Your opinion on late-term abortions
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I'm curious about the results as well.
Posted a thread re: the governor of Virginia's comments and nothing.
You would think such a vocal community as DXP would voice their thoughts (well, feelings actually).
Posted a thread re: the governor of Virginia's comments and nothing.
You would think such a vocal community as DXP would voice their thoughts (well, feelings actually).
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
I'm curious about the results as well.
Posted a thread re: the governor of Virginia's comments and nothing.
You would think such a vocal community as DXP would voice their thoughts (well, feelings actually).
Yeah one would figure.
Hey, its hip, its edgy, its awesome.
It even got applause in New York State....
It even got applause in New York State....
Posted by Rxciriin
When the heart has started beating I already view the fetus as human being...so late-term abortion is like murder for me. It's different if abortion is done in the beginning of pregnancy. Before the heart beats, it's just growing lump of cells with no soul.
I don't agree. Except, if the pregnancy is life-threatening to the mother, or the baby is bound to be born with terrible abnormality that would make all of his/her life depend on others / medical treatment.
The later part is exactly what the law in NY was implemented for, life threatening risk to the baby or mother and in cases of the baby being stillborn, which if others have not experienced this tragedy please don't think its something that is easy to accept or move on from.
"The new law allows abortion under any of three conditions: (1) if it is performed earlier than 24 weeks of pregnancy; (2) in an “absence of fetal viability”; or (3) if necessary to “protect the patient’s life or health.” "
Personally i think it's individual persons choice in regards to abortions. I think it's life from the moment it's conceived, but that's my personal opinion and again its a choice for each person.
No i don't believe in them overall, but again i'm not going to judge someone else's choices in this matter.
So, a petition is in order for a pardon for Kermit Gosnell is in order:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell
Depends on the reason. If the baby is going to die or live a life of pain and suffering because of severe disability, then I think the parents should be allowed to choose if that's the life they want for themselves and their child. There's so much to consider like the burden on the siblings and also what happens to him/her when they die. They should be allowed to choose if they want that life.
If it's just because you don't want it or can't care for the baby for some other reason, then I'm against it. The baby should be put up for adoption to someone who can't have one.
If it's just because you don't want it or can't care for the baby for some other reason, then I'm against it. The baby should be put up for adoption to someone who can't have one.
Posted by Rxciriin
When the heart has started beating I already view the fetus as human being...so late-term abortion is like murder for me. It's different if abortion is done in the beginning of pregnancy. Before the heart beats, it's just growing lump of cells with no soul.
I don't agree. Except, if the pregnancy is life-threatening to the mother, or the baby is bound to be born with terrible abnormality that would make all of his/her life depend on others / medical treatment.
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
So, a petition is in order for a pardon for Kermit Gosnell is in order:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell
Kermit Gosnell should be executed by a firing squad for what he did.
It’s not my place to tell another woman she has to choose between getting a c-section or giving birth to her dead/dying baby. What kind of monster does that? Mostly ones with no female reproductive systems.
Is this topic about the movie...
Gosnell: The Trial of America's Biggest Serial Killer (2018)
"This police/court room drama is based on actual information on Dr. Kermit Gosnell (played by Earl Billings) who for decades ran a Philadelphia inner-city abortion clinic. In 2010, Philadelphia Police Detectives Wood (Dean Cain) and Stark (Alfonzo Rachel), with DEA and FBI agents, raid the clinic for evidence of illegal prescription drug sales. They are shocked by the clinic's filthy conditions, bags of aborted fetuses in hallways, and fetal body parts stored in a refrigerator. Interviewing clinic workers, they learn: patients are given anesthesia by untrained assistants; one patient died on the operating table from an anesthesia overdose; abortions were performed on babies older than 24 weeks; and some babies were delivered alive, after which Dr. Gosnell cut their spinal cord with scissors. The detectives take the bagged bodies to the coroner and bring the situation to the attention of DA Dan Molinari (Michael Beach)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell
The most shocking part about this case... this criminal was ignored for decades - despite of the huge pile of reports/complaints made against him - and the multitude of people who were aware of his actions. Both doctors and the authorities. And all that for the sake of being "politically correct (the biggest elephant in the room - when it comes to U.S.)". As in... they were afraid of ending-up on the wrong side of the Pro-Life and Pro-Choice movement - or being deemed/labeled as racists for going after him.🙄
Gosnell: The Trial of America's Biggest Serial Killer (2018)
"This police/court room drama is based on actual information on Dr. Kermit Gosnell (played by Earl Billings) who for decades ran a Philadelphia inner-city abortion clinic. In 2010, Philadelphia Police Detectives Wood (Dean Cain) and Stark (Alfonzo Rachel), with DEA and FBI agents, raid the clinic for evidence of illegal prescription drug sales. They are shocked by the clinic's filthy conditions, bags of aborted fetuses in hallways, and fetal body parts stored in a refrigerator. Interviewing clinic workers, they learn: patients are given anesthesia by untrained assistants; one patient died on the operating table from an anesthesia overdose; abortions were performed on babies older than 24 weeks; and some babies were delivered alive, after which Dr. Gosnell cut their spinal cord with scissors. The detectives take the bagged bodies to the coroner and bring the situation to the attention of DA Dan Molinari (Michael Beach)."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell
The most shocking part about this case... this criminal was ignored for decades - despite of the huge pile of reports/complaints made against him - and the multitude of people who were aware of his actions. Both doctors and the authorities. And all that for the sake of being "politically correct (the biggest elephant in the room - when it comes to U.S.)". As in... they were afraid of ending-up on the wrong side of the Pro-Life and Pro-Choice movement - or being deemed/labeled as racists for going after him.🙄
I think if it's for the reasons highlighted in the New York bill then of course it's fine and my opinion is irrelevant really.
