
MyStarsShine
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Posted by UnicornSagHaahaa wise red haired Aries Miranda ... she got it in one ☝🏾Posted by WittyGem88v2That's why I said Sex and the City lol there was that scene where 2 women are discussing about why guy isn't calling one of them and Miranda overheard them and came by to say exactly that-he's just not that into you. As she leaves they start like "that bitch, don't listen to her..." lol click to expandPosted by UnicornSagPosted by WittyGem88v2Posted by UnicornSagPosted by WittyGem88v2Posted by UnicornSag
I remember this sentence from Sex and the City
But yeah, that's pretty much true and easy to understand. No men are too busy for woman they want. It' that simple. If he leaves you hanging on, he's not that into you. If he doesn't respond, he's not that into you. If he's on and off again, he' not that into you...and so on and on for all those random scenarios girls come asking here about. There's no explanation for it in : "oh, he's Cap, that's typical for them, he's probably busy with work", or "he's Pisces, they're too sensitive, you might have hurt his feelings", or "he's Cancer, they disappear all the time" etc...whatever explanation women find for those behaviors it's just not true and they're fooling themselves...
Who wants you will make time for you.
Or, hes an aqua. Hes supposed to be distant and takes ages to respond coz aquas dont like texting but they like stalking. click to expand
yes, one of those lol it annoys me that people look for explanations for behavior in zodiac instead of looking into behavior itself click to expand
Exactly. I mentioned it several times on here and well some women take it against me hence the negative comments I get sometimes lol but, it is the truth. A man is a man no matter the month he was born in. Lol they will go after wimen they want to be with. By any means. And if hes not doing that its not because he doesnt know if a woman likes him. Or that he is scared of the woman. He’s just not that into the woman. Clear as day. click to expand
People can't face the truth, that's the main problem. It takes some guts to understand it that way. Explaining behaviors by months of someone's birth or other parts in chart doesn't mean much, Yeah we may understand why they do things they do but none of that explains lack of inteest click to expand
I got bashed so many times for being honest about it hahaha! Im just like fuck it. Fail if you must. Do the same shit over and over coz you dunno how to listen when someone is giving you a real advice lol click to expandclick to expand


Posted by UnicornSagFriends tell you the truth, girl. My Aries rising up likes that too 👍Posted by MyStarsShineTypical Aries, completely blunt and direct lol but many people can't handle that lol I prefer that however, than fake sweet words lol click to expandPosted by UnicornSagPosted by WittyGem88v2Posted by UnicornSagPosted by WittyGem88v2Posted by UnicornSagPosted by WittyGem88v2Posted by UnicornSag
I remember this sentence from Sex and the City
But yeah, that's pretty much true and easy to understand. No men are too busy for woman they want. It' that simple. If he leaves you hanging on, he's not that into you. If he doesn't respond, he's not that into you. If he's on and off again, he' not that into you...and so on and on for all those random scenarios girls come asking here about. There's no explanation for it in : "oh, he's Cap, that's typical for them, he's probably busy with work", or "he's Pisces, they're too sensitive, you might have hurt his feelings", or "he's Cancer, they disappear all the time" etc...whatever explanation women find for those behaviors it's just not true and they're fooling themselves...
Who wants you will make time for you.
Or, hes an aqua. Hes supposed to be distant and takes ages to respond coz aquas dont like texting but they like stalking. click to expand
yes, one of those lol it annoys me that people look for explanations for behavior in zodiac instead of looking into behavior itself click to expand
Exactly. I mentioned it several times on here and well some women take it against me hence the negative comments I get sometimes lol but, it is the truth. A man is a man no matter the month he was born in. Lol they will go after wimen they want to be with. By any means. And if hes not doing that its not because he doesnt know if a woman likes him. Or that he is scared of the woman. He’s just not that into the woman. Clear as day. click to expand
People can't face the truth, that's the main problem. It takes some guts to understand it that way. Explaining behaviors by months of someone's birth or other parts in chart doesn't mean much, Yeah we may understand why they do things they do but none of that explains lack of inteest click to expand
I got bashed so many times for being honest about it hahaha! Im just like fuck it. Fail if you must. Do the same shit over and over coz you dunno how to listen when someone is giving you a real advice lol click to expand
That's why I said Sex and the City lol there was that scene where 2 women are discussing about why guy isn't calling one of them and Miranda overheard them and came by to say exactly that-he's just not that into you. As she leaves they start like "that bitch, don't listen to her..." lol click to expand
Haahaa wise red haired Aries Miranda ... she got it in one ☝🏾 click to expandclick to expand

Posted by Lioness18881+1
🤷 some people like trying and sometimes it's worth trying for. They'll eventually figure it out and move on. I think deep down, they already know the answer to their question most of the time. Sometimes they just need kindess or empathy or to vent because they're hurting. And sometimes it just takes them a long time to grieve and let go. Everyone recovers from loss or heartbreak at their own pace and in their own way. Not everyone is comfortable burdening people they know, so they come here, naive and optimistic only to be judged and criticised, put down and crucified just for having feelings and being sad.


