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Being moved by a Streep speech is no different than being moved by a Trump speech.

In the end they are still celebrities that are far removed from the day to day affairs of real life and unqualified to do anything more than pretend to be someone else in front of a camera.

Just because one validates your feelings and the other does not is irrelevant.

This is the end result of a shitty educational system. We listen to celebrities, not qualified people.

We take medical advice not from doctors or scientists with gigabytes worth of peer reviewed data, but from Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey.

These celebutards can go fuck themselves.
Yeah, the joke about "I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV".

At least this ad acknowledges and makes fun of it while pimping insurance:



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No one believes Dr. Phil is a real psychologist. Red herrings everywhere to distract from the truth in her words.
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This is the far left version of ”grasping at God and Guns".

Grasping at anyone... or anything... that validates their anti-Trump feelings.
Did you hear the speech?
No, and I don't need to.



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So much for the open minded. What is with people tripping into my topic? It's like yelling "bacon" on a vegan thread. *shakes head*
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No one believes Dr. Phil is a real psychologist.
"McGraw graduated in 1975 from Midwestern State University with a B.A. in psychology. He went on to earn an M.A. in experimental psychology in 1976, and a Ph.D. degree in clinical psychology in 1979 at the University of North Texas, where his dissertation was titled "Rheumatoid Arthritis: A Psychological Intervention". McGraw was guided through the doctoral program by Frank Lawlis, who later became the primary contributing psychologist for the Dr. Phil television show.

After obtaining his doctorate, McGraw joined his father, Joe McGraw, in Wichita Falls, Texas, where the elder McGraw had established his private psychology practice."

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No one believes Dr. Phil is a real psychologist.
"McGraw graduated in 1975 from Midwestern State University with a B.A. in psychology. He went on to earn an M.A. in experimental psychology in 1976, and a Ph.D. degree in clinical psychology in 1979 at the University of North Texas, where his dissertation was titled "Rheumatoid Arthritis: A Psychological Intervention". McGraw was guided through the doctoral program by Frank Lawlis, who later became the primary contributing psychologist for the Dr. Phil television show.

After obtaining his doctorate, McGraw joined his father, Joe McGraw, in Wichita Falls, Texas, where the elder McGraw had established his private psychology practice."

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?

Are you aware of the oath psychologists follow? The fact that he "treats" his patients on TV absolutely discredits him. Ask any real-life psychologist and they will tell you he's a disgrace.

But this has nothing to do with this topic.
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Posted by LillyPetal
So much for the open minded. What is with people tripping into my topic? It's like yelling "bacon" on a vegan thread. *shakes head*


You posted it in the Miscellaneous forum obviously to get a reaction.

Well, you got reactions.

As to responding to the rest of your twaddle, forget it.

It's either feeding a troll or this (and yes, "is" should be "in"):

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So much for the open minded. What is with people tripping into my topic? It's like yelling "bacon" on a vegan thread. *shakes head*


You posted it in the Miscellaneous forum obviously to get a reaction.

Well, you got reactions.

As to responding to the rest of your twaddle, forget it.

It's either feeding a troll or this (and yes, "is" should be "in"):

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You haven't responded effectively because you can't. No one is obligated to respond to a thread. *shrug* But you tried.

I shared the video because I wanted to. I saw it and liked it a lot and thought to post it. Simple as that. It's not that complicated.
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Just because they validate your feelings don't make them true.


And just because they disagree with your own, doesn't make them untrue.

You haven't even heard the speech, so you don't even know what "truth" you speak of.
Again but I don't need to hear the speech as the content is irrelevant.

What is relevant, however, is that people who are actually qualified to speak on matters of politicians or public policy are largely ignored, but as soon as Meryl Streep recites a speech written for her by a speech writer or publicist, the country has a collective brain fart.

Based on FB posts in my feed, half the country is ready to elect Streep to be President, even though she's probably less qualified than Trump (if that's possible).

That is the issue...The American fascination with celebrities and this idea that they somehow have a clue about anything except bitching about the on-set catering and the cost of their cocaine.

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But we've elected a celebrity.

You are taking out your frustrations that you feel for your friends and the people on your feed, and you are dumping your frustrations on me.

Who said I ignore "specialists"? What is ironic about this is oftenntimes, the government makes large decisions WITHOUT consulting specialts, such as environmentists, for example. We still have people in power who deny the affects of climate change DESPITE various scientists arguing the truth. There are too many people in power who got there because they agreed to sell a lie.

