
jeane
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Posted by LostinmyMind11Posted by jeanePosted by LostinmyMind11
I just spoke to you like you spoke to me 🤷🏼♀️. I'm not sure what else you want...but the projections are cute. Now that was being sarcastic which I will continue with.... Really now ..and you know me? Weird!
End sarcasm....you've made a lot of assumptions and projections in this discussion and frankly seem upset that I don't agree with your opinion on the subject...that's very clear as we continue to go round and round and then the accusations of my apparent ill intent towards you while you play the innocent angel card. That about sums it up for me 🤷🏼♀️
the bottom line is you are arguing a tough position. that a parent does not hold a position of power over their own child. i don't know how you argue that. like i said, it's a tough position to substantiate. to make the claim that a child is much more capable of raising itself than most people give credit or that once a child reaches maturity, then the parent has little to no influence (either direct or indirect) over them also is not what i have seen borne out in my experience.
if you are willing to put together an argument why you think this is the case, then i think that might add to the discussion (or not, could be a wild tangent). ultimately all this bluster, deflection, projection is because you can't argue that a parent doesn't hold a position of power.
ok, you don't agree. we are left with you wouldn't want a position of power because you feel you are too emotional.
But that wasn't my original stance...you're the one that keeps pushing the kid thing...like that is somehow magically the winning argument and nothing else matters here. And I know you read my other comment before making this one. I said that isn't what I meant re not wanting a position of power...I want balance... everything needs a balance...it's pretty damn simple.click to expand

Posted by poppyflowerPosted by jeane
the idea of balance is nice but it doesn't work.
I never thought I'd see a Libra say this. 😛click to expand

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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.
do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?
In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.
so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?
I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼♀️
would you ever have a child?
Wtf does that matter?
well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.
since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?
Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!
i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.
so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?
Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?
And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.
really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?
ok.
Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.
So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?
a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.
i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.
i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.
i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.
And my point reigns on ....
And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻
ok, thanks for not answering the question.
There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.
true, i think you're not seeing it.
I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼♀️
no. it was a question asked sincerely.
that you don't see that a parent/guardian is a position of power to a child (even just for their basic day to day needs - sleep, clothing, security, food) and that you consider that an outlandish proposition means that the conversation is moot. instead that you contend that a baby raises itself 'to an extent' leaves me nowhere else to go in the conversation.
sure it's a position of power, but wanting to raise a child isn't about the desire to have power over that child.
i agree. i'm not talking about motivation to have or raise a child.
but i asked the question because she said that she wouldn't accept a position of power because she feels she lives in her emotions too much.
i asked if that she applied that having a child as well.
Not quite what I meant. I wouldnt take a position of power because I'm not above or below anyone else. I believe in a balance....but now I see where your assumptions come from. That's not sarcasm nor being condescending before you say anything.
"We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse."
there cannot be balance in everything and at all times. someone must lead. that doesn't mean that is a static or stagnant position but someone has to chart the course.
i don't see what sex has to do with it, there are some very capable women leaders. there are some awful ones too just as there are awful male leaders. the idea of balance is nice but it doesn't work.
i run my own business. i take input from my employees, my customers, experts in the field but ultimately i make the decision as to the direction of my future. there is no balance. it's not a co-op (and even co-ops have leaders). on a wider level, it's interesting to imagine overthrowing the govt and leaders in solidarity but to be replaced by what? animal farm anyone?
the simple fact is that "we are the 99% " was a failure as a political movement.click to expand