Posted by besarlalluviaReally, EVERY relationship thread. Then I invite you to quote one (1) instance where I have. Should be easy for you right?Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by besarlalluviaPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by besarlalluviaPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by besarlalluvia
why is it seen as stupid and weak for a woman to attach herself to one man, but a man must have eyes only for her and chase her to the heavens?
if u wanna be an independent woman with her eggs in several baskets u gotta let the man do that as well... take your standards and eat them
It’s more to do with timeing. You have some men and some women whom after only a few dates want to be all up the persons ass...catching feelings...wanting commitment...etc.
It comes off as desperate. Really desperate.
Like you could be anyone it wouldn’t even matter, they are just so determined to be in a relationship they don’t care about getting to know what your about.
That’s why you should date other people until you establish something significant with some one and MUTUALLY agree to be exclusive.
And FYI dating doesn’t always mean treetrunking. I played the field a lot but am super picky when it comes to sharing my body. I’ll share a meal and convo tho... click to expand
sooo... just keep dating till you find someone who is desperate for u instead? then you can act uninterested to that person LOL.
imo if the man u want doesn’t reciprocate then learn to be independent.. not hunt a replacement. otherwise what u liked about that man is bs lol click to expand
No. No one is replacing anything because what is there to replace?
Point is don’t emotionally, mentally and physically invest yourself in someone whose not invested in you.
Don’t give all your time and loyalty to someone who isn’t doing the same for you.
Be open to meeting new people, dating them, and seeing if there is chemistry there and, more importantly, same end game goals.
Not just talking out my ass here. Was dating others when I started dating my bae. Thank god I was too. The contrast actually had me looking at him with new eyes. click to expand
ok. if you wanna date two ppl at once do u. but u go around on here telling all these women to dump and stop being weak, stop being in love with one man. u live ur own truth, don’t preach it to others. cos i would be hurt if a man was dating another woman alongside me. i’d be wondering why the treetrunk he’s wasting my time. but then again, i don’t go dating. treetrunk all that ritual butter. click to expand
Lol so just so I got this right...I shouldn’t go around giving my opinion but you can. Even though you don’t even date. K.
Btw never said to stop being weak, your the one using that word. Never advised anyone to dump anyone either. Check your projection. Not a cute look. click to expand
you do it in everyone’s relationship thread
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Posted by MetatronNo were not. Certain things just don’t change. Men are hunters. The women who chase or meet men halfway have low quality relationships I can guarantee it. Men don’t like anything too easy and even when in a relationship he still needs to feel that he may lose you to keep the effort up.Posted by MyStarsShine
if he wants you...he will move mountains to be with you.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10412.He_s_Just_Not_That_Into_You
was your experience pre-Tinder though?
seems like we're headed more towards gender-equality and/or irrelevance and equal levels of effort expected from both parties...
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Posted by MetatronStop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world. And not everyone uses Tinder. Most people I know don’t.Posted by WittyGem88v2Posted by MetatronPosted by MyStarsShine
if he wants you...he will move mountains to be with you.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10412.He_s_Just_Not_That_Into_You
was your experience pre-Tinder though?
seems like we're headed more towards gender-equality and/or irrelevance and equal levels of effort expected from both parties...
click to expand
I met my man on tinder. Its the same. He flew to see me and we have been in a committed rs for 7 mos now. So I dont think because 2 people met on Tinder, the effort is off the table. click to expand
I agree, but I do think in general people have more options for dating nowadays with all the apps/social networking, so do tend to put in less effort though....or maybe just have less patience to work through things... click to expandclick to expand

