Pisces Men - Do You Like and Need a Woman to Take Charge in the Relationship ? (Page 2)

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Posted by pooface222

Posted by Undine

Why are you people replying, if you didn't actually READ what she said? She keeps telling this story again and again, but almost everyone here got the facts wrong!

His divorce was not "a sacrifice". He left his wife and son long ago. He has been living with another woman, aka "his partner" for the past 6+ years. Probably still does. This woman has left her husband and two children to be with him.

Pooface, what is her star sign?

Thank you Undine.

I was thinking the same thing myself.

Who's star sign do you want to know?

Mine is Capricorn.

Hers (the partner who left her 2 kids to be with the Pisces guy), is Sagittarius.

I actually just wanted to know if Pisces men need a woman to take charge in a relationship.

Oh well..

Thanks for understanding though...

The answer to your question...

What they want is a strong woman. It is quite easy for a strong woman to drive their relationship forward. Pisces men want to please.

I wouldn't say this is something they "need" though. They could live their whole life in ambiguous relationships and wouldn't care.

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Thank you so much. I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my question straight-forwardly.

I feared this was the case. Hence why I asked the question.

I knew back then he wanted Me to drive the relationship forward. He never said but it was the way he seemed to be wanting guidance from me about how we get together when splitting from our partners.

So when he said "I'm getting a flat, maybe he was hinting that he wanted ME to go and get a flat for us, so said it as a way of telling me "You do it."

Now here's the thing.

I was strong enough, and confident enough to drive things forward for us.

I just didn't trust that he would leave his partner.

Maybe if I had just got a flat myself, he would have followed. My fear was that i do exactly that, just to have him get scared at confronting his partner that he's leaving her.

He doesn't do confrontation at all.

He'd rather drift and disappear.

I don't know.

I now think that he felt the same.

That I wouldn't leave my husband for him.

I mean Neither one of us were leaving because Both of us were waiting for the other one to leave.

Anyway..

This has been a very very difficult 6yrs ..and I'm very sad things have turned out the way they did.

My husbands control escalated to Bullying and Threats, to make me obey his demands, when I was on Maternity Leave with a weeks old baby.

I was scared of him for the first time.

I didn't know him anymore..

His Control was bad enough before pregnancy...frustrating at worst, but I found ways to manage him.

So as he has an Angel side, I focussed on that, while managing him.

I was deeply upset early on during maternity leave, as I just wanted to settle in to family life, and enjoy our new chapter with our baby.

I couldn't believe that what I actually had to deal with, was my husband screaming and shouting at me, almost daily, while I'd been up all night feeding our baby, and with no sleep, I hadn't the energy to fight him.

I just wanted to be happy.

Our life together had turned into a nightmare, and I felt like I was married to a stranger

And now we are divorced.

But despite me falling in love with someone else during this time (Pisces), I felt very sad indeed that my husband had pushed me so far away from him, that I had one foot out the door.

I was exhausted from managing his control for years.

Anyway..got to move forwards..

Thanks for listening everyone.. and trying to help.

Really appreciate the advice...

Posted by thinktankpisces951

Posted by pooface222

Anyway..

This has been a very very difficult 6yrs ..and I'm very sad things have turned out the way they did.

My husbands control escalated to Bullying and Threats, to make me obey his demands, when I was on Maternity Leave with a weeks old baby.

I was scared of him for the first time.

I didn't know him anymore..

His Control was bad enough before pregnancy...frustrating at worst, but I found ways to manage him.

So as he has an Angel side, I focussed on that, while managing him.

I was deeply upset early on during maternity leave, as I just wanted to settle in to family life, and enjoy our new chapter with our baby.

I couldn't believe that what I actually had to deal with, was my husband screaming and shouting at me, almost daily, while I'd been up all night feeding our baby, and with no sleep, I hadn't the energy to fight him.

I just wanted to be happy.

Our life together had turned into a nightmare, and I felt like I was married to a stranger

And now we are divorced.

But despite me falling in love with someone else during this time (Pisces), I felt very sad indeed that my husband had pushed me so far away from him, that I had one foot out the door.

I was exhausted from managing his control for years.

Anyway..got to move forwards..

Thanks for listening everyone.. and trying to help.

Really appreciate the advice...

You deserved it so mush. Its your chosen choice to stay, now what happen to you is the result of your decision. Is it not ?

You accuse the pisces intention is to make you a single mom, and accose so many disgusting trully evil thing on him and think of it as the truth, but look at you, still being a single mom, and none pisces fault in there lol. Talk about real karma.

And the door to your salvation already close, because the pisces already happy with another forever. Thank God he did it.

Pisces bought a home by himself so he and his family could live in there, you admit it he had a big salary than yours but you make things up so it looks like he will use people or whatever BS your imagination to make you look like a saint and everybody else an evil LOL.

Glad the pisces choose the best of the best choice of his life, than to stick around with this player... bad mouther... bad thought in a human form.

What you seek here is not help, but something you like to hear, something which support your argument or your thought.

You seek be with your husband meanwhile get pisces love for free, now you lose both.

Thank God, Glad to see you get what you deserve.

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And who are you to judge her? You seem to take a LOT of pleasure in someone else's misery!

Didn't your f-king "God" told you to love your fellow humans, bitch? That we'll get "what we deserve" after we die, and NOT during our lives?

You FAILED your own beliefs!

Or...you are a hypocrite.

I think I've only met one pisces who seemed to come close to what the word " Man " is.

And of course that was the one I never got with lol

Pooface...love does NOT conquer all. Security and responsibility are equally important!

You wouldn't have been able to buy a house for "four" in 2016-2018, aka a house with at least 3 beds, while you were married with someone else, had a small child AND no proper income! Should you have gone with your plan, you could have ended up losing your child and any rights to a payout from your husband! No savings, no income (or a low paying job after 10+ years of being a housewife) and no assets! How do you think a bank would approve your 50% mortgage?

If you want to move forward, first count your blessings:

1) You came out of a 3 year divorce and are free of your controlling and abusing husband

2) You've got a young child to look after, love and be loved in return.

3) You've got an important divorce settlement, your flat! I hope that you own it outright, and not just your ex is paying your mortgage! Because he can stop paying it when you get a boyfriend!

4) You can love another man without being labelled a cheater!

You are in a far better position now than at any time during the past 6 years.

Yes, I believe you can get your Pisces if you want to. You don't seem to be able to get over your obsession with him, until you replace his "partner". Are you sure his partner is a woman? His default role in bed and dick fantasies suggest he is bisexual.

If you want him, talk to him. Start making plans together. Is the house he bought large enough for 4 people?

--If yes, does he want you and your child to move in there? If yes, would he be able to support both of you financially for at least one year, until you sell your flat and get a proper job?

--If not, should you two be selling what you have now, and buy a larger house with 50-50 ownership? Would he be able to pay 100% mortgage until you get a proper job?

--How are you getting back to a proper job?

As for Pisces leaving you or cheating on you....You either accept the risk or you don't. If you do, you need to trust your relationship. Shit, or get off the pot 😉

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Then he got divorced while he was seeing me behind ihs partners back!

I don't think he was ever taking you that serious if he was seeing you behind his ex wives back.

At that point they are no longer together either physically or legally.

Thats the equivalent of a dude keeping you a secret from friends and family.

He wasn't yet divorced when he moved into another woman's home (the "partner"). He was cheating on his wife with his "partner", and soon after he was cheating on his partner with Pooface!

I understand the sequence of events. However AFTER he had divorced his wife and was living there platonically (so he claims) and then even now as he has moved out and purchased a house to live with his son... he still is seeing her behind his ex-wife's back. Why is that?

Why has he not come clean and told the people in his live about pooface??

Is he ashamed of her?

Does he have someone else?

Is he not that serious about the relationship?

Whatever the reason... its not good.

I have no idea either!

I think he is weak. He actually admitted this a few years ago. He said "I'm very insecure..and weak." I didnt believe him at first. Until I started seeing it.

Last month he came to my house for coffee briefly and I said to him ..

"If you are going to live with your son, what are you going to tell your partner? Have you told her?"

He replied..

"I think I'll just wait until I've settled down there and tell her I've settled now."

So in other words he will keep her guessing, leave her hanging and just drift out of her life because he lacks the balls to tell her straight!

I then said to him..

"What about us? Would you like to move in with me.?"

I mean fgs its been 6yrs so ..

He replied..

"Not straight away and not for more than 3 days a week."

So I am as lost as I was the first year he was in my life.

He has been divorced 4 years!!

But instead of leaving his partner and starting our life together, he sat around (4yrs ago), waiting for me to start divorce with ZERO guarantee he would actually leave his partner for me.

I couldn't take that risk.

I'm now wishing I had just Said "I'm divorcing my husband." But not actually done it.

Just to see if he leaves his partner.

Then...if he does then i could start divorce.

FML !

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He is weak. And he uses women to be a financial and emotional crutch while looking for his next target. And he targets those who would be more open to this manipulation. In your case, unhappy in your marriage, young child to look after, feeling like your options are limited and grateful for his attention.

To answer your thread tittle tho, no this is not a Pisces man trait. This is a user trait.

Also if you own that flat outright DO NOT SELL IT!!

