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Tallying up and keeping record of things like that seem to be setting yourself up for disappointment. What if you do something and nothing is given quickly enough in return? As long as there is give and take in a relationship then why keep track of it? I give from my heart, when I want to give, and what I want to give, not expecting anything in return. When it is reciprocated it is a pleasant surprise. Where would the tallying end? Only financially related things? Time related things? Thoughtful actions?
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Posted by blackphase
And it's not about petty things like making dinner and getting gifts. It's more about the larger expenses.

For example.. my boyfriend rarely ever buys cigarettes, he mostly just bums off of me.. which I allow, although they are expensive as fuck! So when he complains about having to give me 20 bucks for gas so I can get to work, it makes me cranky due to how much I spend on him to smoke and how much gas I spend running him around without asking for any of it back. When I am low on cash I ask to borrow, and sometimes I don't expect to have to pay back due to the fact that i spend so much on him without saying shit about it. But I don't ever keep track, I just expect him to help me out when I am broke because I wouldn't be in that state if he was taking care of his own habits and crap. Generally it's not too much of a problem, but he grumbles every now and again and it bugs me, obviously..
but from reading this, you are tallying up.

both of you are tallying up and complaining what the other does.





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And it's not about petty things like making dinner and getting gifts. It's more about the larger expenses.

For example.. my boyfriend rarely ever buys cigarettes, he mostly just bums off of me.. which I allow, although they are expensive as fuck! So when he complains about having to give me 20 bucks for gas so I can get to work, it makes me cranky due to how much I spend on him to smoke and how much gas I spend running him around without asking for any of it back. When I am low on cash I ask to borrow, and sometimes I don't expect to have to pay back due to the fact that i spend so much on him without saying shit about it. But I don't ever keep track, I just expect him to help me out when I am broke because I wouldn't be in that state if he was taking care of his own habits and crap. Generally it's not too much of a problem, but he grumbles every now and again and it bugs me, obviously..
but from reading this, you are tallying up.

both of you are tallying up and complaining what the other does.




No.. I don't keep a tally, and neither of us often complain. But I am aware that I buy all of the cigarettes and gas.. I'd have to be half retarded to not realize that. So when I ask for some money for gas because I am broke it should be an easy yes, I'd think at least. It's helping each other out in times of need, not keeping score or comparing. I help him when he needs it and he helps me when I do.. I'd just like to not hear a grumble when I need help, cause I don't grumble every single time he bums a smoke ya know?
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it just sounds like he has no money.
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I just pretend like I'm going to pay then at the last second, magically lose my wallet and make her pay for everything.

Flawless.
why do that??


just eat and run.

*rollseyes*
Lol. Nothing like a great use of good looks, especially when it bags you a free meal!

😉
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uh you dont need to be deceptive about it. be up front about it.

i bet there's alot of Sugar mommas who would love to take out a guy like you and treat you and treat you like a prince. they need companionship too.
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And it's not about petty things like making dinner and getting gifts. It's more about the larger expenses.

For example.. my boyfriend rarely ever buys cigarettes, he mostly just bums off of me.. which I allow, although they are expensive as fuck! So when he complains about having to give me 20 bucks for gas so I can get to work, it makes me cranky due to how much I spend on him to smoke and how much gas I spend running him around without asking for any of it back. When I am low on cash I ask to borrow, and sometimes I don't expect to have to pay back due to the fact that i spend so much on him without saying shit about it. But I don't ever keep track, I just expect him to help me out when I am broke because I wouldn't be in that state if he was taking care of his own habits and crap. Generally it's not too much of a problem, but he grumbles every now and again and it bugs me, obviously..
but from reading this, you are tallying up.

both of you are tallying up and complaining what the other does.




No.. I don't keep a tally, and neither of us often complain. But I am aware that I buy all of the cigarettes and gas.. I'd have to be half retarded to not realize that. So when I ask for some money for gas because I am broke it should be an easy yes, I'd think at least. It's helping each other out in times of need, not keeping score or comparing. I help him when he needs it and he helps me when I do.. I'd just like to not hear a grumble when I need help, cause I don't grumble every single time he bums a smoke ya know?
it just sounds like he has no money.
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wanted to add on to this...

maybe he should get a bigger paying work, to pay for his "habits" so you dont have to complain you know??

