Do you believe in "tough love"?

This topic was created in the Relationships & Astrology forum by m3h on Thursday, June 28, 2018 and has 32 replies.

Understanding the Impact of Tough Love in Relationships

Tough love can be a caring approach but may also hurt if not delivered sensitively. It depends on the intention and communication style. Recognizing astrology signs can help understand how different personalities perceive criticism and support. Balancing honesty with compassion is key to maintaining healthy relationships.

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@m3h
8 Years

If a loved one or a partner tells you "you're getting fat and need to lose weight", would you think of this as something inappropriate / hurtful, or as way of telling you they care about your health?

What's your sign?

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@Boots1313
8 Years1,000+ Posts

I'm okay with tough love. I'm pretty blunt myself. I think tone and word choice has a lot to do with it also.

My boyfriend told me "if you get fat, were going to just be friends" then he said "wow, that was mean, is it bad that I meant it?!"

I don't know for me it's motivation.

Maybe I'm just better at taking shit , in some aspects

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@m3h
8 Years

Posted by RockyMountainOysters

Posted by m3h
If a loved one or a partner tells you "you're getting fat and need to lose weight", would you think of this as something inappropriate / hurtful, or as way of telling you they care about your health?

What's your sign?

That's not tough love.. That's being a dick.

Taurus

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My Taurus girlfriend thinks the same way.

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@m3h
8 Years

Posted by Boots1313
I'm okay with tough love. I'm pretty but myself. I think tone and word choice has a lot to do with it also.
My boyfriend told me "if you get fat, were going to just be friends" then he said "wow, that was mean, is it bad that I meant it?!"
I don't know for me it's motivation.
Maybe I'm just better at taking butter , in some aspects

That's true, tone and word would make a difference at first. (How we'll process the information.)

And how we take the message might vary.

Sounds like you guys were having a playful conversation.

At least he was also being honest.

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@m3h
8 Years

Posted by Senorita_LLP2

Posted by m3h
If a loved one or a partner tells you "you're getting fat and need to lose weight", would you think of this as something inappropriate / hurtful, or as way of telling you they care about your health?

What's your sign?

I'll take that as a challenge and will make sure I lose some fats! Try being with a Sag, they are blunt like that. LooooL!

Gemini sun

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Lol. Reminds me of my aunt...no filter whatsoever.

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9 Years5,000+ Posts

Posted by MademoiselleFisk
I will eat 3 doughnuts in a single seating while staring at your face

I see your 3 donuts and raise you two more + hot cocoa.

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@EvatheDiva52
8 Years500+ PostsPisces

Posted by m3h
If a loved one or a partner tells you "you're getting fat and need to lose weight", would you think of this as something inappropriate / hurtful, or as way of telling you they care about your health?

What's your sign?

Duh, my sun sign and other info is on my tagline. The latter.

🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

PS: Peeps have got to take constructive criticism with a grain of salt. My mom had mentioned to me I was gaining weight (one can tell with my facial features). Did I cry? No. Did I not speak to her for the rest of my life? No. Did I get offended? No. What did I do? Yep! (went back on my diet, watched what I ate/drank, exercised, etc); even though this was years ago; I bet her to the punch before she tells me again this time around when I notice my facial features AND my clothes 😉

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@m3h
8 Years

Posted by MademoiselleFisk
Tactless. But I grew up with an Asian mother, so i'm used to it... and you can ask her if being rude about it ever got me to do things.

That's a great way of putting it. Culture definitely has a lot to do with it. Did her approach make you want to do the complete opposite?

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I will eat 3 doughnuts in a single seating while staring at your face

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Ahaha. Love this!

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8 Years

Posted by RockyMountainOysters

Posted by m3h

Posted by RockyMountainOysters

Posted by m3h
If a loved one or a partner tells you "you're getting fat and need to lose weight", would you think of this as something inappropriate / hurtful, or as way of telling you they care about your health?

What's your sign?

That's not tough love.. That's being a dick.

Taurus

My Taurus girlfriend thinks the same way.