There is nothing harmful about what Streep said. And the fact that you haven't listened, yet are forming all of these opinions about me, is telling,

Whatever is going on on Facebook is an environment I'm not a part of. And if people are really saying they would elect Streep, I'm sure it's said with tongue-in cheek and is meant as hyperbole to make a point.
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Lilypetal, you delusional child. Please. Grow the fuck up.

Your virginal, naive bs has gotten old meme for sure. Please stop trying to pretend you're intellectually deep. You're not. You grew up coddled and sheltered and apparently still are coddled and sheltered. You've got a long way to go since you clearly cannot grasp how the real world works.

I found nothing inspiring or moving about her speech. Just eye roll worthy because it's just yet another celeb babbling on, sounding like a clueless fuck hipster full of delusion. Did you not see the glazed over look half the audience had?

She's not stating anything that people aren't aware of. Her celebrity isn't going to change anything. All the stuff she went on about is crap we're already hearing tenfold over social media and through the press -something she acted like had some sort of power to invoke change, yet the press is one of the guiltiest parties of spreading misinformation to begin with.

Yet that is an entity she thinks will help keep things in check and get change going. el oh el.
So if she was unknown and a waitress would that have made difference to you.. personally? Who would have heard her?

Of course her words count more than those of the common man. She's a celebrity. That's the whole point. She's doing her part as a celebrity just as Trump is doing his part (making bullying and hatred acceptable)

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This is the far left version of ”grasping at God and Guns".

Grasping at anyone... or anything... that validates their anti-Trump feelings.
Did you hear the speech?
No, and I don't need to.




So much for the open minded. What is with people tripping into my topic? It's like yelling "bacon" on a vegan thread. *shakes head*



Do you read what you write? Talk about be open minded and yet you want only people who agrees with you. On public forums there are no "vegan" or "bacon" threads.

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I didn't ask for anybody. I just shared a video. *shrug*

Actually, I was thinking of opening a vegan thread because I am interested in the alternative life style to the one most of us are raised to live. Thanks for reminding me
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Dear, when are you going to grow up and start thinking with some shred of intelligence? This naive "I'm such a dipshit" schtick is getting old. Time to adult now honey. Come on now. It's about time you headed in that direction.





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You may think you are very mature and realistic because your opinions are just a negative thinking about what a "majority" supports; but intelligence or truth has nothing to do with accepting things as they are without fighting or saying things in a rude manner.

Intelligence is about knowledge and analyzing things in a non biased way.

I agree on what Meryl says, Idk if she's an egomaniac, i will never know, and i don't care. Trump has proven he's stupid, he's just a puppet of his communication agents (like [all] politics), but as Meryl says his public interventions have given many stupid ppl a validation for doing subnormal things, and that is not a joke.

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This is the far left version of ”grasping at God and Guns".

Grasping at anyone... or anything... that validates their anti-Trump feelings.
Did you hear the speech?
No, and I don't need to.




So much for the open minded. What is with people tripping into my topic? It's like yelling "bacon" on a vegan thread. *shakes head*



Do you read what you write? Talk about be open minded and yet you want only people who agrees with you. On public forums there are no "vegan" or "bacon" threads.


I didn't ask for anybody. I just shared a video. *shrug*

Actually, I was thinking of opening a vegan thread because I am interested in the alternative life style to the one most of us are raised to live. Thanks for reminding me

Good luck with that, you'll see what will happen. You're welcome 😄.
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I'm not worried. I've never been discouraged because a group of people opposed my opinions or gave thumbs up emojis to other posters in my thread.

The opposition is worth my standing up for what I believe in. *^___^*
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Dear, when are you going to grow up and start thinking with some shred of intelligence? This naive "I'm such a dipshit" schtick is getting old. Time to adult now honey. Come on now. It's about time you headed in that direction.





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You may think you are very mature and realistic because your opinions are just a negative thinking about what a "majority" supports; but intelligence or truth has nothing to do to accept things as they are without fighting or saying things in a rude manner.

Intelligence is about knowledge and analyzing things in a non biased way.

I agree on what Meryl says, Idk if she's an egomaniac, i will never know, and i don't care. Trump has proven he's stupid, he's just a puppet of his communication agents (like [all] politics), but as Meryl says his public interventions have given many stupid ppl a validation for doing subnormal things, and that is not a joke.



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As some point, negativity somehow became synonymous with truth. My guess is because lies have been known to smile in our faces.

