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I think people don't know what is truly coming... i am not a dem or republican... for people that wanted to blame either side they need to realize the back lash that comes and the egging and goating of different view points... with or against has turned America into a strange land. It has always been about the money in politics and I believe if people truly look they will find that even these people dem or rep. To cheat others...

I believe America and the the destabilization of the world will have lasting affects that undoubtably will lead to wars.

I personally did not vote this year but we had the worse candidates... in history. I believe that the back lash for the last 8 years will be quite harsh with all the rubbing in dems did... I think that both sides need to find some class again and hope the world in general finds some as well.

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As for not going back to the kitchen in the title suggest that woman will not go back... I think people need to also wake up... birth rates are at all time lows... not because people don't want kids but jobs available and people can't afford them...

By actually effectly adding larger numbers of people to the work force because no longer can one job make enough to take care of a family... often.

People don't seem to understand our

Country is broke and the banks have all the money Nostradamus and many other seers have predicted world depression that issues that start in Italy and will affect the rest of the world.

People have come to think America is rich when we are far more in debt then any other country about to/ is going over a demographic cliff... as the older generation got older they did not care the "boomers" as most kept there jobs and worked longer... housing prices go up and so they have money that young adults can't pay due to inflation.

When interest rates start risings like they are everything will come to a stop...

All this crap about small insults will be dropped and people will draw lines with the people they feel most confratable with... rather race, gender or sexual oeantation... both sides need to find some tolerance and realize they are not the only ones in the world.

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Posted by piscesmoon2
I think people don't know what is truly coming... i am not a dem or republican... for people that wanted to blame either side they need to realize the back lash that comes and the egging and goating of different view points... with or against has turned America into a strange land. It has always been about the money in politics and I believe if people truly look they will find that even these people dem or rep. To cheat others...

I believe America and the the destabilization of the world will have lasting affects that undoubtably will lead to wars.

I personally did not vote this year but we had the worse candidates... in history. I believe that the back lash for the last 8 years will be quite harsh with all the rubbing in dems did... I think that both sides need to find some class again and hope the world in general finds some as well.

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This isn't about sides. With a clear head, and an objective and honest view, what Meryl said was good old honest TRUTH. Nothing she said was "egging" or "goading." She spoke her truth with dignity, and her truth rings true for many.
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I'm glad she spoke out and I hope others join and continue to do so. It's a time in America's history when women need to speak out and stand up for their rights otherwise Trump and right wing Repubs will set women's rights and health back a hundred years. I don't know how he (Trump) can deny openly mocking a disabled reporter when the interview was filmed and shown on the news. He's a liar as well as a misanthropist.
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As for not going back to the kitchen in the title suggest that woman will not go back... I think people need to also wake up... birth rates are at all time lows... not because people don't want kids but jobs available and people can't afford them...

By actually effectly adding larger numbers of people to the work force because no longer can one job make enough to take care of a family... often.

People don't seem to understand our

Country is broke and the banks have all the money Nostradamus and many other seers have predicted world depression that issues that start in Italy and will affect the rest of the world.

People have come to think America is rich when we are far more in debt then any other country about to/ is going over a demographic cliff... as the older generation got older they did not care the "boomers" as most kept there jobs and worked longer... housing prices go up and so they have money that young adults can't pay due to inflation.

When interest rates start risings like they are everything will come to a stop...

All this crap about small insults will be dropped and people will draw lines with the people they feel most confratable with... rather race, gender or sexual oeantation... both sides need to find some tolerance and realize they are not the only ones in the world.

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My title was my response to those who dismiss the validity of this powerful individual, this LEADER, by telling her to "go back to the kitchen."
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I'm glad she spoke out and I hope others join and continue to do so. It's a time in America's history when women need to speak out and stand up for their rights otherwise Trump and right wing Repubs will set women's rights and health back a hundred years. I don't know how he (Trump) can deny openly mocking a disabled reporter when the interview was filmed and shown on the news. He's a liar as well as a misanthropist.
I'm the grander scheme of things, it isn't even about men versus women. The woman is the vessel from which society thrives, and most men understand that without WOMEN'S rights, there is no HUMAN rights. For the well-being of men is undeniably and inarguably linked to the security of women in our nation.
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Her speech i found insulting. We exist because of foreign people. I mean they make ridiculous amount of money, while some of that foreigners have one dollar per day, but hey, hollywood is doing a charity work for entertaining them while starving. LOL not very bright that's for sure.

Trump talked out of his ass during campaign, but his tone now is different. His wish to make amends with russia could be the best thing for the whole world. Will see.
Any celeb who uses acceptance speeches as a platform for their dipshit opinion is insulting.

Hollywood is full of delusional egomaniacs. The fact that they think their opinion has any bearing on such matters is laughable, tbh.

The sentiment can be appreciated on a basic level, but it's gotten to the point where most of it has become eyeroll worthy. Especially from an industry that backed a candidate solely because "she's a girl!" *facepalm*
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Her speech i found insulting. We exist because of foreign people. I mean they make ridiculous amount of money, while some of that foreigners have one dollar per day, but hey, hollywood is doing a charity work for entertaining them while starving. LOL not very bright that's for sure.

Trump talked out of his ass during campaign, but his tone now is different. His wish to make amends with russia could be the best thing for the whole world. Will see.
What part of her speech was "insulting"?

Did you listen to her speech? Have you noticed she not ONCE said Trump's name? Again, people need to LISTEN to her words OBJECTIVELY instead of rushing to coddle their fragile opinions lest they shatter into pieces. Come now
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Her speech i found insulting. We exist because of foreign people. I mean they make ridiculous amount of money, while some of that foreigners have one dollar per day, but hey, hollywood is doing a charity work for entertaining them while starving. LOL not very bright that's for sure.

Trump talked out of his ass during campaign, but his tone now is different. His wish to make amends with russia could be the best thing for the whole world. Will see.
Any celeb who uses acceptance speeches as a platform for their dipshit opinion is insulting.

Hollywood is full of delusional egomaniacs. The fact that they think their opinion has any bearing on such matters is laughable, tbh.

The sentiment can be appreciated on a basic level, but it's gotten to the point where most of it has become eyeroll worthy. Especially from an industry that backed a candidate solely because "she's a girl!" *facepalm*
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There is no such thing as the wrong time to speak truth. The best time to speak is when you know the world is watching. It makes complete logical sense. This is most definitely NOT the first time she speaks her truth, but most wouldn't know it because they weren't listening. This awards show is highly publicized, it was an example of another perfect time to speak. She was all class, and I have yet to read an intelligent opinion combating what she said. Instead, all I see is people reaching into another barrel to debate another topic because they have nothing to say about THIS.
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Her speech i found insulting. We exist because of foreign people. I mean they make ridiculous amount of money, while some of that foreigners have one dollar per day, but hey, hollywood is doing a charity work for entertaining them while starving. LOL not very bright that's for sure.

