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Hilarious. People saying Al Sharpton is the most racist person when he's :

-Never killed a white person

-Never locked up a white person for smoking meth

-never,never never did a whole lot of shit that white people do daily.

Minds are warped

Racism is a system and a verb not just a psycho-social thing.



Unfortunately racism is just a tool used to keep the country arguing about non-sense and a diversion from whats really going on around us.

Al Sharpton is the black communities worst enemy. Keeping you all shrowded in hate and resentment, while he walks away with a pocket full of money.

Its all about Al nothing more nothing less.
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I'm sorry Sut but you have been brainwahsed to live in the past and harbor hate and resentment, the very thing that your forefathers did not do in order to overcome tierny and enslavement you are now officially bound and tied once again.



Lol no you have been brainwashed. You're not aware of Racism 3.0. You think since lynchings are over racism isn't fully alive and well. Political correctness helps to mask it even further.

Were living in the present. We just saw a black woman use SYG as a defense to a WARNING SHOT. and get 20 years. A college educated, productiverr citizen. Mean while Drug abuser, child molester and wife Beater George Zimmerman KILLS a human being and walks.
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Everyone needs a patsy, someone to blame. Its your life live it the way you wish and believe what you want.

Sorry but all that you are speaking of, is counter productive.
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Yes, Sharptons is not just the white mans puppet(using your words)but the black peoples patsy. He is everybodies bitch, all in the name of the almighty dollar.

Enslavement comes in many forms.



Black people dont follow him though. He is the annointed black spokesman by white people. Black people never gave him a artitle or anything
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Oh there are plenty of people in the black community that support Sharptons crusade.
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Well if history serves me correctly the Hebrews didn't get any reparations for their years of bondage. Neither did the Catholics during the Roman Empire, niether did the the Irish and Scotts.

If you are waiting for something, then you are wasting precious time.

You need to study more. You're clearly not hip to world events.
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I know my history. G2G

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Yes, Sharptons is not just the white mans puppet(using your words)but the black peoples patsy. He is everybodies bitch, all in the name of the almighty dollar.

Enslavement comes in many forms.



Black people dont follow him though. He is the annointed black spokesman by white people. Black people never gave him a artitle or anything



Oh there are plenty of people in the black community that support Sharptons crusade.


yea a bunch, as in a handful. Do all white support Rush Limbaugh?


This is racism again. White people tend to think black people are some homogenous mass of plasma. That in itself is racism.
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WTF? dude, you got some hang ups, nothing to do with white people, it's all you. Maybe you need to study more and get out of your own head.
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Sut your assumption that ALL white people think ALL black people are plasma this or that is basing a weak argument. Your essentially doing what you claim white people are doing.
Honestly why even have a debate about a case where no one really knows what the facts are in the first place. No one saw what happened so how can any of us judge?
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It's because of Florida's ridiculous " Stand Your Ground" law... All you have to do is " feel threatened" by someone and you can get away with murder! The jurors asked for a refresher on what exactly was/is manslaughter and this case did not meet what they felt the law considers such! And to think the poor woman in Florida who fired a warming shot at her EX is going to prison- crazy crazy!!!



Oh my-- you may want to read up on Florida's "stand your ground" law, as well as the legal definition of manslaughter.


After that, have a look here: Marissa Alexander

That article gives a detailed breakdown of why Alexander was not exonerated, fully acknowledging her husband's history of domestic abuse.

And hers.


If you think she fired a warning shot into the ceiling, then you're wrong.


"Gray and his sons fled the home and immediately called 911. Alexander stayed in the home and never called 911."



People who are in fear for their lives typically call 911-- and it's rare that they would continue to visit the would be killer after such an incident.

But Alexander visited several times, against court order, and got herself a domestic battery charge in the process for giving Gray a black eye.


Funny, no one seems to give a shit about the two kids who had a gun fired at them-- they could have been killed.

Nor do people seem to care about finding out all the facts of the story-- they seem content to be fed whatever it is that the media deems fit for their consumption.

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Sut your assumption that ALL white people think ALL black people are plasma this or that is basing a weak argument. Your essentially doing what you claim white people are doing.
Honestly why even have a debate about a case where no one really knows what the facts are in the first place. No one saw what happened so how can any of us judge?



What we can deduce is that the case was handled completely wrong from the jump. Which it was.
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Exactly....read between the line.
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Sut your assumption that ALL white people think ALL black people are plasma this or that is basing a weak argument. Your essentially doing what you claim white people are doing.
Honestly why even have a debate about a case where no one really knows what the facts are in the first place. No one saw what happened so how can any of us judge?



