplant. I walked away after 20 years ago from the enabling and refusing to be dragged down into it cuz after we moved enabling by his parents became unbearable. It’s what he chose. Money, enabling, image.

I’m Sag sun, aqua moon, cap Venus & mars. Yes I work my ass off!! Am momma bear, handle everything..

I want an equal but have been struggling with that. I always end up with the guy whose not really an equal and they have trouble with that after awhile. Case in point:The Cap plus I live in an area it’s tough to find good jobs although I have one. I really don’t like the professional cuz they are usually boring.. blue collar or own a business is more my type .. and cool. A motorcycle even better! 😂😂

Anyway the Libra who I was hanging out with him had a good job ( but looks like he’s throwing it away), not very motivated, has decent money & is BORING! Lol oh professional not so cool lol

So I joined the online dating site again and decided to really check things out..

I went out with:

a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.

A Leo who takes me out for a “meet” date & drops over a $ 100 on sushi. Weird. Fun date. Good job but super busy. And I don’t know there’s a bit of a too intense vibe.. not making much effort.. super crazy busy but red ponds.

A Gemini massive chemistry and I think he just thought I was sexy and wanted my body. Lot of money and all about image!!! But I think disrespectful and serious lack of control..

Interesting week yes..

I’m going out with the Scorpio two more times.. I’m seriously considering having fun & see where it goes. But I am concerned.. about the life style . Am I back to taking care of someone? He told me always takes care of self and family.. but ya know not on what I’m used to. I have a townhouse I own. A good job, like dies it even matter. Maybe being happy and around someone genuine is really all that matters.. it’s what I’m leaning towards.. some tell me to keep searching.. don’t settle! But is a genuine person really settling? Leo & Gemini obviously are not happening.. and I think I’m going to stay here, so there aren’t many choices.

I can’t fit the puzzle pieces. But I’m hanging out with Scorpio twice this weekend. Maybe I won’t care after the weekend. We shall see.

I’m tired. I’d just like to be treated well and loved and love someone again. But I don’t really want to live like I’m poor.. who knows if it goes there but if miss aqua moon here goes all in, I’m in whatever it is. So I have to think about these things. Look at the Cap when I didn’t worry about certain things!!



Also wondering how others are. And a Scorpio! 😳😳 lol
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i don't know anymore.

there is something in the inequality of money for both sides that can definitely affect the relationship and it's not just about image at all. there's perception, resentments and expectations by both sides.

currently seeing someone i have this issue with. thing is i'm used to being with people who don't mind spending so much and have the means to do so. some of them genuine, some not so but this guy i haven't made up my mind about him yet.
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like how poor because we're all on the same boat unless in that top 10% that do horrible things...

i think all that is workable with chemistry... if there's no chemistry, they can be poor or rich, it is never going to work. like i cannot have sex just for the money.... or can i ? 😏😏😏 i know i cant.... i would cry.

If you have to ask, you haven't seen poor.

probably. i havent seen a lot of things... meow i feel bad.

No need to feel bad. I was never dirt poor, myself, just regular poor, but I witnessed it up close.

i cannot handle it...

Whatcha mean? I'm sorry I disagreed with you...again. It's really not personal. My filter got turned off this week by my period.

sorry? everyone is acting so strange to day -______- i guess im sorry bc your're on your period

Yes. I'm sorry if it seems like I have a personal vendetta and want to argue with everything you say. That is not the case with anyone here. If I ever get to the point that everything someone says triggers me, I mute them.
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How many do you have muted? 😛
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like how poor because we're all on the same boat unless in that top 10% that do horrible things...

i think all that is workable with chemistry... if there's no chemistry, they can be poor or rich, it is never going to work. like i cannot have sex just for the money.... or can i ? 😏😏😏 i know i cant.... i would cry.

If you have to ask, you haven't seen poor.

probably. i havent seen a lot of things... meow i feel bad.

No need to feel bad. I was never dirt poor, myself, just regular poor, but I witnessed it up close.

i cannot handle it...

Whatcha mean? I'm sorry I disagreed with you...again. It's really not personal. My filter got turned off this week by my period.

sorry? everyone is acting so strange to day -______- i guess im sorry bc your're on your period

Yes. I'm sorry if it seems like I have a personal vendetta and want to argue with everything you say. That is not the case with anyone here. If I ever get to the point that everything someone says triggers me, I mute them.

How many do you have muted? 😛

two
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That's not too bad!
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Posted by HearttofTopazz

As many times as you mentioned his life style and finances I don’t think that you’ll be content with him in the future. Just enjoy the company for now. Keep things simple.

To answer the question, I’ve been on both sides of this situation and I chose something in the middle. Scorpio sun/moon/mars, Virgo Venus


That’s what I’m worried about. But it’s possible I’m worrying for nothing. Damn Sag hope!
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like how poor because we're all on the same boat unless in that top 10% that do horrible things...

i think all that is workable with chemistry... if there's no chemistry, they can be poor or rich, it is never going to work. like i cannot have sex just for the money.... or can i ? 😏😏😏 i know i cant.... i would cry.

If you have to ask, you haven't seen poor.

probably. i havent seen a lot of things... meow i feel bad.

No need to feel bad. I was never dirt poor, myself, just regular poor, but I witnessed it up close.

i cannot handle it...

