As an Aqua I have gotten cold and callous, but vindictive, nope. I walk away.
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Posted by nanobotPosted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by nanobot
Probably when your relationship is on the rocks, the best thing to do was not to go out dancing with other men. I read it from my perspective being that, you went out dancing because you felt scorned about his odd behaivor. If you were being completely honest with yourself, you can't say that there is no truth in that. Well that bit you in the butt. Aquarians won't play games like that, unless they have scorpio placements IMO.
There are few men out there who can be colder than an angry aquarius man. I have been on the receiving end multiple times, across many different relationship mediums lol. By a boyfriend, my father, and a friend. You need to give them space, a lot of space. But my experience with scorpios is that they will smother you during these times when they really care about you. I don't think he had ample time to cool off, you should have both exercised more self control. Especially you, as you paint yourself as the "logical" and more intelligent one here. You should have told him that you BOTH needed the space apart for awhile and stuck to your guns about it. His blocking you and unblocking you the next day, and you talking to him was not enough time for the dust to settle, hence why it blew up. He was very hurt and inflammatory, and you seemed to fuel the fires. I 100% think that if you gave him the space that he needed, he really would have came back and apologized and it could have changed the dynamic completely.
No, I went out dancing because for two days prior, in other realms of my life I was having a difficult time. Truly down in the dumps, and he knew about this. Dancing, was one of those few things that makes me truly happy. He knows this. I have not danced in a very long time. It was not to incite anything in him, it was for me. I truly needed something to cheer me up, especially since he was busy with a friend. It was me trying to entertain myself, not a ploy to get his attention.
That is me, being completely honest with myself. If it was a ploy, trust me, I would not have told him. Gone home, told him what I had done, and told him how enjoyable it was etc. That was not what I did, I involved him every step of the way. I wanted him to come, I truly wanted to dance with him, because I never have and it was something I always told him I wanted to do with him. Hah, the thought had turned me on. As inappropriate it is to say that now, but that was the truth. It was not a game.
The relationship was not on the rocks, he was acting strange yes, but on the rocks. It was not. Please read again, I did not smother him. I kept asking him to let me be, he kept coming at me. I did not want to talk to him, I did not message him after I moved my belongings. I stuck to my words, he was the one to write me with many accusations of threats etc. Also are you certain you read correctly. He blew up right after the dancing incident all the way till I was thrown out, and after. I was silent, after having left his home. He kept pushing me, after multiple request on my part, to be left alone, to stop pushing, to let me move on. He did not respect that, I blew up, then he blocked me. I did not talk to him again after he unblocked me. It was utter silence on my part, so do kindly read again what I had written.
It was in the wee hours of morning, how was either one of us going to have our space ?
How would you feel if you had not your own home keys with you, and told to go home with any man ?
I had to return to his home, if I had my own home keys. Trust me, I would have left him alone. Therefore please, read again, why the dynamics happened the way it did. I am not painting myself a certain way, I was emotional too, it was an emotional upheaval but out of the two of us. Yes, I will unashamedly say I was more logical and the more intelligent one. He admits it, not in a sarcastic manner either because he was caught out in multiple lies.
I'm referring to him and the blocking you and unblocking you the next day - that was clearly not enough space for either of you. When he was acting that way after he unblocked you, you should have never responded because he was still so upset. You can respect yourself and stick up for yourself by showing him in a way that doesn't include harsh words on your end - you could have simply showed him that you will not tolerate his verbal attacks, by not responding all together until he cooled down and was ready to talk like an adult. That would have been the stronger and more mature route to take, and trust me I know how difficult that is. I am just saying that I have done it both ways, and the latter is much more effective when dealing with aquarius men. Then in a few days or weeks, he will come back and see the errors of his ways. It takes patience, they take patience. He did not have enough time between these interactions to even get the chance to reflect on his behavior.click to expand
I never wrote him after he unblocked me. Let me write out the timeline for you.
Day 1 - Within the first 24 hours of the episode, which included the evening out, the argument at home, my taking part of my belongings home, completely silence on my part and then his consequent accusations despite being asked to be left alone. He pushed, more and more so, disrespecting my boundaries. I blew up, and then he blocked me.
Day 2 - He unblocked me. Nothing happened nor was said between us.
Day 3 - Completely silence, nothing was said between us.
Day 4 - He unblocked me further, to reach out and the last of the belongings conversation was had. He was being difficult, I was being exceedingly calm. Focusing on the day, time, and the items of belongings to be picked up. By this point, I only wanted to take my things, as drama free as possible.
Is that clearer ?