"Your essentially doing what you claim white people are doing."

yup. How does it feel?
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Sut you can think what you like man.

I don't like this case anymore than you do. I think it's a raw deal all the way around. I don't know for sure what happened and neither do you or anyone other than those two. And that's about all I have to say about it.
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There's are numerous old adages, proverbs and wisdom that applies to everyone
regardless of age, gender, race, nationality, class, education, abilities and disabilities,
(astrological positions and speculation defining those positions), etc., etc., etc. - basically
anyone and everyone.

1. Treat others the way you want to be treated. - Jesus Christ
2. Two wrongs don't make a right. Let alone, a million wrongs trying to make a right. - Common Sense
3. Pride first, Destruction second - humble yourself, or fall. - Proverbs
4. In Darkness, Never throw a fist— at a stranger.
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Based on my previous post, above, Let's ALL adhere and apply MLK's wisdom to this specific event:
Judge a man by the content of his character and NOT the color of his skin.

To be fair and impartial, We must first do TWO things:
1) recognize and understand that there is "emotional thinking" and there is "rational thinking"
and both are two entirely different psychological activities.

2) Forget, politics, forget about the color of skin, (and age) and simply view this from the perspective of each man's character.

If we are going to judge George Zimmerman's character, we MUST judge Trayvon Martin, also.
Again, to be fair and impartial, we must judge a man by the content of his character and NOT
the color of his skin.

Approach this case with the CHARACTER of BOTH MEN. Notice I did NOT use the word "CHILD"?
Why? Trayvon was NOT a helpless little baby boy as the term "CHILD" is sought imply. That's a fact.

George Zimmerman was clearly labeled, on the witness stand as "Soft", meaning TWO things: weakness and cowardness.
Which was CLEARLY acknowledged and supplementally exaggerated by the Prosecutor in the form of
"Mr. Softie" and "Mr. Stay Puft":
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Is it possible that this is not a racial thing, that it is actually linked with gun control thing? That the verdict has a purpose to protect the current situation with guns? If he was found guilty, than something will have to be changed -> the boy would still be alive if the guns weren't allowed. idk, I'm from Europe so I might be completely wrong, but this is how it looks like to me.



Not necessarily. Zimmerman could easily have been unarmed and reverse the odds against him. Consumed
by rage, fear, survival instincts, he could have turned the odds in his own favor. - Again note the word "could" - war is a game of chance. Offensive, counteroffensive, fighting and leveraging for the high ground. IF the mind is wholly consumed by such, in hand to hand combat, mercy is nowhere to be found.

As soon as everyone can rationally and impartially approach the subject of war on the 1 to 1 level,
with a clear experienced and academic mind, setting aside all else, calm as a student at a Military Academy. Comprehending the scenario which Zimmerman confronted, becomes more apparent.
Listen to this US Judge Advocate General's Corps (JAG Corps) (Military Prosecutor) Alexis Carter
provide his testimony.
In brief.
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Posted by aurora
Is it possible that this is not a racial thing, that it is actually linked with gun control thing? That the verdict has a purpose to protect the current situation with guns? If he was found guilty, than something will have to be changed -> the boy would still be alive if the guns weren't allowed. idk, I'm from Europe so I might be completely wrong, but this is how it looks like to me.



I hear you... but no one wants to go there, weird.
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According to Sanford PD Chief Bill Lee, they did not have substantial evidence
and would have arrested Zimmerman without probable cause which would have violated the 4th amendment to the Constitution. A right guaranteed to all Americans.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

"A common definition is "a reasonable amount of suspicion, supported by circumstances sufficiently strong to justify a prudent and cautious person's belief that certain facts are probably true"."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probable_cause<BR>
This is very key to both arguments for and against Zimmerman.
According SPD Chief Lee, they didn't have probable cause. One fact that substantiate's Lee's
assertion is that phone call wherein he is in contact with SPD dispatch who gave no indication
that he thought Zimmerman was doing something wrong other than "we don't need you to do that" BUT
continued the conversation, thereafter. - Zimmerman had apparently already established a positive
rapport with SPD, (previous calls). To some extent, SPD apparently saw Zimmerman in a positive light.
However, Civil Rights Atty may have thought that that rapport implied "favoritism" thus "racism", with
total disregard for the facts, present. Meaning, a complete misunderstanding and MASSIVE f*ckup on
the Civil Rights Atty, NAACP's part. - It's a very REAL possibility and for lack of calm and rational
approach, emotions stirred up by a perceived slight had been irresponsibly, wrecklessly, artificially injected into society by the NAACP, The Major News Media, including quite possibly the State, Angela Cory, Federal Government up to, and including, the DOJ, Eric Holder, and President of the United States.
All because someone "thought", without thinking, and spoke too soon.
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He looks whiter than GZ? lol