Whatcha mean? I'm sorry I disagreed with you...again. It's really not personal. My filter got turned off this week by my period.

sorry? everyone is acting so strange to day -______- i guess im sorry bc your're on your period

Yes. I'm sorry if it seems like I have a personal vendetta and want to argue with everything you say. That is not the case with anyone here. If I ever get to the point that everything someone says triggers me, I mute them.

How many do you have muted? 😛

two

That's not too bad!

Even those two probably have interesting things to say, but it's not worth getting pissed once or twice a week.
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I'm passed anyone pissing me off lol ... took a lot of work but worth it 🙂
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I honestly think people do better with someone from a relatively similar background. The amount of money a family and community has affects values and culture. It's more than just money.

i agree with this

the dudes from wealthy families always had a weird “slumming it” kinda vibe when we dated. like class tourism or something gross
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condescending?
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like how poor because we're all on the same boat unless in that top 10% that do horrible things...

i think all that is workable with chemistry... if there's no chemistry, they can be poor or rich, it is never going to work. like i cannot have sex just for the money.... or can i ? 😏😏😏 i know i cant.... i would cry.

If you have to ask, you haven't seen poor.

probably. i havent seen a lot of things... meow i feel bad.

No need to feel bad. I was never dirt poor, myself, just regular poor, but I witnessed it up close.

i cannot handle it...

Whatcha mean? I'm sorry I disagreed with you...again. It's really not personal. My filter got turned off this week by my period.

sorry? everyone is acting so strange to day -______- i guess im sorry bc your're on your period

Yes. I'm sorry if it seems like I have a personal vendetta and want to argue with everything you say. That is not the case with anyone here. If I ever get to the point that everything someone says triggers me, I mute them.

How many do you have muted? 😛

two

That's not too bad!

Even those two probably have interesting things to say, but it's not worth getting pissed once or twice a week.

True

I'm passed anyone pissing me off lol ... took a lot of work but worth it 🙂

Or do you hide it and make snide comments? 😉
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No I don't....i let it go over my head.....really...👍

I've been to hell and back a few times, so i guess it isn't something that bothers me...well not anymore anyway..

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like how poor because we're all on the same boat unless in that top 10% that do horrible things...

i think all that is workable with chemistry... if there's no chemistry, they can be poor or rich, it is never going to work. like i cannot have sex just for the money.... or can i ? 😏😏😏 i know i cant.... i would cry.

If you have to ask, you haven't seen poor.

probably. i havent seen a lot of things... meow i feel bad.

No need to feel bad. I was never dirt poor, myself, just regular poor, but I witnessed it up close.

i cannot handle it...

Whatcha mean? I'm sorry I disagreed with you...again. It's really not personal. My filter got turned off this week by my period.

sorry? everyone is acting so strange to day -______- i guess im sorry bc your're on your period

Yes. I'm sorry if it seems like I have a personal vendetta and want to argue with everything you say. That is not the case with anyone here. If I ever get to the point that everything someone says triggers me, I mute them.

How many do you have muted? 😛

two

That's not too bad!

Even those two probably have interesting things to say, but it's not worth getting pissed once or twice a week.

True

I'm passed anyone pissing me off lol ... took a lot of work but worth it 🙂

Or do you hide it and make snide comments? 😉

No I don't....i let it go over my head.....really...👍

I've been to hell and back a few times, so i guess it isn't something that bothers me...well not anymore anyway..

I wish I could say that. Most of it doesn't bother me, but sometimes people really piss me off.
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Just remember they usually have issues with themselves...

There's a guy here who was always trying
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I honestly think people do better with someone from a relatively similar background. The amount of money a family and community has affects values and culture. It's more than just money.

i agree with this

the dudes from wealthy families always had a weird “slumming it” kinda vibe when we dated. like class tourism or something gross

condescending?

hmm ... no, maybe a little? it was more so like they began to talk about how “broke” they were, or started drinking cheap beer, & eating bodega food.

that’s been a consistent pattern
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know what's really annoying, though?

people who used to be poor then got a bit more money and now they're just arrogant coz they're 'self-made.' nobody more arrogant than people who 'rose from the ashes.' falling for your own hype. condescension follows.

i'd rather we go dutch or we pay for things alternately. you pay this time, me next time or i'll pay some of these and you pay others. as a libra mars, i need to feel some type of equality. but unfortunately, that's not something you can get from someone who has less than you or more than you.
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like how poor because we're all on the same boat unless in that top 10% that do horrible things...

i think all that is workable with chemistry... if there's no chemistry, they can be poor or rich, it is never going to work. like i cannot have sex just for the money.... or can i ? 😏😏😏 i know i cant.... i would cry.

If you have to ask, you haven't seen poor.

probably. i havent seen a lot of things... meow i feel bad.

No need to feel bad. I was never dirt poor, myself, just regular poor, but I witnessed it up close.

i cannot handle it...

Whatcha mean? I'm sorry I disagreed with you...again. It's really not personal. My filter got turned off this week by my period.

sorry? everyone is acting so strange to day -______- i guess im sorry bc your're on your period

Yes. I'm sorry if it seems like I have a personal vendetta and want to argue with everything you say. That is not the case with anyone here. If I ever get to the point that everything someone says triggers me, I mute them.