If it's late term w/o that, which I imagine would be a highly unlikely scenario, it would make me uncomfortable personally but still it's not really my place either.
And though people have hard opinions and feelings on this subject (and that is ok) I'd ask those that are against abortion to think of it in way beyond just you and your personal comfort level. Imagine if you were a mother 5 or 6 months in pregnancy when you receive news that your child will likely not survive to birth due to a horrible disease. And if it survives it's living moments will be agonized pain before it inevitably dies within the hour. What would you do in that scenario?
And also keep in mind all the children born to parents, who should have had an abortion but didn't, who are abused and neglected every day of their life. If everyday is pain and suffering inflicted on you from the one person that should love you unconditionally, what kind of life is that.
Just something to consider.
If it's late term w/o that, which I imagine would be a highly unlikely scenario, it would make me uncomfortable personally but still it's not really my place either.
And though people have hard opinions and feelings on this subject (and that is ok) I'd ask those that are against abortion to think of it in way beyond just you and your personal comfort level. Imagine if you were a mother 5 or 6 months in pregnancy when you receive news that your child will likely not survive to birth due to a horrible disease. And if it survives it's living moments will be agonized pain before it inevitably dies within the hour. What would you do in that scenario?
And also keep in mind all the children born to parents, who should have had an abortion but didn't, who are abused and neglected every day of their life. If everyday is pain and suffering inflicted on you from the one person that should love you unconditionally, what kind of life is that.
Just something to consider.
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I don't have an opinion on what someone else chooses to do for their life. None of my business.
A woman can do whatever she wants with her body. The foundation has been laid to make anything possible.
If a woman wants to abort instead of giving the child a fighting chance, she can certainly do that. She will also be able to abort a “special needs” child instead of raising it.
Now, I’m cool with all this since it’s her right to choose. This has been advocated to happen for many years. Before the bashing starts and people say that’s not what it’s about........we all know that this is what it will become and will happen.
If a woman wants to abort instead of giving the child a fighting chance, she can certainly do that. She will also be able to abort a “special needs” child instead of raising it.
Now, I’m cool with all this since it’s her right to choose. This has been advocated to happen for many years. Before the bashing starts and people say that’s not what it’s about........we all know that this is what it will become and will happen.
Posted by ScorpioTruthPosted by FireStarter
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I talked about the procedure of what happens during an abortion and it can be unsettling to some and I don’t want to hurt or offend anyone who has gone through it so I would just rather not take part in conversations like this (I know I involved myself, just backing out is all lol) I understand that my opinion is just that and circumstances are different for everyone.click to expand
Ah I see, and that's fine. I just wanted to add that in the cases of this type of removal the fetus is not alive by the time of removal.
But again I don't want you or anyone else to feel like I'm attacking your feelings or position. It's just than in these tough conversations I think it's good to see all perspectives and put yourself in the other person shoes too. Cause it is a heavy situation for anyone, and I hope nobody has to go through it.
Personally i think it's individual persons choice in regards to abortions. I think it's life from the moment it's conceived, but that's my personal opinion and again its a choice for each person.
Posted by crazysioux
Imagine asshole sociopaths like Adolph Hitler
Interesting you mention that name.
Some sentiments, even some on this thread sound similar to sentiments from another era.
Not sure how many here, if any, are familiar with the term "Aktion T4".
I don't get the reason people feel the need to push their own opinions and agendas onto someone else in these matters.