It's an ingenious manipulation of our biases, I must admit: "People recognize lies as politically correct, so I will disguise lies in wolf's clothing so that they might incorrectly assume them to be the truth!"
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Dear, when are you going to grow up and start thinking with some shred of intelligence? This naive "I'm such a dipshit" schtick is getting old. Time to adult now honey. Come on now. It's about time you headed in that direction.





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You may think you are very mature and realistic because your opinions are just a negative thinking about what a "majority" supports; but intelligence or truth has nothing to do to accept things as they are without fighting or saying things in a rude manner.

Intelligence is about knowledge and analyzing things in a non biased way.

I agree on what Meryl says, Idk if she's an egomaniac, i will never know, and i don't care. Trump has proven he's stupid, he's just a puppet of his communication agents (like [all] politics), but as Meryl says his public interventions have given many stupid ppl a validation for doing subnormal things, and that is not a joke.




As some point, negativity somehow became synonymous with truth. My guess is because lies have been known to smile in our faces.

It's an ingenious manipulation of our biases, I must admit: "People recognize lies as politically correct, so I will disguise lies in wolf clothing so that they might incorrectly assume them to be truth!"

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So true.

When I heard about Trump, I was like: nah, how can sb trust him just because he's rud...

*a lot of ppl*: he speaks the harsh truth!!

But he's just harsh xD. Truth can be said in a harsh way, but a harsh way is not truthful per se. But for a bunch of ignorant ppl who feel they have lost their priviledges just because other colectives have increased their rights Trump is a mirror. It's easier (and ignorant) to blame others than oneself.
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Just because they validate your feelings don't make them true.


Exactly. That's all this post is. Lily is someone who goes around, inexperienced and naive as hell, but because she reads a lot of books and shit in the biased media, she's got a full grasp of what the real world is like and it's plainly obvious that she doesn't. ...which is fine to an extent, she's still learning, but the rate in which she's not moving forward from this world view is what's annoying as fuck.

That said, all this "moving" speech is, is something that validates those sheltered, out of touch viewpoints and "feelings."

We need less feeling and more actual thinking in our society.

It's highly amusing that she, and some users who captain save a hoe-d the chick, are all people who lead with feelings and not logic or factual information. Everything they believe in is garbage that validate their feelings. This is so rampant in society anymore and it's effing disgusting. "I feel" is trumping "I think" and that's just sad as fuck.

Same crap when it comes to Hollywood shooting off their ever so valued and highly educated opinions on matters in the real world. Some legitimately know their stuff, but it's a very small percentage.

In Meryl's case, I understand the sentiment, but it was delivered and stated very poorly with some really shit logic behind what she was trying to say.
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In fact, many celebrities use the money they earn to aid causes that are very much IN TOUCH with real world problems.
They are "IN TOUCH" with what you think is important. Again Trump won the election because he largely ignored the rest of American other then democratic strong holds. He pushed race conflicts... and other left democrats are now pushing to destabilize the US. The funny thing is if there was a riot... and the US was destabilized right now... Even more so with where all the money is at in stocks democrats would be the people hurt most. I think personally this is the goal of guys like George Soros... funding demonstration...

It is very interesting to see people think that raising min wage and other things will work for the whole country and don't look into area... The problem that everyone has is a basically California and New York... oh and Chicago some of the most corrupt cities out there... with more drugs and violence... then anywhere think we should do everything thing like them... California people aka Hollywood are not seeing people loose there jobs with the defunding of the coal industry, the auto industry going over seas, any type of manufacturing... These are actually Union type of jobs...

You know what California people even more so the Tech people thing... oh everyone should have tech only business. In fact tech is so great that we have now made systems for self driving semi trucks. Who cares about the 80,000 to 150,000 dollar jobs... I mean really how many truckers can there be... So lets do things our way and fire all these people to have self driving tucks so companies can make more money.

All this tech and stuff is aimed at not creating but making employees go away because of the current laws... it is not affordable to have employees. The governments answer to this is we are not going to even tax big corporations even more so all the ones that give money to us... If you look at who gave Hillary money it was nothing but big banks... she is a failure and embarrassment to not only America but to the Democratic party which has set them back to a place they have not been for over 30 years... Instead of taking responsibility for there actions... like doing a poor job with national security, corruption, and only favoring people that gave them money... It is simple the Clintons, Obama's, Bush, and any other political family becomes rich when they are in office due to the abuse of power...