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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.
do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?
In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.
so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?
I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼♀️
would you ever have a child?
Wtf does that matter?
well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.
since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?
Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!
i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.
so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?
Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?
And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.
really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?
ok.
Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.
So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?
a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.
i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.
i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.
i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.
And my point reigns on ....
And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻
ok, thanks for not answering the question.
There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.
true, i think you're not seeing it.
I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼♀️
no. it was a question asked sincerely.
that you don't see that a parent/guardian is a position of power to a child (even just for their basic day to day needs - sleep, clothing, security, food) and that you consider that an outlandish proposition means that the conversation is moot. instead that you contend that a baby raises itself 'to an extent' leaves me nowhere else to go in the conversation.
sure it's a position of power, but wanting to raise a child isn't about the desire to have power over that child.
i agree. i'm not talking about motivation to have or raise a child.
but i asked the question because she said that she wouldn't accept a position of power because she feels she lives in her emotions too much.
i asked if that she applied that having a child as well.
Not quite what I meant. I wouldnt take a position of power because I'm not above or below anyone else. I believe in a balance....but now I see where your assumptions come from. That's not sarcasm nor being condescending before you say anything.
"We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse."
there cannot be balance in everything and at all times. someone must lead. that doesn't mean that is a static or stagnant position but someone has to chart the course.
i don't see what sex has to do with it, there are some very capable women leaders. there are some awful ones too just as there are awful male leaders. the idea of balance is nice but it doesn't work.
i run my own business. i take input from my employees, my customers, experts in the field but ultimately i make the decision as to the direction of my future. there is no balance. it's not a co-op (and even co-ops have leaders). on a wider level, it's interesting to imagine overthrowing the govt and leaders in solidarity but to be replaced by what? animal farm anyone?
the simple fact is that "we are the 99% " was a failure as a political movement.
Us as women are too emotional...plain and simple. I said most women in power are just as bad...key words there...I'm not pinning one sex against the other. This is literally a hypothetical world... therefore in my version of the hypothetical...I see balance. I've already said my position in reality.click to expand

Posted by jeanePosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by jeanePosted by LostinmyMind11
I just spoke to you like you spoke to me 🤷🏼♀️. I'm not sure what else you want...but the projections are cute. Now that was being sarcastic which I will continue with.... Really now ..and you know me? Weird!
End sarcasm....you've made a lot of assumptions and projections in this discussion and frankly seem upset that I don't agree with your opinion on the subject...that's very clear as we continue to go round and round and then the accusations of my apparent ill intent towards you while you play the innocent angel card. That about sums it up for me 🤷🏼♀️
the bottom line is you are arguing a tough position. that a parent does not hold a position of power over their own child. i don't know how you argue that. like i said, it's a tough position to substantiate. to make the claim that a child is much more capable of raising itself than most people give credit or that once a child reaches maturity, then the parent has little to no influence (either direct or indirect) over them also is not what i have seen borne out in my experience.
if you are willing to put together an argument why you think this is the case, then i think that might add to the discussion (or not, could be a wild tangent). ultimately all this bluster, deflection, projection is because you can't argue that a parent doesn't hold a position of power.
ok, you don't agree. we are left with you wouldn't want a position of power because you feel you are too emotional.
But that wasn't my original stance...you're the one that keeps pushing the kid thing...like that is somehow magically the winning argument and nothing else matters here. And I know you read my other comment before making this one. I said that isn't what I meant re not wanting a position of power...I want balance... everything needs a balance...it's pretty damn simple.
actually i hadn't read it and i'm not taking a position of win-lose. i'm trying, and finding it difficult, to have a comprehensive conversation with you. you took a position and i questioned you on it. if you don't want to engage, then don't. it defeats the point of a forum but so be it.click to expand

Posted by LostinmyMind11Posted by jeanePosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by jeanePosted by LostinmyMind11
I just spoke to you like you spoke to me 🤷🏼♀️. I'm not sure what else you want...but the projections are cute. Now that was being sarcastic which I will continue with.... Really now ..and you know me? Weird!
End sarcasm....you've made a lot of assumptions and projections in this discussion and frankly seem upset that I don't agree with your opinion on the subject...that's very clear as we continue to go round and round and then the accusations of my apparent ill intent towards you while you play the innocent angel card. That about sums it up for me 🤷🏼♀️
the bottom line is you are arguing a tough position. that a parent does not hold a position of power over their own child. i don't know how you argue that. like i said, it's a tough position to substantiate. to make the claim that a child is much more capable of raising itself than most people give credit or that once a child reaches maturity, then the parent has little to no influence (either direct or indirect) over them also is not what i have seen borne out in my experience.
if you are willing to put together an argument why you think this is the case, then i think that might add to the discussion (or not, could be a wild tangent). ultimately all this bluster, deflection, projection is because you can't argue that a parent doesn't hold a position of power.
ok, you don't agree. we are left with you wouldn't want a position of power because you feel you are too emotional.
But that wasn't my original stance...you're the one that keeps pushing the kid thing...like that is somehow magically the winning argument and nothing else matters here. And I know you read my other comment before making this one. I said that isn't what I meant re not wanting a position of power...I want balance... everything needs a balance...it's pretty damn simple.
actually i hadn't read it and i'm not taking a position of win-lose. i'm trying, and finding it difficult, to have a comprehensive conversation with you. you took a position and i questioned you on it. if you don't want to engage, then don't. it defeats the point of a forum but so be it.
You're trying to make what I said more complex than it needs to be ...I'm not sure why. I said what I said. You're far to invested in this make believe world here.click to expand