Move in to the Pisces home sure. Rent your flat and contribute financially to the household.

But don't sell the one piece of financial stability you have for your child. When the relationship implodes and he replaces you with #10085 side ho, you'll need a place to retreat to.

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Seems "that away". OP, are you from the south? Feels like I'm listening to a family member.

Aww no..its a typo. I'm from the UK.

I have a friend from Texas who I message and I find myself copying the way she writes though.

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Posted by Undine

Posted by thinktankpisces951

Posted by pooface222

Anyway..

This has been a very very difficult 6yrs ..and I'm very sad things have turned out the way they did.

My husbands control escalated to Bullying and Threats, to make me obey his demands, when I was on Maternity Leave with a weeks old baby.

I was scared of him for the first time.

I didn't know him anymore..

His Control was bad enough before pregnancy...frustrating at worst, but I found ways to manage him.

So as he has an Angel side, I focussed on that, while managing him.

I was deeply upset early on during maternity leave, as I just wanted to settle in to family life, and enjoy our new chapter with our baby.

I couldn't believe that what I actually had to deal with, was my husband screaming and shouting at me, almost daily, while I'd been up all night feeding our baby, and with no sleep, I hadn't the energy to fight him.

I just wanted to be happy.

Our life together had turned into a nightmare, and I felt like I was married to a stranger

And now we are divorced.

But despite me falling in love with someone else during this time (Pisces), I felt very sad indeed that my husband had pushed me so far away from him, that I had one foot out the door.

I was exhausted from managing his control for years.

Anyway..got to move forwards..

Thanks for listening everyone.. and trying to help.

Really appreciate the advice...

You deserved it so mush. Its your chosen choice to stay, now what happen to you is the result of your decision. Is it not ?

You accuse the pisces intention is to make you a single mom, and accose so many disgusting trully evil thing on him and think of it as the truth, but look at you, still being a single mom, and none pisces fault in there lol. Talk about real karma.

And the door to your salvation already close, because the pisces already happy with another forever. Thank God he did it.

Pisces bought a home by himself so he and his family could live in there, you admit it he had a big salary than yours but you make things up so it looks like he will use people or whatever BS your imagination to make you look like a saint and everybody else an evil LOL.

Glad the pisces choose the best of the best choice of his life, than to stick around with this player... bad mouther... bad thought in a human form.

What you seek here is not help, but something you like to hear, something which support your argument or your thought.

You seek be with your husband meanwhile get pisces love for free, now you lose both.

Thank God, Glad to see you get what you deserve.

And who are you to judge her? You seem to take a LOT of pleasure in someone else's misery!

Didn't your f-king "God" told you to love your fellow humans, bitch? That we'll get "what we deserve" after we die, and NOT during our lives?

You FAILED your own beliefs!

Or...you are a hypocrite.

You POS talk about "judging people", and look at you ? did the same thing to me. Is it me or you the one who hipocrite ? ask that to your tiny little brain. And if your brain got it right then you will realize its you who hippocrite.

"a LOT of pleasure in someone else's misery" do you have any brain or what ? have you seen me take pleasure to every misery post in here ? i think you watch movie too much so your act really dramatic.

Yes, i take pleasure seeing those make other suffer, suffer.

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Thanks for the Entertainment 🥳

Keep going.

I'll get the Popcorn out.

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Posted by pooface222

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Posted by Undine

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Posted by pooface222

Then he got divorced while he was seeing me behind ihs partners back!

I don't think he was ever taking you that serious if he was seeing you behind his ex wives back.

At that point they are no longer together either physically or legally.

Thats the equivalent of a dude keeping you a secret from friends and family.

He wasn't yet divorced when he moved into another woman's home (the "partner"). He was cheating on his wife with his "partner", and soon after he was cheating on his partner with Pooface!

I understand the sequence of events. However AFTER he had divorced his wife and was living there platonically (so he claims) and then even now as he has moved out and purchased a house to live with his son... he still is seeing her behind his ex-wife's back. Why is that?

Why has he not come clean and told the people in his live about pooface??

Is he ashamed of her?

Does he have someone else?

Is he not that serious about the relationship?

Whatever the reason... its not good.

I have no idea either!

I think he is weak. He actually admitted this a few years ago. He said "I'm very insecure..and weak." I didnt believe him at first. Until I started seeing it.

Last month he came to my house for coffee briefly and I said to him ..

"If you are going to live with your son, what are you going to tell your partner? Have you told her?"

He replied..

"I think I'll just wait until I've settled down there and tell her I've settled now."

So in other words he will keep her guessing, leave her hanging and just drift out of her life because he lacks the balls to tell her straight!

I then said to him..

"What about us? Would you like to move in with me.?"

I mean fgs its been 6yrs so ..

He replied..

"Not straight away and not for more than 3 days a week."

So I am as lost as I was the first year he was in my life.

He has been divorced 4 years!!

But instead of leaving his partner and starting our life together, he sat around (4yrs ago), waiting for me to start divorce with ZERO guarantee he would actually leave his partner for me.

I couldn't take that risk.

I'm now wishing I had just Said "I'm divorcing my husband." But not actually done it.

Just to see if he leaves his partner.

Then...if he does then i could start divorce.

FML !

He is weak. And he uses women to be a financial and emotional crutch while looking for his next target. And he targets those who would be more open to this manipulation. In your case, unhappy in your marriage, young child to look after, feeling like your options are limited and grateful for his attention.

To answer your thread tittle tho, no this is not a Pisces man trait. This is a user trait.

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Thanks so much for your reply. Really appreciate it x

He does strike me as a user despite his charisma and romantic ways. Especially when staying with his partner to save up money.

When I said "doesnt your partner ask you about all of your money?"

He said.."Yeeaah..But.."

Then shrugged his shoulders.

I said "But what..?"

He just looked at the floor and made some disparaging comment about her expecting him to do xyz.

He lives in her house after she divorced her husband to be with him.

He was living and sleeping in his car, so he basically went from the streets, to her house.

Anyway..you know the story lol..

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Also if you own that flat outright DO NOT SELL IT!!

Move in to the Pisces home sure. Rent your flat and contribute financially to the household.

But don't sell the one piece of financial stability you have for your child. When the relationship implodes and he replaces you with #10085 side ho, you'll need a place to retreat to.

Absolutely! Its mine so no way.

He has moved to his house with his son I believe.

I don't know. We haven't spoken much.

He probably already has a side ho or 1000 lol so yeah when that blows up, not my problem.

I offerred him a stable life 4yrs ago where we move in together and share the rent etc to see if we can live together.

But..he didn't seem to want that.

He came over for coffee in the last month. I explained to him just how much money he had 4yrs ago and how with me getting a 2nd job,we could have shared the cost of living etc.

He replied..quietly..with his eyes half-closed and looking away..

"I had lots of debts to pay off."

Hmmm..First time he's ever mentioned debts.

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Posted by pooface222

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Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by pooface222

Then he got divorced while he was seeing me behind ihs partners back!

I don't think he was ever taking you that serious if he was seeing you behind his ex wives back.

At that point they are no longer together either physically or legally.

Thats the equivalent of a dude keeping you a secret from friends and family.

He wasn't yet divorced when he moved into another woman's home (the "partner"). He was cheating on his wife with his "partner", and soon after he was cheating on his partner with Pooface!

I understand the sequence of events. However AFTER he had divorced his wife and was living there platonically (so he claims) and then even now as he has moved out and purchased a house to live with his son... he still is seeing her behind his ex-wife's back. Why is that?

Why has he not come clean and told the people in his live about pooface??

Is he ashamed of her?

Does he have someone else?

Is he not that serious about the relationship?

Whatever the reason... its not good.

I have no idea either!

I think he is weak. He actually admitted this a few years ago. He said "I'm very insecure..and weak." I didnt believe him at first. Until I started seeing it.

Last month he came to my house for coffee briefly and I said to him ..

"If you are going to live with your son, what are you going to tell your partner? Have you told her?"

He replied..

"I think I'll just wait until I've settled down there and tell her I've settled now."

So in other words he will keep her guessing, leave her hanging and just drift out of her life because he lacks the balls to tell her straight!

I then said to him..

"What about us? Would you like to move in with me.?"

I mean fgs its been 6yrs so ..

He replied..

"Not straight away and not for more than 3 days a week."

So I am as lost as I was the first year he was in my life.

He has been divorced 4 years!!

But instead of leaving his partner and starting our life together, he sat around (4yrs ago), waiting for me to start divorce with ZERO guarantee he would actually leave his partner for me.

I couldn't take that risk.

I'm now wishing I had just Said "I'm divorcing my husband." But not actually done it.

Just to see if he leaves his partner.

Then...if he does then i could start divorce.

FML !

He is weak. And he uses women to be a financial and emotional crutch while looking for his next target. And he targets those who would be more open to this manipulation. In your case, unhappy in your marriage, young child to look after, feeling like your options are limited and grateful for his attention.

To answer your thread tittle tho, no this is not a Pisces man trait. This is a user trait.

Thanks so much for your reply. Really appreciate it x

He does strike me as a user despite his charisma and romantic ways. Especially when staying with his partner to save up money.

When I said "doesnt your partner ask you about all of your money?"