Hillary was the biggest whore on the block and although I think Obama had good intentions he empowered her by making her secretary of state. People want to talk about how Trump treats woman what about Anthony W. who was married to Hillary's top aid. All the sexual miss conduct... what about Clinton and how he many woman he had sex with as he was president cheating on his wife and lied about it. Way left Democrats don't like to talk about these issues... In fact I see stuff on facebook of Obama having no scandals... What about Hillary... lol

What is even worse is the all the laws Obama passed giving the presidential office so much more power that Trump could become a dictator possibly. Who's fault is that the left for wanting such out of touch people in office... It is again the same with people that live in these state... they are out of touch because they never been or lived in mid west. Simple... What works in one part of the country man not work in another... This is why the Fed law only should go so far and State Laws are better. Even Obama himself said they did not get the mid America vote and it was largely do to the economical neglect.

Lets see now Obama spent his time mostly away from America, DC, Hawaii, and no where in middle America other thing Chicago which is named the windy city... which is actually a saying about the large amounts of corruption that goes on... This is why his home state has so many murders. The left lost touch with 75% of America... which is why again all the polling was so off.

Go read... go actually read numbers of jobs and maybe you will understand if you quite counting unemployed as people that stopped looking after 4 weeks as not looking then of course unemployment when down... Obama reclassified this like a someone in law would do... to make America look good... when we are like at a 20% unemployment rate... not only that the jobs out there suck... work fast food... labor unskilled... What most people have been doing is working jobs that often part cash... or all cash and will not pay taxes to make it... Which is of course part of the issue why we are so much debt.

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I just find it funny people are annoyed she spoke about politics, yet our future POTUS is a reality tv star. Oh the irony...lol
Oh honey, not everyone who's anti left is pro Trump.

If anything, seeing someone like Trump make it to office like he did, just further proves Hare's point. People are way too willing to vote in those who validate their own feelings.

In his case, it was a bit of that, plus the fact that people were also voting Trump because they didn't want the devil incarnate in office.

Maybe if the Dems had done it right, we all wouldn't be faced with this highly questionable individual being our country's leader. Yet, here they are, they, and their supporters, still crying because they made a piss poor decision.

...fuck they sound like some of the women who come here about their dating woes. :/
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Your post makes zero sense. I would like to read some intelligent opinions that try and dispute the truth in Meryl's words.

For the president of the United States to behave that way, it's an utter DISGRACE no matter how you slice it.


huh? this post has factual evidence of how much of a hypocrite bully she is. she basically went out of her way to clown donald trump but turns around and acts like a bigger person to tell him what he's doing is wrong when she did the exact same thing to bully. She also marginalized NFL and MMA fans with her ridiculous opinions.



"HEY YOU CAN'T MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE! ONLY I CAN!"



can you not see the facts presented in these images? Is that not Streep in a parody suit clowning on the POTUS?



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No, it does not. If we are going to use her words against her, she did draw a comparison between level of power and the capacity to defend oneself, and in this sense, Trump is not defenseless.

She's an actress, who has portrayed MANY people and characters - it part of her job. He is the president. Simple as that. Using your comparison to try and defend his behavior is most simply FALSE.
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lol. People here in Cali are very much out of touch with reality and what's going on outside of their own "me" bubble.

Hell, we have people who live in Socal who think anything east of the 710 is all farmlands and other insane shit that doesn't exist east of the 710.

When I first moved here, I had people in total awe that I'd moved from "soo far!" because their experience in life barely leaves Socal. Maybe the furthest east they'd been was Vegas.

lol @ LA being one of the most corrupt. The same city who has let DWP grip them by the balls and pays a good portion of their employees ridiculously high salaries and gouges the fuck out of residents for utilities.

The same city who now needs to take out a loan to pay for all the litigation against it for being run by dickbags.

And this is the same city who knows it's such a shit hole that for awhile, it was swooping into other cities and proclaiming it was a part of "LA" (Anaheim Angels, and Ontario Airport). The sad thing about the Airport is that LA swooped in on it, raised all the fees so airlines were forced to use LAX, and basically made ONT defunct for anything but the shipping hubs.

I wonder if the OP was aware of any of this in her uneducated ramblings and proclamations of holding some sort of legit "argument" on any of what's really going on.

I also don't think that she realizes in her argument of "celebs aid causes" that while some do go after the right causes and respectably know their shit, there are many out there who just don't know a fuck ton of anything, big picture. The last couple of notable "speeches" have been given by celebs, while their hearts are in the right places, they are the ones who are sorely uneducated or even borderline hypocritical about what they're championing.

