Why does this virgo man not caring about my emotions? (Page 2)

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Is asking him for answers a wrong thing?

It's more like you're demanding it...

yes, I will demand for the truth about why am I psychologically getting abused by his family or through his messages

I get it. You love him. It's difficult to let go.

But at this point, in trying to get this truth, you may end up in jail. Is that really worth it to you?

If he really loves me, he will stand up for me and get on my side and not let me get into jail and he will save me

No he won't, or else he would have done more than what he has done already.

but he secretly is caring for me.

Are you reading his mind?

Once the same way, I got blocked from pisces man's phone. So, I called him right away and asked him for the truths and asked if he intentionally did it. But he said he never intentionally meant it and told me i love u and told me that someone else did it from his phone and secured his phone immediately and used to clear our convo as soon as possible after completing them and he protected me. Actually pisces man family did it, and he told it and he told me that we should be careful otherwise they won't let us speak, and he further fixed the things very strongly. Maybe this might happen with this virgo man too, and my gut feeling says that this virgo man may still love me and stand up for me if we get privacy

Pretty sure I'd win the lottery before you get that privacy.

Why don't you think that it works out with this virgo man the same way it had been with the pisces man?

He will never pick you over his family.

But pisces man did, but he said that i am equal with his family and even if they restrict this pisces man he said that he will come eloping with me if needed but he said he never wants to leave me, maybe same happens with the virgo man too

Virgo man =/= Pisces man

Maybe the things are happening for me to make us take our relationship to next level? As everything happens for a reason

That's just what you want to believe.

I believe it with my hear because there's always a blessing in disguise

The blessing here may just be for you to move on.

Why not try one more time with the help of someone else to talk with him, first time when i gave him a chance to open up, he opened up to his bestie about his family's behaviour

His family will see it as harassment.

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who are his family in between to break his heart? Who gave them that right? I don't want them to break his heart

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Is asking him for answers a wrong thing?

It's more like you're demanding it...

yes, I will demand for the truth about why am I psychologically getting abused by his family or through his messages

I get it. You love him. It's difficult to let go.

But at this point, in trying to get this truth, you may end up in jail. Is that really worth it to you?

If he really loves me, he will stand up for me and get on my side and not let me get into jail and he will save me

No he won't, or else he would have done more than what he has done already.

but he secretly is caring for me.

Are you reading his mind?

Once the same way, I got blocked from pisces man's phone. So, I called him right away and asked him for the truths and asked if he intentionally did it. But he said he never intentionally meant it and told me i love u and told me that someone else did it from his phone and secured his phone immediately and used to clear our convo as soon as possible after completing them and he protected me. Actually pisces man family did it, and he told it and he told me that we should be careful otherwise they won't let us speak, and he further fixed the things very strongly. Maybe this might happen with this virgo man too, and my gut feeling says that this virgo man may still love me and stand up for me if we get privacy

Pretty sure I'd win the lottery before you get that privacy.

Why don't you think that it works out with this virgo man the same way it had been with the pisces man?

He will never pick you over his family.

But pisces man did, but he said that i am equal with his family and even if they restrict this pisces man he said that he will come eloping with me if needed but he said he never wants to leave me, maybe same happens with the virgo man too

Virgo man =/= Pisces man

Maybe the things are happening for me to make us take our relationship to next level? As everything happens for a reason

That's just what you want to believe.

I believe it with my hear because there's always a blessing in disguise

The blessing here may just be for you to move on.

Why not try one more time with the help of someone else to talk with him, first time when i gave him a chance to open up, he opened up to his bestie about his family's behaviour

His family will see it as harassment.

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I want to give him one more chance, to see where the things goes

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Is asking him for answers a wrong thing?

It's more like you're demanding it...

yes, I will demand for the truth about why am I psychologically getting abused by his family or through his messages

I get it. You love him. It's difficult to let go.

But at this point, in trying to get this truth, you may end up in jail. Is that really worth it to you?

If he really loves me, he will stand up for me and get on my side and not let me get into jail and he will save me

No he won't, or else he would have done more than what he has done already.

but he secretly is caring for me.

Are you reading his mind?

Once the same way, I got blocked from pisces man's phone. So, I called him right away and asked him for the truths and asked if he intentionally did it. But he said he never intentionally meant it and told me i love u and told me that someone else did it from his phone and secured his phone immediately and used to clear our convo as soon as possible after completing them and he protected me. Actually pisces man family did it, and he told it and he told me that we should be careful otherwise they won't let us speak, and he further fixed the things very strongly. Maybe this might happen with this virgo man too, and my gut feeling says that this virgo man may still love me and stand up for me if we get privacy

Pretty sure I'd win the lottery before you get that privacy.

Why don't you think that it works out with this virgo man the same way it had been with the pisces man?

He will never pick you over his family.

But pisces man did, but he said that i am equal with his family and even if they restrict this pisces man he said that he will come eloping with me if needed but he said he never wants to leave me, maybe same happens with the virgo man too

Virgo man =/= Pisces man

Maybe the things are happening for me to make us take our relationship to next level? As everything happens for a reason

That's just what you want to believe.

I believe it with my hear because there's always a blessing in disguise

The blessing here may just be for you to move on.

Why not try one more time with the help of someone else to talk with him, first time when i gave him a chance to open up, he opened up to his bestie about his family's behaviour

His family will see it as harassment.

who are his family in between to break his heart? Who gave them that right? I don't want them to break his heart

You don't really have a choice about what his family does.

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as a girl who loved him by her heart, i have the responsibility to save his heart

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Is asking him for answers a wrong thing?

It's more like you're demanding it...

yes, I will demand for the truth about why am I psychologically getting abused by his family or through his messages

I get it. You love him. It's difficult to let go.

But at this point, in trying to get this truth, you may end up in jail. Is that really worth it to you?

If he really loves me, he will stand up for me and get on my side and not let me get into jail and he will save me

No he won't, or else he would have done more than what he has done already.

but he secretly is caring for me.

Are you reading his mind?

Once the same way, I got blocked from pisces man's phone. So, I called him right away and asked him for the truths and asked if he intentionally did it. But he said he never intentionally meant it and told me i love u and told me that someone else did it from his phone and secured his phone immediately and used to clear our convo as soon as possible after completing them and he protected me. Actually pisces man family did it, and he told it and he told me that we should be careful otherwise they won't let us speak, and he further fixed the things very strongly. Maybe this might happen with this virgo man too, and my gut feeling says that this virgo man may still love me and stand up for me if we get privacy

Pretty sure I'd win the lottery before you get that privacy.

Why don't you think that it works out with this virgo man the same way it had been with the pisces man?

He will never pick you over his family.

But pisces man did, but he said that i am equal with his family and even if they restrict this pisces man he said that he will come eloping with me if needed but he said he never wants to leave me, maybe same happens with the virgo man too

Virgo man =/= Pisces man

Maybe the things are happening for me to make us take our relationship to next level? As everything happens for a reason

That's just what you want to believe.

I believe it with my hear because there's always a blessing in disguise

The blessing here may just be for you to move on.

Why not try one more time with the help of someone else to talk with him, first time when i gave him a chance to open up, he opened up to his bestie about his family's behaviour

His family will see it as harassment.

who are his family in between to break his heart? Who gave them that right? I don't want them to break his heart

You don't really have a choice about what his family does.

as a girl who loved him by her heart, i have the responsibility to save his heart

No, it's not your responsibility. He's responsible for his own heart.

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maybe he's failing to protect his heart, so he maybe hopeless, why shouldn't I make him win by doing it from my side?

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Is asking him for answers a wrong thing?

It's more like you're demanding it...

yes, I will demand for the truth about why am I psychologically getting abused by his family or through his messages

I get it. You love him. It's difficult to let go.

But at this point, in trying to get this truth, you may end up in jail. Is that really worth it to you?

If he really loves me, he will stand up for me and get on my side and not let me get into jail and he will save me

No he won't, or else he would have done more than what he has done already.

but he secretly is caring for me.

Are you reading his mind?