You look at his features and see caucasoid? really? LOL



Yea. GZ looks straight up Hispanic to me. Not white. This YouTube guy looks like he's 3/4 white, 1/4 black...at most. Which I'd round out to being classified as "white", if one must choose between white and black.



hispanic isn't a race though George zimmerman is a white/indian man

Guy in the video is dominican, with negroid features and brillo hair, despite being pale.
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"Indian Man"—?

Since you're going to make a rascist fashion statement, it may interest you to know:


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George Zimmerman's family lives in fear after 'enormous amount of death threats' following verdict
Robert and Gladys Zimmerman say relatives, the chief of police in Sanford, Fla., and defense attorneys have all been targets following the acquittal of their son for the murder of Trayvon Martin.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-family-death-threats-article-1.1399756#ixzz2ZGmKTzad<BR>

Who are making these death threats— Why target the parents? Is it the color of their skin—
Is that not ALSO racial profiling, on top of making terrorist threats—??

The word "terrorism" is politically and emotionally charged,[5] and this greatly compounds the difficulty of providing a precise definition. Studies have found over 100 definitions of —terrorism??.[6][7] The concept of terrorism may be controversial as it is often used by state authorities (and individuals with access to state support) to delegitimize political or other opponents,[8] and potentially legitimize the state's own use of armed force against opponents (such use of force may be described as "terror" by opponents of the state).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist<BR>
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You know..... when Columbus came, he thought he was in India. So he called the people Indians to hid his ignorance.

An old Native chief sat in his hut on the reservation, smoking a ceremonial pipe and eyeing two U.S. government officials sent to interview him.

"Chief Two Eagles," asked one official, "you have observed the white man for 90 years. You've seen his wars and his technological advances. You've seen
his progress, and the damage he has done." The chief nodded in agreement.

The official continued, "Considering all these events that you have witnessed, where did the white man go wrong?"

The chief stared at the officials for over a minute and then calmly replied: "When the white man came to this land, Indians were running it.

No taxes!
No debt!
Plenty Buffalo.
Plenty Beaver.
Women did all the work.
Medicine Man free.
Native men spent all day hunting and fishing."

Then the chief leaned back and smiled..... "Only a white man dumb enough to think he could improve upon a system like that."
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Content Of Their Character v. Color Of Their Skin:
IF People are going to be "haters" and "racists", and such who advocate threatening bodily harm, even death threats to Zimmerman, his family and friends, and "whites", in general. There's a serious problem
and the responsibility lies not only on those who violate Zimmerman's and other's Civil Rights filled
with Hate language as we have seen in Sut's post with that fed up video. - Hypocrisy is one problem.
Thinking two wrongs make a right is another. (When in fact the wrong I see, is the people claiming
Zimmerman was profiling when they do NOT have factual evidence to substantiate their claims.)

Larry Elder, a talk show host in Los Angeles, was a guest on Piers Morgan on his July 17 show on CNN.
Mr. Elder made some very valid points concerning problems facing the black community.
At time of this posting there was no youtube videos posted of this particular interview.
I visited Mr. Elder's website, see link below, and on it's home page there was a comment
left by one identifying herself as a teacher.

Comment:
"Larry, Instead of people talking about no justice, they should be in their homes teaching children how to behave. I am a teacher and one of the problems I see is how defensive students are when corrected because of their behavior. Their parents don't teach them how to be nonconfrontive. So often students talk about fighting instead of talking. If Trevon behaved differntly, there is a good chance he would be with us today." - Margaret P.
http://www.larryelder.com/<BR>
The comments which this teacher makes raises the question of Trayvon Martin's behavior and defiant attitude. Was Trayvon the "little boy" the NAACP, The Media, Parents had portrayed him to be? "A CHILD"? Or was that an attempt to hide the truth? And what of Rachel Jeantel? A hostile witness??
"Creepy Ass Cracka"—? Weird white person or a homosexual? (they did try to imply child abuse?)

There's a lot more to this story itself than is being told.