lisabeth
@lisabethur8
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Posted by Soulwhy do that??
I just pretend like I'm going to pay then at the last second, magically lose my wallet and make her pay for everything.
Flawless.

Posted by blackphasebut from reading this, you are tallying up.
And it's not about petty things like making dinner and getting gifts. It's more about the larger expenses.
For example.. my boyfriend rarely ever buys cigarettes, he mostly just bums off of me.. which I allow, although they are expensive as fuck! So when he complains about having to give me 20 bucks for gas so I can get to work, it makes me cranky due to how much I spend on him to smoke and how much gas I spend running him around without asking for any of it back. When I am low on cash I ask to borrow, and sometimes I don't expect to have to pay back due to the fact that i spend so much on him without saying shit about it. But I don't ever keep track, I just expect him to help me out when I am broke because I wouldn't be in that state if he was taking care of his own habits and crap. Generally it's not too much of a problem, but he grumbles every now and again and it bugs me, obviously..

Posted by lisabethur8Lol. Nothing like a great use of good looks, especially when it bags you a free meal!Posted by Soulwhy do that??
I just pretend like I'm going to pay then at the last second, magically lose my wallet and make her pay for everything.
Flawless.
just eat and run.
*rollseyes*click to expand
Posted by blackphaseit just sounds like he has no money.Posted by lisabethur8No.. I don't keep a tally, and neither of us often complain. But I am aware that I buy all of the cigarettes and gas.. I'd have to be half retarded to not realize that. So when I ask for some money for gas because I am broke it should be an easy yes, I'd think at least. It's helping each other out in times of need, not keeping score or comparing. I help him when he needs it and he helps me when I do.. I'd just like to not hear a grumble when I need help, cause I don't grumble every single time he bums a smoke ya know?Posted by blackphasebut from reading this, you are tallying up.
And it's not about petty things like making dinner and getting gifts. It's more about the larger expenses.
For example.. my boyfriend rarely ever buys cigarettes, he mostly just bums off of me.. which I allow, although they are expensive as fuck! So when he complains about having to give me 20 bucks for gas so I can get to work, it makes me cranky due to how much I spend on him to smoke and how much gas I spend running him around without asking for any of it back. When I am low on cash I ask to borrow, and sometimes I don't expect to have to pay back due to the fact that i spend so much on him without saying shit about it. But I don't ever keep track, I just expect him to help me out when I am broke because I wouldn't be in that state if he was taking care of his own habits and crap. Generally it's not too much of a problem, but he grumbles every now and again and it bugs me, obviously..
both of you are tallying up and complaining what the other does.
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Posted by Souluh you dont need to be deceptive about it. be up front about it.Posted by lisabethur8Lol. Nothing like a great use of good looks, especially when it bags you a free meal!Posted by Soulwhy do that??
I just pretend like I'm going to pay then at the last second, magically lose my wallet and make her pay for everything.
Flawless.
just eat and run.
*rollseyes*
😉click to expand
Posted by lisabethur8wanted to add on to this...Posted by blackphaseit just sounds like he has no money.Posted by lisabethur8No.. I don't keep a tally, and neither of us often complain. But I am aware that I buy all of the cigarettes and gas.. I'd have to be half retarded to not realize that. So when I ask for some money for gas because I am broke it should be an easy yes, I'd think at least. It's helping each other out in times of need, not keeping score or comparing. I help him when he needs it and he helps me when I do.. I'd just like to not hear a grumble when I need help, cause I don't grumble every single time he bums a smoke ya know?Posted by blackphasebut from reading this, you are tallying up.
And it's not about petty things like making dinner and getting gifts. It's more about the larger expenses.
For example.. my boyfriend rarely ever buys cigarettes, he mostly just bums off of me.. which I allow, although they are expensive as fuck! So when he complains about having to give me 20 bucks for gas so I can get to work, it makes me cranky due to how much I spend on him to smoke and how much gas I spend running him around without asking for any of it back. When I am low on cash I ask to borrow, and sometimes I don't expect to have to pay back due to the fact that i spend so much on him without saying shit about it. But I don't ever keep track, I just expect him to help me out when I am broke because I wouldn't be in that state if he was taking care of his own habits and crap. Generally it's not too much of a problem, but he grumbles every now and again and it bugs me, obviously..