Once the same way, I got blocked from pisces man's phone. So, I called him right away and asked him for the truths and asked if he intentionally did it. But he said he never intentionally meant it and told me i love u and told me that someone else did it from his phone and secured his phone immediately and used to clear our convo as soon as possible after completing them and he protected me. Actually pisces man family did it, and he told it and he told me that we should be careful otherwise they won't let us speak, and he further fixed the things very strongly. Maybe this might happen with this virgo man too, and my gut feeling says that this virgo man may still love me and stand up for me if we get privacy

Pretty sure I'd win the lottery before you get that privacy.

Why don't you think that it works out with this virgo man the same way it had been with the pisces man?

He will never pick you over his family.

But pisces man did, but he said that i am equal with his family and even if they restrict this pisces man he said that he will come eloping with me if needed but he said he never wants to leave me, maybe same happens with the virgo man too

Virgo man =/= Pisces man

Maybe the things are happening for me to make us take our relationship to next level? As everything happens for a reason

That's just what you want to believe.

I believe it with my hear because there's always a blessing in disguise

The blessing here may just be for you to move on.

Why not try one more time with the help of someone else to talk with him, first time when i gave him a chance to open up, he opened up to his bestie about his family's behaviour

His family will see it as harassment.

who are his family in between to break his heart? Who gave them that right? I don't want them to break his heart

You don't really have a choice about what his family does.

as a girl who loved him by her heart, i have the responsibility to save his heart

No, it's not your responsibility. He's responsible for his own heart.

maybe he's failing to protect his heart, so he maybe hopeless, why shouldn't I make him win by doing it from my side?

It's still up to him to protect his own heart.

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maybe he needs someone's help to protect it.... since i already love him, and willing to do anything for him, i will take the chance of protecting his heart

Ugh Virgo men. Not sure who are worse. Cancer or Virgo...

He may well be married. The whole situation sounds stupid. What grown man allows their brother or father to remove their phone. One you ought to avoid!

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Ugh Virgo men. Not sure who are worse. Cancer or Virgo...

He may well be married. The whole situation sounds stupid. What grown man allows their brother or father to remove their phone. One you ought to avoid!

his brother and father are the main controllers of his family. he is of a different religion and his religion ppl are very dangerous. maybe that's the reason he is unable to fight with them for me or maybe afraid that they will harm me since they already gave me warnings maybe they given him too

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Is asking him for answers a wrong thing?

It's more like you're demanding it...

yes, I will demand for the truth about why am I psychologically getting abused by his family or through his messages

I get it. You love him. It's difficult to let go.

But at this point, in trying to get this truth, you may end up in jail. Is that really worth it to you?

If he really loves me, he will stand up for me and get on my side and not let me get into jail and he will save me

No he won't, or else he would have done more than what he has done already.

but he secretly is caring for me.

Are you reading his mind?

Once the same way, I got blocked from pisces man's phone. So, I called him right away and asked him for the truths and asked if he intentionally did it. But he said he never intentionally meant it and told me i love u and told me that someone else did it from his phone and secured his phone immediately and used to clear our convo as soon as possible after completing them and he protected me. Actually pisces man family did it, and he told it and he told me that we should be careful otherwise they won't let us speak, and he further fixed the things very strongly. Maybe this might happen with this virgo man too, and my gut feeling says that this virgo man may still love me and stand up for me if we get privacy

Pretty sure I'd win the lottery before you get that privacy.

Why don't you think that it works out with this virgo man the same way it had been with the pisces man?

He will never pick you over his family.

But pisces man did, but he said that i am equal with his family and even if they restrict this pisces man he said that he will come eloping with me if needed but he said he never wants to leave me, maybe same happens with the virgo man too

Virgo man =/= Pisces man

Maybe the things are happening for me to make us take our relationship to next level? As everything happens for a reason

That's just what you want to believe.

I believe it with my hear because there's always a blessing in disguise

The blessing here may just be for you to move on.

Why not try one more time with the help of someone else to talk with him, first time when i gave him a chance to open up, he opened up to his bestie about his family's behaviour

His family will see it as harassment.

who are his family in between to break his heart? Who gave them that right? I don't want them to break his heart

You don't really have a choice about what his family does.

as a girl who loved him by her heart, i have the responsibility to save his heart

No, it's not your responsibility. He's responsible for his own heart.

maybe he's failing to protect his heart, so he maybe hopeless, why shouldn't I make him win by doing it from my side?

It's still up to him to protect his own heart.

maybe he needs someone's help to protect it.... since i already love him, and willing to do anything for him, i will take the chance of protecting his heart

If he can't protect his own heart, how does he protect you?

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I will try to protect mine. If we unite, maybe he can even protect mine❤️

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Is asking him for answers a wrong thing?

It's more like you're demanding it...

yes, I will demand for the truth about why am I psychologically getting abused by his family or through his messages

I get it. You love him. It's difficult to let go.

But at this point, in trying to get this truth, you may end up in jail. Is that really worth it to you?

If he really loves me, he will stand up for me and get on my side and not let me get into jail and he will save me

No he won't, or else he would have done more than what he has done already.

but he secretly is caring for me.

Are you reading his mind?

Once the same way, I got blocked from pisces man's phone. So, I called him right away and asked him for the truths and asked if he intentionally did it. But he said he never intentionally meant it and told me i love u and told me that someone else did it from his phone and secured his phone immediately and used to clear our convo as soon as possible after completing them and he protected me. Actually pisces man family did it, and he told it and he told me that we should be careful otherwise they won't let us speak, and he further fixed the things very strongly. Maybe this might happen with this virgo man too, and my gut feeling says that this virgo man may still love me and stand up for me if we get privacy

Pretty sure I'd win the lottery before you get that privacy.

Why don't you think that it works out with this virgo man the same way it had been with the pisces man?

He will never pick you over his family.

But pisces man did, but he said that i am equal with his family and even if they restrict this pisces man he said that he will come eloping with me if needed but he said he never wants to leave me, maybe same happens with the virgo man too

Virgo man =/= Pisces man

Maybe the things are happening for me to make us take our relationship to next level? As everything happens for a reason

That's just what you want to believe.

I believe it with my hear because there's always a blessing in disguise

The blessing here may just be for you to move on.

Why not try one more time with the help of someone else to talk with him, first time when i gave him a chance to open up, he opened up to his bestie about his family's behaviour

His family will see it as harassment.

who are his family in between to break his heart? Who gave them that right? I don't want them to break his heart

You don't really have a choice about what his family does.

as a girl who loved him by her heart, i have the responsibility to save his heart

No, it's not your responsibility. He's responsible for his own heart.

maybe he's failing to protect his heart, so he maybe hopeless, why shouldn't I make him win by doing it from my side?

It's still up to him to protect his own heart.

maybe he needs someone's help to protect it.... since i already love him, and willing to do anything for him, i will take the chance of protecting his heart

If he can't protect his own heart, how does he protect you?

I will try to protect mine. If we unite, maybe he can even protect mine❤️

Protect yourself from him and his family.

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Why not be with him if he feels the same?

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Is asking him for answers a wrong thing?

It's more like you're demanding it...

yes, I will demand for the truth about why am I psychologically getting abused by his family or through his messages

I get it. You love him. It's difficult to let go.

But at this point, in trying to get this truth, you may end up in jail. Is that really worth it to you?

If he really loves me, he will stand up for me and get on my side and not let me get into jail and he will save me

No he won't, or else he would have done more than what he has done already.

but he secretly is caring for me.

Are you reading his mind?

Once the same way, I got blocked from pisces man's phone. So, I called him right away and asked him for the truths and asked if he intentionally did it. But he said he never intentionally meant it and told me i love u and told me that someone else did it from his phone and secured his phone immediately and used to clear our convo as soon as possible after completing them and he protected me. Actually pisces man family did it, and he told it and he told me that we should be careful otherwise they won't let us speak, and he further fixed the things very strongly. Maybe this might happen with this virgo man too, and my gut feeling says that this virgo man may still love me and stand up for me if we get privacy

Pretty sure I'd win the lottery before you get that privacy.

Why don't you think that it works out with this virgo man the same way it had been with the pisces man?

He will never pick you over his family.

