
MyStarsShine
@MyStarsShine
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Posted by TheLadyScorpioKnowing me and the out there ARIES rising, it was pretty early on, yes
How did you manage going about that conversation and did you talk about it the first time you met, the first date ?

Posted by Squishy_MarshmallowI guess it's about being clear and assertive
Idk
I think it was easier for me when I was like 16+ to go out and get a bf on the spot.
Now it's so confusing and I don't know. I don't get it plus I get told I give mixed signals and I don't even know what type of mixed signals I give.
Dating isn't for me. I'm too possessive to waste time on guys who are interested in many girls. I want a guy who will tell me what is what. I kinda do well with possessive type guys 😢
As such guys hardly approach me. They may look but they don't come and talk to me unless they are very artistic or very confident. It sucks... plus I don't know to read interest well, so I assume they aren't interested
Life is easier when guys are friends and I go by that rule.
And I hate hate push and pull games. And blurred lines.
Having said that I appreciate guys who put efforts... I really do. Sometimes I may not see it or not notice what it takes for them to put themself out there. Rejection isn't easy to handle- whether guy or girl.

Posted by nanoYes, being clear and being heard
My experiences have been similar for the most part, I have steered clear of the limbo grey areas. I just don't have the patience and hold myself to a higher standard than to not know where I stand in someone's life like that. If it's a relationship, great.. if it's just sex, great too... as long as we are on the SAME page. My 3 LTR's with men had the 3 men pushing for exclusivity. My first ever relationship at 16 with a gemini sun/cancer moon started with me not knowing what we were, but I wasn't sweating it at the time, and he said "That hurts me for you to not know.... You are my girlfriend!"
The worst part is that the unclear boundaries between two people usually end in the man being the villain nowadays. If you go on 1 date with a man, have sex with him, and then say nothing else about it, then you've likely made your made that you now have to lie in... because women create all these scenarios and expectations in their head after the fact. The dude just thought it was sex! Which is what we are seeing here on DXP regularly. You have to clearly state what you want at the start, listen to what he says, communicate, and it really is that simple.

Posted by MyStarsShineYour Ram rising, does not scare away the men ? What is the success rate of being that forward ?Posted by TheLadyScorpioKnowing me and the out there ARIES rising, it was pretty early on, yes
How did you manage going about that conversation and did you talk about it the first time you met, the first date ?
It was before Tinder and all that shitty swiping, throwaway dating stuff
I would not do that if my life depended on it
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Posted by Squishy_MarshmallowYou could make one!!Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by Squishy_MarshmallowI guess it's about being clear and assertive
Idk
I think it was easier for me when I was like 16+ to go out and get a bf on the spot.
Now it's so confusing and I don't know. I don't get it plus I get told I give mixed signals and I don't even know what type of mixed signals I give.
Dating isn't for me. I'm too possessive to waste time on guys who are interested in many girls. I want a guy who will tell me what is what. I kinda do well with possessive type guys 😢
As such guys hardly approach me. They may look but they don't come and talk to me unless they are very artistic or very confident. It sucks... plus I don't know to read interest well, so I assume they aren't interested
Life is easier when guys are friends and I go by that rule.
And I hate hate push and pull games. And blurred lines.
Having said that I appreciate guys who put efforts... I really do. Sometimes I may not see it or not notice what it takes for them to put themself out there. Rejection isn't easy to handle- whether guy or girl.
Doesn't seem fair on the bloke or woman if there's ambiguity involved
I am confident when I'm around people. One on one if I like the guy, I mess up. I'm all awkward. Entire aura changes ROFL
Plus whenever guys talk to me I tell myself they are being polite. I go with that because I have seen girls assume and get hurt. And I feel it would be impudence to assume otherwise.
I wish someone would create a thread about mixed signals.click to expand

Posted by TheLadyScorpioThey told me they were drawn to my warmth 😊Posted by MyStarsShineYour Ram rising, does not scare away the men ? What is the success rate of being that forward ?Posted by TheLadyScorpioKnowing me and the out there ARIES rising, it was pretty early on, yes
How did you manage going about that conversation and did you talk about it the first time you met, the first date ?
It was before Tinder and all that shitty swiping, throwaway dating stuff
I would not do that if my life depended on it
Often times, when I find myself cautious, holding back initially. Observing their level of interest, waiting until they have expressed it multiple times, and in response I become forward. Then almost always, like clockwork, they would either become distant, slow down, or disappear.
It both frustrates me, and pisses me off. It feels like an utter waste of my time. However, I do get the answer I need. The men were not ready, had baggage, or were commitment adverse.
The more aloof, cold I am, bordering on being a female dog as it were. As if I do not care, and they mean nothing to me. Then they would all flock to me, men are such masochists. 😐click to expand

Posted by MyStarsShineI do not know what your secret is, but my warmth merely frightens men.Posted by TheLadyScorpioThey told me they were drawn to my warmth 😊Posted by MyStarsShineYour Ram rising, does not scare away the men ? What is the success rate of being that forward ?Posted by TheLadyScorpioKnowing me and the out there ARIES rising, it was pretty early on, yes
How did you manage going about that conversation and did you talk about it the first time you met, the first date ?
It was before Tinder and all that shitty swiping, throwaway dating stuff
I would not do that if my life depended on it
Often times, when I find myself cautious, holding back initially. Observing their level of interest, waiting until they have expressed it multiple times, and in response I become forward. Then almost always, like clockwork, they would either become distant, slow down, or disappear.
It both frustrates me, and pisses me off. It feels like an utter waste of my time. However, I do get the answer I need. The men were not ready, had baggage, or were commitment adverse.
The more aloof, cold I am, bordering on being a female dog as it were. As if I do not care, and they mean nothing to me. Then they would all flock to me, men are such masochists. 😐click to expand

Posted by TheLadyScorpioOh God, what a question 😆Posted by MyStarsShineI do not know what your secret is, but my warmth merely frightens men.Posted by TheLadyScorpioThey told me they were drawn to my warmth 😊Posted by MyStarsShineYour Ram rising, does not scare away the men ? What is the success rate of being that forward ?Posted by TheLadyScorpioKnowing me and the out there ARIES rising, it was pretty early on, yes
How did you manage going about that conversation and did you talk about it the first time you met, the first date ?
It was before Tinder and all that shitty swiping, throwaway dating stuff
I would not do that if my life depended on it
Often times, when I find myself cautious, holding back initially. Observing their level of interest, waiting until they have expressed it multiple times, and in response I become forward. Then almost always, like clockwork, they would either become distant, slow down, or disappear.
It both frustrates me, and pisses me off. It feels like an utter waste of my time. However, I do get the answer I need. The men were not ready, had baggage, or were commitment adverse.
The more aloof, cold I am, bordering on being a female dog as it were. As if I do not care, and they mean nothing to me. Then they would all flock to me, men are such masochists. 😐
Do share with a fellow Stinger your secrets, I need some of it. 😆click to expand

Posted by MyStarsShineAh, then I will put it up to not having met a compatible match yet. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioOh God, what a question 😆Posted by MyStarsShineI do not know what your secret is, but my warmth merely frightens men.Posted by TheLadyScorpioThey told me they were drawn to my warmth 😊Posted by MyStarsShineYour Ram rising, does not scare away the men ? What is the success rate of being that forward ?Posted by TheLadyScorpioKnowing me and the out there ARIES rising, it was pretty early on, yes
How did you manage going about that conversation and did you talk about it the first time you met, the first date ?
It was before Tinder and all that shitty swiping, throwaway dating stuff
I would not do that if my life depended on it
Often times, when I find myself cautious, holding back initially. Observing their level of interest, waiting until they have expressed it multiple times, and in response I become forward. Then almost always, like clockwork, they would either become distant, slow down, or disappear.
It both frustrates me, and pisses me off. It feels like an utter waste of my time. However, I do get the answer I need. The men were not ready, had baggage, or were commitment adverse.
The more aloof, cold I am, bordering on being a female dog as it were. As if I do not care, and they mean nothing to me. Then they would all flock to me, men are such masochists. 😐
Do share with a fellow Stinger your secrets, I need some of it. 😆
I'm told lol....
Softly spoken, easy to talk to, not snobby, caring, nurturing, playful, sensual....etc etc
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Posted by TheLadyScorpioIt's not you.......it's themPosted by MyStarsShineAh, then I will put it up to not having met a compatible match yet. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioOh God, what a question 😆Posted by MyStarsShineI do not know what your secret is, but my warmth merely frightens men.Posted by TheLadyScorpioThey told me they were drawn to my warmth 😊Posted by MyStarsShineYour Ram rising, does not scare away the men ? What is the success rate of being that forward ?Posted by TheLadyScorpioKnowing me and the out there ARIES rising, it was pretty early on, yes
How did you manage going about that conversation and did you talk about it the first time you met, the first date ?
It was before Tinder and all that shitty swiping, throwaway dating stuff
I would not do that if my life depended on it
Often times, when I find myself cautious, holding back initially. Observing their level of interest, waiting until they have expressed it multiple times, and in response I become forward. Then almost always, like clockwork, they would either become distant, slow down, or disappear.
It both frustrates me, and pisses me off. It feels like an utter waste of my time. However, I do get the answer I need. The men were not ready, had baggage, or were commitment adverse.
The more aloof, cold I am, bordering on being a female dog as it were. As if I do not care, and they mean nothing to me. Then they would all flock to me, men are such masochists. 😐
Do share with a fellow Stinger your secrets, I need some of it. 😆
I'm told lol....
Softly spoken, easy to talk to, not snobby, caring, nurturing, playful, sensual....etc etc
😛click to expand