Trump talked out of his ass during campaign, but his tone now is different. His wish to make amends with russia could be the best thing for the whole world. Will see.
What part of her speech was "insulting"?

Did you listen to her speech? Have you noticed she not ONCE said Trump's name? Again, people need to LISTEN to her words OBJECTIVELY instead of rushing to coddle their fragile opinions lest they shatter into pieces. Come now
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Her bit about "we'll be left with football and mixed martial arts" insulted a segment of people who may/may not have paid money to watch one of her movies.

But hey, she could have even had more impact by throwing in NASCAR.

Then again, "those people" aren't typically the ones to show up at a Golden Globes event.

Her tirade was some Hollywood twit's version of:

"Basket of deplorables"

"People who bitterly cling to their guns and religion"

Too bad Leonardo DiCaprio didn't give a speech on global warming after having flown in on a private jet. That would have really made an impression.
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Lilypetal, you delusional child. Please. Grow the fuck up.

Your virginal, naive bs has gotten old meme for sure. Please stop trying to pretend you're intellectually deep. You're not. You grew up coddled and sheltered and apparently still are coddled and sheltered. You've got a long way to go since you clearly cannot grasp how the real world works.

I found nothing inspiring or moving about her speech. Just eye roll worthy because it's just yet another celeb babbling on, sounding like a clueless fuck hipster full of delusion. Did you not see the glazed over look half the audience had?

She's not stating anything that people aren't aware of. Her celebrity isn't going to change anything. All the stuff she went on about is crap we're already hearing tenfold over social media and through the press -something she acted like had some sort of power to invoke change, yet the press is one of the guiltiest parties of spreading misinformation to begin with.

Yet that is an entity she thinks will help keep things in check and get change going. el oh el.
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Her speech i found insulting. We exist because of foreign people. I mean they make ridiculous amount of money, while some of that foreigners have one dollar per day, but hey, hollywood is doing a charity work for entertaining them while starving. LOL not very bright that's for sure.

Trump talked out of his ass during campaign, but his tone now is different. His wish to make amends with russia could be the best thing for the whole world. Will see.
What part of her speech was "insulting"?

Did you listen to her speech? Have you noticed she not ONCE said Trump's name? Again, people need to LISTEN to her words OBJECTIVELY instead of rushing to coddle their fragile opinions lest they shatter into pieces. Come now

I explained it. Hollywood people should just stfu. That's my opinion. They make shitty hypocritical movies, asks a million just to get up from the bed, and her point was literally please don't shake our status because we still want to make millions and pretend we are here for the people lol.

The fact that she didn't mention his name shows nothing but passive aggressive behaviour. Or afraid of getting sued? Or acting she can't even say his name without puking. Idk. She said nothing that has any value even if she is right about him.

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@juliette And @CancerOntheCusp:

I disagree. Her speech was made more powerful by omitting Trump's name. To claim that actors should forfeit their right to free-speech due to their chosen profession is an illogical approach. It's not unlike how people tell football players to shut up and stay quiet about political issues that affect their communities because they play football. Or how the Dixie Chicks were told to "shut up and sing" and were sent death threats because they spoke out against Bush.

Her bit about being left with football and MMA was said ironically to point out that a lot of what the U.S. has to offer was created by the hearts, minds, and talents of individuals from wildly eclectic backgrounds. To miss this point, in my opinion, is to view things from a shallow standpoint.

I am still not convinced that what she said isn't truth. My only hope is that it positively inspires the thinking mind.
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I think people don't know what is truly coming... i am not a dem or republican... for people that wanted to blame either side they need to realize the back lash that comes and the egging and goating of different view points... with or against has turned America into a strange land. It has always been about the money in politics and I believe if people truly look they will find that even these people dem or rep. To cheat others...

I believe America and the the destabilization of the world will have lasting affects that undoubtably will lead to wars.

I personally did not vote this year but we had the worse candidates... in history. I believe that the back lash for the last 8 years will be quite harsh with all the rubbing in dems did... I think that both sides need to find some class again and hope the world in general finds some as well.

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This isn't about sides. With a clear head, and an objective and honest view, what Meryl said was good old honest TRUTH. Nothing she said was "egging" or "goading." She spoke her truth with dignity, and her truth rings true for many.
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So you are a progressive democrate I take it... this is where you only have one perspective. People can understand what she is getting at... birth certificate like immigrants... and so on all of it was progressive democrates... now I am not a republican but I don't think people New what they where saying that they would just move to Canadian and how stupid they sound because it takes 10 years to immigrate legally normally to ?? so by moving there people be supporting stronger imaggrations laws lol...

People are always trying to use one issues to make that a corner stone of why thing should be a way...

In the end Trump won because middle America lost coal, auto, and many other jobs... this is why not just the presidential election was lost but the house as well. In the end it was not the ideals of Trump that people agreed with but more economical policies... it is easier to get along to win votes if people can feed there families... I in no way again think Trump is a good person as far as personal values and did not vote in this election... it however was very obvious that is what happened in key states.

Read more news that is not on tv or just published in major cities most of which where progressive dem strong holds.

And FYI I consider myself

Very liberal about marriage, abortion, and other laws many conservatives hate.

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Lilypetal, you delusional child. Please. Grow the fuck up.

Your virginal, naive bs has gotten old meme for sure. Please stop trying to pretend you're intellectually deep. You're not. You grew up coddled and sheltered and apparently still are coddled and sheltered. You've got a long way to go since you clearly cannot grasp how the real world works.

I found nothing inspiring or moving about her speech. Just eye roll worthy because it's just yet another celeb babbling on, sounding like a clueless fuck hipster full of delusion. Did you not see the glazed over look half the audience had?

She's not stating anything that people aren't aware of. Her celebrity isn't going to change anything. All the stuff she went on about is crap we're already hearing tenfold over social media and through the press -something she acted like had some sort of power to invoke change, yet the press is one of the guiltiest parties of spreading misinformation to begin with.

Yet that is an entity she thinks will help keep things in check and get change going. el oh el.
That's all a matter of opinion, so I will use my wonderful liberty and disagree.

To say the audience had a "glazed over" look to try and discredit the impact of her words is setting a very weak and unconvincing argument. Because I can just as easily say they looked touched, emotional even.

The rest is personal observation and speculation about me, and has nothing to do with the topic at hand, so I will dismiss that. I'm not interested in rolling in the mud with you.

You are of the much older generation, so I am honestly not looking for you to be inspired to jump out of your seat. The people who will change this world, the YOUTH, is who matters, believe it or not. I am thankful that we have another positive voice in the media to reflect the line of thinking many of the younger generation share.