Like Boots said, its how things are worded and the tone used. Saying you're fat you need to lose weight is superficial. If you say your blood pressure is through the roof and I want to keep you around a little while you need to work on that, its the exact same message

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Aha I suppose so, but if you rephrase it that way it's not really tough love anymore.

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8 Years

Posted by EvatheDiva52

Posted by m3h
If a loved one or a partner tells you "you're getting fat and need to lose weight", would you think of this as something inappropriate / hurtful, or as way of telling you they care about your health?

What's your sign?

Duh, my sun sign and other info is on my tagline. The latter.

cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

PS: Peeps have got to take constructive criticism with a grain of salt. My mom had mentioned to me I was gaining weight (one can tell with my facial features). Did I cry? No. Did I not speak to her for the rest of my life? No. Did I get offended? No. What did I do? Yep! (went back on my diet, watched what I ate/drank, exercised, etc); even though this was years ago; I bet her to the punch before she tells me again this time around when I notice my facial features AND my clothes

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Aha sounds like a great motivation for you. I guess for some people there's a distinction between a loved one saying "you're gaining weight" and "you're getting fat".

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@AbbyNormal
13 Years5,000+ PostsTaurus

There's tough love and there's tactless. I am a believer in sensitive tough love I guess. Just being realistic with someone yet really listening to how they feel.

Taurus sun

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@m3h
8 Years

Posted by iridium
Thats my Cap moon mother. Took me years to get used to it. My favorite one is saying I should ask dad for a nose job

Yikes. Was she joking?

Did you tell her that it could be from her genes?

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@m3h
8 Years

Posted by AbbyNormal
There's tough love and there's tactless. I am a believer in sensitive tough love I guess. Just being realistic with someone yet really listening to how they feel.

Taurus sun

What would be a sensitive way of doing tough love?

It's a bit hard for me to imagine.

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Posted by MademoiselleFisk

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Posted by MademoiselleFisk
I will eat 3 doughnuts in a single seating while staring at your face

I see your 3 donuts and raise you two more + hot cocoa.

lol. Then inadvertently developing type 2 diabetes for being spiteful.

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Type 2 diabetes is a small price to pay for making my dear mother™ foam at the mouth at every sitting. 😂😂😂

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Yes, but it's all in your delivery. You need to finesse the tough love to majority of people. Some can take it straight though.

Basically you need to know you audience...

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@m3h
8 Years

Posted by WeetzieBat
By the way, "tough love" is for someone who is harming themselves and needs an intervention before they do real damage, like someone who is an addict. Getting a little fat is hardly harming oneself, although getting seriously obese could be.

How can you know where to draw the line?

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Posted by RockyMountainOysters

Posted by m3h
If a loved one or a partner tells you "you're getting fat and need to lose weight", would you think of this as something inappropriate / hurtful, or as way of telling you they care about your health?

What's your sign?

That's not tough love.. That's being a dick.

Taurus

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I second that.

Taurus

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@m3h
8 Years

Posted by LostinmyMind11
Yes, but it's all in your delivery. You need to finesse the tough love to majority of people. Some can take it straight though.

Basically you need to know you audience...

That's a good point. For some, it's hard to see how the message will be perceived by the other person. or just don't care how the message will come across because the message is the same.

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@m3h
8 Years

Posted by iridium

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Thats my Cap moon mother. Took me years to get used to it. My favorite one is saying I should ask dad for a nose job

Yikes. Was she joking?
Did you tell her that it could be from her genes?

No. I’ve asked her before and she said she just didn’t expect me to take it that way

She’s had a nose job to correct something I don’t have

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Ohh. Lol.

Maybe she was projecting her insecurities on you at that time when she said it.

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8 Years

Posted by WeetzieBat

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By the way, "tough love" is for someone who is harming themselves and needs an intervention before they do real damage, like someone who is an addict. Getting a little fat is hardly harming oneself, although getting seriously obese could be.

How can you know where to draw the line?

