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Posted by Astrobyn
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?
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In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.
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so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?
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I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️
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if the only option cam down to you taking power or relinquishing that power to Hypnotad, Soul, or Kimboslice. What would you do?
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Posted by Astrobyn
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Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by LostinmyMind11

Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

if the only option cam down to you taking power or relinquishing that power to Hypnotad, Soul, or Kimboslice. What would you do?
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Only acceptable answer is us working together...like actually working together.
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Posted by Astrobyn
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Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by LostinmyMind11

Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️
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would you ever have a child?
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Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by LostinmyMind11

Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

if the only option cam down to you taking power or relinquishing that power to Hypnotad, Soul, or Kimboslice. What would you do?

Only acceptable answer is us working together...like actually working together.
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the men have made it clear that has never and will never be an option.
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Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by LostinmyMind11

Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?
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Wtf does that matter?
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Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by LostinmyMind11
Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by LostinmyMind11

Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

if the only option cam down to you taking power or relinquishing that power to Hypnotad, Soul, or Kimboslice. What would you do?

Only acceptable answer is us working together...like actually working together.

the men have made it clear that has never and will never be an option.
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What men? The men you listed? You're getting a little too invested in a hypothetical question which kinda proves my previous point.
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Posted by Astrobyn
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Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by LostinmyMind11

Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

if the only option cam down to you taking power or relinquishing that power to Hypnotad, Soul, or Kimboslice. What would you do?

Only acceptable answer is us working together...like actually working together.

the men have made it clear that has never and will never be an option.

No that's you. Definitely not part of our working leadership team either.

The fact that you couldn't take LIMMs answer at face value and you had to try niggle out an angle to get her to answer how you wanted highlights that quite well.
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I believe that she’s lived in a society that didn't value her gifts. And in this society she maybe correct in her thinking. But here to build a new muther fuckin reality, an Advanced society, by advancing humanity.
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Posted by Astrobyn
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Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by LostinmyMind11

Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?
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well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?
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Posted by Astrobyn
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Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by LostinmyMind11

Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?
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Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!
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The sickness of the patriarchy has corrupted women too. But that's a nice thought.

i see my friends, miserable, accepting it, better to be married than alone. i don't want to talk about it with them, but they want so much to whine, no way. either accept it, to be submissive, cool, or leave me alone to be a "feminist".
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We are all products of our environment. Hard to shake indoctrination from birth even when it means supporting things that limit your own freedoms and rights as a woman. Shit not even about gender… as a human.
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Posted by Astrobyn
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!
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i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?
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Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by LostinmyMind11
Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by LostinmyMind11

Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?
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Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.
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Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by LostinmyMind11

Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.
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really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.
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Posted by Astrobyn
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.
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Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?
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Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by LostinmyMind11
Posted by Astrobyn
Posted by LostinmyMind11

Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?
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Well in the work force they get to leave early” child care issues” studies showed the work less than a single women and ok to miss more work for child issues , after school and games. So yeah they have an upper hand over single women with no children
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?
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a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.

i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.

i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.

i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?

Well in the work force they get to leave early” child care issues” studies showed the work less than a single women and ok to miss more work for child issues , after school and games. So yeah they have an upper hand over single women with no children
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Maybe the leaving early but that's been far in few between. Only upper hand I see.. is during tax season. Still don't consider that a position of power in the least bit.
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!
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I feel like your perception of power is coming from a man's point of view, it's hard to imagine it as something different. But that's exactly what we plan to do as we advance humanity.
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?

a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.

i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.

i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.

i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.
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And my point reigns on ....

And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

I feel like your perception of power is coming from a man's point of view, it's hard to imagine it as something different. But that's exactly what we plan to do as we advance humanity.
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No...it's coming from my point of view as a human
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?

a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.

i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.

i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.

i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.

And my point reigns on ....

And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻
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ok, thanks for not answering the question.
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?

a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.

i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.

i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.

i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.

And my point reigns on ....