He said.."Yeeaah..But.."

Then shrugged his shoulders.

I said "But what..?"

He just looked at the floor and made some disparaging comment about her expecting him to do xyz.

He lives in her house after she divorced her husband to be with him.

He was living and sleeping in his car, so he basically went from the streets, to her house.

Anyway..you know the story lol..

Is made up something bad about him, make him looks evil in your mind make you feel better ? make you feel a little less guilty as to what you did to him make him divorce with his wife back then ?

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I love it when you get your facts wrong!

His Wife Divorced HIM!

HE had already walked out on her 13yrs ago, and met his partner - who he has been with for 13yrs.

The wife only divorced him 5yrs ago and now he has been divorced 4yrs.

I have no idea what is going on between him and his partner but from the conversations he's had with me, I don't think he is being straight with her either.

I really dont know why you are so angry.

Everyone else here is being helpful.

Oh well..

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Talking and planning for the future is definitely a motivator for pieces👍

However, like what everyone else pointed out he made no serious effort.

I assume you guys had already talked this over multiple times and basically were on the same page correct? And it sounds like he put all the risk on your shoulders Despite being the one with the most flexabilty to make it happen?

If so, ya he is at fault here since he had the ability to pull it off and put in no real effort. Calmly point that out to him if it comes up.

If there was no real communication and baseless self-serving assumption, you both share blame. You are both imperfect people and share blame in this miscommunication.As well as a life lesson.

Forgive yourselves and learn from it.

Make amends or move on.

Thank you so so much!

This is what I was hoping people would say.

I personally put the blame on both of us because as I said in reply to someone else here, think, we were both scared to leave our partners in case the other one didnt.

We both crave security. So both were reluctant to let it go by leaving.

So maybe it was self-serving on both sides.

You're right.

However..

4yrs ago (2016) ,when he became divorced (I was still married)? I suggested we Rent together just while my divorce goes through.

So once divorced we can hopefully buy a house together.

He replied...

"I dont want to rent."

🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

So how else could we be together??

It was only while i got divorced.

He also said "I cant afford to buy."

So back then I felt utterly STUCK where I was...seeing him behind my husbands back!

And i didnt want that. I wanted him properly.

He wouldn't rent.

Said he couldn't afford to buy so...

What was left ??

Ya this wasn't a black and white situation but that last part... is on him. He set terms he Supposily couldn't do then did not seek a alternative with you🤦

Exactly.

Hence my confusion..

He left us Stuck.

Unless I made it happen.

I wanted US to make it happen.

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So we came back full circle. Obviously this issue isn't black in white.

I would say on his end he could have put in a lot more effort to make it happen when this challenge presented itself. Actions speak louder then words yes? How much did he really want this to happen?

As far as you are concerned, you know the amount of effort you made and supported this happening. It's unrealistic and not fair to punish yourself in any way in hindsight. If there is something you learned you could have done or tried differently that's great BUT don't take more of this on your shoulders that is rightfully yours. You did really try on your end right? Take the lessons of the past not the pain.

On a side note, just about everyone responds well to positive reenforcement and encouragement. Yes other People may have a soft spot for particular kinds. Even cracking a verbal whip like a drill sergeant is a preference to a few lol.

A sign of great couple support is the ability to support each other in difficult times in some way.

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Posted by thinktankpisces951

Posted by pooface222

Anyway..

This has been a very very difficult 6yrs ..and I'm very sad things have turned out the way they did.

My husbands control escalated to Bullying and Threats, to make me obey his demands, when I was on Maternity Leave with a weeks old baby.

I was scared of him for the first time.

I didn't know him anymore..

His Control was bad enough before pregnancy...frustrating at worst, but I found ways to manage him.

So as he has an Angel side, I focussed on that, while managing him.

I was deeply upset early on during maternity leave, as I just wanted to settle in to family life, and enjoy our new chapter with our baby.

I couldn't believe that what I actually had to deal with, was my husband screaming and shouting at me, almost daily, while I'd been up all night feeding our baby, and with no sleep, I hadn't the energy to fight him.

I just wanted to be happy.

Our life together had turned into a nightmare, and I felt like I was married to a stranger

And now we are divorced.

But despite me falling in love with someone else during this time (Pisces), I felt very sad indeed that my husband had pushed me so far away from him, that I had one foot out the door.

I was exhausted from managing his control for years.

Anyway..got to move forwards..

Thanks for listening everyone.. and trying to help.

Really appreciate the advice...

You deserved it so mush. Its your chosen choice to stay, now what happen to you is the result of your decision. Is it not ?

You accuse the pisces intention is to make you a single mom, and accose so many disgusting trully evil thing on him and think of it as the truth, but look at you, still being a single mom, and none pisces fault in there lol. Talk about real karma.

And the door to your salvation already close, because the pisces already happy with another forever. Thank God he did it.

Pisces bought a home by himself so he and his family could live in there, you admit it he had a big salary than yours but you make things up so it looks like he will use people or whatever BS your imagination to make you look like a saint and everybody else an evil LOL.

Glad the pisces choose the best of the best choice of his life, than to stick around with this player... bad mouther... bad thought in a human form.

What you seek here is not help, but something you like to hear, something which support your argument or your thought.

You seek be with your husband meanwhile get pisces love for free, now you lose both.

Thank God, Glad to see you get what you deserve.

And who are you to judge her? You seem to take a LOT of pleasure in someone else's misery!

Didn't your f-king "God" told you to love your fellow humans, bitch? That we'll get "what we deserve" after we die, and NOT during our lives?

You FAILED your own beliefs!

Or...you are a hypocrite.

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Thank you..really appreciate you saying that to him.

I don't understand his anger or Maliciousness.

I only asked a question.

It was just a very hard decision for me to make, with a small child and emotionally abusive husband.

I was very scared and alone, and made some wrong decisions..sadly.

@pooface222 did you just put me and him in the same bracket?

You know what happens when you liken me to an overgrown tragic manchild with embarrassing mommy issues? Huh?? You know what happens when you got them rose glasses pushed too far into your eyeballs that you can't ever take them off? Hmm??



I got far too much self respect to live off anyone, and I would never use anyone like that, particularly because I've been used far too many times in the past myself and I know full well how much it sucks. So I wouldn't do it to someone else.

And yeah I'm fully aware of how adorable I am, but it's early days and I'm definitely not allowing myself to get ahead and make any assumptions about what the Scorp is feeling. Talk is cheap, and I learned that full well from my fullofshit Leo ex. But this isn't about me.

This is about you being played like a fiddle by a tragic overgrown manchild with mommy issues and a thirst for validation from hot women. Simply because he doesn't give a damn about how all this has affected you, and he's only concerned with quenching his thirst for validation from anyone willing to give him the time of day.

Far be it for me to judge anyone's kinky habits in the sac, but sexual roleplay is not supposed to cross over into everyday life. There's a time and place for everything, and during the day you're both supposed to be a responsible adult. You're parents for crying out loud, you're not in high school. But he clearly doesn't know that.

So what do you really want to get out of this, a man you can trust to take care of matters alongside you, or a tragic little boy to mother alongside your own toddler? He's incapable of supporting you in any adult capacity. Nevermind managing to keep up with your adult plans for a shared mortgage. I wouldn't frikkin trust him with a toothpick, let alone my financial security!

And aside from that, what, you think the chick he's living with is just gonna graciously step away and let you pick up where she's left off? Or do you think you're the only one he's batting his eyelids at?

Yeah this is love, but it's a fantasy. I was insanely in love too once upon a time, but even then I knew it wouldn't last forever. And when it became too detrimental to handle, I had to get him out of my heart and my head to save my sanity and my life. That's exactly what I did today. Moved out for good, and after he stopped crying long enough to ask me if he's ever gonna see me again, my answer to which was "not if I can help it", followed by "lose my number".

And you know what I learned from all that? That NOONE is worth your sanity or your life, no matter how hot he is. YOU come first.

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@pooface222 did you just put me and him in the same bracket?

You know what happens when you liken me to an overgrown tragic manchild with embarrassing mommy issues? Huh?? You know what happens when you got them rose glasses pushed too far into your eyeballs that you can't ever take them off? Hmm??



I got far too much self respect to live off anyone, and I would never use anyone like that, particularly because I've been used far too many times in the past myself and I know full well how much it sucks. So I wouldn't do it to someone else.

And yeah I'm fully aware of how adorable I am, but it's early days and I'm definitely not allowing myself to get ahead and make any assumptions about what the Scorp is feeling. Talk is cheap, and I learned that full well from my fullofshit Leo ex. But this isn't about me.

This is about you being played like a fiddle by a tragic overgrown manchild with mommy issues and a thirst for validation from hot women. Simply because he doesn't give a damn about how all this has affected you, and he's only concerned with quenching his thirst for validation from anyone willing to give him the time of day.

Far be it for me to judge anyone's kinky habits in the sac, but sexual roleplay is not supposed to cross over into everyday life. There's a time and place for everything, and during the day you're both supposed to be a responsible adult. You're parents for crying out loud, you're not in high school. But he clearly doesn't know that.