What is your motivation for bringing it up? Do you really think this is a health issue or is it a matter of finding her less attractive?

Do you really think you are alerting her to something she hasn't noticed? I'd say she's hyper-aware of it, so you telling her does nothing except make her feel bad.

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I see. That's understandable.

Guess for some people tough love is with well-intention, but isn't sensitive of how the message-receiver will perceive the message or isn't sensitive to what the person may think.

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18 Years10,000+ PostsLeo

Posted by m3h
If a loved one or a partner tells you "you're getting fat and need to lose weight", would you think of this as something inappropriate / hurtful, or as way of telling you they care about your health?

What's your sign?

I think most people who comment on their partners gaining weight don't do it out of consideration for their health, no matter how they put it.

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Posted by m3h

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Posted by m3h
If a loved one or a partner tells you "you're getting fat and need to lose weight", would you think of this as something inappropriate / hurtful, or as way of telling you they care about your health?

What's your sign?

Duh, my sun sign and other info is on my tagline. The latter.

cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

PS: Peeps have got to take constructive criticism with a grain of salt. My mom had mentioned to me I was gaining weight (one can tell with my facial features). Did I cry? No. Did I not speak to her for the rest of my life? No. Did I get offended? No. What did I do? Yep! (went back on my diet, watched what I ate/drank, exercised, etc); even though this was years ago; I bet her to the punch before she tells me again this time around when I notice my facial features AND my clothes

Aha sounds like a great motivation for you. I guess for some people there's a distinction between a loved one saying "you're gaining weight" and "you're getting fat".

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Same difference Doll...POTATOE POTATO tomatoe/tomato

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🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

PS: Read on your zodiac sign; Piscean (women) are prone to gain weight (so are female Taureans). Eva shrugs shoulders.

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Posted by m3h

Posted by EvatheDiva52

Posted by m3h
If a loved one or a partner tells you "you're getting fat and need to lose weight", would you think of this as something inappropriate / hurtful, or as way of telling you they care about your health?

What's your sign?

Duh, my sun sign and other info is on my tagline. The latter.

cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

PS: Peeps have got to take constructive criticism with a grain of salt. My mom had mentioned to me I was gaining weight (one can tell with my facial features). Did I cry? No. Did I not speak to her for the rest of my life? No. Did I get offended? No. What did I do? Yep! (went back on my diet, watched what I ate/drank, exercised, etc); even though this was years ago; I bet her to the punch before she tells me again this time around when I notice my facial features AND my clothes

Aha sounds like a great motivation for you. I guess for some people there's a distinction between a loved one saying "you're gaining weight" and "you're getting fat".

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Same difference Doll...POTATOE POTATO tomatoe/tomato

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🤗 cyber hugs!

Love,

Eva

PS: Read on your zodiac sign; Piscean (women) are prone to gain weight (so are female Taureans). Eva shrugs shoulders.

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8 Years

Posted by enfant_terrible

Posted by m3h
If a loved one or a partner tells you "you're getting fat and need to lose weight", would you think of this as something inappropriate / hurtful, or as way of telling you they care about your health?

What's your sign?

I think most people who comment on their partners gaining weight don't do it out of consideration for their health, no matter how they put it.

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So would the people commenting on their partner's weight gain mostly be relaying a message about their attraction (or waning attraction) towards that partner?

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8 Years

Posted by WeetzieBat

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By the way, "tough love" is for someone who is harming themselves and needs an intervention before they do real damage, like someone who is an addict. Getting a little fat is hardly harming oneself, although getting seriously obese could be.

How can you know where to draw the line?

What is your motivation for bringing it up? Do you really think this is a health issue or is it a matter of finding her less attractive?

Do you really think you are alerting her to something she hasn't noticed? I'd say she's hyper-aware of it, so you telling her does nothing except make her feel bad.

I see. That's understandable.
Guess for some people tough love is with well-intention, but isn't sensitive of how the message-receiver will perceive the message or isn't sensitive to what the person may think.