And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻

ok, thanks for not answering the question.
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There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?

a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.

i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.

i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.

i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.

And my point reigns on ....

And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻

ok, thanks for not answering the question.

There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.
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true, i think you're not seeing it.
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Imma say my final thoughts on the matter...until we rise up as one...men/women etc .. there will never be peace in the world, nothing will ever get accomplished and change of any sort will be a very long dragged out road. The end.

This is why the aliens won't land and talk to us face to face. 🤭
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Do you blame them?! ..hell, I'm hoping I can hop a ride one day 😆
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?

a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.

i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.

i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.

i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.

And my point reigns on ....

And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻

ok, thanks for not answering the question.

There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.

true, i think you're not seeing it.
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I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼‍♀️
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Imma say my final thoughts on the matter...until we rise up as one...men/women etc .. there will never be peace in the world, nothing will ever get accomplished and change of any sort will be a very long dragged out road. The end.

This is why the aliens won't land and talk to us face to face. 🤭

Do you blame them?! ..hell, I'm hoping I can hop a ride one day 😆

If they don't have chocolate where they are from, no dice.
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Imma have to agree with you there for sure lol. I needs the chocolate!!
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?

a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.

i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.

i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.

i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.

And my point reigns on ....

And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻

ok, thanks for not answering the question.

There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.

true, i think you're not seeing it.

I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼‍♀️
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no. it was a question asked sincerely.

that you don't see that a parent/guardian is a position of power to a child (even just for their basic day to day needs - sleep, clothing, security, food) and that you consider that an outlandish proposition means that the conversation is moot. instead that you contend that a baby raises itself 'to an extent' leaves me nowhere else to go in the conversation.

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This is what I don't understand... When a woman doesn't agree with other women...they "attack" (not quite the word I want to use but you get the gist) like vultures and try to influence them just because we share a similarity...a vagina.

Again...proves my point all over again.


it's just a discussion. if you are feeling defensive, there is no need to be.
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?

a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.

i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.

i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.

i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.

And my point reigns on ....

And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻

ok, thanks for not answering the question.

There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.

true, i think you're not seeing it.

I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼‍♀️

no. it was a question asked sincerely.

that you don't see that a parent/guardian is a position of power to a child (even just for their basic day to day needs - sleep, clothing, security, food) and that you consider that an outlandish proposition means that the conversation is moot. instead that you contend that a baby raises itself 'to an extent' leaves me nowhere else to go in the conversation.
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I'm wondering where you got where I said a baby? I didn't specify an age range. You auto assumed that...like we don't continue to raise ourselves as we age. That's the ultimate goal as a parent is it not... Raising a child to be self sufficient, able to make the right choices for them etc etc....so if you wanna go by your little definition of power in child raising...well, it's pretty short lived or at least it should be.
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This is what I don't understand... When a woman doesn't agree with other women...they "attack" (not quite the word I want to use but you get the gist) like vultures and try to influence them just because we share a similarity...a vagina.

Again...proves my point all over again.

it's just a discussion. if you are feeling defensive, there is no need to be.
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Just stating a fact. Simple as that.
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?

a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.

i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.

i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.

i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.

And my point reigns on ....

And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻

ok, thanks for not answering the question.

There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.

true, i think you're not seeing it.

I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼‍♀️

no. it was a question asked sincerely.

that you don't see that a parent/guardian is a position of power to a child (even just for their basic day to day needs - sleep, clothing, security, food) and that you consider that an outlandish proposition means that the conversation is moot. instead that you contend that a baby raises itself 'to an extent' leaves me nowhere else to go in the conversation.

