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You guys are really reaching.

It’s simple. They were both a toxic dv combination. Add the stress of road tripping, her ocd, his need for dominance etc., and you will have a pressure cooker where one finishes the other.

It’s usually the man unless the woman has a gun.

Now put all this effort and attention into all the non-white women that have gone missing and you won’t seem so unbalanced and ridiculous
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@Gobbie

Are you a male domestic violence survivor? Or did the video of the Laundrie having scratches on his face set you off?

You said that there are as many domestic violent female offenders as there are domestic violent male offenders. I don’t believe that.

Do you not realize how often females get physical with their bfs without it being returned or reported since we just kind of brush it off?

With brushing it off and not reporting it, men have only themselves to blame for the lack of resources/mens shelters in the UK.

There are a lot of resources/mens only shelters here in the states to help men. Maybe they report it here more? I dated a guy in my earlier years who told me that if a woman hits him, he calls the police.
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No there aren't "a lot of resources", there's a whole documentary on it. What reality do you live in?

Also then, I would assume women who are victims of domestic violence have themselves to blame for staying with violent men?
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Posted by Moloko_vellocet

You guys are really reaching.

It’s simple. They were both a toxic dv combination. Add the stress of road tripping, her ocd, his need for dominance etc., and you will have a pressure cooker where one finishes the other.

It’s usually the man unless the woman has a gun.

Now put all this effort and attention into all the non-white women that have gone missing and you won’t seem so unbalanced and ridiculous

Stop right there! OCD, need for dominance and a road trip ARE NOT reasons to kill a human being!

As for white, non-white issue, nobody can control the media. Why aren’t you taking such an interest in a different case, start a frenzy? Have you ever? Besides, media attention is not always a good thing, it can actually seriously hinder the investigation or the search, due to many red herrings.

Stop being jealous of a poor young girl death! As if she was lucky to get this attention or something! FFS, she’s dead! People like you, turning this tragedy into an agenda to create discord due to something completely different and irrelevant for this story, be it racial or gender discrimination, without anything else to say, should stay away from this thread!

SMH
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@Gobbie

Are you a male domestic violence survivor? Or did the video of the Laundrie having scratches on his face set you off?

You said that there are as many domestic violent female offenders as there are domestic violent male offenders. I don’t believe that.

Do you not realize how often females get physical with their bfs without it being returned or reported since we just kind of brush it off?

With brushing it off and not reporting it, men have only themselves to blame for the lack of resources/mens shelters in the UK.

There are a lot of resources/mens only shelters here in the states to help men. Maybe they report it here more? I dated a guy in my earlier years who told me that if a woman hits him, he calls the police.

No there aren't "a lot of resources", there's a whole documentary on it. What reality do you live in?

Also then, I would assume women who are victims of domestic violence have themselves to blame for staying with violent men?
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Wow read up on basic understanding of dv

These are what professionals know about it.

https://www.peaceoverviolence.org/iii-the-cycle-of-violence-and-power-and-control
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@Gobbie

Are you a male domestic violence survivor? Or did the video of the Laundrie having scratches on his face set you off?

You said that there are as many domestic violent female offenders as there are domestic violent male offenders. I don’t believe that.

Do you not realize how often females get physical with their bfs without it being returned or reported since we just kind of brush it off?

With brushing it off and not reporting it, men have only themselves to blame for the lack of resources/mens shelters in the UK.

There are a lot of resources/mens only shelters here in the states to help men. Maybe they report it here more? I dated a guy in my earlier years who told me that if a woman hits him, he calls the police.

No there aren't "a lot of resources", there's a whole documentary on it. What reality do you live in?

Also then, I would assume women who are victims of domestic violence have themselves to blame for staying with violent men?

Wow read up on basic understanding of dv

These are what professionals know about it.

https://www.peaceoverviolence.org/iii-the-cycle-of-violence-and-power-and-control<div class="bqfade">click to expand


What exactly is it in my post that indicates that I don't know the domestic violence 101 pamplet ,or you just felt like posting it to feel important?
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Brian Laundrie considers himself a survivalist, and has went through some training. All of that Saturn energy and his isolated moon probably contribute to this. I think he thinks he can make it out there in the wild. I bet he is in that reserve.

And, I don't think he killed anyone else. Three vulnerable locations in any ones astro chart are their 1) Saturn placement, 2) Chiron, and 3) South Node of the moon placements. Gabby has personal planets triggering all 3 of these (his Chiron is in Scorpio/ might be with her mars). Being away from structure and routine (ie driving across the country) only heightened his insecurities.
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You guys are really reaching.

