@natural25
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Posted by BikerCh1ck
That's true. It does annoy me too. I never lied to a person like this. I think it is kinda cruel.
I have seen though lots of girls doing that. I have no idea why. I guess if you don't do this you can't really understand the way of thinking.
I dont get it! At the end of the day, not only should we not want to see our friends hurt by some loser, but we should also not want them to burn our ears off with the trifflin play by play because they decided to deal with the idiot! It's a lose , lose situation for everyone involved!
Posted by Poisson
Ahh, Kim K's water-retaining, pregnant-ass, feet. gross.
lmao! i had to.... its the evil scorp in me... what can i say..?
frankly, i just dont like her.... ha!
Posted by SUT3point0
Women give the worst advice thats why women usually ask men
but some ask their single dumb a $ $ friends. wait a minute... im single. but you get my point. lol.
Posted by SUT3point0
Men are wired to try and fix problems. Women are wired to state problems.So going to women for advice= coming out thinking about more problems than you went in with.
but they dont even state problems. i wish they would!!! they will tell a woman to get into a problematic situation with a man or into a too little dress like the situation is void of issue and the dress looks hot! smh.
Posted by kalin
They are just *not* real friends. I think those women have low self-esteem and are just afraid if they tell the truth they will lose the friendship.
which is a pity. i get so mad for my friends when they get hurt. i couldnt imagine telling them something i dont believe myself.
Well now let's be fair....
If a woman's friend went around telling her the hurtful truth all the time, she'd be considered a "Hater." People would call her jealous or bitter.
All her future boyfriends would hate their girlfriends having a friend like that.
I mean let's be honest...wouldn't you start believing your friend was jealous, bitter or a hater if she downed all of your outfit choices (when she should), downed all the potential guys you're talking about (even if she should) & never really seemed to say anything positive or uplifting?
Be real.
There's no such thing as people would 100% appreciate someone who was brutally honest with them 24-7 especially if the truth was always something negative!
Posted by Poisson
You ever been to a club/lounge/bar and go to the bathroom and a couple of girl friends are are talking to each other through the stall, giving each other shit advice? I personally think it's funny.
lol. smh!! most of the time i just hope they are drunk talking.
Posted by krysrenee7
Well now let's be fair....If a woman's friend went around telling her the hurtful truth all the time, she'd be considered a "Hater." People would call her jealous or bitter.
All her future boyfriends would hate their girlfriends having a friend like that.
I mean let's be honest...wouldn't you start believing your friend was jealous, bitter or a hater if she downed all of your outfit choices (when she should), downed all the potential guys you're talking about (even if she should) & never really seemed to say anything positive or uplifting?
Be real.
There's no such thing as people would 100% appreciate someone who was brutally honest with them 24-7 especially if the truth was always something negative!
i am referring to blatant in your face situations! lol.
riddle me this.... would you let you friend walk out the house with her feet looking like the pic in the original post— remember, shes going out with YOU! would you tell a woman to continuously call a guy who is clearly playing her like a game of backgammon—
im not saying that we as friends should be harsh and ALWAYS have something negative to say. but there are times where you have to be honest!
sometimes you have to call a spade a spade!
Posted by thebiggcarlos12345678910
damn that foot 😄. a hugh turn off for my likings.
thats the illustrious and philosophical kim kardashian. lol
ok... now im just hating. ha!
BikerCh1ck - right. delivery is everything!
Posted by natural25
sometimes you have to call a spade a spade!That's true! If your best friends don't tell you then who is going to tell you?
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roger that
Drama + Ego + Ignorance?