The fact that most of the posts on this thread are those trying to tear Meryl's message down, the fact that you are joining minds and hands against me - and yet, still failing to construct an unemotional, logical thought - is proof that there really is no ground for you to stand on.
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I think people don't know what is truly coming... i am not a dem or republican... for people that wanted to blame either side they need to realize the back lash that comes and the egging and goating of different view points... with or against has turned America into a strange land. It has always been about the money in politics and I believe if people truly look they will find that even these people dem or rep. To cheat others...

I believe America and the the destabilization of the world will have lasting affects that undoubtably will lead to wars.

I personally did not vote this year but we had the worse candidates... in history. I believe that the back lash for the last 8 years will be quite harsh with all the rubbing in dems did... I think that both sides need to find some class again and hope the world in general finds some as well.

PM




This isn't about sides. With a clear head, and an objective and honest view, what Meryl said was good old honest TRUTH. Nothing she said was "egging" or "goading." She spoke her truth with dignity, and her truth rings true for many.
So you are a progressive democrate I take it... this is where you only have one perspective. People can understand what she is getting at... birth certificate like immigrants... and so on all of it was progressive democrates... now I am not a republican but I don't think people New what they where saying that they would just move to Canadian and how stupid they sound because it takes 10 years to immigrate legally normally to ?? so by moving there people be supporting stronger imaggrations laws lol...

People are always trying to use one issues to make that a corner stone of why thing should be a way...

In the end Trump won because middle America lost coal, auto, and many other jobs... this is why not just the presidential election was lost but the house as well. In the end it was not the ideals of Trump that people agreed with but more economical policies... it is easier to get along to win votes if people can feed there families... I in no way again think Trump is a good person as far as personal values and did not vote in this election... it however was very obvious that is what happened in key states.

Read more news that is not on tv or just published in major cities most of which where progressive dem strong holds.

And FYI I consider myself

Very liberal about marriage, abortion, and other laws many conservatives hate.

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You stated off trying to be impartial, and you very quickly lost that facade. None of this has anything to do with Streep's message.
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I think people don't know what is truly coming... i am not a dem or republican... for people that wanted to blame either side they need to realize the back lash that comes and the egging and goating of different view points... with or against has turned America into a strange land. It has always been about the money in politics and I believe if people truly look they will find that even these people dem or rep. To cheat others...

I believe America and the the destabilization of the world will have lasting affects that undoubtably will lead to wars.

I personally did not vote this year but we had the worse candidates... in history. I believe that the back lash for the last 8 years will be quite harsh with all the rubbing in dems did... I think that both sides need to find some class again and hope the world in general finds some as well.

PM




This isn't about sides. With a clear head, and an objective and honest view, what Meryl said was good old honest TRUTH. Nothing she said was "egging" or "goading." She spoke her truth with dignity, and her truth rings true for many.
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What truth she spoke was directed to gain favor to ideas that not all would feel the same way about possibly even there... however they no better then to make a public spectical. She is obviously a registered progressive Dem... simple she does not like Trump and felt that she need to express that to the world.

I wonder if people do these things for the attention it gets them... remember they are actors? We don't see her rushing out to donated her extra millions...

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Her bit about being left with football and MMA was said ironically to point out that a lot of what the U.S. has to offer was created by the hearts, minds, and talents of individuals from wildly eclectic backgrounds. To miss this point, in my opinion, is to view things from a shallow standpoint.
Were you listening to the same speech?

She pointedly said regarding football and mma that "those aren't art". It was dismissive in tone.

The irony is that she did this speech having been awarded the Cecil B. DeMille award.

A guy who in today's Hollywood would be likely marginalized if he was lucky to make films at all.
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I think people don't know what is truly coming... i am not a dem or republican... for people that wanted to blame either side they need to realize the back lash that comes and the egging and goating of different view points... with or against has turned America into a strange land. It has always been about the money in politics and I believe if people truly look they will find that even these people dem or rep. To cheat others...

I believe America and the the destabilization of the world will have lasting affects that undoubtably will lead to wars.

I personally did not vote this year but we had the worse candidates... in history. I believe that the back lash for the last 8 years will be quite harsh with all the rubbing in dems did... I think that both sides need to find some class again and hope the world in general finds some as well.

PM




This isn't about sides. With a clear head, and an objective and honest view, what Meryl said was good old honest TRUTH. Nothing she said was "egging" or "goading." She spoke her truth with dignity, and her truth rings true for many.
What truth she spoke was directed to gain favor to ideas that not all would feel the same way about possibly even there... however they no better then to make a public spectical. She is obviously a registered progressive Dem... simple she does not like Trump and felt that she need to express that to the world.

I wonder if people do these things for the attention it gets them... remember they are actors? We don't see her rushing out to donated her extra millions...

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She doesn't need anymore attention than all her hunderd or so awards have gotten her. I'm not interested in questioning her motivation, because then all we do is get into speculating and injecting our bias. I am interested in both sharing and merely understanding her words. As for her charitable works, merely google her and you will find pently of examples of her fantastic acts of philanthropy. =P
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Her bit about being left with football and MMA was said ironically to point out that a lot of what the U.S. has to offer was created by the hearts, minds, and talents of individuals from wildly eclectic backgrounds. To miss this point, in my opinion, is to view things from a shallow standpoint.
Were you listening to the same speech?

She pointedly said regarding football and mma that "those aren't art". It was dismissive in tone.

The irony is that she did this speech having been awarded the Cecil B. DeMille award.

A guy who in today's Hollywood would be likely marginalized if he was lucky to make films at all.
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I stand by what I said. Offense at that comment is just proof that one missed the entire point. A knee-jerk reaction is to be offended, a thoughtful reaction is to understand the irony behind her comment.
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Your post makes zero sense. I would like to read some intelligent opinions that try and dispute the truth in Meryl's words.

For the president of the United States to behave that way, it's an utter DISGRACE no matter how you slice it.




Have you seen the YouTube video's of H1 falling from the sky that was being dropped into the Middle East and the shoots did not open... that is a discrace... what is even more so is that people think complaining about future president is cool... and in some way will help any situation.

If you don't understand the issues she is talking about maybe you should start looking up and reading each one she elludes to... it is easy to DJ actually does read the news and gets it... I am not even saying I am a DJ fan... or a Trump fan I would do my things different. However that is the problem when someone does something different everyone wants to poke a million holes in anything they can...

Donald Trump own the election because he brought the auto makers back to the US and is not even in office yet... if anyone actually cares to also look into it Donald Trump was actually a Democrat for a number of years... even giving to many of these people he ran against on both sides.