I'm wondering where you got where I said a baby? I didn't specify an age range. You auto assumed that...like we don't continue to raise ourselves as we age. That's the ultimate goal as a parent is it not... Raising a child to be self sufficient, able to make the right choices for them etc etc....so if you wanna go by your little definition of power in child raising...well, it's pretty short lived or at least it should be.
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i said it in my original question.

and for someone who is feeling attacked (or something like it), you can stop with the condescension and sarcasm. i've only been respectful to you. very little to ask that you treat me the same way.
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?

a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.

i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.

i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.

i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.

And my point reigns on ....

And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻

ok, thanks for not answering the question.

There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.

true, i think you're not seeing it.

I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼‍♀️

no. it was a question asked sincerely.

that you don't see that a parent/guardian is a position of power to a child (even just for their basic day to day needs - sleep, clothing, security, food) and that you consider that an outlandish proposition means that the conversation is moot. instead that you contend that a baby raises itself 'to an extent' leaves me nowhere else to go in the conversation.

I'm wondering where you got where I said a baby? I didn't specify an age range. You auto assumed that...like we don't continue to raise ourselves as we age. That's the ultimate goal as a parent is it not... Raising a child to be self sufficient, able to make the right choices for them etc etc....so if you wanna go by your little definition of power in child raising...well, it's pretty short lived or at least it should be.

i said it in my original question.

and for someone who is feeling attacked (or something like it), you can stop with the condescension and sarcasm. i've only been respectful to you. very little to ask that you treat me the same way.
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Ummm...I'm just being me and having a discussion. Idk why you're projecting that on to me for but that's fine. One could say tho...a couple quotes back...you were kinda condescending and sarcastic yourself but I didn't take it as such 🤷🏼‍♀️.

"really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok."

"i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex"



I love the fact tho...I put attacked in quotations and even explained and you still choose to try and use that as some thing to get me on 😆🤦🏼‍♀️.
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I don't agree with y'all...simple as that and I'm not sure why it's gotten as far as it has but just proves my original point. Just like any discussion containing just women...it starts to resort to projections and soon name calling will be the next go to when you can't emotionally manipulating the situation to your advantage. Y'all must of forgot...I'm a woman too and know the game 🤦🏼‍♀️
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?

a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.

i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.

i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.

i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.

And my point reigns on ....

And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻

ok, thanks for not answering the question.

There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.

true, i think you're not seeing it.

I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼‍♀️

no. it was a question asked sincerely.

that you don't see that a parent/guardian is a position of power to a child (even just for their basic day to day needs - sleep, clothing, security, food) and that you consider that an outlandish proposition means that the conversation is moot. instead that you contend that a baby raises itself 'to an extent' leaves me nowhere else to go in the conversation.

I'm wondering where you got where I said a baby? I didn't specify an age range. You auto assumed that...like we don't continue to raise ourselves as we age. That's the ultimate goal as a parent is it not... Raising a child to be self sufficient, able to make the right choices for them etc etc....so if you wanna go by your little definition of power in child raising...well, it's pretty short lived or at least it should be.

i said it in my original question.

and for someone who is feeling attacked (or something like it), you can stop with the condescension and sarcasm. i've only been respectful to you. very little to ask that you treat me the same way.

Ummm...I'm just being me and having a discussion. Idk why you're projecting that on to me for but that's fine. One could say tho...a couple quotes back...you were kinda condescending and sarcastic yourself but I didn't take it as such 🤷🏼‍♀️.

"really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok."

"i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex"



I love the fact tho...I put attacked in quotations and even explained and you still choose to try and use that as some thing to get me on 😆🤦🏼‍♀️.
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not sarcastic or condescending at all. genuine and sincere way of trying to examine your position. my point isn't complex and yet you struggle to understand it or as you say "see it".

however speaking about my parents, saying "i don't know about those struggles", calling my definition "little" is.

i didn't "try and use that as some thing to get you on" but instead explain that this is just a discussion. nothing more, nothing less. that you ascribe my intention in this several times without actually knowing me is coming off as quite arrogant.

do you find yourself as a perpetual victim in life or just in this discussion?
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

The two aren't exactly the same. The context of LIMM's post suggests two or more independent functioning adults, where they don't depend on another adult to survive in a neutral setting. With complete absence of power, the two adults can coexist with each other. In the parent-child relation, the complete absence of power would mean the child would not survive because the child doesn't know better.
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you could say that but i don't think that is what she is saying. she says she doesn't see how being a parent is a position of power.
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?

a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.

i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.

i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.

i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.