both of you are tallying up and complaining what the other does.
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Posted by lisabethur8Older women are much more attractive then younger women anyway.Posted by Souluh you dont need to be deceptive about it. be up front about it.Posted by lisabethur8Lol. Nothing like a great use of good looks, especially when it bags you a free meal!Posted by Soulwhy do that??
I just pretend like I'm going to pay then at the last second, magically lose my wallet and make her pay for everything.
Flawless.
just eat and run.
*rollseyes*
😉
i bet there's alot of Sugar mommas who would love to take out a guy like you and treat you and treat you like a prince. they need companionship too.click to expand
Posted by blackphasePosted by lisabethur8He does, he just doesn't budget very well like I do. Although lately he has been off due to a broken collarbone and is not making his full wage. But even before that, he mostly just blew his money on stupid shit and didn't budget well, so I ended up having to make up for that and put more into the things that we needed. But for the first 8 months of our relationship he had no job, I did it all. So he is doing more than he did previously, but it just really grinds my gears when he complains about having to help me out, cause I did it for so long without barely saying anything about it. Das all.Posted by blackphaseit just sounds like he has no money.Posted by lisabethur8No.. I don't keep a tally, and neither of us often complain. But I am aware that I buy all of the cigarettes and gas.. I'd have to be half retarded to not realize that. So when I ask for some money for gas because I am broke it should be an easy yes, I'd think at least. It's helping each other out in times of need, not keeping score or comparing. I help him when he needs it and he helps me when I do.. I'd just like to not hear a grumble when I need help, cause I don't grumble every single time he bums a smoke ya know?Posted by blackphasebut from reading this, you are tallying up.
And it's not about petty things like making dinner and getting gifts. It's more about the larger expenses.
For example.. my boyfriend rarely ever buys cigarettes, he mostly just bums off of me.. which I allow, although they are expensive as fuck! So when he complains about having to give me 20 bucks for gas so I can get to work, it makes me cranky due to how much I spend on him to smoke and how much gas I spend running him around without asking for any of it back. When I am low on cash I ask to borrow, and sometimes I don't expect to have to pay back due to the fact that i spend so much on him without saying shit about it. But I don't ever keep track, I just expect him to help me out when I am broke because I wouldn't be in that state if he was taking care of his own habits and crap. Generally it's not too much of a problem, but he grumbles every now and again and it bugs me, obviously..
both of you are tallying up and complaining what the other does.
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l him, im sure guys make the effort to make sure he wont complain. or something like that. dont let it fester.
Posted by Soulthats good, soul.Posted by lisabethur8Older women are much more attractive then younger women anyway.Posted by Souluh you dont need to be deceptive about it. be up front about it.Posted by lisabethur8Lol. Nothing like a great use of good looks, especially when it bags you a free meal!Posted by Soulwhy do that??
I just pretend like I'm going to pay then at the last second, magically lose my wallet and make her pay for everything.
Flawless.
just eat and run.
*rollseyes*
😉
i bet there's alot of Sugar mommas who would love to take out a guy like you and treat you and treat you like a prince. they need companionship too.
Something about the finer things in life and having your shit together is deeply attractive.click to expand
go get 'em!!!!
www.http://cougars.org
or something like that. lol
Posted by blackphaselol well at least it's getting better. that's a good sign!
@lisabethur8 - You'd think wouldn't you? Me bringing anything up only seems to make matters worse in my life. But things have been getting better in this area, he is much more helpful than he was before, it's just a slap in the face to hear him sigh about it. Like come on dude.. LOL

Posted by lisabethur8No. I think it's silly. You shouldn't keep tabs. Just treat each other to whatever you want. Like, if there's something I want to do, then I'll spring for it. Same for him.
and tally up what you pay when you're dating or going out with someone?
for example...
She is making me dinner, so à count that, and i will pay dinner tomorrow.
or...
he bought me this,
so I will do that tomorrow.
i mean do you COUNT what your SO is doing for you each time??
and then tally it up?
i'm just noticing this with some people.

