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Wow so I was right.
The original body cam footage released was redacted version. Not only were the cops well aware that Brian was seen hitting, slapping, and pushing Gabby by the 911 callers but they even spoke about it during the stop!
They didn't follow their own damn protocol and arrest him after she admits that he did hit her.
Here's a subreddit for all updated info
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The talked to the wrong witness no mention of seeing Brian slapping her 😢
One cop said needed more info let me talk to the witness to see what happened. they spoke to anotherwithness no mention of what the dispatch was told brain slapping her. 😢
Per law though
“The law says that they shall arrest if . . . they find that there was serious bodily injury caused or a dangerous weapon was used and in this case,” Skordas said. “I would assume that they found neither.”
They should have searched the van probably would have found a weapon. But even then no mandate to search it.
Looks like Brian is still alive after all, they need to get on the search of that area ASAP before he gets farther in the trail.
Looks like Brian is still alive after all, they need to get on the search of that area ASAP before he gets farther in the trail.
After everything I’ve seen in true crime shows and articles I’ve read about so many cases involving missing persons and wanted fugitives, I always take articles such as these with a boulder of salt. Yes it is true that witnesses are adamant that they saw the person everyone is looking. I believe that THEY believe they saw them. However there have been so many instances where witnesses say they saw and talk to and interacted with a missing girl for example. They claim that this missing person even gave their name as that of the missing person. Usually this interaction took place months after the person went missing.
When their remains are found five or 10 or 20 years later it’s establish that they were murdered soon after and could not have possibly been seen on the other side of the country 11 months after their abduction like the witness claimed.
Same is true for wanted people. witnesses claiming they saw so-and-so who was wanted for murder or extortion. In my opinion this is true only 50% of the time.
There are also a lot of wack jobs, mental cases, mentally ill people out there that fit descriptions of fugitives, and coupled with their bizarre behavior, can convince the witness that they saw and spoke to said fugitive. When in reality they spoke to some person who was for lack of better words, crazy. Someone who just happen to look a lot like he wanted fugitive.
Finally to continue the topic of wack jobs, there have been people who claim to be or take on the persona of a missing or wanted person just for attention or, I don’t know. There have been some real lunatics who confess to crimes they never committed. Police officers can usually tell something is off about this person and then fingerprints or DNA do not match. Meanwhile the lunatic is just fabricating everything either for attention, or that’s just the way it is in their world or, I don’t know.
I am reminded of a couple of kids who were murdered in the 1980s. Some lunatic sent greeting cards to the family taunting them and making himself sound like he was the killer. Eventually they found out who this person was and it was not the killer. There are a lot of real psychos out there that do a lot of psychotic things but never commit murder.
I think this guy Brian, if he went to that swampland they initially looked for him in, I think he is dead. Actually I think he’s dead regardless of where he went. Killed him self somehow.
But I could be wrong and he still trying to get away. Which means that he can still be caught and put in prison. But even living a life behind bars is still living. Gabby is dead. So in my opinion the best thing is for Brian to also be dead.
Wanted to add, look up the story of Lisa Marie Kimmell. For days after she disappeared, three witnesses “saw” her AND her car with distinct license plates in and around the area she disappeared in. Except in reality, she was being held captive, tortured, etc. before being killed. Ultimately the reason for the sightings were chalked up to “mistakes” on the part of the witnesses.
Kari Lynn Nixon was spotted months after her disappearance in Colorado, and in a music video! She was actually killed the night she disappeared in upstate NY where she lived.
I honestly cannot think of names off hand, but I KNOW there have been fugitives “seen” in this place or that when really they were in hiding 1,000 of miles away. There were three guys wanted for something, in UT or Colorado. They were “seen” by multiple people, but their bodies were found within a few years of their crime. They all killed themselves while trying to get away.
But sometimes witnesses are correct. Some murderer (first name was Larry ) who killed his ex-wife, her neighbor, and the neighbors boyfriend, all in front of two Young children, was hiding out living by a river in a makeshift camp. After his picture was shown on TV, someone called in with a tip and there went the police and they caught him. I believe he was sentenced to death.
