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Have any of you guys been hopelessly in love or had an unrequited love.

The reason I post this topic is because I have 3 close friends who are borderline obsessed with another person for years and that person doesn't even give them the time of day.

My one friend he's a leo, has been pursing an older Aries woman for about 10 years now. He was 21 and she was 31 when they first met. Dated for 4 months...they broke up because "he's immature". But he is still actively chasing and pursuing her...sometimes she takes the bait, other times she just runs away and ghosts for months. It hurts for me to see as a friend because it seriously affects him. He gets a high off her and when she disapears he becomes depressed. It's like an addiction. And he has t had successful relation ships since and if he does, he ends up in an emotional affair with this woman.

He says she's the one he's going to marry, but I hate that he thinks that. Because she is such a maker.

My other friend is a Libra woman chasing a leo male for a year.

And a Scorpio make chasing a super young detached Aqua for 2 years.

Anyone been in a scenario like this? Anyone been this woman/man. What goes in through you're head? How did it turn out for you? when did you give up? How did you heal.

If it was a success, how long until you won?
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i like unrequited crushes coz it makes me feel like gatsby gazing off at the green light of daisy's east egg dock

if i were a guy, i'd probably be one of those mopey creeps always whining about some girl he keeps chasing


Perfect description of my friends "mopey creep always whining about some girl he keeps chasing"

Is it bad I just don't respond to him when he talks about her?

"Saw so and so today...wow she's so pretty!!" @_@
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Oooof........fine, you caught me. Now I'm not, but I used to be. We just had dinner and the first thing we're doing after we brushed our teeth, we have a little open-up session. But mine is a tad different. My boy knows me as "HeavyEntertainmentShow", but my previous account I got accidentally locked out of is still here. Lost both the password and the email I used to sign up with.

I first signed up when my own hopeless unrequited love was reaching its final stage (I almost said ultimate form lmfao). And what we're doing now is going back and reading all of my posts from 2 years ago when I was slowly but steadily going mad with love and sorrow. I'm still waiting for my entire post history to load, but what I'm already seeing is already giving me anxiety. I keep wondering how I survived it.

Hey Jed, say hi to @-sierra- and @tctaa

They think you have a really bite-able ass.
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i like unrequited crushes coz it makes me feel like gatsby gazing off at the green light of daisy's east egg dock

if i were a guy, i'd probably be one of those mopey creeps always whining about some girl he keeps chasing



lmao...love this....

& your avi...hahahhaah

saddest thing is i'm serious
i think maybe i'm a masochist
it feels nice to have a good cry
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I think most people experience that kind of longing, at least at some point in their lives....Pisces Moons are just more adorable and vulnerable about it...
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Sounds like...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-young-and-the-restless/201109/limerence-when-is-it-more-heartbreak

In these situations the longer it goes on the less it has to do with the actual person who is the object of affection and the more it has to do with the fantasy in the obsessed person's mind.


Yes, agreed. It's the fantasty...hard to break that ideal.

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i like unrequited crushes coz it makes me feel like gatsby gazing off at the green light of daisy's east egg dock

if i were a guy, i'd probably be one of those mopey creeps always whining about some girl he keeps chasing



lmao...love this....

& your avi...hahahhaah
Taurus loves to be on the receiving end of that LOL
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could be true....lol
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Sounds like...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-young-and-the-restless/201109/limerence-when-is-it-more-heartbreak

In these situations the longer it goes on the less it has to do with the actual person who is the object of affection and the more it has to do with the fantasy in the obsessed person's mind.

i got this theory that you can romantically objectify someone.. not even sexually nor physically mind you.. but then you can just as easily discard them for another romantic object of infatuation... which makes it in nature pretty superficial
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definitely agree here....I don't see this as being unfaithful though....sometimes the object of your unrequited romantic infatuation really lets you down, like when they don't conform to the imaginary expectations that they don't know you've placed on them, and then you have to switch them out for someone less disappointing....its nothing personal, just that the limerence must go on....
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i like unrequited crushes coz it makes me feel like gatsby gazing off at the green light of daisy's east egg dock

if i were a guy, i'd probably be one of those mopey creeps always whining about some girl he keeps chasing



lmao...love this....

& your avi...hahahhaah



saddest thing is i'm serious
i think maybe i'm a masochist
it feels nice to have a good cry



I think most people experience that kind of longing, at least at some point in their lives....Pisces Moons are just more adorable and vulnerable about it...

people rarely admit to child-like thoughts and feelings they have..

reminds me of anne of green gables when she almost drowned when she tried to re-enact a scene where some girl dies coz of unrequited love for some knight lmfao i'm so proud of her possible neptune in the 5th

bet she was a pisces moon too lolz
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lol and the bold is so true...
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Sounds like...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-young-and-the-restless/201109/limerence-when-is-it-more-heartbreak

In these situations the longer it goes on the less it has to do with the actual person who is the object of affection and the more it has to do with the fantasy in the obsessed person's mind.



i got this theory that you can romantically objectify someone.. not even sexually nor physically mind you.. but then you can just as easily discard them for another romantic object of infatuation... which makes it in nature pretty superficial



definitely agree here....I don't see this as being unfaithful though....sometimes the object of your unrequited romantic infatuation really lets you down, like when they don't conform to the imaginary expectations that they don't know you've placed on them, and then you have to switch them out for someone less disappointing....its nothing personal, just that the limerence must go on....

exactly but in my case i don't even want reciprocation.. see not only do i have a pisces moon but it's also in the 8th house and in that persona moon thing i've got scorpio moon lmfao..

it's too dangerous for me to actually have feelings deeper than child-like crushes and almost impossible.. coz that obsession's already over my boyfriend's head, these aren't handouts *crylaughs

like right now i have a new job and will probably have a new crush who i will then discard after a while..
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I talk to another Pisces Moon who has this same exact issue....She thinks she has ROCD, which I hadn't heard of previously. I watched a vid on it on youtube, and I think the video actually gave me the condition if I didn't have it before...
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In my experience it’s partly their fault and partly their object of affections part.

No one can stay totally into someone where there’s no hope. Some people are honest enough to deter someone, but not count them out entirely. Classic backburner. ‘I don’t want to lead you on... *insert vague leading statements about why they can’t be with them right now*

Because when the person being chased finally find someone someone they truly want, they will definitively cut out the person enamoured by them. And it will normally be harsh enough to sever it totally.

Flipside, when you’re being played most people always kinda realize it. Some part of them knows they’re not engaging in reciprocated love. But the thrill of getting close and the hope that the dream they’ve built up will happen finally keeps driving them. They prefer the idea over the reality. So a part of them actually enjoys the lack of reality.



That's not always true. I had a crush on a guy in high school for four years. He never ever gave me any hope whatsoever.

I'm really glad I didn't get my way on that one, because now I know he is not a smart man. lol

Yeah, true. The OP did say that some of her friends were doing this over people who don't even give them the time of day, though.
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I did say who don't give them the time of day, but they aren't crushes. They are people from their past that they have at one point had a romantic connection to.
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In my experience it’s partly their fault and partly their object of affections part.

