Do women really only like assholes?

or is this an urban myth? I honestly find it hard to believe you have to treat someone like shit to get them to like you.

What is everyone's take on this?

I like males that concentrate their energy on trying to be a good, quality, guy as opposed to those that try to come across as "nice guys". Cause "nice guys" usually have hidden agendas, or are just acting the way they think they should - not the way they actually want to. And anyone that does things solely because they think "it's expected of them" is bound to have a chip on their shoulder.. And probably has no firm sense of self.

Makes me want to ask the question

'do you know who you are?'

You'll find the answer written somewhere in some cave in France.

As old as humanity.

and leejt86

depends on the girl they may like markers or they may not and who knows it could be an urban myth, must research it sometime and give you a researched answer on that subject

I dont believe you must treat someone like shit to get them to like you, you cant force a person to like you at all if they dont like you at all.

You can make a person do anything you want but when it comes down at the end of the day you can never make a person actually like you its a total different thing all together really

Case of easy come and easy go

By what definition do you consider "Markers"?

I can be instantly attracted to a Hot guy that knows he's hot and is a cheater (all this I don't know up front as we've just met) if I feel a connection it's hard to back away again when I figure out what the guy is all about.

I think a lot of woman fall like this and don't have the strength to deny that attraction.

Why do you find it hard to believe? It happens all the time. Just look

you need an answer to your question?

Posted by leejt86
or is this an urban myth? I honestly find it hard to believe you have to treat someone like shit to get them to like you.

What is everyone's take on this?

Women love unpredictible behaviour in men. It just instantly gets their panties wet! And there's a fine line between being unpredictible and acting like a total douche, but there's a difference nontheless, and emotionally "healthy" women know it.

I've never gotten randomly laid by playing it safe and getting on everyone's good side.

Posted by Andalusia
I like males that concentrate their energy on trying to be a good, quality, guy as opposed to those that try to come across as "nice guys". Cause "nice guys" usually have hidden agendas, or are just acting the way they think they should - not the way they actually want to. And anyone that does things solely because they think "it's expected of them" is bound to have a chip on their shoulder.. And probably has no firm sense of self.

This would describe the OP to a T, tbh.

He just hasn't picked up on that bit yet and continues to victimize himself.

Posted by PotHeadVirgo24

Posted by lisabethur8

she's kind of cute and funny though. Really happy to explain it all down to all the women out there....and the men too. And yeah, i had to fast forward because the first five she's asking everyone to do some housework, clean up or get coffee or whatever while listening to her. So i actually sat through it and had the patience. Lol

haha i had no idea it censored my topic. i meant a $ $ holes.

I have had several instances in my life where i have been called too nice. ive even been called too sensitive. On the other hand, ive also been called too mean for being loud and opinionated. so im really confused here.

(Im Virgo with Aries rising btw)

help me out here. I know if you want to get women to sleep with you, theres a certain way you have to act, but for relationships i just dont buy it.

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Posted by Andalusia
I like males that concentrate their energy on trying to be a good, quality, guy as opposed to those that try to come across as "nice guys". Cause "nice guys" usually have hidden agendas, or are just acting the way they think they should - not the way they actually want to. And anyone that does things solely because they think "it's expected of them" is bound to have a chip on their shoulder.. And probably has no firm sense of self.

This would describe the OP to a T, tbh.

He just hasn't picked up on that bit yet and continues to victimize himself.

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i have no hidden agendas. i treat people with respect if they deserve it. if not i will tell them to fuck off

Posted by PotHeadVirgo24
I don't give a fuck what women like.

"Take me for who I am. You don't like it? Suck my dick."

You really say that to women?

Does it work or do you get smacked?

Posted by soultalk
i myself am not that social so i tend to get drawn to guys who are social and loud and strong. opposites attract? but markers maybe not. not the arrogant, selfish, snobbish types.

I am not social and I for sure am not drawn to the loud and overly social guys. I prefer the quiet down to earth ones! I want to be able to hold a conversation about books I have read and have a guy know WTF I am talking about. lol

The only myth here is that all women are good, common-sense having, emotionally stable creatures. If you automatically perceive every woman to be this way, of course you'll drown in confusion when you see that she not only puts up with a "marker" but LIKES his azz too!