Posted by MyStarsShineIt must be. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioIt's not you.......it's themPosted by MyStarsShineAh, then I will put it up to not having met a compatible match yet. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioOh God, what a question 😆Posted by MyStarsShineI do not know what your secret is, but my warmth merely frightens men.Posted by TheLadyScorpioThey told me they were drawn to my warmth 😊Posted by MyStarsShineYour Ram rising, does not scare away the men ? What is the success rate of being that forward ?Posted by TheLadyScorpioKnowing me and the out there ARIES rising, it was pretty early on, yes
How did you manage going about that conversation and did you talk about it the first time you met, the first date ?
It was before Tinder and all that shitty swiping, throwaway dating stuff
I would not do that if my life depended on it
Often times, when I find myself cautious, holding back initially. Observing their level of interest, waiting until they have expressed it multiple times, and in response I become forward. Then almost always, like clockwork, they would either become distant, slow down, or disappear.
It both frustrates me, and pisses me off. It feels like an utter waste of my time. However, I do get the answer I need. The men were not ready, had baggage, or were commitment adverse.
The more aloof, cold I am, bordering on being a female dog as it were. As if I do not care, and they mean nothing to me. Then they would all flock to me, men are such masochists. 😐
Do share with a fellow Stinger your secrets, I need some of it. 😆
I'm told lol....
Softly spoken, easy to talk to, not snobby, caring, nurturing, playful, sensual....etc etc
😛
😆click to expand

Posted by TheLadyScorpio🙂Posted by MyStarsShineIt must be. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioIt's not you.......it's themPosted by MyStarsShineAh, then I will put it up to not having met a compatible match yet. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioOh God, what a question 😆Posted by MyStarsShineI do not know what your secret is, but my warmth merely frightens men.Posted by TheLadyScorpioThey told me they were drawn to my warmth 😊Posted by MyStarsShineYour Ram rising, does not scare away the men ? What is the success rate of being that forward ?Posted by TheLadyScorpioKnowing me and the out there ARIES rising, it was pretty early on, yes
How did you manage going about that conversation and did you talk about it the first time you met, the first date ?
It was before Tinder and all that shitty swiping, throwaway dating stuff
I would not do that if my life depended on it
Often times, when I find myself cautious, holding back initially. Observing their level of interest, waiting until they have expressed it multiple times, and in response I become forward. Then almost always, like clockwork, they would either become distant, slow down, or disappear.
It both frustrates me, and pisses me off. It feels like an utter waste of my time. However, I do get the answer I need. The men were not ready, had baggage, or were commitment adverse.
The more aloof, cold I am, bordering on being a female dog as it were. As if I do not care, and they mean nothing to me. Then they would all flock to me, men are such masochists. 😐
Do share with a fellow Stinger your secrets, I need some of it. 😆
I'm told lol....
Softly spoken, easy to talk to, not snobby, caring, nurturing, playful, sensual....etc etc
😛
😆
Were you also this forward from the beginning, when you were with that past Ram lover of yours ?click to expand

Posted by MyStarsShineI see, so when did you express your strong interest in return ? Were you blunt about it ? He did not pull away, not even right after you expressing yourself ?Posted by TheLadyScorpio🙂Posted by MyStarsShineIt must be. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioIt's not you.......it's themPosted by MyStarsShineAh, then I will put it up to not having met a compatible match yet. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioOh God, what a question 😆Posted by MyStarsShineI do not know what your secret is, but my warmth merely frightens men.Posted by TheLadyScorpioThey told me they were drawn to my warmth 😊Posted by MyStarsShineYour Ram rising, does not scare away the men ? What is the success rate of being that forward ?Posted by TheLadyScorpioKnowing me and the out there ARIES rising, it was pretty early on, yes
How did you manage going about that conversation and did you talk about it the first time you met, the first date ?
It was before Tinder and all that shitty swiping, throwaway dating stuff
I would not do that if my life depended on it
Often times, when I find myself cautious, holding back initially. Observing their level of interest, waiting until they have expressed it multiple times, and in response I become forward. Then almost always, like clockwork, they would either become distant, slow down, or disappear.
It both frustrates me, and pisses me off. It feels like an utter waste of my time. However, I do get the answer I need. The men were not ready, had baggage, or were commitment adverse.
The more aloof, cold I am, bordering on being a female dog as it were. As if I do not care, and they mean nothing to me. Then they would all flock to me, men are such masochists. 😐
Do share with a fellow Stinger your secrets, I need some of it. 😆
I'm told lol....
Softly spoken, easy to talk to, not snobby, caring, nurturing, playful, sensual....etc etc
😛
😆
Were you also this forward from the beginning, when you were with that past Ram lover of yours ?
The Ram, I met online....he approached me and we talked for a few days and arranged to meet after 9 days. He came on very strong..it was always long distance so always a bit strange but I did say to him about not sharing. He was very faithful and always waited to see me. Very intelligent guy....well educated and the only one who matched my passion, but in other ways nor so good
He did always chase me though, bless him
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Posted by TheLadyScorpioHe was younger so I had to be careful as i knew it would have to end at some point. He never pulled away as most of the time we were having sex haahaa.. He told me he loved me first which was lovely. I set boundaries but didn't swamp him too soon, except physically of course 💋Posted by MyStarsShineI see, so when did you express your strong interest in return ? Were you blunt about it ? He did not pull away, not even right after you expressing yourself ?Posted by TheLadyScorpio🙂Posted by MyStarsShineIt must be. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioIt's not you.......it's themPosted by MyStarsShineAh, then I will put it up to not having met a compatible match yet. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioOh God, what a question 😆Posted by MyStarsShineI do not know what your secret is, but my warmth merely frightens men.Posted by TheLadyScorpioThey told me they were drawn to my warmth 😊Posted by MyStarsShineYour Ram rising, does not scare away the men ? What is the success rate of being that forward ?Posted by TheLadyScorpioKnowing me and the out there ARIES rising, it was pretty early on, yes
How did you manage going about that conversation and did you talk about it the first time you met, the first date ?
It was before Tinder and all that shitty swiping, throwaway dating stuff
I would not do that if my life depended on it
Often times, when I find myself cautious, holding back initially. Observing their level of interest, waiting until they have expressed it multiple times, and in response I become forward. Then almost always, like clockwork, they would either become distant, slow down, or disappear.
It both frustrates me, and pisses me off. It feels like an utter waste of my time. However, I do get the answer I need. The men were not ready, had baggage, or were commitment adverse.
The more aloof, cold I am, bordering on being a female dog as it were. As if I do not care, and they mean nothing to me. Then they would all flock to me, men are such masochists. 😐
Do share with a fellow Stinger your secrets, I need some of it. 😆
I'm told lol....
Softly spoken, easy to talk to, not snobby, caring, nurturing, playful, sensual....etc etc
😛
😆
Were you also this forward from the beginning, when you were with that past Ram lover of yours ?
The Ram, I met online....he approached me and we talked for a few days and arranged to meet after 9 days. He came on very strong..it was always long distance so always a bit strange but I did say to him about not sharing. He was very faithful and always waited to see me. Very intelligent guy....well educated and the only one who matched my passion, but in other ways nor so good
He did always chase me though, bless him
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Posted by TheLadyScorpioNo prob Lady
@MyStarsShine , excuse my questions.
I have little recent experience with Ram gents, therefore trying to decide when and if I should call it quits.

Posted by tizianiDid you always have long rships @tiziani ?
It's always been easier to just avoid dating altogether for me.

