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I wouldn’t give a shit if I like said person. I am very adjustable with excellent problem solving skills.
Like my Aries said - you can take 2 ingredients and make a meal out of it. I can live in more or less - I do r care. If I love him I’ll adopt to any cituation.
But I never in my life settled for anybody. I fall in love from the first sight and then whatever he is - I’ll be fine with it.
I love lobster and filet mignon and foe gra but is it deciding factor if I can’t have it? No shit!
I’ll cook meal from scratch that’ll be as satisfying as all I can’t have.
Posted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Posted by Phantom_DangusI'd always choose poor and genuine. I grew up around poor and genuine and still judge people by character, not status.
+1
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPtbh biggest fake ass opportunist con artists are poor people logically
they always have some background story about struggling with drugs or some other struggle in their history and how they're now changed for the better, trying to keep themselves clean and shit
next thing you know, some poor simp's sending them cash then blocking them from all forms of communication
Is that so?
it makes more sense
Thanks for the explanation. It relieves a lot of guilt.
i know you're just sharing but some people actually use their struggles (past or current) to get ahead in life or dupe other people. and that's more likely to happen when you don't have much in life/desperate.
when you've been graced by much, that's not something you'd resort to other than for the lolz or well.... greed.
That's why you don't give anyone more than you're able to give freely and forget about. Then what they do with a gift isn't your concern.
no concern of mine what they do with a gift.
it's just that i've seen a lot of relationships where someone's being constantly drained of resources and i admit to have very little idea of the inner workings of those relationships but i can't help but be kinda disgusted. it's just a natural reflex to recoil even in.... 'perceived inequality.' some people get into relationships genuinely out of affection or sentiment. getting into one for resources is just something i look down on. i'm sorry.
Do you mean like sugar baby/daddy situations? I think it's gross. I am judgmental about that.
i was watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and there's this girl called 'Erika Jayne' who used to be a waitress in a restaurant that the wealthy Thomas Girardi would often frequent. they've got a 30+ years difference in age but he did look more youthful when they first met. and i won't pretend to know what happens in other people's relationships but can only speculate logically if i were to associate it with my own and what i've observed from others. but the way she politely asks him for things (even almost detached), made me play with the idea of how so many people possibly just got into a relationship maybe not always 'only' but 'mainly' for the resources. and that led to the question: "is it still gold digging at the 15 year mark?'
do people stay in relationships for a long time not out of affection or sentiment but simply for resources?
and how that makes one not so different from any other sex worker who offers their service for a fee.
That is such a man argument. Maybe because historically men usually had more money. I don't know how the inner workings of a relationship like that goes. I only know what it's like to work my ass off toward common goals.
my scorpio sun/cap moon co-worker commented that 'men who complain about gold diggers are complaining about something that women have been doing for many years. they don't know anything about about women so they should not be with one at all.'
i actually agree with him but then again, he uses STUFF to win women over to him. and that's where i disagree with him. he's only attracting the sort of women like his ex wife who used him for money.
Women have only been able to earn our own money for a short amount of human history. And they've only been choosing their own spouses for a relatively short period of time too. It's not like this is a trait women are born with. Each of us survives within the context we're born.
and here's the reality of it:
when a female has more resources (doesn't matter if she worked for it or was born into it) and a male with less resources go for her (and the male does not even TRY much to spend a bit), that relationship will most likely go down the dumps.
it could be his resentment due to the feeling of inadequacy or the failure to provide or her disappointment due to how she can perceive this as his 'lack of effort'"i got him an expensive membership for _____ and he can't even spend on an ice cream cone for me."
Why would she feel like that if she knows his circumstances? Why would she expect the impossible? As for the guy feeling inadequate, that's a social problem.
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is anyone really too poor for an ice cream cone?
that's what i mean by 'perceived lack of effort.'
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
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Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
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right?
it's not that he doesn't have the money but he just doesn't wanna spend it on you.
Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPtbh biggest fake ass opportunist con artists are poor people logically
they always have some background story about struggling with drugs or some other struggle in their history and how they're now changed for the better, trying to keep themselves clean and shit
next thing you know, some poor simp's sending them cash then blocking them from all forms of communication
Is that so?
it makes more sense
Thanks for the explanation. It relieves a lot of guilt.
i know you're just sharing but some people actually use their struggles (past or current) to get ahead in life or dupe other people. and that's more likely to happen when you don't have much in life/desperate.
when you've been graced by much, that's not something you'd resort to other than for the lolz or well.... greed.
That's why you don't give anyone more than you're able to give freely and forget about. Then what they do with a gift isn't your concern.
no concern of mine what they do with a gift.
it's just that i've seen a lot of relationships where someone's being constantly drained of resources and i admit to have very little idea of the inner workings of those relationships but i can't help but be kinda disgusted. it's just a natural reflex to recoil even in.... 'perceived inequality.' some people get into relationships genuinely out of affection or sentiment. getting into one for resources is just something i look down on. i'm sorry.
Do you mean like sugar baby/daddy situations? I think it's gross. I am judgmental about that.
i was watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and there's this girl called 'Erika Jayne' who used to be a waitress in a restaurant that the wealthy Thomas Girardi would often frequent. they've got a 30+ years difference in age but he did look more youthful when they first met. and i won't pretend to know what happens in other people's relationships but can only speculate logically if i were to associate it with my own and what i've observed from others. but the way she politely asks him for things (even almost detached), made me play with the idea of how so many people possibly just got into a relationship maybe not always 'only' but 'mainly' for the resources. and that led to the question: "is it still gold digging at the 15 year mark?'
do people stay in relationships for a long time not out of affection or sentiment but simply for resources?
and how that makes one not so different from any other sex worker who offers their service for a fee.
That is such a man argument. Maybe because historically men usually had more money. I don't know how the inner workings of a relationship like that goes. I only know what it's like to work my ass off toward common goals.
my scorpio sun/cap moon co-worker commented that 'men who complain about gold diggers are complaining about something that women have been doing for many years. they don't know anything about about women so they should not be with one at all.'
i actually agree with him but then again, he uses STUFF to win women over to him. and that's where i disagree with him. he's only attracting the sort of women like his ex wife who used him for money.
Women have only been able to earn our own money for a short amount of human history. And they've only been choosing their own spouses for a relatively short period of time too. It's not like this is a trait women are born with. Each of us survives within the context we're born.
and here's the reality of it:
when a female has more resources (doesn't matter if she worked for it or was born into it) and a male with less resources go for her (and the male does not even TRY much to spend a bit), that relationship will most likely go down the dumps.
it could be his resentment due to the feeling of inadequacy or the failure to provide or her disappointment due to how she can perceive this as his 'lack of effort'"i got him an expensive membership for _____ and he can't even spend on an ice cream cone for me."
Why would she feel like that if she knows his circumstances? Why would she expect the impossible? As for the guy feeling inadequate, that's a social problem.
is anyone really too poor for an ice cream cone?
that's what i mean by 'perceived lack of effort.'
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Yes that is lack of effort! Most guys want to be able to support the woman. They have trouble & get jealous when you say own property and they can’t afford it.. or buy something like a new car or a timeshare when they can’t do it. Then that causes trouble in the relationship.. their sense of inadequacy. My experience anyway.