So let's get it straight. BAD women (seeds) like BAD boys. Good women don't.

If you think that a woman has substance, high self-esteem & is considered "good" despite the fact that she keeps clinging to bad guys, then your perception of her being a "good girl" is WRONG.

What a person attracts, chases & tries to hold on to is very reflective of who you are on the inside. Women who aint sh***t attract AND try to keep aint sh***t men

Posted by krysrenee7
The only myth here is that all women are good, common-sense having, emotionally stable creatures. If you automatically perceive every woman to be this way, of course you'll drown in confusion when you see that she not only puts up with a "marker" but LIKES his azz too!

So let's get it straight. BAD women (seeds) like BAD boys. Good women don't.

If you think that a woman has substance, high self-esteem & is considered "good" despite the fact that she keeps clinging to bad guys, then your perception of her being a "good girl" is WRONG.

What a person attracts, chases & tries to hold on to is very reflective of who you are on the inside. Women who aint sh***t attract AND try to keep aint sh***t men

ive always believed that immature women liked bad boys, ones that have never been treated right by a guy. If a woman has a track record of bad guys then she's not learning anything from her past relationships.

Posted by leejt86

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Posted by Andalusia
I like males that concentrate their energy on trying to be a good, quality, guy as opposed to those that try to come across as "nice guys". Cause "nice guys" usually have hidden agendas, or are just acting the way they think they should - not the way they actually want to. And anyone that does things solely because they think "it's expected of them" is bound to have a chip on their shoulder.. And probably has no firm sense of self.

This would describe the OP to a T, tbh.

He just hasn't picked up on that bit yet and continues to victimize himself.

i have no hidden agendas. i treat people with respect if they deserve it. if not i will tell them to fuck off

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Your post history begs to differ. You've given examples of how you basically plot and try to manipulate a woman into liking you more than a friend. That shit's not cool.

Wtf is your rush to get into a relationship anyway? Why aren't you secure in being single?

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Posted by leejt86

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Posted by Andalusia
I like males that concentrate their energy on trying to be a good, quality, guy as opposed to those that try to come across as "nice guys". Cause "nice guys" usually have hidden agendas, or are just acting the way they think they should - not the way they actually want to. And anyone that does things solely because they think "it's expected of them" is bound to have a chip on their shoulder.. And probably has no firm sense of self.

This would describe the OP to a T, tbh.

He just hasn't picked up on that bit yet and continues to victimize himself.

i have no hidden agendas. i treat people with respect if they deserve it. if not i will tell them to fuck off

Your post history begs to differ. You've given examples of how you basically plot and try to manipulate a woman into liking you more than a friend. That shit's not cool.

Wtf is your rush to get into a relationship anyway? Why aren't you secure in being single?

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i didnt listen when she told me no, but i didnt manipulate her. i tried being friends with her but it was too hard for me because i hadnt moved on.

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Posted by krysrenee7
The only myth here is that all women are good, common-sense having, emotionally stable creatures. If you automatically perceive every woman to be this way, of course you'll drown in confusion when you see that she not only puts up with a "marker" but LIKES his azz too!

So let's get it straight. BAD women (seeds) like BAD boys. Good women don't.

If you think that a woman has substance, high self-esteem & is considered "good" despite the fact that she keeps clinging to bad guys, then your perception of her being a "good girl" is WRONG.

What a person attracts, chases & tries to hold on to is very reflective of who you are on the inside. Women who aint sh***t attract AND try to keep aint sh***t men

Lol, that's such an oversimplified load of BS.

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LOL I'm guessing you'd rather me say, "Women are the angels & guys are the devils. The women keep getting caught up with these bad men b/c they're being manipulated & have no intellectual or emotional ability to see right from wrong. Ugh!" AINT GONNA HAPPEN!

Women are not helpless beings who have no control over their emotions. All women have brains! It's just that the women who have distorted views on what "good" means just so happen to attract/date the men who also have distorted views Birds of a feather flock to together!