Again don't agree with the way he talks about woman always... however I see woman and have woman friend that are very superficial that are progressive democtates that seem to love there sugar daddies and yet party with young men... what happened in Japan and the demographics is happening in the US now...

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@DonJohn

Your post makes zero sense. I would like to read some intelligent opinions that try and dispute the truth in Meryl's words.

For the president of the United States to behave that way, it's an utter DISGRACE no matter how you slice it.




Have you seen the YouTube video's of H1 falling from the sky that was being dropped into the Middle East and the shoots did not open... that is a discrace... what is even more so is that people think complaining about future president is cool... and in some way will help any situation.

If you don't understand the issues she is talking about maybe you should start looking up and reading each one she elludes to... it is easy to DJ actually does read the news and gets it... I am not even saying I am a DJ fan... or a Trump fan I would do my things different. However that is the problem when someone does something different everyone wants to poke a million holes in anything they can...

Donald Trump own the election because he brought the auto makers back to the US and is not even in office yet... if anyone actually cares to also look into it Donald Trump was actually a Democrat for a number of years... even giving to many of these people he ran against on both sides.

Again don't agree with the way he talks about woman always... however I see woman and have woman friend that are very superficial that are progressive democtates that seem to love there sugar daddies and yet party with young men... what happened in Japan and the demographics is happening in the US now...

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I haven't seen anything from DJ, except those photos, and his point was both careless and moot. So, using him as an example is questionable. Don't get me wrong, he makes some fun threads, but rewarding him and agreeing with his...can we even call that an opinion? They are just photos.

As for the rest, I'm not sure how any of that has to do with this speech? What's sugar daddies got to do with anything? What's Democrat Vs. Republican have to do with it? That argument is so tired and old and pointless, that it is not what this thread was meant to be about.

Have you found out anything about her "giving away her millions"?
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She doesn't need anymore attention than all her hunderd or so awards have gotten her. I'm not interested in questioning her motivation, because then all we do is get into speculating and injecting our bias. I am interested in both sharing and merely understanding her words. As for her charitable works, merely google her and you will find pently of examples of her fantastic acts of philanthropy. =P
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I am going to wast my time arguing with someone that does not get it.

FYI

It is every singer and sports stare dream

To now start there own charity and say how they are such a great person... so she can have people like you whorship her like she is a god.

If people want to give then why not give more she has her millions she has after "white privilege." As progressive dem would say...

It is things like this that insite behavior like the 4 that kidnaped the guy and tourchered him for hours... people think it is cool or ok and give them an excuse... act like an adult.

Simple the speach was anit republican... wow she should be worshiped...

PM
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Her speech i found insulting. We exist because of foreign people. I mean they make ridiculous amount of money, while some of that foreigners have one dollar per day, but hey, hollywood is doing a charity work for entertaining them while starving. LOL not very bright that's for sure.

Trump talked out of his ass during campaign, but his tone now is different. His wish to make amends with russia could be the best thing for the whole world. Will see.
What part of her speech was "insulting"?

Did you listen to her speech? Have you noticed she not ONCE said Trump's name? Again, people need to LISTEN to her words OBJECTIVELY instead of rushing to coddle their fragile opinions lest they shatter into pieces. Come now

I explained it. Hollywood people should just stfu. That's my opinion. They make shitty hypocritical movies, asks a million just to get up from the bed, and her point was literally please don't shake our status because we still want to make millions and pretend we are here for the people lol.

The fact that she didn't mention his name shows nothing but passive aggressive behaviour. Or afraid of getting sued? Or acting she can't even say his name without puking. Idk. She said nothing that has any value even if she is right about him.

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+100000

I did not watch the speech so I can't comment on the content but I don't care about her political opinions or those of any other celebrity. I have my own and I find it condescending when an actor worth 100 million dollars tries to tell me how to think or how to vote.

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@DonJohn

Your post makes zero sense. I would like to read some intelligent opinions that try and dispute the truth in Meryl's words.

For the president of the United States to behave that way, it's an utter DISGRACE no matter how you slice it.




Have you seen the YouTube video's of H1 falling from the sky that was being dropped into the Middle East and the shoots did not open... that is a discrace... what is even more so is that people think complaining about future president is cool... and in some way will help any situation.

If you don't understand the issues she is talking about maybe you should start looking up and reading each one she elludes to... it is easy to DJ actually does read the news and gets it... I am not even saying I am a DJ fan... or a Trump fan I would do my things different. However that is the problem when someone does something different everyone wants to poke a million holes in anything they can...

Donald Trump own the election because he brought the auto makers back to the US and is not even in office yet... if anyone actually cares to also look into it Donald Trump was actually a Democrat for a number of years... even giving to many of these people he ran against on both sides.

Again don't agree with the way he talks about woman always... however I see woman and have woman friend that are very superficial that are progressive democtates that seem to love there sugar daddies and yet party with young men... what happened in Japan and the demographics is happening in the US now...

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I haven't seen anything from DJ, except those photos, and his point was both careless and moot. So, using him as an example is questionable. Don't get me wrong, he makes some fun threads, but rewarding him and agreeing with his...can we even call that an opinion? They are just photos.

As for the rest, I'm not sure how any of that has to do with this speech? What's sugar daddies got to do with anything? What's Democrat Vs. Republican have to do with it? That argument is so tired and old and pointless, that it is not what this thread was meant to be about.

Have you found out anything about her "giving away her millions"?
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Wait she is white privelage... right... she still had millions and people actually can pay less taxes by giving

Money away... running charities often can make things write off able and allow people to travel... much like the Trump and Clinton foundation... hey they are giving to not have to pay so much tax...

She is such a great person that she gave so much of her self and sacrificed her own comfort oh please...

Just like the news networks got a reworking doe being so left so will Hollywood. Of course her time had passed and she goes home to millions...

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@DonJohn

Your post makes zero sense. I would like to read some intelligent opinions that try and dispute the truth in Meryl's words.

For the president of the United States to behave that way, it's an utter DISGRACE no matter how you slice it.




Have you seen the YouTube video's of H1 falling from the sky that was being dropped into the Middle East and the shoots did not open... that is a discrace... what is even more so is that people think complaining about future president is cool... and in some way will help any situation.

If you don't understand the issues she is talking about maybe you should start looking up and reading each one she elludes to... it is easy to DJ actually does read the news and gets it... I am not even saying I am a DJ fan... or a Trump fan I would do my things different. However that is the problem when someone does something different everyone wants to poke a million holes in anything they can...

Donald Trump own the election because he brought the auto makers back to the US and is not even in office yet... if anyone actually cares to also look into it Donald Trump was actually a Democrat for a number of years... even giving to many of these people he ran against on both sides.

