what is wrong with todays guys

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they show no interest in pursuing a single available girl. they want (maybe even just for attention sake) the married/taken girl. why? because they like the challenge of the competition with the BF/husband? or with the others like him that want the taken girl. it's so frustrating and unfair that the girl who already has a partner has the attention of the single guy as well. hmm damn social media for making taken people look more attractive and single people lonely. i hate social media and single guys. on that note some taken guys show more interest in a single girl than the single guys do. but you see girls do not get to enjoy the attention of taken guys like single guys enjoy of taken girls. it's all so comlicated. no romance, no pursuing, no nothing. just triangles..
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they show no interest in pursuing a single available girl. they want (maybe even just for attention sake) the married/taken girl. why? because they like the challenge of the competition with the BF/husband? or with the others like him that want the taken girl. it's so frustrating and unfair that the girl who already has a partner has the attention of the single guy as well. hmm damn social media for making taken people look more attractive and single people lonely. i hate social media and single guys. on that note some taken guys show more interest in a single girl than the single guys do. but you see girls do not get to enjoy the attention of taken guys like single guys enjoy of taken girls. it's all so comlicated. no romance, no pursuing, no nothing. just triangles..
The reason I dont "pursue" or "date" is because most woman I stumble upon don't know who they are or what they want. And I'd rather avoid that pitfall again. I usually end up clicking with someone who wants what I want and we both define what we want and work towards the same vision.
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they show no interest in pursuing a single available girl. they want (maybe even just for attention sake) the married/taken girl. why? because they like the challenge of the competition with the BF/husband? or with the others like him that want the taken girl. it's so frustrating and unfair that the girl who already has a partner has the attention of the single guy as well. hmm damn social media for making taken people look more attractive and single people lonely. i hate social media and single guys. on that note some taken guys show more interest in a single girl than the single guys do. but you see girls do not get to enjoy the attention of taken guys like single guys enjoy of taken girls. it's all so comlicated. no romance, no pursuing, no nothing. just triangles..
The reason I dont "pursue" or "date" is because most woman I stumble upon don't know who they are or what they want. And I'd rather avoid that pitfall again. I usually end up clicking with someone who wants what I want and we both define what we want and work towards the same vision.

So maybe you can help me. I know who I am and what I want, just haven't figured out how to go about getting what I want. Any tips or advice?

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they show no interest in pursuing a single available girl. they want (maybe even just for attention sake) the married/taken girl. why? because they like the challenge of the competition with the BF/husband? or with the others like him that want the taken girl. it's so frustrating and unfair that the girl who already has a partner has the attention of the single guy as well. hmm damn social media for making taken people look more attractive and single people lonely. i hate social media and single guys. on that note some taken guys show more interest in a single girl than the single guys do. but you see girls do not get to enjoy the attention of taken guys like single guys enjoy of taken girls. it's all so comlicated. no romance, no pursuing, no nothing. just triangles..
The reason I dont "pursue" or "date" is because most woman I stumble upon don't know who they are or what they want. And I'd rather avoid that pitfall again. I usually end up clicking with someone who wants what I want and we both define what we want and work towards the same vision.
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what they want is to be pursued lol. no i mean both need to meet half way, but when you think tradition you want the guy to make more moves than the girl at least till a relationship is established. otherwise it's like girl is not sure whether she will come across as needy, desperate is she tries too hard, even if her interest is genuine. and not to forget if there is no initiation from the guy she is not sure anymore. she is brainwashed to believe that if she shows more interest he will lose interest haha

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they show no interest in pursuing a single available girl. they want (maybe even just for attention sake) the married/taken girl. why? because they like the challenge of the competition with the BF/husband? or with the others like him that want the taken girl. it's so frustrating and unfair that the girl who already has a partner has the attention of the single guy as well. hmm damn social media for making taken people look more attractive and single people lonely. i hate social media and single guys. on that note some taken guys show more interest in a single girl than the single guys do. but you see girls do not get to enjoy the attention of taken guys like single guys enjoy of taken girls. it's all so comlicated. no romance, no pursuing, no nothing. just triangles..
The reason I dont "pursue" or "date" is because most woman I stumble upon don't know who they are or what they want. And I'd rather avoid that pitfall again. I usually end up clicking with someone who wants what I want and we both define what we want and work towards the same vision.

So maybe you can help me. I know who I am and what I want, just haven't figured out how to go about getting what I want. Any tips or advice?

