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Is it true that when scorpios are treated wrong (i.e. you give someone yourself fully and they don't give the same in return plus start thinking they can use you) they withdraw completely BUT even if you win them back they never become that warm and affectionate self they used to be. They remain cold, withdrawn, indifferent and emotionless? I am scorpio myself and my bf won me back but I just don't feel like touchy feely, wholeheartedly in love anymore even if I decided to give him a chance and he would give me the world if he could. I know that I will never be that woman I used to be anymore. I will never love him unconditionally anymore.

Sooo... My question is it just me or it's a common scorpio trait? It would be very interesting to hear from other scorpios.
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Posted by HighPriestess
Is it true that when scorpios are treated wrong (i.e. you give someone yourself fully and they don't give the same in return plus start thinking they can use you) they withdraw completely BUT even if you win them back they never become that warm and affectionate self they used to be. They remain cold, withdrawn, indifferent and emotionless? I am scorpio myself and my bf won me back but I just don't feel like touchy feely, wholeheartedly in love anymore even if I decided to give him a chance and he would give me the world if he could. I know that I will never be that woman I used to be anymore. I will never love him unconditionally anymore.

Sooo... My question is it just me or it's a common scorpio trait? It would be very interesting to hear from other scorpios.
By treated wrong - what do you mean? Like cheated on?
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I think so. I've experienced this with 3 Scorps. They'd make a move on me (they'd put their all into it) and I would respond in a way that came off I guess to them as unappreciative when really I was just shocked, nervous, insecure, self conscious ect.... and didn't know how to respond. I've gotten the same reaction from all of them. Withdraw. It's like nothing ever even happened. I feel so bad about it bc I really was interested, flattered and I did appreciate it but my social awkwardness gives off the wrong impression.
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Is it true that when scorpios are treated wrong (i.e. you give someone yourself fully and they don't give the same in return plus start thinking they can use you) they withdraw completely BUT even if you win them back they never become that warm and affectionate self they used to be. They remain cold, withdrawn, indifferent and emotionless? I am scorpio myself and my bf won me back but I just don't feel like touchy feely, wholeheartedly in love anymore even if I decided to give him a chance and he would give me the world if he could. I know that I will never be that woman I used to be anymore. I will never love him unconditionally anymore.

Sooo... My question is it just me or it's a common scorpio trait? It would be very interesting to hear from other scorpios.
By treated wrong - what do you mean? Like cheated on?
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Nope. Just being used. My not-so-ex-anymore used me- I was caring, giving, forgiving, supporting, loving, attentive, lovey-dovey and all those things you can think of and guess what- he gladly took it all. Now guess what he gave me in return? Yes- n.o.t.h.i.n.g. I was left alone when I needed anyone, someone the most- when I had severe depression and became suicidal. Yes. I was left all by myself.
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Is it true that when scorpios are treated wrong (i.e. you give someone yourself fully and they don't give the same in return plus start thinking they can use you) they withdraw completely BUT even if you win them back they never become that warm and affectionate self they used to be. They remain cold, withdrawn, indifferent and emotionless? I am scorpio myself and my bf won me back but I just don't feel like touchy feely, wholeheartedly in love anymore even if I decided to give him a chance and he would give me the world if he could. I know that I will never be that woman I used to be anymore. I will never love him unconditionally anymore.

Sooo... My question is it just me or it's a common scorpio trait? It would be very interesting to hear from other scorpios.
By treated wrong - what do you mean? Like cheated on?
Nope. Just being used. My not-so-ex-anymore used me- I was caring, giving, forgiving, supporting, loving, attentive, lovey-dovey and all those things you can think of and guess what- he gladly took it all. Now guess what he gave me in return? Yes- n.o.t.h.i.n.g. I was left alone when I needed anyone, someone the most- when I had severe depression and became suicidal. Yes. I was left all by myself.
Let me guess. He didnt talk to you for a day or 2. Now you've gone cold blooded on him.