Posted by Lioness18881No no no. We’ve all been hurt and rejected in life. It’s only pathetic when you don’t get it. Mistakes happen and people need to learn so I don’t fault anyone for trying. But at some point it becomes clear. I think with age and experience. You will know 💯Posted by greengemini_Posted by Lioness18881Posted by YodiPosted by Lioness18881
🤷 some people like trying and sometimes it's worth trying for. They'll eventually figure it out and move on. I think deep down, they already know the answer to their question most of the time. Sometimes they just need kindess or empathy or to vent because they're hurting. And sometimes it just takes them a long time to grieve and let go. Everyone recovers from loss or heartbreak at their own pace and in their own way. Not everyone is comfortable burdening people they know, so they come here, naive and optimistic only to be judged and criticised, put down and crucified just for having feelings and being sad.
+1
This is my number one issue with this forum.. I understand that old heads be on high alert for trolls but damn!.. the way some users go in on a heartbroken newbie is so disheartening. click to expand
I agree. I think the delivery hurts more than the truth. It's really bitter and spiteful. click to expand
Who did that? click to expand
Lots of people across most forums. Even comments in this topic, is putting down people who have been hurt or rejected like they're pathetic. It's so bitter and nasty. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by WittyGem88v2My problem is when I leave, I really leave. I can get mad and not talk to you for months at a time and then come back like nothings happened. I cut all contact until I get over it. I've done this twice to him so far. I can't help myself 😢 I know he won't reach out and I don't care, until I start missing him. Then I just expect things to go back to the way they were.Posted by saggurl88
I'll wait while I'm dating. That person will always be stuck in my heart and mind, just pushed to the side until I find someone more interesting. It's hard for me though, cause Im extremley picky. I need a connection when we first meet and you wouldn't believe how hard that is to come by. So I date and waste other peoples time until the one I want comes around. It's always the person who you want, that you can't have.
My problem is I come and go and am not very consistent at all. But I still want the guy to accept me back when I do come back lol. I'm a big headache for men that I like.
I am the same as far as wanting one person to accept me back after i take on my journey lol i found that in aquas. Many signs thought I was playing them. Or that i was immature. But i have a personality that loves being free to do things. Not bad things but just things i wanna do as a person. After sometime, only aquas are there to take me back. And thats why i always stick with them hahaha current one is the same. He lets me do things and accomplish things on my own. And he never complains. I wanna study, hes like ok. I wanna move to singapore hes like ok we can make this work. Its hard to find but once you do, its gonna feel really special. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by bkbella86eh....didn't say everyone uses Tinder...just was using it as one example, then said "apps" (plural) and "social media" in the last comment you're responding to. also didn't say effort wasn't there, just that its been my experience that people put in less and have less patience, when they have so many options on the table....thats been my experience in my social circle...."lies and propaganda" is a bit extreme, when all you're doing is referencing your own experience as well....Posted by MetatronPosted by WittyGem88v2Posted by MetatronPosted by MyStarsShine
if he wants you...he will move mountains to be with you.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10412.He_s_Just_Not_That_Into_You
was your experience pre-Tinder though?
seems like we're headed more towards gender-equality and/or irrelevance and equal levels of effort expected from both parties...
click to expand
I met my man on tinder. Its the same. He flew to see me and we have been in a committed rs for 7 mos now. So I dont think because 2 people met on Tinder, the effort is off the table. click to expand
I agree, but I do think in general people have more options for dating nowadays with all the apps/social networking, so do tend to put in less effort though....or maybe just have less patience to work through things... click to expand
Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world. And not everyone uses Tinder. Most people I know don’t. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by bkbella86we're not moving towards gender-equality? probably a few sociologists who would disagree with you, but they don't offer their personal "guarantee" along with their theories, so maybe its just more lies and propaganda....Posted by MetatronPosted by MyStarsShine
if he wants you...he will move mountains to be with you.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10412.He_s_Just_Not_That_Into_You
was your experience pre-Tinder though?
seems like we're headed more towards gender-equality and/or irrelevance and equal levels of effort expected from both parties...
click to expand
No were not. Certain things just don’t change. Men are hunters. The women who chase or meet men halfway have low quality relationships I can guarantee it. Men don’t like anything too easy and even when in a relationship he still needs to feel that he may lose you to keep the effort up. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by WittyGem88v2I know him already, I know he will unblock me in a week or two just to see if I will call. My problem is timing. Sometimes it goes so fast and I end up forgetting or saying fuck it and I don't do what I know I'm supposed to do.Posted by saggurl88Posted by WittyGem88v2Posted by saggurl88
I'll wait while I'm dating. That person will always be stuck in my heart and mind, just pushed to the side until I find someone more interesting. It's hard for me though, cause Im extremley picky. I need a connection when we first meet and you wouldn't believe how hard that is to come by. So I date and waste other peoples time until the one I want comes around. It's always the person who you want, that you can't have.
My problem is I come and go and am not very consistent at all. But I still want the guy to accept me back when I do come back lol. I'm a big headache for men that I like.
I am the same as far as wanting one person to accept me back after i take on my journey lol i found that in aquas. Many signs thought I was playing them. Or that i was immature. But i have a personality that loves being free to do things. Not bad things but just things i wanna do as a person. After sometime, only aquas are there to take me back. And thats why i always stick with them hahaha current one is the same. He lets me do things and accomplish things on my own. And he never complains. I wanna study, hes like ok. I wanna move to singapore hes like ok we can make this work. Its hard to find but once you do, its gonna feel really special. click to expand
My problem is when I leave, I really leave. I can get mad and not talk to you for months at a time and then come back like nothings happened. I cut all contact until I get over it. I've done this twice to him so far. I can't help myself I know he won't reach out and I don't care, until I start missing him. Then I just expect things to go back to the way they were.
So far he hasn't blocked me after I messaged him on FB. I've never messaged him there, and we aren't even friends on social media, so now I will just wait and see. #fingers crossed that third times a charm. lol
I'm learning everyday. click to expand
Give yourself time to grow and learn. And at the same time, maybe, just maybe.. this one’s not for you. Because one of you will adjust to meet halfway or he will wait for you if he is the right man for you. Like you can do all the wrong things and he will still be there. I heard of several marriages who started out like that and one or the other really made it work. So its definitely possible to find someone willing to match you. click to expandclick to expand
Posted by greengemini_there are people here w/ mental illnesses? well then we're just gonna help them/fix them/heal them aren't we?Posted by Lioness18881Posted by greengemini_Posted by Lioness18881Posted by YodiPosted by Lioness18881
🤷 some people like trying and sometimes it's worth trying for. They'll eventually figure it out and move on. I think deep down, they already know the answer to their question most of the time. Sometimes they just need kindess or empathy or to vent because they're hurting. And sometimes it just takes them a long time to grieve and let go. Everyone recovers from loss or heartbreak at their own pace and in their own way. Not everyone is comfortable burdening people they know, so they come here, naive and optimistic only to be judged and criticised, put down and crucified just for having feelings and being sad.
+1
This is my number one issue with this forum.. I understand that old heads be on high alert for trolls but damn!.. the way some users go in on a heartbroken newbie is so disheartening. click to expand
I agree. I think the delivery hurts more than the truth. It's really bitter and spiteful. click to expand
Who did that? click to expand
Lots of people across most forums. Even comments in this topic, is putting down people who have been hurt or rejected like they're pathetic. It's so bitter and nasty. click to expand
I hear ya. Unfortunately it's the nature of the site. There's a lot of depressed and unhappy people here.
You can spot the ones with legit mental illnesses if you know what to look for. Since we don't have anyone guiding the community, things will unfortunately turn to the negative because...we are humans ...and imperfect.
I've learned to accept it. Not sure if that's a good thing. I'm gonna make a permanent escape soon and I suggest you do the same.
Like someone told ne a long time ago, this place is very toxic!! click to expandclick to expand
Posted by MetatronPosted by bkbella86Posted by MetatronPosted by MyStarsShine
if he wants you...he will move mountains to be with you.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10412.He_s_Just_Not_That_Into_You
was your experience pre-Tinder though?
seems like we're headed more towards gender-equality and/or irrelevance and equal levels of effort expected from both parties...
click to expand
No were not. Certain things just don’t change. Men are hunters. The women who chase or meet men halfway have low quality relationships I can guarantee it. Men don’t like anything too easy and even when in a relationship he still needs to feel that he may lose you to keep the effort up. click to expand
we're not moving towards gender-equality? probably a few sociologists who would disagree with you, but they don't offer their personal "guarantee" along with their theories, so maybe its just more lies and propaganda....
plenty of women hunt as well, they just have their own way of doing it....there are a lot of ways to hunt, some more passive than others....you can bait a trap with the way you walk, talk, dress, etc., in the same way that a male can pursue/be assertive in courtship....women are also fully capable of the latter, and I see it all the time....
you don't think men and women should put in equal effort in courtship? you think a dude should be more worried about losing you, due to lack of effort, than you should? sounds like you have a sense of entitlement based on your gender.... click to expandclick to expand




Posted by TotiTrue.
No matter how much we try to rationalize someone else's emotions (and sometimes even our own), it can never be black and white. It can never be explained with certainty. We never really can know how the other feels. Sometimes what they do is the opposite of what they feel. Sometimes we can't do what we really want. Sometimes we ghost out of fear. Yes, the strong among us will say those are just excuses for bs character... We can only get to know ourselves. Let us make that relationship work.

