Why do people care about it? I've never understood the pride people have in their nationality, ancestry, race, local sports teams, etc. So if you're someone who cares about these things, please tell me why they matter to you. I'm curious.
Heritage
You'd need a working brain to comprehend the answers.
Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowPerfect, I've got one right here in my head! So what are the answers?
You'd need a working brain to comprehend the answers.
Posted by infiresI get the general idea, I'm curious what it means to you (or anyone else) specifically. As individuals.
people with similarities to one another flock together- it's a national pride and give a person a feeling of togetherness and collaboration to be apart of something greater
also individuality because it's what makes you, you
Better way to word it: What does your heritage mean to you?
Posted by gabriel4lifeVery true, but I want to know what people are thinking and feeling. Is it as simple as embracing tribalism = dopamine?
Because humans are natural tribalists
Posted by tiziani?
It's like when I tried L'Occitane shaving cream for the first time, and I knew I had to bury the fact I'd ever bought Gillette deep away, far away from the family history. I was never going back. Nouveau riche.
Posted by tizianiYet another thing I can't relate to. 😢
It's like when I tried L'Occitane shaving cream for the first time, and I knew I had to bury the fact I'd ever bought Gillette deep away, far away from the family history. I was never going back. Nouveau riche.
I haven't used shaving cream since I discovered I didn't have to use shaving cream.
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If you don't know anything about yourself anyone in this world can manipulate you into something you don't want to be.
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You build yourself.
I've never understood this either. My heritage didn't make me who I am today, nor will it affect my future. I am my own person, always will be.
Posted by andswhoThe Aries son has Downs Syndrome. He's a great kidPosted by LePetitFiskYou know ever since I helped that down syndrome kid/ man buy a Pepsi I felt I should do more for the handicappedPosted by andswhoYour avatar confused the hell out of me for a minute.Posted by tizianiRofl
It's like when I tried L'Occitane shaving cream for the first time, and I knew I had to bury the fact I'd ever bought Gillette deep away, far away from the family history. I was never going back. Nouveau riche.
"My father has always used l'occitane and so have I."
I am taking donations via gofundme for the kid in my avatar and his cleft palate surgery
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Posted by andswhoHe's 13 and is healthy as a horse. He has a mild case so we're hoping he will live a long and fulfilling lifePosted by SsupermanI felt sad when my mom told me they don't live past 30Posted by andswhoThe Aries son has Downs Syndrome. He's a great kidPosted by LePetitFiskYou know ever since I helped that down syndrome kid/ man buy a Pepsi I felt I should do more for the handicappedPosted by andswhoYour avatar confused the hell out of me for a minute.Posted by tizianiRofl
It's like when I tried L'Occitane shaving cream for the first time, and I knew I had to bury the fact I'd ever bought Gillette deep away, far away from the family history. I was never going back. Nouveau riche.
"My father has always used l'occitane and so have I."
I am taking donations via gofundme for the kid in my avatar and his cleft palate surgery
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Posted by andswhothey can, I have a niece that is probably like 50ishPosted by SsupermanI felt sad when my mom told me they don't live past 30Posted by andswhoThe Aries son has Downs Syndrome. He's a great kidPosted by LePetitFiskYou know ever since I helped that down syndrome kid/ man buy a Pepsi I felt I should do more for the handicappedPosted by andswhoYour avatar confused the hell out of me for a minute.Posted by tizianiRofl
It's like when I tried L'Occitane shaving cream for the first time, and I knew I had to bury the fact I'd ever bought Gillette deep away, far away from the family history. I was never going back. Nouveau riche.
"My father has always used l'occitane and so have I."
I am taking donations via gofundme for the kid in my avatar and his cleft palate surgery
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Posted by tiziani"That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."
It's like when I tried L'Occitane shaving cream for the first time, and I knew I had to bury the fact I'd ever bought Gillette deep away, far away from the family history. I was never going back. Nouveau riche.
Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnExactly in this world you have no friends, it's a cold world and you have to defend yourself in anyway possible. Protect your mind, your emotions and last but not least your physical health. This is just my opinion based on my experience.Posted by CheVirgo
If you don't know anything about yourself anyone in this world can manipulate you into something you don't want to be.
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You build yourself.
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I think there are "good people" out there, but I rely on myself too. What I meant is that I don't need a past to know who I am.
Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnPosted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnExactly in this world you have no friends, it's a cold world and you have to defend yourself in anyway possible. Protect your mind, your emotions and last but not least your physical health. This is just my opinion based on my experience.Posted by CheVirgo
If you don't know anything about yourself anyone in this world can manipulate you into something you don't want to be.
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You build yourself.
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I think there are "good people" out there, but I rely on myself too. What I meant is that I don't need a past to know who I am.
Well in what terms do you mean no past because everybody holds on to something from the past. No one individual just leave a past life completely alone.
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Heritage. It's cool to know but that doesn't really define me. We are the ones letting things define us.
Posted by MaxPowerPosted by BlackburnAre you white and/or part of the majority population? This is a typical response of white people who are not defined by their race by other people, so they see no need to bring it up.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnPosted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnExactly in this world you have no friends, it's a cold world and you have to defend yourself in anyway possible. Protect your mind, your emotions and last but not least your physical health. This is just my opinion based on my experience.Posted by CheVirgo
If you don't know anything about yourself anyone in this world can manipulate you into something you don't want to be.
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You build yourself.
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I think there are "good people" out there, but I rely on myself too. What I meant is that I don't need a past to know who I am.
Well in what terms do you mean no past because everybody holds on to something from the past. No one individual just leave a past life completely alone.
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Heritage. It's cool to know but that doesn't really define me. We are the ones letting things define us.
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It depends on your definition of "white" and "majority population". I'm white, not part of the majority population.
You are right, I'm not defined by my "race" as I live among people of my "race". I don't bring it up because is not a diferential factor.
Humans have a natural need to "belong" and part of that belonging means having something to belong to. Part of it also means uniting against and excluding other things/groups. Its unfortunately, our nature as animals. It comes from survival in primal times, when not belonging quite literally meant death from ostracizing by the pack.
Also, Maxpower is very right... when he says "White is considered "standard" in the US. Everything is viewed through a white lens. You don't see race as important, because you are part of the standard. If you were a big brown man, you'd learn very quickly how important race is to your everyday interactions, your ability to get a job, your safety, and everything else."
Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnI kind of see what you are saying but not really at the same time. I am a black male living in the South in America, My skin color defines me, I can't get certain jobs because of that and because of my name. If i don't have a white name I will get called twice as least for a job than a white person. A Native American Heritage defines him/her because most Native Americans live on reservations the same goes for blacks and hispanics that live in the so called projects in America.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnPosted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnExactly in this world you have no friends, it's a cold world and you have to defend yourself in anyway possible. Protect your mind, your emotions and last but not least your physical health. This is just my opinion based on my experience.Posted by CheVirgo
If you don't know anything about yourself anyone in this world can manipulate you into something you don't want to be.
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You build yourself.
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I think there are "good people" out there, but I rely on myself too. What I meant is that I don't need a past to know who I am.
Well in what terms do you mean no past because everybody holds on to something from the past. No one individual just leave a past life completely alone.
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Heritage. It's cool to know but that doesn't really define me. We are the ones letting things define us.
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You decide what defines you, but others decide what conditions you.
Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnLmao ok I see you can't answer the question with any facts but I see where you are coming from.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnI kind of see what you are saying but not really at the same time. I am a black male living in the South in America, My skin color defines me, I can't get certain jobs because of that and because of my name. If i don't have a white name I will get called twice as least for a job than a white person. A Native American Heritage defines him/her because most Native Americans live on reservations the same goes for blacks and hispanics that live in the so called projects in America.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnPosted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnExactly in this world you have no friends, it's a cold world and you have to defend yourself in anyway possible. Protect your mind, your emotions and last but not least your physical health. This is just my opinion based on my experience.Posted by CheVirgo
If you don't know anything about yourself anyone in this world can manipulate you into something you don't want to be.
