Do Sags just enjoy helping people out without the need for favors in return?

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My sag friend spent 3 hours yesterday helping me do some spring cleaning in my place. I offered to make him dinner sometime to return the favor, but he said he didn't want anything in return. I personally like things to be fair so I am really surprised. He said he doesn't really have any expectations of people in general.

Do Sags really just feel happy to make their friends' life easier? Or is there something I should do to show my appreciate even if he said no need to?
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Posted by saggurl88
Yeah. I don't mind helping at all. It's nice to feel like you are helping a friend out and getting things accomplished. It's like we both win and get it done. Lol.
That is very good to know. I guess that's why most sags I know are pretty content and positive.

I like things to be fair--equal amounts of give a take, but life is not always fair so I struggle a lot. Some interpersonal relationships that I was in made me feel taken advantage of, so I don't want to be that person who just takes things for granted. But I have a feeling that he feels if I purposefully do something to return the favor, it in a way cheapens our friendship? I don't know. Maybe he just would prefer when he needs help I will be there. But he never asks for help though.

BTW, what would make you feel that your friends really appreciate you?
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Yeah. I don't mind helping at all. It's nice to feel like you are helping a friend out and getting things accomplished. It's like we both win and get it done. Lol.
That is very good to know. I guess that's why most sags I know are pretty content and positive.

I like things to be fair--equal amounts of give a take, but life is not always fair so I struggle a lot. Some interpersonal relationships that I was in made me feel taken advantage of, so I don't want to be that person who just takes things for granted. But I have a feeling that he feels if I purposefully do something to return the favor, it in a way cheapens our friendship? I don't know. Maybe he just would prefer when he needs help I will be there. But he never asks for help though.

BTW, what would make you feel that your friends really appreciate you?
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Nothing cheapens the friendship even if you return the favor, we just don't expect it lol I don't think Sag worry about life not being fair, it comes with the territory and we ignore it and do our part. Who cares about fairness. Do something to make it better and don't worry about whats fair. lol

Eating is always good. I like food and quality time, so even going out and doing something fun is cool too. Hiking, or something adventurous.

I never ask for help either but don't mind helping others when they need it. It's different if they expect it. When it's my choice, I don't mind. When you are depending on me to do stuff, I don't like it lol
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Yeah. I don't mind helping at all. It's nice to feel like you are helping a friend out and getting things accomplished. It's like we both win and get it done. Lol.
That is very good to know. I guess that's why most sags I know are pretty content and positive.

I like things to be fair--equal amounts of give a take, but life is not always fair so I struggle a lot. Some interpersonal relationships that I was in made me feel taken advantage of, so I don't want to be that person who just takes things for granted. But I have a feeling that he feels if I purposefully do something to return the favor, it in a way cheapens our friendship? I don't know. Maybe he just would prefer when he needs help I will be there. But he never asks for help though.

BTW, what would make you feel that your friends really appreciate you?
Nothing cheapens the friendship even if you return the favor, we just don't expect it lol I don't think Sag worry about life not being fair, it comes with the territory and we ignore it and do our part. Who cares about fairness. Do something to make it better and don't worry about whats fair. lol

Eating is always good. I like food and quality time, so even going out and doing something fun is cool too. Hiking, or something adventurous.

I never ask for help either but don't mind helping others when they need it. It's different if they expect it. When it's my choice, I don't mind. When you are depending on me to do stuff, I don't like it lol
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This is very helpful! Thank you! 🤗

I think I will bring him some food next time when I cook. I guess if there's some fun events I can forward the info to him as well.

I really envy this trait of not caring about fairness lol I think that's one important thing I hope that I will learn over time 🙂
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Posted by UnicornSag
Yes, I honestly expect nothing in return from people I help with something, It brings me joy to be helpful so no need to do anything. Appreciation is enough, to just know someone values it and doesn't take me for granted, doesn't have to do absolutely anything in return.
Thank you for sharing! That is good to know.