But pisces man did, but he said that i am equal with his family and even if they restrict this pisces man he said that he will come eloping with me if needed but he said he never wants to leave me, maybe same happens with the virgo man too

Virgo man =/= Pisces man

Maybe the things are happening for me to make us take our relationship to next level? As everything happens for a reason

That's just what you want to believe.

I believe it with my hear because there's always a blessing in disguise

The blessing here may just be for you to move on.

Why not try one more time with the help of someone else to talk with him, first time when i gave him a chance to open up, he opened up to his bestie about his family's behaviour

His family will see it as harassment.

who are his family in between to break his heart? Who gave them that right? I don't want them to break his heart

You don't really have a choice about what his family does.

as a girl who loved him by her heart, i have the responsibility to save his heart

No, it's not your responsibility. He's responsible for his own heart.

maybe he's failing to protect his heart, so he maybe hopeless, why shouldn't I make him win by doing it from my side?

It's still up to him to protect his own heart.

maybe he needs someone's help to protect it.... since i already love him, and willing to do anything for him, i will take the chance of protecting his heart

If he can't protect his own heart, how does he protect you?

I will try to protect mine. If we unite, maybe he can even protect mine❤️

Protect yourself from him and his family.

Why not be with him if he feels the same?

Not realistic.

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He loved me a lot previously and told me that I got you so I trust him with all my heart

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Is asking him for answers a wrong thing?

It's more like you're demanding it...

yes, I will demand for the truth about why am I psychologically getting abused by his family or through his messages

I get it. You love him. It's difficult to let go.

But at this point, in trying to get this truth, you may end up in jail. Is that really worth it to you?

If he really loves me, he will stand up for me and get on my side and not let me get into jail and he will save me

No he won't, or else he would have done more than what he has done already.

but he secretly is caring for me.

Are you reading his mind?

Once the same way, I got blocked from pisces man's phone. So, I called him right away and asked him for the truths and asked if he intentionally did it. But he said he never intentionally meant it and told me i love u and told me that someone else did it from his phone and secured his phone immediately and used to clear our convo as soon as possible after completing them and he protected me. Actually pisces man family did it, and he told it and he told me that we should be careful otherwise they won't let us speak, and he further fixed the things very strongly. Maybe this might happen with this virgo man too, and my gut feeling says that this virgo man may still love me and stand up for me if we get privacy

Pretty sure I'd win the lottery before you get that privacy.

Why don't you think that it works out with this virgo man the same way it had been with the pisces man?

He will never pick you over his family.

But pisces man did, but he said that i am equal with his family and even if they restrict this pisces man he said that he will come eloping with me if needed but he said he never wants to leave me, maybe same happens with the virgo man too

Virgo man =/= Pisces man

Maybe the things are happening for me to make us take our relationship to next level? As everything happens for a reason

That's just what you want to believe.

I believe it with my hear because there's always a blessing in disguise

The blessing here may just be for you to move on.

Why not try one more time with the help of someone else to talk with him, first time when i gave him a chance to open up, he opened up to his bestie about his family's behaviour

His family will see it as harassment.

who are his family in between to break his heart? Who gave them that right? I don't want them to break his heart

You don't really have a choice about what his family does.

as a girl who loved him by her heart, i have the responsibility to save his heart

No, it's not your responsibility. He's responsible for his own heart.

maybe he's failing to protect his heart, so he maybe hopeless, why shouldn't I make him win by doing it from my side?

It's still up to him to protect his own heart.

maybe he needs someone's help to protect it.... since i already love him, and willing to do anything for him, i will take the chance of protecting his heart

If he can't protect his own heart, how does he protect you?

I will try to protect mine. If we unite, maybe he can even protect mine❤️

Protect yourself from him and his family.

Why not be with him if he feels the same?

Not realistic.

He loved me a lot previously and told me that I got you so I trust him with all my heart

Keyword "previously", not now.

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okay, i know that he gives up so easily. So, maybe due to tight situations he maybe losing up the hope. I will fight for him. I will fight for the truth. I will fight to know what's in his heart. I will fight to give him the privacy convo he needs.. i will win him finally

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Is asking him for answers a wrong thing?

It's more like you're demanding it...

yes, I will demand for the truth about why am I psychologically getting abused by his family or through his messages

I get it. You love him. It's difficult to let go.

But at this point, in trying to get this truth, you may end up in jail. Is that really worth it to you?

If he really loves me, he will stand up for me and get on my side and not let me get into jail and he will save me

No he won't, or else he would have done more than what he has done already.

but he secretly is caring for me.

Are you reading his mind?

Once the same way, I got blocked from pisces man's phone. So, I called him right away and asked him for the truths and asked if he intentionally did it. But he said he never intentionally meant it and told me i love u and told me that someone else did it from his phone and secured his phone immediately and used to clear our convo as soon as possible after completing them and he protected me. Actually pisces man family did it, and he told it and he told me that we should be careful otherwise they won't let us speak, and he further fixed the things very strongly. Maybe this might happen with this virgo man too, and my gut feeling says that this virgo man may still love me and stand up for me if we get privacy

Pretty sure I'd win the lottery before you get that privacy.

Why don't you think that it works out with this virgo man the same way it had been with the pisces man?

He will never pick you over his family.

But pisces man did, but he said that i am equal with his family and even if they restrict this pisces man he said that he will come eloping with me if needed but he said he never wants to leave me, maybe same happens with the virgo man too

Virgo man =/= Pisces man

Maybe the things are happening for me to make us take our relationship to next level? As everything happens for a reason

That's just what you want to believe.

I believe it with my hear because there's always a blessing in disguise

The blessing here may just be for you to move on.

Why not try one more time with the help of someone else to talk with him, first time when i gave him a chance to open up, he opened up to his bestie about his family's behaviour

His family will see it as harassment.

who are his family in between to break his heart? Who gave them that right? I don't want them to break his heart

You don't really have a choice about what his family does.

as a girl who loved him by her heart, i have the responsibility to save his heart

No, it's not your responsibility. He's responsible for his own heart.

maybe he's failing to protect his heart, so he maybe hopeless, why shouldn't I make him win by doing it from my side?

It's still up to him to protect his own heart.

maybe he needs someone's help to protect it.... since i already love him, and willing to do anything for him, i will take the chance of protecting his heart

If he can't protect his own heart, how does he protect you?

I will try to protect mine. If we unite, maybe he can even protect mine❤️

Protect yourself from him and his family.

Why not be with him if he feels the same?

Not realistic.

He loved me a lot previously and told me that I got you so I trust him with all my heart

Keyword "previously", not now.

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Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

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Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

I got it, but he needs to let me know the reasons, or what happened, and give me a proper closure instead of doing these shitty things to me

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@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

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Shall I make someone ask him about this? Does it does any good than bad? I want a proper closure from him and want to end things on good terms only but not on bad terms

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@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

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Why he don't want me as a friend? What wrong did I do??

This whole "his brother, father won't let him talk to me" is a lie. He doesn't want to talk to you and is using them to help push you away. He feels it's kinder to blame his father for not talking to you rather than the truth which is after meeting with you he is no longer interested. When a man backs away from you by not returning your calls and texts that is you clue to stop all contact and move on with your life. Not find other ways to try to reach him. That will make him hate you because you obviously can't take a hint. How many ways does he have to block you before you get the message - he is not interested in you. If he ever was he isn't now and you have to move on.

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@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

Why he don't want me as a friend? What wrong did I do??

We can't read each other's minds, so asking us about what his distinct thoughts, feelings, and beliefs are on you is a waste of effort on your part, you likely will not get a very accurate or useful answer...all we can do is hold up the mirror you provided us with your stories.

But while we can't read his mind, we can ask you a few questions in return. Please consider them and respond if you wish.

Would someone who wants to be your friend, treat you like this?

Would you want someone who treats you like this to treat your child like this?

Would you want your child/lil sister to be treated like this?

Would you want a person who is interested in you to act in the way you have been acting which is volatile and wrathful, harassing, and demanding?

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last question answer is i absolutely love that kind of person who is like me, because i see love in myself, i would love a get a despo like me❤️

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@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

Why he don't want me as a friend? What wrong did I do??