So what do you really want to get out of this, a man you can trust to take care of matters alongside you, or a tragic little boy to mother alongside your own toddler? He's incapable of supporting you in any adult capacity. Nevermind managing to keep up with your adult plans for a shared mortgage. I wouldn't frikkin trust him with a toothpick, let alone my financial security!

And aside from that, what, you think the chick he's living with is just gonna graciously step away and let you pick up where she's left off? Or do you think you're the only one he's batting his eyelids at?

Yeah this is love, but it's a fantasy. I was insanely in love too once upon a time, but even then I knew it wouldn't last forever. And when it became too detrimental to handle, I had to get him out of my heart and my head to save my sanity and my life. That's exactly what I did today. Moved out for good, and after he stopped crying long enough to ask me if he's ever gonna see me again, my answer to which was "not if I can help it", followed by "lose my number".

And you know what I learned from all that? That NOONE is worth your sanity or your life, no matter how hot he is. YOU come first.

OOPS NOOOI. no no no no.

Really sorry!

I was trying to say (very badly), how much I love him, in the way that you love your man..eg very deeply.

It was about how deeply we love someone.

HUGE apologies if I sounded like I was comparing you to him.



Noo way x

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Posted by MyStarsShine

You did the right thing by putting your child first

He sounds like a flaky mess..

Try not to beat yourself up ❤️

What’s putting child in the nursery means?

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Child care facility pre school

Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShow

@pooface222 did you just put me and him in the same bracket?

You know what happens when you liken me to an overgrown tragic manchild with embarrassing mommy issues? Huh?? You know what happens when you got them rose glasses pushed too far into your eyeballs that you can't ever take them off? Hmm??



I got far too much self respect to live off anyone, and I would never use anyone like that, particularly because I've been used far too many times in the past myself and I know full well how much it sucks. So I wouldn't do it to someone else.

And yeah I'm fully aware of how adorable I am, but it's early days and I'm definitely not allowing myself to get ahead and make any assumptions about what the Scorp is feeling. Talk is cheap, and I learned that full well from my fullofshit Leo ex. But this isn't about me.

This is about you being played like a fiddle by a tragic overgrown manchild with mommy issues and a thirst for validation from hot women. Simply because he doesn't give a damn about how all this has affected you, and he's only concerned with quenching his thirst for validation from anyone willing to give him the time of day.

Far be it for me to judge anyone's kinky habits in the sac, but sexual roleplay is not supposed to cross over into everyday life. There's a time and place for everything, and during the day you're both supposed to be a responsible adult. You're parents for crying out loud, you're not in high school. But he clearly doesn't know that.

So what do you really want to get out of this, a man you can trust to take care of matters alongside you, or a tragic little boy to mother alongside your own toddler? He's incapable of supporting you in any adult capacity. Nevermind managing to keep up with your adult plans for a shared mortgage. I wouldn't frikkin trust him with a toothpick, let alone my financial security!

And aside from that, what, you think the chick he's living with is just gonna graciously step away and let you pick up where she's left off? Or do you think you're the only one he's batting his eyelids at?

Yeah this is love, but it's a fantasy. I was insanely in love too once upon a time, but even then I knew it wouldn't last forever. And when it became too detrimental to handle, I had to get him out of my heart and my head to save my sanity and my life. That's exactly what I did today. Moved out for good, and after he stopped crying long enough to ask me if he's ever gonna see me again, my answer to which was "not if I can help it", followed by "lose my number".

And you know what I learned from all that? That NOONE is worth your sanity or your life, no matter how hot he is. YOU come first.

I've just read the rest of your post.

I first had to apologise for the misunderstanding. Bows head in shame.

You moved out today? Wow!

Congratulations!

With this Pisces guy, you are right. He is a man-child with mummy issues, and definitely wants a woman to take care of everything. He even admitted 2 months ago on the phone..

"It was up to you to make us happen."

(Sorry if I already said this to you).

It annoyed me to hear him say that.

I am a person who believes it is up to Both people making a rship happen.

You both put effort in to be together. As you said "It takes Two to Tango." Otherwise you are a mother providing for an (adult) child.

Having said that..

I actually don't mind a man depending on me for everything, because despite being an apparently cold Capricorn - and I have a lot of Cap in my chart - Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars - I am big softie who likes to care for a man's emotional needs especially, as well as lots of cuddles and flirting.

BUT...

Only once we are in a relationship with each other. When me and a man are wanting to get together, its about both of us making the effort, as I said earlier here.

Then once together properly, a man can depend on me all he likes x

I'm also pissed off that he needed me more than anything when his life was a mess. My life was fine.

I had a good secure life but..it was the relationship inside my life that was the problem (but enough about that).

So i thought I'd leave the rship and start a new life with Pisces and then share our child between me and the ex.

However over time, my life is now a fucking mess, meaning I am struggling emotionally (hence coming on here).. Pisces has lived off his partner keeping his money to himself, while living in her house for almost free and complaining about her wanting to spend some of his money on bills. Then gone off to live with his son of 20yrs old, an hour and a half away where he has bought a house with money saved up while living with her (plus divorce money).

So now his life is fine, he doesn't care.

And looking back...he never did.

He cared about his own feelings and needs while he was in a mess. And wanted me to do everything..just like his partner did.

(She divorced her husband. Got a place of her own, then he moved from his Car to her house.

So effectively she threw away all her security just to get used financially and to get cheated on too).

So i suggested we move in together as you know, and to start small with renting. Sharing our life, money and most importantly Love.

So I was hurt and confused when he wouldnt work with me to make us happen (4yrs ago).

I just wanted Us to work together, to build our life together 😥

You asked what I want/wanted from this. There it is 👆

And yes..you're right. He can't even do that.

I put effort in by telling him how we can build our life but he kept making excuses. And he wondered why I wasn't leaving my husband for him!

My husband nay be controlling but ill tell you this..on the positive, he was committed to the rship and marriage, and did everything he said he would, he was consistent and you could trust him. He paid for everything too. Most of the mortgage, bills, holidays and bought me a car.

Pisces COMPLAINED SO MUCH about having to pay bills and holidays for him and his partner!?

Pisces would then vanish on me for weeks to months! Then reappear like he'd never been away!?

It took me a few times with him doing this, to make me realise he was doing this to make me leave my husband.

So when he reappeared, it was to see if things had changed.

Errr no. Once he vanished, I lost trust in him.

Anyway...as you said I do think he is batting his eyelids at someone else, I used to turn a blind eye to him chatting up other girls in my classes as I didn't want to come off as jealous and insecure.

I hope your Scorpio man is the One for you ❤

Scorpio and Pisces are meant to be good.

Posted by GemiAwesomeAss

Posted by MyStarsShine

You did the right thing by putting your child first

He sounds like a flaky mess..

Try not to beat yourself up ❤️

What’s putting child in the nursery means?

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Hi..

Nursery meaning a place where young children are looked after while the parents work.

Therefore I was saying that to sort my life out somehow, I would need a 2nd job, but to do that I would need to put my child in nursery. Or get a childminder.

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Posted by pooface222

Posted by thinktankpisces951

Posted by pooface222

First of all...

I apologise if I have already asked this question on here.

I want to know if Pisces men Need a woman to make the relationship develop by eg talking about living together and talking about houses etc and making appointments to view houses etc because lets say you've reached that stage.

I'm asking because I fear I seriously messed up and lost my relationship with a gorgeous pisces guy by not making those things happen for us.

It was tricky though because he was in a rship and unhappy. They were also living in HER house together.

He was still married to his ex-wife but separated.

Then he got divorced while he was seeing me behind ihs partners back!

COMPLICATED!

I was married and in a very controlling and lonely rship and with a child.

I wanted to leave but was scared about co-parenting.

So it wasn't a simple case of me and Pisces just getting together.

Pisces guy kept asking me..

"Where do we go from here? What now? Why are you with him?" While at the same time staying with his partner!?

You see once he was divorced he had money to leave his partner. His ex-wife and son moved location and Pisces guy was then saving up the payments he used to make on the family home.

I was a mum only working a few hours a week, earning almost nothing, while i cared for my child so couldn't afford to leave my marriage for the Pisces guy, unless I got a full-time job and put my child in Nursery.

So to get to the point..

The Pisces guy seemed to be putting pressure on me to leave my husband while making no effort to leave his partner. They didnt own a house together. They had no kids together and were not married either.

He could have left her in the blink of an eye.

Despite having money to leave he stayed with her, carried on cheating and constantly questioned me What Now What Now??

This was 4yrs ago. We're still in contact...But.

He could have rented a place for us, while I get divorced then after divorce we could possibly buy a place together.

Instead he got hurt by me not leaving.

Dud his famous Pisces disappearing act and wouldn't speak to me for weeks and months!

Therefore..

What I am saying is..

Should I have put my child in nursery and got a flat for him to move in to with me?

He earned a good wage. I did not and would never be able to match his.

I had a very strong feeling he wanted this but said it by being indirect about it.

He did the right thing to forget about you and move on, otherwise he will suffer forever by your empty hope or simply "your BS".

He should do that from the start, i mean look what he got now ? divorced with his wife and nothing.

Dont disturb him anymore, maybe hes already happy now for good dont ruin his happiness again with your false hope.

Wow!

How nice!

I actually asked if a Pisces man Needs a woman to take charge in a relationship!