Well, all that extra info just say that sightings cannot always be trusted no matter how certain the witness is of what they saw. I am kind of hoping that some years from now they find Brian‘s bones in that swamp and determined that he killed himself not long after running off. I know that if that is the case he will have never faced justice at least on this earth. But if he is able to elude capture he goes on living at least some kind of life. Not fair to the person he killed.
I think he is alive. I think he has some mental health issues. I think the Appalachian/white Ford f150 is the best lead. He might whack himself if cornered, though. He is smart and has advanced planning skills. He laid out that mustang on the edge of a vast swamp because he knew that a search in that swamp would consume time and manpower. His kinfolk appear to have assisted him in his planning, at least initially.
Moreover after he killed Gabby, he was again planning an alibi - he purposely offered $ 200 for a ride that he didn't take. He is clever. Anyone doing all of this has a strong self preservation component within themselves. He is going to do what he knows - he isn't going to blend in with large masses of people. But this ex-cop thinks he might try to get to the west coast and hide in amongst the large homeless population in one of the big cities (San Francisco, Seattle, etc...).
Read somewhere gabbys mom tweeted some additional serious charges are forthcoming.
Looks like Brian is still alive after all, they need to get on the search of that area ASAP before he gets farther in the trail.
After everything I’ve seen in true crime shows and articles I’ve read about so many cases involving missing persons and wanted fugitives, I always take articles such as these with a boulder of salt. Yes it is true that witnesses are adamant that they saw the person everyone is looking. I believe that THEY believe they saw them. However there have been so many instances where witnesses say they saw and talk to and interacted with a missing girl for example. They claim that this missing person even gave their name as that of the missing person. Usually this interaction took place months after the person went missing.
When their remains are found five or 10 or 20 years later it’s establish that they were murdered soon after and could not have possibly been seen on the other side of the country 11 months after their abduction like the witness claimed.
Same is true for wanted people. witnesses claiming they saw so-and-so who was wanted for murder or extortion. In my opinion this is true only 50% of the time.
There are also a lot of wack jobs, mental cases, mentally ill people out there that fit descriptions of fugitives, and coupled with their bizarre behavior, can convince the witness that they saw and spoke to said fugitive. When in reality they spoke to some person who was for lack of better words, crazy. Someone who just happen to look a lot like he wanted fugitive.
Finally to continue the topic of wack jobs, there have been people who claim to be or take on the persona of a missing or wanted person just for attention or, I don’t know. There have been some real lunatics who confess to crimes they never committed. Police officers can usually tell something is off about this person and then fingerprints or DNA do not match. Meanwhile the lunatic is just fabricating everything either for attention, or that’s just the way it is in their world or, I don’t know.
I am reminded of a couple of kids who were murdered in the 1980s. Some lunatic sent greeting cards to the family taunting them and making himself sound like he was the killer. Eventually they found out who this person was and it was not the killer. There are a lot of real psychos out there that do a lot of psychotic things but never commit murder.
I think this guy Brian, if he went to that swampland they initially looked for him in, I think he is dead. Actually I think he’s dead regardless of where he went. Killed him self somehow.
But I could be wrong and he still trying to get away. Which means that he can still be caught and put in prison. But even living a life behind bars is still living. Gabby is dead. So in my opinion the best thing is for Brian to also be dead.
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He won’t kill himself unless he’s cornered with no way out, even then idk if he would do it, he still wants to live and his actions show that. He’s very much alive still watch and see, I hope they search that area quick before he bolts it knowing they are on his tail.
I think he is alive. I think he has some mental health issues. I think the Appalachian/white Ford f150 is the best lead. He might whack himself if cornered, though. He is smart and has advanced planning skills. He laid out that mustang on the edge of a vast swamp because he knew that a search in that swamp would consume time and manpower. His kinfolk appear to have assisted him in his planning, at least initially.