Posted by TheSagMen hunt sex. True.
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
Posted by TheSagAnd and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
Posted by perperunaxdPosted by lisabethur8Posted by greengemini_Posted by Lioness18881Posted by greengemini_Posted by Lioness18881Posted by YodiPosted by Lioness18881
🤷 some people like trying and sometimes it's worth trying for. They'll eventually figure it out and move on. I think deep down, they already know the answer to their question most of the time. Sometimes they just need kindess or empathy or to vent because they're hurting. And sometimes it just takes them a long time to grieve and let go. Everyone recovers from loss or heartbreak at their own pace and in their own way. Not everyone is comfortable burdening people they know, so they come here, naive and optimistic only to be judged and criticised, put down and crucified just for having feelings and being sad.
+1
This is my number one issue with this forum.. I understand that old heads be on high alert for trolls but damn!.. the way some users go in on a heartbroken newbie is so disheartening. click to expand
I agree. I think the delivery hurts more than the truth. It's really bitter and spiteful. click to expand
Who did that? click to expand
Lots of people across most forums. Even comments in this topic, is putting down people who have been hurt or rejected like they're pathetic. It's so bitter and nasty. click to expand
I hear ya. Unfortunately it's the nature of the site. There's a lot of depressed and unhappy people here.
You can spot the ones with legit mental illnesses if you know what to look for. Since we don't have anyone guiding the community, things will unfortunately turn to the negative because...we are humans ...and imperfect.
I've learned to accept it. Not sure if that's a good thing. I'm gonna make a permanent escape soon and I suggest you do the same.
Like someone told ne a long time ago, this place is very toxic!! click to expand
there are people here w/ mental illnesses? well then we're just gonna help them/fix them/heal them aren't we? click to expand
Hey, we got ourselves a comedian here! click to expandclick to expand

Posted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by TheSagTry and acquire better judgement....reading people is a skill worth learningPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of shit.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by Sagittaire_Posted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of shit.Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
Know what...
I was actually going to agree on this thread then I read yours.. and then it kinda clicked to me as a sag too.. so.. 😂
But im curious tho... would u settle for convenience or for love?
Would u go for something less meaningful but enjoyable or would u go for what you truly want altho it hurts and demand u to sacrifice a lot at first and you not even knowing where it will lead?
Will u take that leap?
I lost that fiery side of me honestly hahahahaa 😂 click to expandclick to expand

Posted by Squishy_MarshmallowIt could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^Posted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expandclick to expand

Posted by MyStarsShinewe cannot just force people to be in our life, the best thing we can do is to be happy for them and let GO
The last guy I was with used to travel from another country to be with me....two planes and a train journey and later on I would fly out to meet him. There was no doubt he didn't want to be with me. He once said to me "Wild horses couldn't drag me away from you" ❤️
So I don't understand why women wait and wait for guys who disappear and ghost on them....?
It's quite simple ... if he wants you...he will move mountains to be with you. If he doesn't he won't....it really is as simple as that
It's sad to see so many women wasting their lives on nothing
I didn't read the book, but a guy wrote it.....maybe he explains a few things in there that are useful to know?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10412.He_s_Just_Not_That_Into_You

Posted by YodiBasically DXP is the technological version of a witch hunt for any woman who is courageous enough to profess her feelings and vulnerability in a romantic context.Posted by Lioness18881
🤷 some people like trying and sometimes it's worth trying for. They'll eventually figure it out and move on. I think deep down, they already know the answer to their question most of the time. Sometimes they just need kindess or empathy or to vent because they're hurting. And sometimes it just takes them a long time to grieve and let go. Everyone recovers from loss or heartbreak at their own pace and in their own way. Not everyone is comfortable burdening people they know, so they come here, naive and optimistic only to be judged and criticised, put down and crucified just for having feelings and being sad.
+1
This is my number one issue with this forum.. I understand that old heads be on high alert for trolls but damn!.. the way some users go in on a heartbroken newbie is so disheartening. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by Squishy_MarshmallowI didn't say they wouldn't.Posted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expand
It could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^
Let's see another scenario. If I am with a girl that I have strong feelings for, then I would risk my life for her anytime, because that's how much she affects me. So after I rescued her life when I killed those ugly Aliens once, that girl assumes I am into her, which is true. But time goes by and for some reason I am not proposing to her, so she wonders, whether I am actually not into her because her friends and books told her so. The truth is I love her, but just the thought of the wedding itself makes me feel suicidal, it doesn't matter whether you are Miss Universe or not. lol click to expand
I'm not buying this. Guys when they like a girl try to be around her esp if she shows interest. I have seen guys try to make the girl laugh even if she's mad. They don't give up easily.
click to expandclick to expand