Posted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
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Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
Posted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPtbh biggest fake ass opportunist con artists are poor people logically
they always have some background story about struggling with drugs or some other struggle in their history and how they're now changed for the better, trying to keep themselves clean and shit
next thing you know, some poor simp's sending them cash then blocking them from all forms of communication
Is that so?
it makes more sense
Thanks for the explanation. It relieves a lot of guilt.
i know you're just sharing but some people actually use their struggles (past or current) to get ahead in life or dupe other people. and that's more likely to happen when you don't have much in life/desperate.
when you've been graced by much, that's not something you'd resort to other than for the lolz or well.... greed.
That's why you don't give anyone more than you're able to give freely and forget about. Then what they do with a gift isn't your concern.
no concern of mine what they do with a gift.
it's just that i've seen a lot of relationships where someone's being constantly drained of resources and i admit to have very little idea of the inner workings of those relationships but i can't help but be kinda disgusted. it's just a natural reflex to recoil even in.... 'perceived inequality.' some people get into relationships genuinely out of affection or sentiment. getting into one for resources is just something i look down on. i'm sorry.
Do you mean like sugar baby/daddy situations? I think it's gross. I am judgmental about that.
i was watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and there's this girl called 'Erika Jayne' who used to be a waitress in a restaurant that the wealthy Thomas Girardi would often frequent. they've got a 30+ years difference in age but he did look more youthful when they first met. and i won't pretend to know what happens in other people's relationships but can only speculate logically if i were to associate it with my own and what i've observed from others. but the way she politely asks him for things (even almost detached), made me play with the idea of how so many people possibly just got into a relationship maybe not always 'only' but 'mainly' for the resources. and that led to the question: "is it still gold digging at the 15 year mark?'
do people stay in relationships for a long time not out of affection or sentiment but simply for resources?
and how that makes one not so different from any other sex worker who offers their service for a fee.
That is such a man argument. Maybe because historically men usually had more money. I don't know how the inner workings of a relationship like that goes. I only know what it's like to work my ass off toward common goals.
my scorpio sun/cap moon co-worker commented that 'men who complain about gold diggers are complaining about something that women have been doing for many years. they don't know anything about about women so they should not be with one at all.'
i actually agree with him but then again, he uses STUFF to win women over to him. and that's where i disagree with him. he's only attracting the sort of women like his ex wife who used him for money.
Women have only been able to earn our own money for a short amount of human history. And they've only been choosing their own spouses for a relatively short period of time too. It's not like this is a trait women are born with. Each of us survives within the context we're born.
and here's the reality of it:
when a female has more resources (doesn't matter if she worked for it or was born into it) and a male with less resources go for her (and the male does not even TRY much to spend a bit), that relationship will most likely go down the dumps.
it could be his resentment due to the feeling of inadequacy or the failure to provide or her disappointment due to how she can perceive this as his 'lack of effort'"i got him an expensive membership for _____ and he can't even spend on an ice cream cone for me."
Why would she feel like that if she knows his circumstances? Why would she expect the impossible? As for the guy feeling inadequate, that's a social problem.
is anyone really too poor for an ice cream cone?
that's what i mean by 'perceived lack of effort.'
Yes that is lack of effort! Most guys want to be able to support the woman. They have trouble & get jealous when you say own property and they can’t afford it.. or buy something like a new car or a timeshare when they can’t do it. Then that causes trouble in the relationship.. their sense of inadequacy. My experience anyway.
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there should at least be some effort exerted
or someone's bound to question how genuine the whole thing is
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
There are levels of poor.
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There are levels to everything. Its all relative.
If you chose to take time off work instead of cashing in paid vaca days I don't see that person as being 'poor' myself.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
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He is self employed. I guess I will find out the full picture the more I get to know him.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPtbh biggest fake ass opportunist con artists are poor people logically
they always have some background story about struggling with drugs or some other struggle in their history and how they're now changed for the better, trying to keep themselves clean and shit
next thing you know, some poor simp's sending them cash then blocking them from all forms of communication
Is that so?
it makes more sense
Thanks for the explanation. It relieves a lot of guilt.
i know you're just sharing but some people actually use their struggles (past or current) to get ahead in life or dupe other people. and that's more likely to happen when you don't have much in life/desperate.
when you've been graced by much, that's not something you'd resort to other than for the lolz or well.... greed.
That's why you don't give anyone more than you're able to give freely and forget about. Then what they do with a gift isn't your concern.
no concern of mine what they do with a gift.
it's just that i've seen a lot of relationships where someone's being constantly drained of resources and i admit to have very little idea of the inner workings of those relationships but i can't help but be kinda disgusted. it's just a natural reflex to recoil even in.... 'perceived inequality.' some people get into relationships genuinely out of affection or sentiment. getting into one for resources is just something i look down on. i'm sorry.
Do you mean like sugar baby/daddy situations? I think it's gross. I am judgmental about that.
i was watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and there's this girl called 'Erika Jayne' who used to be a waitress in a restaurant that the wealthy Thomas Girardi would often frequent. they've got a 30+ years difference in age but he did look more youthful when they first met. and i won't pretend to know what happens in other people's relationships but can only speculate logically if i were to associate it with my own and what i've observed from others. but the way she politely asks him for things (even almost detached), made me play with the idea of how so many people possibly just got into a relationship maybe not always 'only' but 'mainly' for the resources. and that led to the question: "is it still gold digging at the 15 year mark?'
do people stay in relationships for a long time not out of affection or sentiment but simply for resources?
and how that makes one not so different from any other sex worker who offers their service for a fee.
That is such a man argument. Maybe because historically men usually had more money. I don't know how the inner workings of a relationship like that goes. I only know what it's like to work my ass off toward common goals.
my scorpio sun/cap moon co-worker commented that 'men who complain about gold diggers are complaining about something that women have been doing for many years. they don't know anything about about women so they should not be with one at all.'
i actually agree with him but then again, he uses STUFF to win women over to him. and that's where i disagree with him. he's only attracting the sort of women like his ex wife who used him for money.
Women have only been able to earn our own money for a short amount of human history. And they've only been choosing their own spouses for a relatively short period of time too. It's not like this is a trait women are born with. Each of us survives within the context we're born.
and here's the reality of it:
when a female has more resources (doesn't matter if she worked for it or was born into it) and a male with less resources go for her (and the male does not even TRY much to spend a bit), that relationship will most likely go down the dumps.
it could be his resentment due to the feeling of inadequacy or the failure to provide or her disappointment due to how she can perceive this as his 'lack of effort'"i got him an expensive membership for _____ and he can't even spend on an ice cream cone for me."
Why would she feel like that if she knows his circumstances? Why would she expect the impossible? As for the guy feeling inadequate, that's a social problem.
is anyone really too poor for an ice cream cone?
that's what i mean by 'perceived lack of effort.'
Yes that is lack of effort! Most guys want to be able to support the woman. They have trouble & get jealous when you say own property and they can’t afford it.. or buy something like a new car or a timeshare when they can’t do it. Then that causes trouble in the relationship.. their sense of inadequacy. My experience anyway.
there should at least be some effort exerted
Expending money takes no effort unless you worked for that money.