Posted by truecapSame, I'm more of the "Lets go to Publix and I'll buy groceries for a few meals", and he is more "I'm ordering Take-out/Delivery".Posted by lisabethur8No. I think it's silly. You shouldn't keep tabs. Just treat each other to whatever you want. Like, if there's something I want to do, then I'll spring for it. Same for him.
and tally up what you pay when you're dating or going out with someone?
for example...
She is making me dinner, so à count that, and i will pay dinner tomorrow.
or...
he bought me this,
so I will do that tomorrow.
i mean do you COUNT what your SO is doing for you each time??
and then tally it up?
i'm just noticing this with some people.
However, my aqua and I have been together so long that one of us will pick up dinner and the other will pick up the movie and popcorn.click to expand






Posted by blackphaseHe sounds a bit selfish or a premadonna. Like he doesn't expect you to fall on any hard times and to ask HIM for money. Sometimes when people are too nice to a taker, they start to act that way bcuz someone's is asking to take from them.Posted by lisabethur8Yeah, I know. And I really don't ever complain, unless he is giving me crap for asking him to pay for something when I have no money. That does bug me, but I think that is understandable.Posted by lisabethur8wanted to add on to this...Posted by blackphaseit just sounds like he has no money.Posted by lisabethur8No.. I don't keep a tally, and neither of us often complain. But I am aware that I buy all of the cigarettes and gas.. I'd have to be half retarded to not realize that. So when I ask for some money for gas because I am broke it should be an easy yes, I'd think at least. It's helping each other out in times of need, not keeping score or comparing. I help him when he needs it and he helps me when I do.. I'd just like to not hear a grumble when I need help, cause I don't grumble every single time he bums a smoke ya know?Posted by blackphasebut from reading this, you are tallying up.
And it's not about petty things like making dinner and getting gifts. It's more about the larger expenses.
For example.. my boyfriend rarely ever buys cigarettes, he mostly just bums off of me.. which I allow, although they are expensive as fuck! So when he complains about having to give me 20 bucks for gas so I can get to work, it makes me cranky due to how much I spend on him to smoke and how much gas I spend running him around without asking for any of it back. When I am low on cash I ask to borrow, and sometimes I don't expect to have to pay back due to the fact that i spend so much on him without saying shit about it. But I don't ever keep track, I just expect him to help me out when I am broke because I wouldn't be in that state if he was taking care of his own habits and crap. Generally it's not too much of a problem, but he grumbles every now and again and it bugs me, obviously..
both of you are tallying up and complaining what the other does.
maybe he should get a bigger paying work, to pay for his "habits" so you dont have to complain you know??
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Posted by Lifepath8PiscesAnd that is?Posted by Soullol, omg
I just pretend like I'm going to pay then at the last second, magically lose my wallet and make her pay for everything.
Flawless.
I just got an idea from the videos lisabethur posted the other day.click to expand
Posted by Lifepath8Pisces😆 😆'Posted by SoulOr you can bag a free meal and free refills. lolPosted by lisabethur8Lol. Nothing like a great use of good looks, especially when it bags you a free meal!Posted by Soulwhy do that??
I just pretend like I'm going to pay then at the last second, magically lose my wallet and make her pay for everything.
Flawless.
just eat and run.
*rollseyes*
😉
Lisabethur8 - traumatized me with those videos she posted the other day.click to expand
Posted by Lifepath8PiscesPosted by Soulwidth="420" height="315" src="http://url.dxpnet.com?f=https% 3A www% 2Eyoutube% 2Ecom embed jHDSU8SGRJY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>Posted by Lifepath8PiscesAnd that is?Posted by Soullol, omg
I just pretend like I'm going to pay then at the last second, magically lose my wallet and make her pay for everything.
Flawless.
I just got an idea from the videos lisabethur posted the other day.click to expand
Posted by Lifepath8PiscesPosted by lisabethur8lol, you are not bad. I think most people do that.Posted by Lifepath8PiscesPosted by Soulwidth="420" height="315" src="http://url.dxpnet.com?f=https% 3A www% 2Eyoutube% 2Ecom embed jHDSU8SGRJY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>Posted by Lifepath8PiscesAnd that is?Posted by Soullol, omg
I just pretend like I'm going to pay then at the last second, magically lose my wallet and make her pay for everything.
Flawless.
I just got an idea from the videos lisabethur posted the other day.
lol i have a tiny bit of "cheapskate" in me too. 😄 😄
i bring sodas and sandwiches in my backpack to places like Disneyland, Zoo's , and all amusement parks, so we dont have to pay the ungodly amount that is charged at the concession stands for sandwiches and sodas there.
But on a date? LOL give a me a break. Anyways I haven't mentioned that I went out on two dates with a guy, the first date was alright he didn
't pull this shit, the second date we went to the movies and when we got there he had a cup with him. LOL
I was like........okkkkkkkk and when he was ordering I got infront of him and told the guy from the Movies, I want some popcorn and a drink and took out my debit card.
The guy ofcourse said he got it. It was a good movie so I had fun, but it did stay in the back of my mind that he recycled his last cup he used when he went to the movies, possibly from another date, who knows. hahahahha
Anyways when I got home and he texted me, wanting to go out on a third date.. I never replied. I vanished......... never talked to him again and erased his number.
In no way I will go through this shit. This is why I like making my own money, single, in a relationship, or married. My Leo ex never pulled this shit on me, I respect him for that.click to expand