Posted by TimonMe neither Miss
I don't think I'm ready for the modern dating world. Actually I don't think I'm ready to date at all. 😛

Posted by MyStarsShineHard to tell, his line of work has him constantly surrounded by women. However, he told me, the attention he gets is nice at first, but he does not particularly enjoy it, because eventually he gets objectified a lot. Sure he said, he had a lot of fun and sex, but one night stands or anything casual began melting into this faceless mass of meaningless people that you have no connection with.Posted by TheLadyScorpioNo prob Lady
@MyStarsShine , excuse my questions.
I have little recent experience with Ram gents, therefore trying to decide when and if I should call it quits.
If you think he is seeing other women, maybe you ask him and then decide if that's what you want. Have you said that to him ?click to expand

Posted by TheLadyScorpioMy gut feeling says he feels under pressure....I sense some fear in himPosted by MyStarsShineHard to tell, his line of work has him constantly surrounded by women. However, he told me, the attention he gets is nice at first, but he does not particularly enjoy it, because eventually he gets objectified a lot. Sure he said, he had a lot of fun and sex, but one night stands or anything casual began melting into this faceless mass of meaningless people that you have no connection with.Posted by TheLadyScorpioNo prob Lady
@MyStarsShine , excuse my questions.
I have little recent experience with Ram gents, therefore trying to decide when and if I should call it quits.
If you think he is seeing other women, maybe you ask him and then decide if that's what you want. Have you said that to him ?
We both spoke of our past love histories, and where we are now. In fact, he shared the detailed history of every relationship he had with me, and then asked quite a bit about my past, though I could sense he found it hard to listen to me speak of my exes, yet he wanted to know. He has been single for six - seven years, since his break up from his ex, a four year relationship that was. She cheated on him, with his childhood best friend, and they are still together.
All he said was, now he was looking for someone that will accept him for who he is, without wanting to change him, and he will stop all contact with other women to be with her, once he decides to commit. He kept telling me, he was single, if he was with any other women, he would not be speaking with me. However, he did also mention that he is not where he ideally wants to be yet financially or career wise, in order to begin a family and have children.
I did express my interest, and said lets see each other again soon, I would like to (as a part of that brief mid - week conversation he left hanging). Recently today, again after a brief conversation asked if he had any plans yet, if he was free tomorrow (prior he kept mentioning his days off, particularly about the coming next few days, always mentioning that it will be his birthday soon). He instantly read it, but have yet to respond.click to expand


Posted by MyStarsShineI sense it too after my message today, but I did not want to waste my time nor his and wanted to make my interest known. He did say he hated when people take him for a round a bout, he rather it known, and known now. Fret not, I will not say more after having said what I have. If I do, it would be clingy, needy, and desperate ... which I am not. I am only merely deciding, whether to simply pull back or quit it altogether.Posted by TheLadyScorpioMy gut feeling says he feels under pressure....I sense some fear in himPosted by MyStarsShineHard to tell, his line of work has him constantly surrounded by women. However, he told me, the attention he gets is nice at first, but he does not particularly enjoy it, because eventually he gets objectified a lot. Sure he said, he had a lot of fun and sex, but one night stands or anything casual began melting into this faceless mass of meaningless people that you have no connection with.Posted by TheLadyScorpioNo prob Lady
@MyStarsShine , excuse my questions.
I have little recent experience with Ram gents, therefore trying to decide when and if I should call it quits.
If you think he is seeing other women, maybe you ask him and then decide if that's what you want. Have you said that to him ?
We both spoke of our past love histories, and where we are now. In fact, he shared the detailed history of every relationship he had with me, and then asked quite a bit about my past, though I could sense he found it hard to listen to me speak of my exes, yet he wanted to know. He has been single for six - seven years, since his break up from his ex, a four year relationship that was. She cheated on him, with his childhood best friend, and they are still together.
All he said was, now he was looking for someone that will accept him for who he is, without wanting to change him, and he will stop all contact with other women to be with her, once he decides to commit. He kept telling me, he was single, if he was with any other women, he would not be speaking with me. However, he did also mention that he is not where he ideally wants to be yet financially or career wise, in order to begin a family and have children.
I did express my interest, and said lets see each other again soon, I would like to (as a part of that brief mid - week conversation he left hanging). Recently today, again after a brief conversation asked if he had any plans yet, if he was free tomorrow (prior he kept mentioning his days off, particularly about the coming next few days, always mentioning that it will be his birthday soon). He instantly read it, but have yet to respond.
Maybe you pull right back, for now......stay busy and hold on that Scorpio intensity
R-e-l-a-x
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Posted by BlackburnDating, a universal topic we could all bemoan about. 😆
I don't see that much of a shift. Straightforward people keep being straightforward, shy ones keep being shy, liars keep being liars. Love is love and the internet is just a tool. Dating sucks for me. Planning sucks for me. Things happen or not, I hate the feeling of interference.

Posted by TheLadyScorpioSaid he loved you...so soon? The Ram I was with said it after six months, and not when we were having sex....I believed him.Posted by MyStarsShineI sense it too after my message today, but I did not want to waste my time nor his and wanted to make my interest known. He did say he hated when people take him for a round a bout, he rather it known, and known now. Fret not, I will not say more after having said what I have. If I do, it would be clingy, needy, and desperate ... which I am not. I am only merely deciding, whether to simply pull back or quit it altogether.Posted by TheLadyScorpioMy gut feeling says he feels under pressure....I sense some fear in himPosted by MyStarsShineHard to tell, his line of work has him constantly surrounded by women. However, he told me, the attention he gets is nice at first, but he does not particularly enjoy it, because eventually he gets objectified a lot. Sure he said, he had a lot of fun and sex, but one night stands or anything casual began melting into this faceless mass of meaningless people that you have no connection with.Posted by TheLadyScorpioNo prob Lady
@MyStarsShine , excuse my questions.
I have little recent experience with Ram gents, therefore trying to decide when and if I should call it quits.
If you think he is seeing other women, maybe you ask him and then decide if that's what you want. Have you said that to him ?
We both spoke of our past love histories, and where we are now. In fact, he shared the detailed history of every relationship he had with me, and then asked quite a bit about my past, though I could sense he found it hard to listen to me speak of my exes, yet he wanted to know. He has been single for six - seven years, since his break up from his ex, a four year relationship that was. She cheated on him, with his childhood best friend, and they are still together.
All he said was, now he was looking for someone that will accept him for who he is, without wanting to change him, and he will stop all contact with other women to be with her, once he decides to commit. He kept telling me, he was single, if he was with any other women, he would not be speaking with me. However, he did also mention that he is not where he ideally wants to be yet financially or career wise, in order to begin a family and have children.
I did express my interest, and said lets see each other again soon, I would like to (as a part of that brief mid - week conversation he left hanging). Recently today, again after a brief conversation asked if he had any plans yet, if he was free tomorrow (prior he kept mentioning his days off, particularly about the coming next few days, always mentioning that it will be his birthday soon). He instantly read it, but have yet to respond.
Maybe you pull right back, for now......stay busy and hold on that Scorpio intensity
R-e-l-a-x
❤️
Thank you dear stars, breathing meditations, doing all I can to increase my work load, keeping all the intensity under lock and chain. 😆
He was the one that said he loved me during sex, the first time we met. I internally laughed because it was all the chemicals in his brain, causing him to spew such emotional verbiage. No man could hardly mean it, nor did I believe it. Once he came down from it, he kept saying but I like you a lot and I would like to see you again. How about once a week ? (He has mostly only one day off with his busy schedule and long hours, even then he may be working.) He kept asking, and asking. Then doing all he could to get my number, which he still does not have. Admittedly, his initial persistency, made me panic, I felt pressured. It took me a good few days, of calming down, before I reached out to him. That was how we organised our second meet up.
Fear or apprehension in him ?
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Posted by MyStarsShineYes, and of course I was not silly enough to believe him. We had simply just met that night, where he essentially opened himself very vulnerably to me. There was no shallow flirting, or initial warm up getting to you know you process (or even any flirting at all, it was all genuine conversations, the flirting did not come until far later near the end of our second meet up). Frankly, I was taken a back because he knew nothing about me at the time. Yet, he kept telling me all these things about himself.Posted by TheLadyScorpioSaid he loved you...so soon? The Ram I was with said it after six months, and not when we were having sex....I believed him.Posted by MyStarsShineI sense it too after my message today, but I did not want to waste my time nor his and wanted to make my interest known. He did say he hated when people take him for a round a bout, he rather it known, and known now. Fret not, I will not say more after having said what I have. If I do, it would be clingy, needy, and desperate ... which I am not. I am only merely deciding, whether to simply pull back or quit it altogether.Posted by TheLadyScorpioMy gut feeling says he feels under pressure....I sense some fear in himPosted by MyStarsShineHard to tell, his line of work has him constantly surrounded by women. However, he told me, the attention he gets is nice at first, but he does not particularly enjoy it, because eventually he gets objectified a lot. Sure he said, he had a lot of fun and sex, but one night stands or anything casual began melting into this faceless mass of meaningless people that you have no connection with.Posted by TheLadyScorpioNo prob Lady
@MyStarsShine , excuse my questions.
I have little recent experience with Ram gents, therefore trying to decide when and if I should call it quits.
If you think he is seeing other women, maybe you ask him and then decide if that's what you want. Have you said that to him ?
We both spoke of our past love histories, and where we are now. In fact, he shared the detailed history of every relationship he had with me, and then asked quite a bit about my past, though I could sense he found it hard to listen to me speak of my exes, yet he wanted to know. He has been single for six - seven years, since his break up from his ex, a four year relationship that was. She cheated on him, with his childhood best friend, and they are still together.
All he said was, now he was looking for someone that will accept him for who he is, without wanting to change him, and he will stop all contact with other women to be with her, once he decides to commit. He kept telling me, he was single, if he was with any other women, he would not be speaking with me. However, he did also mention that he is not where he ideally wants to be yet financially or career wise, in order to begin a family and have children.
I did express my interest, and said lets see each other again soon, I would like to (as a part of that brief mid - week conversation he left hanging). Recently today, again after a brief conversation asked if he had any plans yet, if he was free tomorrow (prior he kept mentioning his days off, particularly about the coming next few days, always mentioning that it will be his birthday soon). He instantly read it, but have yet to respond.
Maybe you pull right back, for now......stay busy and hold on that Scorpio intensity
R-e-l-a-x
❤️
Thank you dear stars, breathing meditations, doing all I can to increase my work load, keeping all the intensity under lock and chain. 😆
He was the one that said he loved me during sex, the first time we met. I internally laughed because it was all the chemicals in his brain, causing him to spew such emotional verbiage. No man could hardly mean it, nor did I believe it. Once he came down from it, he kept saying but I like you a lot and I would like to see you again. How about once a week ? (He has mostly only one day off with his busy schedule and long hours, even then he may be working.) He kept asking, and asking. Then doing all he could to get my number, which he still does not have. Admittedly, his initial persistency, made me panic, I felt pressured. It took me a good few days, of calming down, before I reached out to him. That was how we organised our second meet up.
Fear or apprehension in him ?
He doesn't have your phone number ... how do you communicate ?
Fearful
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Posted by TheLadyScorpio
Dating, a universal topic we could all bemoan about. 😆