Zzz..
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Let me clarify that to you- he wasn't affectionate, he wasn't supportive, he wasn't understanding, he demanded more and more without giving anything at all for 4 fucking years.
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Sorry but I have to comment because my wife is a Scorpio. I guess it's true its like they hold grudges. Anyway what I don't understand is the way a Scorpio shows love confuses me its like they do it in a superficial kind of way meaning its not a concern to them if the other person is dealing with something complicated in their life they leave you to emotionally fend for yourself kisses hugs and sex is enough for them to get by. I think that is why alot of them get cheated on.
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Sorry but I have to comment because my wife is a Scorpio. I guess it's true its like they hold grudges. Anyway what I don't understand is the way a Scorpio shows love confuses me its like they do it in a superficial kind of way meaning its not a concern to them if the other person is dealing with something complicated in their life they leave you to emotionally fend for yourself kisses hugs and sex is enough for them to get by. I think that is why alot of them get cheated on.
Hmm. Thre's a lot of truth in your words but at the same time I feel the need to put my two in it. Scorpio may tell you every single day how much they love you, they may repeat it 10 times a day but every. single. time they'll mean it with all their heart. When scorpio stops loving you he stops saying that to you. So if scorpio repeats how much he loves you don't think that feelings are shallow. Just know that they love you to the moon and back.
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Is it true that when scorpios are treated wrong (i.e. you give someone yourself fully and they don't give the same in return plus start thinking they can use you) they withdraw completely BUT even if you win them back they never become that warm and affectionate self they used to be. They remain cold, withdrawn, indifferent and emotionless? I am scorpio myself and my bf won me back but I just don't feel like touchy feely, wholeheartedly in love anymore even if I decided to give him a chance and he would give me the world if he could. I know that I will never be that woman I used to be anymore. I will never love him unconditionally anymore.

Sooo... My question is it just me or it's a common scorpio trait? It would be very interesting to hear from other scorpios.
By treated wrong - what do you mean? Like cheated on?
Nope. Just being used. My not-so-ex-anymore used me- I was caring, giving, forgiving, supporting, loving, attentive, lovey-dovey and all those things you can think of and guess what- he gladly took it all. Now guess what he gave me in return? Yes- n.o.t.h.i.n.g. I was left alone when I needed anyone, someone the most- when I had severe depression and became suicidal. Yes. I was left all by myself.
Left all by yourself? You need to be to learn though....i have been single for 2yrs...the only way to heal is by being alone. So was he a Scorp too, Priestess?
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Nope. He's virgo sun, virgo moon. Awesome huh? 😢
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Posted by starlover
I am sure you will and have done but Scorps sometimes mature too quickly

Listen, you look gorgeous..........remember that and try not to let experiences hurt you too much (says she)....Plutonians so need to be alone for spells of time to heal....stay with it if you can girl


Thank you so much for your support 🙂 You're really nice. I think I'll be kind of alone- I won't let him in anymore- everything will be on the surface. Like crab said- superficial. There's no feeling of that- I don't feel that overwhelming love anymore.
P.S. I have approximately 65% of my chart aspects in scorpio- so true scorp here LOL
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Ive had some experience with Scorps. I feel like they get angry if they feel like you go against their wishes, or if you do something they deem as `wrong`.. but ultimately they're loving, sweet, caring, kind, and compassionate. My `mom` is a scorpio, she will get so mad when I go back to my Sagi lol, but then she won't talk a while, afterword when I wrote her again, because I can never stay away long, lol she is like `are you together?` and then she's angry again if I say yes, but eventually she will say, `I'm okay with it just want you to be happy and i love you.`

s`awwwwwwwww Just sweetest.