Again don't agree with the way he talks about woman always... however I see woman and have woman friend that are very superficial that are progressive democtates that seem to love there sugar daddies and yet party with young men... what happened in Japan and the demographics is happening in the US now...

PM


I haven't seen anything from DJ, except those photos, and his point was both careless and moot. So, using him as an example is questionable. Don't get me wrong, he makes some fun threads, but rewarding him and agreeing with his...can we even call that an opinion? They are just photos.

As for the rest, I'm not sure how any of that has to do with this speech? What's sugar daddies got to do with anything? What's Democrat Vs. Republican have to do with it? That argument is so tired and old and pointless, that it is not what this thread was meant to be about.

Have you found out anything about her "giving away her millions"?
Wait she is white privelage... right... she still had millions and people actually can pay less taxes by giving

Money away... running charities often can make things write off able and allow people to travel... much like the Trump and Clinton foundation... hey they are giving to not have to pay so much tax...

She is such a great person that she gave so much of her self and sacrificed her own comfort oh please...

Just like the news networks got a reworking doe being so left so will Hollywood. Of course her time had passed and she goes home to millions...

PM



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Jumping from one "issue" to the next, I see. First it was a problem that she DIDN'T give, now it is a problems that she DOES give. You are all over the place. And, in case you forgot, we just elected a WHITE ELITIST who has been a part of HOLLYWOOD as the host of his own television show. Talk about hyporisy! Come on. The fact that an individual calling for empathy, support, and freedom of the press is being so attacked is telling in and of itself. *sigh* This is no long a discussion. Your true colors are really shining through and you are blinding yourself.
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@LillyPetal no one is against you. I wasn't moved by her speech, you saw the truth and you shouldn't get so defensive. When debate dies then that's the end of everything.

Me saying stfu is just an expression. I don't have power to shut her up and if i could i wouldn't, but if i had an opportunity to tell her something i would say oh just stfu you and your followers are bunch of hypocritical asses. But because i can't lol i have to annoy you sorry 😄.
I'm not feeling very defensive, I'm merely representing my side of this argument.

I've never been a fan of dismissing someone's thoughts on poverty, merely because they themselves are rich. Or dismissing someone's thoughts on racism, merely because they share the race of the perpetuators of the racist establishment. Or turning my nose up to someone who donates to cancer treatment, merely because that person has their full health.

If you DO have a chance to meet her, I do hope you will use your opportunity to perhaps make change of your own. =P

At the end of the day, I believe the right thing to do is stand up for those without a voice. Everyone has to begin somewhere.
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Her speech i found insulting. We exist because of foreign people. I mean they make ridiculous amount of money, while some of that foreigners have one dollar per day, but hey, hollywood is doing a charity work for entertaining them while starving. LOL not very bright that's for sure.

Trump talked out of his ass during campaign, but his tone now is different. His wish to make amends with russia could be the best thing for the whole world. Will see.
What part of her speech was "insulting"?

Did you listen to her speech? Have you noticed she not ONCE said Trump's name? Again, people need to LISTEN to her words OBJECTIVELY instead of rushing to coddle their fragile opinions lest they shatter into pieces. Come now

I explained it. Hollywood people should just stfu. That's my opinion. They make shitty hypocritical movies, asks a million just to get up from the bed, and her point was literally please don't shake our status because we still want to make millions and pretend we are here for the people lol.

The fact that she didn't mention his name shows nothing but passive aggressive behaviour. Or afraid of getting sued? Or acting she can't even say his name without puking. Idk. She said nothing that has any value even if she is right about him.



+100000

I did not watch the speech so I can't comment on the content but I don't care about her political opinions or those of any other celebrity. I have my own and I find it condescending when an actor worth 100 million dollars tries to tell me how to think or how to vote.



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Why is someone expressing their beliefs threatening to you? We are CONSTANTLY being told what to think. That's nothing new. The trick is in recognizing it, and then running with what speaks to your truth.

People taking things so personally is baffling to me. She said nothing about whom to vote for, nor is she telling you "how to think." She is taking a stand for what she believes in and calling for unity.

Why should that offend you? You have your mind, you have you me spine. What's the worry, then?
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Her speech i found insulting. We exist because of foreign people. I mean they make ridiculous amount of money, while some of that foreigners have one dollar per day, but hey, hollywood is doing a charity work for entertaining them while starving. LOL not very bright that's for sure.

Trump talked out of his ass during campaign, but his tone now is different. His wish to make amends with russia could be the best thing for the whole world. Will see.
What part of her speech was "insulting"?

Did you listen to her speech? Have you noticed she not ONCE said Trump's name? Again, people need to LISTEN to her words OBJECTIVELY instead of rushing to coddle their fragile opinions lest they shatter into pieces. Come now

I explained it. Hollywood people should just stfu. That's my opinion. They make shitty hypocritical movies, asks a million just to get up from the bed, and her point was literally please don't shake our status because we still want to make millions and pretend we are here for the people lol.

The fact that she didn't mention his name shows nothing but passive aggressive behaviour. Or afraid of getting sued? Or acting she can't even say his name without puking. Idk. She said nothing that has any value even if she is right about him.



+100000

I did not watch the speech so I can't comment on the content but I don't care about her political opinions or those of any other celebrity. I have my own and I find it condescending when an actor worth 100 million dollars tries to tell me how to think or how to vote.




Why is someone expressing their beliefs threatening to you? We are CONSTANTLY being told what to think. That's nothing new. The trick is in recognizing it, and then running with what speaks to your truth.

People taking things so personally is baffling to me. She said nothing about whom to vote for, nor is she telling you "how to think." She is taking a stand for what she believes in and calling for unity.

Why should that offend you? You have your mind, you have you me spine. What's the worry, then?
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Is this message meant for me or did you hit reply on accident?

I clearly stated that I didn't even hear her speech so I couldn't comment on what she said. What part of that is me finding her threatening?

What I said is that I find CELEBS that use their status to push their political views to be CONDESCENDING. Most are so out of touch with the rest of America that they have no clue what we want or need. Her opinion means nothing to me which is why I don't watch those stupid shows.

To be fair, I don't care who designed their dress either.
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It's not unlike how people tell football players to shut up and stay quiet about political issues that affect their communities because they play football. Or how the Dixie Chicks were told to "shut up and sing" and were sent death threats because they spoke out against Bush.
Kopernick is free to talk about the issues. So are the Dixie Chicks.

But the venues they were doing it in and how they were doing it people are free to disagree with.

And they are (or were, in the case of the Dixie Chicks):

http://nypost.com/2016/10/20/anthem-protests-are-sinking-the-nfls-tv-ratings-poll-shows/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/nov/19/the-dixie-chicks-tour-is-country-music-ready-to-forgive

Rule number one of marketing: Don't shit on the customers buying your product.
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Her speech i found insulting. We exist because of foreign people. I mean they make ridiculous amount of money, while some of that foreigners have one dollar per day, but hey, hollywood is doing a charity work for entertaining them while starving. LOL not very bright that's for sure.

