I LOVE ABUSE—

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If you're gonna judge me I'm gonna block your ass... with that being said....

My father was a narc (this word gets thrown around a lot but it's true). I became a co-dependent. Now I am a masochist. I like humiliation, being choked, talked down to and such (not in public but you get my drift and not from a stranger cause I'll kick your ass, I'm still a Taurus after all).

But it's because of this why I'm always in relationship with toxic people. I crave the abuse and then it becomes too much. Well if I didn't keep finding narcs (growing up with one makes you susceptible to them cause you're "trained" to feed them of their sadistic pleasure) and if they were faithful then I would take it... but narc and faithful do not go together and my scorpio mars won't allow infidelity. Anyways pain makes me aroused as well as it makes me work harder when I'm under stress instead of happy... I may not be explaining this correctly but I wish I can find the happy medium.

How do I find a partner who is faithful and understands so I can have a happy medium? Anyone can relate or have anything similar?
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Why don't narc and faithful go together
They constantly want attention and fuel. One woman isn't enough as they don't know how to love. They're emotionless. Which doesn't bother me..... if they could stick to me alone.
Or they can probably be faithful coz they won't have many takers ?
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Oh they always do. You'll be shocked!

They are pros in it. They dedicate their life to find people they need and there are plenty.
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Why don't narc and faithful go together
They constantly want attention and fuel. One woman isn't enough as they don't know how to love. They're emotionless. Which doesn't bother me..... if they could stick to me alone.
Or they can probably be faithful coz they won't have many takers ?
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Lmao gonna have to find me an ugly narc ??
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I'm not sure it's even possible to have the cake and eat it when it comes to this.

I had to ride it out 100% and just enjoy the feeling of masochism until it became boring to me. Then you just sort of move onto different things.

I'd also just own it. Maybe there were reasons related to how I grew up, links to my parents, etc. but the more time you spend coming up with reasons, the less you get to own the experience and see it through to the end.

That's just my 2 cents from my own experience.
"Just own it"

been trying to suppress it and it always comes to the surface. This is a really good advice thank you.

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I think because this want/need is so ingrained into you that, you will need to be more conscious of the men you date. I know it takes some of the fun out of being swept up but by consciously, pausing for a minute and checking in with yourself and making sure you identify the red flags earlier, you will save yourself from some heartache.
Ain't that the truth... that heartache ain't no joke..lol. All jokes to the side you're correct in that taking time to access can benefit me finding that medium. Thank you.
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Why don't narc and faithful go together
They constantly want attention and fuel. One woman isn't enough as they don't know how to love. They're emotionless. Which doesn't bother me..... if they could stick to me alone.
Or they can probably be faithful coz they won't have many takers ?
Oh they always do. You'll be shocked!

They are pros in it. They dedicate their life to find people they need and there are plenty.
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Haha. So like Spunkytaurus said, ugly narcissist is the way!!??
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If you're gonna judge me I'm gonna block your ass... with that being said....

My father was a narc (this word gets thrown around a lot but it's true). I became a co-dependent. Now I am a masochist. I like humiliation, being choked, talked down to and such (not in public but you get my drift and not from a stranger cause I'll kick your ass, I'm still a Taurus after all).

But it's because of this why I'm always in relationship with toxic people. I crave the abuse and then it becomes too much. Well if I didn't keep finding narcs (growing up with one makes you susceptible to them cause you're "trained" to feed them of their sadistic pleasure) and if they were faithful then I would take it... but narc and faithful do not go together and my scorpio mars won't allow infidelity. Anyways pain makes me aroused as well as it makes me work harder when I'm under stress instead of happy... I may not be explaining this correctly but I wish I can find the happy medium.

How do I find a partner who is faithful and understands so I can have a happy medium? Anyone can relate or have anything similar?
Find someone that has scorp sun, mars or heavy 8th house placements. These people will read and feed your need with the use of very little dialogue. The look alone will tell you.

Do you have any 8th house placements or scorp placements other than your mars?



U are in the entertainment industry right? Advertise you are more than likely to find your match under your very nose. 😉
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Thank you this is helpful... I'll look up charts for the people I date from now on... not sure of my time of birth so it stops a lot of placements that I'm unsure about... this is all I know right now... seems like a lot of Scorpio too



Sun in Taurus at 10° 48'.

Moon was in Taurus at 09° 00'.

Mercury in Aries at 27° 08'.

Venus was in Aries at 28° 31'.

Mars in Scorpio at 24° 20'.

Jupiter was in Capricorn at 12° 58'.

Saturn in Scorpio at 13° 16'.

Uranus was in Sagittarius at 12° 47'.