Because seemed to want Me to do exactly that while I earned peanuts, and had a small child to look after!

Was he going to support me until I can earn more?

No! He expected Me to leave my husband rendering me a single mum, get my own place, pay for it myself whole He MOVES HOUSE - from his partners house to mine!

He was keeping every penny from her since his divorce 4yrs ago and was trying to keep it from Me as well by contributing NOTHING, while I pay for everything on my own with a child!

So..when he's bored of me, he will cheat on me too - like he did with his partner - and no doubt move from my house to hers!

He told me of their arguments about money but it was plain to see what HE was doing. Lying to her!

So instead of being nasty like that, REALISE that I was trying to build a life with him.

He gets a flat. I divorce my husband. I move in and SHARE the rent and bills and do things Properly. Together.

But he bought a house...with his son and they all happy!

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The point is, this man waited for me to leave my husband, but because I didn't, he stayed with his partner.

I suggested we move in together, but he deemed to back off from the idea.

This made me not trust him.

I am now divorced.

I have my own place.

He has his own place too BUT an hour and a half away.

These last 5yrs have been for nothing.

We are still not together 😥

I am now a single mum struggling emotionally. Financially I'm not bad as I have been furloughed from the gym and help from the government.

But I am now wishing I had left my husband back then and been the 'man.'

Because if that's what it took to be with him, then so be it.

I'm really missing him now.

Posted by GemiAwesomeAss

Posted by pooface222

Posted by thinktankpisces951

Posted by pooface222

First of all...

I apologise if I have already asked this question on here.

I want to know if Pisces men Need a woman to make the relationship develop by eg talking about living together and talking about houses etc and making appointments to view houses etc because lets say you've reached that stage.

I'm asking because I fear I seriously messed up and lost my relationship with a gorgeous pisces guy by not making those things happen for us.

It was tricky though because he was in a rship and unhappy. They were also living in HER house together.

He was still married to his ex-wife but separated.

Then he got divorced while he was seeing me behind ihs partners back!

COMPLICATED!

I was married and in a very controlling and lonely rship and with a child.

I wanted to leave but was scared about co-parenting.

So it wasn't a simple case of me and Pisces just getting together.

Pisces guy kept asking me..

"Where do we go from here? What now? Why are you with him?" While at the same time staying with his partner!?

You see once he was divorced he had money to leave his partner. His ex-wife and son moved location and Pisces guy was then saving up the payments he used to make on the family home.

I was a mum only working a few hours a week, earning almost nothing, while i cared for my child so couldn't afford to leave my marriage for the Pisces guy, unless I got a full-time job and put my child in Nursery.

So to get to the point..

The Pisces guy seemed to be putting pressure on me to leave my husband while making no effort to leave his partner. They didnt own a house together. They had no kids together and were not married either.

He could have left her in the blink of an eye.

Despite having money to leave he stayed with her, carried on cheating and constantly questioned me What Now What Now??

This was 4yrs ago. We're still in contact...But.

He could have rented a place for us, while I get divorced then after divorce we could possibly buy a place together.

Instead he got hurt by me not leaving.

Dud his famous Pisces disappearing act and wouldn't speak to me for weeks and months!

Therefore..

What I am saying is..

Should I have put my child in nursery and got a flat for him to move in to with me?

He earned a good wage. I did not and would never be able to match his.

I had a very strong feeling he wanted this but said it by being indirect about it.

He did the right thing to forget about you and move on, otherwise he will suffer forever by your empty hope or simply "your BS".

He should do that from the start, i mean look what he got now ? divorced with his wife and nothing.

Dont disturb him anymore, maybe hes already happy now for good dont ruin his happiness again with your false hope.

Wow!

How nice!

I actually asked if a Pisces man Needs a woman to take charge in a relationship!

Because seemed to want Me to do exactly that while I earned peanuts, and had a small child to look after!

Was he going to support me until I can earn more?

No! He expected Me to leave my husband rendering me a single mum, get my own place, pay for it myself whole He MOVES HOUSE - from his partners house to mine!

He was keeping every penny from her since his divorce 4yrs ago and was trying to keep it from Me as well by contributing NOTHING, while I pay for everything on my own with a child!

So..when he's bored of me, he will cheat on me too - like he did with his partner - and no doubt move from my house to hers!

He told me of their arguments about money but it was plain to see what HE was doing. Lying to her!

So instead of being nasty like that, REALISE that I was trying to build a life with him.

He gets a flat. I divorce my husband. I move in and SHARE the rent and bills and do things Properly. Together.

But he bought a house...with his son and they all happy!

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The point is, this man waited for me to leave my husband, but because I didn't, he stayed with his partner.

I suggested we move in together, but he deemed to back off from the idea.

This made me not trust him.

I am now divorced.

I have my own place.

He has his own place too BUT an hour and a half away.

These last 5yrs have been for nothing.

We are still not together 😥

I am now a single mum struggling emotionally. Financially I'm not bad as I have been furloughed from the gym and help from the government.

But I am now wishing I had left my husband back then and been the 'man.'

Because if that's what it took to be with him, then so be it.

I'm really missing him now.

Read the PISCES MAN part.

https://www.thetalko.com/no-matter-how-confident-each-sign-is-heres-their-deepest-insecurity-when-it-comes-to-love-his-hers/

THIS is what I am so upset about.

I am an Alpha Female.

I'm a Capricorn fgs !

I'm realising now that by telling Pisces guy to go and get a flat - even though it was HIS idea - I've just made him feel Insecure.

He wanted Me to take charge.

And I wanted to take charge.

5 Years Wasted.

And I've Blown it.

And now I'm alonec😥

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Posted by pooface222

Read the PISCES MAN part.

https://www.thetalko.com/no-matter-how-confident-each-sign-is-heres-their-deepest-insecurity-when-it-comes-to-love-his-hers/

THIS is what I am so upset about.

I am an Alpha Female.

I'm a Capricorn fgs !

I'm realising now that by telling Pisces guy to go and get a flat - even though it was HIS idea - I've just made him feel Insecure.

He wanted Me to take charge.

And I wanted to take charge.

5 Years Wasted.

And I've Blown it.

And now I'm alonec😥

You're alone because you got played.

I don't even know why people are replying on this thread it's the most stupid thread in years on Dxp and boy have there been many.

This is why I say I feel sorry for your daughter. You're a single mother, you should be out there working and making you and your daughter's life better, but in reality here you are on an internet forum crying your ass out everyday over how "A Pisces left me and played me but I'm too stupid to realise it or just need of some attention so I keep sharing it again and again!"

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I am not too stupid.

I have been DEPRESSED since my child was 6 Months!

Guess you know Nothing about Depression.

I didnt even know I was depressed myself until about 3 or 3yrs ago.

I also didnt know whether what I had was Post-Matal Depression or Situational Depression brought on by my abusive husband making threats not long after she was born..

Or..a mix of Both!

Since she was born I spent my entire time caring for Her as any mother WOULD!

What I wasn't doing was caring for MYSELF!

I had zero time to myself day after day ...again as every mother. I needed to look after my emotional health because I was falling apart inside!

My therapist understands this, and also understands why I fell in love with someone else.

I NEEDED TO BE CARED FOR !

My husband is abusive!

Had my husband been supportive, I wouldn't have had a problem at all with no time to myself because I would have been very happy and content!

Pisces guy wanted ME to provide with a tiny baby and not much money.

I wasn't caring for my emotional health so I fell apart!

Hence why I came on here.

So THANKS for rendering my Depression STUPID!

NICE!

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Posted by pooface222

Posted by iamnotbot

Posted by pooface222

Read the PISCES MAN part.

https://www.thetalko.com/no-matter-how-confident-each-sign-is-heres-their-deepest-insecurity-when-it-comes-to-love-his-hers/

THIS is what I am so upset about.

I am an Alpha Female.

I'm a Capricorn fgs !

I'm realising now that by telling Pisces guy to go and get a flat - even though it was HIS idea - I've just made him feel Insecure.

He wanted Me to take charge.

And I wanted to take charge.

5 Years Wasted.

And I've Blown it.

And now I'm alonec😥

You're alone because you got played.

I don't even know why people are replying on this thread it's the most stupid thread in years on Dxp and boy have there been many.

This is why I say I feel sorry for your daughter. You're a single mother, you should be out there working and making you and your daughter's life better, but in reality here you are on an internet forum crying your ass out everyday over how "A Pisces left me and played me but I'm too stupid to realise it or just need of some attention so I keep sharing it again and again!"

I am not too stupid.

I have been DEPRESSED since my child was 6 Months!

Guess you know Nothing about Depression.

I didnt even know I was depressed myself until about 3 or 3yrs ago.

I also didnt know whether what I had was Post-Matal Depression or Situational Depression brought on by my abusive husband making threats not long after she was born..

Or..a mix of Both!

Since she was born I spent my entire time caring for Her as any mother WOULD!

What I wasn't doing was caring for MYSELF!

I had zero time to myself day after day ...again as every mother. I needed to look after my emotional health because I was falling apart inside!

My therapist understands this, and also understands why I fell in love with someone else.

I NEEDED TO BE CARED FOR !

My husband is abusive!

Had my husband been supportive, I wouldn't have had a problem at all with no time to myself because I would have been very happy and content!