No one can stay totally into someone where there’s no hope. Some people are honest enough to deter someone, but not count them out entirely. Classic backburner. ‘I don’t want to lead you on... *insert vague leading statements about why they can’t be with them right now*

Because when the person being chased finally find someone someone they truly want, they will definitively cut out the person enamoured by them. And it will normally be harsh enough to sever it totally.

Flipside, when you’re being played most people always kinda realize it. Some part of them knows they’re not engaging in reciprocated love. But the thrill of getting close and the hope that the dream they’ve built up will happen finally keeps driving them. They prefer the idea over the reality. So a part of them actually enjoys the lack of reality.



That's not always true. I had a crush on a guy in high school for four years. He never ever gave me any hope whatsoever.

I'm really glad I didn't get my way on that one, because now I know he is not a smart man. lol



Yeah, true. The OP did say that some of her friends were doing this over people who don't even give them the time of day, though.


I did say who don't give them the time of day, but they aren't crushes. They are people from their past that they have at one point had a romantic connection to.

Right, but in that case, the obsessee is not giving the obsessed false hope.

This is actually the worst situation. I went through it a few times. I blame my Taurus Venus. I love her, but she doesn't like to let go.
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Damn, Taurus placements...so damn stubborn

When I was a young cow, I did a lot of chasing, had a revolving door of back up men. I turned 30, had a failed LTR and then decided to close and dead bolt all the locks. Burned all the guys on the back burner.

I just don't have energy to waste, here I am, take me or leave me.
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Sounds like...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-young-and-the-restless/201109/limerence-when-is-it-more-heartbreak

In these situations the longer it goes on the less it has to do with the actual person who is the object of affection and the more it has to do with the fantasy in the obsessed person's mind.



i got this theory that you can romantically objectify someone.. not even sexually nor physically mind you.. but then you can just as easily discard them for another romantic object of infatuation... which makes it in nature pretty superficial



definitely agree here....I don't see this as being unfaithful though....sometimes the object of your unrequited romantic infatuation really lets you down, like when they don't conform to the imaginary expectations that they don't know you've placed on them, and then you have to switch them out for someone less disappointing....its nothing personal, just that the limerence must go on....



exactly but in my case i don't even want reciprocation.. see not only do i have a pisces moon but it's also in the 8th house and in that persona moon thing i've got scorpio moon lmfao..

it's too dangerous for me to actually have feelings deeper than child-like crushes and almost impossible.. coz that obsession's already over my boyfriend's head, these aren't handouts *crylaughs

like right now i have a new job and will probably have a new crush who i will then discard after a while..



I talk to another Pisces Moon who has this same exact issue....She thinks she has ROCD, which I hadn't heard of previously. I watched a vid on it on youtube, and I think the video actually gave me the condition if I didn't have it before...

damn more possible health conditions i may have lolz
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lol....my ex has her masters in community counseling, minored in criminal sociology, and she had to work her way through the major disorders in the DSM (its like the Bible for diagnostic criteria in psych)...she would always say she felt she'd literally manifest the symptoms and start to believe she had every disorder she'd look into in-depth...With ROCD, in addition to constantly finding new objects of infatuation, its characterized by obsessive/heavy rumination around whether or not your current partner is up to your standards, whether or not your feelings for them are real, what exactly those feelings are, etc. If that doesn't apply, probably not worth looking into....
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Maybe as humans, some of us justs
love the "thrill of the chase", as they say.

I'm surprised I'm so stable and attached.
I have a lot of air in my chart.

Yeah, I have a feeling most of these obsessions would sputter out immediately if the object of affection actually turned around and said "Okay! You got me!"
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Indeed, might be an ego thing.
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Maybe as humans, some of us justs
love the "thrill of the chase", as they say.

I'm surprised I'm so stable and attached.
I have a lot of air in my chart.



Yeah, I have a feeling most of these obsessions would sputter out immediately if the object of affection actually turned around and said "Okay! You got me!"

if my crush tried to ask me out, my crush on him would plummet down and just disappear

coz that's not how it works in my head
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This makes me sad.

As someone who falls in love easily.

Like if someone is giving me the green go light and I went for it to be rejected....burn. ouch
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In my experience it’s partly their fault and partly their object of affections part.

No one can stay totally into someone where there’s no hope. Some people are honest enough to deter someone, but not count them out entirely. Classic backburner. ‘I don’t want to lead you on... *insert vague leading statements about why they can’t be with them right now*

Because when the person being chased finally find someone someone they truly want, they will definitively cut out the person enamoured by them. And it will normally be harsh enough to sever it totally.

Flipside, when you’re being played most people always kinda realize it. Some part of them knows they’re not engaging in reciprocated love. But the thrill of getting close and the hope that the dream they’ve built up will happen finally keeps driving them. They prefer the idea over the reality. So a part of them actually enjoys the lack of reality.



That's not always true. I had a crush on a guy in high school for four years. He never ever gave me any hope whatsoever.

I'm really glad I didn't get my way on that one, because now I know he is not a smart man. lol



Yeah, true. The OP did say that some of her friends were doing this over people who don't even give them the time of day, though.


I did say who don't give them the time of day, but they aren't crushes. They are people from their past that they have at one point had a romantic connection to.



Right, but in that case, the obsessee is not giving the obsessed false hope.

This is actually the worst situation. I went through it a few times. I blame my Taurus Venus. I love her, but she doesn't like to let go.
Mine I feel gave me false hope
N that I haven’t been able to forgive
Taurus sun was the culprit
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Hmmm, idk why I thought you were a Libra.

Interesting that a lot of Taurus are in this discussion.
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In my experience it’s partly their fault and partly their object of affections part.

No one can stay totally into someone where there’s no hope. Some people are honest enough to deter someone, but not count them out entirely. Classic backburner. ‘I don’t want to lead you on... *insert vague leading statements about why they can’t be with them right now*

Because when the person being chased finally find someone someone they truly want, they will definitively cut out the person enamoured by them. And it will normally be harsh enough to sever it totally.

Flipside, when you’re being played most people always kinda realize it. Some part of them knows they’re not engaging in reciprocated love. But the thrill of getting close and the hope that the dream they’ve built up will happen finally keeps driving them. They prefer the idea over the reality. So a part of them actually enjoys the lack of reality.



That's not always true. I had a crush on a guy in high school for four years. He never ever gave me any hope whatsoever.

I'm really glad I didn't get my way on that one, because now I know he is not a smart man. lol



Yeah, true. The OP did say that some of her friends were doing this over people who don't even give them the time of day, though.


I did say who don't give them the time of day, but they aren't crushes. They are people from their past that they have at one point had a romantic connection to.



Right, but in that case, the obsessee is not giving the obsessed false hope.

This is actually the worst situation. I went through it a few times. I blame my Taurus Venus. I love her, but she doesn't like to let go.


Mine I feel gave me false hope
N that I haven’t been able to forgive
Taurus sun was the culprit


Hmmm, idk why I thought you were a Libra.

Interesting that a lot of Taurus are in this discussion.
I’m a Scorpio with Libra stellium
My addiction was a Taurus sun cap moon
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Oh read that wrong.