Trump talked out of his ass during campaign, but his tone now is different. His wish to make amends with russia could be the best thing for the whole world. Will see.
What part of her speech was "insulting"?

Did you listen to her speech? Have you noticed she not ONCE said Trump's name? Again, people need to LISTEN to her words OBJECTIVELY instead of rushing to coddle their fragile opinions lest they shatter into pieces. Come now

I explained it. Hollywood people should just stfu. That's my opinion. They make shitty hypocritical movies, asks a million just to get up from the bed, and her point was literally please don't shake our status because we still want to make millions and pretend we are here for the people lol.

The fact that she didn't mention his name shows nothing but passive aggressive behaviour. Or afraid of getting sued? Or acting she can't even say his name without puking. Idk. She said nothing that has any value even if she is right about him.



+100000

I did not watch the speech so I can't comment on the content but I don't care about her political opinions or those of any other celebrity. I have my own and I find it condescending when an actor worth 100 million dollars tries to tell me how to think or how to vote.




Why is someone expressing their beliefs threatening to you? We are CONSTANTLY being told what to think. That's nothing new. The trick is in recognizing it, and then running with what speaks to your truth.

People taking things so personally is baffling to me. She said nothing about whom to vote for, nor is she telling you "how to think." She is taking a stand for what she believes in and calling for unity.

Why should that offend you? You have your mind, you have you me spine. What's the worry, then?

Is this message meant for me or did you hit reply on accident?

I clearly stated that I didn't even hear her speech so I couldn't comment on what she said. What part of that is me finding her threatening?

What I said is that I find CELEBS that use their status to push their political views to be CONDESCENDING. Most are so out of touch with the rest of America that they have no clue what we want or need. Her opinion means nothing to me which is why I don't watch those stupid shows.

To be fair, I don't care who designed their dress either.

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My response was crafted and meant just for you.

Where is this argument that celebs are out of touch coming from? It seems the bread and butter of most who choose to dismiss the opinions of people who have a job in Hollywood. Where is the proof that they are so out of touch? Compared to whom? The people in office? The head of coroporations? Whom? In fact, many celebrities use the money they earn to aid causes that are very much IN TOUCH with real world problems.

It's like that argument that well-known individuals are out of touch has been sent out in a memo or something. We need an episode on Myth Busters on this. Heh. But, then, you didn't hear the speech.
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It's not unlike how people tell football players to shut up and stay quiet about political issues that affect their communities because they play football. Or how the Dixie Chicks were told to "shut up and sing" and were sent death threats because they spoke out against Bush.
Kopernick is free to talk about the issues. So are the Dixie Chicks.

But the venues they were doing it in and how they were doing it people are free to disagree with.

And they are (or were, in the case of the Dixie Chicks):

http://nypost.com/2016/10/20/anthem-protests-are-sinking-the-nfls-tv-ratings-poll-shows/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/nov/19/the-dixie-chicks-tour-is-country-music-ready-to-forgive

Rule number one of marketing: Don't shit on the customers buying your product.
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Exactly! Some of the celebs get a huge ego check when the people that once worshipped them start booing them.

Offending half of your fans is not the best business decision.

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It's not unlike how people tell football players to shut up and stay quiet about political issues that affect their communities because they play football. Or how the Dixie Chicks were told to "shut up and sing" and were sent death threats because they spoke out against Bush.
Kopernick is free to talk about the issues. So are the Dixie Chicks.

But the venues they were doing it in and how they were doing it people are free to disagree with.

And they are (or were, in the case of the Dixie Chicks):

http://nypost.com/2016/10/20/anthem-protests-are-sinking-the-nfls-tv-ratings-poll-shows/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/nov/19/the-dixie-chicks-tour-is-country-music-ready-to-forgive

Rule number one of marketing: Don't shit on the customers buying your product.
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If I am remembering, the fans that didn't decide to vilinaze individuals practicing their rights to free speech rallied in support of the Dixie Chicks. In fact, the Dixie Chicks went on to win a major award, too! Hooray for sticking to your principles!

Rule number two: But if it means that you are standing up for what you believe in, the truth will out, and you will survive.
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It's not unlike how people tell football players to shut up and stay quiet about political issues that affect their communities because they play football. Or how the Dixie Chicks were told to "shut up and sing" and were sent death threats because they spoke out against Bush.
Kopernick is free to talk about the issues. So are the Dixie Chicks.

But the venues they were doing it in and how they were doing it people are free to disagree with.

And they are (or were, in the case of the Dixie Chicks):

http://nypost.com/2016/10/20/anthem-protests-are-sinking-the-nfls-tv-ratings-poll-shows/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/nov/19/the-dixie-chicks-tour-is-country-music-ready-to-forgive

Rule number one of marketing: Don't shit on the customers buying your product.
Exactly! Some of the celebs get a huge ego check when the people that once worshipped them start booing them.

Offending half of your fans is not the best business decision.

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He doesn't seem affected by it. In fact, he is taking it steps further and doing WONDEROUS things for his community. Believe it or not, not every celebrity wants to be worshipped. Most are just doing their jobs. Some are who they are, and then the worshippers are sore because they idolize a person who has different beliefs than themselves. 🙂 "I worship this man but why does he have to be so BLACK and show it!"
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Her speech i found insulting. We exist because of foreign people. I mean they make ridiculous amount of money, while some of that foreigners have one dollar per day, but hey, hollywood is doing a charity work for entertaining them while starving. LOL not very bright that's for sure.

Trump talked out of his ass during campaign, but his tone now is different. His wish to make amends with russia could be the best thing for the whole world. Will see.
What part of her speech was "insulting"?

Did you listen to her speech? Have you noticed she not ONCE said Trump's name? Again, people need to LISTEN to her words OBJECTIVELY instead of rushing to coddle their fragile opinions lest they shatter into pieces. Come now

I explained it. Hollywood people should just stfu. That's my opinion. They make shitty hypocritical movies, asks a million just to get up from the bed, and her point was literally please don't shake our status because we still want to make millions and pretend we are here for the people lol.

The fact that she didn't mention his name shows nothing but passive aggressive behaviour. Or afraid of getting sued? Or acting she can't even say his name without puking. Idk. She said nothing that has any value even if she is right about him.



+100000

I did not watch the speech so I can't comment on the content but I don't care about her political opinions or those of any other celebrity. I have my own and I find it condescending when an actor worth 100 million dollars tries to tell me how to think or how to vote.