Pisces guy wanted ME to provide with a tiny baby and not much money.

I wasn't caring for my emotional health so I fell apart!

Hence why I came on here.

So THANKS for rendering my Depression STUPID!

NICE!

Focus on your life and move on from your Pisces FWB. I say FWB because that's all he ever was no matter if you accept it or not.

You've wasted 6 years already on something useless, don't waste anymore.

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I know!

Trust me.

I know I've wasted 6yrs.

Hence why I'm in therapy.

Regret.

Loss.

Pain.

Loneliness.

And I hate being a Single Mum. Its HARD!

Idk..maybe if I had left my husband back in 2016 when I first wanted to, and just rented a place to het away from him - as I also wanted to back then - maybe I'd be in a better place emotionally.

And maybe the Pisces guy would have moved in with me to my rented place. At least if he plays around etc I could throw him out asap!

It would be My place so ..

Posted by pooface222

First of all...

I apologise if I have already asked this question on here.

I want to know if Pisces men Need a woman to make the relationship develop by eg talking about living together and talking about houses etc and making appointments to view houses etc because lets say you've reached that stage.

I'm asking because I fear I seriously messed up and lost my relationship with a gorgeous pisces guy by not making those things happen for us.

It was tricky though because he was in a rship and unhappy. They were also living in HER house together.

He was still married to his ex-wife but separated.

Then he got divorced while he was seeing me behind ihs partners back!

COMPLICATED!

I was married and in a very controlling and lonely rship and with a child.

I wanted to leave but was scared about co-parenting.

So it wasn't a simple case of me and Pisces just getting together.

Pisces guy kept asking me..

"Where do we go from here? What now? Why are you with him?" While at the same time staying with his partner!?

You see once he was divorced he had money to leave his partner. His ex-wife and son moved location and Pisces guy was then saving up the payments he used to make on the family home.

I was a mum only working a few hours a week, earning almost nothing, while i cared for my child so couldn't afford to leave my marriage for the Pisces guy, unless I got a full-time job and put my child in Nursery.

So to get to the point..

The Pisces guy seemed to be putting pressure on me to leave my husband while making no effort to leave his partner. They didnt own a house together. They had no kids together and were not married either.

He could have left her in the blink of an eye.

Despite having money to leave he stayed with her, carried on cheating and constantly questioned me What Now What Now??

This was 4yrs ago. We're still in contact...But.

He could have rented a place for us, while I get divorced then after divorce we could possibly buy a place together.

Instead he got hurt by me not leaving.

Dud his famous Pisces disappearing act and wouldn't speak to me for weeks and months!

Therefore..

What I am saying is..

Should I have put my child in nursery and got a flat for him to move in to with me?

He earned a good wage. I did not and would never be able to match his.

I had a very strong feeling he wanted this but said it by being indirect about it.

Why complicate your life mate? Find someone who is - really -on the same page.

Having that cleared out, i can take the lead pretty well. I think being your best awesome-self vs being a dodgy flaky little turd is more about high and low vibrational energies rather than cause of the sign. Karmic cicles and all of that too.

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Posted by pooface222

Posted by GemiAwesomeAss

Posted by pooface222

Posted by thinktankpisces951

Posted by pooface222

First of all...

I apologise if I have already asked this question on here.

I want to know if Pisces men Need a woman to make the relationship develop by eg talking about living together and talking about houses etc and making appointments to view houses etc because lets say you've reached that stage.

I'm asking because I fear I seriously messed up and lost my relationship with a gorgeous pisces guy by not making those things happen for us.

It was tricky though because he was in a rship and unhappy. They were also living in HER house together.

He was still married to his ex-wife but separated.

Then he got divorced while he was seeing me behind ihs partners back!

COMPLICATED!

I was married and in a very controlling and lonely rship and with a child.

I wanted to leave but was scared about co-parenting.

So it wasn't a simple case of me and Pisces just getting together.

Pisces guy kept asking me..

"Where do we go from here? What now? Why are you with him?" While at the same time staying with his partner!?

You see once he was divorced he had money to leave his partner. His ex-wife and son moved location and Pisces guy was then saving up the payments he used to make on the family home.

I was a mum only working a few hours a week, earning almost nothing, while i cared for my child so couldn't afford to leave my marriage for the Pisces guy, unless I got a full-time job and put my child in Nursery.

So to get to the point..

The Pisces guy seemed to be putting pressure on me to leave my husband while making no effort to leave his partner. They didnt own a house together. They had no kids together and were not married either.

He could have left her in the blink of an eye.

Despite having money to leave he stayed with her, carried on cheating and constantly questioned me What Now What Now??

This was 4yrs ago. We're still in contact...But.

He could have rented a place for us, while I get divorced then after divorce we could possibly buy a place together.

Instead he got hurt by me not leaving.

Dud his famous Pisces disappearing act and wouldn't speak to me for weeks and months!

Therefore..

What I am saying is..

Should I have put my child in nursery and got a flat for him to move in to with me?

He earned a good wage. I did not and would never be able to match his.

I had a very strong feeling he wanted this but said it by being indirect about it.

He did the right thing to forget about you and move on, otherwise he will suffer forever by your empty hope or simply "your BS".

He should do that from the start, i mean look what he got now ? divorced with his wife and nothing.

Dont disturb him anymore, maybe hes already happy now for good dont ruin his happiness again with your false hope.

Wow!

How nice!

I actually asked if a Pisces man Needs a woman to take charge in a relationship!

Because seemed to want Me to do exactly that while I earned peanuts, and had a small child to look after!

Was he going to support me until I can earn more?

No! He expected Me to leave my husband rendering me a single mum, get my own place, pay for it myself whole He MOVES HOUSE - from his partners house to mine!

He was keeping every penny from her since his divorce 4yrs ago and was trying to keep it from Me as well by contributing NOTHING, while I pay for everything on my own with a child!

So..when he's bored of me, he will cheat on me too - like he did with his partner - and no doubt move from my house to hers!

He told me of their arguments about money but it was plain to see what HE was doing. Lying to her!

So instead of being nasty like that, REALISE that I was trying to build a life with him.

He gets a flat. I divorce my husband. I move in and SHARE the rent and bills and do things Properly. Together.

But he bought a house...with his son and they all happy!

The point is, this man waited for me to leave my husband, but because I didn't, he stayed with his partner.

I suggested we move in together, but he deemed to back off from the idea.

This made me not trust him.

I am now divorced.

I have my own place.

He has his own place too BUT an hour and a half away.

These last 5yrs have been for nothing.

We are still not together 😥

I am now a single mum struggling emotionally. Financially I'm not bad as I have been furloughed from the gym and help from the government.

But I am now wishing I had left my husband back then and been the 'man.'

Because if that's what it took to be with him, then so be it.

I'm really missing him now.

How is The Man acting toward you now?

Distant? Does he want to be with you or he is being an ass?

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Distant.

But only very recently.

And its tearing me to bits inside.

He is a Contradiction too.

(Apparently that's a Pisces thing too - the symbol being 2 fish swimming in Opposite direction, but Connected).

The last time we saw each other properly was 17th March. He picked me up at my previous (marital) house (before I moved in June), at 6am to go to the gym together where he took part in my class.

After class ended at 7.30am we went back to mine for coffee showers and love-making. Then he did his work at my house until he went home to his partner.

And that's the part I hated. When he left.

We should have been living together like a proper couple.

Before Lockdown he was also coming over to my house up to 3 times a week. Sometimes not at all depending on his schedule.

He would bring his laptop with him and would work from home, from my place.

I Loved It.

So once I moved house, it all went strange.

Ok he offered to help me move, I said "No its ok." Maybe I should have said Yes.

But given his history of letting me down when I needed him, I expected him to let me down this time too.

Anyway, since I've moved, he hasn't come over like he used to in the previous house.

I don't know if he wanted permission from me as its just my place (not mine and my husband's) but as he was coming over to mine via a simple phonecall from him asking, I thought that would continue.

Instead he has been calling me but NOT asking to come over.

I'm not asking him! Been There. Done That. I used to ask him before to come over and Boy was it a struggle! I felt like I was begging him. So i stopped asking.

Then he began coming over.

See? It only works on his terms.

He has been to my new place Twice. Ince to help me put my new bed together.

And ince for coffee and chatting.

This part is interesting.

When he came to do my bed, he actually came over unannounced!

Why?

Because I ignored his calls.

I had a friend over (female).

He just turned up and when I opened the door he was PANICKING! He looked worried and was shaking.

I've never ignored him before so I guess he was scared.

He sulked while he out my bed together.

My house was full of boxes so not very romantic. We didnt make-love sadly.

He's called me lots since the move.

However since HIS move. SILENCE!

I've had about 1 text. 2 emails.0 calls.

I called him but didnt reply.

Then he lost his phone apparently. Made sense as his phone was off.

He found it 2 days ago.

How did I know?

I finally got a delivery report from a text I sent him. It came up with Delivered after a few days of Silence.

I called him an hour or so later but he didnt answer.

He didn't call back.

Its been 6yrs of confusing behaviour!

But he admitted in the phone a month ago.

"It was up to you to make us happen."