Oh the great love story if Scorpio-Taurus

I believe it's the inspiration for Romeo and Juliet lol
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Sounds like...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-young-and-the-restless/201109/limerence-when-is-it-more-heartbreak

In these situations the longer it goes on the less it has to do with the actual person who is the object of affection and the more it has to do with the fantasy in the obsessed person's mind.



i got this theory that you can romantically objectify someone.. not even sexually nor physically mind you.. but then you can just as easily discard them for another romantic object of infatuation... which makes it in nature pretty superficial



definitely agree here....I don't see this as being unfaithful though....sometimes the object of your unrequited romantic infatuation really lets you down, like when they don't conform to the imaginary expectations that they don't know you've placed on them, and then you have to switch them out for someone less disappointing....its nothing personal, just that the limerence must go on....



exactly but in my case i don't even want reciprocation.. see not only do i have a pisces moon but it's also in the 8th house and in that persona moon thing i've got scorpio moon lmfao..

it's too dangerous for me to actually have feelings deeper than child-like crushes and almost impossible.. coz that obsession's already over my boyfriend's head, these aren't handouts *crylaughs

like right now i have a new job and will probably have a new crush who i will then discard after a while..



I talk to another Pisces Moon who has this same exact issue....She thinks she has ROCD, which I hadn't heard of previously. I watched a vid on it on youtube, and I think the video actually gave me the condition if I didn't have it before...



damn more possible health conditions i may have lolz



lol....my ex has her masters in community counseling, minored in criminal sociology, and she had to work her way through the major disorders in the DSM (its like the Bible for diagnostic criteria in psych)...she would always say she felt she'd literally manifest the symptoms and start to believe she had every disorder she'd look into in-depth...With ROCD, in addition to constantly finding new objects of infatuation, its characterized by obsessive/heavy rumination around whether or not your current partner is up to your standards, whether or not your feelings for them are real, what exactly those feelings are, etc. If that doesn't apply, probably not worth looking into....

interesting.. i do that whole rumination often in my relationships which i attribute to just me being a virgo.. it amazes me how i go from romanticizing/pedestaling someone then overanalyzing the romance out of it.. like filling a glass with water then pouring it down the drain then repeating the cycle over again which gives the illusion of my feelings changing so i don't get bored lmao

but it's probably just my nervous disposition.. i've learned that my crushes are always so light.. that i'm almost playful about it but my love is obsession yet also can in a moment be.. generously sacrificial

my virgo sun is in the 12th even if my moon is in the 8th.. my innards seem suffocating but in practice, i give almost too much space
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I do the same. All the back and forth in my head...which shows and the other person can never read me and thinks I'm not into them. idk why I do it either...drive me crazy. I just wanna like/love someone, be sure about it and be able to focus that energy on it.

My actions say that I do but I guess my body language says something else...fuck if I know anymore lol
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Sounds like...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-young-and-the-restless/201109/limerence-when-is-it-more-heartbreak

In these situations the longer it goes on the less it has to do with the actual person who is the object of affection and the more it has to do with the fantasy in the obsessed person's mind.



i got this theory that you can romantically objectify someone.. not even sexually nor physically mind you.. but then you can just as easily discard them for another romantic object of infatuation... which makes it in nature pretty superficial



definitely agree here....I don't see this as being unfaithful though....sometimes the object of your unrequited romantic infatuation really lets you down, like when they don't conform to the imaginary expectations that they don't know you've placed on them, and then you have to switch them out for someone less disappointing....its nothing personal, just that the limerence must go on....



exactly but in my case i don't even want reciprocation.. see not only do i have a pisces moon but it's also in the 8th house and in that persona moon thing i've got scorpio moon lmfao..

it's too dangerous for me to actually have feelings deeper than child-like crushes and almost impossible.. coz that obsession's already over my boyfriend's head, these aren't handouts *crylaughs

like right now i have a new job and will probably have a new crush who i will then discard after a while..



I talk to another Pisces Moon who has this same exact issue....She thinks she has ROCD, which I hadn't heard of previously. I watched a vid on it on youtube, and I think the video actually gave me the condition if I didn't have it before...



damn more possible health conditions i may have lolz



lol....my ex has her masters in community counseling, minored in criminal sociology, and she had to work her way through the major disorders in the DSM (its like the Bible for diagnostic criteria in psych)...she would always say she felt she'd literally manifest the symptoms and start to believe she had every disorder she'd look into in-depth...With ROCD, in addition to constantly finding new objects of infatuation, its characterized by obsessive/heavy rumination around whether or not your current partner is up to your standards, whether or not your feelings for them are real, what exactly those feelings are, etc. If that doesn't apply, probably not worth looking into....



interesting.. i do that whole rumination often in my relationships which i attribute to just me being a virgo.. it amazes me how i go from romanticizing/pedestaling someone then overanalyzing the romance out of it.. like filling a glass with water then pouring it down the drain then repeating the cycle over again which gives the illusion of my feelings changing so i don't get bored lmao

but it's probably just my nervous disposition.. i've learned that my crushes are always so light.. that i'm almost playful about it but my love is obsession yet also can in a moment be.. generously sacrificial

my virgo sun is in the 12th even if my moon is in the 8th.. my innards seem suffocating but in practice, i give almost too much space

I do the same. All the back and forth in my head...which shows and the other person can never read me and thinks I'm not into them. idk why I do it either...drive me crazy. I just wanna like/love someone, be sure about it and be able to focus that energy on it.

My actions say that I do but I guess my body language says something else...treetrunk if I know anymore lol
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I have a habit of over thinking and analyzing my relationship as well...

Virgo moon I guess
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Sounds like...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-young-and-the-restless/201109/limerence-when-is-it-more-heartbreak

In these situations the longer it goes on the less it has to do with the actual person who is the object of affection and the more it has to do with the fantasy in the obsessed person's mind.



i got this theory that you can romantically objectify someone.. not even sexually nor physically mind you.. but then you can just as easily discard them for another romantic object of infatuation... which makes it in nature pretty superficial



definitely agree here....I don't see this as being unfaithful though....sometimes the object of your unrequited romantic infatuation really lets you down, like when they don't conform to the imaginary expectations that they don't know you've placed on them, and then you have to switch them out for someone less disappointing....its nothing personal, just that the limerence must go on....



exactly but in my case i don't even want reciprocation.. see not only do i have a pisces moon but it's also in the 8th house and in that persona moon thing i've got scorpio moon lmfao..

it's too dangerous for me to actually have feelings deeper than child-like crushes and almost impossible.. coz that obsession's already over my boyfriend's head, these aren't handouts *crylaughs

like right now i have a new job and will probably have a new crush who i will then discard after a while..