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I just pretend like I'm going to pay then at the last second, magically lose my wallet and make her pay for everything.

Flawless.
why do that??


just eat and run.

*rollseyes*
Lol. Nothing like a great use of good looks, especially when it bags you a free meal!

😉
uh you dont need to be deceptive about it. be up front about it.

i bet there's alot of Sugar mommas who would love to take out a guy like you and treat you and treat you like a prince. they need companionship too.
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Older women are much more attractive then younger women anyway.

Something about the finer things in life and having your shit together is deeply attractive.
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And it's not about petty things like making dinner and getting gifts. It's more about the larger expenses.

For example.. my boyfriend rarely ever buys cigarettes, he mostly just bums off of me.. which I allow, although they are expensive as fuck! So when he complains about having to give me 20 bucks for gas so I can get to work, it makes me cranky due to how much I spend on him to smoke and how much gas I spend running him around without asking for any of it back. When I am low on cash I ask to borrow, and sometimes I don't expect to have to pay back due to the fact that i spend so much on him without saying shit about it. But I don't ever keep track, I just expect him to help me out when I am broke because I wouldn't be in that state if he was taking care of his own habits and crap. Generally it's not too much of a problem, but he grumbles every now and again and it bugs me, obviously..
but from reading this, you are tallying up.

both of you are tallying up and complaining what the other does.




No.. I don't keep a tally, and neither of us often complain. But I am aware that I buy all of the cigarettes and gas.. I'd have to be half retarded to not realize that. So when I ask for some money for gas because I am broke it should be an easy yes, I'd think at least. It's helping each other out in times of need, not keeping score or comparing. I help him when he needs it and he helps me when I do.. I'd just like to not hear a grumble when I need help, cause I don't grumble every single time he bums a smoke ya know?
it just sounds like he has no money.
He does, he just doesn't budget very well like I do. Although lately he has been off due to a broken collarbone and is not making his full wage. But even before that, he mostly just blew his money on stupid shit and didn't budget well, so I ended up having to make up for that and put more into the things that we needed. But for the first 8 months of our relationship he had no job, I did it all. So he is doing more than he did previously, but it just really grinds my gears when he complains about having to help me out, cause I did it for so long without barely saying anything about it. Das all.
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the problem i see here is that you should tell him how it upsets you. Once you tell him, im sure guys make the effort to make sure he wont compla
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l him, im sure guys make the effort to make sure he wont complain. or something like that. dont let it fester.

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I just pretend like I'm going to pay then at the last second, magically lose my wallet and make her pay for everything.

Flawless.
why do that??


just eat and run.

*rollseyes*
Lol. Nothing like a great use of good looks, especially when it bags you a free meal!

😉
uh you dont need to be deceptive about it. be up front about it.

i bet there's alot of Sugar mommas who would love to take out a guy like you and treat you and treat you like a prince. they need companionship too.
Older women are much more attractive then younger women anyway.

Something about the finer things in life and having your shit together is deeply attractive.
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thats good, soul.


go get 'em!!!!


www.http://cougars.org

or something like that. lol
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Posted by lisabethur8
and tally up what you pay when you're dating or going out with someone?

for example...

She is making me dinner, so í count that, and i will pay dinner tomorrow.

or...

he bought me this,
so I will do that tomorrow.

i mean do you COUNT what your SO is doing for you each time??

and then tally it up?


i'm just noticing this with some people.
No. I think it's silly. You shouldn't keep tabs. Just treat each other to whatever you want. Like, if there's something I want to do, then I'll spring for it. Same for him.

However, my aqua and I have been together so long that one of us will pick up dinner and the other will pick up the movie and popcorn.
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Posted by lisabethur8
and tally up what you pay when you're dating or going out with someone?

for example...

She is making me dinner, so í count that, and i will pay dinner tomorrow.

or...

he bought me this,
so I will do that tomorrow.

i mean do you COUNT what your SO is doing for you each time??

and then tally it up?


i'm just noticing this with some people.
No. I think it's silly. You shouldn't keep tabs. Just treat each other to whatever you want. Like, if there's something I want to do, then I'll spring for it. Same for him.

However, my aqua and I have been together so long that one of us will pick up dinner and the other will pick up the movie and popcorn.
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Same, I'm more of the "Lets go to Publix and I'll buy groceries for a few meals", and he is more "I'm ordering Take-out/Delivery".