Moreover after he killed Gabby, he was again planning an alibi - he purposely offered $ 200 for a ride that he didn't take. He is clever. Anyone doing all of this has a strong self preservation component within themselves. He is going to do what he knows - he isn't going to blend in with large masses of people. But this ex-cop thinks he might try to get to the west coast and hide in amongst the large homeless population in one of the big cities (San Francisco, Seattle, etc...).
Yes! He would be able to blend in so good here in ca among the crazy amount of homeless people, he’s already started his grungy beard from what the guy who claims to have spotted him yesterday. It would make the most sense that he would go and hide out somewhere he is very familiar with that he knows a lot of people won’t be able to find him there before he executes his escape.
the killer is heading to California!! Driving a white pick up truck.
I would have already been in Mexico, I don't know what the hell is taking him so long. 🤷🏻♂️
He thinks he’s going to blend in with all the homeless!
Yet parents gardening like no big deal.
Leaked Email Alleges Cops Who Pulled Over Brian Laundrie Tried To Cover Up Second Body-Camera Footage That Showed Gabby Petito's Injuries & Accounts Of Abuse
Shocking! Said no one ever.
Are you even police if you don't edit/redact body cam footage and fail to follow the letter of the law? Not in America you aren't.
I really find it wierd he left in middle of trip to” clear storage.”
This guy sees a gun behind the van. I thought it was a cell phone but u check it out
4:11. I think it can be her gun in n her insta picture
If feel he drove the van back home because he new he had to clean that up. Parents possibly told him to come home with it.
I think he’s trying to create a diversion about California, by talking to the random hiker about going to California? Just like he and his family did with the swamp. He’s probably going to stay in that Appalachian trail. He’s been there before, his sister said for 3 months at one time. He knows it.
Very possible.
Although there is a California, NC
Idk that I trust the sister or what anyone in that family says.
They are keeping this under wraps very tightly!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gabby-petito-fbi-decision-hold-142207636.html
They are keeping this under wraps very tightly!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gabby-petito-fbi-decision-hold-142207636.html
It’s not at all unusual considering the main suspect hasn’t been caught or questioned yet. The less info they put out there, the easier it will be able to tell his connection once they get his statement.
Have you guys been seeing the theories circling online that the Laundries have an underground bunker/fall out shelter and the Dog drone footage shows a hand reaching out of the garden bed so mom can hand something off.
Super outlandish but hey, at this point anything is possible.
Have you guys been seeing the theories circling online that the Laundries have an underground bunker/fall out shelter and the Dog drone footage shows a hand reaching out of the garden bed so mom can hand something off.
Super outlandish but hey, at this point anything is possible.
Ok hear me out…
Yes the underground bunker thing is a bit far fetched. BUT… underground bunkers are more common then you would think for the age of their home.
And there is no confirmed sightings/video that Brian was ever at the storage unit, information provided by his family who has motive to lie/deceive with their narrative.
What if during this supposed storage unit clear out they were instead preparing the bunker. Stocking it with supplies to last for months even years. Kinda brilliant to push the narrative that he’s out in the wilderness in survival mode when in actuality he’s at home under everyone’s nose.
Posted by IAteMyGrandmaInMonkeyTown
Have you guys been seeing the theories circling online that the Laundries have an underground bunker/fall out shelter and the Dog drone footage shows a hand reaching out of the garden bed so mom can hand something off.
Super outlandish but hey, at this point anything is possible.
You can not do that. There are lidar cameras you can fly above now and see heat signatures even underground. Not only heat, you can see underground topography. UAVs, Predators, Drones, Helicopters, they can all fly with it and see it. I'm sure they have flown a UAV already and checked. I have a feeling he could be in that reserve. They probably have seen him on the thermal and that's why they are searching there like crazy.
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Do you happen to know how far down that technology can detect?
Idk if they searched the yard... just the house and vehicles at this point I believe.
I hear conflicting stories about the swamp reserve. Some are saying that its a decoy for the media to focus on while the real search is undercover in another location.
Others think they aren't searching there for Brian but for evidence he dumped.
We are being kept in the dark for a purpose. All the info there on media is info him and his family can access. So it makes sense.
As much as I wanna know wtf is going on, I want him to be found more.