It’s simple. They were both a toxic dv combination. Add the stress of road tripping, her ocd, his need for dominance etc., and you will have a pressure cooker where one finishes the other.

It’s usually the man unless the woman has a gun.

Now put all this effort and attention into all the non-white women that have gone missing and you won’t seem so unbalanced and ridiculous

but if you watch the police footage she in no way was a "toxic" female, she more than likely suffered under him, that's why she was sticking around him to hope he would change...
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It’s a combination. If she stuck around, he could feed off of her and twist her. If she gets pushed to the edge and fights back he uses this to play victim. And then she cries and feels worthless. Then the guilt trips. Then the praise and the reward and then it happens all over again.

It’s a combination. It doesn’t matter if she’s the innocent one, she’s what he feeds off of if he is in fact the full abuser. Usually these types of push and pull relationships turn each other into the same cycle.
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You guys are really reaching.

It’s simple. They were both a toxic dv combination. Add the stress of road tripping, her ocd, his need for dominance etc., and you will have a pressure cooker where one finishes the other.

It’s usually the man unless the woman has a gun.

Now put all this effort and attention into all the non-white women that have gone missing and you won’t seem so unbalanced and ridiculous

Stop right there! OCD, need for dominance and a road trip ARE NOT reasons to kill a human being!

As for white, non-white issue, nobody can control the media. Why aren’t you taking such an interest in a different case, start a frenzy? Have you ever? Besides, media attention is not always a good thing, it can actually seriously hinder the investigation or the search, due to many red herrings.

Stop being jealous of a poor young girl death! As if she was lucky to get this attention or something! FFS, she’s dead! People like you, turning this tragedy into an agenda to create discord due to something completely different and irrelevant for this story, be it racial or gender discrimination, without anything else to say, should stay away from this thread!

SMH
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You’re nuts.

Jealous of what? I’m a gay brown male.

I have friends that have gone missing and none such a peep from the media.

You’ve done fuvk all but sat on your fat white ass obsessed over a missing white girl internet soap opera.

Imagine you put that energy into all the missing indigenous girls/women that go missing in Canada/USA each year.

My family would thank you.

Instead you think my advocacy is jealousy?

Stupid white woman.

Always trying to make it about you when there’s 1000s of my kind that are never heard from again.

You’re embarrassing.



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You guys are really reaching.

It’s simple. They were both a toxic dv combination. Add the stress of road tripping, her ocd, his need for dominance etc., and you will have a pressure cooker where one finishes the other.

It’s usually the man unless the woman has a gun.

Now put all this effort and attention into all the non-white women that have gone missing and you won’t seem so unbalanced and ridiculous

but if you watch the police footage she in no way was a "toxic" female, she more than likely suffered under him, that's why she was sticking around him to hope he would change...

It’s a combination. If she stuck around, he could feed off of her and twist her. If she gets pushed to the edge and fights back he uses this to play victim. And then she cries and feels worthless. Then the guilt trips. Then the praise and the reward and then it happens all over again.

It’s a combination. It doesn’t matter if she’s the innocent one, she’s what he feeds off of if he is in fact the full abuser. Usually these types of push and pull relationships turn each other into the same cycle.

right but in no way was she toxic. I'll give you they were in the domestic violence wheel when it came to their relationship but sadly she just doesn't give me the vibe of perpetuating her death. Brian (the bf) on the other hand seemed way more "toxic" to the point that he appears to have been the actual source for the toxicity between them. She said it all started with him coming in the van with his dirty feet 😒. Imagine having to live in a van with 🔼...he just needs to come forward and let the cops do their job!
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Yeah I don’t think she perpetuated anything, but from his perspective, she did. I’m sure she’s his scapegoat for his behaviour and he sees her in a way that excludes his shitty behaviour. If they’re both hitting each other, they’re stuck in that cycle
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Posted by Moloko_vellocet

You guys are really reaching.

It’s simple. They were both a toxic dv combination. Add the stress of road tripping, her ocd, his need for dominance etc., and you will have a pressure cooker where one finishes the other.

It’s usually the man unless the woman has a gun.

Now put all this effort and attention into all the non-white women that have gone missing and you won’t seem so unbalanced and ridiculous

but if you watch the police footage she in no way was a "toxic" female, she more than likely suffered under him, that's why she was sticking around him to hope he would change...

It’s a combination. If she stuck around, he could feed off of her and twist her. If she gets pushed to the edge and fights back he uses this to play victim. And then she cries and feels worthless. Then the guilt trips. Then the praise and the reward and then it happens all over again.