You are acting pathetic, desperate and annoying. That is what you did wrong and that is why he doesn't want you in his life.

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if someone acts like that, i would love them to death

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@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

I got it, but he needs to let me know the reasons, or what happened, and give me a proper closure instead of doing these shitty things to me

The thing is, he actually doesn't owe you closure.

He doesn't owe you an explanation, he doesn't need to catch you up on what happened, he has no responsibility to give you closure, he doesn't need to make sure you are okay, he doesn't have to make sure you don't hurt.He owes you none of that. You very much so owe that to yourself, however.

You may want him to come to account in order to make yourself feel better, but he is not responsible for you choosing to stay in discomfort. You are not his wife, he has no responsibility for you or how you feel... the closure you need is actually going to come from you. You will likely need to learn how to: affirm yourself, value yourself, soothe your hurts yourself and with those who want to be in connection with you.

Especially if he is not interested in maintaining a connection to you, which very much so seems to be the case.

You have to be responsible for your own closure when someone is unwilling or unable to give it.

If you persist it will be frustrating...like trying to draw water from a stone. The stone has none to give and you will be left feeling parched.

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but the pisces man whom i had in my past is so heartwarming person. he never made me feel like shit. he always made me feel like a queen and he never insulted me not even as a joke and loved my desperation a lot..

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This whole "his brother, father won't let him talk to me" is a lie. He doesn't want to talk to you and is using them to help push you away. He feels it's kinder to blame his father for not talking to you rather than the truth which is after meeting with you he is no longer interested. When a man backs away from you by not returning your calls and texts that is you clue to stop all contact and move on with your life. Not find other ways to try to reach him. That will make him hate you because you obviously can't take a hint. How many ways does he have to block you before you get the message - he is not interested in you. If he ever was he isn't now and you have to move on.

he is a player who played with my emotions

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@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

Why he don't want me as a friend? What wrong did I do??

We can't read each other's minds, so asking us about what his distinct thoughts, feelings, and beliefs are on you is a waste of effort on your part, you likely will not get a very accurate or useful answer...all we can do is hold up the mirror you provided us with your stories.

But while we can't read his mind, we can ask you a few questions in return. Please consider them and respond if you wish.

Would someone who wants to be your friend, treat you like this?

Would you want someone who treats you like this to treat your child like this?

Would you want your child/lil sister to be treated like this?

Would you want a person who is interested in you to act in the way you have been acting which is volatile and wrathful, harassing, and demanding?

last question answer is i absolutely love that kind of person who is like me, because i see love in myself, i would love a get a despo like me❤️

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Then go out and find that person because it is clear this Virgo man is nothing like you. The guy you want is out there so stop wasting time on someone who doesn't want you.

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Posted by Ixi

@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

Why he don't want me as a friend? What wrong did I do??

We can't read each other's minds, so asking us about what his distinct thoughts, feelings, and beliefs are on you is a waste of effort on your part, you likely will not get a very accurate or useful answer...all we can do is hold up the mirror you provided us with your stories.

But while we can't read his mind, we can ask you a few questions in return. Please consider them and respond if you wish.

Would someone who wants to be your friend, treat you like this?

Would you want someone who treats you like this to treat your child like this?

Would you want your child/lil sister to be treated like this?

Would you want a person who is interested in you to act in the way you have been acting which is volatile and wrathful, harassing, and demanding?

last question answer is i absolutely love that kind of person who is like me, because i see love in myself, i would love a get a despo like me❤️

Even if what you wanted was healthy, the virgo you are interested in is clearly not that person.

Beyond that, what about the other questions? Do you have answers for those?

Even further beyond that, what do you think desperation represents here?

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deaperation here is feeling needed

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@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

I got it, but he needs to let me know the reasons, or what happened, and give me a proper closure instead of doing these shitty things to me

The thing is, he actually doesn't owe you closure.

He doesn't owe you an explanation, he doesn't need to catch you up on what happened, he has no responsibility to give you closure, he doesn't need to make sure you are okay, he doesn't have to make sure you don't hurt.He owes you none of that. You very much so owe that to yourself, however.

You may want him to come to account in order to make yourself feel better, but he is not responsible for you choosing to stay in discomfort. You are not his wife, he has no responsibility for you or how you feel... the closure you need is actually going to come from you. You will likely need to learn how to: affirm yourself, value yourself, soothe your hurts yourself and with those who want to be in connection with you.

Especially if he is not interested in maintaining a connection to you, which very much so seems to be the case.

You have to be responsible for your own closure when someone is unwilling or unable to give it.

If you persist it will be frustrating...like trying to draw water from a stone. The stone has none to give and you will be left feeling parched.

but the pisces man whom i had in my past is so heartwarming person. he never made me feel like shit. he always made me feel like a queen and he never insulted me not even as a joke and loved my desperation a lot..

The pisces was the pisces, the virgo is the virgo. They are two different people.

Tell me, would you be okay with someone who is interested in you not seeing you for who you are because they were hyper focused on who they used to be in a relationship with?

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absolutely, because once there is love, there should always be

Man I don't even know you and I'm muting you on DXP. Crazy bitch troll. Shame on the rest of you for entertaining this over and over and over.

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This whole "his brother, father won't let him talk to me" is a lie. He doesn't want to talk to you and is using them to help push you away. He feels it's kinder to blame his father for not talking to you rather than the truth which is after meeting with you he is no longer interested. When a man backs away from you by not returning your calls and texts that is you clue to stop all contact and move on with your life. Not find other ways to try to reach him. That will make him hate you because you obviously can't take a hint. How many ways does he have to block you before you get the message - he is not interested in you. If he ever was he isn't now and you have to move on.

he is a player who played with my emotions

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I don't know if he's a player or not, sometimes people feel one way and after getting to know a person they change their mind. I think that is what happened here but instead of being honest and telling you straight out he's not interested he resorted to blaming and lying to end contact. You don't take hints so a snowflake has now turned into a boulder and you still refuse it. I've had a Virgo boyfriend and let me tell you they may be calm but when they want you they come after you, no guessing, they let you know they want you and act on it. How old are you and him?

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Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

Why he don't want me as a friend? What wrong did I do??

You are acting pathetic, desperate and annoying. That is what you did wrong and that is why he doesn't want you in his life.

if someone acts like that, i would love them to death

That's you, not everyone is the same. And you shouldn't want someone acting pathetic and desperate, it means they don't value and love themselves. How can someone love you if they don't love themselves? They can say they love you, but it's really just that they can't stand to be alone and have to focus on their own shit, so they obsess about others. It's not healthy. And that's what you are doing..

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no i would love a person who is like that, because they wil do anything for me, and i can make love themselves too.. this is a beautifully growing love

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@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

I got it, but he needs to let me know the reasons, or what happened, and give me a proper closure instead of doing these shitty things to me

The thing is, he actually doesn't owe you closure.

He doesn't owe you an explanation, he doesn't need to catch you up on what happened, he has no responsibility to give you closure, he doesn't need to make sure you are okay, he doesn't have to make sure you don't hurt.He owes you none of that. You very much so owe that to yourself, however.

You may want him to come to account in order to make yourself feel better, but he is not responsible for you choosing to stay in discomfort. You are not his wife, he has no responsibility for you or how you feel... the closure you need is actually going to come from you. You will likely need to learn how to: affirm yourself, value yourself, soothe your hurts yourself and with those who want to be in connection with you.

Especially if he is not interested in maintaining a connection to you, which very much so seems to be the case.

You have to be responsible for your own closure when someone is unwilling or unable to give it.

If you persist it will be frustrating...like trying to draw water from a stone. The stone has none to give and you will be left feeling parched.

but the pisces man whom i had in my past is so heartwarming person. he never made me feel like shit. he always made me feel like a queen and he never insulted me not even as a joke and loved my desperation a lot..

The pisces was the pisces, the virgo is the virgo. They are two different people.

Tell me, would you be okay with someone who is interested in you not seeing you for who you are because they were hyper focused on who they used to be in a relationship with?

absolutely, because once there is love, there should always be

Why do you believe that?