That does NOT help causes at all, which is why most people can't take these stupid "speeches" seriously.
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Her speech i found insulting. We exist because of foreign people. I mean they make ridiculous amount of money, while some of that foreigners have one dollar per day, but hey, hollywood is doing a charity work for entertaining them while starving. LOL not very bright that's for sure.

Trump talked out of his ass during campaign, but his tone now is different. His wish to make amends with russia could be the best thing for the whole world. Will see.
Any celeb who uses acceptance speeches as a platform for their dipshit opinion is insulting.

Hollywood is full of delusional egomaniacs. The fact that they think their opinion has any bearing on such matters is laughable, tbh.

The sentiment can be appreciated on a basic level, but it's gotten to the point where most of it has become eyeroll worthy. Especially from an industry that backed a candidate solely because "she's a girl!" *facepalm*
Trump uses twitter and all other platforms for his dipshit opinions

why doesn't she have the right to her freedom of speech?
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Yet another reality evading idiot who thinks they have an argument in the matter.
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I get both sides perspective on this. Yes do not allow bullying and violence against others especially those who can't defend themselves. Of course. That's common decency as humans. On the hypocrisy side Goddess love her I really do as my hero I will point out where the fuck was she and the other liberal pearl tower celebrities the past 8 years of journalists being bullied by the federal government? Where were they when we constantly bomb so many countries? Isn't that allowing violence and bullying? They've been really quiet.

I know their hearts are in the right place but please get that bubble popped and get in the dirty bloody world with the rest of us.

That's why Vince Vaughn stared at her like she farted very loud. I'm sure Kurt and Goldie turned back a bottle on their date night looking the other way. But the elite are sheltered. Mel just looks like that anyway.

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Your post makes zero sense. I would like to read some intelligent opinions that try and dispute the truth in Meryl's words.

For the president of the United States to behave that way, it's an utter DISGRACE no matter how you slice it.


huh? this post has factual evidence of how much of a hypocrite bully she is. she basically went out of her way to clown donald trump but turns around and acts like a bigger person to tell him what he's doing is wrong when she did the exact same thing to bully. She also marginalized NFL and MMA fans with her ridiculous opinions.



"HEY YOU CAN'T MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE! ONLY I CAN!"



can you not see the facts presented in these images? Is that not Streep in a parody suit clowning on the POTUS?



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No, it does not. If we are going to use her words against her, she did draw a comparison between level of power and the capacity to defend oneself, and in this sense, Trump is not defenseless.

She's an actress, who has portrayed MANY people and characters - it part of her job. He is the president. Simple as that. Using your comparison to try and defend his behavior is most simply FALSE.




so you are making excuses for her for doing exactly what she condemns Trump for? lol you can not deconstruct this picture with any logical thought or facts.



the fact remains.

She is WORSE than Trump because she did exactly what she openly criticized Trump about and on top of that. She's being hypocritical.



Wait, let me use a word you can understand.



She's FAKE on top of being a bully. just LMAO





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Nope, I'm simply looking at it from a realistic and objective point of view, instead of an emotional point of view. The parallel is simply weak and a is simply a false one. Again, what she did is unsurprising for an actor he, on the other hand, is supposed to lead the "free world."
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I get both sides perspective on this. Yes do not allow bullying and violence against others especially those who can't defend themselves. Of course. That's common decency as humans. On the hypocrisy side Goddess love her I really do as my hero I will point out where the fuck was she and the other liberal pearl tower celebrities the past 8 years of journalists being bullied by the federal government? Where were they when we constantly bomb so many countries? Isn't that allowing violence and bullying? They've been really quiet.

I know their hearts are in the right place but please get that bubble popped and get in the dirty bloody world with the rest of us.

That's why Vince Vaughn stared at her like she farted very loud. I'm sure Kurt and Goldie turned back a bottle on their date night looking the other way. But the elite are sheltered. Mel just looks like that anyway.


*Ivory Tower

😛

That was bugging me because "Pearl Tower" sounds vaguely sexual like "Pearl Necklace"



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Corporate world we call it pearl tower but whatever the fuck you want to use if you get my point.
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Her bit about being left with football and MMA was said ironically to point out that a lot of what the U.S. has to offer was created by the hearts, minds, and talents of individuals from wildly eclectic backgrounds. To miss this point, in my opinion, is to view things from a shallow standpoint.
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I am still not convinced that what she said isn't truth. My only hope is that it positively inspires the thinking mind.
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the fact is he was still elected with all the similar knowledge people had before voting, so in what way is this going to positively inspire at this point?