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You build yourself.
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I think there are "good people" out there, but I rely on myself too. What I meant is that I don't need a past to know who I am.
Well in what terms do you mean no past because everybody holds on to something from the past. No one individual just leave a past life completely alone.
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Heritage. It's cool to know but that doesn't really define me. We are the ones letting things define us.
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You decide what defines you, but others decide what conditions you.
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What facts do you want? This is opinion area. I'm discussing about identification, you are discussing about racism, if you don't listen you won't get any points but yours.
Why am I proud of my Heritage? Simple, where my family came from, and what they endured to ensure I had a better life is something to be proud of.
Posted by MaxPowerPosted by BlackburnWhite is considered "standard" in the US. Everything is viewed through a white lens. You don't see race as important, because you are part of the standard. If you were a big brown man, you'd learn very quickly how important race is to your everyday interactions, your ability to get a job, your safety, and everything else.Posted by MaxPowerPosted by BlackburnAre you white and/or part of the majority population? This is a typical response of white people who are not defined by their race by other people, so they see no need to bring it up.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnPosted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnExactly in this world you have no friends, it's a cold world and you have to defend yourself in anyway possible. Protect your mind, your emotions and last but not least your physical health. This is just my opinion based on my experience.Posted by CheVirgo
If you don't know anything about yourself anyone in this world can manipulate you into something you don't want to be.
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You build yourself.
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I think there are "good people" out there, but I rely on myself too. What I meant is that I don't need a past to know who I am.
Well in what terms do you mean no past because everybody holds on to something from the past. No one individual just leave a past life completely alone.
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Heritage. It's cool to know but that doesn't really define me. We are the ones letting things define us.
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It depends on your definition of "white" and "majority population". I'm white, not part of the majority population.
You are right, I'm not defined by my "race" as I live among people of my "race". I don't bring it up because is not a diferential factor.
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In the USA I'm not part of the standard, and that would probably limit me. I'm not talking about racism, oppression is a fact and that leads communities to hold more onto their differences, traditions etc.
Posted by MaxPowerPosted by BlackburnYou can't always separate culture and race.Posted by MaxPowerPosted by BlackburnWhite is considered "standard" in the US. Everything is viewed through a white lens. You don't see race as important, because you are part of the standard. If you were a big brown man, you'd learn very quickly how important race is to your everyday interactions, your ability to get a job, your safety, and everything else.Posted by MaxPowerPosted by BlackburnAre you white and/or part of the majority population? This is a typical response of white people who are not defined by their race by other people, so they see no need to bring it up.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnPosted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnExactly in this world you have no friends, it's a cold world and you have to defend yourself in anyway possible. Protect your mind, your emotions and last but not least your physical health. This is just my opinion based on my experience.Posted by CheVirgo
If you don't know anything about yourself anyone in this world can manipulate you into something you don't want to be.
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You build yourself.
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I think there are "good people" out there, but I rely on myself too. What I meant is that I don't need a past to know who I am.
Well in what terms do you mean no past because everybody holds on to something from the past. No one individual just leave a past life completely alone.
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Heritage. It's cool to know but that doesn't really define me. We are the ones letting things define us.
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It depends on your definition of "white" and "majority population". I'm white, not part of the majority population.
You are right, I'm not defined by my "race" as I live among people of my "race". I don't bring it up because is not a diferential factor.
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In the USA I'm not part of the standard, and that would probably limit me. I'm not talking about racism, oppression is a fact and that leads communities to hold more onto their differences, traditions etc.
And it sounds to me like you would like for everyone to assimilate to your standard so you can feel comfortable. What you're calling "holding onto" differences and traditions I call having a cultural identity.click to expand
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Race doesn't exist, you refer to skin color. In fact, I sound more flexible than people who see others just by their color, religion and ancestry.You can do whatever you want, I've never defined myself by my skin color and I don't cosider it important.