Posted by BlackburnAs a simpleton, trust me. Complicated people, the ratio of them against people like us.Posted by TheLadyScorpio
Dating, a universal topic we could all bemoan about. 😆
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I heard so *shivers* I wouldn't be able to keep up with the seemingly prestablished dance dating requires. Complicated people should simplify. If you know yourself - or what you want now - you'll know what you are willing to stand to reach it.click to expand

Posted by WittyGem88Great advice and words.
In my experience, I have always had an exclusive relationship except when I have decided it not to be. Which only happened once coz I wasnt ready.
Anyway, I think you made a good point. Many women stay in the grey area. Its because they never ask. I ask if he wants exclusivity because I dont want to share him with other women. Why would I? I would be wasting my time. Of he runs away, starts saying its going to fast then thats a red flag for me. I automatically downgrade that man. I always think someone who pursues me should already know that he wants me only for himself. And this is also why I never chase men. Especially in the early stage. I can chase men but chances are, if they didnt work hard to get me, they will be fine without me and exclusivity is harder to get.
Many told me modern times, go free, we can act like men (thats how most women interpret feminism) but I dont agree. I think i need to continue being a woman in a man’s world when it comes to dating. And I dont mean shower me with presents or pay the bills for me forever. I mean respect me like a woman and dont put me in a situation where I dont know where I stand.

Posted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by BlackburnAs a simpleton, trust me. Complicated people, the ratio of them against people like us.Posted by TheLadyScorpio
Dating, a universal topic we could all bemoan about. 😆
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I heard so *shivers* I wouldn't be able to keep up with the seemingly prestablished dance dating requires. Complicated people should simplify. If you know yourself - or what you want now - you'll know what you are willing to stand to reach it.
Shall we say, we would be enveloped whole, multiple times over. The numbers are not in our favour. 😆click to expand


Posted by BlackburnI used to bother finding out the why, but as time passes me by and I get older. Frankly, I care not to figure that out.Posted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by BlackburnAs a simpleton, trust me. Complicated people, the ratio of them against people like us.Posted by TheLadyScorpio
Dating, a universal topic we could all bemoan about. 😆
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I heard so *shivers* I wouldn't be able to keep up with the seemingly prestablished dance dating requires. Complicated people should simplify. If you know yourself - or what you want now - you'll know what you are willing to stand to reach it.
Shall we say, we would be enveloped whole, multiple times over. The numbers are not in our favour. 😆
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When you encounter complicated people it should be telling you something, where's the real complication and why.click to expand

Posted by WittyGem88I need myself some good old reliable Twin Detachment. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioWahahhaha I do the downgrading A LOT. More than those that I actually end up with. Its like I always get that “What would mum do?” If she was in my situation. When they get downgraded it takes so much more than just dating for them to get upgraded again. Sometimes, there is no chance and I cut them off. Fortunately, the gemini detachment comes in handy. I can cut off someone without a word if I sense he doesnt want to be exclusive. My current bf, I asked him on the third date if I should continue seeing other men. He immediately responded No and said he wont see other women too. And that was knowing we will be in LDR and it wont be easy because of the distance.Posted by WittyGem88Great advice and words.
In my experience, I have always had an exclusive relationship except when I have decided it not to be. Which only happened once coz I wasnt ready.
Anyway, I think you made a good point. Many women stay in the grey area. Its because they never ask. I ask if he wants exclusivity because I dont want to share him with other women. Why would I? I would be wasting my time. Of he runs away, starts saying its going to fast then thats a red flag for me. I automatically downgrade that man. I always think someone who pursues me should already know that he wants me only for himself. And this is also why I never chase men. Especially in the early stage. I can chase men but chances are, if they didnt work hard to get me, they will be fine without me and exclusivity is harder to get.
Many told me modern times, go free, we can act like men (thats how most women interpret feminism) but I dont agree. I think i need to continue being a woman in a man’s world when it comes to dating. And I dont mean shower me with presents or pay the bills for me forever. I mean respect me like a woman and dont put me in a situation where I dont know where I stand.
Hah, at your usage of 'downgrade'. More women should definitely downgrade the men in their lives, myself included. 😆click to expand

Posted by TheLadyScorpio
I used to bother finding out the why, but as time passes me by and I get older. Frankly, I care not to figure that out.
Of course, I am curious, if I have an inkling as to why. Normally, I would already try to force myself to hold back, or decide to move on.
There is no solving other peoples complications, it is their baggage to carry alone.


Posted by WittyGem88Hah, and I am a Stinger myself as well.Posted by TheLadyScorpioHahaha! I learned those things from my mum and she’s a scorp to the core. WahahahhahaPosted by WittyGem88I need myself some good old reliable Twin Detachment. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioWahahhaha I do the downgrading A LOT. More than those that I actually end up with. Its like I always get that “What would mum do?” If she was in my situation. When they get downgraded it takes so much more than just dating for them to get upgraded again. Sometimes, there is no chance and I cut them off. Fortunately, the gemini detachment comes in handy. I can cut off someone without a word if I sense he doesnt want to be exclusive. My current bf, I asked him on the third date if I should continue seeing other men. He immediately responded No and said he wont see other women too. And that was knowing we will be in LDR and it wont be easy because of the distance.Posted by WittyGem88Great advice and words.
In my experience, I have always had an exclusive relationship except when I have decided it not to be. Which only happened once coz I wasnt ready.
Anyway, I think you made a good point. Many women stay in the grey area. Its because they never ask. I ask if he wants exclusivity because I dont want to share him with other women. Why would I? I would be wasting my time. Of he runs away, starts saying its going to fast then thats a red flag for me. I automatically downgrade that man. I always think someone who pursues me should already know that he wants me only for himself. And this is also why I never chase men. Especially in the early stage. I can chase men but chances are, if they didnt work hard to get me, they will be fine without me and exclusivity is harder to get.
Many told me modern times, go free, we can act like men (thats how most women interpret feminism) but I dont agree. I think i need to continue being a woman in a man’s world when it comes to dating. And I dont mean shower me with presents or pay the bills for me forever. I mean respect me like a woman and dont put me in a situation where I dont know where I stand.
Hah, at your usage of 'downgrade'. More women should definitely downgrade the men in their lives, myself included. 😆
Do you normally, say such things so soon, on a second or third date ? What have your success rate been so far, did more men run away than stay ? What is their most common reaction ?
I say it right off the bat before the first date. 😂 even if its online. I had an aries man flake on me before when I asked for exclusivity. In fact he called me clingy. I asked because he was missing for like a week and thats when I realized the mofo is not serious about this. Cut him off immediately. Never to be heard from again.
More men run away thats for sure. But I see it as weeding out those who will just waste my time. I think if they really want me, they will stay. Kitty isnt free. I need committment. I need the bloody title. Then he can have me. Common reaction is they lessen the communication. They never say anything directly. And when I sense that, I pull away and start moving on to the next.click to expand