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that's an assumption
she might've worked for it for all we know
i'm talking about a guy who spends literally nothing
but maybe i just think being a miser is unattractive
Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPtbh biggest fake ass opportunist con artists are poor people logically
they always have some background story about struggling with drugs or some other struggle in their history and how they're now changed for the better, trying to keep themselves clean and shit
next thing you know, some poor simp's sending them cash then blocking them from all forms of communication
Is that so?
it makes more sense
Thanks for the explanation. It relieves a lot of guilt.
i know you're just sharing but some people actually use their struggles (past or current) to get ahead in life or dupe other people. and that's more likely to happen when you don't have much in life/desperate.
when you've been graced by much, that's not something you'd resort to other than for the lolz or well.... greed.
That's why you don't give anyone more than you're able to give freely and forget about. Then what they do with a gift isn't your concern.
no concern of mine what they do with a gift.
it's just that i've seen a lot of relationships where someone's being constantly drained of resources and i admit to have very little idea of the inner workings of those relationships but i can't help but be kinda disgusted. it's just a natural reflex to recoil even in.... 'perceived inequality.' some people get into relationships genuinely out of affection or sentiment. getting into one for resources is just something i look down on. i'm sorry.
Do you mean like sugar baby/daddy situations? I think it's gross. I am judgmental about that.
i was watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and there's this girl called 'Erika Jayne' who used to be a waitress in a restaurant that the wealthy Thomas Girardi would often frequent. they've got a 30+ years difference in age but he did look more youthful when they first met. and i won't pretend to know what happens in other people's relationships but can only speculate logically if i were to associate it with my own and what i've observed from others. but the way she politely asks him for things (even almost detached), made me play with the idea of how so many people possibly just got into a relationship maybe not always 'only' but 'mainly' for the resources. and that led to the question: "is it still gold digging at the 15 year mark?'
do people stay in relationships for a long time not out of affection or sentiment but simply for resources?
and how that makes one not so different from any other sex worker who offers their service for a fee.
That is such a man argument. Maybe because historically men usually had more money. I don't know how the inner workings of a relationship like that goes. I only know what it's like to work my ass off toward common goals.
my scorpio sun/cap moon co-worker commented that 'men who complain about gold diggers are complaining about something that women have been doing for many years. they don't know anything about about women so they should not be with one at all.'
i actually agree with him but then again, he uses STUFF to win women over to him. and that's where i disagree with him. he's only attracting the sort of women like his ex wife who used him for money.
Women have only been able to earn our own money for a short amount of human history. And they've only been choosing their own spouses for a relatively short period of time too. It's not like this is a trait women are born with. Each of us survives within the context we're born.
and here's the reality of it:
when a female has more resources (doesn't matter if she worked for it or was born into it) and a male with less resources go for her (and the male does not even TRY much to spend a bit), that relationship will most likely go down the dumps.
it could be his resentment due to the feeling of inadequacy or the failure to provide or her disappointment due to how she can perceive this as his 'lack of effort'"i got him an expensive membership for _____ and he can't even spend on an ice cream cone for me."
Why would she feel like that if she knows his circumstances? Why would she expect the impossible? As for the guy feeling inadequate, that's a social problem.
is anyone really too poor for an ice cream cone?
that's what i mean by 'perceived lack of effort.'
Yes that is lack of effort! Most guys want to be able to support the woman. They have trouble & get jealous when you say own property and they can’t afford it.. or buy something like a new car or a timeshare when they can’t do it. Then that causes trouble in the relationship.. their sense of inadequacy. My experience anyway.
there should at least be some effort exerted
or someone's bound to question how genuine the whole thing is
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Yes. This guy is making effort. That’s not the issue. The Cap got jealous & it caused problems in the relationship eventually. Not that he didn’t make any effort.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
There are levels of poor.
There are levels to everything. Its all relative.
If you chose to take time off work instead of cashing in paid vaca days I don't see that person as being 'poor' myself.
I've also seen you tell people they're poor if they're not making somewhere around $ 200K, so I really think you just like to argue. I can't bitch much about that, being an arguer myself.
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Where have I said that? Please stop pulling things out your ass and trying to shove words in my mouth I've never said.
You tend to do that I've noticed.
Your telling me I'm arguing for the sake of arguing. When you butted into my convo with the op to do just that. Ironic.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by virgoOPPPtbh biggest fake ass opportunist con artists are poor people logically
they always have some background story about struggling with drugs or some other struggle in their history and how they're now changed for the better, trying to keep themselves clean and shit
next thing you know, some poor simp's sending them cash then blocking them from all forms of communication
Is that so?
it makes more sense
Thanks for the explanation. It relieves a lot of guilt.
i know you're just sharing but some people actually use their struggles (past or current) to get ahead in life or dupe other people. and that's more likely to happen when you don't have much in life/desperate.
when you've been graced by much, that's not something you'd resort to other than for the lolz or well.... greed.
That's why you don't give anyone more than you're able to give freely and forget about. Then what they do with a gift isn't your concern.
no concern of mine what they do with a gift.
it's just that i've seen a lot of relationships where someone's being constantly drained of resources and i admit to have very little idea of the inner workings of those relationships but i can't help but be kinda disgusted. it's just a natural reflex to recoil even in.... 'perceived inequality.' some people get into relationships genuinely out of affection or sentiment. getting into one for resources is just something i look down on. i'm sorry.
Do you mean like sugar baby/daddy situations? I think it's gross. I am judgmental about that.
i was watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and there's this girl called 'Erika Jayne' who used to be a waitress in a restaurant that the wealthy Thomas Girardi would often frequent. they've got a 30+ years difference in age but he did look more youthful when they first met. and i won't pretend to know what happens in other people's relationships but can only speculate logically if i were to associate it with my own and what i've observed from others. but the way she politely asks him for things (even almost detached), made me play with the idea of how so many people possibly just got into a relationship maybe not always 'only' but 'mainly' for the resources. and that led to the question: "is it still gold digging at the 15 year mark?'
do people stay in relationships for a long time not out of affection or sentiment but simply for resources?
and how that makes one not so different from any other sex worker who offers their service for a fee.
That is such a man argument. Maybe because historically men usually had more money. I don't know how the inner workings of a relationship like that goes. I only know what it's like to work my ass off toward common goals.
my scorpio sun/cap moon co-worker commented that 'men who complain about gold diggers are complaining about something that women have been doing for many years. they don't know anything about about women so they should not be with one at all.'
i actually agree with him but then again, he uses STUFF to win women over to him. and that's where i disagree with him. he's only attracting the sort of women like his ex wife who used him for money.
Women have only been able to earn our own money for a short amount of human history. And they've only been choosing their own spouses for a relatively short period of time too. It's not like this is a trait women are born with. Each of us survives within the context we're born.
and here's the reality of it:
when a female has more resources (doesn't matter if she worked for it or was born into it) and a male with less resources go for her (and the male does not even TRY much to spend a bit), that relationship will most likely go down the dumps.
it could be his resentment due to the feeling of inadequacy or the failure to provide or her disappointment due to how she can perceive this as his 'lack of effort'"i got him an expensive membership for _____ and he can't even spend on an ice cream cone for me."