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We mesh well as long as he understands my limits. His biggest complaint about his ex's was that they never helped him with any self improvement things around the house.

So we're putting together the bar table yesterday and I was like, look I don't mind helping you put it all together, as long as you understand I am the "I will hold the pieces together and read the instructions, you operate the tools and we're good" kinda helper.


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It depends on the depth and seriousness of the relationship.

An SO could just be an acquaintance, according to some people in here who has clung to a man because he noticed her.

this cannot be measured, until the relationship has been identified by both parties as being the same.

If you're talking about dating .. then that should speak for itself, in that people should realize that the other person isn't an SO. However, from the looks of it ... people think they own the other simply because he said "hello" to her.

sad, really



If you're talking about a serious relationship, in where both parties are on the same page and BOTH parties believe that the other is their SO .... then terms of relating should have already been established before ever going out to dine, or movies, etc.
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And it's not about petty things like making dinner and getting gifts. It's more about the larger expenses.

For example.. my boyfriend rarely ever buys cigarettes, he mostly just bums off of me.. which I allow, although they are expensive as fuck! So when he complains about having to give me 20 bucks for gas so I can get to work, it makes me cranky due to how much I spend on him to smoke and how much gas I spend running him around without asking for any of it back. When I am low on cash I ask to borrow, and sometimes I don't expect to have to pay back due to the fact that i spend so much on him without saying shit about it. But I don't ever keep track, I just expect him to help me out when I am broke because I wouldn't be in that state if he was taking care of his own habits and crap. Generally it's not too much of a problem, but he grumbles every now and again and it bugs me, obviously..
but from reading this, you are tallying up.

both of you are tallying up and complaining what the other does.




No.. I don't keep a tally, and neither of us often complain. But I am aware that I buy all of the cigarettes and gas.. I'd have to be half retarded to not realize that. So when I ask for some money for gas because I am broke it should be an easy yes, I'd think at least. It's helping each other out in times of need, not keeping score or comparing. I help him when he needs it and he helps me when I do.. I'd just like to not hear a grumble when I need help, cause I don't grumble every single time he bums a smoke ya know?
it just sounds like he has no money.
wanted to add on to this...

maybe he should get a bigger paying work, to pay for his "habits" so you dont have to complain you know??
Yeah, I know. And I really don't ever complain, unless he is giving me crap for asking him to pay for something when I have no money. That does bug me, but I think that is understandable.
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He sounds a bit selfish or a premadonna. Like he doesn't expect you to fall on any hard times and to ask HIM for money. Sometimes when people are too nice to a taker, they start to act that way bcuz someone's is asking to take from them.

You seem like a nice person
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I just pretend like I'm going to pay then at the last second, magically lose my wallet and make her pay for everything.

Flawless.
why do that??


just eat and run.

*rollseyes*
Lol. Nothing like a great use of good looks, especially when it bags you a free meal!

😉
Or you can bag a free meal and free refills. lol
Lisabethur8 - traumatized me with those videos she posted the other day.
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😆 😆'
that ain't nothing!!!
this man has been married a long time with children and he took his wife and children and parents to FINE DINING:

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I just pretend like I'm going to pay then at the last second, magically lose my wallet and make her pay for everything.

Flawless.
lol, omg

I just got an idea from the videos lisabethur posted the other day.
And that is?
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lol i have a tiny bit of "cheapskate" in me too. 😄 😄

i bring sodas and sandwiches in my backpack to places like Disneyland, Zoo's , and all amusement parks, so we dont have to pay the ungodly amount that is charged at the concession stands for sandwiches and sodas there.
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I just pretend like I'm going to pay then at the last second, magically lose my wallet and make her pay for everything.

Flawless.
lol, omg

I just got an idea from the videos lisabethur posted the other day.
And that is?
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lol i have a tiny bit of "cheapskate" in me too. 😄 😄

i bring sodas and sandwiches in my backpack to places like Disneyland, Zoo's , and all amusement parks, so we dont have to pay the ungodly amount that is charged at the concession stands for sandwiches and sodas there.
lol, you are not bad. I think most people do that.