Posted by deedee85i dont keep tabs at all, but i just normally nurture, take care of my family. I get up first and make them breakfast, clean up the house, and prepare everything for them.
I never keep tabs.
BUT I gave my then bf $ 2000 last year when he was in a jam. I never thought about it again, even though he mentioned a couple times that he would pay it back.
Last week we had a big blowout and I called in his debt.
I still don't care about the money. I did that to hurt him because I was hurt.
Posted by TheLibraMudrayour leo must have libra personal planets,or something, you both sound very fair. and talk about fairness alot.
Um my leo and I almost get into it over paying for each other all the time.
"I got this one, babe"
"Nah, it's all good, you got the last one. I got it"
"No, seriously, I got it"
"Would you just let me do it?"
"No"
"Can we just be fair? God, here I go, I'm getting up and paying"
"Sit down."
"Ok" LOL
My libra ass pulling out the fair card. He buys me way too much as it is. Always surprising me. I make money too ya know?!click to expand
Posted by SugeredSapomg that is messed up.
I never do. I spend money when I care. Also my ex was pretty broke so it wasn't an issue. What was more telling was that when he did have money he never did the same. Something I don't want to repeat.

Posted by lisabethur8No underlining issues I was his caretaker in a way I guess. I never mentioned it and he never saw reason to change because of this. I never had any complaints about it until I became pregnant then it was unacceptable. My baby would need the money and food I would have given him. When he didn't change I took my baby and left. Clearly I should have moved on way sooner but then I wouldn't have my little one and that would be a shame. I guess in the end I got my moneys worth lol she is more then worth any money I spent and his family's anticsPosted by SugeredSapomg that is messed up.
I never do. I spend money when I care. Also my ex was pretty broke so it wasn't an issue. What was more telling was that when he did have money he never did the same. Something I don't want to repeat.
he finally has a job and he didnt even be generous to you?
EDIT : he did take advantage of your kindness, generosity,
but i dont know the deeper issues since i dont know you both.... still that is not good. Good on you for not accepting that.click to expand

Posted by SugeredSapyou see, i dont believe in the man being the housewife, (i know that modern times have turned it around that men are the housewives and the woman is the caretaker, nurturer.) but i accept that these days, PLENTY of men are housewives. or houseman's. fine for them....but like in your case, you get pregnant and you need help and he's NOT there to even help you when it matters most.Posted by lisabethur8No underlining issues I was his caretaker in a way I guess. I never mentioned it and he never saw reason to change because of this. I never had any complaints about it until I became pregnant then it was unacceptable. My baby would need the money and food I would have given him. When he didn't change I took my baby and left. Clearly I should have moved on way sooner but then I wouldn't have my little one and that would be a shame. I guess in the end I got my moneys worth lol she is more then worth any money I spent and his family's anticsPosted by SugeredSapomg that is messed up.
I never do. I spend money when I care. Also my ex was pretty broke so it wasn't an issue. What was more telling was that when he did have money he never did the same. Something I don't want to repeat.
he finally has a job and he didnt even be generous to you?
EDIT : he did take advantage of your kindness, generosity,
but i dont know the deeper issues since i dont know you both.... still that is not good. Good on you for not accepting that.
Now he's broke again I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't start selling the things I bought him.click to expand
Posted by SugeredSapjesus christ. that's a low blow of him.
Forgot to add that he accuses me of only wanting a kid out of him. He might have a point. If I could get pregnant on my own I prob wouldn't date