So you we’re screwing this guy for 6 years in yours and your husbands bed? Did your husband know at all?? That sounds so trashy. Did it not bother you at all?

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So you we’re screwing this guy for 6 years in yours and your husbands bed? Did your husband know at all?? That sounds so trashy. Did it not bother you at all?

No. I wasn't screwing him for 6yrs at all. The first year he was just coming to my classes. We were talking flirting texting calling for months!

Then we finally kissed. After a year we began sleeping together but hardly ever because it was in the daytime. He has work to do.

Then as I wasnt leaving my husband after that year, he began vanishing in me.

Days. Then Weeks. Then Months. Eventually an entire year!

I was confused as Hell with all the vanishing!

I finally realised the vanishing was because he was hurt over me not leaving my husband!

Anyway..I keep repeating this.

So..

To answer you properly, my husband moved out 3yrs ago.

Then 2yrs ago Pisces began coming over to see me at the marital home, while my child was at School. She was 4yrs old at the time.

He would leave my house at 3pm as I had to collect my child from school.

And we didnt go to bed every single time because sometimes it was just nice to have him come over and work, while I do housework, or sit and read a book, or have a coffee together.

Sometimes he would take me out on a lunch date, then we'd go back to mine so he can finish his work.

So really..we have only been 'screwing' as you so 'delicately' put it, for about 2yrs out of the 6yrs.

And while my husband had already left, and divorce had already started. And while my child (aged 4), was at school.

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Talking and planning for the future is definitely a motivator for pieces👍

However, like what everyone else pointed out he made no serious effort.

I assume you guys had already talked this over multiple times and basically were on the same page correct? And it sounds like he put all the risk on your shoulders Despite being the one with the most flexabilty to make it happen?

If so, ya he is at fault here since he had the ability to pull it off and put in no real effort. Calmly point that out to him if it comes up.

If there was no real communication and baseless self-serving assumption, you both share blame. You are both imperfect people and share blame in this miscommunication.As well as a life lesson.

Forgive yourselves and learn from it.

Make amends or move on.

Thank you so so much!

This is what I was hoping people would say.

I personally put the blame on both of us because as I said in reply to someone else here, think, we were both scared to leave our partners in case the other one didnt.

We both crave security. So both were reluctant to let it go by leaving.

So maybe it was self-serving on both sides.

You're right.

However..

4yrs ago (2016) ,when he became divorced (I was still married)? I suggested we Rent together just while my divorce goes through.

So once divorced we can hopefully buy a house together.

He replied...

"I dont want to rent."

🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

So how else could we be together??

It was only while i got divorced.

He also said "I cant afford to buy."

So back then I felt utterly STUCK where I was...seeing him behind my husbands back!

And i didnt want that. I wanted him properly.

He wouldn't rent.

Said he couldn't afford to buy so...

What was left ??

Ya this wasn't a black and white situation but that last part... is on him. He set terms he Supposily couldn't do then did not seek a alternative with you🤦

Exactly.

Hence my confusion..

He left us Stuck.

Unless I made it happen.

I wanted US to make it happen.

So we came back full circle. Obviously this issue isn't black in white.

I would say on his end he could have put in a lot more effort to make it happen when this challenge presented itself. Actions speak louder then words yes? How much did he really want this to happen?

As far as you are concerned, you know the amount of effort you made and supported this happening. It's unrealistic and not fair to punish yourself in any way in hindsight. If there is something you learned you could have done or tried differently that's great BUT don't take more of this on your shoulders that is rightfully yours. You did really try on your end right? Take the lessons of the past not the pain.

On a side note, just about everyone responds well to positive reenforcement and encouragement. Yes other People may have a soft spot for particular kinds. Even cracking a verbal whip like a drill sergeant is a preference to a few lol.

A sign of great couple support is the ability to support each other in difficult times in some way.

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Just seen your reply.

Exactly thats what I am trying to say here.

I felt for a long time, that he wanted me to do everything, whereas I am about Both of us doing everything

He didn't offer any options either.

Just kept saying "I don't know "

However..

I think its worth mentioning that his partner did exactly what he seemed to be expecting me to do.

She divorced her husband.

She bought a house with the divorce money.

He moved in to her place - after walking out on his wife and son of 7yrs old. He was living in friends houses at the time, after walking out on his family. So once he met the partner, he moved in to Her house.

So..after doing everything for him while he simply Moved in, I got a strong feeling, he expected the same from me!

Great!

So I wreck everything I have, including my childs family - just for him to Move House, from his partners house, to mine.

And because that exact same thing didn't happen, he began disappearing on me.

It was Weird!

I have never had a guy do that to me!

I just wanted him to work with me to build our life together.

You ask me if I did really try in my end.

I think I did.

I gave him options for us to be together..renting etc.

Maybe I didnt try enough.

Maybe he needed proof that I'm leaving my husband in MORE than just me Saying it!

So maybe for Him it was just Words!

Actions Speak Louder..Yes!

I was just Saying "I want to leave my husband. I don't love him. I love you."

But i wasn't leaving.

So how did I look to him??

Like its just words.

It just took One of us to make it happen.

It clearly had to be me . He wasn't going to.

You also asked How much he wanted this to happen?

Lots it seemed!

Going by all his calls and romantic messages, and dates..BUT I've realised it had to be on HIS terms.

And those terms were i Do it All.

He admitted this a month or two ago on the phone..

"It was up to You to make us happen."

I like reading your threads, OP.

It's an indirect reminder to myself, to not treetrunk a Pisces ex that I also have, who's currently giving me the "I love you" signals and other whispers of sweet nothing. He has a partner and is living with her as well, but claims that he's 'not as happy as he used to be' or 'is missing something in his life' because of me.

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I like reading your threads, OP.

It's an indirect reminder to myself, to not treetrunk a Pisces ex that I also have, who's currently giving me the "I love you" signals and other whispers of sweet nothing. He has a partner and is living with her as well, but claims that he's 'not as happy as he used to be' or 'is missing something in his life' because of me.

Hi..

Ok..thank you. Hope I helped in some way.

So are you saying that he thinks you are in the way of his rship with her??

Or..

Are you saying that he thinks that missing something is You?

Sorry if I sound thick lol.

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I like reading your threads, OP.

It's an indirect reminder to myself, to not treetrunk a Pisces ex that I also have, who's currently giving me the "I love you" signals and other whispers of sweet nothing. He has a partner and is living with her as well, but claims that he's 'not as happy as he used to be' or 'is missing something in his life' because of me.

Just realised what you meant..I think.

He is not happy so You are the missing something.

How long were you and him together at the time?

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Are you saying that he thinks that missing something is You?

This, and don't worry you are not being thick.

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Just realised what you meant..I think.

He is not happy so You are the missing something.

How long were you and him together at the time?

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About 7-8 months. It wasn't long, but it was definitely the most intense one that I've had and learned a lot from. I've admitted to him that I still do love him, and had things played out differently (we both have our own partners now) we would have been married. Sadly that isn't how life works.

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Are you saying that he thinks that missing something is You?

This, and don't worry you are not being thick.

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Just realised what you meant..I think.

He is not happy so You are the missing something.

How long were you and him together at the time?

About 7-8 months. It wasn't long, but it was definitely the most intense one that I've had and learned a lot from. I've admitted to him that I still do love him, and had things played out differently (we both have our own partners now) we would have been married. Sadly that isn't how life works.

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Its,so sad isn't it. And it hurts.

How often does he give you attention?

Would you leave your partner for him?

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Are you saying that he thinks that missing something is You?

This, and don't worry you are not being thick.

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Just realised what you meant..I think.

He is not happy so You are the missing something.

How long were you and him together at the time?

About 7-8 months. It wasn't long, but it was definitely the most intense one that I've had and learned a lot from. I've admitted to him that I still do love him, and had things played out differently (we both have our own partners now) we would have been married. Sadly that isn't how life works.

Its,so sad isn't it. And it hurts.

How often does he give you attention?

He's sent me 6 messages in the last 2 weeks, and I saw them, but I choose not to respond. The 2 months prior I was constantly reaching out to him for emotional and mental support. I realized how inappropriate this was and that it didn't make it any better for the two of us. I was disrespecting my relationship with my partner, as he was disrespecting his. However, he claimed that his partner was fine with polygamy, which I blatantly refused. Major red flag there.

Would you leave your partner for him?

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No. I have no problems with my current partner, as we are in a stable relationship (more stable than when I was with him tbh).

It takes a lot of willpower to have to move on from someone whom you used to share intimacy and support for each other. But in the end, it's worth it once you start to see the bigger picture of the relationship. I hope you will reach to that point too, with this Pisces man.

Sadly I think he has already reached this point before me.

He spent 6yrs chasing me just for me to stay with my husband. 3 of those 3yrs my husband had moved out. Pisces guy stoll stayed with his partner even though I've been alone these last 3yrs.

Now he has a 5yr plan with his son. Hence why he has bought a house for his son and himself to live in.

So he may have moved on to be with his son.

He hasn't called or texted me for nearly 4 weeks and has ignored mine.

BUT on Friday, I bumped into someone I know from the gym. She goes to one of his classes he goes to.

I didn't ask about him though. But she said he was in the class Thurs night.

I was stunned!