But on a date? LOL give a me a break. Anyways I haven't mentioned that I went out on two dates with a guy, the first date was alright he didn
't pull this shit, the second date we went to the movies and when we got there he had a cup with him. LOL

I was like........okkkkkkkk and when he was ordering I got infront of him and told the guy from the Movies, I want some popcorn and a drink and took out my debit card.
The guy ofcourse said he got it. It was a good movie so I had fun, but it did stay in the back of my mind that he recycled his last cup he used when he went to the movies, possibly from another date, who knows. hahahahha

Anyways when I got home and he texted me, wanting to go out on a third date.. I never replied. I vanished......... never talked to him again and erased his number.

In no way I will go through this shit. This is why I like making my own money, single, in a relationship, or married. My Leo ex never pulled this shit on me, I respect him for that.
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lol that was a funny story.
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Posted by deedee85
I never keep tabs.
BUT I gave my then bf $ 2000 last year when he was in a jam. I never thought about it again, even though he mentioned a couple times that he would pay it back.
Last week we had a big blowout and I called in his debt.

I still don't care about the money. I did that to hurt him because I was hurt.
i dont keep tabs at all, but i just normally nurture, take care of my family. I get up first and make them breakfast, clean up the house, and prepare everything for them.

it's ROUTINE. so i understand what it's like. i love routine and consistency.

that is sad about what happened to you though. maybe one day he will pay you back slowly when he gets a job. I mean he did say he would, so i hope he keeps his word.

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Um my leo and I almost get into it over paying for each other all the time.

"I got this one, babe"

"Nah, it's all good, you got the last one. I got it"

"No, seriously, I got it"

"Would you just let me do it?"

"No"

"Can we just be fair? God, here I go, I'm getting up and paying"

"Sit down."

"Ok" LOL

My libra ass pulling out the fair card. He buys me way too much as it is. Always surprising me. I make money too ya know?!
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your leo must have libra personal planets,or something, you both sound very fair. and talk about fairness alot.
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I never do. I spend money when I care. Also my ex was pretty broke so it wasn't an issue. What was more telling was that when he did have money he never did the same. Something I don't want to repeat.
omg that is messed up.

he finally has a job and he didnt even be generous to you?

EDIT : he did take advantage of your kindness, generosity,

but i dont know the deeper issues since i dont know you both.... still that is not good. Good on you for not accepting that.
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I never do. I spend money when I care. Also my ex was pretty broke so it wasn't an issue. What was more telling was that when he did have money he never did the same. Something I don't want to repeat.
omg that is messed up.

he finally has a job and he didnt even be generous to you?

EDIT : he did take advantage of your kindness, generosity,

but i dont know the deeper issues since i dont know you both.... still that is not good. Good on you for not accepting that.
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No underlining issues I was his caretaker in a way I guess. I never mentioned it and he never saw reason to change because of this. I never had any complaints about it until I became pregnant then it was unacceptable. My baby would need the money and food I would have given him. When he didn't change I took my baby and left. Clearly I should have moved on way sooner but then I wouldn't have my little one and that would be a shame. I guess in the end I got my moneys worth lol she is more then worth any money I spent and his family's antics


Now he's broke again I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't start selling the things I bought him.
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I never do. I spend money when I care. Also my ex was pretty broke so it wasn't an issue. What was more telling was that when he did have money he never did the same. Something I don't want to repeat.
omg that is messed up.

he finally has a job and he didnt even be generous to you?

EDIT : he did take advantage of your kindness, generosity,

but i dont know the deeper issues since i dont know you both.... still that is not good. Good on you for not accepting that.
No underlining issues I was his caretaker in a way I guess. I never mentioned it and he never saw reason to change because of this. I never had any complaints about it until I became pregnant then it was unacceptable. My baby would need the money and food I would have given him. When he didn't change I took my baby and left. Clearly I should have moved on way sooner but then I wouldn't have my little one and that would be a shame. I guess in the end I got my moneys worth lol she is more then worth any money I spent and his family's antics


Now he's broke again I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't start selling the things I bought him.
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you see, i dont believe in the man being the housewife, (i know that modern times have turned it around that men are the housewives and the woman is the caretaker, nurturer.) but i accept that these days, PLENTY of men are housewives. or houseman's. fine for them....but like in your case, you get pregnant and you need help and he's NOT there to even help you when it matters most.

and you even know he's going to sell the stuff you bought him. That's really bad.

your baby is the bright light indeed.
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Forgot to add that he accuses me of only wanting a kid out of him. He might have a point. If I could get pregnant on my own I prob wouldn't date
jesus christ. that's a low blow of him.

when these guys get hurt they wanna lash out at the woman. Sounds irresponsible.