Posted by nikkistar
I don't get the reason people feel the need to push their own opinions and agendas onto someone else in these matters.
There’s quite a few on here that like to try and “shame” you into their POV
Posted by tiziani
I don't have one.
The circumstances can be very different each time, as other posts have mentioned.
People feel the need to have an opinion but most times they need to be there first to know what they would do.
thanks, I can leave it at that - thinking about it is awful and I don't want to go there
Google images of "Harlequin babies".
Then get back to me.
Then get back to me.
Why men think their opinion on this matters is beyond me 😂
Posted by aPiscesPrincess2Posted by TheRabbit
My opinion is that it's not my place to have an opinion on it.
But what if you're the father of the late term fetus and the mother wants to have an abortion?click to expand
Should be more discerning on who you stick your dick in and nut up in.
If your not adult enough to ask her bout her views on abortion, your not adult enough to have a kid.
Her body, her choice.
Posted by TheRabbitPosted by LadyNeptune
Why men think their opinion on this matters is beyond me 😂
Obviously they're superior to you. YouTube confirms this.click to expand
Totes
Posted by hippiecrite
It’s not my place to tell another woman she has to choose between getting a c-section or giving birth to her dead/dying baby. What kind of monster does that? Mostly ones with no female reproductive systems.
Preach.
Semen has rights too!
Posted by ItsSupes
Semen has rights too!
Stop murderig your kids by masturbating into that Kleenex fam!!
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupes
Semen has rights too!
Stop murderig your kids by masturbating into that Kleenex fam!!click to expand
My semen, my choice where to dump it!
Ever notice how republican politicians are against abortion, until their mistress gets pregnant and they get her an abortion. Then they are still pro-life, just their own life.
Posted by LadyNeptune
Ever notice how republican politicians are against abortion, until their mistress gets pregnant. Then they are still pro-life, just their own life.
#shouldveusedthatkleenex
Posted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupes
Semen has rights too!
Stop murderig your kids by masturbating into that Kleenex fam!!
My semen, my choice where to dump it!click to expand
#spermlivesmattertoo
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupes
Semen has rights too!
Stop murderig your kids by masturbating into that Kleenex fam!!
My semen, my choice where to dump it!
#spermlivesmattertooclick to expand
#killthemall
#eggsaintshit
#dontleterrip
Posted by Dianna
If there is a chance that the baby can sustain life outside the womb, it is not abortion, it is murder.
And yet you voted for this dude??
I honestly don’t see how this isn’t treacherous to the left.
You’d think it would with all this #livesmatter stuff going on.
Literally screaming and protesting about babies being separated from their mothers at the border and dying but don’t give a fuck about one growing inside them.
I’m just being devils advocate here. Don’t take this as my own POV
You’d think it would with all this #livesmatter stuff going on.
Literally screaming and protesting about babies being separated from their mothers at the border and dying but don’t give a fuck about one growing inside them.
I’m just being devils advocate here. Don’t take this as my own POV
Posted by Black-Mamba
A woman carrying a baby that long is completely attached to the baby
you think it's easy on her to murder her own child?
We should have more empathy, she'll be destroyed for life
I wouldn't wish that on anybody
very difficult decision
Not to mention late term abortion has DRASTIC effects on fertility.
Posted by ItsSupes
I honestly don’t see how this isn’t treacherous to the left.
You’d think it would with all this #livesmatter stuff going on.
Literally screaming and protesting about babies being separated from their mothers at the border and dying but don’t give a fuck about one growing inside them.
I’m just being devils advocate here. Don’t take this as my own POV
The life of the mother matters more than a fetus.
My POV
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupes
I honestly don’t see how this isn’t treacherous to the left.
You’d think it would with all this #livesmatter stuff going on.
Literally screaming and protesting about babies being separated from their mothers at the border and dying but don’t give a fuck about one growing inside them.
I’m just being devils advocate here. Don’t take this as my own POV
The life of the mother matters more than a fetus.
My POVclick to expand
I can’t dispute that.
What if there’s a chance though? According to VA law that’s being debated the mother can abort while she’s dilating. Baby and mother alive.
Posted by Prince_PiscesPosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupes
Semen has rights too!
Stop murderig your kids by masturbating into that Kleenex fam!!
My semen, my choice where to dump it!
#spermlivesmattertoo
#killthemall
I read that as Kill The Mall, and almost got triggered.click to expand
Worry not my friend. Buckle and Claire’s is safe and sound
Posted by TheRabbitPosted by ItsSupes
I honestly don’t see how this isn’t treacherous to the left.