How many do you have muted? 😛

two

That's not too bad!

Even those two probably have interesting things to say, but it's not worth getting pissed once or twice a week.

True

I'm passed anyone pissing me off lol ... took a lot of work but worth it 🙂

Or do you hide it and make snide comments? 😉

No I don't....i let it go over my head.....really...👍

I've been to hell and back a few times, so i guess it isn't something that bothers me...well not anymore anyway..

I wish I could say that. Most of it doesn't bother me, but sometimes people really piss me off.

Just remember they usually have issues with themselves...

There's a guy here who was always trying

I'm not interested in insulting other people either. I just want us to let each other be.
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Posted by MissKrabs

can't relate, where i am there are several types of poor and rich.

tho to an extent i can get the dilemma. in a perfect world the scorpio who seemed to make the best impression would be a nice choice but yeah, there's a possibility of resentment from both sides. so yeah keep it light and see how it goes, but that's an advice in any situation. idk maybe it really doesn't matter. i mean if he is hardworking and self sufficient.


It’s very rural here. So part of my dilemma is do i move somewhere there are more options. I really don’t want to lol. It’s a gorgeous area & my kids are here. This guy & I connect in some ways.. yeah I think I’m going to hang out with him and just see what happens. He can take care of himself & is hardworking. So maybe it won’t matter & us together would be a better situation ( one I could live with). It may never get there either. So we’re going to dinner Friday & hiking Sunday. So think I’ll just enjoy! He’s a nice guy 🙂 I will just have to not worry about things that might not matter.
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I was raised in a family with little money because my dad insisted my mum stay home to mind us. I wouldn't have changed that for the world. It has helped me to value money. I've known what it is to live in a cold house where my mother had to make money stretch far but she was always there for us with food on the table ❤️

We were quite poor, but not as bad as these poor blokes though

"Lick road clean with tongue" 😆

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I honestly think people do better with someone from a relatively similar background. The amount of money a family and community has affects values and culture. It's more than just money.

i agree with this

the dudes from wealthy families always had a weird “slumming it” kinda vibe when we dated. like class tourism or something gross

condescending?

hmm ... no, maybe a little? it was more so like they began to talk about how “broke” they were, or started drinking cheap beer, & eating bodega food.

that’s been a consistent pattern

know what's really annoying, though?

people who used to be poor then got a bit more money and now they're just arrogant coz they're 'self-made.' nobody more arrogant than people who 'rose from the ashes.' falling for your own hype. condescension follows.

i'd rather we go dutch or we pay for things alternately. you pay this time, me next time or i'll pay some of these and you pay others. as a libra mars, i need to feel some type of equality. but unfortunately, that's not something you can get from someone who has less than you or more than you.

I may be a little guilty of this. I'm not rich by any stretch of the imagination, but I am proud of the fact that my sister and I both got advanced degrees and created solid middle class lives for ourselves. We started out living well below the poverty line, and after my dad died, we were kind of a charity case. I watched my mom work hard so she could raise us on her own without help, and I admired that. So I guess I do take pride in the fact that everything I have was earned. It was not given to me.
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there's always somebody with a similar story like that. good to know but i'm tired of hearing about it, no offense. this guy on the first date had a 'from the ashes' speech by way of introduction yet he says we should only 'look into the future'.

victory speeches are just sob stories completed.

i don't wanna see what card the hand of fate has dealt you with, especially on the first date.

like chill bro.
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Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns

Someone probably already said this but some of the richest people can look poor and be the least flashy.

I’m not very materialistic but I like nice things. Not bothered if I have them or not.


Some poor can look rich lol

It’s not the case. We will have to spend more time together & see what’s really up. I’m glad he’s back from vacation & wants to see me though. That’s says something.
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I honestly think people do better with someone from a relatively similar background. The amount of money a family and community has affects values and culture. It's more than just money.

i agree with this

the dudes from wealthy families always had a weird “slumming it” kinda vibe when we dated. like class tourism or something gross

condescending?

hmm ... no, maybe a little? it was more so like they began to talk about how “broke” they were, or started drinking cheap beer, & eating bodega food.

that’s been a consistent pattern

know what's really annoying, though?

people who used to be poor then got a bit more money and now they're just arrogant coz they're 'self-made.' nobody more arrogant than people who 'rose from the ashes.' falling for your own hype. condescension follows.

i'd rather we go dutch or we pay for things alternately. you pay this time, me next time or i'll pay some of these and you pay others. as a libra mars, i need to feel some type of equality. but unfortunately, that's not something you can get from someone who has less than you or more than you.

I may be a little guilty of this. I'm not rich by any stretch of the imagination, but I am proud of the fact that my sister and I both got advanced degrees and created solid middle class lives for ourselves. We started out living well below the poverty line, and after my dad died, we were kind of a charity case. I watched my mom work hard so she could raise us on her own without help, and I admired that. So I guess I do take pride in the fact that everything I have was earned. It was not given to me.

there's always somebody with a similar story like that. good to know but i'm tired of hearing about it, no offense. this guy on the first date had a 'from the ashes' speech by way of introduction yet he says we should only 'look into the future'.

victory speeches are just sob stories completed.

i don't wanna see what card the hand of fate has dealt you with, especially on the first date.

like chill bro.