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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.
do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?
In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.
so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?
I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼♀️
would you ever have a child?
Wtf does that matter?
well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.
since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?
Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!
i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.
so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?
Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?
And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.
really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?
ok.
Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.
So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?
a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.
i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.
i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.
i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.
And my point reigns on ....
And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻
ok, thanks for not answering the question.
There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.
true, i think you're not seeing it.
I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼♀️
no. it was a question asked sincerely.
that you don't see that a parent/guardian is a position of power to a child (even just for their basic day to day needs - sleep, clothing, security, food) and that you consider that an outlandish proposition means that the conversation is moot. instead that you contend that a baby raises itself 'to an extent' leaves me nowhere else to go in the conversation.
sure it's a position of power, but wanting to raise a child isn't about the desire to have power over that child.
i agree. i'm not talking about motivation to have or raise a child.
but i asked the question because she said that she wouldn't accept a position of power because she feels she lives in her emotions too much.
i asked if that she applied that having a child as well.
Not quite what I meant. I wouldnt take a position of power because I'm not above or below anyone else. I believe in a balance....but now I see where your assumptions come from. That's not sarcasm nor being condescending before you say anything.
"We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse."
there cannot be balance in everything and at all times. someone must lead. that doesn't mean that is a static or stagnant position but someone has to chart the course.
i don't see what sex has to do with it, there are some very capable women leaders. there are some awful ones too just as there are awful male leaders. the idea of balance is nice but it doesn't work.
i run my own business. i take input from my employees, my customers, experts in the field but ultimately i make the decision as to the direction of my future. there is no balance. it's not a co-op (and even co-ops have leaders). on a wider level, it's interesting to imagine overthrowing the govt and leaders in solidarity but to be replaced by what? animal farm anyone?
the simple fact is that "we are the 99% " was a failure as a political movement.
Us as women are too emotional...plain and simple. I said most women in power are just as bad...key words there...I'm not pinning one sex against the other. This is literally a hypothetical world... therefore in my version of the hypothetical...I see balance. I've already said my position in reality.
too emotional for what?click to expand