Neptune in Capricorn at 01° 13'.

Pluto was in Scorpio at 00° 28'.
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Why don't narc and faithful go together
They constantly want attention and fuel. One woman isn't enough as they don't know how to love. They're emotionless. Which doesn't bother me..... if they could stick to me alone.
Or they can probably be faithful coz they won't have many takers ?
Oh they always do. You'll be shocked!

They are pros in it. They dedicate their life to find people they need and there are plenty.

Haha. So like Spunkytaurus said, ugly narcissist is the way!!??

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Stop laughing! Do you want to be blocked? Shhheesh!

When did she say that?
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Why don't narc and faithful go together
They constantly want attention and fuel. One woman isn't enough as they don't know how to love. They're emotionless. Which doesn't bother me..... if they could stick to me alone.
Or they can probably be faithful coz they won't have many takers ?
Oh they always do. You'll be shocked!

They are pros in it. They dedicate their life to find people they need and there are plenty.

Haha. So like Spunkytaurus said, ugly narcissist is the way!!??


Stop laughing! Do you want to be blocked? Shhheesh!

When did she say that?
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Is that your way of grounding me—

After your post Gemi??
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Why don't narc and faithful go together
They constantly want attention and fuel. One woman isn't enough as they don't know how to love. They're emotionless. Which doesn't bother me..... if they could stick to me alone.
Or they can probably be faithful coz they won't have many takers ?
Oh they always do. You'll be shocked!

They are pros in it. They dedicate their life to find people they need and there are plenty.

Haha. So like Spunkytaurus said, ugly narcissist is the way!!??


Stop laughing! Do you want to be blocked? Shhheesh!

When did she say that?



?

Is that your way of grounding me—

After your post Gemi??
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read beginning of OP.
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Why don't narc and faithful go together
They constantly want attention and fuel. One woman isn't enough as they don't know how to love. They're emotionless. Which doesn't bother me..... if they could stick to me alone.
Or they can probably be faithful coz they won't have many takers ?
Oh they always do. You'll be shocked!

They are pros in it. They dedicate their life to find people they need and there are plenty.

Haha. So like Spunkytaurus said, ugly narcissist is the way!!??


Stop laughing! Do you want to be blocked? Shhheesh!

When did she say that?



?

Is that your way of grounding me—

After your post Gemi??
read beginning of OP.
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—? yall made my night and nooooo... this aint block worthy lol
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Why don't narc and faithful go together
They constantly want attention and fuel. One woman isn't enough as they don't know how to love. They're emotionless. Which doesn't bother me..... if they could stick to me alone.
Or they can probably be faithful coz they won't have many takers ?
Oh they always do. You'll be shocked!

They are pros in it. They dedicate their life to find people they need and there are plenty.

Haha. So like Spunkytaurus said, ugly narcissist is the way!!??


Stop laughing! Do you want to be blocked? Shhheesh!

When did she say that?



?

Is that your way of grounding me—

After your post Gemi??
read beginning of OP.
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LOL!!!

I need to catch up with your wittiness!!
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Some of the users have pointed out the paradox of your situation, because it's two-fold (thank you @tiziani for sharing that).

First there is your desire and your need to need to sustain it, but second there is your own self esteem/inner narative at work too. In a perfect world, your partner would understand that you "like it rough" and will respect your boundarites in public and private. He'll understand the balance. He'll be loyal without being clingy, and make you crave him the way a traditionally loving partner may not.

The issue first is whether or not YOU understand how that balance should work. As you said, due to the way you were raised, you have a predisposition to this type of behavior. Your relationship/dynamic with your father at a young age manifested so that you naturally gravitate to emotionally selfish and potentially physically abusive men (let's call them the "wrong guys" for now). That stems from the inner narrative you created while observing your father growing up.

Somewhere deep down you feel that these relationships are normal. You crave them because they feel like like "home", which then can be bleed into your desire and sense of love. You grew up craving an emotional connection (as all kids do) from an emotionless parent and as a result only know that type of connection. A connection that is more loving/mushy makes less sense to you internally and turns you off. This type of behavior is also seen in both anxious and avoidant personality types.

You'll need to understand and address that piece of you first so that you can then confront the nature of your sexual desire. As tiziani suggested, it could be a phase that you need to work through. However it would seem that this is something that is deeply rooted with you and could also be part of your personality. By coming to terms with the fact that your codepedency/masochistic tendecies stem from your past, you can start to understand why you operate the way that you do.

There are plenty of guys who can be rough with you (which is generally taboo in our society) while still being loving. It's not easy to find though, but also takes a LOT of self reflection/realization to find a partner that understands you well enough to love you the way you need to be love. Likewise you'll have a more difficult time finding a partner who isn't ACTUALLY abusive and emotionally distance.