EDIT : It' s like, he IGNORES the baby's presence and only thinks of you getting a baby out of it. priorities....
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Posted by lisabethur8
and tally up what you pay when you're dating or going out with someone?

for example...

She is making me dinner, so í count that, and i will pay dinner tomorrow.

or...

he bought me this,
so I will do that tomorrow.

i mean do you COUNT what your SO is doing for you each time??

and then tally it up?


i'm just noticing this with some people.
I keep count.

Venus in capricorn
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Posted by lisabethur8
and tally up what you pay when you're dating or going out with someone?

for example...

She is making me dinner, so í count that, and i will pay dinner tomorrow.

or...

he bought me this,
so I will do that tomorrow.

i mean do you COUNT what your SO is doing for you each time??

and then tally it up?


i'm just noticing this with some people.
I keep count.

Venus in capricorn
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i thought it's because of your 7th house sun and venus?? and you have saturn and Jupiter in libra

that helps in the fairness department.
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I never do. I spend money when I care. Also my ex was pretty broke so it wasn't an issue. What was more telling was that when he did have money he never did the same. Something I don't want to repeat.
omg that is messed up.

he finally has a job and he didnt even be generous to you?

EDIT : he did take advantage of your kindness, generosity,

but i dont know the deeper issues since i dont know you both.... still that is not good. Good on you for not accepting that.
No underlining issues I was his caretaker in a way I guess. I never mentioned it and he never saw reason to change because of this. I never had any complaints about it until I became pregnant then it was unacceptable. My baby would need the money and food I would have given him. When he didn't change I took my baby and left. Clearly I should have moved on way sooner but then I wouldn't have my little one and that would be a shame. I guess in the end I got my moneys worth lol she is more then worth any money I spent and his family's antics


Now he's broke again I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't start selling the things I bought him.
you see, i dont believe in the man being the housewife, (i know that modern times have turned it around that men are the housewives and the woman is the caretaker, nurturer.) but i accept that these days, PLENTY of men are housewives. or houseman's. fine for them....but like in your case, you get pregnant and you need help and he's NOT there to even help you when it matters most.

and you even know he's going to sell the stuff you bought him. That's really bad.

your baby is the bright light indeed.
i'm very very OLD FASHIONED......for me, it's the man who is the provider and must take care of the family, and the woman is the traditional housewife, stay at home mother, and if she wants to work, fine, but know that her duties are at the home and family.
that's what makes me happy and appeals to me the most.

at least you lived and learn, SugaredSap.

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That's the thing though I also did the house work. I love cleaning and cooking so once again not an issue...yeah lol.All he did was play video games and..yeah it's pretty damning when thought about like that lol

I like to believe I'm old fashioned at heart but I wonder why I made the exception for him. Clearly there's more facets to it then just that.

Yup now I only want older stable men
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Know it sounds like I do, given how I talk about the Pisces ex, but that was a severe imbalance. Think APC and I are on the same page. As long as I don't feel taken advantage of, I'm good.

The Boy said early on that I was doing too much. I explained how most of my bills come outta one check so I can be a bit more frivolous with the other. That's kinda how we operate now. It's unspoken that I'll pick up more tabs during that time. But we've always had a good sense of give and take. He'll pick up a tab and I'll leave the tip, for example.

It's the same way with friends. That give and take. Think people are subconsciously more mindful of fairness, when it's someone they really care about.
I dont have broke friends either.

I pick up the tab, you pick up the tab
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and tally up what you pay when you're dating or going out with someone?

for example...

She is making me dinner, so í count that, and i will pay dinner tomorrow.

or...

he bought me this,
so I will do that tomorrow.

i mean do you COUNT what your SO is doing for you each time??

and then tally it up?


i'm just noticing this with some people.
I keep count.

Venus in capricorn
i thought it's because of your 7th house sun and venus?? and you have saturn and Jupiter in libra

that helps in the fairness department.
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I have a 5th house sun.

Nope. All venus in cap
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Forgot to add that he accuses me of only wanting a kid out of him. He might have a point. If I could get pregnant on my own I prob wouldn't date
jesus christ. that's a low blow of him.

when these guys get hurt they wanna lash out at the woman. Sounds irresponsible.