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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.
do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?
In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.
so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?
I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼♀️
would you ever have a child?
Wtf does that matter?
well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.
since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?
Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!
i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.
so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?
Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?
And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.
really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?
ok.
Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.
So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?
a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.
i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.
i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.
i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.
And my point reigns on ....
And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻
ok, thanks for not answering the question.
There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.
true, i think you're not seeing it.
I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼♀️
no. it was a question asked sincerely.
that you don't see that a parent/guardian is a position of power to a child (even just for their basic day to day needs - sleep, clothing, security, food) and that you consider that an outlandish proposition means that the conversation is moot. instead that you contend that a baby raises itself 'to an extent' leaves me nowhere else to go in the conversation.
sure it's a position of power, but wanting to raise a child isn't about the desire to have power over that child.
i agree. i'm not talking about motivation to have or raise a child.
but i asked the question because she said that she wouldn't accept a position of power because she feels she lives in her emotions too much.
i asked if that she applied that having a child as well.
Not quite what I meant. I wouldnt take a position of power because I'm not above or below anyone else. I believe in a balance....but now I see where your assumptions come from. That's not sarcasm nor being condescending before you say anything.
"We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse."
there cannot be balance in everything and at all times. someone must lead. that doesn't mean that is a static or stagnant position but someone has to chart the course.
i don't see what sex has to do with it, there are some very capable women leaders. there are some awful ones too just as there are awful male leaders. the idea of balance is nice but it doesn't work.
i run my own business. i take input from my employees, my customers, experts in the field but ultimately i make the decision as to the direction of my future. there is no balance. it's not a co-op (and even co-ops have leaders). on a wider level, it's interesting to imagine overthrowing the govt and leaders in solidarity but to be replaced by what? animal farm anyone?
the simple fact is that "we are the 99% " was a failure as a political movement.
Us as women are too emotional...plain and simple. I said most women in power are just as bad...key words there...I'm not pinning one sex against the other. This is literally a hypothetical world... therefore in my version of the hypothetical...I see balance. I've already said my position in reality.
too emotional for what?
Bottom line...you can't not have one power rise above another power...you're creating the rise of the same monster dressed up differently imo. Women are too emotional to take on the world ..I'm sorry but we are. With that said...men are all ego. How do you balance that...I have no fucking clue and I'm not going to pretend to know.click to expand

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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.
do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?
In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.
so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?
I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼♀️
would you ever have a child?
Wtf does that matter?
well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.
since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?
Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!
i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.
so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?
Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?
And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.
really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?
ok.
Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.
So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?
a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.
i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.
i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.
i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.
And my point reigns on ....
And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻
ok, thanks for not answering the question.
There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.
true, i think you're not seeing it.
I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼♀️
no. it was a question asked sincerely.
that you don't see that a parent/guardian is a position of power to a child (even just for their basic day to day needs - sleep, clothing, security, food) and that you consider that an outlandish proposition means that the conversation is moot. instead that you contend that a baby raises itself 'to an extent' leaves me nowhere else to go in the conversation.
sure it's a position of power, but wanting to raise a child isn't about the desire to have power over that child.
i agree. i'm not talking about motivation to have or raise a child.
but i asked the question because she said that she wouldn't accept a position of power because she feels she lives in her emotions too much.
i asked if that she applied that having a child as well.
Not quite what I meant. I wouldnt take a position of power because I'm not above or below anyone else. I believe in a balance....but now I see where your assumptions come from. That's not sarcasm nor being condescending before you say anything.
"We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse."
there cannot be balance in everything and at all times. someone must lead. that doesn't mean that is a static or stagnant position but someone has to chart the course.
i don't see what sex has to do with it, there are some very capable women leaders. there are some awful ones too just as there are awful male leaders. the idea of balance is nice but it doesn't work.
i run my own business. i take input from my employees, my customers, experts in the field but ultimately i make the decision as to the direction of my future. there is no balance. it's not a co-op (and even co-ops have leaders). on a wider level, it's interesting to imagine overthrowing the govt and leaders in solidarity but to be replaced by what? animal farm anyone?
the simple fact is that "we are the 99% " was a failure as a political movement.
Us as women are too emotional...plain and simple. I said most women in power are just as bad...key words there...I'm not pinning one sex against the other. This is literally a hypothetical world... therefore in my version of the hypothetical...I see balance. I've already said my position in reality.
too emotional for what?
Bottom line...you can't not have one power rise above another power...you're creating the rise of the same monster dressed up differently imo. Women are too emotional to take on the world ..I'm sorry but we are. With that said...men are all ego. How do you balance that...I have no fucking clue and I'm not going to pretend to know.click to expand