Okay, you call it that way, and I respect it. You want to read disrespect in every word of mine when I'm just trying to put it in the coldest way to avoid connotations.
Posted by MaxPowerPosted by BlackburnRace is a social construct, but it does exist. You don't sound flexible at all. Guess who gets to determine that? The people listening to you, not you.Posted by MaxPowerPosted by BlackburnYou can't always separate culture and race.Posted by MaxPowerPosted by BlackburnWhite is considered "standard" in the US. Everything is viewed through a white lens. You don't see race as important, because you are part of the standard. If you were a big brown man, you'd learn very quickly how important race is to your everyday interactions, your ability to get a job, your safety, and everything else.Posted by MaxPowerPosted by BlackburnAre you white and/or part of the majority population? This is a typical response of white people who are not defined by their race by other people, so they see no need to bring it up.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnPosted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnExactly in this world you have no friends, it's a cold world and you have to defend yourself in anyway possible. Protect your mind, your emotions and last but not least your physical health. This is just my opinion based on my experience.Posted by CheVirgo
If you don't know anything about yourself anyone in this world can manipulate you into something you don't want to be.
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You build yourself.
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I think there are "good people" out there, but I rely on myself too. What I meant is that I don't need a past to know who I am.
Well in what terms do you mean no past because everybody holds on to something from the past. No one individual just leave a past life completely alone.
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Heritage. It's cool to know but that doesn't really define me. We are the ones letting things define us.
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It depends on your definition of "white" and "majority population". I'm white, not part of the majority population.
You are right, I'm not defined by my "race" as I live among people of my "race". I don't bring it up because is not a diferential factor.
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In the USA I'm not part of the standard, and that would probably limit me. I'm not talking about racism, oppression is a fact and that leads communities to hold more onto their differences, traditions etc.
And it sounds to me like you would like for everyone to assimilate to your standard so you can feel comfortable. What you're calling "holding onto" differences and traditions I call having a cultural identity.
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Race doesn't exist, you refer to skin color. In fact, I sound more flexible than people who see others just by their color, religion and ancestry.You can do whatever you want, I've never defined myself by my skin color and I don't cosider it important.
Okay, you call it that way, and I respect it. You want to read disrespect in every word of mine when I'm just trying to put it in the coldest way to avoid connotations.
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Okay, as a social construct. Have you heard about projection? We all perceive things in a subjective manner.
Posted by BlackburnExactlyPosted by MaxPowerPosted by BlackburnRace is a social construct, but it does exist. You don't sound flexible at all. Guess who gets to determine that? The people listening to you, not you.Posted by MaxPowerPosted by BlackburnYou can't always separate culture and race.Posted by MaxPowerPosted by BlackburnWhite is considered "standard" in the US. Everything is viewed through a white lens. You don't see race as important, because you are part of the standard. If you were a big brown man, you'd learn very quickly how important race is to your everyday interactions, your ability to get a job, your safety, and everything else.Posted by MaxPowerPosted by BlackburnAre you white and/or part of the majority population? This is a typical response of white people who are not defined by their race by other people, so they see no need to bring it up.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnPosted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnExactly in this world you have no friends, it's a cold world and you have to defend yourself in anyway possible. Protect your mind, your emotions and last but not least your physical health. This is just my opinion based on my experience.Posted by CheVirgo
If you don't know anything about yourself anyone in this world can manipulate you into something you don't want to be.
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You build yourself.
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I think there are "good people" out there, but I rely on myself too. What I meant is that I don't need a past to know who I am.
Well in what terms do you mean no past because everybody holds on to something from the past. No one individual just leave a past life completely alone.
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Heritage. It's cool to know but that doesn't really define me. We are the ones letting things define us.
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It depends on your definition of "white" and "majority population". I'm white, not part of the majority population.