Personally, I have never felt propelled to fuel a friend's delusion. If they ask me, I would put a disclaimer and warn them, if they accept, I will tell them what is occurring, the happenings as they are. Sure, some may despise me, some may hate me forever, but those who have stayed in the end, our friendships only bonded even further, closer. When you wish for me to be real and honest, then you will get my brutal and harsh take, tough love is cruel, perhaps, but it was hardly ever done unwarranted, it was asked of me. Besides, this would be a great chance for I to see whom are my true friends, a filter of sorts, to see which friendships could endure and test the tides that may come crashing against it. What better way to sort out a situation, a win-win 🙂
i lightly sprinkle the truth with some sugar.
i'm in sales... you figure out how to let someone down with the good news of other options, or why they are better off.
Posted by chopstickcharmer
what? they're just trying to give people confidence and support.
There is a great big difference between confidence and support, as compared to knowingly pushing them into a delusional hell hole that was blatant from onset, then what you shared becomes nothing more than a mock up excuse.
In fact this would be a betrayal of sorts. What right does a friend have, to withhold the truth, because they know what is best for their friend better than they do themselves? That is entirely condescending, one should always lay the cards on the table, if one truly loves their friend and let them choose, to decide for themselves.
That is called respect, respect for them as an individual, who have their own thoughts, own choices, own decisions and trust that they will find what is best for themselves with the information at hand to arm themselves with (which you have given them, to help them on this journey).
+300000 the lady scorpio
Posted by chopstickcharmer
lmfao@ delusional hell hole lady scorps... touchy subject eyy? 😛i dunno i'm more into the can do attitude. who is to say my buddy can't get a girl? that's so hard to assess. and some guys need to be hounded like dog the bounty hunter. they're called taurus men!
Very simple course of action.
If a friend went up to me, asking for my opinion, my take and even despite having given my disclaimer, requests my point of view still, then that is what I will give her, straight up honesty. They ask, I give, warranted.
If a friend does nothing, never coming up to me for any opinions and otherwise, then I shall keep my trap shut, not my business, therefore I shall keep my head out of it. Why? We hold responsibility for the things we do and say, as they affect others. If unwarranted, one should never pry, respect their privacy, because if everything fails, can one hold up the burden, knowing one contributed its demise? No.
Of course, the exception being a friend that is clearly going through something that is dangerous, not safe, and unhealthy. THEN, in such circumstances, one would intervene because one does not want their friend in any dangerously compromising situations but that is an extreme possibility.
chopstickcharmer - Hmm, my dear bull. That is hardly the case, more of a mere frustration at the utter idiocy and audacity which certain individuals go through from time to time, having to witness such cases, drives me bonkers.
i usually talk to woman about personal problems and for advice because they seem more helpful and emotional. guess ill stop with that shit.
What do you say when your friend tries on a dress and she doesn't look great in it—
The best I've come up with is...What do you think about it? If you say No, not good...then you have to give reason why?? Awkward!
Posted by westside
i usually talk to woman about personal problems and for advice because they seem more helpful and emotional. guess ill stop with that shit.
actually.... i think women are more inclined to be truthful with a male friend, unless they want to date him.
Posted by chopstickcharmer
lmfao@ delusional hell hole lady scorps... touchy subject eyy? 😛i dunno i'm more into the can do attitude. who is to say my buddy can't get a girl? that's so hard to assess. and some guys need to be hounded like dog the bounty hunter. they're called taurus men!
my point is if you see your friend is setting themselves up for disappointment, saying something opposed to watching them crash and burn. if a friend asks your opinion, and you feel they are not looking at the situation logically, kindly sharing your honest opinion.
isnt that a friends responsibility to be honest with one another? why lie?
Posted by sweethearts
What do you say when your friend tries on a dress and she doesn't look great in it—The best I've come up with is...What do you think about it? If you say No, not good...then you have to give reason why?? Awkward!
i say, "what are your other options? let me see everything."
Posted by westside
i usually talk to woman about personal problems and for advice because they seem more helpful and emotional. guess ill stop with that shit.If you want actual solutions talk to your boys.
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SUT!
Posted by westside
i usually talk to woman about personal problems and for advice because they seem more helpful and emotional. guess ill stop with that shit.If you want actual solutions talk to your boys.