Posted by Squishy_MarshmallowAll am saying is the books you all read are full of crap. lolPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expand
It could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^
Let's see another scenario. If I am with a girl that I have strong feelings for, then I would risk my life for her anytime, because that's how much she affects me. So after I rescued her life when I killed those ugly Aliens once, that girl assumes I am into her, which is true. But time goes by and for some reason I am not proposing to her, so she wonders, whether I am actually not into her because her friends and books told her so. The truth is I love her, but just the thought of the wedding itself makes me feel suicidal, it doesn't matter whether you are Miss Universe or not. lol click to expand
I'm not buying this. Guys when they like a girl try to be around her esp if she shows interest. I have seen guys try to make the girl laugh even if she's mad. They don't give up easily.
click to expand
I didn't say they wouldn't.
Would I risk my life for her? Yes. Would I do anything she wants? No.
click to expand
I doubt most women would want a slave or a doormat.
I believe we are discussing men who will commit to a girl, not just any girl but the girl he loves. Not the ones who are the eternal players. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by Squishy_MarshmallowDon't worry, we all are jealous and mess up.^^Posted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expand
It could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^
Let's see another scenario. If I am with a girl that I have strong feelings for, then I would risk my life for her anytime, because that's how much she affects me. So after I rescued her life when I killed those ugly Aliens once, that girl assumes I am into her, which is true. But time goes by and for some reason I am not proposing to her, so she wonders, whether I am actually not into her because her friends and books told her so. The truth is I love her, but just the thought of the wedding itself makes me feel suicidal, it doesn't matter whether you are Miss Universe or not. lol click to expand
I'm not buying this. Guys when they like a girl try to be around her esp if she shows interest. I have seen guys try to make the girl laugh even if she's mad. They don't give up easily.
click to expand
I didn't say they wouldn't.
Would I risk my life for her? Yes. Would I do anything she wants? No.
click to expand
I doubt most women would want a slave or a doormat.
I believe we are discussing men who will commit to a girl, not just any girl but the girl he loves. Not the ones who are the eternal players. click to expand
All am saying is the books you all read are full of crap. lol
Just because a man loves you doesn't mean he is conquering the world for you or that committing is easy for him. And also just because he is persistant, it doesn't mean he is automatically into you .
click to expand
Actually I know this lol
And I don't read these books either. I go by my heart.
But I do get confused and insecure and tend to be jealous too. So I mess up:/ click to expandclick to expand

Posted by iridiumMy name is TheSag and this is my oppinion. 🙂
“Love has a time stamp”

Posted by Squishy_Marshmallowlol What?Posted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expand
It could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^
Let's see another scenario. If I am with a girl that I have strong feelings for, then I would risk my life for her anytime, because that's how much she affects me. So after I rescued her life when I killed those ugly Aliens once, that girl assumes I am into her, which is true. But time goes by and for some reason I am not proposing to her, so she wonders, whether I am actually not into her because her friends and books told her so. The truth is I love her, but just the thought of the wedding itself makes me feel suicidal, it doesn't matter whether you are Miss Universe or not. lol click to expand
I'm not buying this. Guys when they like a girl try to be around her esp if she shows interest. I have seen guys try to make the girl laugh even if she's mad. They don't give up easily.
click to expand
I didn't say they wouldn't.
Would I risk my life for her? Yes. Would I do anything she wants? No.
click to expand
I doubt most women would want a slave or a doormat.
I believe we are discussing men who will commit to a girl, not just any girl but the girl he loves. Not the ones who are the eternal players. click to expand
All am saying is the books you all read are full of crap. lol
Just because a man loves you doesn't mean he is conquering the world for you or that committing is easy for him. And also just because he is persistant, it doesn't mean he is automatically into you .
click to expand
Actually I know this lol
And I don't read these books either. I go by my heart.
But I do get confused and insecure and tend to be jealous too. So I mess up:/ click to expand
Don't worry, we all are jealous and mess up.^^ click to expand
No. I said something cheap, I'm ashamed. I can't believe i did
Thanks. Bye. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by TheSagNot so.....not all people are full of crap and write crap, this guy does seem to make some valid points....Posted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expand
It could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^
Let's see another scenario. If I am with a girl that I have strong feelings for, then I would risk my life for her anytime, because that's how much she affects me. So after I rescued her life when I killed those ugly Aliens once, that girl assumes I am into her, which is true. But time goes by and for some reason I am not proposing to her, so she wonders, whether I am actually not into her because her friends and books told her so. The truth is I love her, but just the thought of the wedding itself makes me feel suicidal, it doesn't matter whether you are Miss Universe or not. lol click to expand
I'm not buying this. Guys when they like a girl try to be around her esp if she shows interest. I have seen guys try to make the girl laugh even if she's mad. They don't give up easily.
click to expand
I didn't say they wouldn't.
Would I risk my life for her? Yes. Would I do anything she wants? No.
click to expand
I doubt most women would want a slave or a doormat.
I believe we are discussing men who will commit to a girl, not just any girl but the girl he loves. Not the ones who are the eternal players. click to expand
All am saying is the books you all read are full of crap. lol
Just because a man loves you doesn't mean he is conquering the world for you or that committing is easy for him. And also just because he is persistant, it doesn't mean he is automatically into you .
click to expandclick to expand

Posted by MyStarsShineThis guy is a good business man and knows what sells most, that's why "he really will move heaven and earth to be with you" sounds so easy and legit.Posted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expand
It could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^
Let's see another scenario. If I am with a girl that I have strong feelings for, then I would risk my life for her anytime, because that's how much she affects me. So after I rescued her life when I killed those ugly Aliens once, that girl assumes I am into her, which is true. But time goes by and for some reason I am not proposing to her, so she wonders, whether I am actually not into her because her friends and books told her so. The truth is I love her, but just the thought of the wedding itself makes me feel suicidal, it doesn't matter whether you are Miss Universe or not. lol click to expand
I'm not buying this. Guys when they like a girl try to be around her esp if she shows interest. I have seen guys try to make the girl laugh even if she's mad. They don't give up easily.
click to expand
I didn't say they wouldn't.
Would I risk my life for her? Yes. Would I do anything she wants? No.
click to expand
I doubt most women would want a slave or a doormat.
I believe we are discussing men who will commit to a girl, not just any girl but the girl he loves. Not the ones who are the eternal players. click to expand
All am saying is the books you all read are full of crap. lol
Just because a man loves you doesn't mean he is conquering the world for you or that committing is easy for him. And also just because he is persistant, it doesn't mean he is automatically into you .
click to expand
Not so.....not all people are full of crap and write crap, this guy does seem to make some valid points.... click to expandclick to expand