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they show no interest in pursuing a single available girl. they want (maybe even just for attention sake) the married/taken girl. why? because they like the challenge of the competition with the BF/husband? or with the others like him that want the taken girl. it's so frustrating and unfair that the girl who already has a partner has the attention of the single guy as well. hmm damn social media for making taken people look more attractive and single people lonely. i hate social media and single guys. on that note some taken guys show more interest in a single girl than the single guys do. but you see girls do not get to enjoy the attention of taken guys like single guys enjoy of taken girls. it's all so comlicated. no romance, no pursuing, no nothing. just triangles..
The reason I dont "pursue" or "date" is because most woman I stumble upon don't know who they are or what they want. And I'd rather avoid that pitfall again. I usually end up clicking with someone who wants what I want and we both define what we want and work towards the same vision.

what they want is to be pursued lol. no i mean both need to meet half way, but when you think tradition you want the guy to make more moves than the girl at least till a relationship is established. otherwise it's like girl is not sure whether she will come across as needy, desperate is she tries too hard, even if her interest is genuine. and not to forget if there is no initiation from the guy she is not sure anymore. she is brainwashed to believe that if she shows more interest he will lose interest haha

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You overthink everything.
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they show no interest in pursuing a single available girl. they want (maybe even just for attention sake) the married/taken girl. why? because they like the challenge of the competition with the BF/husband? or with the others like him that want the taken girl. it's so frustrating and unfair that the girl who already has a partner has the attention of the single guy as well. hmm damn social media for making taken people look more attractive and single people lonely. i hate social media and single guys. on that note some taken guys show more interest in a single girl than the single guys do. but you see girls do not get to enjoy the attention of taken guys like single guys enjoy of taken girls. it's all so comlicated. no romance, no pursuing, no nothing. just triangles..
The reason I dont "pursue" or "date" is because most woman I stumble upon don't know who they are or what they want. And I'd rather avoid that pitfall again. I usually end up clicking with someone who wants what I want and we both define what we want and work towards the same vision.

what they want is to be pursued lol. no i mean both need to meet half way, but when you think tradition you want the guy to make more moves than the girl at least till a relationship is established. otherwise it's like girl is not sure whether she will come across as needy, desperate is she tries too hard, even if her interest is genuine. and not to forget if there is no initiation from the guy she is not sure anymore. she is brainwashed to believe that if she shows more interest he will lose interest haha


You overthink everything.
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can't help it. i am a robot aka virgo.

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they show no interest in pursuing a single available girl. they want (maybe even just for attention sake) the married/taken girl. why? because they like the challenge of the competition with the BF/husband? or with the others like him that want the taken girl. it's so frustrating and unfair that the girl who already has a partner has the attention of the single guy as well. hmm damn social media for making taken people look more attractive and single people lonely. i hate social media and single guys. on that note some taken guys show more interest in a single girl than the single guys do. but you see girls do not get to enjoy the attention of taken guys like single guys enjoy of taken girls. it's all so comlicated. no romance, no pursuing, no nothing. just triangles..
The reason I dont "pursue" or "date" is because most woman I stumble upon don't know who they are or what they want. And I'd rather avoid that pitfall again. I usually end up clicking with someone who wants what I want and we both define what we want and work towards the same vision.

what they want is to be pursued lol. no i mean both need to meet half way, but when you think tradition you want the guy to make more moves than the girl at least till a relationship is established. otherwise it's like girl is not sure whether she will come across as needy, desperate is she tries too hard, even if her interest is genuine. and not to forget if there is no initiation from the guy she is not sure anymore. she is brainwashed to believe that if she shows more interest he will lose interest haha


You overthink everything.

can't help it. i am a robot aka virgo.

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Thats no excuse.
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Shit I just get called a player so I don't even talk to woman anymore, what's even the point?

Well are you?
Nope..I just come off really fucking charming it's hard not to be I'm a Libra sun and Venus..plus I have Aries rising which makes it worse I think?
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the question is are you trying to charm taken women?

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they show no interest in pursuing a single available girl. they want (maybe even just for attention sake) the married/taken girl. why? because they like the challenge of the competition with the BF/husband? or with the others like him that want the taken girl. it's so frustrating and unfair that the girl who already has a partner has the attention of the single guy as well. hmm damn social media for making taken people look more attractive and single people lonely. i hate social media and single guys. on that note some taken guys show more interest in a single girl than the single guys do. but you see girls do not get to enjoy the attention of taken guys like single guys enjoy of taken girls. it's all so comlicated. no romance, no pursuing, no nothing. just triangles..
The reason I dont "pursue" or "date" is because most woman I stumble upon don't know who they are or what they want. And I'd rather avoid that pitfall again. I usually end up clicking with someone who wants what I want and we both define what we want and work towards the same vision.

what they want is to be pursued lol. no i mean both need to meet half way, but when you think tradition you want the guy to make more moves than the girl at least till a relationship is established. otherwise it's like girl is not sure whether she will come across as needy, desperate is she tries too hard, even if her interest is genuine. and not to forget if there is no initiation from the guy she is not sure anymore. she is brainwashed to believe that if she shows more interest he will lose interest haha


You overthink everything.

can't help it. i am a robot aka virgo.