Posted by OneKnightDavid Bowie has never been wrong before lolPosted by MyStarsShineNo such thing as modern love. "Modern" things you see these days always existed.
Never gonna fall for modern love, don't believe in modern love
The destiny is in your hands, not in the world's. One of Scorpio's most common flaws is to assume otherwise and obsess about it.
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Posted by WittyGem88As do I.Posted by TheLadyScorpioMy mother is a dating expert! Shes so proud of it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 she’d be like “ i dont understand why you girls get those types of guys. I never get them when i was your age” LOLPosted by WittyGem88Hah, and I am a Stinger myself as well.Posted by TheLadyScorpioHahaha! I learned those things from my mum and she’s a scorp to the core. WahahahhahaPosted by WittyGem88I need myself some good old reliable Twin Detachment. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioWahahhaha I do the downgrading A LOT. More than those that I actually end up with. Its like I always get that “What would mum do?” If she was in my situation. When they get downgraded it takes so much more than just dating for them to get upgraded again. Sometimes, there is no chance and I cut them off. Fortunately, the gemini detachment comes in handy. I can cut off someone without a word if I sense he doesnt want to be exclusive. My current bf, I asked him on the third date if I should continue seeing other men. He immediately responded No and said he wont see other women too. And that was knowing we will be in LDR and it wont be easy because of the distance.Posted by WittyGem88Great advice and words.
In my experience, I have always had an exclusive relationship except when I have decided it not to be. Which only happened once coz I wasnt ready.
Anyway, I think you made a good point. Many women stay in the grey area. Its because they never ask. I ask if he wants exclusivity because I dont want to share him with other women. Why would I? I would be wasting my time. Of he runs away, starts saying its going to fast then thats a red flag for me. I automatically downgrade that man. I always think someone who pursues me should already know that he wants me only for himself. And this is also why I never chase men. Especially in the early stage. I can chase men but chances are, if they didnt work hard to get me, they will be fine without me and exclusivity is harder to get.
Many told me modern times, go free, we can act like men (thats how most women interpret feminism) but I dont agree. I think i need to continue being a woman in a man’s world when it comes to dating. And I dont mean shower me with presents or pay the bills for me forever. I mean respect me like a woman and dont put me in a situation where I dont know where I stand.
Hah, at your usage of 'downgrade'. More women should definitely downgrade the men in their lives, myself included. 😆
Do you normally, say such things so soon, on a second or third date ? What have your success rate been so far, did more men run away than stay ? What is their most common reaction ?
I say it right off the bat before the first date. 😂 even if its online. I had an aries man flake on me before when I asked for exclusivity. In fact he called me clingy. I asked because he was missing for like a week and thats when I realized the mofo is not serious about this. Cut him off immediately. Never to be heard from again.
More men run away thats for sure. But I see it as weeding out those who will just waste my time. I think if they really want me, they will stay. Kitty isnt free. I need committment. I need the bloody title. Then he can have me. Common reaction is they lessen the communication. They never say anything directly. And when I sense that, I pull away and start moving on to the next.
Why I need a bit of that secret magic your mother has. 😆
However, that strategy makes a lot of sense. Instead of waiting on them, to decide, you give them the choice. If it is not a match, then next. Frankly, the percentage of people (out in the dating realm) who are ready, but makes up a very small portion of the whole. Most, pretend to be ready, only to bail.
Sad really, because it causes those of us, who know what we want, a lot of heart ache, energy lost, and time wasted. Time that we cannot get back.
You are so correct. Many people arent serious about dating. And sometimes they pretend. I normally just let them see the real me and I am very demanding. Sometimes high maintenance as far as communication. I think men became more of a douchebag these days because more women are ok being in the gray area. If no women are ok with it, i bet you men wont be using “committment phobia” as an excuse and they will commit. I always admire traditional dating. My mum told me back in the day, people dont really play around. And in my country, there was no “friends with benefits” status. I wish those days are back.click to expand

Posted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by WittyGem88As do I.Posted by TheLadyScorpioMy mother is a dating expert! Shes so proud of it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 she’d be like “ i dont understand why you girls get those types of guys. I never get them when i was your age” LOLPosted by WittyGem88Hah, and I am a Stinger myself as well.Posted by TheLadyScorpioHahaha! I learned those things from my mum and she’s a scorp to the core. WahahahhahaPosted by WittyGem88I need myself some good old reliable Twin Detachment. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioWahahhaha I do the downgrading A LOT. More than those that I actually end up with. Its like I always get that “What would mum do?” If she was in my situation. When they get downgraded it takes so much more than just dating for them to get upgraded again. Sometimes, there is no chance and I cut them off. Fortunately, the gemini detachment comes in handy. I can cut off someone without a word if I sense he doesnt want to be exclusive. My current bf, I asked him on the third date if I should continue seeing other men. He immediately responded No and said he wont see other women too. And that was knowing we will be in LDR and it wont be easy because of the distance.Posted by WittyGem88Great advice and words.
In my experience, I have always had an exclusive relationship except when I have decided it not to be. Which only happened once coz I wasnt ready.
Anyway, I think you made a good point. Many women stay in the grey area. Its because they never ask. I ask if he wants exclusivity because I dont want to share him with other women. Why would I? I would be wasting my time. Of he runs away, starts saying its going to fast then thats a red flag for me. I automatically downgrade that man. I always think someone who pursues me should already know that he wants me only for himself. And this is also why I never chase men. Especially in the early stage. I can chase men but chances are, if they didnt work hard to get me, they will be fine without me and exclusivity is harder to get.
Many told me modern times, go free, we can act like men (thats how most women interpret feminism) but I dont agree. I think i need to continue being a woman in a man’s world when it comes to dating. And I dont mean shower me with presents or pay the bills for me forever. I mean respect me like a woman and dont put me in a situation where I dont know where I stand.
Hah, at your usage of 'downgrade'. More women should definitely downgrade the men in their lives, myself included. 😆
Do you normally, say such things so soon, on a second or third date ? What have your success rate been so far, did more men run away than stay ? What is their most common reaction ?
I say it right off the bat before the first date. 😂 even if its online. I had an aries man flake on me before when I asked for exclusivity. In fact he called me clingy. I asked because he was missing for like a week and thats when I realized the mofo is not serious about this. Cut him off immediately. Never to be heard from again.
More men run away thats for sure. But I see it as weeding out those who will just waste my time. I think if they really want me, they will stay. Kitty isnt free. I need committment. I need the bloody title. Then he can have me. Common reaction is they lessen the communication. They never say anything directly. And when I sense that, I pull away and start moving on to the next.
Why I need a bit of that secret magic your mother has. 😆
However, that strategy makes a lot of sense. Instead of waiting on them, to decide, you give them the choice. If it is not a match, then next. Frankly, the percentage of people (out in the dating realm) who are ready, but makes up a very small portion of the whole. Most, pretend to be ready, only to bail.
Sad really, because it causes those of us, who know what we want, a lot of heart ache, energy lost, and time wasted. Time that we cannot get back.
You are so correct. Many people arent serious about dating. And sometimes they pretend. I normally just let them see the real me and I am very demanding. Sometimes high maintenance as far as communication. I think men became more of a douchebag these days because more women are ok being in the gray area. If no women are ok with it, i bet you men wont be using “committment phobia” as an excuse and they will commit. I always admire traditional dating. My mum told me back in the day, people dont really play around. And in my country, there was no “friends with benefits” status. I wish those days are back.
Dating is an exhausting conundrum. Damned if you do, damned if you do not.
Either way you never seem to win, no matter what you do and you are always wrong. 😆click to expand