Why would she feel like that if she knows his circumstances? Why would she expect the impossible? As for the guy feeling inadequate, that's a social problem.
is anyone really too poor for an ice cream cone?
that's what i mean by 'perceived lack of effort.'
Yes that is lack of effort! Most guys want to be able to support the woman. They have trouble & get jealous when you say own property and they can’t afford it.. or buy something like a new car or a timeshare when they can’t do it. Then that causes trouble in the relationship.. their sense of inadequacy. My experience anyway.
there should at least be some effort exerted
Expending money takes no effort unless you worked for that money.
that's an assumption
she might've worked for it for all we know
i'm talking about a guy who spends literally nothing
but maybe i just think being a miser is unattractive
It seems like you just think being poor is unattractive.
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cheapassery and being a miser is unattractive
Posted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
He is self employed. I guess I will find out the full picture the more I get to know him.
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Yeah reserve judgment and see if he puts in effort.
Anyways you’ve already done the married thing so I get the vibe you’d want to keep your properties and finances separate anyways.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by but_didyoudiePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by but_didyoudiePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by but_didyoudiePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by but_didyoudielike how poor because we're all on the same boat unless in that top 10% that do horrible things...
i think all that is workable with chemistry... if there's no chemistry, they can be poor or rich, it is never going to work. like i cannot have sex just for the money.... or can i ? 😏😏😏 i know i cant.... i would cry.
If you have to ask, you haven't seen poor.
probably. i havent seen a lot of things... meow i feel bad.
No need to feel bad. I was never dirt poor, myself, just regular poor, but I witnessed it up close.
i cannot handle it...
Whatcha mean? I'm sorry I disagreed with you...again. It's really not personal. My filter got turned off this week by my period.
sorry? everyone is acting so strange to day -______- i guess im sorry bc your're on your period
Yes. I'm sorry if it seems like I have a personal vendetta and want to argue with everything you say. That is not the case with anyone here. If I ever get to the point that everything someone says triggers me, I mute them.
How many do you have muted? 😛
two
That's not too bad!
Even those two probably have interesting things to say, but it's not worth getting pissed once or twice a week.
True
I'm passed anyone pissing me off lol ... took a lot of work but worth it 🙂
Or do you hide it and make snide comments? 😉
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Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
There are levels of poor.
There are levels to everything. Its all relative.
If you chose to take time off work instead of cashing in paid vaca days I don't see that person as being 'poor' myself.
I've also seen you tell people they're poor if they're not making somewhere around $ 200K, so I really think you just like to argue. I can't bitch much about that, being an arguer myself.
Where have I said that? Please stop pulling things out your ass and trying to shove words in my mouth I've never said.
You tend to do that I've noticed.
Your telling me I'm arguing for the sake of arguing. When you butted into my convo with the op to do just that. Ironic.
My bad. I thought you talked about 200K. No, you said 20K for a boat is "chump change." So, I think you probably don't know much about poordom.
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/message/?id=12610495
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Lacking a bit of context there aren’t you?
And for the record we got it for a steal, 9k split between the 2 of us. Yes that is chump change when I spend almost that amount on rent per month. Remember our conversation on things being relative?
Anyways I find it amusing your out here judging me knowing zilch about my past. Your obviously triggered and lashing out.
So to recap, no...I never told people they are poor if they aren’t making 200k. Calm down.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
There are levels of poor.
There are levels to everything. Its all relative.
If you chose to take time off work instead of cashing in paid vaca days I don't see that person as being 'poor' myself.
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It's the exact same thing.
Posted by Black-MambaPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
There are levels of poor.
There are levels to everything. Its all relative.
If you chose to take time off work instead of cashing in paid vaca days I don't see that person as being 'poor' myself.
I've also seen you tell people they're poor if they're not making somewhere around $ 200K, so I really think you just like to argue. I can't bitch much about that, being an arguer myself.
Where have I said that? Please stop pulling things out your ass and trying to shove words in my mouth I've never said.
You tend to do that I've noticed.
Your telling me I'm arguing for the sake of arguing. When you butted into my convo with the op to do just that. Ironic.
but nobody believes me when i call this cunt out for her cunty fake ways
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I don't mind cunty behavior. I just don't like when people claim I've said something I haven't.
Who pays 9k in rent per month?
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
There are levels of poor.
There are levels to everything. Its all relative.
If you chose to take time off work instead of cashing in paid vaca days I don't see that person as being 'poor' myself.
I've also seen you tell people they're poor if they're not making somewhere around $ 200K, so I really think you just like to argue. I can't bitch much about that, being an arguer myself.
Where have I said that? Please stop pulling things out your ass and trying to shove words in my mouth I've never said.
You tend to do that I've noticed.
Your telling me I'm arguing for the sake of arguing. When you butted into my convo with the op to do just that. Ironic.
My bad. I thought you talked about 200K. No, you said 20K for a boat is "chump change." So, I think you probably don't know much about poordom.
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/message/?id=12610495
Lacking a bit of context there aren’t you?
And for the record we got it for a steal, 9k split between the 2 of us. Yes that is chump change when I spend almost that amount on rent per month. Remember our conversation on things being relative?
Anyways I find it amusing your out here judging me knowing zilch about my past. Your obviously triggered and lashing out.
So to recap, no...I never told people they are poor if they aren’t making 200k. Calm down.
I don't know why people think I have to be triggered to correct them. Clearly, I like correcting people and might as well own it. I'm just letting you know that your definition of poor isn't accurate. Poor people get vacation from work too. When I was a kid we used to drive to a camp-out site and pitch a tent. And my sister and I would take our bikes (which were bought used from a guy in our neighborhood) and ride around because they had actual paved streets there instead of the gravel we were used to.
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No point in arguing with someone.. that thinks going on vacation requires money.
What's the good in cashing in your PTOs.. if you don't have any time off to use that money?
I can take two days off... still get paid for those days.. and camp and fish for almost nothing.
"You gotta step up your hustle if you consider 20k an exorbitant amount of money. Ijs "
"20k is chump change my broke little friend."
I have several friends that are teachers. They would highly disagree with these statements.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
He is self employed. I guess I will find out the full picture the more I get to know him.
Yeah reserve judgment and see if he puts in effort.
Anyways you’ve already done the married thing so I get the vibe you’d want to keep your properties and finances separate anyways.
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Yes that is true. Especially if someone doesn’t have as much as I do. It just depends as you go forward, if at some point you chose to live together, where would you live? I’ve already gone through this with the Cap so I’m hesitant looking at it. It’s a constant problem in this area.. so it’s not just about this guy.
Posted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
He is self employed. I guess I will find out the full picture the more I get to know him.
Yeah reserve judgment and see if he puts in effort.
Anyways you’ve already done the married thing so I get the vibe you’d want to keep your properties and finances separate anyways.
Yes that is true. Especially if someone doesn’t have as much as I do. It just depends as you go forward, if at some point you chose to live together, where would you live? I’ve already gone through this with the Cap so I’m hesitant looking at it. It’s a constant problem in this area.. so it’s not just about this guy.