I'm kind of surprised to see I feel so strongly about this, honestly. I personally never had a weight problem, but in my world that is something you DO NOT MENTION unless you are the person's doctor.

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Yeah, it's interesting in some cultures they're open to pointing out things like weight gain without problem.

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Posted by m3h

Posted by Boots1313
I'm okay with tough love. I'm pretty but myself. I think tone and word choice has a lot to do with it also.
My boyfriend told me "if you get fat, were going to just be friends" then he said "wow, that was mean, is it bad that I meant it?!"
I don't know for me it's motivation.
Maybe I'm just better at taking butter , in some aspects

That's true, tone and word would make a difference at first. (How we'll process the information.)
And how we take the message might vary.
Sounds like you guys were having a playful conversation.
At least he was also being honest.

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Yeah we're playful 90% of the time.

When we do need to get "serious" ...we are usually fighting because then its a big deal.

I've been dealing with anxiety and co dependency recently...and at first he was enabeling, then he basically but down his hoof and said "listen, you gotta stop being a child. Because this is going to ultimately be the reason I leave you" ...tough yes, but it was a wake up call and I snapped out orbit and realized I need to really right this more.

Weird dynamic two bulls...bluntness and a lot of wit/ humor.

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Posted by m3h
If a loved one or a partner tells you "you're getting fat and need to lose weight", would you think of this as something inappropriate / hurtful, or as way of telling you they care about your health?

What's your sign?

That's more like - common sense.

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lol, growing up in a very traditional Asian household, tough love was the only kind of love I was ever exposed to. I've developed pretty thick skin as a result, so I guess I believe in it.

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Posted by Boots1313

I'm okay with tough love. I'm pretty blunt myself. I think tone and word choice has a lot to do with it also.

My boyfriend told me "if you get fat, were going to just be friends" then he said "wow, that was mean, is it bad that I meant it?!"

I don't know for me it's motivation.

Maybe I'm just better at taking shit , in some aspects

He forgot to add - if you are pregnant - you better not grow that belly because it’ll make me say shit I will regret...however just deal with this bump somehow so I don’t see it...and if you get sick or something...just move in with your parents...I am not into sick women...and I don’t mean to be a dick...I just am! But I am honest! It has to be a plus. Right?

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Posted by MademoiselleFisk

Tactless. But I grew up with an Asian mother, so i'm used to it... and you can ask her if being rude about it ever got me to do things.

See my mom will just bake tons of sweets to sabatogue me. Biatch.

Jk mom I love you. Keep making those edibles.

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Posted by i-xy

Tough love from my parents didn't help me at all. If anything, it created a lot of insecurities.

My moms tough love haven’t helped and haven’t created insecurities but it thought me when my daughter gained college weight - to not to get on her for it.

She is size 6 now 5’8” and looking amazing.

So...I don’t think tough love is love!

It’s a way for people to bully you pretending or not even pretending to enjoy being bullies!

My Moms weight is now at 5’4” more than mine at 5’7” and I AM concern for her health but I know if I was an ass as she was - I would just laugh and make comments.

But I love her. So I haven’t ever showed her tough love. It’s cruel!

And lead nowhere except hurting people you DONT LOVE!

Tough love about loving yourself and wanting to be with a pretty people...

Makes me appreciate man who fell for me when I was fat as fuck being perfect himself...

As much as I love him - one comment about my appearance would make me say good bye and dismiss him from my life!

Tough love my ass!!!

Those though lovers are all about themselves!

Love is not loving you pretty - it’s loving you because it feels at home.

Want to be tough? Kiss my fat ass!!!

Well...we all still miss it...now it’s jist an ordinary ass...should I gain weight— Lmao

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Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by MademoiselleFisk

Tactless. But I grew up with an Asian mother, so i'm used to it... and you can ask her if being rude about it ever got me to do things.

See my mom will just bake tons of sweets to sabatogue me. Biatch.

Jk mom I love you. Keep making those edibles.

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It wasn’t for you. And you know that! Fat young men are easier to keep from running away...lmao🤣💦