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also had a Virgo ex for three years. He cheated on me multiple times which I found out later...tried controlling me. If I went out with my friends he would be livid, call me 3-7 times in a row, leaving neurotic voicemails, texting nonstop. He always accused me of being the cheater, yet he was the one doing the cheating. How ironic. It was a weak decision to stick around, but I did manage to try, because he would cry when I broke up with him, so I would feel terrible and mean, then go back and start the draining process again. When I found out about all the cheating after all I did to support him, I grew cold. When I looked at him, it was not the person I saw and I was no longer blinded by what I wanted to see, and my eyes were opened to what was truly in front of me. Literally. It was like looking at an entirely different human being, and the emotions died on the spot. Since then, I have never really gotten attached to anyone. Seen a few guys here and there, but the 3 year relationship was emotionally draining and changed my emotional construct completely.
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I read through the thread and have to agree that it's difficult to tell when you've wronged a Scorpio. I think that everyone's idea of "support" is different. Virgos are very good at being there, like actually being there in the flesh. They're not good at emotional things. The biggest relationship asset that Scorps lack is the motivation and ability to translate a kind act or word from another person when it doesn't mirror their own way of showing care/love. Also, I get that Scorps love deeply and stay attached to who you guys love, but that "love" doesn't come across as warmly as you might think it does. It's the the difference between a belly laugh and a smile. In my opinion Scorps think they're being all lovie dovie when it feels more like hanging out with a friend of the opposite sex.

With Scorps being so emotional, yet fixed, I think it takes having either a more emotionally flexible or even more rigid partner to balance things out.
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Yes- that was the worst. Virgos always want you to be her for them, they want you to do all the giving and they will more than happily take. But when they themselves have to give... Nu-uh. Never. They just withdraw and leave you cope with your problems alone. They're never there. I don't know why they are this way but they are. Maybe because they lack empathy and emotional depth just as someone already said.... I don't know.
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Posted by HighPriestess
I was caring, giving, forgiving, supporting, loving, attentive, lovey-dovey and all those things you can think of.
Do you want a cross too?

lmao @ people blinded by the light of 1000 positive attributes and not seeing the shadow behind it, usually as large as the source of light.

Control is what you got off on. There is no other reason for someone who was caring, giving, forgiving, supporting, loving, attentive, saint mary, lovey-dovey and all of those things we can think of..to put up with a loser.

Yet you took him back. Who is the deceitful party here? The upfront douchebag who didn't give a damn for 4 years and was genuine in not giving a damn..or someone who takes him back to bitch about unconditional love broken? After all, you knew every step of the way he was a douchebag.

Genuine people don't go overboard in self praise, in order to antagonize the "villain" completely 😉. Transparency 101.
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Posted by Damnata Yet you took him back. Who is the deceitful party here? The upfront douchebag who didn't give a damn for 4 years and was genuine in not giving a damn..or someone who takes him back to bitch about unconditional love broken? After all, you knew every step of the way he was a douchebag.

Genuine people don't go overboard in self praise, in order to antagonize the "villain" completely 😉. Transparency 101.
Now that was calling out on a red carpet right there^^^ Couldn't have said it any better. I'd like to add, when one person expects the other person to be a bandaid in a relationship, that relationship is ultimately going to take a shit. Especially when the other person (Virgo) is mentally healthy. Unless of course he has a doctorate in Pyschology. Depression and suicidal thoughts is not the Virgo's problem here. Nor should he be expected to "fix" you. That is all up to you. Virgos (males) are the rock in a relationship when it comes to helping out with chores, fixing something that's broke, (NO..not you), or assisting with input on ideas and stategizing. They are very much capable of emotions, showing love and loyalty. However, when they see something is wrong upstairs with someone they will always step back and let the other person figure shit out. That's not their thing.

You need to get your shit together by yoursellf and realize it's not his job to FIX you. Be sure if you don't, he'll make things easy for you and walk away so that you do.
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Posted by HighPriestess
Thank you so much for your support 🙂 You're really nice. I think I'll be kind of alone- I won't let him in anymore- everything will be on the surface. Like crab said- superficial. There's no feeling of that- I don't feel that overwhelming love anymore.