Posted by WittyGem88It has totally changed! Yes the tradition has disappearedPosted by TheLadyScorpioMy mother is a dating expert! Shes so proud of it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 she’d be like “ i dont understand why you girls get those types of guys. I never get them when i was your age” LOLPosted by WittyGem88Hah, and I am a Stinger myself as well.Posted by TheLadyScorpioHahaha! I learned those things from my mum and she’s a scorp to the core. WahahahhahaPosted by WittyGem88I need myself some good old reliable Twin Detachment. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioWahahhaha I do the downgrading A LOT. More than those that I actually end up with. Its like I always get that “What would mum do?” If she was in my situation. When they get downgraded it takes so much more than just dating for them to get upgraded again. Sometimes, there is no chance and I cut them off. Fortunately, the gemini detachment comes in handy. I can cut off someone without a word if I sense he doesnt want to be exclusive. My current bf, I asked him on the third date if I should continue seeing other men. He immediately responded No and said he wont see other women too. And that was knowing we will be in LDR and it wont be easy because of the distance.Posted by WittyGem88Great advice and words.
In my experience, I have always had an exclusive relationship except when I have decided it not to be. Which only happened once coz I wasnt ready.
Anyway, I think you made a good point. Many women stay in the grey area. Its because they never ask. I ask if he wants exclusivity because I dont want to share him with other women. Why would I? I would be wasting my time. Of he runs away, starts saying its going to fast then thats a red flag for me. I automatically downgrade that man. I always think someone who pursues me should already know that he wants me only for himself. And this is also why I never chase men. Especially in the early stage. I can chase men but chances are, if they didnt work hard to get me, they will be fine without me and exclusivity is harder to get.
Many told me modern times, go free, we can act like men (thats how most women interpret feminism) but I dont agree. I think i need to continue being a woman in a man’s world when it comes to dating. And I dont mean shower me with presents or pay the bills for me forever. I mean respect me like a woman and dont put me in a situation where I dont know where I stand.
Hah, at your usage of 'downgrade'. More women should definitely downgrade the men in their lives, myself included. 😆
Do you normally, say such things so soon, on a second or third date ? What have your success rate been so far, did more men run away than stay ? What is their most common reaction ?
I say it right off the bat before the first date. 😂 even if its online. I had an aries man flake on me before when I asked for exclusivity. In fact he called me clingy. I asked because he was missing for like a week and thats when I realized the mofo is not serious about this. Cut him off immediately. Never to be heard from again.
More men run away thats for sure. But I see it as weeding out those who will just waste my time. I think if they really want me, they will stay. Kitty isnt free. I need committment. I need the bloody title. Then he can have me. Common reaction is they lessen the communication. They never say anything directly. And when I sense that, I pull away and start moving on to the next.
Why I need a bit of that secret magic your mother has. 😆
However, that strategy makes a lot of sense. Instead of waiting on them, to decide, you give them the choice. If it is not a match, then next. Frankly, the percentage of people (out in the dating realm) who are ready, but makes up a very small portion of the whole. Most, pretend to be ready, only to bail.
Sad really, because it causes those of us, who know what we want, a lot of heart ache, energy lost, and time wasted. Time that we cannot get back.
You are so correct. Many people arent serious about dating. And sometimes they pretend. I normally just let them see the real me and I am very demanding. Sometimes high maintenance as far as communication. I think men became more of a douchebag these days because more women are ok being in the gray area. If no women are ok with it, i bet you men wont be using “committment phobia” as an excuse and they will commit. I always admire traditional dating. My mum told me back in the day, people dont really play around. And in my country, there was no “friends with benefits” status. I wish those days are back.click to expand

Posted by WittyGem88Might as well put on a chastity belt, lock myself up, and be done with it.Posted by TheLadyScorpioExactly!!!!! Oh trust me, I hate the dating game. I always like the committment but the phases that you gotta go through when you date is super exhausting.Posted by WittyGem88As do I.Posted by TheLadyScorpioMy mother is a dating expert! Shes so proud of it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 she’d be like “ i dont understand why you girls get those types of guys. I never get them when i was your age” LOLPosted by WittyGem88Hah, and I am a Stinger myself as well.Posted by TheLadyScorpioHahaha! I learned those things from my mum and she’s a scorp to the core. WahahahhahaPosted by WittyGem88I need myself some good old reliable Twin Detachment. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioWahahhaha I do the downgrading A LOT. More than those that I actually end up with. Its like I always get that “What would mum do?” If she was in my situation. When they get downgraded it takes so much more than just dating for them to get upgraded again. Sometimes, there is no chance and I cut them off. Fortunately, the gemini detachment comes in handy. I can cut off someone without a word if I sense he doesnt want to be exclusive. My current bf, I asked him on the third date if I should continue seeing other men. He immediately responded No and said he wont see other women too. And that was knowing we will be in LDR and it wont be easy because of the distance.Posted by WittyGem88Great advice and words.
In my experience, I have always had an exclusive relationship except when I have decided it not to be. Which only happened once coz I wasnt ready.
Anyway, I think you made a good point. Many women stay in the grey area. Its because they never ask. I ask if he wants exclusivity because I dont want to share him with other women. Why would I? I would be wasting my time. Of he runs away, starts saying its going to fast then thats a red flag for me. I automatically downgrade that man. I always think someone who pursues me should already know that he wants me only for himself. And this is also why I never chase men. Especially in the early stage. I can chase men but chances are, if they didnt work hard to get me, they will be fine without me and exclusivity is harder to get.
Many told me modern times, go free, we can act like men (thats how most women interpret feminism) but I dont agree. I think i need to continue being a woman in a man’s world when it comes to dating. And I dont mean shower me with presents or pay the bills for me forever. I mean respect me like a woman and dont put me in a situation where I dont know where I stand.
Hah, at your usage of 'downgrade'. More women should definitely downgrade the men in their lives, myself included. 😆
Do you normally, say such things so soon, on a second or third date ? What have your success rate been so far, did more men run away than stay ? What is their most common reaction ?
I say it right off the bat before the first date. 😂 even if its online. I had an aries man flake on me before when I asked for exclusivity. In fact he called me clingy. I asked because he was missing for like a week and thats when I realized the mofo is not serious about this. Cut him off immediately. Never to be heard from again.
More men run away thats for sure. But I see it as weeding out those who will just waste my time. I think if they really want me, they will stay. Kitty isnt free. I need committment. I need the bloody title. Then he can have me. Common reaction is they lessen the communication. They never say anything directly. And when I sense that, I pull away and start moving on to the next.
Why I need a bit of that secret magic your mother has. 😆
However, that strategy makes a lot of sense. Instead of waiting on them, to decide, you give them the choice. If it is not a match, then next. Frankly, the percentage of people (out in the dating realm) who are ready, but makes up a very small portion of the whole. Most, pretend to be ready, only to bail.
Sad really, because it causes those of us, who know what we want, a lot of heart ache, energy lost, and time wasted. Time that we cannot get back.
You are so correct. Many people arent serious about dating. And sometimes they pretend. I normally just let them see the real me and I am very demanding. Sometimes high maintenance as far as communication. I think men became more of a douchebag these days because more women are ok being in the gray area. If no women are ok with it, i bet you men wont be using “committment phobia” as an excuse and they will commit. I always admire traditional dating. My mum told me back in the day, people dont really play around. And in my country, there was no “friends with benefits” status. I wish those days are back.
Dating is an exhausting conundrum. Damned if you do, damned if you do not.
Either you never seem to win, no matter what you do and you are always wrong. 😆click to expand