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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.
do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?
In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.
so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?
I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼♀️
would you ever have a child?
Wtf does that matter?
well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.
since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?
Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!
i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.
so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?
Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?
And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.
really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?
ok.
Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.
So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?
a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.
i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.
i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.
i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.
And my point reigns on ....
And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻
ok, thanks for not answering the question.
There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.
true, i think you're not seeing it.
I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼♀️
no. it was a question asked sincerely.
that you don't see that a parent/guardian is a position of power to a child (even just for their basic day to day needs - sleep, clothing, security, food) and that you consider that an outlandish proposition means that the conversation is moot. instead that you contend that a baby raises itself 'to an extent' leaves me nowhere else to go in the conversation.
sure it's a position of power, but wanting to raise a child isn't about the desire to have power over that child.
i agree. i'm not talking about motivation to have or raise a child.
but i asked the question because she said that she wouldn't accept a position of power because she feels she lives in her emotions too much.
i asked if that she applied that having a child as well.
Not quite what I meant. I wouldnt take a position of power because I'm not above or below anyone else. I believe in a balance....but now I see where your assumptions come from. That's not sarcasm nor being condescending before you say anything.
"We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse."
there cannot be balance in everything and at all times. someone must lead. that doesn't mean that is a static or stagnant position but someone has to chart the course.
i don't see what sex has to do with it, there are some very capable women leaders. there are some awful ones too just as there are awful male leaders. the idea of balance is nice but it doesn't work.
i run my own business. i take input from my employees, my customers, experts in the field but ultimately i make the decision as to the direction of my future. there is no balance. it's not a co-op (and even co-ops have leaders). on a wider level, it's interesting to imagine overthrowing the govt and leaders in solidarity but to be replaced by what? animal farm anyone?
the simple fact is that "we are the 99% " was a failure as a political movement.
Us as women are too emotional...plain and simple. I said most women in power are just as bad...key words there...I'm not pinning one sex against the other. This is literally a hypothetical world... therefore in my version of the hypothetical...I see balance. I've already said my position in reality.
too emotional for what?
Bottom line...you can't not have one power rise above another power...you're creating the rise of the same monster dressed up differently imo. Women are too emotional to take on the world ..I'm sorry but we are. With that said...men are all ego. How do you balance that...I have no fucking clue and I'm not going to pretend to know.
https://digest.bps.org.uk/2021/12/02/women-are-no-more-emotionally-turbulent-than-men/

Posted by Astrobyn
Tbf the original imaginary world was supposed to be that of balanced and equal power between the genders. But the men said that they had to have all the power because they were the only ones to protect us from being raped by men. So then we had to kill them, so we can have balance without being raped.

Posted by SoulPosted by Astrobyn
Tbf the original imaginary world was supposed to be that of balanced and equal power between the genders. But the men said that they had to have all the power because they were the only ones to protect us from being raped by men. So then we had to kill them, so we can have balance without being raped.
That's stupid. I know women who would fool a fucked up man into a false state of ego, then slit his throat the second his guard was down. This is why I hate your end game of this thread. You have no tact. You want to make all men look powerful, while making all women look like pathetic little victims. It's no surprise I'm so appalled by this thread. I can't stand weak people. You should be giving words of insight and wisdom to women and men alike. Not making both women and men fight, while putting both in a situation that makes all of us weaker.click to expand


Posted by AstrobynPosted by SoulPosted by Astrobyn
Tbf the original imaginary world was supposed to be that of balanced and equal power between the genders. But the men said that they had to have all the power because they were the only ones to protect us from being raped by men. So then we had to kill them, so we can have balance without being raped.
That's stupid. I know women who would fool a fucked up man into a false state of ego, then slit his throat the second his guard was down. This is why I hate your end game of this thread. You have no tact. You want to make all men look powerful, while making all women look like pathetic little victims. It's no surprise I'm so appalled by this thread. I can't stand weak people. You should be giving words of insight and wisdom to women and men alike. Not making both women and men fight, while putting both in a situation that makes all of us weaker.
really the main game I'm playing is to treat men like women and watch them loose their shit. So I apricate your appalling reaction.class="bqfade">click to expand