This is why you should first focus on your own internaly triggers and behavior. It's highly likely that once you look at WHY you crave these toxic relationships, you eventually stop wanting them. Your masochism may become less potent.
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Are you a middle child?
The baby for my mom (she had me out of wedlock) the 10 out of 16 for my dad
By the way I'm the only one who stayed with him the longest on and off.
Yeah I am an only

People call me a narc on here a lot ?
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@SPUNKYTAURUS This guy is your best bet on dxp. He'll abuse you till you wanna live no more. He actually mentioned he likes to abuse n I can vouch for that.
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Are you maybe also interested in BDSM? I had a friend who was involved in the BDSM community and she seemed to meet up with people who understood her inclinations towards certain type of activities that enter in some of the BDSM categories. As well, you might have better chances meeting more balanced people when in a community. It is taken into account that in such a situation people are aware on why they are attracted to this type of life style and are maybe more mature at separating their personal inclinations from their everyday life.

But as everyone so kindly mentioned, you deserve peace of mind and to leave behind all these burdens you've been carrying around for such a long time. Therapy can help you do so and discover your own hidden potentials.
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Are you a middle child?
The baby for my mom (she had me out of wedlock) the 10 out of 16 for my dad
By the way I'm the only one who stayed with him the longest on and off.
Yeah I am an only

People call me a narc on here a lot ?
@SPUNKYTAURUS This guy is your best bet on dxp. He'll abuse you till you wanna live no more. He actually mentioned he likes to abuse n I can vouch for that.
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— well I like the abuse but does he know when to let up? I don't wanna die from it geez lol
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If you're gonna judge me I'm gonna block your ass... with that being said....

My father was a narc (this word gets thrown around a lot but it's true). I became a co-dependent. Now I am a masochist. I like humiliation, being choked, talked down to and such (not in public but you get my drift and not from a stranger cause I'll kick your ass, I'm still a Taurus after all).

But it's because of this why I'm always in relationship with toxic people. I crave the abuse and then it becomes too much. Well if I didn't keep finding narcs (growing up with one makes you susceptible to them cause you're "trained" to feed them of their sadistic pleasure) and if they were faithful then I would take it... but narc and faithful do not go together and my scorpio mars won't allow infidelity. Anyways pain makes me aroused as well as it makes me work harder when I'm under stress instead of happy... I may not be explaining this correctly but I wish I can find the happy medium.

How do I find a partner who is faithful and understands so I can have a happy medium? Anyone can relate or have anything similar?
Find someone that has scorp sun, mars or heavy 8th house placements. These people will read and feed your need with the use of very little dialogue. The look alone will tell you.

Do you have any 8th house placements or scorp placements other than your mars?



U are in the entertainment industry right? Advertise you are more than likely to find your match under your very nose. 😉
Thank you this is helpful... I'll look up charts for the people I date from now on... not sure of my time of birth so it stops a lot of placements that I'm unsure about... this is all I know right now... seems like a lot of Scorpio too



Sun in Taurus at 10° 48'.

Moon was in Taurus at 09° 00'.

Mercury in Aries at 27° 08'.

Venus was in Aries at 28° 31'.

Mars in Scorpio at 24° 20'.

Jupiter was in Capricorn at 12° 58'.

Saturn in Scorpio at 13° 16'.

Uranus was in Sagittarius at 12° 47'.

Neptune in Capricorn at 01° 13'.

Pluto was in Scorpio at 00° 28'.
I basically think I am on the money as you do have an even mix of fire, earth and water and the water are all in Scorpio.

Do you have the sun signs of your exes and their placements?

Your moon is also in Taurus which makes you very fixed and your Taurus nature is strong. Your Scorpio energy makes you very sexual hence also the entertainment industry which is very 8th house and hedonistic Taurus.

A lot of Taurus folk are in the entertainment industry.

I think from your chart you want someone who will go sexually deep with you but possessively fixed that their only wants and desires are you.