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I feel you. Plus your kids come first right now I'm sure. But when they are older and have families of their own its like, you don't want to put your happiness on hold forever. They wouldn't want that.
Ideally tho you could keep a property in ny as a vaca house (if I remember correctly thats where your family is) and then move in with a future SO if need be and do the bi-coastal/ long distance thing.
A big game changer will be if/when you have grandkids. You might want to remain close to the little ones. My mom is in that state of mind rn. She's contemplating moving out of state to be with my nephew.
Just cross that road when you come to it. And in the meanwhile have fun being single and exploring whats out there.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
He is self employed. I guess I will find out the full picture the more I get to know him.
Yeah reserve judgment and see if he puts in effort.
Anyways you’ve already done the married thing so I get the vibe you’d want to keep your properties and finances separate anyways.
Yes that is true. Especially if someone doesn’t have as much as I do. It just depends as you go forward, if at some point you chose to live together, where would you live? I’ve already gone through this with the Cap so I’m hesitant looking at it. It’s a constant problem in this area.. so it’s not just about this guy.
I feel you. Plus your kids come first right now I'm sure. But when they are older and have families of their own its like, you don't want to put your happiness on hold forever. They wouldn't want that.
Ideally tho you could keep a property in ny as a vaca house (if I remember correctly thats where your family is) and then move in with a future SO if need be and do the bi-coastal/ long distance thing.
A big game changer will be if/when you have grandkids. You might want to remain close to the little ones. My mom is in that state of mind rn. She's contemplating moving out of state to be with my nephew.
Just cross that road when you come to it. And in the meanwhile have fun being single and exploring whats out there.
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I’m in Southern Oregon. One option was move back to LA ( but I think that’s a no unless it was with someone) & one is to Portland/Salem area. My kids are adults now. 18 & 24 but 18 yo still lives with me.. and yes those are all considerations as I’m figuring out what life looks like going forward.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
There are levels of poor.
There are levels to everything. Its all relative.
If you chose to take time off work instead of cashing in paid vaca days I don't see that person as being 'poor' myself.
I've also seen you tell people they're poor if they're not making somewhere around $ 200K, so I really think you just like to argue. I can't bitch much about that, being an arguer myself.
Where have I said that? Please stop pulling things out your ass and trying to shove words in my mouth I've never said.
You tend to do that I've noticed.
Your telling me I'm arguing for the sake of arguing. When you butted into my convo with the op to do just that. Ironic.
My bad. I thought you talked about 200K. No, you said 20K for a boat is "chump change." So, I think you probably don't know much about poordom.
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/message/?id=12610495
Lacking a bit of context there aren’t you?
And for the record we got it for a steal, 9k split between the 2 of us. Yes that is chump change when I spend almost that amount on rent per month. Remember our conversation on things being relative?
Anyways I find it amusing your out here judging me knowing zilch about my past. Your obviously triggered and lashing out.
So to recap, no...I never told people they are poor if they aren’t making 200k. Calm down.
I don't know why people think I have to be triggered to correct them. Clearly, I like correcting people and might as well own it. I'm just letting you know that your definition of poor isn't accurate. Poor people get vacation from work too. When I was a kid we used to drive to a camp-out site and pitch a tent. And my sister and I would take our bikes (which were bought used from a guy in our neighborhood) and ride around because they had actual paved streets there instead of the gravel we were used to.
P.S. Sorry about the 200K. I remembered incorrectly, and I've now said so twice.
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Your correcting me on my perception of poordom after just arguing to me that there are 'levels of poor'. Like??
I'm calling triggered cause I caught up in the thread and you are taking offense towards sierra and others defining poor in a different way then you did. Again, calm down. Its not that serious. Peoples opinions and responses to this thread are not an assault on you personally.
Again, imo, I don't think this dude is poor. He owns his own business and can afford to take off a week to go on vacation.
Someone who is poor will work every available shift and cash in paid vacation days to keep the lights on.
In comparison to the op who owns several properties, he may be 'poorer' but he's a far off ways from being poor and it shouldn't deter her from exploring the possibilities of a relationship simply because he's in a different tax bracket then her.
Posted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
He is self employed. I guess I will find out the full picture the more I get to know him.
Yeah reserve judgment and see if he puts in effort.
Anyways you’ve already done the married thing so I get the vibe you’d want to keep your properties and finances separate anyways.
Yes that is true. Especially if someone doesn’t have as much as I do. It just depends as you go forward, if at some point you chose to live together, where would you live? I’ve already gone through this with the Cap so I’m hesitant looking at it. It’s a constant problem in this area.. so it’s not just about this guy.
I feel you. Plus your kids come first right now I'm sure. But when they are older and have families of their own its like, you don't want to put your happiness on hold forever. They wouldn't want that.
Ideally tho you could keep a property in ny as a vaca house (if I remember correctly thats where your family is) and then move in with a future SO if need be and do the bi-coastal/ long distance thing.
A big game changer will be if/when you have grandkids. You might want to remain close to the little ones. My mom is in that state of mind rn. She's contemplating moving out of state to be with my nephew.
Just cross that road when you come to it. And in the meanwhile have fun being single and exploring whats out there.
I’m in Southern Oregon. One option was move back to LA ( but I think that’s a no unless it was with someone) & one is to Portland/Salem area. My kids are adults now. 18 & 24 but 18 yo still lives with me.. and yes those are all considerations as I’m figuring out what life looks like going forward.
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Its brutal out here. Property prices are holding steady, no dip in sight.
I got a prefab seminar at the end of this month for my top choice if I was gonna develop something instead of getting a traditional mortgage.
Who knows what the future holds. Is this guy also in Oregon or does he live in cali? Cause doing the long distance thing is a bitch and a half.
Posted by Black-MambaPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
There are levels of poor.
There are levels to everything. Its all relative.
If you chose to take time off work instead of cashing in paid vaca days I don't see that person as being 'poor' myself.
I've also seen you tell people they're poor if they're not making somewhere around $ 200K, so I really think you just like to argue. I can't bitch much about that, being an arguer myself.
Where have I said that? Please stop pulling things out your ass and trying to shove words in my mouth I've never said.
You tend to do that I've noticed.
Your telling me I'm arguing for the sake of arguing. When you butted into my convo with the op to do just that. Ironic.
My bad. I thought you talked about 200K. No, you said 20K for a boat is "chump change." So, I think you probably don't know much about poordom.
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/message/?id=12610495
Lacking a bit of context there aren’t you?
And for the record we got it for a steal, 9k split between the 2 of us. Yes that is chump change when I spend almost that amount on rent per month. Remember our conversation on things being relative?
Anyways I find it amusing your out here judging me knowing zilch about my past. Your obviously triggered and lashing out.
So to recap, no...I never told people they are poor if they aren’t making 200k. Calm down.
9k for a Boat that is a freaking steal. Lucky you, but how much to dock it and upkeep?
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Its all the Gem tracking down a good deal. Put around another $ 800 or so to rebuild some of the engine but thats his hobby and why we got it for a steal.