I did tell him I really appreciate his help and I meant it 🙂
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Posted by stillstillwater
Super generous people. My Sag gives so freely and openly to just about anybody. She has a beautiful heart even if she's prone to super competitive/negative thinking lol.
Yes, my sag friend is also secretly competitive too lol (He tries to hide it but we can still see it lol)

My sag friend is positive most of the time though. He only complains once in a while.

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Super generous people. My Sag gives so freely and openly to just about anybody. She has a beautiful heart even if she's prone to super competitive/negative thinking lol.
Yes, my sag friend is also secretly competitive too lol (He tries to hide it but we can still see it lol)

My sag friend is positive most of the time though. He only complains once in a while.

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I try to reel her in and give her different and more team work perspective. She appreciates that. lol.
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Although they don't always enjoy it .....i don't mean that in a nasty way ....they do it to help ..but they can have a lot on their plate already ..A LOT

They know how to say no too ...

But no they never expect anything. I think if you were constantly demanding emotional energy then the relationship would fade out without you giving the same intimacy. It would be too draining.
Oh yes, that's the problem. My sag friend has been supporting me emotionally too, but he never asks for my emotional support. The good thing is he does know when to say no. He'd tell me when he's busy and cannot talk.
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My sag friend spent 3 hours yesterday helping me do some spring cleaning in my place. I offered to make him dinner sometime to return the favor, but he said he didn't want anything in return. I personally like things to be fair so I am really surprised. He said he doesn't really have any expectations of people in general.

Do Sags really just feel happy to make their friends' life easier? Or is there something I should do to show my appreciate even if he said no need to?
I will do this ...cancer sun ...i just need to feel the relationship is genuine and truly close ..and i can be myself around you.
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makes sense for a cancer sun!
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Posted by RooSagicorn
Yeah I do things because I just want to help. I care, so I do things for you. If you don’t appreciate it, or take advantage that can be an issue eventually but takes awhile to get there.

My brother always wants things to be fair.. very important to him. He keeps score. It’s a very different way of approaching things. Oh he’s not a Sag lol
Hahah, is your brother a Libra or Libra dominant? I am Libra dominant :p
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Yeah I do things because I just want to help. I care, so I do things for you. If you don’t appreciate it, or take advantage that can be an issue eventually but takes awhile to get there.

My brother always wants things to be fair.. very important to him. He keeps score. It’s a very different way of approaching things. Oh he’s not a Sag lol
Hahah, is your brother a Libra or Libra dominant? I am Libra dominant :p
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Super generous people. My Sag gives so freely and openly to just about anybody. She has a beautiful heart even if she's prone to super competitive/negative thinking lol.
Yes, my sag friend is also secretly competitive too lol (He tries to hide it but we can still see it lol)

My sag friend is positive most of the time though. He only complains once in a while.



I try to reel her in and give her different and more team work perspective. She appreciates that. lol.

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hmmm. i think I should try that lol stealing your tip :p
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Yes! I do nice things for people all the time without return. I live by a pay it forward way.


I like the "pay it forward" perspective. I guess if my friend really doesn't need anything, I can just pay it forward and do some nice things for people who actually need help 🙂
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You could send your friend a fun thank you card. Nobody gets cards in the mail anymore. haha

And one day you will be able to pay it to your friend, divine timing. : )

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Yes! I do nice things for people all the time without return. I live by a pay it forward way.


I like the "pay it forward" perspective. I guess if my friend really doesn't need anything, I can just pay it forward and do some nice things for people who actually need help 🙂
You could send your friend a fun thank you card. Nobody gets cards in the mail anymore. haha

And one day you will be able to pay it to your friend, divine timing. : )

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Woo. Thank you card in the mail sounds like a good idea. FUN! Thanks!
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Yes! I do nice things for people all the time without return. I live by a pay it forward way.