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Thank you for this explanation and it all seems so right! On the damn money! And that last paragraph.... is everything. Exactly on point.
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Are you a middle child?
The baby for my mom (she had me out of wedlock) the 10 out of 16 for my dad
By the way I'm the only one who stayed with him the longest on and off.
Yeah I am an only

People call me a narc on here a lot ?
@SPUNKYTAURUS This guy is your best bet on dxp. He'll abuse you till you wanna live no more. He actually mentioned he likes to abuse n I can vouch for that.
— well I like the abuse but does he know when to let up? I don't wanna die from it geez lol

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LOL!! He doesn't...not at all! Go for it if you're seriously into it tho.He'll literally go by the definition of it?
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Are you a middle child?
The baby for my mom (she had me out of wedlock) the 10 out of 16 for my dad
By the way I'm the only one who stayed with him the longest on and off.
Yeah I am an only

People call me a narc on here a lot ?
@SPUNKYTAURUS This guy is your best bet on dxp. He'll abuse you till you wanna live no more. He actually mentioned he likes to abuse n I can vouch for that.
— well I like the abuse but does he know when to let up? I don't wanna die from it geez lol


LOL!! He doesn't...not at all! Go for it if you're seriously into it tho.He'll literally go by the definition of it?
Teena stop trying to raise my cortisol levels

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See?? This is what I'm talking about

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Are you a middle child?
The baby for my mom (she had me out of wedlock) the 10 out of 16 for my dad
By the way I'm the only one who stayed with him the longest on and off.
Yeah I am an only

People call me a narc on here a lot ?
@SPUNKYTAURUS This guy is your best bet on dxp. He'll abuse you till you wanna live no more. He actually mentioned he likes to abuse n I can vouch for that.
— well I like the abuse but does he know when to let up? I don't wanna die from it geez lol


LOL!! He doesn't...not at all! Go for it if you're seriously into it tho.He'll literally go by the definition of it?
Teena stop trying to raise my cortisol levels



See?? This is what I'm talking about

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I just call it irreconcilable differences ?
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That's the reason for your abuse? You like abuse anyway tho
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Are you a middle child?
The baby for my mom (she had me out of wedlock) the 10 out of 16 for my dad
By the way I'm the only one who stayed with him the longest on and off.
Yeah I am an only

People call me a narc on here a lot ?
@SPUNKYTAURUS This guy is your best bet on dxp. He'll abuse you till you wanna live no more. He actually mentioned he likes to abuse n I can vouch for that.
— well I like the abuse but does he know when to let up? I don't wanna die from it geez lol


LOL!! He doesn't...not at all! Go for it if you're seriously into it tho.He'll literally go by the definition of it?
Teena stop trying to raise my cortisol levels



See?? This is what I'm talking about

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I just call it irreconcilable differences ?
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That's the reason for your abuse? You like abuse anyway tho
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Posted by SPUNKYTAURUS
If you're gonna judge me I'm gonna block your ass... with that being said....

My father was a narc (this word gets thrown around a lot but it's true). I became a co-dependent. Now I am a masochist. I like humiliation, being choked, talked down to and such (not in public but you get my drift and not from a stranger cause I'll kick your ass, I'm still a Taurus after all).

But it's because of this why I'm always in relationship with toxic people. I crave the abuse and then it becomes too much. Well if I didn't keep finding narcs (growing up with one makes you susceptible to them cause you're "trained" to feed them of their sadistic pleasure) and if they were faithful then I would take it... but narc and faithful do not go together and my scorpio mars won't allow infidelity. Anyways pain makes me aroused as well as it makes me work harder when I'm under stress instead of happy... I may not be explaining this correctly but I wish I can find the happy medium.

How do I find a partner who is faithful and understands so I can have a happy medium? Anyone can relate or have anything similar?
no i can't relate.

i dont like abuse.



i dont want them to hurt me. i want kindness and sweetness.

but also be tough.

but no abuse please.



maybe because you are heavy earth, and there are astrology sites about ALGOL.



the evil ALGOL.

and you have alot of fixed signs in your chart. 😢

so be careful you dont find someone who is going to really abuse you like beat you up.

i never liked anyone hurting me, but for some reason i attracted that in the past.

after my 2nd ex, all i attracted are good men who don't hurt. which is awesome. Good men who dont ever touch you in cruelty is the best.

maybe you need to exert your energy in sports?



i notice alot of women in our family who have strong FIXED energy, are athletic women.

two of my man's FEMALE cousins are super athletic, and they are scorpio suns with Leo mars, and stellium in fixed signs. They have to EXERT their energy outward into the world. and be super athletic.

and they find the passive sweet men who take care of the household. It's so interesting!!!
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hm that's why i was saying, women like you, OP need a SPORT,

you know that lady, what's her name..... the one who is a professional tennis player?

Serena Williams??

that woman is TOUGH.

she has Libra sun/Virgo moon/Leo mars. Taurus rising....plus, she has a Cardinal strength, that is all about

control: Libra sun, Saturn, Pluto, mercury, tight. so that means she has to be in CONTROL.

and she took it with her professionalism.

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Serena_Williams



you can exert your energy into ways that is more productive.