A quick google search told me that you can buy thermal blanket fabric made out of Mylar foil which will block thermal imaging. Again this whole thing is far fetched.
They’ve known all this time now the want to help! And if at it took was for police to ask why didn’t they do so from the star!
So seems Brian stayed two block from bar were the two women were last see. at motel on the twelve and these two women were last seen on the 12th according to the bar owner stating police had the wrong date. also Gatorade bottles were found supposedly both by gabby murder n Kylen n wife
They’ve known all this time now the want to help! And if at it took was for police to ask why didn’t they do so from the star!
They did give the information at the start. However I believe the police asked him along less for dad's help and more to judge demeanor. Like taking a serial killer to the scene of the crime to get em talking and giving up more deets.
I also saw the man from Houston, who’s body was found not far from Gabby’s in Teton. Cause of death: self inflicted gunshot to the head. He had 2 kids, I think they were teens. Very sad.
No way, they released the cause of death!?
How likely is it that you have 4 victims dead by guns. What if the ballistics all match and they are looking for the gun in the reserve. Him, Gabby (unconfirmed cause of death) and Kylen and Crystal.
They been caught in so many lies Why they are now trying to look like they are cooperating
Gabby Petito died of strangulation. That way takes forever to kill someone.
Teton County Coroner Brent Blue said Tuesday that an autopsy report found that Petito was strangled. Her body was likely outside “in the wilderness” for three to four weeks, Blue said.
Gabby Petito died of strangulation. That way takes forever to kill someone.
Teton County Coroner Brent Blue said Tuesday that an autopsy report found that Petito was strangled. Her body was likely outside “in the wilderness” for three to four weeks, Blue said.
Also very personal way to kill someone as well.
Strangulation and DV( mentioned) hinted
I called it weeks ago on this forum that he had strangled her because that’s the kind of person I saw him being. It’s sad how I could read Brian’s character in just 5 minutes of watching that police stop footage and knowing right then and there he had killed gabby and how he had done it when the “professionals” couldn’t see who Brian is. It always amazes me how bad the majority of people are at judging people’s character when I hear about cases like this one and many others involving couples.
Situations like this could easily be avoided it people understood how to study people’s character good when around someone to find out who the real them is. If I ever have children the most important thing I’m going to focus teaching them is how to become a good judge of character, so they know what kind of people to avoid in their life right off the bat.
There are many pictures of this guy holding young children and babies and he looks like a nice person and the children look happy. How did he get to that place of being a murderer and strangling her to death? She had those pictures of baby items and this was the guy she wanted to marry? And when he was roughing her up, she takes the blame to protect him, and eventually he kills her (probably in her own van) - very sad.
There are many pictures of this guy holding young children and babies and he looks like a nice person and the children look happy. How did he get to that place of being a murderer and strangling her to death? She had those pictures of baby items and this was the guy she wanted to marry? And when he was roughing her up, she takes the blame to protect him, and eventually he kills her (probably in her own van) - very sad.
Seems he grew up surrounded by narcissistic.
There are many pictures of this guy holding young children and babies and he looks like a nice person and the children look happy. How did he get to that place of being a murderer and strangling her to death? She had those pictures of baby items and this was the guy she wanted to marry? And when he was roughing her up, she takes the blame to protect him, and eventually he kills her (probably in her own van) - very sad.
Because people only know how to see the surface, not what lies within. You saw a nice guy, I saw a guy who would easily kill someone given the right opportunity.
There are many pictures of this guy holding young children and babies and he looks like a nice person and the children look happy. How did he get to that place of being a murderer and strangling her to death? She had those pictures of baby items and this was the guy she wanted to marry? And when he was roughing her up, she takes the blame to protect him, and eventually he kills her (probably in her own van) - very sad.
Because people only know how to see the surface, not what lies within. You saw a nice guy, I saw a guy who would easily kill someone given the right opportunity.
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Curious. What made you think/feel he was a killer? What shows you that?
