Trump-era protests, Kavanaugh drama show we need less democracy

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I wonder how many of you, upon reading the title, immediately cranked up the outrage to 11?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/09/brett-kavanaugh-protestors-supreme-court-liberal-mob-democracy-constitution-column/1564490002/

You weren’t singing this tune when Obama was president. At least keep it consistent.

Watching that video of protesters trying to claw open the doors to the Supreme Court building was like watching an episode of "The Walking Dead", rather than people that supposedly have brains in their heads.

We need more mental health awareness.

Posted by LadyNeptune

You weren’t singing this tune when Obama was president. At least keep it consistent.

I've been consistent.

I didn't like Michelle Obama lecturing everyone else on eating healthy (and trying to force others to via backdoor regulation) while she scarfed down lobster and wagyu beef, did not think that Obama portrait was really appropriate, and cant really think of much else I've commented on. Elections do have consequences, and I, among others, went out and voted.

Contrary to what is obviously your type of peeps, I didn't fall down on the ground, pounding my fist and feet like a two year old having a temper tantrum.

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Posted by LadyNeptune

You weren’t singing this tune when Obama was president. At least keep it consistent.

I've been consistent.

I didn't like Michelle Obama lecturing everyone else on eating healthy (and trying to force others to via backdoor regulation) while she scarfed down lobster and wagyu beef, did not think that Obama portrait was really appropriate, and cant really think of much else I've commented on. Elections do have consequences, and I, among others, went out and voted.

Contrary to what is obviously your type of peeps, I didn't fall down on the ground, pounding my fist and feet like a two year old having a temper tantrum.

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Not you, singular. You as a whole.

Don’t remember all the riots and protesting when Obama was in office. Must be nice to have selective memory. You should get a job writing history books. You’d be perfect for it.

Posted by Antiochus

No, we need smarter people.

This echos my sentiment. When you look at the root of this issue, it comes down to we need education reform, which I think is a joke right now and has been for quite some time.

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Posted by LadyNeptune

You weren’t singing this tune when Obama was president. At least keep it consistent.

I've been consistent.

I didn't like Michelle Obama lecturing everyone else on eating healthy (and trying to force others to via backdoor regulation) while she scarfed down lobster and wagyu beef, did not think that Obama portrait was really appropriate, and cant really think of much else I've commented on. Elections do have consequences, and I, among others, went out and voted.

Contrary to what is obviously your type of peeps, I didn't fall down on the ground, pounding my fist and feet like a two year old having a temper tantrum.

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through the entire several paragraphs, my mind conjured up lobster and wagyu beef.

Posted by TheRabbit

If only the protesters were very fine people.

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Posted by TheRabbit

If only the protesters were very fine people.

Ah yes. Charlottesville.

Don't care for those punks either.

But, it's used as a broad brush and a tool to give moral equivalency to say, a Bernie bro shooting up a bunch of congressmen at a baseball diamond. Sorry, that doesn't wash.

Also, if you type in "who is Jason Kessler" a number of interesting links pop up with things like "Occupy Wall Street". It doesn't excuse the dumbasses that showed up, but it gives pause.

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Posted by LadyNeptune

You weren’t singing this tune when Obama was president. At least keep it consistent.

I've been consistent.

I didn't like Michelle Obama lecturing everyone else on eating healthy (and trying to force others to via backdoor regulation) while she scarfed down lobster and wagyu beef, did not think that Obama portrait was really appropriate, and cant really think of much else I've commented on. Elections do have consequences, and I, among others, went out and voted.

Contrary to what is obviously your type of peeps, I didn't fall down on the ground, pounding my fist and feet like a two year old having a temper tantrum.

through the entire several paragraphs, my mind conjured up lobster and wagyu beef.

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LOL.

I've never had wagyu beef myself.

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Posted by Antiochus

No, we need smarter people.

This echos my sentiment. When you look at the root of this issue, it comes down to we need education reform, which I think is a joke right now and has been for quite some time.

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I agree. Ignorance stems from lack of education and being informed of the facts of the issues.

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Posted by TheRabbit

If only the protesters were very fine people.

Ah yes. Charlottesville.

Don't care for those punks either.