And my point reigns on ....

And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻

ok, thanks for not answering the question.

There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.

true, i think you're not seeing it.

I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼‍♀️

no. it was a question asked sincerely.

that you don't see that a parent/guardian is a position of power to a child (even just for their basic day to day needs - sleep, clothing, security, food) and that you consider that an outlandish proposition means that the conversation is moot. instead that you contend that a baby raises itself 'to an extent' leaves me nowhere else to go in the conversation.

I'm wondering where you got where I said a baby? I didn't specify an age range. You auto assumed that...like we don't continue to raise ourselves as we age. That's the ultimate goal as a parent is it not... Raising a child to be self sufficient, able to make the right choices for them etc etc....so if you wanna go by your little definition of power in child raising...well, it's pretty short lived or at least it should be.

i said it in my original question.

and for someone who is feeling attacked (or something like it), you can stop with the condescension and sarcasm. i've only been respectful to you. very little to ask that you treat me the same way.

Ummm...I'm just being me and having a discussion. Idk why you're projecting that on to me for but that's fine. One could say tho...a couple quotes back...you were kinda condescending and sarcastic yourself but I didn't take it as such 🤷🏼‍♀️.

"really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok."

"i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex"



I love the fact tho...I put attacked in quotations and even explained and you still choose to try and use that as some thing to get me on 😆🤦🏼‍♀️.

not sarcastic or condescending at all. genuine and sincere way of trying to examine your position. my point isn't complex and yet you struggle to understand it or as you say "see it".

however speaking about my parents, saying "i don't know about those struggles", calling my definition "little" is.

i didn't "try and use that as some thing to get you on" but instead explain that this is just a discussion. nothing more, nothing less. that you ascribe my intention in this several times without actually knowing me is coming off as quite arrogant.

do you find yourself as a perpetual victim in life or just in this discussion?
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I just spoke to you like you spoke to me 🤷🏼‍♀️. I'm not sure what else you want...but the projections are cute. Now that was being sarcastic which I will continue with.... Really now ..and you know me? Weird!

End sarcasm....you've made a lot of assumptions and projections in this discussion and frankly seem upset that I don't agree with your opinion on the subject...that's very clear as we continue to go round and round and then the accusations of my apparent ill intent towards you while you play the innocent angel card. That about sums it up for me 🤷🏼‍♀️
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Bravo everyone, bravo! This thread is exactly what dxpnet use to be! Complete toxicity and turmoil! What a turn out for Advancing Humanity! It's so perfect. I can only wonder if the author/ OPs intentions were to actually advance humanity, or watch it burn 🤣

Or maybe they thought it would turn out differently? It makes no difference. Their actions made people hate each other more then they do lol! Talk about a real devils advocate.

Are you gonna chime in an say how it was all a joke and your sorry lmao!!!!

Na, you enjoy watching this shit show don't you?
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?

a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.

i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.

i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.

i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.

And my point reigns on ....

And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻

ok, thanks for not answering the question.

There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.

true, i think you're not seeing it.

I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼‍♀️

no. it was a question asked sincerely.

that you don't see that a parent/guardian is a position of power to a child (even just for their basic day to day needs - sleep, clothing, security, food) and that you consider that an outlandish proposition means that the conversation is moot. instead that you contend that a baby raises itself 'to an extent' leaves me nowhere else to go in the conversation.

sure it's a position of power, but wanting to raise a child isn't about the desire to have power over that child.
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i agree. i'm not talking about motivation to have or raise a child.

but i asked the question because she said that she wouldn't accept a position of power because she feels she lives in her emotions too much.

i asked if that she applied that having a child as well.
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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.

do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?