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I get both sides perspective on this. Yes do not allow bullying and violence against others especially those who can't defend themselves. Of course. That's common decency as humans. On the hypocrisy side Goddess love her I really do as my hero I will point out where the fuck was she and the other liberal pearl tower celebrities the past 8 years of journalists being bullied by the federal government? Where were they when we constantly bomb so many countries? Isn't that allowing violence and bullying? They've been really quiet.

I know their hearts are in the right place but please get that bubble popped and get in the dirty bloody world with the rest of us.

That's why Vince Vaughn stared at her like she farted very loud. I'm sure Kurt and Goldie turned back a bottle on their date night looking the other way. But the elite are sheltered. Mel just looks like that anyway.


*Ivory Tower

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That was bugging me because "Pearl Tower" sounds vaguely sexual like "Pearl Necklace"






Corporate world we call it pearl tower but whatever the fuck you want to use if you get my point.


Maybe they upgraded.

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Maybe. I suggest changing it to guard tower.
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I get both sides perspective on this. Yes do not allow bullying and violence against others especially those who can't defend themselves. Of course. That's common decency as humans. On the hypocrisy side Goddess love her I really do as my hero I will point out where the fuck was she and the other liberal pearl tower celebrities the past 8 years of journalists being bullied by the federal government? Where were they when we constantly bomb so many countries? Isn't that allowing violence and bullying? They've been really quiet.

I know their hearts are in the right place but please get that bubble popped and get in the dirty bloody world with the rest of us.

That's why Vince Vaughn stared at her like she farted very loud. I'm sure Kurt and Goldie turned back a bottle on their date night looking the other way. But the elite are sheltered. Mel just looks like that anyway.


*Ivory Tower

😛

That was bugging me because "Pearl Tower" sounds vaguely sexual like "Pearl Necklace"






Corporate world we call it pearl tower but whatever the fuck you want to use if you get my point.

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Pear works though. Ivory is semi outdated and also not pc!! It's a very fitting term to use for these celebs haha.
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I get both sides perspective on this. Yes do not allow bullying and violence against others especially those who can't defend themselves. Of course. That's common decency as humans. On the hypocrisy side Goddess love her I really do as my hero I will point out where the fuck was she and the other liberal pearl tower celebrities the past 8 years of journalists being bullied by the federal government? Where were they when we constantly bomb so many countries? Isn't that allowing violence and bullying? They've been really quiet.

I know their hearts are in the right place but please get that bubble popped and get in the dirty bloody world with the rest of us.

That's why Vince Vaughn stared at her like she farted very loud. I'm sure Kurt and Goldie turned back a bottle on their date night looking the other way. But the elite are sheltered. Mel just looks like that anyway.


*Ivory Tower

😛

That was bugging me because "Pearl Tower" sounds vaguely sexual like "Pearl Necklace"






Corporate world we call it pearl tower but whatever the fuck you want to use if you get my point.


Pear works though. Ivory is semi outdated and also not pc!! It's a very fitting term to use for these celebs haha.
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This is the far left version of ”grasping at God and Guns".

Grasping at anyone... or anything... that validates their anti-Trump feelings.
Did you hear the speech?
No, and I don't need to.




So much for the open minded. What is with people tripping into my topic? It's like yelling "bacon" on a vegan thread. *shakes head*



Do you read what you write? Talk about be open minded and yet you want only people who agrees with you. On public forums there are no "vegan" or "bacon" threads.


I didn't ask for anybody. I just shared a video. *shrug*

Actually, I was thinking of opening a vegan thread because I am interested in the alternative life style to the one most of us are raised to live. Thanks for reminding me

Good luck with that, you'll see what will happen. You're welcome 😄.
I'm not worried. I've never been discouraged because a group of people opposed my opinions or gave thumbs up emojis to other posters in my thread.

The opposition is worth my standing up for what I believe in. *^___^*
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My emojis weren't directed to you to worry about in the first place.

I appreciate a good debate.
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Lilypetal, you delusional child. Please. Grow the fuck up.

Your virginal, naive bs has gotten old meme for sure. Please stop trying to pretend you're intellectually deep. You're not. You grew up coddled and sheltered and apparently still are coddled and sheltered. You've got a long way to go since you clearly cannot grasp how the real world works.