So you will stay with him.. but only passive-aggressively?

Yeah that'll teach him! Lol
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...Honestly love changes. People will let you down, they'll hurt you and/or circumstances will just fuck yall both over and it's no one's fault.... I think it's a little naive and unfair to believe your partner or family must always provide in the capacity you need. That doesn't leave a whole lot of room for people to be themselves or be human and make mistakes.

You will have to cope with some things alone in life, trying to avoid that fact will only cause you to delay learning how to go it on your own. Sometimes we need to learn to be strong by ourselves. So you can't always fault others for not being there when you need them or want them to be. Sometimes a struggle is so individual it is impossible for anyone else to comprehend.
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do you not know where the door is and how to use one? some people like to suffer. they know they are dealing with someone they deem as a douche, yet instead of breaking free, they stay and complain.

our love is not for everyone. it didnt work out. are you going to stay and complain or make life work for you? i dont get holding grudges neither. some people here are just LOL! for exes for scorps - you broke up with a scorpio. you should be be happy you are free. but you're so miserable you come here and still bitch about scorpio instead of being happy. some of you just want to be miserable fucks, so dont blame it on anyone else.
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I think so. I've experienced this with 3 Scorps. They'd make a move on me (they'd put their all into it) and I would respond in a way that came off I guess to them as unappreciative when really I was just shocked, nervous, insecure, self conscious ect.... and didn't know how to respond. I've gotten the same reaction from all of them. Withdraw. It's like nothing ever even happened. I feel so bad about it bc I really was interested, flattered and I did appreciate it but my social awkwardness gives off the wrong impression.
I think it has less to do with social awkwardness and more to do with you being uncomfortable with these type of males and their style of dating.
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OP is a Scorpio.

She broke it off and then got back together with a Virgo.
I think LadyYin knows:
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for exes for scorps ....
I believe she was identifying the OP and the bellyachers that pop in almost every thread to b*tch. Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:

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I find that most people who go on diatribes...lack self-awareness and are always looking for someone to blame.

But if you want to overlook a whole subset of individuals. Carry on. Meanwhile all of them will be living their lives not giving a fuck.
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OP is a Scorpio.

She broke it off and then got back together with a Virgo.
I didn't have the heart to break it to them.
After I posted I thought about it. They could be referencing the anti Scorpio fan club in the first couple pages instead of OP.

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.....I should have read further along before posting.
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I work with a scorpio girl and i thought very highly of her. Then one day an assignment was due and she was pretty impatient and threw me under the bus.

There was an immediate withdraw from my end. I dont hold grudges. I just feel like if someone shows you who you are, you should believe them.

She was a douche for that and why would i want to associate with a douche
When a Scorpio gets scared they will do that my ex boss a Scorpio man threw me under the bus WTF where is the loyalty there I was tree trunking angry.
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Good thread. Just a thought I had about Scorpio withdrawing and second chances. Maybe part of it is that like Elle has said before, a Scorpio will go all in and that means complete trust, everything. If something happens that rocks that trust--be it even suspicions because let's face it Scorpios ultimately trust their intuition and will follow that lead--there is then a tendency toward overthinking sprinkled with a bit of paranoia. While we are happily thinking our partner is god's gift to mankind, paranoia doesn't factor in. It's not until the rose colored glasses come off a bit, that the mind considers every possible motivation, some not so good. Like for instance, a scorp might meditate on the darker side of the partner and break that down into pieces. Analyzing each piece and what that means about their character.

Before the trust issue, even the dark side may have been viewed lovingly. After--well maybe their dark side could cheat or play the scorp or hurt us. Something we may never had before considered.