But, it's used as a broad brush and a tool to give moral equivalency to say, a Bernie bro shooting up a bunch of congressmen at a baseball diamond. Sorry, that doesn't wash.

Also, if you type in "who is Jason Kessler" a number of interesting links pop up with things like "Occupy Wall Street". It doesn't excuse the dumbasses that showed up, but it gives pause.

The sitting president referred to these "punks" as very fine people. Ignore that fact all you want, but people are mad and they're taking action.

Elections have consequences.

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I agree with you on the bolded, but probably for different reasons.

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Posted by Antiochus

No, we need smarter people.

This echos my sentiment. When you look at the root of this issue, it comes down to we need education reform, which I think is a joke right now and has been for quite some time.

I agree but it's not only about education.

People need to relearn to debate and discuss in general. That's not even limited to Amercia but includes us here in Europe as well.

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Only speaking on Americans here, but I think to your last point, relearning how to debate and discuss in general here comes down to having teachers who want to teach our kids while also having decent pay and resources to use for their students. Our school system here is a joke and kids are leaving colleges in massive debt with no idea on how to handle their debt, and our schools aren't even teaching them how to manage their debt either. It's f'd up and you wonder why so many kids don't even bother going to college.

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Posted by Antiochus

No, we need smarter people.

This echos my sentiment. When you look at the root of this issue, it comes down to we need education reform, which I think is a joke right now and has been for quite some time.

I agree but it's not only about education.

People need to relearn to debate and discuss in general. That's not even limited to Amercia but includes us here in Europe as well.

Only speaking on Americans here, but I think to your last point, relearning how to debate and discuss in general here comes down to having teachers who want to teach our kids while also having decent pay and resources to use for their students. Our school system here is a joke and kids are leaving colleges in massive debt with no idea on how to handle their debt, and our schools aren't even teaching them how to manage their debt either. It's f'd up and you wonder why so many kids don't even bother going to college.

I'm aware of most those points and yes it always sounded pretty fucked up to me. People also need to be tought how to debate in constructive way, so a second agree, but looking at my own nation I can see that without a good debating culture this education will end up being fruitless due to the factor of emotions.

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Where are you from if you don't mind me asking?

When I first clicked on the link, I was surprised at it being US Today. Ahh but it's an opinion piece. Would put a bet that he's a hired goon of the Republican administration. Yawn, it's stupid but not over the top. They got to step up their game to keep up with Trump. Rating: -4/10

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If only the protesters were very fine people.

Ah yes. Charlottesville.

Don't care for those punks either.

But, it's used as a broad brush and a tool to give moral equivalency to say, a Bernie bro shooting up a bunch of congressmen at a baseball diamond. Sorry, that doesn't wash.

Also, if you type in "who is Jason Kessler" a number of interesting links pop up with things like "Occupy Wall Street". It doesn't excuse the dumbasses that showed up, but it gives pause.

The sitting president referred to these "punks" as very fine people. Ignore that fact all you want, but people are mad and they're taking action.

Elections have consequences.

10/10 on that response. I'd interact with him but he blocked me. I'm too much for his white fragility.

I have to live vicariously thru u and LadyNeptune. 😢

White men are mad that they've been stockpiling guns and ammo to overthrow the government

But they are pro Cop/pro military?!

LOL.

I love to see the idiots with a Gadsden Flag sticker AND a thin blue line sticker on their truck (usually next to Calvin seeing on ex-wife) sticker.

They love the military until predator drones start raining fire on them and their hunting rifles.

That only happens when democrats are in office

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/drone-war/data/the-bush-years-pakistan-strikes-2004-2009

The Bush Years

Total CIA drone strikes 51

Total reported killed: 410-595

Civilians reported killed: 167-332

Children reported killed: 102-129

Total reported injured: 175-277

On American soil? I mean, we’re talking about Americans here

Has it ever happened on American soil?? jfc

That’s not what I asked.

We’re the stats you posted from American soil?

Has it ever happened on American soil while Democrats were in office? Stop being obtuse. Obviously my first comment flew right over your head.

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No it hasn't.