I talk to another Pisces Moon who has this same exact issue....She thinks she has ROCD, which I hadn't heard of previously. I watched a vid on it on youtube, and I think the video actually gave me the condition if I didn't have it before...



damn more possible health conditions i may have lolz



lol....my ex has her masters in community counseling, minored in criminal sociology, and she had to work her way through the major disorders in the DSM (its like the Bible for diagnostic criteria in psych)...she would always say she felt she'd literally manifest the symptoms and start to believe she had every disorder she'd look into in-depth...With ROCD, in addition to constantly finding new objects of infatuation, its characterized by obsessive/heavy rumination around whether or not your current partner is up to your standards, whether or not your feelings for them are real, what exactly those feelings are, etc. If that doesn't apply, probably not worth looking into....



interesting.. i do that whole rumination often in my relationships which i attribute to just me being a virgo.. it amazes me how i go from romanticizing/pedestaling someone then overanalyzing the romance out of it.. like filling a glass with water then pouring it down the drain then repeating the cycle over again which gives the illusion of my feelings changing so i don't get bored lmao

but it's probably just my nervous disposition.. i've learned that my crushes are always so light.. that i'm almost playful about it but my love is obsession yet also can in a moment be.. generously sacrificial

my virgo sun is in the 12th even if my moon is in the 8th.. my innards seem suffocating but in practice, i give almost too much space



I do the same. All the back and forth in my head...which shows and the other person can never read me and thinks I'm not into them. idk why I do it either...drive me crazy. I just wanna like/love someone, be sure about it and be able to focus that energy on it.

My actions say that I do but I guess my body language says something else...treetrunk if I know anymore lol

I have a habit of over thinking and analyzing my relationship as well...
Virgo moon I guess
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Most likely is the Virgo moon.

It sucks cause I feel/hear/see others just flow in relationships (yeah, they have their problems etc) but its like it come just so natural to them and shit. While I'm over here in my prison I made of going over every detail of things said 6 months ago and wonder if we really shouldn't be together because of it. Then I'm like ok...gonna end it, I feel good about this decision only to change my mind because god only knows why now. Its annoying lol

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-young-and-the-restless/201109/limerence-when-is-it-more-heartbreak

In these situations the longer it goes on the less it has to do with the actual person who is the object of affection and the more it has to do with the fantasy in the obsessed person's mind.



i got this theory that you can romantically objectify someone.. not even sexually nor physically mind you.. but then you can just as easily discard them for another romantic object of infatuation... which makes it in nature pretty superficial



definitely agree here....I don't see this as being unfaithful though....sometimes the object of your unrequited romantic infatuation really lets you down, like when they don't conform to the imaginary expectations that they don't know you've placed on them, and then you have to switch them out for someone less disappointing....its nothing personal, just that the limerence must go on....



exactly but in my case i don't even want reciprocation.. see not only do i have a pisces moon but it's also in the 8th house and in that persona moon thing i've got scorpio moon lmfao..

it's too dangerous for me to actually have feelings deeper than child-like crushes and almost impossible.. coz that obsession's already over my boyfriend's head, these aren't handouts *crylaughs

like right now i have a new job and will probably have a new crush who i will then discard after a while..



I talk to another Pisces Moon who has this same exact issue....She thinks she has ROCD, which I hadn't heard of previously. I watched a vid on it on youtube, and I think the video actually gave me the condition if I didn't have it before...



damn more possible health conditions i may have lolz



lol....my ex has her masters in community counseling, minored in criminal sociology, and she had to work her way through the major disorders in the DSM (its like the Bible for diagnostic criteria in psych)...she would always say she felt she'd literally manifest the symptoms and start to believe she had every disorder she'd look into in-depth...With ROCD, in addition to constantly finding new objects of infatuation, its characterized by obsessive/heavy rumination around whether or not your current partner is up to your standards, whether or not your feelings for them are real, what exactly those feelings are, etc. If that doesn't apply, probably not worth looking into....



interesting.. i do that whole rumination often in my relationships which i attribute to just me being a virgo.. it amazes me how i go from romanticizing/pedestaling someone then overanalyzing the romance out of it.. like filling a glass with water then pouring it down the drain then repeating the cycle over again which gives the illusion of my feelings changing so i don't get bored lmao

but it's probably just my nervous disposition.. i've learned that my crushes are always so light.. that i'm almost playful about it but my love is obsession yet also can in a moment be.. generously sacrificial

my virgo sun is in the 12th even if my moon is in the 8th.. my innards seem suffocating but in practice, i give almost too much space



I do the same. All the back and forth in my head...which shows and the other person can never read me and thinks I'm not into them. idk why I do it either...drive me crazy. I just wanna like/love someone, be sure about it and be able to focus that energy on it.

My actions say that I do but I guess my body language says something else...treetrunk if I know anymore lol



I have a habit of over thinking and analyzing my relationship as well...
Virgo moon I guess

Most likely is the Virgo moon.

It sucks cause I feel/hear/see others just flow in relationships (yeah, they have their problems etc) but its like it come just so natural to them and butter. While I'm over here in my prison I made of going over every detail of things said 6 months ago and wonder if we really shouldn't be together because of it. Then I'm like ok...gonna end it, I feel good about this decision only to change my mind because god only knows why now. Its annoying lol

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Lmao, I thought I was the only one who does this!

Relief that it's not just me...
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In my experience it’s partly their fault and partly their object of affections part.

No one can stay totally into someone where there’s no hope. Some people are honest enough to deter someone, but not count them out entirely. Classic backburner. ‘I don’t want to lead you on... *insert vague leading statements about why they can’t be with them right now*

Because when the person being chased finally find someone someone they truly want, they will definitively cut out the person enamoured by them. And it will normally be harsh enough to sever it totally.

Flipside, when you’re being played most people always kinda realize it. Some part of them knows they’re not engaging in reciprocated love. But the thrill of getting close and the hope that the dream they’ve built up will happen finally keeps driving them. They prefer the idea over the reality. So a part of them actually enjoys the lack of reality.



That's not always true. I had a crush on a guy in high school for four years. He never ever gave me any hope whatsoever.

I'm really glad I didn't get my way on that one, because now I know he is not a smart man. lol



Yeah, true. The OP did say that some of her friends were doing this over people who don't even give them the time of day, though.


I did say who don't give them the time of day, but they aren't crushes. They are people from their past that they have at one point had a romantic connection to.



Right, but in that case, the obsessee is not giving the obsessed false hope.

This is actually the worst situation. I went through it a few times. I blame my Taurus Venus. I love her, but she doesn't like to let go.


Mine I feel gave me false hope
N that I haven’t been able to forgive
Taurus sun was the culprit


Hmmm, idk why I thought you were a Libra.

Interesting that a lot of Taurus are in this discussion.


I’m a Scorpio with Libra stellium
My addiction was a Taurus sun cap moon


Oh read that wrong.

Oh the great love story if Scorpio-Taurus

I believe it's the inspiration for Romeo and Juliet lol

i see that couple everywhere
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I think it's one of the more popular pairing.

It was my longest term relationship.