Posted by SoulPosted by AstrobynPosted by SoulPosted by Astrobyn
Tbf the original imaginary world was supposed to be that of balanced and equal power between the genders. But the men said that they had to have all the power because they were the only ones to protect us from being raped by men. So then we had to kill them, so we can have balance without being raped.
That's stupid. I know women who would fool a fucked up man into a false state of ego, then slit his throat the second his guard was down. This is why I hate your end game of this thread. You have no tact. You want to make all men look powerful, while making all women look like pathetic little victims. It's no surprise I'm so appalled by this thread. I can't stand weak people. You should be giving words of insight and wisdom to women and men alike. Not making both women and men fight, while putting both in a situation that makes all of us weaker.
really the main game I'm playing is to treat men like women and watch them loose their shit. So I apricate your appalling reaction.
At the least I'm glad you can admit I'm right.
So does that make you the sacrifice to your own plot?
What a plot twist 🤣click to expand


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Imma have to respectfully disagree. We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse.
do you feel this way about yourself? would you personally describe yourself this way?
In my feelings?... majority of the time, yes. The other part is mostly logic. So yeah coming from someone who hates feelings period but can admit I'm in them majority of the time...I just think it's a terrible idea. There needs to be a balance...or then you just have a rise of another monster.
so you think you would do a bad job if given a position of power?
I would never take it....I'm not looking for power. The fact you asked this particular question tells me a lot tbh. Again...a rise of another monster. 🤷🏼♀️
would you ever have a child?
Wtf does that matter?
well you could argue that raising a child is a position of power. some would even say the ultimate power.
since you are not interested in positions of power, would you ever raise a child?
Who tf says that ....raising a child is not a power move and shouldn't be label as so nor should it be thought as such and they probably shouldn't be having children if that's their mentality. Seriously wtf is that?!
i didn't say that it is a "power move" but being a child's parent or guardian is a position of power.
so have you/will you/intend to raise a child?
Ok but who is telling you this? I've never once thought raising a child as a position of power ..so where tf are you getting this from?
And technically we all raise ourself to an extent...so by this logic...we all are in a position of power. Therefore we should be able to work together where no one is above nor below someone else.
really? a 3 year old raises itself? the 6 year old knows when it should go to sleep and is just aware that it shouldn't eat sweets for every meal? a 12 year old works out themselves the best course to take without parental influence?
ok.
Ohhhh...so you're one of those that had parents 24/7. Gotcha but I did say to an extent...guess you missed that part.
So what about the women who can't have children and have been denied access to raise any...are they less than women who can?
a child is incapable of raising itself without influence...or a lack of influence. jesus, a baby is unable to exist without a parent or guardian and tragically, some babies die because of the power their parents hold.
i'm guessing you are not a parent yet. when you are (if you choose to be) then you will understand what i am talking about. although to be fair, i didn't think my point was that complex.
i don't even know how to respond to your question of pitting the value of one woman against another. nice red herring.
i am talking about positions of power and your desire to shy away from it due to what you perceive to be your emotional state.
And my point reigns on ....
And again I said to an extent...and I also didn't give an example of an age range. Influence is there but so are other influences. You'd be surprised just how capable a child can do things you think they can't but you apparently dont know about those struggles so I digress. Ok I'm out....have fun in...what did someone call it...ladyland 😂. Imma stick to reality....until next time kids ✌🏻
ok, thanks for not answering the question.
There is literally no point in answering it because it's not relevant....you think it is but I don't see it that way.
true, i think you're not seeing it.
I think you're wanting me to see it your way to support and justify your opinion 🤷🏼♀️
no. it was a question asked sincerely.
that you don't see that a parent/guardian is a position of power to a child (even just for their basic day to day needs - sleep, clothing, security, food) and that you consider that an outlandish proposition means that the conversation is moot. instead that you contend that a baby raises itself 'to an extent' leaves me nowhere else to go in the conversation.
sure it's a position of power, but wanting to raise a child isn't about the desire to have power over that child.
i agree. i'm not talking about motivation to have or raise a child.
but i asked the question because she said that she wouldn't accept a position of power because she feels she lives in her emotions too much.
i asked if that she applied that having a child as well.
Not quite what I meant. I wouldnt take a position of power because I'm not above or below anyone else. I believe in a balance....but now I see where your assumptions come from. That's not sarcasm nor being condescending before you say anything.
"We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse."
there cannot be balance in everything and at all times. someone must lead. that doesn't mean that is a static or stagnant position but someone has to chart the course.
i don't see what sex has to do with it, there are some very capable women leaders. there are some awful ones too just as there are awful male leaders. the idea of balance is nice but it doesn't work.
i run my own business. i take input from my employees, my customers, experts in the field but ultimately i make the decision as to the direction of my future. there is no balance. it's not a co-op (and even co-ops have leaders). on a wider level, it's interesting to imagine overthrowing the govt and leaders in solidarity but to be replaced by what? animal farm anyone?
the simple fact is that "we are the 99% " was a failure as a political movement.
Us as women are too emotional...plain and simple. I said most women in power are just as bad...key words there...I'm not pinning one sex against the other. This is literally a hypothetical world... therefore in my version of the hypothetical...I see balance. I've already said my position in reality.
too emotional for what?
Bottom line...you can't not have one power rise above another power...you're creating the rise of the same monster dressed up differently imo. Women are too emotional to take on the world ..I'm sorry but we are. With that said...men are all ego. How do you balance that...I have no fucking clue and I'm not going to pretend to know.
It's a simple answer really. A man should make a woman feel secure without attacking her emotion, while a woman should make a man feel secure without attacking his ego. This also stands in the case of man man, woman woman. Sexuality doesn't really matter as long as there is a level of respect and synergyclick to expand