But it was discussed:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2273643/White-House-calls-drone-strikes-Americans-U-S-soil-legal-ethical-wise--evidence-pending-attack.html

I have voted Republican and Democrat for president. I will never vote Repub again until they stop being hypocritical regards to the spending debt and the moral compass endorsing Roy Moore child predators and treat women as second class. HORRIBLE.

Posted by Dianna

It is hard to take anyone seriously when they are screeching like banshees. Acting like a lunatic distracts from the message.

To be fair, most people were having a peaceful protest but a few bad apples went out acting crazy and became the faces of the day.

Extremists have psychological issues. It doesnt matter what side of the fence they sit on.

And white supremacists and Antifa should be declared domestic terrorists and dealt with accordingly. Pepper spray, rubber bullets, tasers....i dont care. They need to stop harassing innocent people.

^^This.

The issue is that the behavior is being encouraged/condoned/excused.

Maxine (I don't even live in the district I represent) Waters comes to mind.

Some of those organizing this crap are being paid to gin it up:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/09/confirmed-organizer-vinay-krishnan-who-was-caught-paying-off-kavanaugh-protesters-works-for-soros-linked-organization/

That's the stuff RICO prosecutions are made of.

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Posted by CancerOnTheCusp

I wonder how many of you, upon reading the title, immediately cranked up the outrage to 11?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/09/brett-kavanaugh-protestors-supreme-court-liberal-mob-democracy-constitution-column/1564490002/

Trump's words and behavior has been a embarrassment to the country. He has been using Joseph Goebbels playbook since day 1. Toxic as hell but it works because it preys on the worst parts of human nature. Fear, intolerance, hate, and self interest. It works though.

Actually it's kinda hilarious. He is doing the opposite or not following through on everything he ran on. My favorite is drain the swamp. Did you see who he appointed to the head of the agencies? Alagators! Freaking lobbyist!

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Please provide evidence of this so-called "playbook" by Goebbels that Trump has allegedly been using. Keep in mind that;

1) Goebbels was an anti-semite, which Trump is not. The fact that he doesn't kiss the ass of the Arabs doesn't mean he's an islamophobe either.

2) Goebbels had complete control over the content in German newspapers, magazines, books, music, films, stage plays, radio programs and fine arts, in order to prevent any opposition to Hitler. Trump has done no such thing.

3) Goebbels had a direct hand in producing, amongst other things, two anti-Semitic films which depicted Jews as hateful, greedy parasites, etc. Trump has not don't anything against ANY group.

4) Finally, Goebbels was part of a death machine that led to the mass murder of Jews, Gypsy's, gays, the elderly, and the disabled. Trump has done no such thing, nor does he express a desire to follow in this monsters footsteps.

"Fear, intolerance, hate, and self interest." Sounds like the Left, progressives... these disgusting people that are referred to as "Liberals" today. The ones who have their heads up "liberal" news media's ass. The ones MSNBC, and CNN bank on to regurgitate everything they claim. And Antifa. Which one are you a part of?

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Posted by Antiochus

No, we need smarter people.

This echos my sentiment. When you look at the root of this issue, it comes down to we need education reform, which I think is a joke right now and has been for quite some time.

I agree but it's not only about education.

People need to relearn to debate and discuss in general. That's not even limited to Amercia but includes us here in Europe as well.

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It’s fine. We have the power of the internet to teach us things incorrectly now! Who needs better schools when the internet has 10+ completely different answers to one question? Or better yet, 10+ opinions that all conform to one persons emotional standards, but is written to captivate those who have no idea what individual emotional standards even means.

Posted by Aliensusedourbogroll

I don’t get it? You want less of a say in how the government runs the country? In what way?

Did you read the article?

Not belittling you, but asking a serious question.

The author is restating something that the following states well:

https://www.theunion.com/news/twi/our-founding-fathers-wanted-a-republic-not-a-democracy/

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Posted by CancerOnTheCusp

I wonder how many of you, upon reading the title, immediately cranked up the outrage to 11?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/09/brett-kavanaugh-protestors-supreme-court-liberal-mob-democracy-constitution-column/1564490002/

Trump's words and behavior has been a embarrassment to the country. He has been using Joseph Goebbels playbook since day 1. Toxic as hell but it works because it preys on the worst parts of human nature. Fear, intolerance, hate, and self interest. It works though.