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because i am like that

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Posted by Ixi

@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

I got it, but he needs to let me know the reasons, or what happened, and give me a proper closure instead of doing these shitty things to me

The thing is, he actually doesn't owe you closure.

He doesn't owe you an explanation, he doesn't need to catch you up on what happened, he has no responsibility to give you closure, he doesn't need to make sure you are okay, he doesn't have to make sure you don't hurt.He owes you none of that. You very much so owe that to yourself, however.

You may want him to come to account in order to make yourself feel better, but he is not responsible for you choosing to stay in discomfort. You are not his wife, he has no responsibility for you or how you feel... the closure you need is actually going to come from you. You will likely need to learn how to: affirm yourself, value yourself, soothe your hurts yourself and with those who want to be in connection with you.

Especially if he is not interested in maintaining a connection to you, which very much so seems to be the case.

You have to be responsible for your own closure when someone is unwilling or unable to give it.

If you persist it will be frustrating...like trying to draw water from a stone. The stone has none to give and you will be left feeling parched.

but the pisces man whom i had in my past is so heartwarming person. he never made me feel like shit. he always made me feel like a queen and he never insulted me not even as a joke and loved my desperation a lot..

So what happened to him then?

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things went wrong at one point, and we mutually left each other

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Posted by Ixi

@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

I got it, but he needs to let me know the reasons, or what happened, and give me a proper closure instead of doing these shitty things to me

The thing is, he actually doesn't owe you closure.

He doesn't owe you an explanation, he doesn't need to catch you up on what happened, he has no responsibility to give you closure, he doesn't need to make sure you are okay, he doesn't have to make sure you don't hurt.He owes you none of that. You very much so owe that to yourself, however.

You may want him to come to account in order to make yourself feel better, but he is not responsible for you choosing to stay in discomfort. You are not his wife, he has no responsibility for you or how you feel... the closure you need is actually going to come from you. You will likely need to learn how to: affirm yourself, value yourself, soothe your hurts yourself and with those who want to be in connection with you.

Especially if he is not interested in maintaining a connection to you, which very much so seems to be the case.

You have to be responsible for your own closure when someone is unwilling or unable to give it.

If you persist it will be frustrating...like trying to draw water from a stone. The stone has none to give and you will be left feeling parched.

but the pisces man whom i had in my past is so heartwarming person. he never made me feel like shit. he always made me feel like a queen and he never insulted me not even as a joke and loved my desperation a lot..

The pisces was the pisces, the virgo is the virgo. They are two different people.

Tell me, would you be okay with someone who is interested in you not seeing you for who you are because they were hyper focused on who they used to be in a relationship with?

absolutely, because once there is love, there should always be

Why do you believe that?

She obviously doesn't or she would still be with the Pisces that "loved" her desperation.

How can she believe that and love the Virgo now, not the Pisces?

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pisces man's and mine part is over due to mutual agreement. we made everything clear, and got proper closure from each other, since at some point i didn't understood him properly is how i lost him

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This whole "his brother, father won't let him talk to me" is a lie. He doesn't want to talk to you and is using them to help push you away. He feels it's kinder to blame his father for not talking to you rather than the truth which is after meeting with you he is no longer interested. When a man backs away from you by not returning your calls and texts that is you clue to stop all contact and move on with your life. Not find other ways to try to reach him. That will make him hate you because you obviously can't take a hint. How many ways does he have to block you before you get the message - he is not interested in you. If he ever was he isn't now and you have to move on.

he is a player who played with my emotions

I don't know if he's a player or not, sometimes people feel one way and after getting to know a person they change their mind. I think that is what happened here but instead of being honest and telling you straight out he's not interested he resorted to blaming and lying to end contact. You don't take hints so a snowflake has now turned into a boulder and you still refuse it. I've had a Virgo boyfriend and let me tell you they may be calm but when they want you they come after you, no guessing, they let you know they want you and act on it. How old are you and him?

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we're in 20's

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@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

Why he don't want me as a friend? What wrong did I do??

You are acting pathetic, desperate and annoying. That is what you did wrong and that is why he doesn't want you in his life.

if someone acts like that, i would love them to death

That's you, not everyone is the same. And you shouldn't want someone acting pathetic and desperate, it means they don't value and love themselves. How can someone love you if they don't love themselves? They can say they love you, but it's really just that they can't stand to be alone and have to focus on their own shit, so they obsess about others. It's not healthy. And that's what you are doing..

no i would love a person who is like that, because they wil do anything for me, and i can make love themselves too.. this is a beautifully growing love

You have a very unhealthy idea of love. It's going to bring you a lot of disappointments in life.

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this is too healthy kind of love which comes with lot of sympathy love and understanding on each other

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Posted by Ixi

@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

Why he don't want me as a friend? What wrong did I do??

We can't read each other's minds, so asking us about what his distinct thoughts, feelings, and beliefs are on you is a waste of effort on your part, you likely will not get a very accurate or useful answer...all we can do is hold up the mirror you provided us with your stories.

But while we can't read his mind, we can ask you a few questions in return. Please consider them and respond if you wish.

Would someone who wants to be your friend, treat you like this?

Would you want someone who treats you like this to treat your child like this?

Would you want your child/lil sister to be treated like this?

Would you want a person who is interested in you to act in the way you have been acting which is volatile and wrathful, harassing, and demanding?

last question answer is i absolutely love that kind of person who is like me, because i see love in myself, i would love a get a despo like me❤️

Even if what you wanted was healthy, the virgo you are interested in is clearly not that person.

Beyond that, what about the other questions? Do you have answers for those?

Even further beyond that, what do you think desperation represents here?

deaperation here is feeling needed

Is that true? People are needed all the time in relationships but in non-desperate ways, desperation never even enters into the conversation I would like to ask you to reflect on that reality because need does not equal desperation...but those who are desperate definitely have unmet needs.

So I ask this instead...what is it that you are needing?

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since i built a lot of love on him since an year. he loved me a lot before an year. we got 1 year break of not seeing each other. i broke him 1 year ago. he is breaking me now very brutally

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@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

Why he don't want me as a friend? What wrong did I do??

You are acting pathetic, desperate and annoying. That is what you did wrong and that is why he doesn't want you in his life.

if someone acts like that, i would love them to death

That's you, not everyone is the same. And you shouldn't want someone acting pathetic and desperate, it means they don't value and love themselves. How can someone love you if they don't love themselves? They can say they love you, but it's really just that they can't stand to be alone and have to focus on their own shit, so they obsess about others. It's not healthy. And that's what you are doing..

no i would love a person who is like that, because they wil do anything for me, and i can make love themselves too.. this is a beautifully growing love

You have a very unhealthy idea of love. It's going to bring you a lot of disappointments in life.

this is too healthy kind of love which comes with lot of sympathy love and understanding on each other

It's not healthy if it's one sided. And it's definitely one sided.

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maybe, but if someone does me like this, i would fall head over heels for them and i will definitely treat him like a king in all ways

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Posted by Ixi

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Posted by Ixi

@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

I got it, but he needs to let me know the reasons, or what happened, and give me a proper closure instead of doing these shitty things to me

The thing is, he actually doesn't owe you closure.

He doesn't owe you an explanation, he doesn't need to catch you up on what happened, he has no responsibility to give you closure, he doesn't need to make sure you are okay, he doesn't have to make sure you don't hurt.He owes you none of that. You very much so owe that to yourself, however.

You may want him to come to account in order to make yourself feel better, but he is not responsible for you choosing to stay in discomfort. You are not his wife, he has no responsibility for you or how you feel... the closure you need is actually going to come from you. You will likely need to learn how to: affirm yourself, value yourself, soothe your hurts yourself and with those who want to be in connection with you.

Especially if he is not interested in maintaining a connection to you, which very much so seems to be the case.

You have to be responsible for your own closure when someone is unwilling or unable to give it.

If you persist it will be frustrating...like trying to draw water from a stone. The stone has none to give and you will be left feeling parched.

but the pisces man whom i had in my past is so heartwarming person. he never made me feel like shit. he always made me feel like a queen and he never insulted me not even as a joke and loved my desperation a lot..