I found nothing inspiring or moving about her speech. Just eye roll worthy because it's just yet another celeb babbling on, sounding like a clueless fuck hipster full of delusion. Did you not see the glazed over look half the audience had?

She's not stating anything that people aren't aware of. Her celebrity isn't going to change anything. All the stuff she went on about is crap we're already hearing tenfold over social media and through the press -something she acted like had some sort of power to invoke change, yet the press is one of the guiltiest parties of spreading misinformation to begin with.

Yet that is an entity she thinks will help keep things in check and get change going. el oh el.
That was my problem with it!

I was like ok, yeah he's petty as hell and I'm embarrassed for the millions that voted for him too ....but he's going to be our president and your little passive aggressive speech isn't going to change that so what are you even doing ?
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Her bit about being left with football and MMA was said ironically to point out that a lot of what the U.S. has to offer was created by the hearts, minds, and talents of individuals from wildly eclectic backgrounds. To miss this point, in my opinion, is to view things from a shallow standpoint.
Were you listening to the same speech?

She pointedly said regarding football and mma that "those aren't art". It was dismissive in tone
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Yes this too
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Her bit about being left with football and MMA was said ironically to point out that a lot of what the U.S. has to offer was created by the hearts, minds, and talents of individuals from wildly eclectic backgrounds. To miss this point, in my opinion, is to view things from a shallow standpoint.
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I am still not convinced that what she said isn't truth. My only hope is that it positively inspires the thinking mind.

the fact is he was still elected with all the similar knowledge people had before voting, so in what way is this going to positively inspire at this point?

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People liked Hitler too until they learned better, the hard way. Trump is a supremacist who has no use for certain groups of peoples. This attitude is unacceptable and dangerous in a world leader as history has proved.
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Your post makes zero sense. I would like to read some intelligent opinions that try and dispute the truth in Meryl's words.

For the president of the United States to behave that way, it's an utter DISGRACE no matter how you slice it.


huh? this post has factual evidence of how much of a hypocrite bully she is. she basically went out of her way to clown donald trump but turns around and acts like a bigger person to tell him what he's doing is wrong when she did the exact same thing to bully. She also marginalized NFL and MMA fans with her ridiculous opinions.



"HEY YOU CAN'T MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE! ONLY I CAN!"



can you not see the facts presented in these images? Is that not Streep in a parody suit clowning on the POTUS?



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No, it does not. If we are going to use her words against her, she did draw a comparison between level of power and the capacity to defend oneself, and in this sense, Trump is not defenseless.

She's an actress, who has portrayed MANY people and characters - it part of her job. He is the president. Simple as that. Using your comparison to try and defend his behavior is most simply FALSE.




so you are making excuses for her for doing exactly what she condemns Trump for? lol you can not deconstruct this picture with any logical thought or facts.



the fact remains.

She is WORSE than Trump because she did exactly what she openly criticized Trump about and on top of that. She's being hypocritical.



Wait, let me use a word you can understand.



She's FAKE on top of being a bully. just LMAO





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Nope, I'm simply looking at it from a realistic and objective point of view, instead of an emotional point of view. The parallel is simply weak and a is simply a false one. Again, what she did is unsurprising for an actor he, on the other hand, is supposed to lead the "free world."




completely empty post with 0 facts and relevant logic.



i thought you were smarter. but i guess not.
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I'm not here to get your approval. I stand by what I said: you cannot compare the responsibilities of an actor to those of our president. And to use this playground psychology to try and justify his behavior...You would appear more objective if you at least TRIED to not endorse every single thing that man says and does.
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Her bit about being left with football and MMA was said ironically to point out that a lot of what the U.S. has to offer was created by the hearts, minds, and talents of individuals from wildly eclectic backgrounds. To miss this point, in my opinion, is to view things from a shallow standpoint.
agree with this part

Posted by LillyPetal
I am still not convinced that what she said isn't truth. My only hope is that it positively inspires the thinking mind.

the fact is he was still elected with all the similar knowledge people had before voting, so in what way is this going to positively inspire at this point?

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The power of the people does not end at the election if the president. We, the people, need to remember the responsibility we hold over our media and ourselves. In my opinion, it's never "tired" to remind people of the truth, no matter how frequently sone act against it. "What's the point?" has infrequently been my attitude.
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Everyone is so triggery these days. On both sides.

The next 4 years are going to be like a screaming match between petulant children.