When it was good it was good, when I fell apart...so much drama
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-young-and-the-restless/201109/limerence-when-is-it-more-heartbreak

In these situations the longer it goes on the less it has to do with the actual person who is the object of affection and the more it has to do with the fantasy in the obsessed person's mind.



i got this theory that you can romantically objectify someone.. not even sexually nor physically mind you.. but then you can just as easily discard them for another romantic object of infatuation... which makes it in nature pretty superficial



definitely agree here....I don't see this as being unfaithful though....sometimes the object of your unrequited romantic infatuation really lets you down, like when they don't conform to the imaginary expectations that they don't know you've placed on them, and then you have to switch them out for someone less disappointing....its nothing personal, just that the limerence must go on....



exactly but in my case i don't even want reciprocation.. see not only do i have a pisces moon but it's also in the 8th house and in that persona moon thing i've got scorpio moon lmfao..

it's too dangerous for me to actually have feelings deeper than child-like crushes and almost impossible.. coz that obsession's already over my boyfriend's head, these aren't handouts *crylaughs

like right now i have a new job and will probably have a new crush who i will then discard after a while..



I talk to another Pisces Moon who has this same exact issue....She thinks she has ROCD, which I hadn't heard of previously. I watched a vid on it on youtube, and I think the video actually gave me the condition if I didn't have it before...



damn more possible health conditions i may have lolz



lol....my ex has her masters in community counseling, minored in criminal sociology, and she had to work her way through the major disorders in the DSM (its like the Bible for diagnostic criteria in psych)...she would always say she felt she'd literally manifest the symptoms and start to believe she had every disorder she'd look into in-depth...With ROCD, in addition to constantly finding new objects of infatuation, its characterized by obsessive/heavy rumination around whether or not your current partner is up to your standards, whether or not your feelings for them are real, what exactly those feelings are, etc. If that doesn't apply, probably not worth looking into....



interesting.. i do that whole rumination often in my relationships which i attribute to just me being a virgo.. it amazes me how i go from romanticizing/pedestaling someone then overanalyzing the romance out of it.. like filling a glass with water then pouring it down the drain then repeating the cycle over again which gives the illusion of my feelings changing so i don't get bored lmao

but it's probably just my nervous disposition.. i've learned that my crushes are always so light.. that i'm almost playful about it but my love is obsession yet also can in a moment be.. generously sacrificial

my virgo sun is in the 12th even if my moon is in the 8th.. my innards seem suffocating but in practice, i give almost too much space



I do the same. All the back and forth in my head...which shows and the other person can never read me and thinks I'm not into them. idk why I do it either...drive me crazy. I just wanna like/love someone, be sure about it and be able to focus that energy on it.

My actions say that I do but I guess my body language says something else...fuck if I know anymore lol

yes i totally understand

my mind burns for things and people but it doesn't always show.. coz if i really love them, they should be free to do as they please... which makes me seem only mildly interested or even cold.. when i'm neck deep on here lolz

until i'm acually expressing my cheesy sentiments into words... i feel like a bunch of virgos are mr. darcy-types but i thought having a fire moon would change that for you
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Yep...exactly that!

I would think it would too but even though the passion is there wanting to burst out when I'm into someone...either my rising or merc rx blocks me from verbalizing and showing it. That's my best guess...

Plus I still like to know for sure before I make a fool out of myself or my ego gets bruised. I really am a mess lol.

It will take a miracle for someone to deal with my ass lol

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-young-and-the-restless/201109/limerence-when-is-it-more-heartbreak

In these situations the longer it goes on the less it has to do with the actual person who is the object of affection and the more it has to do with the fantasy in the obsessed person's mind.



i got this theory that you can romantically objectify someone.. not even sexually nor physically mind you.. but then you can just as easily discard them for another romantic object of infatuation... which makes it in nature pretty superficial



definitely agree here....I don't see this as being unfaithful though....sometimes the object of your unrequited romantic infatuation really lets you down, like when they don't conform to the imaginary expectations that they don't know you've placed on them, and then you have to switch them out for someone less disappointing....its nothing personal, just that the limerence must go on....



exactly but in my case i don't even want reciprocation.. see not only do i have a pisces moon but it's also in the 8th house and in that persona moon thing i've got scorpio moon lmfao..

it's too dangerous for me to actually have feelings deeper than child-like crushes and almost impossible.. coz that obsession's already over my boyfriend's head, these aren't handouts *crylaughs

like right now i have a new job and will probably have a new crush who i will then discard after a while..



I talk to another Pisces Moon who has this same exact issue....She thinks she has ROCD, which I hadn't heard of previously. I watched a vid on it on youtube, and I think the video actually gave me the condition if I didn't have it before...



damn more possible health conditions i may have lolz



lol....my ex has her masters in community counseling, minored in criminal sociology, and she had to work her way through the major disorders in the DSM (its like the Bible for diagnostic criteria in psych)...she would always say she felt she'd literally manifest the symptoms and start to believe she had every disorder she'd look into in-depth...With ROCD, in addition to constantly finding new objects of infatuation, its characterized by obsessive/heavy rumination around whether or not your current partner is up to your standards, whether or not your feelings for them are real, what exactly those feelings are, etc. If that doesn't apply, probably not worth looking into....



interesting.. i do that whole rumination often in my relationships which i attribute to just me being a virgo.. it amazes me how i go from romanticizing/pedestaling someone then overanalyzing the romance out of it.. like filling a glass with water then pouring it down the drain then repeating the cycle over again which gives the illusion of my feelings changing so i don't get bored lmao

but it's probably just my nervous disposition.. i've learned that my crushes are always so light.. that i'm almost playful about it but my love is obsession yet also can in a moment be.. generously sacrificial

my virgo sun is in the 12th even if my moon is in the 8th.. my innards seem suffocating but in practice, i give almost too much space



I do the same. All the back and forth in my head...which shows and the other person can never read me and thinks I'm not into them. idk why I do it either...drive me crazy. I just wanna like/love someone, be sure about it and be able to focus that energy on it.

My actions say that I do but I guess my body language says something else...treetrunk if I know anymore lol



yes i totally understand

my mind burns for things and people but it doesn't always show.. coz if i really love them, they should be free to do as they please... which makes me seem only mildly interested or even cold.. when i'm neck deep on here lolz

until i'm acually expressing my cheesy sentiments into words... i feel like a bunch of virgos are mr. darcy-types but i thought having a fire moon would change that for you

Yep...exactly that!

I would think it would too but even though the passion is there wanting to burst out when I'm into someone...either my rising or merc rx blocks me from verbalizing and showing it. That's my best guess...

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I'm the opposite, I show a lot of love and affection, I'm fully into someone physically but in my mind I'm analyzing everything they say....and once I'm not in their presence I just analyze the shit out of the whole interaction....

I have a nervous disposition
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-young-and-the-restless/201109/limerence-when-is-it-more-heartbreak

In these situations the longer it goes on the less it has to do with the actual person who is the object of affection and the more it has to do with the fantasy in the obsessed person's mind.



i got this theory that you can romantically objectify someone.. not even sexually nor physically mind you.. but then you can just as easily discard them for another romantic object of infatuation... which makes it in nature pretty superficial



definitely agree here....I don't see this as being unfaithful though....sometimes the object of your unrequited romantic infatuation really lets you down, like when they don't conform to the imaginary expectations that they don't know you've placed on them, and then you have to switch them out for someone less disappointing....its nothing personal, just that the limerence must go on....



exactly but in my case i don't even want reciprocation.. see not only do i have a pisces moon but it's also in the 8th house and in that persona moon thing i've got scorpio moon lmfao..

it's too dangerous for me to actually have feelings deeper than child-like crushes and almost impossible.. coz that obsession's already over my boyfriend's head, these aren't handouts *crylaughs

like right now i have a new job and will probably have a new crush who i will then discard after a while..