I've not heard from him so I assumed he was an hour and a half away with his son.

Last time I saw him - for coffee at my place - I asked him what he was going to do about his partner.

He said that he will just move and settle down, then just tell her he has settled.

So in other words, he will drift away from her, and not really tell her anything

He does that to me too.

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Sadly I think he has already reached this point before me.

He spent 6yrs chasing me just for me to stay with my husband. 3 of those 3yrs my husband had moved out. Pisces guy stoll stayed with his partner even though I've been alone these last 3yrs.

Now he has a 5yr plan with his son. Hence why he has bought a house for his son and himself to live in.

So he may have moved on to be with his son.

He hasn't called or texted me for nearly 4 weeks and has ignored mine.

BUT on Friday, I bumped into someone I know from the gym. She goes to one of his classes he goes to.

I didn't ask about him though. But she said he was in the class Thurs night.

I was stunned!

I've not heard from him so I assumed he was an hour and a half away with his son.

Last time I saw him - for coffee at my place - I asked him what he was going to do about his partner.

He said that he will just move and settle down, then just tell her he has settled.

So in other words, he will drift away from her, and not really tell her anything

He does that to me too.

Yes, and in those "3 of those 3yrs" pisces chase you, you never tell him even up till now you already divorced.

So why he should take you seriously ? in his mind he think you still with your husband, so he think he could just leave you because you already had someone to take care of you.

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No. No. No.

I told him 3yrs ago, my divorce has started. I also told him my husband has moved out

After nearly a year apart, he came back into my life. When we've been apart it takes him a while to come back.

So..

He has been back in my life for the last 2yrs and coming over to my house, up to 4 days a week, including overnight if his partner goes on holiday for a few days and my child is with her father.

I will never understand why we didn't just move in together in that time. Not to the marital home but to our own place.

He confesses to being very very insecure. And I see it too.

However..

Every time I made suggestions for us to be together he would say..

"Yes but This.."

"Yes but That.."

Every Time!

It made Me feel insecure eventually!

Idk maybe I should have just moved out of the marital home, got a flat, and said..

"I've left him. I'm divorcing him too. I've got my own place x"

Because Honestly? He wasn't going to do it!

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[...] He hasn't called or texted me for nearly 4 weeks and has ignored mine.

BUT on Friday, I bumped into someone I know from the gym. She goes to one of his classes he goes to.

I didn't ask about him though. But she said he was in the class Thurs night.

I was stunned!

I've not heard from him so I assumed he was an hour and a half away with his son.

Last time I saw him - for coffee at my place - I asked him what he was going to do about his partner.

He said that he will just move and settle down, then just tell her he has settled.

So in other words, he will drift away from her, and not really tell her anything

He does that to me too.

Stop obsessing over him. Seriously. You are wasting your time and energy. As many others have pointed out, you need to move on. This has been going on for years now. This isn't healthy.

Feel free to vent about him and what you had to deal with being with him in this forum, but no one here (who cares about you at least) will EVER suggest going back to him. You need to accept the fact that the chances of getting him back is damn-near impossible.

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First of all...

I apologise if I have already asked this question on here.

I want to know if Pisces men Need a woman to make the relationship develop by eg talking about living together and talking about houses etc and making appointments to view houses etc because lets say you've reached that stage.

I'm asking because I fear I seriously messed up and lost my relationship with a gorgeous pisces guy by not making those things happen for us.

It was tricky though because he was in a rship and unhappy. They were also living in HER house together.

He was still married to his ex-wife but separated.

Then he got divorced while he was seeing me behind ihs partners back!

COMPLICATED!

I was married and in a very controlling and lonely rship and with a child.

I wanted to leave but was scared about co-parenting.

So it wasn't a simple case of me and Pisces just getting together.

Pisces guy kept asking me..

"Where do we go from here? What now? Why are you with him?" While at the same time staying with his partner!?

You see once he was divorced he had money to leave his partner. His ex-wife and son moved location and Pisces guy was then saving up the payments he used to make on the family home.

I was a mum only working a few hours a week, earning almost nothing, while i cared for my child so couldn't afford to leave my marriage for the Pisces guy, unless I got a full-time job and put my child in Nursery.

So to get to the point..

The Pisces guy seemed to be putting pressure on me to leave my husband while making no effort to leave his partner. They didnt own a house together. They had no kids together and were not married either.

He could have left her in the blink of an eye.

Despite having money to leave he stayed with her, carried on cheating and constantly questioned me What Now What Now??

This was 4yrs ago. We're still in contact...But.

He could have rented a place for us, while I get divorced then after divorce we could possibly buy a place together.

Instead he got hurt by me not leaving.

Dud his famous Pisces disappearing act and wouldn't speak to me for weeks and months!

Therefore..

What I am saying is..

Should I have put my child in nursery and got a flat for him to move in to with me?

He earned a good wage. I did not and would never be able to match his.

I had a very strong feeling he wanted this but said it by being indirect about it.

He did the right thing to forget about you and move on, otherwise he will suffer forever by your empty hope or simply "your BS".

He should do that from the start, i mean look what he got now ? divorced with his wife and nothing.

Dont disturb him anymore, maybe hes already happy now for good dont ruin his happiness again with your false hope.

Wow!

How nice!

I actually asked if a Pisces man Needs a woman to take charge in a relationship!

Because seemed to want Me to do exactly that while I earned peanuts, and had a small child to look after!

Was he going to support me until I can earn more?

No! He expected Me to leave my husband rendering me a single mum, get my own place, pay for it myself whole He MOVES HOUSE - from his partners house to mine!

He was keeping every penny from her since his divorce 4yrs ago and was trying to keep it from Me as well by contributing NOTHING, while I pay for everything on my own with a child!

So..when he's bored of me, he will cheat on me too - like he did with his partner - and no doubt move from my house to hers!

He told me of their arguments about money but it was plain to see what HE was doing. Lying to her!

So instead of being nasty like that, REALISE that I was trying to build a life with him.

He gets a flat. I divorce my husband. I move in and SHARE the rent and bills and do things Properly. Together.

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so what's the plan?

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Posted by pooface222

First of all...

I apologise if I have already asked this question on here.

I want to know if Pisces men Need a woman to make the relationship develop by eg talking about living together and talking about houses etc and making appointments to view houses etc because lets say you've reached that stage.

I'm asking because I fear I seriously messed up and lost my relationship with a gorgeous pisces guy by not making those things happen for us.

It was tricky though because he was in a rship and unhappy. They were also living in HER house together.

He was still married to his ex-wife but separated.

Then he got divorced while he was seeing me behind ihs partners back!

COMPLICATED!

I was married and in a very controlling and lonely rship and with a child.

I wanted to leave but was scared about co-parenting.

So it wasn't a simple case of me and Pisces just getting together.

Pisces guy kept asking me..

"Where do we go from here? What now? Why are you with him?" While at the same time staying with his partner!?

You see once he was divorced he had money to leave his partner. His ex-wife and son moved location and Pisces guy was then saving up the payments he used to make on the family home.

I was a mum only working a few hours a week, earning almost nothing, while i cared for my child so couldn't afford to leave my marriage for the Pisces guy, unless I got a full-time job and put my child in Nursery.

So to get to the point..

The Pisces guy seemed to be putting pressure on me to leave my husband while making no effort to leave his partner. They didnt own a house together. They had no kids together and were not married either.

He could have left her in the blink of an eye.

Despite having money to leave he stayed with her, carried on cheating and constantly questioned me What Now What Now??

This was 4yrs ago. We're still in contact...But.

He could have rented a place for us, while I get divorced then after divorce we could possibly buy a place together.

Instead he got hurt by me not leaving.

Dud his famous Pisces disappearing act and wouldn't speak to me for weeks and months!

Therefore..

What I am saying is..

Should I have put my child in nursery and got a flat for him to move in to with me?

He earned a good wage. I did not and would never be able to match his.

I had a very strong feeling he wanted this but said it by being indirect about it.

He did the right thing to forget about you and move on, otherwise he will suffer forever by your empty hope or simply "your BS".

He should do that from the start, i mean look what he got now ? divorced with his wife and nothing.

Dont disturb him anymore, maybe hes already happy now for good dont ruin his happiness again with your false hope.

Wow!

How nice!

I actually asked if a Pisces man Needs a woman to take charge in a relationship!

Because seemed to want Me to do exactly that while I earned peanuts, and had a small child to look after!

Was he going to support me until I can earn more?

No! He expected Me to leave my husband rendering me a single mum, get my own place, pay for it myself whole He MOVES HOUSE - from his partners house to mine!

He was keeping every penny from her since his divorce 4yrs ago and was trying to keep it from Me as well by contributing NOTHING, while I pay for everything on my own with a child!

So..when he's bored of me, he will cheat on me too - like he did with his partner - and no doubt move from my house to hers!

He told me of their arguments about money but it was plain to see what HE was doing. Lying to her!

So instead of being nasty like that, REALISE that I was trying to build a life with him.

He gets a flat. I divorce my husband. I move in and SHARE the rent and bills and do things Properly. Together.

so what's the plan?

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I'll let you know after Christmas.

I'm looking to move house and am studying for a 2nd career so in the New Year, I'll be clearer.