Posted by TheSagNot truePosted by MyStarsShinePosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expand
It could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^
Let's see another scenario. If I am with a girl that I have strong feelings for, then I would risk my life for her anytime, because that's how much she affects me. So after I rescued her life when I killed those ugly Aliens once, that girl assumes I am into her, which is true. But time goes by and for some reason I am not proposing to her, so she wonders, whether I am actually not into her because her friends and books told her so. The truth is I love her, but just the thought of the wedding itself makes me feel suicidal, it doesn't matter whether you are Miss Universe or not. lol click to expand
I'm not buying this. Guys when they like a girl try to be around her esp if she shows interest. I have seen guys try to make the girl laugh even if she's mad. They don't give up easily.
click to expand
I didn't say they wouldn't.
Would I risk my life for her? Yes. Would I do anything she wants? No.
click to expand
I doubt most women would want a slave or a doormat.
I believe we are discussing men who will commit to a girl, not just any girl but the girl he loves. Not the ones who are the eternal players. click to expand
All am saying is the books you all read are full of crap. lol
Just because a man loves you doesn't mean he is conquering the world for you or that committing is easy for him. And also just because he is persistant, it doesn't mean he is automatically into you .
click to expand
Not so.....not all people are full of crap and write crap, this guy does seem to make some valid points.... click to expand
This guy is a good business man and knows what sells most, that's why "he really will move heaven and earth to be with you" sounds so easy and legit.
I recently watched some videos on youtube about male dating coaches for women who adress the same mindset over and over again and women fall for it easily. I can honestly say they are getting played by those scam artists, just like many men get played by PUA coaches too.
Only one guy seemed to be legit in my oppinion, he adressed things to women that no other coach would ever say. Unfortunately he is not that popular and I can't remember his name. A blonde guy in his mid to late 30s. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by MyStarsShineAre they still around? And how many of them did you marry?Posted by TheSagPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expand
It could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^
Let's see another scenario. If I am with a girl that I have strong feelings for, then I would risk my life for her anytime, because that's how much she affects me. So after I rescued her life when I killed those ugly Aliens once, that girl assumes I am into her, which is true. But time goes by and for some reason I am not proposing to her, so she wonders, whether I am actually not into her because her friends and books told her so. The truth is I love her, but just the thought of the wedding itself makes me feel suicidal, it doesn't matter whether you are Miss Universe or not. lol click to expand
I'm not buying this. Guys when they like a girl try to be around her esp if she shows interest. I have seen guys try to make the girl laugh even if she's mad. They don't give up easily.
click to expand
I didn't say they wouldn't.
Would I risk my life for her? Yes. Would I do anything she wants? No.
click to expand
I doubt most women would want a slave or a doormat.
I believe we are discussing men who will commit to a girl, not just any girl but the girl he loves. Not the ones who are the eternal players. click to expand
All am saying is the books you all read are full of crap. lol
Just because a man loves you doesn't mean he is conquering the world for you or that committing is easy for him. And also just because he is persistant, it doesn't mean he is automatically into you .
click to expand
Not so.....not all people are full of crap and write crap, this guy does seem to make some valid points.... click to expand
This guy is a good business man and knows what sells most, that's why "he really will move heaven and earth to be with you" sounds so easy and legit.
I recently watched some videos on youtube about male dating coaches for women who adress the same mindset over and over again and women fall for it easily. I can honestly say they are getting played by those scam artists, just like many men get played by PUA coaches too.
Only one guy seemed to be legit in my oppinion, he adressed things to women that no other coach would ever say. Unfortunately he is not that popular and I can't remember his name. A blonde guy in his mid to late 30s. click to expand
Not true
Real men in real life will move heaven and earth....a few have for me, my sis, my mother etc etc
Those men weren't scared of intimacy or commitment like seemingly a lot of men can be these days
click to expandclick to expand
Posted by Squishy_Marshmallowwow @squishy..Posted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expand
It could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^
Let's see another scenario. If I am with a girl that I have strong feelings for, then I would risk my life for her anytime, because that's how much she affects me. So after I rescued her life when I killed those ugly Aliens once, that girl assumes I am into her, which is true. But time goes by and for some reason I am not proposing to her, so she wonders, whether I am actually not into her because her friends and books told her so. The truth is I love her, but just the thought of the wedding itself makes me feel suicidal, it doesn't matter whether you are Miss Universe or not. lol click to expand
I'm not buying this. Guys when they like a girl try to be around her esp if she shows interest. I have seen guys try to make the girl laugh even if she's mad. They don't give up easily.
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Posted by TheSagThree passedPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by TheSagPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_Marshmallowbr /
"https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/message/?id=10906697">Posted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expand
It could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^
Let's see another scenario. If I am with a girl that I have strong feelings for, then I would risk my life for her anytime, because that's how much she affects me. So after I rescued her life when I killed those ugly Aliens once, that girl assumes I am into her, which is true. But time goes by and for some reason I am not proposing to her, so she wonders, whether I am actually not into her because her friends and books told her so. The truth is I love her, but just the thought of the wedding itself makes me feel suicidal, it doesn't matter whether you are Miss Universe or not. lol click to expand
I'm not buying this. Guys when they like a girl try to be around her esp if she shows interest. I have seen guys try to make the girl laugh even if she's mad. They don't give up easily.
click to expand
I didn't say they wouldn't.
Would I risk my life for her? Yes. Would I do anything she wants? No.
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I doubt most women would want a slave or a doormat.
I believe we are discussing men who will commit to a girl, not just any girl but the girl he loves. Not the ones who are the eternal players. click to expand
All am saying is the books you all read are full of crap. lol
Just because a man loves you doesn't mean he is conquering the world for you or that committing is easy for him. And also just because he is persistant, it doesn't mean he is automatically into you .
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Not so.....not all people are full of crap and write crap, this guy does seem to make some valid points.... click to expand
This guy is a good business man and knows what sells most, that's why "he really will move heaven and earth to be with you" sounds so easy and legit.
I recently watched some videos on youtube about male dating coaches for women who adress the same mindset over and over again and women fall for it easily. I can honestly say they are getting played by those scam artists, just like many men get played by PUA coaches too.
Only one guy seemed to be legit in my oppinion, he adressed things to women that no other coach would ever say. Unfortunately he is not that popular and I can't remember his name. A blonde guy in his mid to late 30s. click to expand
Not true
Real men in real life will move heaven and earth....a few have for me, my sis, my mother etc etc
Those men weren't scared of intimacy or commitment like seemingly a lot of men can be these days
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Are they still around? And how many of them did you marry?
real men lol - when have real men ever existed? Fifty years ago people got married out of practical reasons an social norms since women didn't even work at all and not because your grandfather put so much effort in. It was easy then , but it's not anymore. The divorce rates are growing in the west anyway and people are having less children too. Wait another 50 years and see what will happen..
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Posted by MyStarsShinebecause you are getting brain washed believing that shit, real men lolPosted by TheSagPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by TheSagPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expand
It could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^
Let's see another scenario. If I am with a girl that I have strong feelings for, then I would risk my life for her anytime, because that's how much she affects me. So after I rescued her life when I killed those ugly Aliens once, that girl assumes I am into her, which is true. But time goes by and for some reason I am not proposing to her, so she wonders, whether I am actually not into her because her friends and books told her so. The truth is I love her, but just the thought of the wedding itself makes me feel suicidal, it doesn't matter whether you are Miss Universe or not. lol click to expand
I'm not buying this. Guys when they like a girl try to be around her esp if she shows interest. I have seen guys try to make the girl laugh even if she's mad. They don't give up easily.
click to expand
I didn't say they wouldn't.
Would I risk my life for her? Yes. Would I do anything she wants? No.
click to expand
I doubt most women would want a slave or a doormat.
I believe we are discussing men who will commit to a girl, not just any girl but the girl he loves. Not the ones who are the eternal players. click to expand
All am saying is the books you all read are full of crap. lol
Just because a man loves you doesn't mean he is conquering the world for you or that committing is easy for him. And also just because he is persistant, it doesn't mean he is automatically into you .
click to expand
Not so.....not all people are full of crap and write crap, this guy does seem to make some valid points.... click to expand
This guy is a good business man and knows what sells most, that's why "he really will move heaven and earth to be with you" sounds so easy and legit.
I recently watched some videos on youtube about male dating coaches for women who adress the same mindset over and over again and women fall for it easily. I can honestly say they are getting played by those scam artists, just like many men get played by PUA coaches too.
Only one guy seemed to be legit in my oppinion, he adressed things to women that no other coach would ever say. Unfortunately he is not that popular and I can't remember his name. A blonde guy in his mid to late 30s. click to expand
Not true
Real men in real life will move heaven and earth....a few have for me, my sis, my mother etc etc
Those men weren't scared of intimacy or commitment like seemingly a lot of men can be these days
click to expand
Are they still around? And how many of them did you marry?
real men lol - when have real men ever existed? Fifty years ago people got married out of practical reasons an social norms since women didn't even work at all and not because your grandfather put so much effort in. It was easy then , but it's not anymore. The divorce rates are growing in the west anyway and people are having less children too. Wait another 50 years and see what will happen..
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Three passed
I married one of them and even though we are not together we would move mountains to help each other and our son
Wow at you not believing in real men....you really are doing your gender a disservice
Sad click to expandclick to expand
Posted by TheSagFriends and books? You say that like there’s something wrong. Are you controlling? People read books to understand things and to become more knowledgeable. Friends can actually save you from heartache. Good friends are great to have in life and id def listen to them over a dude who show little to no interest.Posted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expand
It could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^
Let's see another scenario. If I am with a girl that I have strong feelings for, then I would risk my life for her anytime, because that's how much she affects me. So after I rescued her life when I killed those ugly Aliens once, that girl assumes I am into her, which is true. But time goes by and for some reason I am not proposing to her, so she wonders, whether I am actually not into her because her friends and books told her so. The truth is I love her, but just the thought of the wedding itself makes me feel suicidal, it doesn't matter whether you are Miss Universe or not. lol click to expandclick to expand