When are the parents going to step in when they've had enough?
Agreed. This thread is, for the most part, decent conversation. The ones that are trying to reduce it to name-calling know who they are. I am trying my best to not get distracted by it. All in all, I'm pretty pleased with the participation in this thread. ^___^

If there is one thing I'm taking away from this is this: I hope to hold myself to the same standard we seem to hold celebrities. After all, if we can ask Streep "where have you been?" I believe we should, and are obligated, to all ask ourselves the same question.

On another note, I took my cat to the vet today. She isn't doing very well. There is a man with his dog who isn't doing well. In the lobby, a moment ago, there was the spectacle of a "dirty hippy" and a "red-neck gun lover" offering each other support and consolation. This is what it's about.
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I just find it funny people are annoyed she spoke about politics, yet our future POTUS is a reality tv star. Oh the irony...lol
Oh honey, not everyone who's anti left is pro Trump.

If anything, seeing someone like Trump make it to office like he did, just further proves Hare's point. People are way too willing to vote in those who validate their own feelings.

In his case, it was a bit of that, plus the fact that people were also voting Trump because they didn't want the devil incarnate in office.

Maybe if the Dems had done it right, we all wouldn't be faced with this highly questionable individual being our country's leader. Yet, here they are, they, and their supporters, still crying because they made a piss poor decision.

...fuck they sound like some of the women who come here about their dating woes. :/
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Everyone is making assumptions. For example, it is being assumed that I'm a Hillary supporter merely because I appreciate and agree with Streep's message.
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On another note, I took my cat to the vet today. She isn't doing very well. There is a man with his dog who isn't doing well. In the lobby, a moment ago, there was the spectacle of a "dirty hippy" and a "red-neck gun lover" offering each other support and consolation. This is what it's about.
It really is.

Sounds like hippy-you and the gun-lover are light years beyond Ms Streep

and whomever her Red-State counterpart may be, tomorrow.











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I completely agree LillyPetal. I too very much enjoyed Meryl Streep's speech particularly that last part when she quoted Carrie Fisher and said she once told her "take your broken heart, make it into art"…What a lovely quote.

Her being a celebrity does not negate the fact that before anything she's a human being, one who casts her vote like every other American and therefore she is as entitled as any of us to voice her opinions and political views, to think otherwise is completely hypocritical. Her using her platform as an actress of her stature is nothing but commendable in my opinion. It's so disappointing to witness celebrities and other public figures stay silent in the midst of injustice when they know the magnitude of their influence yet choose not to utilize it to make positive changes, it's shameful really. Good for Meryl for not just wanting to be remembered as a pretty face on a screen but as the whole person she is complete with opinions and ideas like everyone else.
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You explained things perfectly.
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On another note, I took my cat to the vet today. She isn't doing very well. There is a man with his dog who isn't doing well. In the lobby, a moment ago, there was the spectacle of a "dirty hippy" and a "red-neck gun lover" offering each other support and consolation. This is what it's about.
It really is.

Sounds like hippy-you and the gun-lover are light years beyond Ms Streep

and whomever her Red-State counterpart may be, tomorrow.











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My favorite thing is to have my presumptions dashed. It's amazing how often I realize that my opinions of others aren't even my own. Like, I see someone and I have thoughts about them without realizing they aren't my thoughts, but the thoughts placed there by the images, songs, news, and other type of media bias that we are bombarded with daily. It's my favorite thing to learn, hey, this camouflage laden man with the "weird" southern accent and American flag baseball cap doesn't hate me and I don't hate him.

Holding onto our humanity will not be easy. But the fight will be worth it.
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On another note, I took my cat to the vet today. She isn't doing very well. There is a man with his dog who isn't doing well. In the lobby, a moment ago, there was the spectacle of a "dirty hippy" and a "red-neck gun lover" offering each other support and consolation. This is what it's about.
It really is.

Sounds like hippy-you and the gun-lover are light years beyond Ms Streep

and whomever her Red-State counterpart may be, tomorrow.












My favorite thing is to have my presumptions dashed. It's amazing how often I realize that my opinions of others aren't even my own. Like, I see someone and I have thoughts about them without realizing they aren't my thoughts, but the thoughts placed there by the images, songs, news, and other type of media bias that we are bombarded with daily. It's my favorite thing to learn, hey, this camouflage laden man with the "weird" southern accent and American flag baseball cap doesn't hate me and I don't hate him.

Holding onto our humanity will not be easy. But the fight will be worth it.
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I like that way of looking at it.

I agree.