You just sound defensive to me. You definitely shouldn't date someone who has had to work hard to get where they are and is proud of it, because you clearly don't respect or understand the struggle.
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it's not that i don't respect it but it comes off very arrogant to me.

i don't understand it coz life itself, no matter where you are is a struggle in itself. and if it's not material burden, then it's some other burden (perhaps of the spirit?).
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I mean, the house I lived in until I was 9 had one wood burning stove and a cistern for water.

And I still knew people considerably poorer.


What’s a cistern? Wood burning stoves are very common here & he has one.. in a modified mobile home in 2 acres. Not sure exactly what modified means? Part of it is the area, and I grew up in the suburbs. There aren’t many good jobs here seriously. It’s a tough area to survive in. He has been. Had a house when he was married, but now this is where he’s at & working his ass off. He actually grew up down south like me. Enjoys doing a lot of things like me. I’m trying not to judge but I have to say it concerns me.
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Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom

Image doesn't always come with money though. Some of the wealthiest people I know look and act like the average Joe and don't show off their wealth or status, you wouldn't know they are rich if they didn't tell you.


Very true and familiar with this. I’ve dated a few guys who came from money & married one. Never knew about it until they told me.

This guy is not the case though. He’s told me his situation.
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I honestly think people do better with someone from a relatively similar background. The amount of money a family and community has affects values and culture. It's more than just money.

i agree with this

the dudes from wealthy families always had a weird “slumming it” kinda vibe when we dated. like class tourism or something gross

condescending?

hmm ... no, maybe a little? it was more so like they began to talk about how “broke” they were, or started drinking cheap beer, & eating bodega food.

that’s been a consistent pattern

know what's really annoying, though?

people who used to be poor then got a bit more money and now they're just arrogant coz they're 'self-made.' nobody more arrogant than people who 'rose from the ashes.' falling for your own hype. condescension follows.

i'd rather we go dutch or we pay for things alternately. you pay this time, me next time or i'll pay some of these and you pay others. as a libra mars, i need to feel some type of equality. but unfortunately, that's not something you can get from someone who has less than you or more than you.

I may be a little guilty of this. I'm not rich by any stretch of the imagination, but I am proud of the fact that my sister and I both got advanced degrees and created solid middle class lives for ourselves. We started out living well below the poverty line, and after my dad died, we were kind of a charity case. I watched my mom work hard so she could raise us on her own without help, and I admired that. So I guess I do take pride in the fact that everything I have was earned. It was not given to me.

there's always somebody with a similar story like that. good to know but i'm tired of hearing about it, no offense. this guy on the first date had a 'from the ashes' speech by way of introduction yet he says we should only 'look into the future'.

victory speeches are just sob stories completed.

i don't wanna see what card the hand of fate has dealt you with, especially on the first date.

like chill bro.

You just sound defensive to me. You definitely shouldn't date someone who has had to work hard to get where they are and is proud of it, because you clearly don't respect or understand the struggle.

it's not that i don't respect it but it comes off very arrogant to me.

i don't understand it coz life itself, no matter where you are is a struggle in itself. and if it's not material burden, then it's some other burden (perhaps of the spirit?).

No offense, but this is spoken like a person who has never had to worry about their most basic necessities. Think of the Maslow's Hierachy of Needs, and you will understand why poor people actually HAVE had a harder life than you.

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i'm not saying that they didn't have a harder life.

nevermind it.
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I honestly think people do better with someone from a relatively similar background. The amount of money a family and community has affects values and culture. It's more than just money.

i agree with this

the dudes from wealthy families always had a weird “slumming it” kinda vibe when we dated. like class tourism or something gross

condescending?

hmm ... no, maybe a little? it was more so like they began to talk about how “broke” they were, or started drinking cheap beer, & eating bodega food.

that’s been a consistent pattern

know what's really annoying, though?

people who used to be poor then got a bit more money and now they're just arrogant coz they're 'self-made.' nobody more arrogant than people who 'rose from the ashes.' falling for your own hype. condescension follows.

i'd rather we go dutch or we pay for things alternately. you pay this time, me next time or i'll pay some of these and you pay others. as a libra mars, i need to feel some type of equality. but unfortunately, that's not something you can get from someone who has less than you or more than you.

I may be a little guilty of this. I'm not rich by any stretch of the imagination, but I am proud of the fact that my sister and I both got advanced degrees and created solid middle class lives for ourselves. We started out living well below the poverty line, and after my dad died, we were kind of a charity case. I watched my mom work hard so she could raise us on her own without help, and I admired that. So I guess I do take pride in the fact that everything I have was earned. It was not given to me.

there's always somebody with a similar story like that. good to know but i'm tired of hearing about it, no offense. this guy on the first date had a 'from the ashes' speech by way of introduction yet he says we should only 'look into the future'.

victory speeches are just sob stories completed.

i don't wanna see what card the hand of fate has dealt you with, especially on the first date.

like chill bro.

You just sound defensive to me. You definitely shouldn't date someone who has had to work hard to get where they are and is proud of it, because you clearly don't respect or understand the struggle.

it's not that i don't respect it but it comes off very arrogant to me.

i don't understand it coz life itself, no matter where you are is a struggle in itself. and if it's not material burden, then it's some other burden (perhaps of the spirit?).