The whole world can see it. Why so many are following frustrated with police
It is so obvious
Posted by IAteMyGrandmaInMonkeyTown
I often get similar vibes from interacting with scorpio males. Creepy af yet extremely feminine energy and something just seems off and insincere
That's because they don't trust people, and in return people feel it, and don't trust them. I met many sincere Scorpios. If they love you they are sincere lol.
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Scorpios as a whole get a really bad wrap unfortunately. But everyone should keep in mind that there are evolved and unevolved people in every sign—the unevolved living out the negative traits of the sign.
Its pretty tragic that the Teton coroner released the cause of death. FBI was not involved in that press conference. Its going to be hard to use any confession with that information at a trial as its now common knowledge. Unless said confession contains other details not released.
But aside from text/phone records and evidence in the van, a van that has been thoroughly cleaned by the Laundries long before law enforcement searched it, this case is going cold.
I honestly think it’s going to be the publicity that gets this guy caught. Someone is bound to see him and recognize him and turn his ass in! He has to get supplies sometime somehow.
Its pretty tragic that the Teton coroner released the cause of death. FBI was not involved in that press conference. Its going to be hard to use any confession with that information at a trial as its now common knowledge. Unless said confession contains other details not released.
But aside from text/phone records and evidence in the van, a van that has been thoroughly cleaned by the Laundries long before law enforcement searched it, this case is going cold.
Now they are trying to say is kinky sex gone bad. As a defense. All defense wounds are healed now. I agree nothing should have been released but if public record💁 I’m glad they kept it tight lip.
They are also saying if there is no 3 party DNA only his well that makes him the only killer.
This goes with what I saw in the van you can check for yourself at 4:35 close up. Gabby was possibly killed after Mary giblets and passed away when this vloggers passed by. why the feet marks. What I saw puts him at the scene
@undine saw it when I posted the screenshot.
Posted by IAteMyGrandmaInMonkeyTown
People can’t see the truth until it’s plainly obvious and way too late, that’s the problem with the majority of people who exist now. They have no clue on how to read people’s true identity and they end up paying for it dearly in the end.
No way in hell if gabby was my daughter would I feel comfortable with her being with a guy like Brian. He could easily fool all the others with his mask but not me. I saw through his bs facade of innocence after watching only 5 minutes of video footage of him to see the demons face he tried to conceal. It’s a shame no one in her life could see it to possibly prevent this from happening to her.
That's because you saw him after he beat her up, felt guilt, started "hiding" his bad side, and ironically started to give out tons of red flag clues on that video. If you saw him in everyday life it would be almost impossible to figure out he is a killer. Maybe even he did not know himself.
Someone who is not guilty will get aggressive fast that you suspect him and with time he will get more and more confident and attack you. He will not be calm and collected like he was.
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No, it would be easier for me to tell he would kill someone if I hung out with him or knew him. If you think he was calm and collected in that footage then I can see how he could fool many people in thinking that same thing too smh. People just don’t know what to look for in people that will show if they would ever commit things like murder, rape, suicide, robbery, assault, etc once you connect the right dots of people’s personality and behavior in situations.
Brian knows he would kill someone someday, his actions throughout this whole thing shows that clear as day. Someone who is not a real murderer would not have handled this situation the way he has, only a cold killer would do what he is currently doing.
Once I saw him in that police video I knew gabby was dead and she had died by strangulation. Brian looked to me like someone who would possibly strangle someone to death and I told people that weeks ago.
It called identifying sociopaths and narcissist.not all kill but they are cold and calculating. The whole family has these traits
Look at parents mowing grass like nothing after coroners report.
They missing the humanity gene.empathy. Brian had what’s is called the narcissistic injury when gabby apologized for him at Mary giblets. Killing her Specially if she chose to leave him after his behavior
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Yeah I was saying this earlier in the thread. Within under 24 hrs of finding their bodies the police were also telling the community not to be worried... but no arrests no leads no suspects. I find that suspect.
Either the fbi and police on Gabby's case are idiotic and got nothing... or they have some key pieces of info and are keeping mum until they find Brian. I'm like you thinking its fairly significant we've not gotten any press briefings or statements from them for the longest time here. Not typical, especially on a case with this much media scrutiny.