Posted by lisabethur8I keep count.
and tally up what you pay when you're dating or going out with someone?
for example...
She is making me dinner, so à count that, and i will pay dinner tomorrow.
or...
he bought me this,
so I will do that tomorrow.
i mean do you COUNT what your SO is doing for you each time??
and then tally it up?
i'm just noticing this with some people.
Posted by DMVi thought it's because of your 7th house sun and venus?? and you have saturn and Jupiter in libraPosted by lisabethur8I keep count.
and tally up what you pay when you're dating or going out with someone?
for example...
She is making me dinner, so à count that, and i will pay dinner tomorrow.
or...
he bought me this,
so I will do that tomorrow.
i mean do you COUNT what your SO is doing for you each time??
and then tally it up?
i'm just noticing this with some people.
Venus in capricornclick to expand

Posted by aquapiscescuspSame here.
Not really but if I notice that it's very one sided and they are taking advantage (I tend to be very generous), then it's over. I get really turned off.

Posted by aquapiscescuspAgain. Ditto
If my partner is also very generous, then I go out of my way to balance it out.

Posted by lisabethur8That's the thing though I also did the house work. I love cleaning and cooking so once again not an issue...yeah lol.All he did was play video games and..yeah it's pretty damning when thought about like that lolPosted by SugeredSapyou see, i dont believe in the man being the housewife, (i know that modern times have turned it around that men are the housewives and the woman is the caretaker, nurturer.) but i accept that these days, PLENTY of men are housewives. or houseman's. fine for them....but like in your case, you get pregnant and you need help and he's NOT there to even help you when it matters most.Posted by lisabethur8No underlining issues I was his caretaker in a way I guess. I never mentioned it and he never saw reason to change because of this. I never had any complaints about it until I became pregnant then it was unacceptable. My baby would need the money and food I would have given him. When he didn't change I took my baby and left. Clearly I should have moved on way sooner but then I wouldn't have my little one and that would be a shame. I guess in the end I got my moneys worth lol she is more then worth any money I spent and his family's anticsPosted by SugeredSapomg that is messed up.
I never do. I spend money when I care. Also my ex was pretty broke so it wasn't an issue. What was more telling was that when he did have money he never did the same. Something I don't want to repeat.
he finally has a job and he didnt even be generous to you?
EDIT : he did take advantage of your kindness, generosity,
but i dont know the deeper issues since i dont know you both.... still that is not good. Good on you for not accepting that.
Now he's broke again I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't start selling the things I bought him.
and you even know he's going to sell the stuff you bought him. That's really bad.
your baby is the bright light indeed.
i'm very very OLD FASHIONED......for me, it's the man who is the provider and must take care of the family, and the woman is the traditional housewife, stay at home mother, and if she wants to work, fine, but know that her duties are at the home and family.
that's what makes me happy and appeals to me the most.
at least you lived and learn, SugaredSap.
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Posted by cheekyfaerieI dont have broke friends either.
Know it sounds like I do, given how I talk about the Pisces ex, but that was a severe imbalance. Think APC and I are on the same page. As long as I don't feel taken advantage of, I'm good.
The Boy said early on that I was doing too much. I explained how most of my bills come outta one check so I can be a bit more frivolous with the other. That's kinda how we operate now. It's unspoken that I'll pick up more tabs during that time. But we've always had a good sense of give and take. He'll pick up a tab and I'll leave the tip, for example.
It's the same way with friends. That give and take. Think people are subconsciously more mindful of fairness, when it's someone they really care about.