It’s a combination. It doesn’t matter if she’s the innocent one, she’s what he feeds off of if he is in fact the full abuser. Usually these types of push and pull relationships turn each other into the same cycle.

right but in no way was she toxic. I'll give you they were in the domestic violence wheel when it came to their relationship but sadly she just doesn't give me the vibe of perpetuating her death. Brian (the bf) on the other hand seemed way more "toxic" to the point that he appears to have been the actual source for the toxicity between them. She said it all started with him coming in the van with his dirty feet 😒. Imagine having to live in a van with 🔼...he just needs to come forward and let the cops do their job!

Yeah I don’t think she perpetuated anything, but from his perspective, she did. I’m sure she’s his scapegoat for his behaviour and he sees her in a way that excludes his shitty behaviour. If they’re both hitting each other, they’re stuck in that cycle

YES. also thanks for reminding me, yes they both hit each other but again I never denied they were in a cycle I'm just driving home the point that that girl was not toxic. She was smart and had a bright future ahead of her, what 22 year Olds own a sprinter van?!,!,! You should watch what you say next time that's all I'm saying.
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Their relationship was toxic. Again, it’s a combination. You’re trying to create drama when there is no drama.

Her alone is not toxic.

The combination of vampire and feeder is toxic. Look up narcissistic relationships.

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Long ass weekend but finally circling back here.

A few things…

Firstly FBI specifically confiscated items with Brian’s DNA. Here’s the thing, obviously Gabby would have Brian’s DNA on her. That’s her fiancé after all, nothing suspicious there. Now if there was skin cells under her fingernails or left in strangulation marks on her neck for example that could point to incriminating him. But otherwise not very compelling.

Which leads me to believe perhaps using it to rule him out (or in) for the murders of Crystal and Kylen who were sexually assaulted.



And additionally new audio released from dispatch records confirms the responding officers WERE told prior to the stop that Brian was seen hitting and slapping Gabby and was the aggressor.

Under Utah law, in a domestic dispute situation police must make an arrest or issue a citation when they have “probable cause to believe that an act of domestic violence has been committed“.

However they acted as if Gabby was the aggressor and actually considered and discussed charges against her. They manipulated the situation in order to not take him into custody, literally victim blaming.

Huge breach of department policy. Would she still be alive if they had arrested him per the law? Difficult to say.

But ultimately just another drop in the bucket of incompetent cops failing to perform their job.
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@LadyNeptune look at the comments I came across a slow mo of the front placing both Brian N gabby inside!! you can see Brian putting his hands underneath gabbys two arms and they look lifeless.

I'm watching it rn, hard to see really. The longer you look the more your brain fills in the images.
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I figure I’ll post on comments the outline of his head arms her arms @undine said it looked like she was tied up

I sent u a DM with picture link
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@LadyNeptune look at the comments I came across a slow mo of the front placing both Brian N gabby inside!! you can see Brian putting his hands underneath gabbys two arms and they look lifeless.

I'm watching it rn, hard to see really. The longer you look the more your brain fills in the images.

I figure I’ll post on comments the outline of his head arms her arms undime said it looked like she was tied up

I sent u a DM with picture link
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My DMs are closed ever since certain users here like to create troll accounts and send threatening and gross messages to me. But yeah... the video is showing the drawn on outline. I'm still watching it.

They just need to find him already!
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Another thing that really bothers me about Brian and his parents.

Lawyering up is a smart move and not an indicator of guilt. And being advised to not do interviews with media or speak with Police, also a good move in case you say something incriminating or act in a way that incites the public ire... grief doesn't look the same on everyone.

However you absolutely can have your attorney put out a statement and address the media... example "Brian hasn't seen Gabby since xdate, we are co-operating with police and wish her to be found safely and as soon as possible".

This is his gf and fiancé and future mother of his children, why wouldn't he want her to be found if he is innocent?

Same thing in responding to her family. Hey haven't seen her since this time, we went our separate way and she said she was headed over to x. Sorry I can't be more helpful. Instead they ignored her parents pleas for information for 10 days. Thats literally evil.



Then look at his parents. They reported him missing. If your child is missing (and I don't have kids but) I'd imagine you make a public plea on the media for him to return/found safely. You are out there every day with investigators walking the swamp looking for him. Right?

But they seem unbothered that he is missing. Instead its business as usual sprinkled with some visits to their lawyer. Its almost as if they already know where he is and they know he's not missing or in a dangerous swamp filled with unstable terrain and predators.

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I mentioned last week the parents met with their lawyer in Orlando on Thursday. They were also spotted stopping at a public library on their return trip home.