Thats no excuse.
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so what do you suggest. start showing interest in guys first and more than them?
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if an unattractive woman tells people that she has a bf--> this doesn't make her any more attrative.

if a beautiful woman tells people she has a bf--> this doesn't make her any less attractive.

People want what they can't have. Some people go as far as wearing rings just to get the attention they desire. Being taken makes a person more desirable to some people

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this is exactly what i meant.

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they show no interest in pursuing a single available girl. they want (maybe even just for attention sake) the married/taken girl. why? because they like the challenge of the competition with the BF/husband? or with the others like him that want the taken girl. it's so frustrating and unfair that the girl who already has a partner has the attention of the single guy as well. hmm damn social media for making taken people look more attractive and single people lonely. i hate social media and single guys. on that note some taken guys show more interest in a single girl than the single guys do. but you see girls do not get to enjoy the attention of taken guys like single guys enjoy of taken girls. it's all so comlicated. no romance, no pursuing, no nothing. just triangles..
The reason I dont "pursue" or "date" is because most woman I stumble upon don't know who they are or what they want. And I'd rather avoid that pitfall again. I usually end up clicking with someone who wants what I want and we both define what we want and work towards the same vision.

what they want is to be pursued lol. no i mean both need to meet half way, but when you think tradition you want the guy to make more moves than the girl at least till a relationship is established. otherwise it's like girl is not sure whether she will come across as needy, desperate is she tries too hard, even if her interest is genuine. and not to forget if there is no initiation from the guy she is not sure anymore. she is brainwashed to believe that if she shows more interest he will lose interest haha


You overthink everything.

can't help it. i am a robot aka virgo.


Thats no excuse.

so what do you suggest. start showing interest in guys first and more than them?

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Focus on calming that voice in your head telling you to worry
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You think you can help a person who is less emotionally available, work it out show them it's okay to trust you and express you, but you have to be on the same page and we are not.

We attract opposite for a reason. You will understand each other through means of friendship with our team judgment and must trust. Once you get into something with someone you are allowed to let their past go and start with you both only. Almost starting over once you get into a relationship. Keep it alive.

I don't think we can judge anymore lots of people been through things. But what's acceptable to you. Might not even acceptable to others. Compromise and trust through friendship is grand. Making sure that when red flags hit even if they aren't expressive ask them what it is. See if you can support, help, teach, and let them move on when they learned something to take to their next relationship.
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Takes patience and guts to go through this stuff. But people less emotionally available or expressive well admire you in someone.

Could it be that 5 years is a satisfying experience and okay to move on.

Could it be okay in friendship of 2 years or more and have fun with each other safely, and move on when it's time mutually. Yeah absolutely leave friendship in a good standing no matter what. It might not turn good but it's mutual.

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I think it's cultural, please state which country you live in? Because here in England, guys do most of the asking out, and I would say on a night out, you would get asked out 100 times, on average, it's a big problem for women. But I know when I'm in the states, women seems to ask guys out, it seems more the normal thing to do. And I've know American guys who make no effort, because I think the women will do the work anyway. In England I'm 100% sure you cannot rely on the woman to do anything, even if they are interested.
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...this is a thing?

I thought it was more, guys looking for casual everything and zero commitment so they can basically Peter Pan their way through life until they're 50 and realize how fucking stupid they are?
You surely don't miss a thread to repeat the same crap over and over...

I'm thinking you must be surrounded by really ugly people if you feel the need to generalize about how immature men are every single time.
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...this is a thing?

I thought it was more, guys looking for casual everything and zero commitment so they can basically Peter Pan their way through life until they're 50 and realize how fucking stupid they are?
You surely don't miss a thread to repeat the same crap over and over...

I'm thinking you must be surrounded by really ugly people if you feel the need to generalize about how immature men are every single time.
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Or maybe it's just that she's VERY salty .......................................................................................................................
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From a woman's perspective, they think they are getting something special because he is married (or pretending to be). All the females who thought my ex was so attractive for whatever reason have all disappeared now that he is single and available.

I've lost count of how many times I've been hit on or checked out by women, whilst in a relationship. It's a completely different story when I'm single...



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I've never been hit on like when I was married and fat.

Women would look at my husband gut and their eyes would light up like christmas.

I'm not even joking
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...this is a thing?

I thought it was more, guys looking for casual everything and zero commitment so they can basically Peter Pan their way through life until they're 50 and realize how fucking stupid they are?
You surely don't miss a thread to repeat the same crap over and over...

I'm thinking you must be surrounded by really ugly people if you feel the need to generalize about how immature men are every single time.
Or maybe it's just that she's VERY salty .......................................................................................................................
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No way she's salty, you MUST be projecting...
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Maybe I should get a ring.



Yeah I was just thinking the same thing


It's like I'm at that age where I'm like what the hell *shrug* let's try it.