Posted by TheSagYou are clueless about lifePosted by MyStarsShinePosted by TheSagPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by TheSagPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expand
It could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^
Let's see another scenario. If I am with a girl that I have strong feelings for, then I would risk my life for her anytime, because that's how much she affects me. So after I rescued her life when I killed those ugly Aliens once, that girl assumes I am into her, which is true. But time goes by and for some reason I am not proposing to her, so she wonders, whether I am actually not into her because her friends and books told her so. The truth is I love her, but just the thought of the wedding itself makes me feel suicidal, it doesn't matter whether you are Miss Universe or not. lol click to expand
I'm not buying this. Guys when they like a girl try to be around her esp if she shows interest. I have seen guys try to make the girl laugh even if she's mad. They don't give up easily.
click to expand
I didn't say they wouldn't.
Would I risk my life for her? Yes. Would I do anything she wants? No.
click to expand
I doubt most women would want a slave or a doormat.
I believe we are discussing men who will commit to a girl, not just any girl but the girl he loves. Not the ones who are the eternal players. click to expand
All am saying is the books you all read are full of crap. lol
Just because a man loves you doesn't mean he is conquering the world for you or that committing is easy for him. And also just because he is persistant, it doesn't mean he is automatically into you .
click to expand
Not so.....not all people are full of crap and write crap, this guy does seem to make some valid points.... click to expand
This guy is a good business man and knows what sells most, that's why "he really will move heaven and earth to be with you" sounds so easy and legit.
I recently watched some videos on youtube about male dating coaches for women who adress the same mindset over and over again and women fall for it easily. I can honestly say they are getting played by those scam artists, just like many men get played by PUA coaches too.
Only one guy seemed to be legit in my oppinion, he adressed things to women that no other coach would ever say. Unfortunately he is not that popular and I can't remember his name. A blonde guy in his mid to late 30s. click to expand
Not true
Real men in real life will move heaven and earth....a few have for me, my sis, my mother etc etc
Those men weren't scared of intimacy or commitment like seemingly a lot of men can be these days
click to expand
Are they still around? And how many of them did you marry?
real men lol - when have real men ever existed? Fifty years ago people got married out of practical reasons an social norms since women didn't even work at all and not because your grandfather put so much effort in. It was easy then , but it's not anymore. The divorce rates are growing in the west anyway and people are having less children too. Wait another 50 years and see what will happen..
click to expand
Three passed
I married one of them and even though we are not together we would move mountains to help each other and our son
Wow at you not believing in real men....you really are doing your gender a disservice
Sad click to expand
because you are getting brain washed believing that shit, real men lol
The guy you married is not with you anymore, that's what I was implying, even though he once was a "real man" I guess. You either thought he were the ONE or you just settled
And helping each other and your son has nothing to do with this anyway
Marriage and oldschool relationships are doomed to fail in the future
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Posted by lisabethur8True 👍
i read this,
"a strong man is not intimidated by a strong woman; he will be inspired."
i think that's about building eachother up,
not by tearing eachother down either.. which both sexes can do.
a strong man will not feel that has to compete or control a woman..