You are right, I'm not defined by my "race" as I live among people of my "race". I don't bring it up because is not a diferential factor.
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In the USA I'm not part of the standard, and that would probably limit me. I'm not talking about racism, oppression is a fact and that leads communities to hold more onto their differences, traditions etc.
And it sounds to me like you would like for everyone to assimilate to your standard so you can feel comfortable. What you're calling "holding onto" differences and traditions I call having a cultural identity.
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Race doesn't exist, you refer to skin color. In fact, I sound more flexible than people who see others just by their color, religion and ancestry.You can do whatever you want, I've never defined myself by my skin color and I don't cosider it important.
Okay, you call it that way, and I respect it. You want to read disrespect in every word of mine when I'm just trying to put it in the coldest way to avoid connotations.
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Okay, as a social construct. Have you heard about projection? We all perceive things in a subjective manner.
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Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnLol I asked what defines you then, you never gave answer. Race does define people regardless if you agree or not, religion defines people wether you like it or not. Other terms of Self Identity comes from Being a gamer, A musician etc. Once again my brother I'm not being racist I am asking a question. What defines you then?Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnLmao ok I see you can't answer the question with any facts but I see where you are coming from.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnI kind of see what you are saying but not really at the same time. I am a black male living in the South in America, My skin color defines me, I can't get certain jobs because of that and because of my name. If i don't have a white name I will get called twice as least for a job than a white person. A Native American Heritage defines him/her because most Native Americans live on reservations the same goes for blacks and hispanics that live in the so called projects in America.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnPosted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnExactly in this world you have no friends, it's a cold world and you have to defend yourself in anyway possible. Protect your mind, your emotions and last but not least your physical health. This is just my opinion based on my experience.Posted by CheVirgo
If you don't know anything about yourself anyone in this world can manipulate you into something you don't want to be.
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You build yourself.
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I think there are "good people" out there, but I rely on myself too. What I meant is that I don't need a past to know who I am.
Well in what terms do you mean no past because everybody holds on to something from the past. No one individual just leave a past life completely alone.
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Heritage. It's cool to know but that doesn't really define me. We are the ones letting things define us.
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You decide what defines you, but others decide what conditions you.
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What facts do you want? This is opinion area. I'm discussing about identification, you are discussing about racism, if you don't listen you won't get any points but yours.
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You never asked that.
In the place I come from nobody defines themselves by religion and skin color as isn't a differential factor, so, it doesn't define all people. You highlight race as for you is important in a negative way, if it didn't affect you much you wouldn't pay attention.
If you want a full definition of yourself you should start with taxonomy, I was talking about heritage and why some people don't feel it strongly.
I define myself by my personality.
Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowOMG! I had lived to see your post that doesn't mention gorgeous body of
You'd need a working brain to comprehend the answers.
certain boy...—?
Posted by cornmaizesharkI don't care about above mentioned as you are - however I love my city and when our teams are in playoffs - I am enjoying watching people who are so excited and happy and it's just gives me joy for some reason! No, I don't watch sport...lolPosted by infiresI get the general idea, I'm curious what it means to you (or anyone else) specifically. As individuals.
people with similarities to one another flock together- it's a national pride and give a person a feeling of togetherness and collaboration to be apart of something greater
also individuality because it's what makes you, you
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Posted by CheVirgoPosted by Blackburnlol ok I'm sorry I thought Culture and Heritage are two sides of the same coin. Once again your past define you even if you are talking about your personality. You were not born with the Identity or personality you have today, Past events helped shaped and mold you to the person who I am debating this very second. Our past defines us regardless of how you want to view it.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnLol I asked what defines you then, you never gave answer. Race does define people regardless if you agree or not, religion defines people wether you like it or not. Other terms of Self Identity comes from Being a gamer, A musician etc. Once again my brother I'm not being racist I am asking a question. What defines you then?Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnLmao ok I see you can't answer the question with any facts but I see where you are coming from.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnI kind of see what you are saying but not really at the same time. I am a black male living in the South in America, My skin color defines me, I can't get certain jobs because of that and because of my name. If i don't have a white name I will get called twice as least for a job than a white person. A Native American Heritage defines him/her because most Native Americans live on reservations the same goes for blacks and hispanics that live in the so called projects in America.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnPosted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnExactly in this world you have no friends, it's a cold world and you have to defend yourself in anyway possible. Protect your mind, your emotions and last but not least your physical health. This is just my opinion based on my experience.Posted by CheVirgo
If you don't know anything about yourself anyone in this world can manipulate you into something you don't want to be.