Actually it's kinda hilarious. He is doing the opposite or not following through on everything he ran on. My favorite is drain the swamp. Did you see who he appointed to the head of the agencies? Alagators! Freaking lobbyist!

Please provide evidence of this so-called "playbook" by Goebbels that Trump has allegedly been using. Keep in mind that;

1) Goebbels was an anti-semite, which Trump is not. The fact that he doesn't kiss the ass of the Arabs doesn't mean he's an islamophobe either.

2) Goebbels had complete control over the content in German newspapers, magazines, books, music, films, stage plays, radio programs and fine arts, in order to prevent any opposition to Hitler. Trump has done no such thing.

3) Goebbels had a direct hand in producing, amongst other things, two anti-Semitic films which depicted Jews as hateful, greedy parasites, etc. Trump has not don't anything against ANY group.

4) Finally, Goebbels was part of a death machine that led to the mass murder of Jews, Gypsy's, gays, the elderly, and the disabled. Trump has done no such thing, nor does he express a desire to follow in this monsters footsteps.

"Fear, intolerance, hate, and self interest." Sounds like the Left, progressives... these disgusting people that are referred to as "Liberals" today. The ones who have their heads up "liberal" news media's ass. The ones MSNBC, and CNN bank on to regurgitate everything they claim. And Antifa. Which one are you a part of?

Seriously. It's cause and effect. Pretend I'm not a idiot or politically biased. Then reread what I said. The tactics are toxic and exploit the worst qualities of human nature.

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Mind answering 81gems points?

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Posted by CancerOnTheCusp

I wonder how many of you, upon reading the title, immediately cranked up the outrage to 11?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/09/brett-kavanaugh-protestors-supreme-court-liberal-mob-democracy-constitution-column/1564490002/

Trump's words and behavior has been a embarrassment to the country. He has been using Joseph Goebbels playbook since day 1. Toxic as hell but it works because it preys on the worst parts of human nature. Fear, intolerance, hate, and self interest. It works though.

Actually it's kinda hilarious. He is doing the opposite or not following through on everything he ran on. My favorite is drain the swamp. Did you see who he appointed to the head of the agencies? Alagators! Freaking lobbyist!

Please provide evidence of this so-called "playbook" by Goebbels that Trump has allegedly been using. Keep in mind that;

1) Goebbels was an anti-semite, which Trump is not. The fact that he doesn't kiss the ass of the Arabs doesn't mean he's an islamophobe either.

2) Goebbels had complete control over the content in German newspapers, magazines, books, music, films, stage plays, radio programs and fine arts, in order to prevent any opposition to Hitler. Trump has done no such thing.

3) Goebbels had a direct hand in producing, amongst other things, two anti-Semitic films which depicted Jews as hateful, greedy parasites, etc. Trump has not don't anything against ANY group.

4) Finally, Goebbels was part of a death machine that led to the mass murder of Jews, Gypsy's, gays, the elderly, and the disabled. Trump has done no such thing, nor does he express a desire to follow in this monsters footsteps.

"Fear, intolerance, hate, and self interest." Sounds like the Left, progressives... these disgusting people that are referred to as "Liberals" today. The ones who have their heads up "liberal" news media's ass. The ones MSNBC, and CNN bank on to regurgitate everything they claim. And Antifa. Which one are you a part of?

Seriously. It's cause and effect. Pretend I'm not a idiot or politically biased. Then reread what I said. The tactics are toxic and exploit the worst qualities of human nature.

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I explained who Goebbles was and that’s the best laughable bullshit you can come back with? Cause and effect. Right.... that’s why it’s more the leftist in this country who are using toxic tactics on people who don’t agree with them. Like “mobs” of progressive snowflakes shouting down others who arent leftist. Look what happened in Portland. Look at Antifa. Free speech so long as they agree with it, otherwise there’ll be a beatdown and something lit on fire. Wonder who’s playbook the unhinged left are borrowing from. Brown shirts? Black shirts? Someone like you will just blame trump the whole way for others’ incivility. Yeah. So much for you not being an idiot.