So when the time for a second chance does come around, it is possible that the scorpio is still--maybe even unconsciously--being influenced by the thinking and paranoia of the down-time. And unless, like Elly said, a determined effort is made to completely erase the down time thinking, then a real second chance is not feasible. If real feelings are there and there is a determination to make it work, it can happen. Nothing beats a heart to heart HONEST apology with each side taking full responsibility for the part they played. Scorpio wants always to get to the heart of the matter--if the partner's views are shallow or not genuine about whatever the issue, then most scorpios will eventually end it for good, I think.

Also, if a second chance comes around and instincts tell the scorp to stay withdrawn and unavailable, then maybe during down time, that scorp concluded that it wasn't really love. A lot of Scorpios have Libra parts built in, so once the love is gone, the scorpio might go into an ending it gracefully period which may be confusing to the other person. It's like a "not going to work, but I don't want to hurt you" period which may become protracted as the Scorpio moves forward on their exit strategy.

Not in any way validating this by the way. Only trying to bring forward
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Posted by IrresistableScorp
Good thread. Just a thought I had about Scorpio withdrawing and second chances. Maybe part of it is that like Elle has said before, a Scorpio will go all in and that means complete trust, everything. If something happens that rocks that trust--be it even suspicions because let's face it Scorpios ultimately trust their intuition and will follow that lead--there is then a tendency toward overthinking sprinkled with a bit of paranoia. While we are happily thinking our partner is god's gift to mankind, paranoia doesn't factor in. It's not until the rose colored glasses come off a bit, that the mind considers every possible motivation, some not so good. Like for instance, a scorp might meditate on the darker side of the partner and break that down into pieces. Analyzing each piece and what that means about their character.

Before the trust issue, even the dark side may have been viewed lovingly. After--well maybe their dark side could cheat or play the scorp or hurt us. Something we may never had before considered.

So when the time for a second chance does come around, it is possible that the scorpio is still--maybe even unconsciously--being influenced by the thinking and paranoia of the down-time. And unless, like Elly said, a determined effort is made to completely erase the down time thinking, then a real second chance is not feasible. If real feelings are there and there is a determination to make it work, it can happen. Nothing beats a heart to heart HONEST apology with each side taking full responsibility for the part they played. Scorpio wants always to get to the heart of the matter--if the partner's views are shallow or not genuine about whatever the issue, then most scorpios will eventually end it for good, I think.

Also, if a second chance comes around and instincts tell the scorp to stay withdrawn and unavailable, then maybe during down time, that scorp concluded that it wasn't really love. A lot of Scorpios have Libra parts built in, so once the love is gone, the scorpio might go into an ending it gracefully period which may be confusing to the other person. It's like a "not going to work, but I don't want to hurt you" period which may become protracted as the Scorpio moves forward on their exit strategy.

Not in any way validating this by the way. Only trying to bring forward
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It is true HighPriestess, however it could go both ways.

Change does not always equate to a lack of love, the love for the person may have grown into something different. However, that "difference" may be the very determining emotional factor as to whether or not I choose to remain with the person. Love is never stagnant, it grows, it changes just as much as an individual does. Life will throw many experiences at us and just because what we feel may not categorically feel "right" nor does it fit into a neatly labelled box. It should not stop us from exploring it.

Give it some time, feel it out, push yourself out beyond those walls of self-preservation and see if you will find something a new, a feeling perhaps you may not have had before. The new feeling may confuse you and you may misintepret it as a lack of love, or a lesser love but it may simply be a love that have evolved.


Love can be equated to a battlefield of scars, each one changes the landscape of what we see, but it does not change what it fundamentally is.


The only time I know, without a doubt, that the love is gone, is when I can never look at the person the same way again and I can no longer stand to bear their touch. It would be a mixture of feeling revolted and indifferent all at once. By that time, it would be time to go, even the self-preservation and inner sanctum will no longer be enough to re-heat the embers of love.