No offense, but this is spoken like a person who has never had to worry about their most basic necessities. Think of the Maslow's Hierachy of Needs, and you will understand why poor people actually HAVE had a harder life than you.

https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html<div class="bqfade">click to expand



Not always though. Think of a rich couple that can't have children, they might see a poor couple with a bunch of kids as lucky and the poor couple might see the rich couple as "lucky bastards" for being rich. It is all relative and struggling for basic necessities isn't necessarily the hardest struggle in life, no matter what that Maslow pyramid says. You can't measure suffering and struggle based purely on economics.
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tbh biggest fake ass opportunist con artists are poor people logically

they always have some background story about struggling with drugs or some other struggle in their history and how they're now changed for the better, trying to keep themselves clean and shit

next thing you know, some poor simp's sending them cash then blocking them from all forms of communication
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I mean, the house I lived in until I was 9 had one wood burning stove and a cistern for water.

And I still knew people considerably poorer.

What’s a cistern? Wood burning stoves are very common here & he has one.. in a modified mobile home in 2 acres. Not sure exactly what modified means? Part of it is the area, and I grew up in the suburbs. There aren’t many good jobs here seriously. It’s a tough area to survive in. He has been. Had a house when he was married, but now this is where he’s at & working his ass off. He actually grew up down south like me. Enjoys doing a lot of things like me. I’m trying not to judge but I have to say it concerns me.

I'm not judging you at all. I don't see you turning your nose up. I see you being concerned about compatibility.

There are modern cisterns, but ours was the old crumbling, cement variety. It means city water didn't go out to the country where our little farm house was. The wood-burning stove was in the living room and was the only source of heat in the home, so the bedrooms were frosty. I used to be very concerned about how Santa Claus could fit down that tiny, narrow pipe and then out of the little stove door.
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Oh ok. Yeah lots of homes have wood stoves here. So I’m very familiar with that. Lmao on Santa Claus! This is a familiar issue here and perhaps I just have to see if it is actually a problem or not.
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tbh biggest fake ass opportunist con artists are poor people logically

they always have some background story about struggling with drugs or some other struggle in their history and how they're now changed for the better, trying to keep themselves clean and shit

next thing you know, some poor simp's sending them cash then blocking them from all forms of communication

Is that so?
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it makes more sense
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I honestly think people do better with someone from a relatively similar background. The amount of money a family and community has affects values and culture. It's more than just money.

i agree with this

the dudes from wealthy families always had a weird “slumming it” kinda vibe when we dated. like class tourism or something gross

condescending?

hmm ... no, maybe a little? it was more so like they began to talk about how “broke” they were, or started drinking cheap beer, & eating bodega food.

that’s been a consistent pattern

know what's really annoying, though?

people who used to be poor then got a bit more money and now they're just arrogant coz they're 'self-made.' nobody more arrogant than people who 'rose from the ashes.' falling for your own hype. condescension follows.

i'd rather we go dutch or we pay for things alternately. you pay this time, me next time or i'll pay some of these and you pay others. as a libra mars, i need to feel some type of equality. but unfortunately, that's not something you can get from someone who has less than you or more than you.

I may be a little guilty of this. I'm not rich by any stretch of the imagination, but I am proud of the fact that my sister and I both got advanced degrees and created solid middle class lives for ourselves. We started out living well below the poverty line, and after my dad died, we were kind of a charity case. I watched my mom work hard so she could raise us on her own without help, and I admired that. So I guess I do take pride in the fact that everything I have was earned. It was not given to me.

there's always somebody with a similar story like that. good to know but i'm tired of hearing about it, no offense. this guy on the first date had a 'from the ashes' speech by way of introduction yet he says we should only 'look into the future'.

victory speeches are just sob stories completed.

i don't wanna see what card the hand of fate has dealt you with, especially on the first date.

like chill bro.

You just sound defensive to me. You definitely shouldn't date someone who has had to work hard to get where they are and is proud of it, because you clearly don't respect or understand the struggle.

it's not that i don't respect it but it comes off very arrogant to me.

i don't understand it coz life itself, no matter where you are is a struggle in itself. and if it's not material burden, then it's some other burden (perhaps of the spirit?).

No offense, but this is spoken like a person who has never had to worry about their most basic necessities. Think of the Maslow's Hierachy of Needs, and you will understand why poor people actually HAVE had a harder life than you.

https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html

Not always though. Think of a rich couple that can't have children, they might see a poor couple with a bunch of kids as lucky and the poor couple might see the rich couple as "lucky bastards" for being rich. It is all relative and struggling for basic necessities isn't necessarily the hardest struggle in life, no matter what that Maslow pyramid says. You can't measure suffering and struggle based purely on economics.

Have you struggled for basics? If you haven't, I'd kindly ask you to sit down.
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That is irrelevant and even in the scenario that I never had to (which doesn't apply in my case) It's still a fact you can't fully monetize happiness in life, because happiness means different things to different people.