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You build yourself.
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I think there are "good people" out there, but I rely on myself too. What I meant is that I don't need a past to know who I am.
Well in what terms do you mean no past because everybody holds on to something from the past. No one individual just leave a past life completely alone.
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Heritage. It's cool to know but that doesn't really define me. We are the ones letting things define us.
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You decide what defines you, but others decide what conditions you.
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What facts do you want? This is opinion area. I'm discussing about identification, you are discussing about racism, if you don't listen you won't get any points but yours.
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You never asked that.
In the place I come from nobody defines themselves by religion and skin color as isn't a differential factor, so, it doesn't define all people. You highlight race as for you is important in a negative way, if it didn't affect you much you wouldn't pay attention.
If you want a full definition of yourself you should start with taxonomy, I was talking about heritage and why some people don't feel it strongly.
I define myself by my personality.
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Yes, I think they are but for example for me race doesn't come on that pack (culture/heritage).
Yeah, you are right on that, we evolve from a point.
Posted by MaxPowerPosted by BlackburnGetting to pick and choose which things you will care about is what privilege is all about. I don't get that luxury. When someone calls me wetback or nigger, it's not because of my culture.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by Blackburnlol ok I'm sorry I thought Culture and Heritage are two sides of the same coin. Once again your past define you even if you are talking about your personality. You were not born with the Identity or personality you have today, Past events helped shaped and mold you to the person who I am debating this very second. Our past defines us regardless of how you want to view it.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnLol I asked what defines you then, you never gave answer. Race does define people regardless if you agree or not, religion defines people wether you like it or not. Other terms of Self Identity comes from Being a gamer, A musician etc. Once again my brother I'm not being racist I am asking a question. What defines you then?Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnLmao ok I see you can't answer the question with any facts but I see where you are coming from.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnI kind of see what you are saying but not really at the same time. I am a black male living in the South in America, My skin color defines me, I can't get certain jobs because of that and because of my name. If i don't have a white name I will get called twice as least for a job than a white person. A Native American Heritage defines him/her because most Native Americans live on reservations the same goes for blacks and hispanics that live in the so called projects in America.Posted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnPosted by CheVirgoPosted by BlackburnExactly in this world you have no friends, it's a cold world and you have to defend yourself in anyway possible. Protect your mind, your emotions and last but not least your physical health. This is just my opinion based on my experience.Posted by CheVirgo
If you don't know anything about yourself anyone in this world can manipulate you into something you don't want to be.
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You build yourself.
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I think there are "good people" out there, but I rely on myself too. What I meant is that I don't need a past to know who I am.
Well in what terms do you mean no past because everybody holds on to something from the past. No one individual just leave a past life completely alone.
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Heritage. It's cool to know but that doesn't really define me. We are the ones letting things define us.
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You decide what defines you, but others decide what conditions you.
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What facts do you want? This is opinion area. I'm discussing about identification, you are discussing about racism, if you don't listen you won't get any points but yours.
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You never asked that.
In the place I come from nobody defines themselves by religion and skin color as isn't a differential factor, so, it doesn't define all people. You highlight race as for you is important in a negative way, if it didn't affect you much you wouldn't pay attention.
If you want a full definition of yourself you should start with taxonomy, I was talking about heritage and why some people don't feel it strongly.
I define myself by my personality.
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Yes, I think they are but for example for me race doesn't come on that pack (culture/heritage).