I like the "pay it forward" perspective. I guess if my friend really doesn't need anything, I can just pay it forward and do some nice things for people who actually need help 🙂
You could send your friend a fun thank you card. Nobody gets cards in the mail anymore. haha

And one day you will be able to pay it to your friend, divine timing. : )





Woo. Thank you card in the mail sounds like a good idea. FUN! Thanks!
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This Sag-Aqua-Libra-Cap would be all warm and fuzzy getting a card. 🙂

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Yea we do



I just don’t anything bad in return, cuz people usually give you a hard time when you do them a favor
Haha, why do people give you a hard time when you do them a favor? that's so weird. hmmm. 😕
It’s what people do
what kind of favour?
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Any kind

It’s people nature??
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Yea we do



I just don’t anything bad in return, cuz people usually give you a hard time when you do them a favor
Haha, why do people give you a hard time when you do them a favor? that's so weird. hmmm. 😕
It’s what people do
what kind of favour?
Any kind

It’s people nature??


I would wager you are getting your favors wrong...
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Maybe
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as a sag I do favors or offer my help whenever I can and as long is I can.

but I wouldn't say it means I don't expect something in return.

I would just hope that when I really need a friend or some help that that person is present to see it and able to help me. because 100% I have the hardest time asking for help.

and although I feel like that's a good thing because I feel impowered and capable and proud of myself

I also hate it because sometime things can be so hard and I wish people just noticed and wanted to be there for me when I need them the most.

hardly ever happens tho.

for me atleast
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as a sag I do favors or offer my help whenever I can and as long is I can.

but I wouldn't say it means I don't expect something in return.

I would just hope that when I really need a friend or some help that that person is present to see it and able to help me. because 100% I have the hardest time asking for help.

and although I feel like that's a good thing because I feel impowered and capable and proud of myself

I also hate it because sometime things can be so hard and I wish people just noticed and wanted to be there for me when I need them the most.

hardly ever happens tho.

for me atleast


Thank you so much for sharing! Now that I think of it, I cannot even recall a time when a sag friend asks for help. I feel they might feel too embarrassed to ask... Hmmm, I wonder if there are any signs of stress that I should watch for, so that I can offer help without them having to ask 😕
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as a sag I do favors or offer my help whenever I can and as long is I can.

but I wouldn't say it means I don't expect something in return.

I would just hope that when I really need a friend or some help that that person is present to see it and able to help me. because 100% I have the hardest time asking for help.

and although I feel like that's a good thing because I feel impowered and capable and proud of myself

I also hate it because sometime things can be so hard and I wish people just noticed and wanted to be there for me when I need them the most.

hardly ever happens tho.

for me atleast


Thank you so much for sharing! Now that I think of it, I cannot even recall a time when a sag friend asks for help. I feel they might feel too embarrassed to ask... Hmmm, I wonder if there are any signs of stress that I should watch for, so that I can offer help without them having to ask 😕
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I don't like asking for help, because it means I have to be vulnerable. I'd rather suffer in silence.
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as a sag I do favors or offer my help whenever I can and as long is I can.

but I wouldn't say it means I don't expect something in return.

I would just hope that when I really need a friend or some help that that person is present to see it and able to help me. because 100% I have the hardest time asking for help.

and although I feel like that's a good thing because I feel impowered and capable and proud of myself

I also hate it because sometime things can be so hard and I wish people just noticed and wanted to be there for me when I need them the most.

hardly ever happens tho.

for me atleast


Thank you so much for sharing! Now that I think of it, I cannot even recall a time when a sag friend asks for help. I feel they might feel too embarrassed to ask... Hmmm, I wonder if there are any signs of stress that I should watch for, so that I can offer help without them having to ask 😕
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I mean don't expect them to accept help without them saying "no, its ok"

personally for me I never ask for help, I don't want to burden anyone with my drama, I don't want people to think im weak or incapable. ill tell you think, when im going thru thing or I have stresses. ill being them uppp. for example...

im about to fix up my house to rent it out.

I am so stressed because I don't have the time or patients to be hands on

but I don't have the money to be hiring everyone to do think I can technically do.

I have asked no one for help. but I have express that im stressed and that I have all this to accomplish

and I assume if someone is listening to me, and cares about me and wants me to succeed that they would offer to help me complete this stressful task. one of girlfriend has offered, not even offered she just said "well lets do it then, we can get this done" and she is my Sag Soul Sister. we are 5 days apart in age.