Posted by stillstillwaterLol I agree completely..Posted by YodiPosted by Lioness18881
🤷 some people like trying and sometimes it's worth trying for. They'll eventually figure it out and move on. I think deep down, they already know the answer to their question most of the time. Sometimes they just need kindess or empathy or to vent because they're hurting. And sometimes it just takes them a long time to grieve and let go. Everyone recovers from loss or heartbreak at their own pace and in their own way. Not everyone is comfortable burdening people they know, so they come here, naive and optimistic only to be judged and criticised, put down and crucified just for having feelings and being sad.
+1
This is my number one issue with this forum.. I understand that old heads be on high alert for trolls but damn!.. the way some users go in on a heartbroken newbie is so disheartening. click to expand
Basically DXP is the technological version of a witch hunt for any woman who is courageous enough to profess her feelings and vulnerability in a romantic context.
Most people on here are markers and they just love to make it seem like they live in ivory towers incapable of having their heart broken because they're too clever for that and that their entire view on life is seen through their cheery comedic glasses. *GAG*
99% of my threads I regret. and I'm like i would share this with my real friends who are not markers like these markers on here but then I can't say things like how does my moon aspect his sun...or whether his mars in the 5th house is sextile with my venus in 8th house and how mercury was in retrograde at that time so may be that's why our communication is doomed rather than him being an inconsiderate jerkoff.
How can i talk to my real friends about the reality of my life when I just want to blame it on the stars. I can't with you people.
The worse people on here are those who you just know that they know better and that in real lief they have that decency to not butter on someone's dignity but suddenly behind the computer screen they forget who they are really are.
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Posted by bkbella86Agreed. But where did I say anything against friends?Posted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expand
It could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^
Let's see another scenario. If I am with a girl that I have strong feelings for, then I would risk my life for her anytime, because that's how much she affects me. So after I rescued her life when I killed those ugly Aliens once, that girl assumes I am into her, which is true. But time goes by and for some reason I am not proposing to her, so she wonders, whether I am actually not into her because her friends and books told her so. The truth is I love her, but just the thought of the wedding itself makes me feel suicidal, it doesn't matter whether you are Miss Universe or not. lol click to expand
Friends and books? You say that like there’s something wrong. Are you controlling? People read books to understand things and to become more knowledgeable. Friends can actually save you from heartache. Good friends are great to have in life and id def listen to them over a dude who show little to no interest.
People do what they want at the end of the day but it’s nice to have guidance and perspective from others. click to expandclick to expand

Posted by bkbella86Agreed. But where did I say anything against friends?Posted by TheSagPosted by Squishy_MarshmallowPosted by TheSagPosted by bkbella86Posted by TheSag
@bkbella86
"Men are hunters."
Maybe, but men hunt sex not necessarily relationships.
"Stop spreading lies and propaganda. Effort is still there for things people care about. If a mans dream girl comes into play best believe he will find all the effort in the world."
Don't underestimate a man's laziness, pride, fear of rejection and fear of losing his freedom.
And and if his pride, laziness and fear of losing freeedom all come before me then he isn’t that into me. All those things would fall to the waste side for his dream girl. I don’t dissect it much. If he isn’t putting forth a certain effort he isn’t that into me. Best to keep it pushing also to have other options.
If a man isn’t even putting effort into getting sex he definitely isn’t into me with your logic. click to expand
It's not as simple as you may think. Those books women read bout men and relationships are just full of butter.
Most men know if they invest a lot these days they will most likely get nothing out of it, that's why being lazy or fearing to lose your freedom is just a way of self protection. Why put in effort, tears and blood on a girl that has a book as a check list and can make you go crazy when you can save lots of drama and headaches and go for something less meaningful, yet still enjoyable? That's what I am saying, many guys just avoid getting attached to anybody and that has nothing to do with not being into you .
And if I actually push for sex then I am definetely NOT into you at all, trust me. click to expand
So you are saying if you fall madly in love with a girl, you will walk away by keeping your ego intact out of fear of rejection? Or will you try to make it work? click to expand
It could happen that I won't put much effort for many reasons. Sometimes it's the fear of what if things go too well? ^^
Let's see another scenario. If I am with a girl that I have strong feelings for, then I would risk my life for her anytime, because that's how much she affects me. So after I rescued her life when I killed those ugly Aliens once, that girl assumes I am into her, which is true. But time goes by and for some reason I am not proposing to her, so she wonders, whether I am actually not into her because her friends and books told her so. The truth is I love her, but just the thought of the wedding itself makes me feel suicidal, it doesn't matter whether you are Miss Universe or not. lol click to expand
Friends and books? You say that like there’s something wrong. Are you controlling? People read books to understand things and to become more knowledgeable. Friends can actually save you from heartache. Good friends are great to have in life and id def listen to them over a dude who show little to no interest.
People do what they want at the end of the day but it’s nice to have guidance and perspective from others. click to expandclick to expand
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