Why is someone expressing their beliefs threatening to you? We are CONSTANTLY being told what to think. That's nothing new. The trick is in recognizing it, and then running with what speaks to your truth.

People taking things so personally is baffling to me. She said nothing about whom to vote for, nor is she telling you "how to think." She is taking a stand for what she believes in and calling for unity.

Why should that offend you? You have your mind, you have you me spine. What's the worry, then?

Is this message meant for me or did you hit reply on accident?

I clearly stated that I didn't even hear her speech so I couldn't comment on what she said. What part of that is me finding her threatening?

What I said is that I find CELEBS that use their status to push their political views to be CONDESCENDING. Most are so out of touch with the rest of America that they have no clue what we want or need. Her opinion means nothing to me which is why I don't watch those stupid shows.

To be fair, I don't care who designed their dress either.


My response was crafted and meant just for you.

Where is this argument that celebs are out of touch coming from? It seems the bread and butter of most who choose to dismiss the opinions of people who have a job in Hollywood. Where is the proof that they are so out of touch? Compared to whom? The people in office? The head of coroporations? Whom? In fact, many celebrities use the money they earned to aid causes that are very much IN TOUCH with real world problems.

It's like that argument that well-known individuals are out of touch has been sent out in a memo or something. We need an episode on Myth Busters on this. Heh. But, then, you didn't hear the speech.
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dont lecture me....I voted Trump and would do it again tomorrow. We clearly won't ever agree so this debating back and forth is just like running on a hamster wheel and I have things to do.

To sum it up:

1.I don't listen or care about celebs

2.I'm that evil Trump voter so I must hate women, babies and puppies

3. It is a waste of time trying to convince me of something because I'm from the "much older" generation and clearly set in my ways.

Have a good day

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Her speech i found insulting. We exist because of foreign people. I mean they make ridiculous amount of money, while some of that foreigners have one dollar per day, but hey, hollywood is doing a charity work for entertaining them while starving. LOL not very bright that's for sure.

Trump talked out of his ass during campaign, but his tone now is different. His wish to make amends with russia could be the best thing for the whole world. Will see.
What part of her speech was "insulting"?

Did you listen to her speech? Have you noticed she not ONCE said Trump's name? Again, people need to LISTEN to her words OBJECTIVELY instead of rushing to coddle their fragile opinions lest they shatter into pieces. Come now

I explained it. Hollywood people should just stfu. That's my opinion. They make shitty hypocritical movies, asks a million just to get up from the bed, and her point was literally please don't shake our status because we still want to make millions and pretend we are here for the people lol.

The fact that she didn't mention his name shows nothing but passive aggressive behaviour. Or afraid of getting sued? Or acting she can't even say his name without puking. Idk. She said nothing that has any value even if she is right about him.



+100000

I did not watch the speech so I can't comment on the content but I don't care about her political opinions or those of any other celebrity. I have my own and I find it condescending when an actor worth 100 million dollars tries to tell me how to think or how to vote.




Why is someone expressing their beliefs threatening to you? We are CONSTANTLY being told what to think. That's nothing new. The trick is in recognizing it, and then running with what speaks to your truth.

People taking things so personally is baffling to me. She said nothing about whom to vote for, nor is she telling you "how to think." She is taking a stand for what she believes in and calling for unity.

Why should that offend you? You have your mind, you have you me spine. What's the worry, then?

Is this message meant for me or did you hit reply on accident?

I clearly stated that I didn't even hear her speech so I couldn't comment on what she said. What part of that is me finding her threatening?

What I said is that I find CELEBS that use their status to push their political views to be CONDESCENDING. Most are so out of touch with the rest of America that they have no clue what we want or need. Her opinion means nothing to me which is why I don't watch those stupid shows.

To be fair, I don't care who designed their dress either.


My response was crafted and meant just for you.

Where is this argument that celebs are out of touch coming from? It seems the bread and butter of most who choose to dismiss the opinions of people who have a job in Hollywood. Where is the proof that they are so out of touch? Compared to whom? The people in office? The head of coroporations? Whom? In fact, many celebrities use the money they earned to aid causes that are very much IN TOUCH with real world problems.

It's like that argument that well-known individuals are out of touch has been sent out in a memo or something. We need an episode on Myth Busters on this. Heh. But, then, you didn't hear the speech.
dont lecture me....I voted Trump and would do it again tomorrow. We clearly won't ever agree so this debating back and forth is just like running on a hamster wheel and I have things to do.

To sum it up:

1.I don't listen or care about celebs

2.I'm that evil Trump voter so I must hate women, babies and puppies

3. It is a waste of time trying to convince me of something because I'm from the "much older" generation and clearly set in my ways.

Have a good day

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Ahhhhh, now the colors are showing.

Indeed, the truth will out. None of those points make sense or are even relevant to this topic. You clearly just stumbled in here with zero idea or grasp on what is being discussed.

Cheers!
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Being moved by a Streep speech is no different than being moved by a Trump speech.

In the end they are still celebrities that are far removed from the day to day affairs of real life and unqualified to do anything more than pretend to be someone else in front of a camera.

Just because one validates your feelings and the other does not is irrelevant.

This is the end result of a shitty educational system. We listen to celebrities, not qualified people.

We take medical advice not from doctors or scientists with gigabytes worth of peer reviewed data, but from Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey.

These celebutards can go fuck themselves.
Doctors? One would be a fool to merely take their advice from a doctor.
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Her speech i found insulting. We exist because of foreign people. I mean they make ridiculous amount of money, while some of that foreigners have one dollar per day, but hey, hollywood is doing a charity work for entertaining them while starving. LOL not very bright that's for sure.

Trump talked out of his ass during campaign, but his tone now is different. His wish to make amends with russia could be the best thing for the whole world. Will see.
What part of her speech was "insulting"?

Did you listen to her speech? Have you noticed she not ONCE said Trump's name? Again, people need to LISTEN to her words OBJECTIVELY instead of rushing to coddle their fragile opinions lest they shatter into pieces. Come now

I explained it. Hollywood people should just stfu. That's my opinion. They make shitty hypocritical movies, asks a million just to get up from the bed, and her point was literally please don't shake our status because we still want to make millions and pretend we are here for the people lol.

The fact that she didn't mention his name shows nothing but passive aggressive behaviour. Or afraid of getting sued? Or acting she can't even say his name without puking. Idk. She said nothing that has any value even if she is right about him.



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I did not watch the speech so I can't comment on the content but I don't care about her political opinions or those of any other celebrity. I have my own and I find it condescending when an actor worth 100 million dollars tries to tell me how to think or how to vote.




Why is someone expressing their beliefs threatening to you? We are CONSTANTLY being told what to think. That's nothing new. The trick is in recognizing it, and then running with what speaks to your truth.