So what happened to him then?

things went wrong at one point, and we mutually left each other

But you just said to Ixi "because once there is love, there should always be"

So why does that apply to the Virgo but not the Pisces?

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yes, pisces man still loves me and cares for me, i love him and care for him too, but we are not in a relationship that's it. It's a pure kind of care

No sweetie this isn't a "beautifully growing love" this is a guy who is trying to let a girl go but she won't move on. That's okay because there is a beautiful love for you out there but you won't find it hanging onto an illusion. You won't say how old you guys are but I can only hope you are young and just starting to get experience with men. I would hate to think there are grown women who would act like this when they've clearly been rejected.

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@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

Why he don't want me as a friend? What wrong did I do??

We can't read each other's minds, so asking us about what his distinct thoughts, feelings, and beliefs are on you is a waste of effort on your part, you likely will not get a very accurate or useful answer...all we can do is hold up the mirror you provided us with your stories.

But while we can't read his mind, we can ask you a few questions in return. Please consider them and respond if you wish.

Would someone who wants to be your friend, treat you like this?

Would you want someone who treats you like this to treat your child like this?

Would you want your child/lil sister to be treated like this?

Would you want a person who is interested in you to act in the way you have been acting which is volatile and wrathful, harassing, and demanding?

last question answer is i absolutely love that kind of person who is like me, because i see love in myself, i would love a get a despo like me❤️

Even if what you wanted was healthy, the virgo you are interested in is clearly not that person.

Beyond that, what about the other questions? Do you have answers for those?

Even further beyond that, what do you think desperation represents here?

deaperation here is feeling needed

Is that true? People are needed all the time in relationships but in non-desperate ways, desperation never even enters into the conversation I would like to ask you to reflect on that reality because need does not equal desperation...but those who are desperate definitely have unmet needs.

So I ask this instead...what is it that you are needing?

since i built a lot of love on him since an year. he loved me a lot before an year. we got 1 year break of not seeing each other. i broke him 1 year ago. he is breaking me now very brutally

Okay, but honestly what are you needing? Not from the Virgo, but in a relationship? What are the things you are needing?

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i am needing his past love, i am needing his past caring nature for me

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@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

I got it, but he needs to let me know the reasons, or what happened, and give me a proper closure instead of doing these shitty things to me

The thing is, he actually doesn't owe you closure.

He doesn't owe you an explanation, he doesn't need to catch you up on what happened, he has no responsibility to give you closure, he doesn't need to make sure you are okay, he doesn't have to make sure you don't hurt.He owes you none of that. You very much so owe that to yourself, however.

You may want him to come to account in order to make yourself feel better, but he is not responsible for you choosing to stay in discomfort. You are not his wife, he has no responsibility for you or how you feel... the closure you need is actually going to come from you. You will likely need to learn how to: affirm yourself, value yourself, soothe your hurts yourself and with those who want to be in connection with you.

Especially if he is not interested in maintaining a connection to you, which very much so seems to be the case.

You have to be responsible for your own closure when someone is unwilling or unable to give it.

If you persist it will be frustrating...like trying to draw water from a stone. The stone has none to give and you will be left feeling parched.

but the pisces man whom i had in my past is so heartwarming person. he never made me feel like shit. he always made me feel like a queen and he never insulted me not even as a joke and loved my desperation a lot..

So what happened to him then?

things went wrong at one point, and we mutually left each other

But you just said to Ixi "because once there is love, there should always be"

So why does that apply to the Virgo but not the Pisces?

yes, pisces man still loves me and cares for me, i love him and care for him too, but we are not in a relationship that's it. It's a pure kind of care

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Sounds like this Pisces is the guy you need to be with - his feelings match yours.

Posted by DonnaLibra

No sweetie this isn't a "beautifully growing love" this is a guy who is trying to let a girl go but she won't move on. That's okay because there is a beautiful love for you out there but you won't find it hanging onto an illusion. You won't say how old you guys are but I can only hope you are young and just starting to get experience with men. I would hate to think there are grown women who would act like this when they've clearly been rejected.

we are just 20s

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Posted by Ixi

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Posted by Ixi

@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

I got it, but he needs to let me know the reasons, or what happened, and give me a proper closure instead of doing these shitty things to me

The thing is, he actually doesn't owe you closure.

He doesn't owe you an explanation, he doesn't need to catch you up on what happened, he has no responsibility to give you closure, he doesn't need to make sure you are okay, he doesn't have to make sure you don't hurt.He owes you none of that. You very much so owe that to yourself, however.

You may want him to come to account in order to make yourself feel better, but he is not responsible for you choosing to stay in discomfort. You are not his wife, he has no responsibility for you or how you feel... the closure you need is actually going to come from you. You will likely need to learn how to: affirm yourself, value yourself, soothe your hurts yourself and with those who want to be in connection with you.

Especially if he is not interested in maintaining a connection to you, which very much so seems to be the case.

You have to be responsible for your own closure when someone is unwilling or unable to give it.

If you persist it will be frustrating...like trying to draw water from a stone. The stone has none to give and you will be left feeling parched.

but the pisces man whom i had in my past is so heartwarming person. he never made me feel like shit. he always made me feel like a queen and he never insulted me not even as a joke and loved my desperation a lot..

So what happened to him then?

things went wrong at one point, and we mutually left each other

But you just said to Ixi "because once there is love, there should always be"

So why does that apply to the Virgo but not the Pisces?

yes, pisces man still loves me and cares for me, i love him and care for him too, but we are not in a relationship that's it. It's a pure kind of care

Sounds like this Pisces is the guy you need to be with - his feelings match yours.

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he moved on and is in relationship with some other girl. I don't want to break them

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Posted by Ixi

Posted by smiley_smiles

Posted by Gem03

Posted by Ixi

@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

Why he don't want me as a friend? What wrong did I do??

We can't read each other's minds, so asking us about what his distinct thoughts, feelings, and beliefs are on you is a waste of effort on your part, you likely will not get a very accurate or useful answer...all we can do is hold up the mirror you provided us with your stories.

But while we can't read his mind, we can ask you a few questions in return. Please consider them and respond if you wish.

Would someone who wants to be your friend, treat you like this?

Would you want someone who treats you like this to treat your child like this?

Would you want your child/lil sister to be treated like this?

Would you want a person who is interested in you to act in the way you have been acting which is volatile and wrathful, harassing, and demanding?

last question answer is i absolutely love that kind of person who is like me, because i see love in myself, i would love a get a despo like me❤️

Even if what you wanted was healthy, the virgo you are interested in is clearly not that person.

Beyond that, what about the other questions? Do you have answers for those?

Even further beyond that, what do you think desperation represents here?

deaperation here is feeling needed

Is that true? People are needed all the time in relationships but in non-desperate ways, desperation never even enters into the conversation I would like to ask you to reflect on that reality because need does not equal desperation...but those who are desperate definitely have unmet needs.

So I ask this instead...what is it that you are needing?

since i built a lot of love on him since an year. he loved me a lot before an year. we got 1 year break of not seeing each other. i broke him 1 year ago. he is breaking me now very brutally

Okay, but honestly what are you needing? Not from the Virgo, but in a relationship? What are the things you are needing?

i am needing his past love, i am needing his past caring nature for me

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We know. Unrequited love is very painful.

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Posted by Gem03

Posted by Ixi

@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

Why he don't want me as a friend? What wrong did I do??

We can't read each other's minds, so asking us about what his distinct thoughts, feelings, and beliefs are on you is a waste of effort on your part, you likely will not get a very accurate or useful answer...all we can do is hold up the mirror you provided us with your stories.

But while we can't read his mind, we can ask you a few questions in return. Please consider them and respond if you wish.

Would someone who wants to be your friend, treat you like this?

Would you want someone who treats you like this to treat your child like this?

Would you want your child/lil sister to be treated like this?

Would you want a person who is interested in you to act in the way you have been acting which is volatile and wrathful, harassing, and demanding?

last question answer is i absolutely love that kind of person who is like me, because i see love in myself, i would love a get a despo like me❤️

Even if what you wanted was healthy, the virgo you are interested in is clearly not that person.