Its a smaller speed boat so he's been just parking it in his driveway. He's already talking about selling and getting something bigger to play with, he was looking at 21' range last night. I'm just along for the ride.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
He is self employed. I guess I will find out the full picture the more I get to know him.
Yeah reserve judgment and see if he puts in effort.
Anyways you’ve already done the married thing so I get the vibe you’d want to keep your properties and finances separate anyways.
Yes that is true. Especially if someone doesn’t have as much as I do. It just depends as you go forward, if at some point you chose to live together, where would you live? I’ve already gone through this with the Cap so I’m hesitant looking at it. It’s a constant problem in this area.. so it’s not just about this guy.
I feel you. Plus your kids come first right now I'm sure. But when they are older and have families of their own its like, you don't want to put your happiness on hold forever. They wouldn't want that.
Ideally tho you could keep a property in ny as a vaca house (if I remember correctly thats where your family is) and then move in with a future SO if need be and do the bi-coastal/ long distance thing.
A big game changer will be if/when you have grandkids. You might want to remain close to the little ones. My mom is in that state of mind rn. She's contemplating moving out of state to be with my nephew.
Just cross that road when you come to it. And in the meanwhile have fun being single and exploring whats out there.
I’m in Southern Oregon. One option was move back to LA ( but I think that’s a no unless it was with someone) & one is to Portland/Salem area. My kids are adults now. 18 & 24 but 18 yo still lives with me.. and yes those are all considerations as I’m figuring out what life looks like going forward.
Its brutal out here. Property prices are holding steady, no dip in sight.
I got a prefab seminar at the end of this month for my top choice if I was gonna develop something instead of getting a traditional mortgage.
Who knows what the future holds. Is this guy also in Oregon or does he live in cali? Cause doing the long distance thing is a bitch and a half.
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He lives here. We both are from Socal though and still have ties. Btw I only have one property.
Posted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
He is self employed. I guess I will find out the full picture the more I get to know him.
Yeah reserve judgment and see if he puts in effort.
Anyways you’ve already done the married thing so I get the vibe you’d want to keep your properties and finances separate anyways.
Yes that is true. Especially if someone doesn’t have as much as I do. It just depends as you go forward, if at some point you chose to live together, where would you live? I’ve already gone through this with the Cap so I’m hesitant looking at it. It’s a constant problem in this area.. so it’s not just about this guy.
I feel you. Plus your kids come first right now I'm sure. But when they are older and have families of their own its like, you don't want to put your happiness on hold forever. They wouldn't want that.
Ideally tho you could keep a property in ny as a vaca house (if I remember correctly thats where your family is) and then move in with a future SO if need be and do the bi-coastal/ long distance thing.
A big game changer will be if/when you have grandkids. You might want to remain close to the little ones. My mom is in that state of mind rn. She's contemplating moving out of state to be with my nephew.
Just cross that road when you come to it. And in the meanwhile have fun being single and exploring whats out there.
I’m in Southern Oregon. One option was move back to LA ( but I think that’s a no unless it was with someone) & one is to Portland/Salem area. My kids are adults now. 18 & 24 but 18 yo still lives with me.. and yes those are all considerations as I’m figuring out what life looks like going forward.
Its brutal out here. Property prices are holding steady, no dip in sight.
I got a prefab seminar at the end of this month for my top choice if I was gonna develop something instead of getting a traditional mortgage.
Who knows what the future holds. Is this guy also in Oregon or does he live in cali? Cause doing the long distance thing is a bitch and a half.
He lives here. We both are from Socal though and still have ties. Btw I only have one property.
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My bad. I think I'm confusing you with someone else hence the ny thing.
Posted by Black-Mamba Seattle Median household income in Seattle, WA is $ 86,822.if you're making less than that you're poor believe me
its all relative
200k in the Bay Area is Nothing!!!
Exactly. Its all relative.
People make 100k here and will drive lyft/uber to be able to afford to have kids or get married. Cost of living is a huge factor.
But then again how you spend your money is as well. Some people dgaf about driving a new car or having a large house and prefer to retire early.
Can't judge someones wealth on what they splash cash on. Unless your the irs lol
$ 8k- $ 9k per month x 12 months = $ 96,000 - $ 108,000
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
There are levels of poor.
There are levels to everything. Its all relative.
If you chose to take time off work instead of cashing in paid vaca days I don't see that person as being 'poor' myself.
I've also seen you tell people they're poor if they're not making somewhere around $ 200K, so I really think you just like to argue. I can't bitch much about that, being an arguer myself.
Where have I said that? Please stop pulling things out your ass and trying to shove words in my mouth I've never said.
You tend to do that I've noticed.
Your telling me I'm arguing for the sake of arguing. When you butted into my convo with the op to do just that. Ironic.
My bad. I thought you talked about 200K. No, you said 20K for a boat is "chump change." So, I think you probably don't know much about poordom.
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/message/?id=12610495
Lacking a bit of context there aren’t you?
And for the record we got it for a steal, 9k split between the 2 of us. Yes that is chump change when I spend almost that amount on rent per month. Remember our conversation on things being relative?
Anyways I find it amusing your out here judging me knowing zilch about my past. Your obviously triggered and lashing out.
So to recap, no...I never told people they are poor if they aren’t making 200k. Calm down.
I don't know why people think I have to be triggered to correct them. Clearly, I like correcting people and might as well own it. I'm just letting you know that your definition of poor isn't accurate. Poor people get vacation from work too. When I was a kid we used to drive to a camp-out site and pitch a tent. And my sister and I would take our bikes (which were bought used from a guy in our neighborhood) and ride around because they had actual paved streets there instead of the gravel we were used to.
P.S. Sorry about the 200K. I remembered incorrectly, and I've now said so twice.
Your correcting me on my perception of poordom after just arguing to me that there are 'levels of poor'. Like??
I'm calling triggered cause I caught up in the thread and you are taking offense towards sierra and others defining poor in a different way then you did. Again, calm down. Its not that serious. Peoples opinions and responses to this thread are not an assault on you personally.
Again, imo, I don't think this dude is poor. He owns his own business and can afford to take off a week to go on vacation.
Someone who is poor will work every available shift and cash in paid vacation days to keep the lights on.
In comparison to the op who owns several properties, he may be 'poorer' but he's a far off ways from being poor and it shouldn't deter her from exploring the possibilities of a relationship simply because he's in a different tax bracket then her.
Okay. It's fun when non-poor people tell previously poor people what being poor is like. You don't see me telling you what it's like to live in California and work as a landscape architect.
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Hmmm you know how I grew up. Fun.
I didn't tell you shit. You inserted yourself into MY conversation.
Again making this about you.
Let me repeat myself, peoples opinions and responses to this thread are not an assault on you personally.
Posted by Black-MambaPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Black-Mamba Seattle Median household income in Seattle, WA is $ 86,822.if you're making less than that you're poor believe me
its all relative
200k in the Bay Area is Nothing!!!
Exactly. Its all relative.
People make 100k here and will drive lyft/uber to be able to afford to have kids or get married. Cost of living is a huge factor.
But then again how you spend your money is as well. Some people dgaf about driving a new car or having a large house and prefer to retire early.