People taking things so personally is baffling to me. She said nothing about whom to vote for, nor is she telling you "how to think." She is taking a stand for what she believes in and calling for unity.

Why should that offend you? You have your mind, you have you me spine. What's the worry, then?

Is this message meant for me or did you hit reply on accident?

I clearly stated that I didn't even hear her speech so I couldn't comment on what she said. What part of that is me finding her threatening?

What I said is that I find CELEBS that use their status to push their political views to be CONDESCENDING. Most are so out of touch with the rest of America that they have no clue what we want or need. Her opinion means nothing to me which is why I don't watch those stupid shows.

To be fair, I don't care who designed their dress either.


My response was crafted and meant just for you.

Where is this argument that celebs are out of touch coming from? It seems the bread and butter of most who choose to dismiss the opinions of people who have a job in Hollywood. Where is the proof that they are so out of touch? Compared to whom? The people in office? The head of coroporations? Whom? In fact, many celebrities use the money they earned to aid causes that are very much IN TOUCH with real world problems.

It's like that argument that well-known individuals are out of touch has been sent out in a memo or something. We need an episode on Myth Busters on this. Heh. But, then, you didn't hear the speech.
dont lecture me....I voted Trump and would do it again tomorrow. We clearly won't ever agree so this debating back and forth is just like running on a hamster wheel and I have things to do.

To sum it up:

1.I don't listen or care about celebs

2.I'm that evil Trump voter so I must hate women, babies and puppies

3. It is a waste of time trying to convince me of something because I'm from the "much older" generation and clearly set in my ways.

Have a good day


Ahhhhh, now the colors are showing.

Indeed, the truth will out. None of those points make sense or are even relevant to this topic. You clearly just stumbled in here with zero idea or grasp on what is being discussed.

Cheers!
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My colors were never hidden. I was honest and open about my political choices from day 1. I stated my opinions and reasonings and most people respected my choice just like I respected theirs.

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Being moved by a Streep speech is no different than being moved by a Trump speech.

In the end they are still celebrities that are far removed from the day to day affairs of real life and unqualified to do anything more than pretend to be someone else in front of a camera.

Just because one validates your feelings and the other does not is irrelevant.

This is the end result of a shitty educational system. We listen to celebrities, not qualified people.

We take medical advice not from doctors or scientists with gigabytes worth of peer reviewed data, but from Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey.

These celebutards can go fuck themselves.
Yeah, the joke about "I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV".

At least this ad acknowledges and makes fun of it while pimping insurance:

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Her speech i found insulting. We exist because of foreign people. I mean they make ridiculous amount of money, while some of that foreigners have one dollar per day, but hey, hollywood is doing a charity work for entertaining them while starving. LOL not very bright that's for sure.

Trump talked out of his ass during campaign, but his tone now is different. His wish to make amends with russia could be the best thing for the whole world. Will see.
What part of her speech was "insulting"?

Did you listen to her speech? Have you noticed she not ONCE said Trump's name? Again, people need to LISTEN to her words OBJECTIVELY instead of rushing to coddle their fragile opinions lest they shatter into pieces. Come now

I explained it. Hollywood people should just stfu. That's my opinion. They make shitty hypocritical movies, asks a million just to get up from the bed, and her point was literally please don't shake our status because we still want to make millions and pretend we are here for the people lol.

The fact that she didn't mention his name shows nothing but passive aggressive behaviour. Or afraid of getting sued? Or acting she can't even say his name without puking. Idk. She said nothing that has any value even if she is right about him.



+100000

I did not watch the speech so I can't comment on the content but I don't care about her political opinions or those of any other celebrity. I have my own and I find it condescending when an actor worth 100 million dollars tries to tell me how to think or how to vote.




Why is someone expressing their beliefs threatening to you? We are CONSTANTLY being told what to think. That's nothing new. The trick is in recognizing it, and then running with what speaks to your truth.

People taking things so personally is baffling to me. She said nothing about whom to vote for, nor is she telling you "how to think." She is taking a stand for what she believes in and calling for unity.

Why should that offend you? You have your mind, you have you me spine. What's the worry, then?

Is this message meant for me or did you hit reply on accident?

I clearly stated that I didn't even hear her speech so I couldn't comment on what she said. What part of that is me finding her threatening?

What I said is that I find CELEBS that use their status to push their political views to be CONDESCENDING. Most are so out of touch with the rest of America that they have no clue what we want or need. Her opinion means nothing to me which is why I don't watch those stupid shows.

To be fair, I don't care who designed their dress either.


My response was crafted and meant just for you.

Where is this argument that celebs are out of touch coming from? It seems the bread and butter of most who choose to dismiss the opinions of people who have a job in Hollywood. Where is the proof that they are so out of touch? Compared to whom? The people in office? The head of coroporations? Whom? In fact, many celebrities use the money they earned to aid causes that are very much IN TOUCH with real world problems.

It's like that argument that well-known individuals are out of touch has been sent out in a memo or something. We need an episode on Myth Busters on this. Heh. But, then, you didn't hear the speech.
dont lecture me....I voted Trump and would do it again tomorrow. We clearly won't ever agree so this debating back and forth is just like running on a hamster wheel and I have things to do.

To sum it up:

1.I don't listen or care about celebs

2.I'm that evil Trump voter so I must hate women, babies and puppies

3. It is a waste of time trying to convince me of something because I'm from the "much older" generation and clearly set in my ways.

Have a good day


Ahhhhh, now the colors are showing.

Indeed, the truth will out. None of those points make sense or are even relevant to this topic. You clearly just stumbled in here with zero idea or grasp on what is being discussed.

Cheers!
My colors were never hidden. I was honest and open about my political choices from day 1. I stated my opinions and reasonings and most people respected my choice just like I respected theirs.

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So why the frustration? You stumbled backwards into my topic ready to disagree. Someone's expression of their beliefs somehow threatens others independed thinking. It is what it is.

Have a good day
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Being moved by a Streep speech is no different than being moved by a Trump speech.

In the end they are still celebrities that are far removed from the day to day affairs of real life and unqualified to do anything more than pretend to be someone else in front of a camera.

Just because one validates your feelings and the other does not is irrelevant.

This is the end result of a shitty educational system. We listen to celebrities, not qualified people.

We take medical advice not from doctors or scientists with gigabytes worth of peer reviewed data, but from Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey.

These celebutards can go fuck themselves.
Doctors? One would be a fool to merely take their advice from a doctor.
Thank you for proving my point.

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You're welcome. It seems we are in agreement.

So now people can calm down and realize that their heads are still very much attached to their own bodies, and a celebrity expressing that people should lend their minds in the aid of others doesn't mean that people's heads have suddenly become detached.

There is more uproar when a truth is spoken than when a lie.
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