Beyond that, what about the other questions? Do you have answers for those?

Even further beyond that, what do you think desperation represents here?

deaperation here is feeling needed

Is that true? People are needed all the time in relationships but in non-desperate ways, desperation never even enters into the conversation I would like to ask you to reflect on that reality because need does not equal desperation...but those who are desperate definitely have unmet needs.

So I ask this instead...what is it that you are needing?

since i built a lot of love on him since an year. he loved me a lot before an year. we got 1 year break of not seeing each other. i broke him 1 year ago. he is breaking me now very brutally

Okay, but honestly what are you needing? Not from the Virgo, but in a relationship? What are the things you are needing?

i am needing his past love, i am needing his past caring nature for me

I will restate, what do you need from a relationship, not from a relationship with the virgo you are focused on but on any romantic relationship...what is it that you need in a relationship to feel safe?

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i need this virgo man to still love me and care for me the way he done previously

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Posted by blackphvse

Posted by smiley_smiles

Posted by Ixi

Posted by smiley_smiles

Posted by Ixi

@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

I got it, but he needs to let me know the reasons, or what happened, and give me a proper closure instead of doing these shitty things to me

The thing is, he actually doesn't owe you closure.

He doesn't owe you an explanation, he doesn't need to catch you up on what happened, he has no responsibility to give you closure, he doesn't need to make sure you are okay, he doesn't have to make sure you don't hurt.He owes you none of that. You very much so owe that to yourself, however.

You may want him to come to account in order to make yourself feel better, but he is not responsible for you choosing to stay in discomfort. You are not his wife, he has no responsibility for you or how you feel... the closure you need is actually going to come from you. You will likely need to learn how to: affirm yourself, value yourself, soothe your hurts yourself and with those who want to be in connection with you.

Especially if he is not interested in maintaining a connection to you, which very much so seems to be the case.

You have to be responsible for your own closure when someone is unwilling or unable to give it.

If you persist it will be frustrating...like trying to draw water from a stone. The stone has none to give and you will be left feeling parched.

but the pisces man whom i had in my past is so heartwarming person. he never made me feel like shit. he always made me feel like a queen and he never insulted me not even as a joke and loved my desperation a lot..

So what happened to him then?

things went wrong at one point, and we mutually left each other

But you just said to Ixi "because once there is love, there should always be"

So why does that apply to the Virgo but not the Pisces?

yes, pisces man still loves me and cares for me, i love him and care for him too, but we are not in a relationship that's it. It's a pure kind of care

Sounds like this Pisces is the guy you need to be with - his feelings match yours.

he moved on and is in relationship with some other girl. I don't want to break them

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But if he's still in love with you he hasn't moved on. Get him back.

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Posted by smiley_smiles

Posted by blackphvse

Posted by smiley_smiles

Posted by Ixi

Posted by smiley_smiles

Posted by Ixi

@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

I got it, but he needs to let me know the reasons, or what happened, and give me a proper closure instead of doing these shitty things to me

The thing is, he actually doesn't owe you closure.

He doesn't owe you an explanation, he doesn't need to catch you up on what happened, he has no responsibility to give you closure, he doesn't need to make sure you are okay, he doesn't have to make sure you don't hurt.He owes you none of that. You very much so owe that to yourself, however.

You may want him to come to account in order to make yourself feel better, but he is not responsible for you choosing to stay in discomfort. You are not his wife, he has no responsibility for you or how you feel... the closure you need is actually going to come from you. You will likely need to learn how to: affirm yourself, value yourself, soothe your hurts yourself and with those who want to be in connection with you.

Especially if he is not interested in maintaining a connection to you, which very much so seems to be the case.

You have to be responsible for your own closure when someone is unwilling or unable to give it.

If you persist it will be frustrating...like trying to draw water from a stone. The stone has none to give and you will be left feeling parched.

but the pisces man whom i had in my past is so heartwarming person. he never made me feel like shit. he always made me feel like a queen and he never insulted me not even as a joke and loved my desperation a lot..

So what happened to him then?

things went wrong at one point, and we mutually left each other

But you just said to Ixi "because once there is love, there should always be"

So why does that apply to the Virgo but not the Pisces?

yes, pisces man still loves me and cares for me, i love him and care for him too, but we are not in a relationship that's it. It's a pure kind of care

Sounds like this Pisces is the guy you need to be with - his feelings match yours.

he moved on and is in relationship with some other girl. I don't want to break them

But if he's still in love with you he hasn't moved on. Get him back.

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that isn't fair for another girl

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Posted by Gem03

Posted by Ixi

@smiley_smiles

Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

Why he don't want me as a friend? What wrong did I do??

We can't read each other's minds, so asking us about what his distinct thoughts, feelings, and beliefs are on you is a waste of effort on your part, you likely will not get a very accurate or useful answer...all we can do is hold up the mirror you provided us with your stories.

But while we can't read his mind, we can ask you a few questions in return. Please consider them and respond if you wish.

Would someone who wants to be your friend, treat you like this?

Would you want someone who treats you like this to treat your child like this?

Would you want your child/lil sister to be treated like this?

Would you want a person who is interested in you to act in the way you have been acting which is volatile and wrathful, harassing, and demanding?

last question answer is i absolutely love that kind of person who is like me, because i see love in myself, i would love a get a despo like me❤️

Even if what you wanted was healthy, the virgo you are interested in is clearly not that person.

Beyond that, what about the other questions? Do you have answers for those?

Even further beyond that, what do you think desperation represents here?

deaperation here is feeling needed

Is that true? People are needed all the time in relationships but in non-desperate ways, desperation never even enters into the conversation I would like to ask you to reflect on that reality because need does not equal desperation...but those who are desperate definitely have unmet needs.

So I ask this instead...what is it that you are needing?

since i built a lot of love on him since an year. he loved me a lot before an year. we got 1 year break of not seeing each other. i broke him 1 year ago. he is breaking me now very brutally

Okay, but honestly what are you needing? Not from the Virgo, but in a relationship? What are the things you are needing?

i am needing his past love, i am needing his past caring nature for me

I will restate, what do you need from a relationship, not from a relationship with the virgo you are focused on but on any romantic relationship...what is it that you need in a relationship to feel safe?

i need this virgo man to still love me and care for me the way he done previously

That's the opposite of what he asked..

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i don't want to think of someone else when i already felt this virgo man's love a lot, i don't just like to increase my lovers list. i would like to stay loyal to this virgo man's past self

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Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

I got it, but he needs to let me know the reasons, or what happened, and give me a proper closure instead of doing these shitty things to me

The thing is, he actually doesn't owe you closure.

He doesn't owe you an explanation, he doesn't need to catch you up on what happened, he has no responsibility to give you closure, he doesn't need to make sure you are okay, he doesn't have to make sure you don't hurt.He owes you none of that. You very much so owe that to yourself, however.

You may want him to come to account in order to make yourself feel better, but he is not responsible for you choosing to stay in discomfort. You are not his wife, he has no responsibility for you or how you feel... the closure you need is actually going to come from you. You will likely need to learn how to: affirm yourself, value yourself, soothe your hurts yourself and with those who want to be in connection with you.

Especially if he is not interested in maintaining a connection to you, which very much so seems to be the case.

You have to be responsible for your own closure when someone is unwilling or unable to give it.

If you persist it will be frustrating...like trying to draw water from a stone. The stone has none to give and you will be left feeling parched.

but the pisces man whom i had in my past is so heartwarming person. he never made me feel like shit. he always made me feel like a queen and he never insulted me not even as a joke and loved my desperation a lot..

So what happened to him then?

things went wrong at one point, and we mutually left each other

But you just said to Ixi "because once there is love, there should always be"

So why does that apply to the Virgo but not the Pisces?

yes, pisces man still loves me and cares for me, i love him and care for him too, but we are not in a relationship that's it. It's a pure kind of care

Sounds like this Pisces is the guy you need to be with - his feelings match yours.

he moved on and is in relationship with some other girl. I don't want to break them

But if he's still in love with you he hasn't moved on. Get him back.

that isn't fair for another girl

Well you don't seem to care what is fair for the Virgo..