I talk to another Pisces Moon who has this same exact issue....She thinks she has ROCD, which I hadn't heard of previously. I watched a vid on it on youtube, and I think the video actually gave me the condition if I didn't have it before...



damn more possible health conditions i may have lolz



lol....my ex has her masters in community counseling, minored in criminal sociology, and she had to work her way through the major disorders in the DSM (its like the Bible for diagnostic criteria in psych)...she would always say she felt she'd literally manifest the symptoms and start to believe she had every disorder she'd look into in-depth...With ROCD, in addition to constantly finding new objects of infatuation, its characterized by obsessive/heavy rumination around whether or not your current partner is up to your standards, whether or not your feelings for them are real, what exactly those feelings are, etc. If that doesn't apply, probably not worth looking into....



interesting.. i do that whole rumination often in my relationships which i attribute to just me being a virgo.. it amazes me how i go from romanticizing/pedestaling someone then overanalyzing the romance out of it.. like filling a glass with water then pouring it down the drain then repeating the cycle over again which gives the illusion of my feelings changing so i don't get bored lmao

but it's probably just my nervous disposition.. i've learned that my crushes are always so light.. that i'm almost playful about it but my love is obsession yet also can in a moment be.. generously sacrificial

my virgo sun is in the 12th even if my moon is in the 8th.. my innards seem suffocating but in practice, i give almost too much space



I do the same. All the back and forth in my head...which shows and the other person can never read me and thinks I'm not into them. idk why I do it either...drive me crazy. I just wanna like/love someone, be sure about it and be able to focus that energy on it.

My actions say that I do but I guess my body language says something else...treetrunk if I know anymore lol



yes i totally understand

my mind burns for things and people but it doesn't always show.. coz if i really love them, they should be free to do as they please... which makes me seem only mildly interested or even cold.. when i'm neck deep on here lolz

until i'm acually expressing my cheesy sentiments into words... i feel like a bunch of virgos are mr. darcy-types but i thought having a fire moon would change that for you



Yep...exactly that!

I would think it would too but even though the passion is there wanting to burst out when I'm into someone...either my rising or merc rx blocks me from verbalizing and showing it. That's my best guess...
I'm the opposite, I show a lot of love and affection, I'm fully into someone physically but in my mind I'm analyzing everything they say....and once I'm not in their presence I just analyze the shit out of the whole interaction....
I have a nervous disposition
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Makes sense...this right here is def a good example of the difference between Sun and Moon. Even though Sun's live in their heads...it also tends to show on the outside where you internalize it all.
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-young-and-the-restless/201109/limerence-when-is-it-more-heartbreak

In these situations the longer it goes on the less it has to do with the actual person who is the object of affection and the more it has to do with the fantasy in the obsessed person's mind.



i got this theory that you can romantically objectify someone.. not even sexually nor physically mind you.. but then you can just as easily discard them for another romantic object of infatuation... which makes it in nature pretty superficial



definitely agree here....I don't see this as being unfaithful though....sometimes the object of your unrequited romantic infatuation really lets you down, like when they don't conform to the imaginary expectations that they don't know you've placed on them, and then you have to switch them out for someone less disappointing....its nothing personal, just that the limerence must go on....



exactly but in my case i don't even want reciprocation.. see not only do i have a pisces moon but it's also in the 8th house and in that persona moon thing i've got scorpio moon lmfao..

it's too dangerous for me to actually have feelings deeper than child-like crushes and almost impossible.. coz that obsession's already over my boyfriend's head, these aren't handouts *crylaughs

like right now i have a new job and will probably have a new crush who i will then discard after a while..



I talk to another Pisces Moon who has this same exact issue....She thinks she has ROCD, which I hadn't heard of previously. I watched a vid on it on youtube, and I think the video actually gave me the condition if I didn't have it before...



damn more possible health conditions i may have lolz



lol....my ex has her masters in community counseling, minored in criminal sociology, and she had to work her way through the major disorders in the DSM (its like the Bible for diagnostic criteria in psych)...she would always say she felt she'd literally manifest the symptoms and start to believe she had every disorder she'd look into in-depth...With ROCD, in addition to constantly finding new objects of infatuation, its characterized by obsessive/heavy rumination around whether or not your current partner is up to your standards, whether or not your feelings for them are real, what exactly those feelings are, etc. If that doesn't apply, probably not worth looking into....



interesting.. i do that whole rumination often in my relationships which i attribute to just me being a virgo.. it amazes me how i go from romanticizing/pedestaling someone then overanalyzing the romance out of it.. like filling a glass with water then pouring it down the drain then repeating the cycle over again which gives the illusion of my feelings changing so i don't get bored lmao

but it's probably just my nervous disposition.. i've learned that my crushes are always so light.. that i'm almost playful about it but my love is obsession yet also can in a moment be.. generously sacrificial

my virgo sun is in the 12th even if my moon is in the 8th.. my innards seem suffocating but in practice, i give almost too much space



I do the same. All the back and forth in my head...which shows and the other person can never read me and thinks I'm not into them. idk why I do it either...drive me crazy. I just wanna like/love someone, be sure about it and be able to focus that energy on it.

My actions say that I do but I guess my body language says something else...fuck if I know anymore lol



yes i totally understand

my mind burns for things and people but it doesn't always show.. coz if i really love them, they should be free to do as they please... which makes me seem only mildly interested or even cold.. when i'm neck deep on here lolz

until i'm acually expressing my cheesy sentiments into words... i feel like a bunch of virgos are mr. darcy-types but i thought having a fire moon would change that for you



Yep...exactly that!

I would think it would too but even though the passion is there wanting to burst out when I'm into someone...either my rising or merc rx blocks me from verbalizing and showing it. That's my best guess...

Plus I still like to know for sure before I make a fool out of myself or my ego gets bruised. I really am a mess lol.
It will take a miracle for someone to deal with my ass lol

i think we need someone more sentimental coz when we go confessing stuff, it's gets too earnest.. some folks can't handle that
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I honestly think no one can handle me...half the time I cant handle my own damn self lol
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-young-and-the-restless/201109/limerence-when-is-it-more-heartbreak

In these situations the longer it goes on the less it has to do with the actual person who is the object of affection and the more it has to do with the fantasy in the obsessed person's mind.



i got this theory that you can romantically objectify someone.. not even sexually nor physically mind you.. but then you can just as easily discard them for another romantic object of infatuation... which makes it in nature pretty superficial



definitely agree here....I don't see this as being unfaithful though....sometimes the object of your unrequited romantic infatuation really lets you down, like when they don't conform to the imaginary expectations that they don't know you've placed on them, and then you have to switch them out for someone less disappointing....its nothing personal, just that the limerence must go on....



exactly but in my case i don't even want reciprocation.. see not only do i have a pisces moon but it's also in the 8th house and in that persona moon thing i've got scorpio moon lmfao..

it's too dangerous for me to actually have feelings deeper than child-like crushes and almost impossible.. coz that obsession's already over my boyfriend's head, these aren't handouts *crylaughs

like right now i have a new job and will probably have a new crush who i will then discard after a while..