You’d think it would with all this #livesmatter stuff going on.
Literally screaming and protesting about babies being separated from their mothers at the border and dying but don’t give a fuck about one growing inside them.
I’m just being devils advocate here. Don’t take this as my own POV
It's treacherous to both sides. Both sides have s hand in the hypocritical cookie jar when it comes to abortion, but politicians use it as a wedge issue, nothing more.
click to expand
Nah man. It’s more than that.
A foundation is being laid and it’s a dangerous one. Especially in NY and VA. Other states are moving on this as well.
Posted by ItsSupesPosted by TheRabbitPosted by ItsSupes
I honestly don’t see how this isn’t treacherous to the left.
You’d think it would with all this #livesmatter stuff going on.
Literally screaming and protesting about babies being separated from their mothers at the border and dying but don’t give a fuck about one growing inside them.
I’m just being devils advocate here. Don’t take this as my own POV
It's treacherous to both sides. Both sides have s hand in the hypocritical cookie jar when it comes to abortion, but politicians use it as a wedge issue, nothing more.
Nah man. It’s more than that.
A foundation is being laid and it’s a dangerous one. Especially in NY and VA. Other states are moving on this as well.click to expand
One reason its being done for the 2020 election. The Democrats dont have anything to offer so it's way to energize their voter base. It also inflames the other side so that they can say "vote for us so that the MAGA hat wearing troglodytes dont force you have a chip implanted because they want to control your bodies".
Posted by TheRabbitPosted by ItsSupesPosted by TheRabbitPosted by ItsSupes
I honestly don’t see how this isn’t treacherous to the left.
You’d think it would with all this #livesmatter stuff going on.
Literally screaming and protesting about babies being separated from their mothers at the border and dying but don’t give a fuck about one growing inside them.
I’m just being devils advocate here. Don’t take this as my own POV
It's treacherous to both sides. Both sides have s hand in the hypocritical cookie jar when it comes to abortion, but politicians use it as a wedge issue, nothing more.
Nah man. It’s more than that.
A foundation is being laid and it’s a dangerous one. Especially in NY and VA. Other states are moving on this as well.
And how does it affect your life?click to expand
And like I said........this isn’t MY POV.
It could potentially affect millions of men’s lives
Posted by Rxciriin
When the heart has started beating I already view the fetus as human being...so late-term abortion is like murder for me. It's different if abortion is done in the beginning of pregnancy. Before the heart beats, it's just growing lump of cells with no soul.
I don't agree. Except, if the pregnancy is life-threatening to the mother, or the baby is bound to be born with terrible abnormality that would make all of his/her life depend on others / medical treatment.
Heart starts beating a few weeks in when 99% of women wouldn’t even know they’re pregnant as they haven’t even missed a period.
Posted by TheRabbitPosted by ItsSupesPosted by TheRabbitPosted by ItsSupesPosted by TheRabbitPosted by ItsSupes
I honestly don’t see how this isn’t treacherous to the left.
You’d think it would with all this #livesmatter stuff going on.
Literally screaming and protesting about babies being separated from their mothers at the border and dying but don’t give a fuck about one growing inside them.
I’m just being devils advocate here. Don’t take this as my own POV
It's treacherous to both sides. Both sides have s hand in the hypocritical cookie jar when it comes to abortion, but politicians use it as a wedge issue, nothing more.
Nah man. It’s more than that.
A foundation is being laid and it’s a dangerous one. Especially in NY and VA. Other states are moving on this as well.
And how does it affect your life?
And like I said........this isn’t MY POV.
It could potentially affect millions of men’s lives
Millions?
Hyperbolic much?click to expand
Nah, once laws like this go into effect it’s permanent. Say 50k/year over the next 50 years and well......
Posted by Prince_PiscesPosted by ItsSupesPosted by Prince_PiscesPosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupesPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by ItsSupes
Semen has rights too!
Stop murderig your kids by masturbating into that Kleenex fam!!
My semen, my choice where to dump it!
#spermlivesmattertoo
#killthemall
I read that as Kill The Mall, and almost got triggered.
Worry not my friend. Buckle and Claire’s is safe and sound
You really are from Texas LOL!click to expand
Yeeeeeehaaaaaa muddafucka!
But anyway
This is basically how I feel....it’s easy to say what you’d “never do” when you’re not faced with tragedy
Posted by tiziani
I don't have one.
The circumstances can be very different each time, as other posts have mentioned.
People feel the need to have an opinion but most times they need to be there first to know what they would do.
This is basically how I feel....it’s easy to say what you’d “never do” when you’re not faced with tragedy
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