But why?

My guess, getting anonymous access to a computer to contact Brian on his burner phone.


I believe it. The parents know a lot more than they are saying. This all just stinks to high heaven—bc an innocent person doesn’t go on the run like this, not in this kind of situation. Js the actions speak rather loudly.
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I mentioned last week the parents met with their lawyer in Orlando on Thursday. They were also spotted stopping at a public library on their return trip home.

But why?

My guess, getting anonymous access to a computer to contact Brian on his burner phone.


Looking up countries he can escape to without extradition laws too. Can't have that in your internet search history!
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Brian's mom called the cops on Dog the Bounty hunter. LMAO

That pos, is just trying to get some publicity and attention off someone else tragedy. Gross.

As if they haven't wasted enough police resources and our tax dollars misdirecting investigators to an empty swamp. Smh
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lol, I ain't gonna blame a mother for doing anything other then what she thought was in the best interest of her child, especially if she shes the kind of mother that raised someone that would kill people.
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Brian's mom called the cops on Dog the Bounty hunter. LMAO

That pos, is just trying to get some publicity and attention off someone else tragedy. Gross.

As if they haven't wasted enough police resources and our tax dollars misdirecting investigators to an empty swamp. Smh

lol, I ain't gonna blame a mother for doing anything other then what she thought was in the best interest of her child, especially if she shes the kind of mother that raised someone that would kill people.
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Forget all that. Its in her and his best interest to at least pretend to be concerned that your son is "missing in a dangerous swamp". Like if your gonna lie at least follow through and join the search and make a plea to media to find him.

Their inaction makes them look like its all lies and makes their son look more guilty as well.

Only thing I can't stand more then corrupt criminals is stupid corrupt criminals lmao

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Additional updates:

Park records support Dog's tip that the Laundries stayed at the campground area. Not in the same location where police and FBI have been searching.

Gabby's father is using his platform to demand that all missing persons get the same attention and coverage as his daughter. They are setting up a foundation in her name to help give resources to other missing persons cases.

Brian's mother purchased a burner phone, FBI confirmed. Its not known if it is currently in her possession or not.



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He’s in Cuba they were talking about how from those little islands he could go to key west then Cuba

I’m upset FBi did not know about those two camping trips neighbors saw n how was it the bounty hunter was able to get those tips as to the campground.

I have a cousin who believes the parents story are people out there that stupid to believe that story because his car was there. Apparently a whole agency might be.
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Saw that I think we are dealing with a serial killer

idk, I think its pretty possible that Robert died of natural causes. Its not too uncommon that hikers fall, break their leg, die from the elements.

But with Kylen and Crystal, 100% I think they are tied to Brian.
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Or to Gabby's murder*? What if she was shot like Kylen and Crystal, but not with Brian's gun?

*hard to believe
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Saw that I think we are dealing with a serial killer

idk, I think its pretty possible that Robert died of natural causes. Its not too uncommon that hikers fall, break their leg, die from the elements.

But with Kylen and Crystal, 100% I think they are tied to Brian.

Or to Gabby's murder*? What if she was shot like Kylen and Crystal, but not with Brian's gun?

*hard to believe
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We won't know until they release the full cause of death. And they won't until they have him in custody post interrogation. Pretty good evidence if the bf of the murdered girl lets slip cause of death when it isn't public knowledge.

If he didn't kill Kylen and Crystal then there is a serial murderer on the loose. But like you I find it hard to believe that there is now 4 dead bodies... 3 confirmed homicides within a one week period, in a town of 5000 without a murder in the last 15yrs.
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Saw that I think we are dealing with a serial killer

idk, I think its pretty possible that Robert died of natural causes. Its not too uncommon that hikers fall, break their leg, die from the elements.

But with Kylen and Crystal, 100% I think they are tied to Brian.

Or to Gabby's murder*? What if she was shot like Kylen and Crystal, but not with Brian's gun?

*hard to believe

We won't know until they release the full cause of death. And they won't until they have him in custody post interrogation. Pretty good evidence if the bf of the murdered girl lets slip cause of death when it isn't public knowledge.

If he didn't kill Kylen and Crystal then there is a serial murderer on the loose. But like you I find it hard to believe that there is now 4 dead bodies... 3 confirmed homicides within a one week period, in a town of 5000 without a murder in the last 15yrs.
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Just finally saw a news article of the other Moab women and the police looking for info with no leads- seemed like such an after thought.

I'm really wondering if they just put it out there as a smoke screen, since they haven't updated the public on it in the last month or two and they haven't caught Brian yet either.