I talk to another Pisces Moon who has this same exact issue....She thinks she has ROCD, which I hadn't heard of previously. I watched a vid on it on youtube, and I think the video actually gave me the condition if I didn't have it before...



damn more possible health conditions i may have lolz



lol....my ex has her masters in community counseling, minored in criminal sociology, and she had to work her way through the major disorders in the DSM (its like the Bible for diagnostic criteria in psych)...she would always say she felt she'd literally manifest the symptoms and start to believe she had every disorder she'd look into in-depth...With ROCD, in addition to constantly finding new objects of infatuation, its characterized by obsessive/heavy rumination around whether or not your current partner is up to your standards, whether or not your feelings for them are real, what exactly those feelings are, etc. If that doesn't apply, probably not worth looking into....



interesting.. i do that whole rumination often in my relationships which i attribute to just me being a virgo.. it amazes me how i go from romanticizing/pedestaling someone then overanalyzing the romance out of it.. like filling a glass with water then pouring it down the drain then repeating the cycle over again which gives the illusion of my feelings changing so i don't get bored lmao

but it's probably just my nervous disposition.. i've learned that my crushes are always so light.. that i'm almost playful about it but my love is obsession yet also can in a moment be.. generously sacrificial

my virgo sun is in the 12th even if my moon is in the 8th.. my innards seem suffocating but in practice, i give almost too much space



I do the same. All the back and forth in my head...which shows and the other person can never read me and thinks I'm not into them. idk why I do it either...drive me crazy. I just wanna like/love someone, be sure about it and be able to focus that energy on it.

My actions say that I do but I guess my body language says something else...fuck if I know anymore lol



yes i totally understand

my mind burns for things and people but it doesn't always show.. coz if i really love them, they should be free to do as they please... which makes me seem only mildly interested or even cold.. when i'm neck deep on here lolz

until i'm acually expressing my cheesy sentiments into words... i feel like a bunch of virgos are mr. darcy-types but i thought having a fire moon would change that for you



Yep...exactly that!

I would think it would too but even though the passion is there wanting to burst out when I'm into someone...either my rising or merc rx blocks me from verbalizing and showing it. That's my best guess...

Plus I still like to know for sure before I make a fool out of myself or my ego gets bruised. I really am a mess lol.
It will take a miracle for someone to deal with my ass lol



i think we need someone more sentimental coz when we go confessing stuff, it's gets too earnest.. some folks can't handle that



I honestly think no one can handle me...half the time I cant handle my own damn self lol

most days i think that too
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The other "love" story is that of my Libra friend and a male leo, who is a drug addict and basically uses her for sex.

When he gets too coked up, beats her and. brusises her. Knocked her up, forced her to have an abortion. He disappeared for 6 months, and when he texted her she was out the door and in his bed in seconds flat.

She talks about him "once he gets himself cleaned up, he's going to marry me. He's the only man I ever loved"

Right now he's gone...been a month a d shes like Eore.

Why do smart people do this to themselves?!!
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Sounds like...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-young-and-the-restless/201109/limerence-when-is-it-more-heartbreak

In these situations the longer it goes on the less it has to do with the actual person who is the object of affection and the more it has to do with the fantasy in the obsessed person's mind.



i got this theory that you can romantically objectify someone.. not even sexually nor physically mind you.. but then you can just as easily discard them for another romantic object of infatuation... which makes it in nature pretty superficial



definitely agree here....I don't see this as being unfaithful though....sometimes the object of your unrequited romantic infatuation really lets you down, like when they don't conform to the imaginary expectations that they don't know you've placed on them, and then you have to switch them out for someone less disappointing....its nothing personal, just that the limerence must go on....



exactly but in my case i don't even want reciprocation.. see not only do i have a pisces moon but it's also in the 8th house and in that persona moon thing i've got scorpio moon lmfao..

it's too dangerous for me to actually have feelings deeper than child-like crushes and almost impossible.. coz that obsession's already over my boyfriend's head, these aren't handouts *crylaughs

like right now i have a new job and will probably have a new crush who i will then discard after a while..



I talk to another Pisces Moon who has this same exact issue....She thinks she has ROCD, which I hadn't heard of previously. I watched a vid on it on youtube, and I think the video actually gave me the condition if I didn't have it before...



damn more possible health conditions i may have lolz



lol....my ex has her masters in community counseling, minored in criminal sociology, and she had to work her way through the major disorders in the DSM (its like the Bible for diagnostic criteria in psych)...she would always say she felt she'd literally manifest the symptoms and start to believe she had every disorder she'd look into in-depth...With ROCD, in addition to constantly finding new objects of infatuation, its characterized by obsessive/heavy rumination around whether or not your current partner is up to your standards, whether or not your feelings for them are real, what exactly those feelings are, etc. If that doesn't apply, probably not worth looking into....

interesting.. i do that whole rumination often in my relationships which i attribute to just me being a virgo.. it amazes me how i go from romanticizing/pedestaling someone then overanalyzing the romance out of it.. like filling a glass with water then pouring it down the drain then repeating the cycle over again which gives the illusion of my feelings changing so i don't get bored lmao

but it's probably just my nervous disposition.. i've learned that my crushes are always so light.. that i'm almost playful about it but my love is obsession yet also can in a moment be.. generously sacrificial

my virgo sun is in the 12th even if my moon is in the 8th.. my innards seem suffocating but in practice, i give almost too much space
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the bold espec., just sounds like standard fare for your moon.....I can def. relate to some of this though......I have venus opp. neptune and would be ashamed to admit the degree to which I put a romantic interest on a pedestal. My crushes are not light though, and words like deification and worship come to mind w/no exaggeration....Reality sets in at some point, but in my memory of them, I'm pretty loyal to that vision I had of them at their best. I guess its like the "higher self" concept some New Agers hold to - where I believe that people are under all sorts of constraints in this life, but their highest potential, especially under favorable circumstances like the love of another, is actually closer to their essence. Its very idealistic but I can fall in love with someone in that sense, just off seeing glimpses of what or who I feel they could be.

Even if I can't maintain the romantic interest, at a minimum I always respect them, and am impressed with their ability to make me feel so much and get so high on the pedestal....Its a bit of a puzzle though. Some of my deepest emotional experiences have been with these kinds of impossible infatuations that never become concrete....perhaps that's why so many people get stuck here, and even prefer to stay. Its a space of possibility w/a person that's wide open, and the lack of that familiarity and monotony of regular/real interaction lends itself well to all of the idealism and romanticism....