Posted by WittyGem88The lack of courtship and traditions, have truly destroyed the progression. Now, it is a free for all, with little to gain.Posted by MyStarsShineOh for sure! No sex before marriage was a huge thing here in my country. But now... good lord. Free sex using tinder. I still dont get why people want to be in a no label relationship. Cant get jealous, cant get regular dates, no progression... its just a nightmare.Posted by WittyGem88It has totally changed! Yes the tradition has disappearedPosted by TheLadyScorpioMy mother is a dating expert! Shes so proud of it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 she’d be like “ i dont understand why you girls get those types of guys. I never get them when i was your age” LOLPosted by WittyGem88Hah, and I am a Stinger myself as well.Posted by TheLadyScorpioHahaha! I learned those things from my mum and she’s a scorp to the core. WahahahhahaPosted by WittyGem88I need myself some good old reliable Twin Detachment. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioWahahhaha I do the downgrading A LOT. More than those that I actually end up with. Its like I always get that “What would mum do?” If she was in my situation. When they get downgraded it takes so much more than just dating for them to get upgraded again. Sometimes, there is no chance and I cut them off. Fortunately, the gemini detachment comes in handy. I can cut off someone without a word if I sense he doesnt want to be exclusive. My current bf, I asked him on the third date if I should continue seeing other men. He immediately responded No and said he wont see other women too. And that was knowing we will be in LDR and it wont be easy because of the distance.Posted by WittyGem88Great advice and words.
In my experience, I have always had an exclusive relationship except when I have decided it not to be. Which only happened once coz I wasnt ready.
Anyway, I think you made a good point. Many women stay in the grey area. Its because they never ask. I ask if he wants exclusivity because I dont want to share him with other women. Why would I? I would be wasting my time. Of he runs away, starts saying its going to fast then thats a red flag for me. I automatically downgrade that man. I always think someone who pursues me should already know that he wants me only for himself. And this is also why I never chase men. Especially in the early stage. I can chase men but chances are, if they didnt work hard to get me, they will be fine without me and exclusivity is harder to get.
Many told me modern times, go free, we can act like men (thats how most women interpret feminism) but I dont agree. I think i need to continue being a woman in a man’s world when it comes to dating. And I dont mean shower me with presents or pay the bills for me forever. I mean respect me like a woman and dont put me in a situation where I dont know where I stand.
Hah, at your usage of 'downgrade'. More women should definitely downgrade the men in their lives, myself included. 😆
Do you normally, say such things so soon, on a second or third date ? What have your success rate been so far, did more men run away than stay ? What is their most common reaction ?
I say it right off the bat before the first date. 😂 even if its online. I had an aries man flake on me before when I asked for exclusivity. In fact he called me clingy. I asked because he was missing for like a week and thats when I realized the mofo is not serious about this. Cut him off immediately. Never to be heard from again.
More men run away thats for sure. But I see it as weeding out those who will just waste my time. I think if they really want me, they will stay. Kitty isnt free. I need committment. I need the bloody title. Then he can have me. Common reaction is they lessen the communication. They never say anything directly. And when I sense that, I pull away and start moving on to the next.
Why I need a bit of that secret magic your mother has. 😆
However, that strategy makes a lot of sense. Instead of waiting on them, to decide, you give them the choice. If it is not a match, then next. Frankly, the percentage of people (out in the dating realm) who are ready, but makes up a very small portion of the whole. Most, pretend to be ready, only to bail.
Sad really, because it causes those of us, who know what we want, a lot of heart ache, energy lost, and time wasted. Time that we cannot get back.
You are so correct. Many people arent serious about dating. And sometimes they pretend. I normally just let them see the real me and I am very demanding. Sometimes high maintenance as far as communication. I think men became more of a douchebag these days because more women are ok being in the gray area. If no women are ok with it, i bet you men wont be using “committment phobia” as an excuse and they will commit. I always admire traditional dating. My mum told me back in the day, people dont really play around. And in my country, there was no “friends with benefits” status. I wish those days are back.
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Posted by WittyGem88Free for all!Posted by MyStarsShineOh for sure! No sex before marriage was a huge thing here in my country. But now... good lord. Free sex using tinder. I still dont get why people want to be in a no label relationship. Cant get jealous, cant get regular dates, no progression... its just a nightmare.Posted by WittyGem88It has totally changed! Yes the tradition has disappearedPosted by TheLadyScorpioMy mother is a dating expert! Shes so proud of it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 she’d be like “ i dont understand why you girls get those types of guys. I never get them when i was your age” LOLPosted by WittyGem88Hah, and I am a Stinger myself as well.Posted by TheLadyScorpioHahaha! I learned those things from my mum and she’s a scorp to the core. WahahahhahaPosted by WittyGem88I need myself some good old reliable Twin Detachment. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioWahahhaha I do the downgrading A LOT. More than those that I actually end up with. Its like I always get that “What would mum do?” If she was in my situation. When they get downgraded it takes so much more than just dating for them to get upgraded again. Sometimes, there is no chance and I cut them off. Fortunately, the gemini detachment comes in handy. I can cut off someone without a word if I sense he doesnt want to be exclusive. My current bf, I asked him on the third date if I should continue seeing other men. He immediately responded No and said he wont see other women too. And that was knowing we will be in LDR and it wont be easy because of the distance.Posted by WittyGem88Great advice and words.
In my experience, I have always had an exclusive relationship except when I have decided it not to be. Which only happened once coz I wasnt ready.
Anyway, I think you made a good point. Many women stay in the grey area. Its because they never ask. I ask if he wants exclusivity because I dont want to share him with other women. Why would I? I would be wasting my time. Of he runs away, starts saying its going to fast then thats a red flag for me. I automatically downgrade that man. I always think someone who pursues me should already know that he wants me only for himself. And this is also why I never chase men. Especially in the early stage. I can chase men but chances are, if they didnt work hard to get me, they will be fine without me and exclusivity is harder to get.
Many told me modern times, go free, we can act like men (thats how most women interpret feminism) but I dont agree. I think i need to continue being a woman in a man’s world when it comes to dating. And I dont mean shower me with presents or pay the bills for me forever. I mean respect me like a woman and dont put me in a situation where I dont know where I stand.
Hah, at your usage of 'downgrade'. More women should definitely downgrade the men in their lives, myself included. 😆
Do you normally, say such things so soon, on a second or third date ? What have your success rate been so far, did more men run away than stay ? What is their most common reaction ?
I say it right off the bat before the first date. 😂 even if its online. I had an aries man flake on me before when I asked for exclusivity. In fact he called me clingy. I asked because he was missing for like a week and thats when I realized the mofo is not serious about this. Cut him off immediately. Never to be heard from again.
More men run away thats for sure. But I see it as weeding out those who will just waste my time. I think if they really want me, they will stay. Kitty isnt free. I need committment. I need the bloody title. Then he can have me. Common reaction is they lessen the communication. They never say anything directly. And when I sense that, I pull away and start moving on to the next.
Why I need a bit of that secret magic your mother has. 😆
However, that strategy makes a lot of sense. Instead of waiting on them, to decide, you give them the choice. If it is not a match, then next. Frankly, the percentage of people (out in the dating realm) who are ready, but makes up a very small portion of the whole. Most, pretend to be ready, only to bail.
Sad really, because it causes those of us, who know what we want, a lot of heart ache, energy lost, and time wasted. Time that we cannot get back.
You are so correct. Many people arent serious about dating. And sometimes they pretend. I normally just let them see the real me and I am very demanding. Sometimes high maintenance as far as communication. I think men became more of a douchebag these days because more women are ok being in the gray area. If no women are ok with it, i bet you men wont be using “committment phobia” as an excuse and they will commit. I always admire traditional dating. My mum told me back in the day, people dont really play around. And in my country, there was no “friends with benefits” status. I wish those days are back.
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Posted by TheLadyScorpio💕Heaven💕Posted by WittyGem88Might as well put on a chastity belt, lock myself up, and be done with it.Posted by TheLadyScorpioExactly!!!!! Oh trust me, I hate the dating game. I always like the committment but the phases that you gotta go through when you date is super exhausting.Posted by WittyGem88As do I.Posted by TheLadyScorpioMy mother is a dating expert! Shes so proud of it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 she’d be like “ i dont understand why you girls get those types of guys. I never get them when i was your age” LOLPosted by WittyGem88Hah, and I am a Stinger myself as well.Posted by TheLadyScorpioHahaha! I learned those things from my mum and she’s a scorp to the core. WahahahhahaPosted by WittyGem88I need myself some good old reliable Twin Detachment. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioWahahhaha I do the downgrading A LOT. More than those that I actually end up with. Its like I always get that “What would mum do?” If she was in my situation. When they get downgraded it takes so much more than just dating for them to get upgraded again. Sometimes, there is no chance and I cut them off. Fortunately, the gemini detachment comes in handy. I can cut off someone without a word if I sense he doesnt want to be exclusive. My current bf, I asked him on the third date if I should continue seeing other men. He immediately responded No and said he wont see other women too. And that was knowing we will be in LDR and it wont be easy because of the distance.Posted by WittyGem88Great advice and words.