Posted by lisabethur8I have a 5th house sun.Posted by DMVi thought it's because of your 7th house sun and venus?? and you have saturn and Jupiter in libraPosted by lisabethur8I keep count.
and tally up what you pay when you're dating or going out with someone?
for example...
She is making me dinner, so à count that, and i will pay dinner tomorrow.
or...
he bought me this,
so I will do that tomorrow.
i mean do you COUNT what your SO is doing for you each time??
and then tally it up?
i'm just noticing this with some people.
Venus in capricorn
that helps in the fairness department.click to expand

Posted by lisabethur8I did demand sex all the time. Hehe he said he felt usedPosted by SugeredSapjesus christ. that's a low blow of him.
Forgot to add that he accuses me of only wanting a kid out of him. He might have a point. If I could get pregnant on my own I prob wouldn't date
when these guys get hurt they wanna lash out at the woman. Sounds irresponsible.
EDIT : It' s like, he IGNORES the baby's presence and only thinks of you getting a baby out of it. priorities....click to expand
Posted by DMVstill you have saturn libra and Jupiter libra....Posted by lisabethur8I have a 5th house sun.Posted by DMVi thought it's because of your 7th house sun and venus?? and you have saturn and Jupiter in libraPosted by lisabethur8I keep count.
and tally up what you pay when you're dating or going out with someone?
for example...
She is making me dinner, so à count that, and i will pay dinner tomorrow.
or...
he bought me this,
so I will do that tomorrow.
i mean do you COUNT what your SO is doing for you each time??
and then tally it up?
i'm just noticing this with some people.
Venus in capricorn
that helps in the fairness department.
Nope. All venus in capclick to expand
Posted by SugeredSapmaybe someone else with aqua placements.Posted by lisabethur8I did demand sex all the time. Hehe he said he felt usedPosted by SugeredSapjesus christ. that's a low blow of him.
Forgot to add that he accuses me of only wanting a kid out of him. He might have a point. If I could get pregnant on my own I prob wouldn't date
when these guys get hurt they wanna lash out at the woman. Sounds irresponsible.
EDIT : It' s like, he IGNORES the baby's presence and only thinks of you getting a baby out of it. priorities....
Not upset about it but I doubt I will ever date a Aqua againclick to expand
Posted by SugeredSapPosted by lisabethur8That's the thing though I also did the house work. I love cleaning and cooking so once again not an issue...yeah lol.All he did was play video games and..yeah it's pretty damning when thought about like that lolPosted by SugeredSapyou see, i dont believe in the man being the housewife, (i know that modern times have turned it around that men are the housewives and the woman is the caretaker, nurturer.) but i accept that these days, PLENTY of men are housewives. or houseman's. fine for them....but like in your case, you get pregnant and you need help and he's NOT there to even help you when it matters most.Posted by lisabethur8No underlining issues I was his caretaker in a way I guess. I never mentioned it and he never saw reason to change because of this. I never had any complaints about it until I became pregnant then it was unacceptable. My baby would need the money and food I would have given him. When he didn't change I took my baby and left. Clearly I should have moved on way sooner but then I wouldn't have my little one and that would be a shame. I guess in the end I got my moneys worth lol she is more then worth any money I spent and his family's anticsPosted by SugeredSapomg that is messed up.
I never do. I spend money when I care. Also my ex was pretty broke so it wasn't an issue. What was more telling was that when he did have money he never did the same. Something I don't want to repeat.
he finally has a job and he didnt even be generous to you?
EDIT : he did take advantage of your kindness, generosity,
but i dont know the deeper issues since i dont know you both.... still that is not good. Good on you for not accepting that.
Now he's broke again I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't start selling the things I bought him.
and you even know he's going to sell the stuff you bought him. That's really bad.
your baby is the bright light indeed.
i'm very very OLD FASHIONED......for me, it's the man who is the provider and must take care of the family, and the woman is the traditional housewife, stay at home mother, and if she wants to work, fine, but know that her duties are at the home and family.
that's what makes me happy and appeals to me the most.
at least you lived and learn, SugaredSap.
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for example...
She is making me dinner, so à count that, and i will pay dinner tomorrow.
or...
he bought me this,
so I will do that tomorrow.
i mean do you COUNT what your SO is doing for you each time??
and then tally it up?
i'm just noticing this with some people.