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at one point in my life earlier, last year this virgo man was very needy of me and i broke him and i realized my mistake and fallen head over heels for him now and now he is showing me his back

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Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

Why he don't want me as a friend? What wrong did I do??

We can't read each other's minds, so asking us about what his distinct thoughts, feelings, and beliefs are on you is a waste of effort on your part, you likely will not get a very accurate or useful answer...all we can do is hold up the mirror you provided us with your stories.

But while we can't read his mind, we can ask you a few questions in return. Please consider them and respond if you wish.

Would someone who wants to be your friend, treat you like this?

Would you want someone who treats you like this to treat your child like this?

Would you want your child/lil sister to be treated like this?

Would you want a person who is interested in you to act in the way you have been acting which is volatile and wrathful, harassing, and demanding?

last question answer is i absolutely love that kind of person who is like me, because i see love in myself, i would love a get a despo like me❤️

Even if what you wanted was healthy, the virgo you are interested in is clearly not that person.

Beyond that, what about the other questions? Do you have answers for those?

Even further beyond that, what do you think desperation represents here?

deaperation here is feeling needed

Is that true? People are needed all the time in relationships but in non-desperate ways, desperation never even enters into the conversation I would like to ask you to reflect on that reality because need does not equal desperation...but those who are desperate definitely have unmet needs.

So I ask this instead...what is it that you are needing?

since i built a lot of love on him since an year. he loved me a lot before an year. we got 1 year break of not seeing each other. i broke him 1 year ago. he is breaking me now very brutally

Okay, but honestly what are you needing? Not from the Virgo, but in a relationship? What are the things you are needing?

i am needing his past love, i am needing his past caring nature for me

I will restate, what do you need from a relationship, not from a relationship with the virgo you are focused on but on any romantic relationship...what is it that you need in a relationship to feel safe?

i need this virgo man to still love me and care for me the way he done previously

Do you consider yourself to be a respectful person?

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i am, but this virgo man pushed me too far by treating me wrong at every point

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Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

Homegirl is nuts, this is too nice. But regardless of the man's sign. If he wanted to he would. A man would move earth and heaven to be with the one he wants, I have seen it happen, and I have had it happen to me. There are some exceptions but this situation isn't. He doesn't want her, not even as a friend.

Desperation is disgusting regardless of gender or sign

Why he don't want me as a friend? What wrong did I do??

We can't read each other's minds, so asking us about what his distinct thoughts, feelings, and beliefs are on you is a waste of effort on your part, you likely will not get a very accurate or useful answer...all we can do is hold up the mirror you provided us with your stories.

But while we can't read his mind, we can ask you a few questions in return. Please consider them and respond if you wish.

Would someone who wants to be your friend, treat you like this?

Would you want someone who treats you like this to treat your child like this?

Would you want your child/lil sister to be treated like this?

Would you want a person who is interested in you to act in the way you have been acting which is volatile and wrathful, harassing, and demanding?

last question answer is i absolutely love that kind of person who is like me, because i see love in myself, i would love a get a despo like me❤️

Even if what you wanted was healthy, the virgo you are interested in is clearly not that person.

Beyond that, what about the other questions? Do you have answers for those?

Even further beyond that, what do you think desperation represents here?

deaperation here is feeling needed

Is that true? People are needed all the time in relationships but in non-desperate ways, desperation never even enters into the conversation I would like to ask you to reflect on that reality because need does not equal desperation...but those who are desperate definitely have unmet needs.

So I ask this instead...what is it that you are needing?

since i built a lot of love on him since an year. he loved me a lot before an year. we got 1 year break of not seeing each other. i broke him 1 year ago. he is breaking me now very brutally

Okay, but honestly what are you needing? Not from the Virgo, but in a relationship? What are the things you are needing?

i am needing his past love, i am needing his past caring nature for me

I will restate, what do you need from a relationship, not from a relationship with the virgo you are focused on but on any romantic relationship...what is it that you need in a relationship to feel safe?

i need this virgo man to still love me and care for me the way he done previously

That's the opposite of what he asked..

i don't want to think of someone else when i already felt this virgo man's love a lot, i don't just like to increase my lovers list. i would like to stay loyal to this virgo man's past self

He is not asking you to think of anyone else. He is asking you to think of YOU. And I think you have a hard time doing that.. that's why you obsess about other people the way you do.

He is asking what you want in a relationship. Period. Doesn't matter who it's with. Staying loyal to someone who doesn't want you is very counterproductive.

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why not ask him once directly on call for the truth whether he loves me or not, why just assume? maybe his brother replied me, his brother is very angry at the thought of just imagining the love between us. i think all these clashes between him and virgo man is due to his brother only

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Another Virgo man here...

I have been keeping a very loose eye on your threads for the past few months...and I have to say overall you likely need to back off.

I will start by saying, I understand that you're in pain, a bit lost, let down, angry, sad and hurt...with that acknowledgment I know that it is hard to just let it go.

While it may be hard to let go of him...you have to for your own sake.

You're violating boundaries (his, and believe it or not, yours) despite very significant signals that this relationship would not be a healthy one.

When you give no concern for his emotions and make it his responsibility to make sure you're okay you express selfishness, self-absorption, and emotional immaturity (it does not matter what your intent was or is) at the very minimum.

In the long run, you are setting yourself up for constant disappointment, dismissal, and maybe harm (emotionally, legally, god forbid but perhaps even physically given what you said).

The Virgo male archetype is cool-headed, practical, cautious, reserved...not prone to lose sight of himself even if he is very much so in love...you pressing him as you have likely pushed him away as your efforts smack of desperation and obsession and both of those ways of being are massive red flags to anyone who wants a healthy relationship.

When you refuse to accept what another person's wishes are for themselves (provided those wishes have nothing to do with you and does not harm them or others), you express disrespect of the other person's dignity.

As much as you may want to "convince" him all you're doing is embarrassing yourself and losing out on the opportunity to present yourself as mature and self-sufficient and to a certain degree damaging your self-esteem.

I got it, but he needs to let me know the reasons, or what happened, and give me a proper closure instead of doing these shitty things to me

The thing is, he actually doesn't owe you closure.

He doesn't owe you an explanation, he doesn't need to catch you up on what happened, he has no responsibility to give you closure, he doesn't need to make sure you are okay, he doesn't have to make sure you don't hurt.He owes you none of that. You very much so owe that to yourself, however.

You may want him to come to account in order to make yourself feel better, but he is not responsible for you choosing to stay in discomfort. You are not his wife, he has no responsibility for you or how you feel... the closure you need is actually going to come from you. You will likely need to learn how to: affirm yourself, value yourself, soothe your hurts yourself and with those who want to be in connection with you.

Especially if he is not interested in maintaining a connection to you, which very much so seems to be the case.

You have to be responsible for your own closure when someone is unwilling or unable to give it.

If you persist it will be frustrating...like trying to draw water from a stone. The stone has none to give and you will be left feeling parched.

but the pisces man whom i had in my past is so heartwarming person. he never made me feel like shit. he always made me feel like a queen and he never insulted me not even as a joke and loved my desperation a lot..

So what happened to him then?

things went wrong at one point, and we mutually left each other

But you just said to Ixi "because once there is love, there should always be"

So why does that apply to the Virgo but not the Pisces?

yes, pisces man still loves me and cares for me, i love him and care for him too, but we are not in a relationship that's it. It's a pure kind of care

Sounds like this Pisces is the guy you need to be with - his feelings match yours.

he moved on and is in relationship with some other girl. I don't want to break them

But if he's still in love with you he hasn't moved on. Get him back.

that isn't fair for another girl

Well you don't seem to care what is fair for the Virgo..

at one point in my life earlier, last year this virgo man was very needy of me and i broke him and i realized my mistake and fallen head over heels for him now and now he is showing me his back

I don't buy it

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I didn't understand. It was lyk only for one day I broke him harshly, he ended things between us, i ran back to him after an year of searching him, now he is treating me as if i don't even exist, don't know if this is intentional or someone else not letting him and me contact

Your emotional well-being is your responsibility and not his.