Otherwise, if it is anything less extreme than what is stated just above, then I accept all as a development, as another page of an ever growing bond between my love and I. After all, what is love without its flurry of colours, if it were simply black and white, I could have done without it. This is what makes it exciting, love changes colours.
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I work with a scorpio girl and i thought very highly of her. Then one day an assignment was due and she was pretty impatient and threw me under the bus.

There was an immediate withdraw from my end. I dont hold grudges. I just feel like if someone shows you who you are, you should believe them.

She was a douche for that and why would i want to associate with a douche
When a Scorpio gets scared they will do that my ex boss a Scorpio man threw me under the bus WTF where is the loyalty there I was tree trunking angry.
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Its a one sided loyalty for some of them.

It was a jarring experience
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It is true HighPriestess, however it could go both ways.

Change does not always equate to a lack of love, the love for the person may have grown into something different. However, that "difference" may be the very determining emotional factor as to whether or not I choose to remain with the person. Love is never stagnant, it grows, it changes just as much as an individual does. Life will throw many experiences at us and just because what we feel may not categorically feel "right" nor does it fit into a neatly labelled box. It should not stop us from exploring it.

Give it some time, feel it out, push yourself out beyond those walls of self-preservation and see if you will find something a new, a feeling perhaps you may not have had before. The new feeling may confuse you and you may misintepret it as a lack of love, or a lesser love but it may simply be a love that have evolved.


Love can be equated to a battlefield of scars, each one changes the landscape of what we see, but it does not change what it fundamentally is.


The only time I know, without a doubt, that the love is gone, is when I can never look at the person the same way again and I can no longer stand to bear their touch. It would be a mixture of feeling revolted and indifferent all at once. By that time, it would be time to go, even the self-preservation and inner sanctum will no longer be enough to re-heat the embers of love.


Otherwise, if it is anything less extreme than what is stated just above, then I accept all as a development, as another page of an ever growing bond between my love and I. After all, what is love without its flurry of colours, if it were simply black and white, I could have done without it. This is what makes it exciting, love changes colours.
I am not sure now if I will be able to bear his touch or not. I think I won't be disgusted but I will be cold to it- nonresponding.
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Posted by IrresistableScorp
Good thread. Just a thought I had about Scorpio withdrawing and second chances. Maybe part of it is that like Elle has said before, a Scorpio will go all in and that means complete trust, everything. If something happens that rocks that trust--be it even suspicions because let's face it Scorpios ultimately trust their intuition and will follow that lead--there is then a tendency toward overthinking sprinkled with a bit of paranoia. While we are happily thinking our partner is god's gift to mankind, paranoia doesn't factor in. It's not until the rose colored glasses come off a bit, that the mind considers every possible motivation, some not so good. Like for instance, a scorp might meditate on the darker side of the partner and break that down into pieces. Analyzing each piece and what that means about their character.

Before the trust issue, even the dark side may have been viewed lovingly. After--well maybe their dark side could cheat or play the scorp or hurt us. Something we may never had before considered.

So when the time for a second chance does come around, it is possible that the scorpio is still--maybe even unconsciously--being influenced by the thinking and paranoia of the down-time. And unless, like Elly said, a determined effort is made to completely erase the down time thinking, then a real second chance is not feasible. If real feelings are there and there is a determination to make it work, it can happen. Nothing beats a heart to heart HONEST apology with each side taking full responsibility for the part they played. Scorpio wants always to get to the heart of the matter--if the partner's views are shallow or not genuine about whatever the issue, then most scorpios will eventually end it for good, I think.

Also, if a second chance comes around and instincts tell the scorp to stay withdrawn and unavailable, then maybe during down time, that scorp concluded that it wasn't really love. A lot of Scorpios have Libra parts built in, so once the love is gone, the scorpio might go into an ending it gracefully period which may be confusing to the other person. It's like a "not going to work, but I don't want to hurt you" period which may become protracted as the Scorpio moves forward on their exit strategy.

Not in any way validating this by the way. Only trying to bring forward