Posted by GammaArietisPosted by AstrobynPosted by SoulPosted by Astrobyn
Tbf the original imaginary world was supposed to be that of balanced and equal power between the genders. But the men said that they had to have all the power because they were the only ones to protect us from being raped by men. So then we had to kill them, so we can have balance without being raped.
That's stupid. I know women who would fool a fucked up man into a false state of ego, then slit his throat the second his guard was down. This is why I hate your end game of this thread. You have no tact. You want to make all men look powerful, while making all women look like pathetic little victims. It's no surprise I'm so appalled by this thread. I can't stand weak people. You should be giving words of insight and wisdom to women and men alike. Not making both women and men fight, while putting both in a situation that makes all of us weaker.
really the main game I'm playing is to treat men like women and watch them loose their shit. So I apricate your appalling reaction.
I understood the assignment. This was the game I was playing as well.
I thought my original post made that clearPosted by GammaArietis
When I met you you had hair and now you have a receding hairline and I’m just not attracted to you anymore. You let yourself go.
And
My emotional needs aren’t being met and I have female biological urges to bond emotionally and you’re just not satisfying me. If you can’t satisfy me emotionally then I’ll have to get it somewhere else. It’s not cheating because I come home to you at night. Stop being so jealous and insecure.click to expand


Posted by Wizardz_Posted by GammaArietisPosted by Wizardz_Posted by GammaArietis
The real answer-
“The glass cliff is the phenomenon of women in leadership roles, such as executives in the corporate world and female political election candidates, being likelier than men to achieve leadership roles during periods of crisis or downturn, when the risk of failure is highest.”
We will be given the opportunity once everything is fucked beyond repair so that in the event that we fail, it can be argued that we are better off returning to the status quo.
Why do you have to be given anything?
You're supposed to be seizing power
Waiting for men to give it to you 🙄
No, I would like opportunities handed to me simply based on what I have between my legs like men. Thank you.
Yes, fair enough but the thread is about "women to stand the fuck up and take the power back" not "wait for men to agree to and actively provide equal opportunities"click to expand

Posted by Wizardz_Posted by DigitalGhost
I have a few questions about this proposed Ladyland.
1) Will the national anthem be Beyonce or Whitney Houston?
2) will the military uniforms be yoga pants?
3) will "they/them" pronouns still be required?
4) the state Capitol a Starbucks?
5) will pumpkin spice be available year round?
I'm envisaging this as a typical uniform post-female takeover which tbh isn't entirely unpleasant
Maybe jumpsuits for the fatties?
https://i.postimg.cc/8CgDwPHP/femdom.jpg