Can't judge someones wealth on what they splash cash on. Unless your the irs lol
i went looking for a new apartment and they were talking about 2600 $
1700 $ for a studio
i almost died. like wtf
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Try renting a room in a house for $ 9000/month.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
He is self employed. I guess I will find out the full picture the more I get to know him.
Yeah reserve judgment and see if he puts in effort.
Anyways you’ve already done the married thing so I get the vibe you’d want to keep your properties and finances separate anyways.
Yes that is true. Especially if someone doesn’t have as much as I do. It just depends as you go forward, if at some point you chose to live together, where would you live? I’ve already gone through this with the Cap so I’m hesitant looking at it. It’s a constant problem in this area.. so it’s not just about this guy.
I feel you. Plus your kids come first right now I'm sure. But when they are older and have families of their own its like, you don't want to put your happiness on hold forever. They wouldn't want that.
Ideally tho you could keep a property in ny as a vaca house (if I remember correctly thats where your family is) and then move in with a future SO if need be and do the bi-coastal/ long distance thing.
A big game changer will be if/when you have grandkids. You might want to remain close to the little ones. My mom is in that state of mind rn. She's contemplating moving out of state to be with my nephew.
Just cross that road when you come to it. And in the meanwhile have fun being single and exploring whats out there.
I’m in Southern Oregon. One option was move back to LA ( but I think that’s a no unless it was with someone) & one is to Portland/Salem area. My kids are adults now. 18 & 24 but 18 yo still lives with me.. and yes those are all considerations as I’m figuring out what life looks like going forward.
Its brutal out here. Property prices are holding steady, no dip in sight.
I got a prefab seminar at the end of this month for my top choice if I was gonna develop something instead of getting a traditional mortgage.
Who knows what the future holds. Is this guy also in Oregon or does he live in cali? Cause doing the long distance thing is a bitch and a half.
He lives here. We both are from Socal though and still have ties. Btw I only have one property.
Have any of these responses been helpful to you? lol Does he seem to have hangups about you having more? Does he seem to want to horn in on your stuff?
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yes I guess helps to talk it through. It’s too early I just think I’m trying not to end up like it was with the Cap. Think I just need to date him & see.
Posted by Black-MambaPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Black-Mamba Seattle Median household income in Seattle, WA is $ 86,822.if you're making less than that you're poor believe me
its all relative
200k in the Bay Area is Nothing!!!
Exactly. Its all relative.
People make 100k here and will drive lyft/uber to be able to afford to have kids or get married. Cost of living is a huge factor.
But then again how you spend your money is as well. Some people dgaf about driving a new car or having a large house and prefer to retire early.
Can't judge someones wealth on what they splash cash on. Unless your the irs lol
i went looking for a new apartment and they were talking about 2600 $
1700 $ for a studio
i almost died. like wtf
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This is why I’m thinking of staying here.. my mortgage is cheap and I do decently for the area. An old coworker in LA is making $ 50k more than me, and yet I’m doing well for this area lol
Posted by Black-MambaPosted by _DazedPosted by Black-MambaPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Black-Mamba Seattle Median household income in Seattle, WA is $ 86,822.if you're making less than that you're poor believe me
its all relative
200k in the Bay Area is Nothing!!!
Exactly. Its all relative.
People make 100k here and will drive lyft/uber to be able to afford to have kids or get married. Cost of living is a huge factor.
But then again how you spend your money is as well. Some people dgaf about driving a new car or having a large house and prefer to retire early.
Can't judge someones wealth on what they splash cash on. Unless your the irs lol
i went looking for a new apartment and they were talking about 2600 $
1700 $ for a studio
i almost died. like wtf
Try renting a room in a house for $ 9000/month.
I am waiting for her to clarify
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She won't.
Posted by LadyNeptuneMoney comes and goes.
I'd rather have a ride or die by my side.
Awwww......spoken like a true Pisces!
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
He is self employed. I guess I will find out the full picture the more I get to know him.
Yeah reserve judgment and see if he puts in effort.
Anyways you’ve already done the married thing so I get the vibe you’d want to keep your properties and finances separate anyways.
Yes that is true. Especially if someone doesn’t have as much as I do. It just depends as you go forward, if at some point you chose to live together, where would you live? I’ve already gone through this with the Cap so I’m hesitant looking at it. It’s a constant problem in this area.. so it’s not just about this guy.
I feel you. Plus your kids come first right now I'm sure. But when they are older and have families of their own its like, you don't want to put your happiness on hold forever. They wouldn't want that.
Ideally tho you could keep a property in ny as a vaca house (if I remember correctly thats where your family is) and then move in with a future SO if need be and do the bi-coastal/ long distance thing.
A big game changer will be if/when you have grandkids. You might want to remain close to the little ones. My mom is in that state of mind rn. She's contemplating moving out of state to be with my nephew.
Just cross that road when you come to it. And in the meanwhile have fun being single and exploring whats out there.
I’m in Southern Oregon. One option was move back to LA ( but I think that’s a no unless it was with someone) & one is to Portland/Salem area. My kids are adults now. 18 & 24 but 18 yo still lives with me.. and yes those are all considerations as I’m figuring out what life looks like going forward.
Its brutal out here. Property prices are holding steady, no dip in sight.
I got a prefab seminar at the end of this month for my top choice if I was gonna develop something instead of getting a traditional mortgage.
Who knows what the future holds. Is this guy also in Oregon or does he live in cali? Cause doing the long distance thing is a bitch and a half.
He lives here. We both are from Socal though and still have ties. Btw I only have one property.
Have any of these responses been helpful to you? lol Does he seem to have hangups about you having more? Does he seem to want to horn in on your stuff?
yes I guess helps to talk it through. It’s too early I just think I’m trying not to end up like it was with the Cap. Think I just need to date him & see.
It really is a difficult topic. I don't blame you for giving it some thought, but yeah, probably have to let time tell.
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Yes. Ah trying not to repeat things too so it’s a lot of testing out what I’m Doing right now. I like spending time with him so I’ll continue that for now.
Posted by Black-Mamba@ladyneptune how much is rent personally for you or are you sharing that cost with others? 9k for rent? I'd move to Burbank and buy a house.
9k for the boat split between us. 4.5 each. Read my words carefully pls.
My rent is 3600. I have one roommate who i'm helping out,, he gives me $ 500 per month and pitch in on a few things around the house. I write off the rent via sf on the third bedroom/office so its well worth it.
My mortgage on this house would be high 5s/6k per month not including property tax, insurance, utilities, etc. Its still cheaper to rent here than own.
And I'm not to far from Burbank.
Posted by Black-MambaPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Black-Mamba Seattle Median household income in Seattle, WA is $ 86,822.if you're making less than that you're poor believe me
its all relative
200k in the Bay Area is Nothing!!!
Exactly. Its all relative.
People make 100k here and will drive lyft/uber to be able to afford to have kids or get married. Cost of living is a huge factor.
But then again how you spend your money is as well. Some people dgaf about driving a new car or having a large house and prefer to retire early.