Explain to me why it is a common phenomenon that a lot of people who win the lottery end up a lot unhappier than they were when they were poor?
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tbh biggest fake ass opportunist con artists are poor people logically

they always have some background story about struggling with drugs or some other struggle in their history and how they're now changed for the better, trying to keep themselves clean and shit

next thing you know, some poor simp's sending them cash then blocking them from all forms of communication

Is that so?

it makes more sense

Thanks for the explanation. It relieves a lot of guilt.
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i know you're just sharing but some people actually use their struggles (past or current) to get ahead in life or dupe other people. and that's more likely to happen when you don't have much in life/desperate.

when you've been graced by much, that's not something you'd resort to other than for the lolz or well.... greed.
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Balance is key and keeps things good for me.

Scorpio, with all Fire in my chart.

Me too! I’ve been divorced 7 years and in a good space and really am wanting balance and stay in a good space. Do you find Scorpio & Sags work well or not? My daughter is a Scorpio so I am somewhat familiar. But never dated one.

Even though I have Sagittarius somewhere in my chart, I've never worked well with a Sagittarius.
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Thanks 🙂 I haven’t done well with Scorpio placements lol, but no experience with the sun really.
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Someone probably already said this but some of the richest people can look poor and be the least flashy.

I’m not very materialistic but I like nice things. Not bothered if I have them or not.

Some poor can look rich lol

It’s not the case. We will have to spend more time together & see what’s really up. I’m glad he’s back from vacation & wants to see me though. That’s says something.

If you enjoy your time together then does it matter what his financial status is? As long as he can pay his way and you have a similar outlook then it shouldn't make a difference.
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It shouldn’t. However, I go deep when in a relationship and I want to put myself in a good situation for the rest of life. Perhaps I’m trying to look at things differently idk. Date #3 is tomorrow so apparently I’m just in thinking mode 🤷‍♀️
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The reason those lottery-winners get depressed is because there was no SATISFACTION or FULFILLMENT in how they got their money. Those two things they did however get from working their asses off to cover their basic needs before winning the lottery. What was their belief before winning the lottery? Their belief was that all that money would make them happy because having money means being able to buy all the things you ever wanted so that means happy forever, right? Turns out being able to cover your basic needs as well buying all the things you need by the means of lottery money doesn't give you spiritual happiness, it simply gives you a temporary dopamine shot.

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I was raised in a family with little money because my dad insisted my mum stay home to mind us. I wouldn't have changed that for the world. It has helped me to value money. I've known what it is to live in a cold house where my mother had to make money stretch far but she was always there for us with food on the table ❤️

We were quite poor, but not as bad as these poor blokes though

"Lick road clean with tongue" 😆



Maybe you have experienced something fun that I got to experience as a poor kid in the winter. And I do really mean fun! It would be so cold, we slept in flannel nightgowns and sweater tights with piles of blankets and quilts on top of us. My sister and I would make a tent under the covers and make static cling sparks with our nightgowns. Those sparks were so big and bright.
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Aww that sounds fun 😀. I used to do similar stuff, imagining i was in different lands when i was under my blankets....like it was a tent...haha.

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I honestly think people do better with someone from a relatively similar background. The amount of money a family and community has affects values and culture. It's more than just money.

i agree with this

the dudes from wealthy families always had a weird “slumming it” kinda vibe when we dated. like class tourism or something gross

condescending?

hmm ... no, maybe a little? it was more so like they began to talk about how “broke” they were, or started drinking cheap beer, & eating bodega food.

that’s been a consistent pattern

know what's really annoying, though?

people who used to be poor then got a bit more money and now they're just arrogant coz they're 'self-made.' nobody more arrogant than people who 'rose from the ashes.' falling for your own hype. condescension follows.

i'd rather we go dutch or we pay for things alternately. you pay this time, me next time or i'll pay some of these and you pay others. as a libra mars, i need to feel some type of equality. but unfortunately, that's not something you can get from someone who has less than you or more than you.

I may be a little guilty of this. I'm not rich by any stretch of the imagination, but I am proud of the fact that my sister and I both got advanced degrees and created solid middle class lives for ourselves. We started out living well below the poverty line, and after my dad died, we were kind of a charity case. I watched my mom work hard so she could raise us on her own without help, and I admired that. So I guess I do take pride in the fact that everything I have was earned. It was not given to me.

there's always somebody with a similar story like that. good to know but i'm tired of hearing about it, no offense. this guy on the first date had a 'from the ashes' speech by way of introduction yet he says we should only 'look into the future'.

victory speeches are just sob stories completed.

i don't wanna see what card the hand of fate has dealt you with, especially on the first date.

like chill bro.

You just sound defensive to me. You definitely shouldn't date someone who has had to work hard to get where they are and is proud of it, because you clearly don't respect or understand the struggle.

it's not that i don't respect it but it comes off very arrogant to me.

i don't understand it coz life itself, no matter where you are is a struggle in itself. and if it's not material burden, then it's some other burden (perhaps of the spirit?).

No offense, but this is spoken like a person who has never had to worry about their most basic necessities. Think of the Maslow's Hierachy of Needs, and you will understand why poor people actually HAVE had a harder life than you.

https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html

Not always though. Think of a rich couple that can't have children, they might see a poor couple with a bunch of kids as lucky and the poor couple might see the rich couple as "lucky bastards" for being rich. It is all relative and struggling for basic necessities isn't necessarily the hardest struggle in life, no matter what that Maslow pyramid says. You can't measure suffering and struggle based purely on economics.

Have you struggled for basics? If you haven't, I'd kindly ask you to sit down.