SUT!
you called?
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lol. some women do give males good advice. like for example. lol!
let me be your manager **twista voice**
Posted by westside
i usually talk to woman about personal problems and for advice because they seem more helpful and emotional. guess ill stop with that shit.If you want actual solutions talk to your boys.
SUT!
you called?
lol. some women do give males good advice. like for example. lol!
oh youre giving me advice?
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ask and its yours. advice.
Posted by natural25
let me be your manager **twista voice**yeah that job is a good gig.
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i have a lot of employers showing interest. **kanye shrug**
sut - what would you like my input on?
Posted by natural25
let me be your manager **twista voice**yeah that job is a good gig.
i have a lot of employers showing interest. **kanye shrug**
Im the best boss though
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until you met me.
Posted by BikerCh1ck
@chopstickcharmer
would you though say to your mate that a woman was playing him? or would you tell him that his gut feeling was just wrong?i might but that's never stopped any of them. we're mostly all rats. do our own thing. not much drama.
i'm thinking about my other friend i went to college with. we were only 2 that went to business school. my friends told me one time that i should give him more confidence. i didn't notice he had women problems. he was such a cool guy but he was an aqua and he would be classified as perhaps someone too nice, a nice guy/ gentleman. i knew him as someone that randomly hit people in bars lol! so i've always been in that mindset that i should build my friends up.
i also have another buddy like that but he's always been that way. it's not a bad energy. he'd give me numbers. say he knows them. but in truth barely. so when i'd call i'd be scrambling for shit to say coz i thought they were good friends lol! it's bombed more times than they were a hit but i'm used to getting stuck like that going up to women saying cringe worthy lines. 😛
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lol. i think this applies more to women more than it does men. im sure if you saw your boy making a fool of himself you wouldnt have a problem letting him know.
Posted by natural25
sut - what would you like my input on?The best way to get you to visit the east coast😛
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hmmm... thats a toughie... more than likely, giving me a legit reason.. that would be the first step.
Posted by natural25
let me be your manager **twista voice**yeah that job is a good gig.
i have a lot of employers showing interest. **kanye shrug**
Im the best boss though
until you met me.
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trust. they dont make em' like this in jersey....
your faces do not take the place of reality... i can guarantee it. lol.
you have no idea. in fact..you actually might be making that face. lol. joking...
you wouldnt get that privilege that easily. but anyhoo. yea.. you have no idea.
sober up? who's drunk?
Posted by natural25
sober up? who's drunk?you right? or nah
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ummm im sober. why would you think otherwise? tonight is a school night!! lol.
Posted by natural25
sober up? who's drunk?you right? or nah
ummm im sober. why would you think otherwise? tonight is a school night!! lol.
hmmmmm............................................
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?
getting drunk on school nights, getting their phd?
Posted by natural25
getting drunk on school nights, getting their phd?GED
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therein lies the problem. lol.
Posted by natural25
getting drunk on school nights, getting their phd?GED
therein lies the problem. lol.
GED PHD its all the same
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riiiiiiiight....
Posted by SUT3point0
Women give the worst advice thats why women usually ask men
Truth.
I may ask some female friends for advice because I always like to hear all angles, but after hearing what comes out of their mouth, I may not bother asking them again.
That said, when I want to know why guys are doing what they're doing, I ask guys.
Guys - "He's an asshole trying to get laid."
Women- "Oh, he has issues. Maybe this and that grey area bullshit."
Recently, I had two dumb bitches try to tell me that relationships make you happier. They were stumped when I told them that you have to be happy alone and to rely on a relationship to make you happy made you a weak person setting yourself up for disaster. el oh el.
Take home message- a lot of girls are dumb as a bag of hammers with this stuff. What do you expect when some treat Disney movies as the bible of relationships?
Posted by kalin
They are just *not* real friends. I think those women have low self-esteem and are just afraid if they tell the truth they will lose the friendship.