In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.

so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?

I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼‍♀️

would you ever have a child?

Wtf does that matter?

well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.

since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?

Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!

i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.

so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?

Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?

And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.

really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?

ok.

Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.

So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?

a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.

i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.

i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.

i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.

And my point reigns on ....

And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻

ok, thanks for not answering the question.

There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.

true, i think you're not seeing it.

I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼‍♀️

no. it was a question asked sincerely.

that you don't see that a parent/guardian is a position of power to a child (even just for their basic day to day needs - sleep, clothing, security, food) and that you consider that an outlandish proposition means that the conversation is moot. instead that you contend that a baby raises itself 'to an extent' leaves me nowhere else to go in the conversation.

sure it's a position of power, but wanting to raise a child isn't about the desire to have power over that child.

i agree. i'm not talking about motivation to have or raise a child.

but i asked the question because she said that she wouldn't accept a position of power because she feels she lives in her emotions too much.

i asked if that she applied that having a child as well.
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Not quite what I meant. I wouldnt take a position of power because I'm not above or below anyone else. I believe in a balance....but now I see where your assumptions come from. That's not sarcasm nor being condescending before you say anything.
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I just spoke to you like you spoke to me 🤷🏼‍♀️. I'm not sure what else you want...but the projections are cute. Now that was being sarcastic which I will continue with.... Really now ..and you know me? Weird!

End sarcasm....you've made a lot of assumptions and projections in this discussion and frankly seem upset that I don't agree with your opinion on the subject...that's very clear as we continue to go round and round and then the accusations of my apparent ill intent towards you while you play the innocent angel card. That about sums it up for me 🤷🏼‍♀️


the bottom line is you are arguing a tough position. that a parent does not hold a position of power over their own child. i don't know how you argue that. like i said, it's a tough position to substantiate. to make the claim that a child is much more capable of raising itself than most people give credit or that once a child reaches maturity, then the parent has little to no influence (either direct or indirect) over them also is not what i have seen borne out in my experience.

if you are willing to put together an argument why you think this is the case, then i think that might add to the discussion (or not, could be a wild tangent). ultimately all this bluster, deflection, projection is because you can't argue that a parent doesn't hold a position of power.

ok, you don't agree. we are left with you wouldn't want a position of power because you feel you are too emotional.
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I just spoke to you like you spoke to me 🤷🏼‍♀️. I'm not sure what else you want...but the projections are cute. Now that was being sarcastic which I will continue with.... Really now ..and you know me? Weird!

End sarcasm....you've made a lot of assumptions and projections in this discussion and frankly seem upset that I don't agree with your opinion on the subject...that's very clear as we continue to go round and round and then the accusations of my apparent ill intent towards you while you play the innocent angel card. That about sums it up for me 🤷🏼‍♀️

the bottom line is you are arguing a tough position. that a parent does not hold a position of power over their own child. i don't know how you argue that. like i said, it's a tough position to substantiate. to make the claim that a child is much more capable of raising itself than most people give credit or that once a child reaches maturity, then the parent has little to no influence (either direct or indirect) over them also is not what i have seen borne out in my experience.

if you are willing to put together an argument why you think this is the case, then i think that might add to the discussion (or not, could be a wild tangent). ultimately all this bluster, deflection, projection is because you can't argue that a parent doesn't hold a position of power.

ok, you don't agree. we are left with you wouldn't want a position of power because you feel you are too emotional.
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But that wasn't my original stance...you're the one that keeps pushing the kid thing...like that is somehow magically the winning argument and nothing else matters here. And I know you read my other comment before making this one. I said that isn't what I meant re not wanting a position of power...I want balance... everything needs a balance...it's pretty damn simple.