That is irrelevant and even in the scenario that I never had to (which doesn't apply in my case) It's still a fact you can't fully monetize happiness in life, because happiness means different things to different people.

Explain to me why it is a common phenomenon that a lot of people who win the lottery end up a lot unhappier than they were when they were poor?

Being born into a poor family where getting one's needs met is not a given shapes who a person grows up to be and their ability to trust in the world around them. You don't change that by suddenly throwing a million dollars at someone.
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Actually we both agree as far as that. The point I was trying to make with the lottery example is that being able to cover your basic needs by means of a lottery is not going to give you lasting happiness. The happiness you would feel from the fulfillment and satisfaction of working your ass off to make ends meet.
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tbh biggest fake ass opportunist con artists are poor people logically

they always have some background story about struggling with drugs or some other struggle in their history and how they're now changed for the better, trying to keep themselves clean and shit

next thing you know, some poor simp's sending them cash then blocking them from all forms of communication

Is that so?

it makes more sense

Thanks for the explanation. It relieves a lot of guilt.

i know you're just sharing but some people actually use their struggles (past or current) to get ahead in life or dupe other people. and that's more likely to happen when you don't have much in life/desperate.

when you've been graced by much, that's not something you'd resort to other than for the lolz or well.... greed.

That's why you don't give anyone more than you're able to give freely and forget about. Then what they do with a gift isn't your concern.
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no concern of mine what they do with a gift.

it's just that i've seen a lot of relationships where someone's being constantly drained of resources and i admit to have very little idea of the inner workings of those relationships but i can't help but be kinda disgusted. it's just a natural reflex to recoil even in.... 'perceived inequality.' some people get into relationships genuinely out of affection or sentiment. getting into one for resources is just something i look down on. i'm sorry.
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tbh biggest fake ass opportunist con artists are poor people logically

they always have some background story about struggling with drugs or some other struggle in their history and how they're now changed for the better, trying to keep themselves clean and shit

next thing you know, some poor simp's sending them cash then blocking them from all forms of communication

Is that so?

it makes more sense

Thanks for the explanation. It relieves a lot of guilt.

i know you're just sharing but some people actually use their struggles (past or current) to get ahead in life or dupe other people. and that's more likely to happen when you don't have much in life/desperate.

when you've been graced by much, that's not something you'd resort to other than for the lolz or well.... greed.

That's why you don't give anyone more than you're able to give freely and forget about. Then what they do with a gift isn't your concern.

no concern of mine what they do with a gift.

it's just that i've seen a lot of relationships where someone's being constantly drained of resources and i admit to have very little idea of the inner workings of those relationships but i can't help but be kinda disgusted. it's just a natural reflex to recoil even in.... 'perceived inequality.' some people get into relationships genuinely out of affection or sentiment. getting into one for resources is just something i look down on. i'm sorry.

Do you mean like sugar baby/daddy situations? I think it's gross. I am judgmental about that.
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i was watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and there's this girl called 'Erika Jayne' who used to be a waitress in a restaurant that the wealthy Thomas Girardi would often frequent. they've got a 30+ years difference in age but he did look more youthful when they first met. and i won't pretend to know what happens in other people's relationships but can only speculate logically if i were to associate it with my own and what i've observed from others. but the way she politely asks him for things (even almost detached), made me play with the idea of how so many people possibly just got into a relationship maybe not always 'only' but 'mainly' for the resources. and that led to the question: "is it still gold digging at the 15 year mark?'

do people stay in relationships for a long time not out of affection or sentiment but simply for resources?

and how that makes one not so different from any other sex worker who offers their service for a fee.
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I honestly think people do better with someone from a relatively similar background. The amount of money a family and community has affects values and culture. It's more than just money.

i agree with this

the dudes from wealthy families always had a weird “slumming it” kinda vibe when we dated. like class tourism or something gross

condescending?

hmm ... no, maybe a little? it was more so like they began to talk about how “broke” they were, or started drinking cheap beer, & eating bodega food.

that’s been a consistent pattern

know what's really annoying, though?

people who used to be poor then got a bit more money and now they're just arrogant coz they're 'self-made.' nobody more arrogant than people who 'rose from the ashes.' falling for your own hype. condescension follows.

i'd rather we go dutch or we pay for things alternately. you pay this time, me next time or i'll pay some of these and you pay others. as a libra mars, i need to feel some type of equality. but unfortunately, that's not something you can get from someone who has less than you or more than you.

I may be a little guilty of this. I'm not rich by any stretch of the imagination, but I am proud of the fact that my sister and I both got advanced degrees and created solid middle class lives for ourselves. We started out living well below the poverty line, and after my dad died, we were kind of a charity case. I watched my mom work hard so she could raise us on her own without help, and I admired that. So I guess I do take pride in the fact that everything I have was earned. It was not given to me.

there's always somebody with a similar story like that. good to know but i'm tired of hearing about it, no offense. this guy on the first date had a 'from the ashes' speech by way of introduction yet he says we should only 'look into the future'.

victory speeches are just sob stories completed.

i don't wanna see what card the hand of fate has dealt you with, especially on the first date.

like chill bro.

You just sound defensive to me. You definitely shouldn't date someone who has had to work hard to get where they are and is proud of it, because you clearly don't respect or understand the struggle.

it's not that i don't respect it but it comes off very arrogant to me.

i don't understand it coz life itself, no matter where you are is a struggle in itself. and if it's not material burden, then it's some other burden (perhaps of the spirit?).