Yeah, you are right on that, we evolve from a point.
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Is a consequence of living in a place of certain homogeneity. You don't know anything about me or my race to talk about it. You are not the only one suffering oppression. I wouldn't call you that, as I don't care about race, cultural identification can result in discrimination.
I talked about how racism is a factor in the identification with race, you said is cultural identity, now you say is all because of racism. Is you who have some dissonances, truly, read your comments, I have my opinion and I respect yours, respect mine.
I've never experienced this as much as in the US, but in a sense it guess it makes sense considering how this nation came to be. But it can be a tad annoying.
Posted by SomeSortOfMermaidI kind of envy that balance. Very zen.
To me, heritage is important but not to the point I'd say it defines me altogether.
It's a part of my history, where I've originated from, it's part of my DNA. That's the part I care about. It'll always be a piece of me. I think there's no harm in being proud of where you come from, as long as you can stay objective about the pros and cons.
But at the same time, everyone is an individual. Letting your heritage define you seems like selling yourself short to me.
Both those visions coexist in me quite peacefully, even though it might seem contradictory.
Posted by LePetitFiskTrue, but what do you gain from connecting with dead people? I inherited a journal from my great-great grandfather and he wrote how at the end of his life cars became a thing and he loved to drive. I love to drive.
Its easier to connect and relate to each other when you already have a few things in common. Not everyone find tension exciting. Only idiot Scorpio moons do that shit
But I couldn't give less of a shit about the guy and what we had in common.
Posted by MaxPowerThat's an interesting insight.
I've noticed that the more someone's heritage has been shit upon (or the more they think it has been shit upon) the more "pride" they take in it. It's a response to being ignored or mistreated, as a group.
People who are part of the majority population and take pride tend to be very uneducated and unquestioning of how they got to be "on top."
Posted by cornmaizesharkDo you also shave against the grain?Posted by tizianiYet another thing I can't relate to. 😢
It's like when I tried L'Occitane shaving cream for the first time, and I knew I had to bury the fact I'd ever bought Gillette deep away, far away from the family history. I was never going back. Nouveau riche.
I haven't used shaving cream since I discovered I didn't have to use shaving cream.click to expand
Posted by TaniwhaWell I was reading the topic about taking down the confederate statues and the many points that were made for and against it. I found myself nodding my head to things both side said and understanding where they were coming from.
Why do you wan't to know? if I tell you then are you going to use my answers in your emotional programming? Robot.
Then I realized that while points were all valid, I could relate to the need to make them. I would be pissed off if a statue of myself was torn down and I'd probably rain Hell upon the human race. But if it was my ancestor? I wouldn't really care. And if it was an oppressor of an ancestor? I wouldn't. And that doesn't mean I would want that to stay up. That means I wouldn't even notice a difference if they were or weren't. And I've always been like that; never felt school pride, hometown pride, national pride, etc. etc.
tldr: yes, my bios needs an update for 2017
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by cornmaizesharkDo you also shave against the grain?Posted by tizianiYet another thing I can't relate to. 😢
It's like when I tried L'Occitane shaving cream for the first time, and I knew I had to bury the fact I'd ever bought Gillette deep away, far away from the family history. I was never going back. Nouveau riche.
I haven't used shaving cream since I discovered I didn't have to use shaving cream.click to expand
With it or against it depending on what part of my face/throat/neck I'm shaving and how close I want the shave to be.
Posted by EnochtheWiseWow dude, thanks for the well thought out and informative post. Enjoyed reading it.
Its an interesting topic, and definitely something that's hard to relate to for Westerners. Strong ties to and beliefs about importance of heritage are not limited to, but tend to be more common in, people who live in or are from collectivist societies where the family/tribe/in-group is considered more important than the individual. In cross-cultural anthropology, areas of the world that are still strongly collectivist are actually seen as fostering a different kind of consciousness where the self is primarily viewed, not in terms of one's own introspection, but how one is esteemed by the in-group (referred to as "dyadic personality"), and this definitely does tie into the necessity for group-oriented survival in pre-industrial societies as gabriel alluded to. Self-consciousness is other-oriented and externalized to a degree.