Posted by WarAngelPosted by blvckPosted by WarAngelPosted by blvckPosted by HypnotoadPosted by blvck
They can't survive without porn..
Corection, men can't survive with porn. You take it away and we will thrive.
So you won't survive or you'll thrive? Can't be both.. Lol
He's trying to say that he'll survive without it and be less distracted too.
Ohhh, okay. I was confused. True about the lack of distractions, but how long ya'll really think ya can survive? Haha j/k
I watch porn like I do Star Wars movies, entertainment value.
I like it but don't need it considering I get ass all the time. 🤭click to expand

Posted by WarAngelPosted by blvckPosted by WarAngelPosted by blvckPosted by HypnotoadPosted by blvck
They can't survive without porn..
Corection, men can't survive with porn. You take it away and we will thrive.
So you won't survive or you'll thrive? Can't be both.. Lol
He's trying to say that he'll survive without it and be less distracted too.
Ohhh, okay. I was confused. True about the lack of distractions, but how long ya'll really think ya can survive? Haha j/k
I watch porn like I do Star Wars movies, entertainment value.
I like it but don't need it considering I get ass all the time. 🤭click to expand

Posted by HypnotoadPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by KrabssPosted by LadyNeptune
The sickness of the patriarchy has corrupted women too. But that's a nice thought.
i see my friends, miserable, accepting it, better to be married than alone. i don't want to talk about it with them, but they want so much to whine, no way. either accept it, to be submissive, cool, or leave me alone to be a "feminist".
We are all products of our environment. Hard to shake indoctrination from birth even when it means supporting things that limit your own freedoms and rights as a woman. Shit not even about gender… as a human.
We are all products of our environment, particularly in the womb where levels of androgens have a profound effect on who we become.click to expand

Posted by HypnotoadPosted by blvckPosted by HypnotoadPosted by blvck
They can't survive without porn..
Corection, men can't survive with porn. You take it away and we will thrive.
So you won't survive or you'll thrive? Can't be both.. Lol
Read it again, men CAN'T survive with porn.
It's poison.click to expand

Posted by AstrobynPosted by HypnotoadPosted by blvckPosted by HypnotoadPosted by blvck
They can't survive without porn..
Corection, men can't survive with porn. You take it away and we will thrive.
So you won't survive or you'll thrive? Can't be both.. Lol
Read it again, men CAN'T survive with porn.
It's poison.
Psychology Today's Statistics say that 98% of men have poison themselves in the last 6 months.click to expand

Posted by BumboklaatPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by AstrobynPosted by HypnotoadPosted by blvckPosted by HypnotoadPosted by blvck
They can't survive without porn..
Corection, men can't survive with porn. You take it away and we will thrive.
So you won't survive or you'll thrive? Can't be both.. Lol
Read it again, men CAN'T survive with porn.
It's poison.
Psychology Today's Statistics say that 98% of men have poison themselves in the last 6 months.
hey not just men
I've consumed my fair share of porn this last 6 months. Women like sex as well. And if more of us were involved behind the camera producing it we'd have better quality and more equitable product. Someone needs to do something about these cheesy plot lines lmao
Don't mess with the cheesy plot lines. Don't turn it into a soap operaclick to expand


Posted by HypnotoadPosted by LadyNeptune
Idk why stepmom porn is so popular.
*in deep cigarette voice* I just got done fucking your dad, want a go?
Novelty seeking as a result of desensitisation from porn addiction, the vanilla stuff doesn't hit the same anymore.
I also think PMO producers just went with it and the audience does too. Some companies making that shit actually make way better content so it gets more views.click to expand
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"We are too in our feelings about everything...I can only imagine plus most women in power are just as bad if not worse."
there cannot be balance in everything and at all times. someone must lead. that doesn't mean that is a static or stagnant position but someone has to chart the course.
i don't see what sex has to do with it, there are some very capable women leaders. there are some awful ones too just as there are awful male leaders. the idea of balance is nice but it doesn't work.
i run my own business. i take input from my employees, my customers, experts in the field but ultimately i make the decision as to the direction of my future. there is no balance. it's not a co-op (and even co-ops have leaders). on a wider level, it's interesting to imagine overthrowing the govt and leaders in solidarity but to be replaced by what? animal farm anyone?
the simple fact is that "we are the 99% " was a failure as a political movement.