Can't judge someones wealth on what they splash cash on. Unless your the irs lol
i went looking for a new apartment and they were talking about 2600 $
1700 $ for a studio
i almost died. like wtf
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Its gross.
Stay where your at and save that down payment for when the market crashes. I'm still waiting over here.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Black-Mamba@ladyneptune how much is rent personally for you or are you sharing that cost with others? 9k for rent? I'd move to Burbank and buy a house.
9k for the boat split between us. 4.5 each. Read my words carefully pls.
My rent is 3600. I have one roommate who i'm helping out,, he gives me $ 500 per month and pitch in on a few things around the house. I write off the rent via sf on the third bedroom/office so its well worth it.
My mortgage on this house would be high 5s/6k per month not including property tax, insurance, utilities, etc. Its still cheaper to rent here than own.
And I'm not to far from Burbank.
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What % is your rent of your yearly earnings?
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by PuzzlePiecesI went out with:
a Scorpio twice who I really like except yep poor & genuine. Works hard, but life style well below mine. He went on vacation & now is back. Two more dates scheduled.
If he can afford to go on vacation he isn't poor. Ijs
Chooses to live like this so he can afford things? He drove his motorcycle down to San Diego cuz he was selling it & flew back up here. And stayed a week with his buddies down there. That’s where he grew up.
Its a luxury to be able to take time off work.
There are levels of poor.
There are levels to everything. Its all relative.
If you chose to take time off work instead of cashing in paid vaca days I don't see that person as being 'poor' myself.
I've also seen you tell people they're poor if they're not making somewhere around $ 200K, so I really think you just like to argue. I can't bitch much about that, being an arguer myself.
Where have I said that? Please stop pulling things out your ass and trying to shove words in my mouth I've never said.
You tend to do that I've noticed.
Your telling me I'm arguing for the sake of arguing. When you butted into my convo with the op to do just that. Ironic.
My bad. I thought you talked about 200K. No, you said 20K for a boat is "chump change." So, I think you probably don't know much about poordom.
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/message/?id=12610495
Lacking a bit of context there aren’t you?
And for the record we got it for a steal, 9k split between the 2 of us. Yes that is chump change when I spend almost that amount on rent per month. Remember our conversation on things being relative?
Anyways I find it amusing your out here judging me knowing zilch about my past. Your obviously triggered and lashing out.
So to recap, no...I never told people they are poor if they aren’t making 200k. Calm down.
I don't know why people think I have to be triggered to correct them. Clearly, I like correcting people and might as well own it. I'm just letting you know that your definition of poor isn't accurate. Poor people get vacation from work too. When I was a kid we used to drive to a camp-out site and pitch a tent. And my sister and I would take our bikes (which were bought used from a guy in our neighborhood) and ride around because they had actual paved streets there instead of the gravel we were used to.
P.S. Sorry about the 200K. I remembered incorrectly, and I've now said so twice.
Your correcting me on my perception of poordom after just arguing to me that there are 'levels of poor'. Like??
I'm calling triggered cause I caught up in the thread and you are taking offense towards sierra and others defining poor in a different way then you did. Again, calm down. Its not that serious. Peoples opinions and responses to this thread are not an assault on you personally.
Again, imo, I don't think this dude is poor. He owns his own business and can afford to take off a week to go on vacation.
Someone who is poor will work every available shift and cash in paid vacation days to keep the lights on.
In comparison to the op who owns several properties, he may be 'poorer' but he's a far off ways from being poor and it shouldn't deter her from exploring the possibilities of a relationship simply because he's in a different tax bracket then her.
Okay. It's fun when non-poor people tell previously poor people what being poor is like. You don't see me telling you what it's like to live in California and work as a landscape architect.
Hmmm you know how I grew up. Fun.
I didn't tell you shit. You inserted yourself into MY conversation.
Again making this about you.
Let me repeat myself, peoples opinions and responses to this thread are not an assault on you personally.
I'm not speaking on my own behalf. I'm speaking up for currently poor people.
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On behalf of all poor people, thank you for your service.
Posted by Black-MambaPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Black-Mamba@ladyneptune how much is rent personally for you or are you sharing that cost with others? 9k for rent? I'd move to Burbank and buy a house.
9k for the boat split between us. 4.5 each. Read my words carefully pls.
My rent is 3600. I have one roommate who i'm helping out,, he gives me $ 500 per month and pitch in on a few things around the house. I write off the rent via sf on the third bedroom/office so its well worth it.
My mortgage on this house would be high 5s/6k per month not including property tax, insurance, utilities, etc. Its still cheaper to rent here than own.
And I'm not to far from Burbank.
that makes sense. good luck in 2020, i hope the real estate market crashes for all of us
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Same. Don't hold your breath tho
How about poor and image? My Aqua buddy has a Rolex and a $ 2000 Moncler jacket but still doesn't have any money and owes me $ 300 : D. Unless they're just starting out, they should have built themselves up. Otherwise, they're likely not ambitious/progressive enough. Past a certain age, it's hard to be poor and genuine without running into other character flaws or not being able to exercise one's will. I don't advocate for completely selling out for the money either as there are many negative unintended consequences associated with doing that, but some happy medium such as money and genuine. As someone here pointed out, you can do a lot of good with your money rather than just buying a yacht.
Posted by dilettantePosted by Nightcap-Past a certain age, it's hard to be poor and genuine without running into other character flaws
exactly what “other” character flaws does being poor entail?
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Character is closely related to personality, disposition, and temperament. Most of the people that I see that are poor past a certain age lack ambition, a work ethic, maybe talent, or are delusional in some way. They all have a story. All of us do though. I still haven't met anyone that grew up poorer than I did so I saw firsthand what people can justify by what they lack.
I’ve never fallen in love with someone who has no money. That means two things.. they’re either relatively rich or they have a job and can manage their income well. I grew up in a farming family that values money but doesn’t worship it. It’s hard to imagine falling for a guy who is just a liability in the future. Also, I can’t help but equate handling money well with a type of intelligence and I like that intelligence in men. Sun Libra, Moon Capricorn, Venus Virgo, Mars Aries
Posted by Nightcap-How about poor and image? My Aqua buddy has a Rolex and a $ 2000 Moncler jacket but still doesn't have any money and owes me $ 300 : D. Unless they're just starting out, they should have built themselves up. Otherwise, they're likely not ambitious/progressive enough. Past a certain age, it's hard to be poor and genuine without running into other character flaws or not being able to exercise one's will. I don't advocate for completely selling out for the money either as there are many negative unintended consequences associated with doing that, but some happy medium such as money and genuine. As someone here pointed out, you can do a lot of good with your money rather than just buying a yacht.
Well... as an older person I see a lot of guys not with much money after a couple of divorces and sometimes bad decisions. And this is an area where people have to survive somehow cuz job situation sucks
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and here's the reality of it:
when a female has more resources (doesn't matter if she worked for it or was born into it) and a male with less resources go for her (and the male does not even TRY much to spend a bit), that relationship will most likely go down the dumps.
it could be his resentment due to the feeling of inadequacy or the failure to provide or her disappointment due to how she can perceive this as his 'lack of effort'
"i got him an expensive membership for _____ and he can't even spend on an ice cream cone for me."