Society is breeding people who are afraid of looking "bad" even in the realm of being honest.
"Oh, I don't want to hurt their feelings/look bad."
Well you're a selfish asshole! They're doing something that's not beneficial to them and you'd look a whole lot better by looking out and saying "hey don't do that."
Posted by natural25
getting drunk on school nights, getting their phd?GED
therein lies the problem. lol.
GED PHD its all the same
riiiiiiiight....
LOL I be bustin your chops
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do you really? i didnt notice. although, i think thats what you want to do.
Posted by tiziani
I don't think women are that bad. A lot of them have a lot of male energy and can get things done.A lot of it boils down to ego. Relationships are messy and people are going to make mistakes. They very nature of relationships advice is to be interfering and retarded, since it comes from a textbook, idealistic place.
sometimes things need to be interfered. particularly, if the person ask for advice.
Posted by SUT3point0
Women give the worst advice thats why women usually ask menTruth.
I may ask some female friends for advice because I always like to hear all angles, but after hearing what comes out of their mouth, I may not bother asking them again.
That said, when I want to know why guys are doing what they're doing, I ask guys.
Guys - "He's an asshole trying to get laid."
Women- "Oh, he has issues. Maybe this and that grey area bullshit."
Recently, I had two dumb bitches try to tell me that relationships make you happier. They were stumped when I told them that you have to be happy alone and to rely on a relationship to make you happy made you a weak person setting yourself up for disaster. el oh el.
Take home message- a lot of girls are dumb as a bag of hammers with this stuff. What do you expect when some treat Disney movies as the bible of relationships?
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Right! It seems like some women like to make excuses and sugar coat reality. Being a real friend, in my opinion, is being able to be honest with your friend, so that they can be happy in the long run.
Posted by cunninglinguist
You know why this happens? Because too many women don't even WANT to hear the truth. They want their friends to tell them what they want to hear. If you tell them the blunt truth, you'll be ousted from their BFF Sobbing Circle.
agreed.
Posted by seraph
The best advice is to not seek any when you already have the answers but are fishing for alternatives because you are looking for a specific (often ill-conceived) outcome for which you want permission/validation.Folks often know exactly what they need to do, or else recognize the solution intuitively, but they're looking for the answers they want rather than the ones they need.
Other times they want to just talk it out or it's some form of other genuine exchange from which the seeker will actually benefit. Sometimes the differences are subtle, however, so I find its best to approach each question on its own merits.
i agree. this happened last night. i was talking to a scorpio friend (completely aggressive and nuts when it comes to men) and she was sharing with me that a psychic told her she should contact a man she used to date who told her NOT to EVER contact him again. of course, she asks for my opinion. i said, if it were me, i would not contact him. i explained to her my rationale - he took a while to come to this decision, it does not appear that he made the decision out of emotion. it appeared he was very grounded in his decision, and i dont think my pride would allow me to contact a man after they have told me not to. furthermore, that lacks a respect for him and his requests. she became upset and started listing the reasons why she should contact him. thats when it became apparent to me that she was not looking for honest and objective advice, she was looking for one more person to tell her to give into the urge she was feeling, already knowing it was a bad idea.
If someone isn't ready for the advice that you so honestly want to give, you might lose the friendship.
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Why?
Why do some women tell their friends to pursue a man who is clearly not interested!?
"No girl, he's just a little intimidated by you. Call him again!"
Umm negative Seymour! If a man wants to date a woman, he will! And in the event he happens to think he is not on her level, let him be! Why be with someone you have to chase down like Dog the Bounty Hunter!?!? Tell Mr. Shy Guy to kick rocks with bobby socks.
"You look awesome in that dress!"
Knowing she looks like a busted can of biscuits...
I hate to be mean... Truly its not in my nature. Lol. But damn! Why do some women insist on lying to their friends!? Are they purposely sabotaging their friend. Misery loves company?
Tell the truth and shame the devil!!!