No offense, but this is spoken like a person who has never had to worry about their most basic necessities. Think of the Maslow's Hierachy of Needs, and you will understand why poor people actually HAVE had a harder life than you.

https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html

Not always though. Think of a rich couple that can't have children, they might see a poor couple with a bunch of kids as lucky and the poor couple might see the rich couple as "lucky bastards" for being rich. It is all relative and struggling for basic necessities isn't necessarily the hardest struggle in life, no matter what that Maslow pyramid says. You can't measure suffering and struggle based purely on economics.

Have you struggled for basics? If you haven't, I'd kindly ask you to sit down.

That is irrelevant and even in the scenario that I never had to (which doesn't apply in my case) It's still a fact you can't fully monetize happiness in life, because happiness means different things to different people.

Explain to me why it is a common phenomenon that a lot of people who win the lottery end up a lot unhappier than they were when they were poor?

Being born into a poor family where getting one's needs met is not a given shapes who a person grows up to be and their ability to trust in the world around them. You don't change that by suddenly throwing a million dollars at someone.

Actually we both agree as far as that. The point I was trying to make with the lottery example is that being able to cover your basic needs by means of a lottery is not going to give you lasting happiness. The happiness you would feel from the fulfillment and satisfaction of working your ass off to make ends meet.

Yeah, I do agree with that, as long as the most basic needs are met. I've heard about studies that found that more money helps happiness up to a certain point, and then more money after that starts to decrease happiness. Have you heard of that? I guess we're not good with either droughts or floods. I know I feel better about myself when I'm doing something that concretely improves my life, and nothing is more concrete than earning money to pay for your stuff.
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I would add that no longer having to work for your basic needs does not necessarily mean you will be happier than having to work your ass off for them.

Different circumstances bring different types of worries in life, more money does not necessarily mean you will have to worry less about money than when you're poor. Why is that? Because when you're rich (and especially stinky rich) you can live in constant worry (sometimes even distrust of others and paranoia about their true motivations for being in your life) for things like: fear of your fortune not showing growth or even worse, showing a decrease of it. Fear of making the wrong investments. Fear of having to pay too many taxes to the point their wealth decreases considerably. Fear of so-called investment experts wanting to trick you or being incompetent: result = losing a lot of money. Fear that nobody will want to be in a relationship with you purely for how you are as a person.

I can go on and on, but I'm sure you catch my drift.

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I don’t care about money

Also I don’t believe those are the only two options

What do you mean?

I just think it’s an oversimplification to only have either “money & image or poor and genuine” I think people are more varied and complicated than that
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Ok yes that’s true. I just see these things consistently in this area. But every person is different. I’m kinda in between actually.
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Posted by Phantom_Dangus
Posted by virgoOPPP
Posted by Phantom_Dangus
Posted by virgoOPPP

tbh biggest fake ass opportunist con artists are poor people logically

they always have some background story about struggling with drugs or some other struggle in their history and how they're now changed for the better, trying to keep themselves clean and shit

next thing you know, some poor simp's sending them cash then blocking them from all forms of communication

Is that so?

it makes more sense

Thanks for the explanation. It relieves a lot of guilt.

i know you're just sharing but some people actually use their struggles (past or current) to get ahead in life or dupe other people. and that's more likely to happen when you don't have much in life/desperate.

when you've been graced by much, that's not something you'd resort to other than for the lolz or well.... greed.

That's why you don't give anyone more than you're able to give freely and forget about. Then what they do with a gift isn't your concern.

no concern of mine what they do with a gift.

it's just that i've seen a lot of relationships where someone's being constantly drained of resources and i admit to have very little idea of the inner workings of those relationships but i can't help but be kinda disgusted. it's just a natural reflex to recoil even in.... 'perceived inequality.' some people get into relationships genuinely out of affection or sentiment. getting into one for resources is just something i look down on. i'm sorry.

Do you mean like sugar baby/daddy situations? I think it's gross. I am judgmental about that.

i was watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and there's this girl called 'Erika Jayne' who used to be a waitress in a restaurant that the wealthy Thomas Girardi would often frequent. they've got a 30+ years difference in age but he did look more youthful when they first met. and i won't pretend to know what happens in other people's relationships but can only speculate logically if i were to associate it with my own and what i've observed from others. but the way she politely asks him for things (even almost detached), made me play with the idea of how so many people possibly just got into a relationship maybe not always 'only' but 'mainly' for the resources. and that led to the question: "is it still gold digging at the 15 year mark?'

do people stay in relationships for a long time not out of affection or sentiment but simply for resources?

and how that makes one not so different from any other sex worker who offers their service for a fee.

That is such a man argument. Maybe because historically men usually had more money. I don't know how the inner workings of a relationship like that goes. I only know what it's like to work my ass off toward common goals.
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my scorpio sun/cap moon co-worker commented that 'men who complain about gold diggers are complaining about something that women have been doing for many years. they don't know anything about women so they should not be with one at all.'

i actually agree with him but then again, he uses STUFF to win women over to him. and that's where i disagree with him. he's only attracting the sort of women like his ex wife who used him for money.
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