EDIT : It' s like, he IGNORES the baby's presence and only thinks of you getting a baby out of it. priorities....
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I did demand sex all the time. Hehe he said he felt used

Not upset about it but I doubt I will ever date a Aqua again
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and tally up what you pay when you're dating or going out with someone?

for example...

She is making me dinner, so í count that, and i will pay dinner tomorrow.

or...

he bought me this,
so I will do that tomorrow.

i mean do you COUNT what your SO is doing for you each time??

and then tally it up?


i'm just noticing this with some people.
I keep count.

Venus in capricorn
i thought it's because of your 7th house sun and venus?? and you have saturn and Jupiter in libra

that helps in the fairness department.
I have a 5th house sun.

Nope. All venus in cap
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still you have saturn libra and Jupiter libra....

you get your LUCK from fairness. 🙂

edit :

http://www.alwaysastrology.com/jupiter-in-libra.html

Jupiter in Libra finds the most luck when they are fair and treat others equally. Their natural graciousness and talents at promoting and mediating can often bring them many opportunities. They are intellectually adventurous and willing to learn. They are open minded and impartial. Because of this, they often are persuaded to change their minds through the arguments of others. They can also see all sides to an issue.

Jupiter in Libra does best in a team of two. They have a true gift for working one-on-one. They like things around them to be aesthetically pleasing. They can turn this into a career such as interior design, fashion or other artistic avenues. They are also good at entertaining, writing and public relations.

Libra Jupiter is idealistic, and they are attracted to those who share their views. Pairing up with people of like mind can enhance their opportunities and good fortune. They are very considerate of others and understand the element of compromise. They can be very persuasive. They have a strong sense of justice.



Jupiter in Libra loves people, and this will bring them much good fortune. Their natural diplomacy lets them interact with others and solve problems. If they can develop a strong sense of self, their luck grows stronger. This allows them to care less what others think of
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Forgot to add that he accuses me of only wanting a kid out of him. He might have a point. If I could get pregnant on my own I prob wouldn't date
jesus christ. that's a low blow of him.

when these guys get hurt they wanna lash out at the woman. Sounds irresponsible.

EDIT : It' s like, he IGNORES the baby's presence and only thinks of you getting a baby out of it. priorities....
I did demand sex all the time. Hehe he said he felt used

Not upset about it but I doubt I will ever date a Aqua again
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maybe someone else with aqua placements.

he sounds like he didnt get lessons from his father to be a good provider.
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I never do. I spend money when I care. Also my ex was pretty broke so it wasn't an issue. What was more telling was that when he did have money he never did the same. Something I don't want to repeat.
omg that is messed up.

he finally has a job and he didnt even be generous to you?

EDIT : he did take advantage of your kindness, generosity,

but i dont know the deeper issues since i dont know you both.... still that is not good. Good on you for not accepting that.
No underlining issues I was his caretaker in a way I guess. I never mentioned it and he never saw reason to change because of this. I never had any complaints about it until I became pregnant then it was unacceptable. My baby would need the money and food I would have given him. When he didn't change I took my baby and left. Clearly I should have moved on way sooner but then I wouldn't have my little one and that would be a shame. I guess in the end I got my moneys worth lol she is more then worth any money I spent and his family's antics


Now he's broke again I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't start selling the things I bought him.
you see, i dont believe in the man being the housewife, (i know that modern times have turned it around that men are the housewives and the woman is the caretaker, nurturer.) but i accept that these days, PLENTY of men are housewives. or houseman's. fine for them....but like in your case, you get pregnant and you need help and he's NOT there to even help you when it matters most.

and you even know he's going to sell the stuff you bought him. That's really bad.

your baby is the bright light indeed.
i'm very very OLD FASHIONED......for me, it's the man who is the provider and must take care of the family, and the woman is the traditional housewife, stay at home mother, and if she wants to work, fine, but know that her duties are at the home and family.
that's what makes me happy and appeals to me the most.

at least you lived and learn, SugaredSap.

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That's the thing though I also did the house work. I love cleaning and cooking so once again not an issue...yeah lol.All he did was play video games and..yeah it's pretty damning when thought about like that lol

I like to believe I'm old fashioned at heart but I wonder why I made the e
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