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I honestly just like helping people, introducing good karma into the world, and just trying to be a good person to people that need it.

I don't need or expect anything in return as I give freely. I have noticed it does mind-phuck people because they are used to selfishness, and subsequently I end up getting things I wasn't expecting in the long run.
Thank you for sharing. That is good to know 🙂

I was raised by a mom who always said, "I am doing x for you now so when I am old, you need to do x for me too." Therefore, I always feel a bit skeptical when people offer to help without expecting anything in return.
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as a sag I do favors or offer my help whenever I can and as long is I can.

but I wouldn't say it means I don't expect something in return.

I would just hope that when I really need a friend or some help that that person is present to see it and able to help me. because 100% I have the hardest time asking for help.

and although I feel like that's a good thing because I feel impowered and capable and proud of myself

I also hate it because sometime things can be so hard and I wish people just noticed and wanted to be there for me when I need them the most.

hardly ever happens tho.

for me atleast


Thank you so much for sharing! Now that I think of it, I cannot even recall a time when a sag friend asks for help. I feel they might feel too embarrassed to ask... Hmmm, I wonder if there are any signs of stress that I should watch for, so that I can offer help without them having to ask 😕


I mean don't expect them to accept help without them saying "no, its ok"

personally for me I never ask for help, I don't want to burden anyone with my drama, I don't want people to think im weak or incapable. ill tell you think, when im going thru thing or I have stresses. ill being them uppp. for example...

im about to fix up my house to rent it out.

I am so stressed because I don't have the time or patients to be hands on

but I don't have the money to be hiring everyone to do think I can technically do.

I have asked no one for help. but I have express that im stressed and that I have all this to accomplish

and I assume if someone is listening to me, and cares about me and wants me to succeed that they would offer to help me complete this stressful task. one of girlfriend has offered, not even offered she just said "well lets do it then, we can get this done" and she is my Sag Soul Sister. we are 5 days apart in age.



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This is very helpful 🙂

I guess next time if my sag friends mention they have been very busy or have a lot on their plate, I will offer something 🙂
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as a sag I do favors or offer my help whenever I can and as long is I can.

but I wouldn't say it means I don't expect something in return.

I would just hope that when I really need a friend or some help that that person is present to see it and able to help me. because 100% I have the hardest time asking for help.

and although I feel like that's a good thing because I feel impowered and capable and proud of myself

I also hate it because sometime things can be so hard and I wish people just noticed and wanted to be there for me when I need them the most.

hardly ever happens tho.

for me atleast


Thank you so much for sharing! Now that I think of it, I cannot even recall a time when a sag friend asks for help. I feel they might feel too embarrassed to ask... Hmmm, I wonder if there are any signs of stress that I should watch for, so that I can offer help without them having to ask 😕

we like to believe we can do anything and without anyone's help 😆 obviously that's not possible...but asking for help is really difficult. I'm not even sure how it's done actually lol only one I do ask for help when I need is my mom lol anyone else just feels awkward but people can sense when you need help and offer to help in my experience at least. So I believe your friend doesn't need much help as it is and you would probably be able to notice if he does 🙂

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Thank you! My friend is the only child in his family so he did tell me he's used to do everything on his own... very self-sufficient type of person. I guess it is safe for me to assume he doesn't need much help.... or maybe he just hides himself away from the world when he does go through stressful/difficult time. He is very laid back and soft-spoken so it is very hard to tell his stress level... Or maybe I just need to be more observant :p
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I honestly just like helping people, introducing good karma into the world, and just trying to be a good person to people that need it.

I don't need or expect anything in return as I give freely. I have noticed it does mind-phuck people because they are used to selfishness, and subsequently I end up getting things I wasn't expecting in the long run.
Thank you for sharing. That is good to know 🙂

I was raised by a mom who always said, "I am doing x for you now so when I am old, you need to do x for me too." Therefore, I always feel a bit skeptical when people offer to help without expecting anything in return.
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I hate when people give with expectations. I personally feel it devalues the good deed. Seems like a selfish act instead of one of caring.
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