To all you good guys: Don't be so upset! You're not missing out on a woman just b/c she picked the bad guy! Hell, let the bad girls & the bad guys be together! They're better for each other anyways!

Posted by leejt86

Posted by andsssssss
bro ur starting to form theories. don't join them. it's the dark part of the internet past mordor.

tbh i've never encountered the term nice guy until i logged on to the internet and it's only the past couple of years i read about it. it's very hard to put a label on someone like bad boy, nice guy, white knight, mangina, alpha, beta, poonslayer because people are multifaceted.

good sound post. +1

the image was funny.

Posted by Chance15

Posted by krysrenee7
The only myth here is that all women are good, common-sense having, emotionally stable creatures. If you automatically perceive every woman to be this way, of course you'll drown in confusion when you see that she not only puts up with a "marker" but LIKES his azz too!

So let's get it straight. BAD women (seeds) like BAD boys. Good women don't.

If you think that a woman has substance, high self-esteem & is considered "good" despite the fact that she keeps clinging to bad guys, then your perception of her being a "good girl" is WRONG.

What a person attracts, chases & tries to hold on to is very reflective of who you are on the inside. Women who aint sh***t attract AND try to keep aint sh***t men

spot on, krys..especially 3rd and 4th paragraphs. i always wonder if the seemingly 'good' girls that only like douches and unrealistic relationships are really just good at fooling the majority as well as themselves..thus, continuing cyclical behavior that's indicative of major unresolved issues.

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pretty much... though i wouldn't go as far as to say the women themselves are shitty... broken and unresolved, most likely... but not shitty.

@Xpurrr...lol I love how NON-psychologists who have never studied psychology or practiced psychology a day in their lives are suddenly trying to "school" psychologists on what they should be thinking, believing or saying. Don't be so arrogant to assume that your reality, results & breeds of people that YOU meet are the same reality, results & breeds others experience. There's an entire world out there much BIGGER than you & your "theories."

The myth is that men are born messed up & women are born angels. So when we see a woman falling head over heels for whom society considers an "Ahole," people automatically start feeling bad for her, assuming she's the victim of manipulation, etc. w/o ever taking into consideration that perhaps she was just as "bad" as him & that perhaps she actually LIKES those traits in him, regardless of whether or not others THINK she should like them.

Some women don't understand why men like porn, but it doesn't matter b/c some men understand it PERFECTLY. Some women don't understand the rationale behind cheating, but it doesn't matter b/c some men understand it PERFECTLY. Some women don't understand the rationale behind men saying they want a good woman but yet go & pick up hookers at bars, but it doesn't matter b/c the men doing this understand it PERFECTLY!

People are attracted to irrational things all the time. We're open-minded to men being attracted to self-sabotaging things, bad or forbidden people/traits, but when a woman does so, everybody freaks out as if it weren't possible for a woman to be just as irrational in her pickings.

As for the guys, you might be the only thinking that this particular girl is a "good girl," while everybody else knows differently. The same goes for women. Guys just sit back, watch & judge b/c they already know he's a "bad guy" even though the woman he's dating might foolishly perceive him to be a "good guy." Guys get it wrong in their "perceptions" & "assumptions" too.

It's almost as if some men feel they should be the only ones engaging in forbidden, irrational or self-sabotaging things with the opposite sex. God forbid a woman actually likes the wild side of life too!

If you want quality women I can say quality women don't like assholes.

Posted by xtina
If you want quality women I can say quality women don't like assholes.

ehhhh....

Jacklyn Onassis is a quality woman. Sources say that Kennedy wasn't exactly the most upstanding man in marriage.

Bill Clinton and wifey? ehhh.

Also, loads of quality women choose bad boys. You can't really say that if you look at "history".

what is an "asshole" type of guy. Different types.

Posted by andsssssss

love this one.

So true and sad. Cat with quiet girl at home. Sweet girl loving jerks. And bitches marry rich men.

and the nice guy is alone. Poor nice guy and nice quiet girl don't ever get together.