In my experience, I have always had an exclusive relationship except when I have decided it not to be. Which only happened once coz I wasnt ready.
Anyway, I think you made a good point. Many women stay in the grey area. Its because they never ask. I ask if he wants exclusivity because I dont want to share him with other women. Why would I? I would be wasting my time. Of he runs away, starts saying its going to fast then thats a red flag for me. I automatically downgrade that man. I always think someone who pursues me should already know that he wants me only for himself. And this is also why I never chase men. Especially in the early stage. I can chase men but chances are, if they didnt work hard to get me, they will be fine without me and exclusivity is harder to get.
Many told me modern times, go free, we can act like men (thats how most women interpret feminism) but I dont agree. I think i need to continue being a woman in a man’s world when it comes to dating. And I dont mean shower me with presents or pay the bills for me forever. I mean respect me like a woman and dont put me in a situation where I dont know where I stand.
Hah, at your usage of 'downgrade'. More women should definitely downgrade the men in their lives, myself included. 😆
Do you normally, say such things so soon, on a second or third date ? What have your success rate been so far, did more men run away than stay ? What is their most common reaction ?
I say it right off the bat before the first date. 😂 even if its online. I had an aries man flake on me before when I asked for exclusivity. In fact he called me clingy. I asked because he was missing for like a week and thats when I realized the mofo is not serious about this. Cut him off immediately. Never to be heard from again.
More men run away thats for sure. But I see it as weeding out those who will just waste my time. I think if they really want me, they will stay. Kitty isnt free. I need committment. I need the bloody title. Then he can have me. Common reaction is they lessen the communication. They never say anything directly. And when I sense that, I pull away and start moving on to the next.
Why I need a bit of that secret magic your mother has. 😆
However, that strategy makes a lot of sense. Instead of waiting on them, to decide, you give them the choice. If it is not a match, then next. Frankly, the percentage of people (out in the dating realm) who are ready, but makes up a very small portion of the whole. Most, pretend to be ready, only to bail.
Sad really, because it causes those of us, who know what we want, a lot of heart ache, energy lost, and time wasted. Time that we cannot get back.
You are so correct. Many people arent serious about dating. And sometimes they pretend. I normally just let them see the real me and I am very demanding. Sometimes high maintenance as far as communication. I think men became more of a douchebag these days because more women are ok being in the gray area. If no women are ok with it, i bet you men wont be using “committment phobia” as an excuse and they will commit. I always admire traditional dating. My mum told me back in the day, people dont really play around. And in my country, there was no “friends with benefits” status. I wish those days are back.
Dating is an exhausting conundrum. Damned if you do, damned if you do not.
Either you never seem to win, no matter what you do and you are always wrong. 😆
I am single, and do not touch me. Poking every potential man, with a ten foot pole. 😆
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Posted by WittyGem88👍Posted by MyStarsShineIt is definitely gross. I dont know but i cant seem to do that. I am too picky and demanding that casual stuff dont suit me. I am not equipped to handle it. Some people think its awesome they are so popular having a different man or woman weekly. I dont think its a blessing to be in that situation. I hate being uncertain. It confuses me. Makes me aggravated. And i cant invest myself. It always feels good when you have one committed relationship where you can grow together. I can be playful like a tinder woman with my bf if he wants that. I can be anything. I can be demure, i can be a bit slutty, i can be a geek. But I need committment to be all that. If not I dont need to be with that man.Posted by WittyGem88Free for all!Posted by MyStarsShineOh for sure! No sex before marriage was a huge thing here in my country. But now... good lord. Free sex using tinder. I still dont get why people want to be in a no label relationship. Cant get jealous, cant get regular dates, no progression... its just a nightmare.Posted by WittyGem88It has totally changed! Yes the tradition has disappearedPosted by TheLadyScorpioMy mother is a dating expert! Shes so proud of it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 she’d be like “ i dont understand why you girls get those types of guys. I never get them when i was your age” LOLPosted by WittyGem88Hah, and I am a Stinger myself as well.Posted by TheLadyScorpioHahaha! I learned those things from my mum and she’s a scorp to the core. WahahahhahaPosted by WittyGem88I need myself some good old reliable Twin Detachment. 😆Posted by TheLadyScorpioWahahhaha I do the downgrading A LOT. More than those that I actually end up with. Its like I always get that “What would mum do?” If she was in my situation. When they get downgraded it takes so much more than just dating for them to get upgraded again. Sometimes, there is no chance and I cut them off. Fortunately, the gemini detachment comes in handy. I can cut off someone without a word if I sense he doesnt want to be exclusive. My current bf, I asked him on the third date if I should continue seeing other men. He immediately responded No and said he wont see other women too. And that was knowing we will be in LDR and it wont be easy because of the distance.Posted by WittyGem88Great advice and words.
In my experience, I have always had an exclusive relationship except when I have decided it not to be. Which only happened once coz I wasnt ready.
Anyway, I think you made a good point. Many women stay in the grey area. Its because they never ask. I ask if he wants exclusivity because I dont want to share him with other women. Why would I? I would be wasting my time. Of he runs away, starts saying its going to fast then thats a red flag for me. I automatically downgrade that man. I always think someone who pursues me should already know that he wants me only for himself. And this is also why I never chase men. Especially in the early stage. I can chase men but chances are, if they didnt work hard to get me, they will be fine without me and exclusivity is harder to get.
Many told me modern times, go free, we can act like men (thats how most women interpret feminism) but I dont agree. I think i need to continue being a woman in a man’s world when it comes to dating. And I dont mean shower me with presents or pay the bills for me forever. I mean respect me like a woman and dont put me in a situation where I dont know where I stand.
Hah, at your usage of 'downgrade'. More women should definitely downgrade the men in their lives, myself included. 😆
Do you normally, say such things so soon, on a second or third date ? What have your success rate been so far, did more men run away than stay ? What is their most common reaction ?
I say it right off the bat before the first date. 😂 even if its online. I had an aries man flake on me before when I asked for exclusivity. In fact he called me clingy. I asked because he was missing for like a week and thats when I realized the mofo is not serious about this. Cut him off immediately. Never to be heard from again.
More men run away thats for sure. But I see it as weeding out those who will just waste my time. I think if they really want me, they will stay. Kitty isnt free. I need committment. I need the bloody title. Then he can have me. Common reaction is they lessen the communication. They never say anything directly. And when I sense that, I pull away and start moving on to the next.
Why I need a bit of that secret magic your mother has. 😆
However, that strategy makes a lot of sense. Instead of waiting on them, to decide, you give them the choice. If it is not a match, then next. Frankly, the percentage of people (out in the dating realm) who are ready, but makes up a very small portion of the whole. Most, pretend to be ready, only to bail.
Sad really, because it causes those of us, who know what we want, a lot of heart ache, energy lost, and time wasted. Time that we cannot get back.
You are so correct. Many people arent serious about dating. And sometimes they pretend. I normally just let them see the real me and I am very demanding. Sometimes high maintenance as far as communication. I think men became more of a douchebag these days because more women are ok being in the gray area. If no women are ok with it, i bet you men wont be using “committment phobia” as an excuse and they will commit. I always admire traditional dating. My mum told me back in the day, people dont really play around. And in my country, there was no “friends with benefits” status. I wish those days are back.
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Posted by WittyGem88Posted by LadyNeptuneHahaha! Plus the uncertainty kills us deep down. Tbh geminis over think A LOT. If we arent in a committed rs with one, its something we have to worry about day in and day out. Who wants that kind of headache really. 🤣
I remember having a conversation with bae early on telling him that there was no rush towards labels. I was enjoying our vibe (we had agreed to exclusivity at that point). Later that day he asks me to be bf/gf.
With gems and I suspect other air signs, once you say you don't need it they want to give it to you.
Reverse psychology lmao
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Posted by WittyGem88It came down to timing. We were both after the same things. I lucked out with him.Posted by LadyNeptuneYeah. Imagine I am in a committed relationship and during the first phase it was driving me nuts thinking about ALL his actions. The aqua board was so full of my posts. What more if I weren’t in a committed rs. And I think its the same for your man. He wanna focus on life and work and have a great woman beside him. But, you also mustve done something right coz many women also post about gem men putting them in the gray area lolPosted by WittyGem88Posted by LadyNeptuneHahaha! Plus the uncertainty kills us deep down. Tbh geminis over think A LOT. If we arent in a committed rs with one, its something we have to worry about day in and day out. Who wants that kind of headache really. 🤣
I remember having a conversation with bae early on telling him that there was no rush towards labels. I was enjoying our vibe (we had agreed to exclusivity at that point). Later that day he asks me to be bf/gf.
With gems and I suspect other air signs, once you say you don't need it they want to give it to you.
Reverse psychology lmao
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Loaded subject I know, but anyway the thing I seem to notice is blurry boundary lines...is it dating, is it exclusive, is it a relationship, is it, what is it, how is it going to be?
When I dated a guy, the first thing i would make clear to him was I don't share and if he wanted to give it a blast with me, then cool, if he wanted to be with other women, then he ain't with me...we would have to finish up before that happened.
It worked and the guy knew where he stood ... as did I
I never got messed around and they developed into long term, faithful relationships
Simple or not ? 😛
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