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My imagination was filling in all the blanks when I couldn't connect with the person. It was basically like having a deep romantic relationship with myself and another person's face standing in for the other me.


great way to describe it, and similar to what I just wrote....I think the tendency to mirror is greater in early phases of interest as well, so the likelihood of both seeing mostly their own reflection or at least projections is high....still think there's a lot to be said for this kind of experience though....Its imaginative and creative at the least, a break from the boredom, and I think we often forget that creative expression is the other aspect to venus...IMO romance in many ways is really just being creative around love....Its a beautiful thing when someone activates your venus in that way, becomes your muse, and those creative sides to you just come to life, even if it ends in tragedy....Just even watching others in the midst of a crush, its a sight to behold to see the blossoming of their humor, intellect, creativity, and pretty much every aspect that would attract....

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maybe narcissistic's not a good term..
an 'instrument of self-discovery' sounds better.. instead of 'losing yourself' in someone else maybe it's actually 'finding a better you' in another.. i once made a thread on here in my first ever account about how i feel like he and i are acquiring traits of each other through the years.. maybe it just starts to get irritating to look at yourself sometimes lolz


busy day, have to head back to work but hopefully can comment more later....interesting thread....I really like the "self discovery" bit here, and even more so the "better you". I think we become a different person to an extent in any relationship....People often say they don't want to lose who they are, but its inevitable to a degree. If you retain enough of a sense of your old self and values though, to dislike the person you're becoming, that's when you should be seeing it as a red flag IMO....

just one thing also I always note is that there's a healthy degree of narcissism most people possess, without actually having the full-blown disorder, so I don't automatically interpret the word in a negative light:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201201/the-healthy-side-narcissism

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My imagination was filling in all the blanks when I couldn't connect with the person. It was basically like having a deep romantic relationship with myself and another person's face standing in for the other me.



great way to describe it, and similar to what I just wrote....I think the tendency to mirror is greater in early phases of interest as well, so the likelihood of both seeing mostly their own reflection or at least projections is high....still think there's a lot to be said for this kind of experience though....Its imaginative and creative at the least, a break from the boredom, and I think we often forget that creative expression is the other aspect to venus...IMO romance in many ways is really just being creative around love....Its a beautiful thing when someone activates your venus in that way, becomes your muse, and those creative sides to you just come to life, even if it ends in tragedy....Just even watching others in the midst of a crush, its a sight to behold to see the blossoming of their humor, intellect, creativity, and pretty much every aspect that would attract....

it started out that the shiniest, brightest things about myself i love in him..

but then he started to exhibit MY other traits that i don't like so much.. the adherance to schedules, to specifics and keeping to promises i'd now rather run from..

used to be years ago that he was more chill but now i'm the one always late, falling asleep and forgetting keys all over the place like i turned into him almost..

i still overthink but not as bad as i used to.. and he's not as 'whatever goes' as he used to be.. relationships are so interesting
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yes....I'm amazed by how much I change and grow from the relationships I've been in, friendship or otherwise....there's a marvel character named the Isolationist (Josef Huber) who mimics other mutants and absorbs their powers, and I tend to see relationships this way lol....there's always something in a partner I respect/admire, and want to emulate and hold onto even beyond the connection....I actually tend to see it as carrying around a part of their soul with me....I really think just being around another person's energy often enough can teach you to regulate negative aspects of your own - whether tendencies towards worry, sadness, etc....
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My imagination was filling in all the blanks when I couldn't connect with the person. It was basically like having a deep romantic relationship with myself and another person's face standing in for the other me.



great way to describe it, and similar to what I just wrote....I think the tendency to mirror is greater in early phases of interest as well, so the likelihood of both seeing mostly their own reflection or at least projections is high....still think there's a lot to be said for this kind of experience though....Its imaginative and creative at the least, a break from the boredom, and I think we often forget that creative expression is the other aspect to venus...IMO romance in many ways is really just being creative around love....Its a beautiful thing when someone activates your venus in that way, becomes your muse, and those creative sides to you just come to life, even if it ends in tragedy....Just even watching others in the midst of a crush, its a sight to behold to see the blossoming of their humor, intellect, creativity, and pretty much every aspect that would attract....



it started out that the shiniest, brightest things about myself i love in him..

but then he started to exhibit MY other traits that i don't like so much.. the adherance to schedules, to specifics and keeping to promises i'd now rather run from..

used to be years ago that he was more chill but now i'm the one always late, falling asleep and forgetting keys all over the place like i turned into him almost..

i still overthink but not as bad as i used to.. and he's not as 'whatever goes' as he used to be.. relationships are so interesting



yes....I'm amazed by how much I change and grow from the relationships I've been in, friendship or otherwise....there's a marvel character named the Isolationist (Josef Huber) who mimics other mutants and absorbs their powers, and I tend to see relationships this way lol....there's always something in a partner I respect/admire, and want to emulate and hold onto even beyond the connection....I actually tend to see it as carrying around a part of their soul with me....I really think just being around another person's energy often enough can teach you to regulate negative aspects of your own - whether tendencies towards worry, sadness, etc....

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My imagination was filling in all the blanks when I couldn't connect with the person. It was basically like having a deep romantic relationship with myself and another person's face standing in for the other me.



great way to describe it, and similar to what I just wrote....I think the tendency to mirror is greater in early phases of interest as well, so the likelihood of both seeing mostly their own reflection or at least projections is high....still think there's a lot to be said for this kind of experience though....Its imaginative and creative at the least, a break from the boredom, and I think we often forget that creative expression is the other aspect to venus...IMO romance in many ways is really just being creative around love....Its a beautiful thing when someone activates your venus in that way, becomes your muse, and those creative sides to you just come to life, even if it ends in tragedy....Just even watching others in the midst of a crush, its a sight to behold to see the blossoming of their humor, intellect, creativity, and pretty much every aspect that would attract....

I do feel like my life is richer for having had the experiences. That's not to say I would ever willingly do it again. When I've been in a state of limerence I was miserable from the time I woke until the time I went to sleep with only the briefest periods of relief. I lost weight. My heath suffered. My school or job performance suffered. I stopped being able to write or paint or other things I love because every single thing other thing was crowded out. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Jesus, I'm so dramatic. lol It's true, though. I can laugh at it now because I'm not in that state.
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yeah, all that is the downside...lol...for me, that has been mainly the tail end of it....I tend to see them as really intense/condensed experiences of love....Just the way my obsessions breathe life into the music I listen to (and find) alone, is worth the crash to me hahaha....alright gotta run....
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maybe narcissistic's not a good term..
an 'instrument of self-discovery' sounds better.. instead of 'losing yourself' in someone else maybe it's actually 'finding a better you' in another.. i once made a thread on here in my first ever account about how i feel like he and i are acquiring traits of each other through the years.. maybe it just starts to get irritating to look at yourself sometimes lolz



busy day, have to head back to work but hopefully can comment more later....interesting thread....I really like the "self discovery" bit here, and even more so the "better you". I think we become a different person to an extent in any relationship....People often say they don't want to lose who they are, but its inevitable to a degree. If you retain enough of a sense of your old self and values though, to dislike the person you're becoming, that's when you should be seeing it as a red flag IMO....

just one thing also I always note is that there's a healthy degree of narcissism most people possess, without actually having the full-blown disorder, so I don't automatically interpret the word in a negative light:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201201/the-healthy-side-narcissism
So what does it mean
When I looked into his eye I saw the most beautiful being
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..."the eye's are the windows to

your....Face"