😆 it's good to be open-minded 😄

Bad to lie though...not a good way to start out


What am I lying about though if they make assumptions and never bother to ask how can I be the asshole if I never say what the ring is for. What if I just like having a ring. Just to psychologically misuse this trick to make women think that if some other woman is with him he really must have something I'm not seeing.

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I was about to say what if you just like to wear wedding rings? In Italian we use the word 'fede' to refer to both a 'wedding ring' and 'faith'. Now go figure if that person is married or just highly spiritual.

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Maybe I should get a ring.



Yeah I was just thinking the same thing


It's like I'm at that age where I'm like what the hell *shrug* let's try it.

😆 it's good to be open-minded 😄

Bad to lie though...not a good way to start out


What am I lying about though if they make assumptions and never bother to ask how can I be the asshole if I never say what the ring is for. What if I just like having a ring. Just to psychologically misuse this trick to make women think that if some other woman is with him he really must have something I'm not seeing.


I was about to say what if you just like to wear wedding rings? In Italian we use the word 'fede' to refer to both a 'wedding ring' and 'faith'. Now go figure if that person is married or just highly spiritual.


Sì, il mio amico, ma è un pò divertente. E 'come giocare alla lotteria. ?
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Che te lo dico a fare! le mogli che potresti comprarti se la vincessi... 😆

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...this is a thing?

I thought it was more, guys looking for casual everything and zero commitment so they can basically Peter Pan their way through life until they're 50 and realize how fucking stupid they are?
Only works that way for females.

Males who pull that off have more money = more vacations = ultimately more choices in women (albeit matured and desperately lonely women) than men who saddle up younger.



Females who peter pan through life end up with more choices in cats by the time they're 50.
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No, sweetie, no.
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
...this is a thing?

I thought it was more, guys looking for casual everything and zero commitment so they can basically Peter Pan their way through life until they're 50 and realize how fucking stupid they are?
You surely don't miss a thread to repeat the same crap over and over...

I'm thinking you must be surrounded by really ugly people if you feel the need to generalize about how immature men are every single time.
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You must be an insecure prick if you take such offense a statement meant for a specific population of men. You also must not be very bright if you don't realize that a good chunk of the threads here are all about the same thing, hence the same answers. Many users here don't seem to realize this, apparently, as this is their "witty" comeback a good portion of the time. Good job!

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Posted by Palerio
Posted by rockyroadicecream
...this is a thing?

I thought it was more, guys looking for casual everything and zero commitment so they can basically Peter Pan their way through life until they're 50 and realize how fucking stupid they are?
You surely don't miss a thread to repeat the same crap over and over...

I'm thinking you must be surrounded by really ugly people if you feel the need to generalize about how immature men are every single time.
Or maybe it's just that she's VERY salty .......................................................................................................................
No way she's salty, you MUST be projecting...

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The only saltiness I see are two man children getting offended over a statement that supposedly doesn't apply to them.

Maybe you two are guilty of the behavior I pegged, hence the butthurt. *gasp*

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they show no interest in pursuing a single available girl. they want (maybe even just for attention sake) the married/taken girl. why? because they like the challenge of the competition with the BF/husband? or with the others like him that want the taken girl. it's so frustrating and unfair that the girl who already has a partner has the attention of the single guy as well. hmm damn social media for making taken people look more attractive and single people lonely. i hate social media and single guys. on that note some taken guys show more interest in a single girl than the single guys do. but you see girls do not get to enjoy the attention of taken guys like single guys enjoy of taken girls. it's all so comlicated. no romance, no pursuing, no nothing. just triangles..
The reason I dont "pursue" or "date" is because most woman I stumble upon don't know who they are or what they want. And I'd rather avoid that pitfall again. I usually end up clicking with someone who wants what I want and we both define what we want and work towards the same vision.
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Greetings, Cat.

I hope that you find the kitty that you are looking for, and that you will hopefully find her soon.

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they show no interest in pursuing a single available girl. they want (maybe even just for attention sake) the married/taken girl. why? because they like the challenge of the competition with the BF/husband? or with the others like him that want the taken girl. it's so frustrating and unfair that the girl who already has a partner has the attention of the single guy as well. hmm damn social media for making taken people look more attractive and single people lonely. i hate social media and single guys. on that note some taken guys show more interest in a single girl than the single guys do. but you see girls do not get to enjoy the attention of taken guys like single guys enjoy of taken girls. it's all so comlicated. no romance, no pursuing, no nothing. just triangles..
The reason I dont "pursue" or "date" is because most woman I stumble upon don't know who they are or what they want. And I'd rather avoid that pitfall again. I usually end up clicking with someone who wants what I want and we both define what we want and work towards the same vision.
Greetings, Cat.

I hope that you find the kitty that you are looking for, and that you will hopefully find her soon.

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Aww thank you =) I appreciate it! I will be ever grateful when she crosses my path