One can be in a state of honor or shame, simply due to how the group sees them, or one can bring honor or shame on the group by their own actions, which impacts everyone in it. Ties to family are not just stronger, and vital, but ties to distant ancestors as well. The in-group is a sort of trans-historical entity where one can be honored by or shamed by one's ancestors throughout time, and the converse of that is also often true; one can bring honor or shame to one's ancestors. Parenting is usually more authoritarian, producing strong conformity. In strong collectivist societies, particularly in the pan-Mediterranean, children will carry on the grudges and prejudices towards other groups that are embedded in them by their parents. Carrying their vendettas/grudges are actually ways of honoring their ancestors and affirming the solidarity. Further, other people are held accountable, not just for their actions as individuals, but the actions of the groups that they are embedded in, and the actions of their group's ancestors.
You can see how this applies to conflicts in the Middle East and even the mentality of some people who post on this forum. CC is a great example actually. More traditionalist African countries/cultures tend to be collectivist. She's sort of in between worlds given her background. She sees modern white individuals as responsible for the crimes of their ancestors. What a certain group of people of one "race" did, not necessarily to her even, but to her "people" throughout time, is not just attributed to those individuals as some historical contingency. There is a fixed collective trans-historical entity called "the white man" who has to atone for crimes still. Modern Westerners see this as foolishness of course, as they have no knowledge of or ties to their heritage in this manner, and see themselves as not having committed such crimes, and therefore not morally responsible for them. The truth is, and this is very commonly said among anthropologists, that the collectivist mindset does tend to be more prone to use of stereotypes, for obvious reasons.
Clashes like this expose an irreducible degree of cultural relativism when it comes to ethics. As foreign as some of these concepts seem at first, most westerners who study collectivist culture actually come away, not just with a better understanding of how these values make better sense than individualist values *within* collectivist cultures, but that there are certain truths about human nature and responsibility in any culture, that collectivism does actually capture better. The concept of corporate responsibility for instance is actually big topic in philosophy of ethics right now in the West, due to crimes committed by large corporations and legality/ethics around imposing fines/penalties.
Posted by GemitatiI can see your green eyes all the way from the southern hemisphere.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowOMG! I had lived to see your post that doesn't mention gorgeous body of
You'd need a working brain to comprehend the answers.
certain boy...—?click to expand
PS: why mention it when I show it every day?
Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowIt's grey with black circle and yellow crap that is like...non descript...Posted by GemitatiI can see your green eyes all the way from the southern hemisphere.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowOMG! I had lived to see your post that doesn't mention gorgeous body of
You'd need a working brain to comprehend the answers.
certain boy...—?
PS: why mention it when I show it every day?click to expand
However you are not a guru on women eyes. Maybe try men asses...
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Posted by GemitatiPosted by HeavyEntertainmentShowIt's grey with black circle and yellow crap that is like...non descript...Posted by GemitatiI can see your green eyes all the way from the southern hemisphere.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowOMG! I had lived to see your post that doesn't mention gorgeous body of
You'd need a working brain to comprehend the answers.
certain boy...—?
PS: why mention it when I show it every day?
However you are not a guru on women eyes. Maybe try men asses...
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Like that one?
Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowI can't believe you can see it as a cute boy ass?Posted by GemitatiPosted by HeavyEntertainmentShowIt's grey with black circle and yellow crap that is like...non descript...Posted by GemitatiI can see your green eyes all the way from the southern hemisphere.Posted by HeavyEntertainmentShowOMG! I had lived to see your post that doesn't mention gorgeous body of
You'd need a working brain to comprehend the answers.
certain boy...—?
PS: why mention it when I show it every day?
However you are not a guru on women eyes. Maybe try men asses...
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Like that one?click to expand
So you do enjoy fat women asses with writing on them? Fess up homo!
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