There were no harsh words on my end, as said. I did not hurl abuse at him, nor hateful words. Truth yes, even in a blunt manner. He did however, hurled quite a fair amount of hateful words my way. He tore down parts of my character that were not even true. All I did was ask questions and not let him get away with his lies, his blaming statements, and his other words that were all becoming contradictory.
Either way, your last few sentences make sense. What is done, is done. We shall see. 🙂
Posted by justagirl
As an Aqua I have gotten cold and callous, but vindictive, nope. I walk away.
Thankfully @justagirl, you are like the other Water Bearers I know and had known then. 🙂
As said @tiziani, something to reflect on as I move forward. I have said it earlier in this thread, though we will never be as close as before. I hold no hard feelings in regards to him, perhaps we could even have a cordial conversation over a drink in the future. Who knows, until then I will need my space. He will most certainly get his.
Although, I have since learned a bit more about home cooked Italian cuisine on top of what I had already known and have since further improved my Italian dishes. My Italian has improved as well, the language that is. There is a positive in this. 😆
Although, I have since learned a bit more about home cooked Italian cuisine on top of what I had already known and have since further improved my Italian dishes. My Italian has improved as well, the language that is. There is a positive in this. 😆
Posted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by justagirl
As an Aqua I have gotten cold and callous, but vindictive, nope. I walk away.
Thankfully @justagirl, you are like the other Water Bearers I know and had known then. 🙂click to expand
Sorry you are going through this. Some people are assholes.
I do agree with Nano about the space and I understand 100% where Tiz is coming from.
To make it a tad more relatable: I have not always been the best at handling emotional situations even in some of my friendships, if stuff gets too heavy I shut down and need space, if not given I lash out. I am aware of this so I try to remove myself and if I am not allowed to well., it can get ugly. I don't know if that astro related or just not being taught how to effectively handle emotions growing up, but we do hear a lot about how Aquas don't process emotions very well at all.
Best of luck to you.
You shouldn’t let another man touch you in front of one who you are sleeping with. That’s kind of common sense.
You say you didn’t even know he was there but you invited him so you had to of known there was a chance he could show up. Peoples plans change.
Men can be really jealous, stupid and animalistic.
If you wanted a reaction guess you got one. Maybe that makes you feel better.
You say you didn’t even know he was there but you invited him so you had to of known there was a chance he could show up. Peoples plans change.
Men can be really jealous, stupid and animalistic.
If you wanted a reaction guess you got one. Maybe that makes you feel better.
Posted by justagirlPosted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by justagirl
As an Aqua I have gotten cold and callous, but vindictive, nope. I walk away.
Thankfully @justagirl, you are like the other Water Bearers I know and had known then. 🙂
Sorry you are going through this. Some people are assholes.
I do agree with Nano about the space and I understand 100% where Tiz is coming from.
To make it a tad more relatable: I have not always been the best at handling emotional situations even in some of my friendships, if stuff gets too heavy I shut down and need space, if not given I lash out. I am aware of this so I try to remove myself and if I am not allowed to well., it can get ugly. I don't know if that astro related or just not being taught how to effectively handle emotions growing up, but we do hear a lot about how Aquas don't process emotions very well at all.
Best of luck to you.click to expand
Ah well @justagirl, thank you for providing an explanation. It does give me some sense of understanding, if not closure, or in the least comprehension of the emotional upheaval. 🙂 Nonetheless, the damage has been done.
Did you ever return and make an apology for your reaction or behaviour though ?
I too agree with @nanobot and @tiziani, in some of what they had shared. Even if not applied in my situation, their advice, would apply for whatever comes in the future.
Posted by Sag898
You shouldn’t let another man touch you in front of one who you are sleeping with. That’s kind of common sense.
You say you didn’t even know he was there but you invited him so you had to of known there was a chance he could show up. Peoples plans change.
Men can be really jealous, stupid and animalistic.
If you wanted a reaction guess you got one. Maybe that makes you feel better.
What ?
That is a silly rule, I would never stop him from dancing salsa with another women. Dancing is dancing, I was not letting a man touch me in an intimate setting. Which would have been an entirely inappropriate thing to allow, it truly depends on context.
Yes, I did not know he was there because he lied and told me he was going home. Yes, I had invited him but he rejected the invitations, later on in the evening. Yes, I knew there was a chance he may have shown up. In fact, I had wanted to, because I truly did want to spend time with him, dancing with him, finally. However, it was a crowded venue, I could not have been able to pinpoint him in the sea of people, whilst dancing at the same time.
Why must you believe, dancing was to get a reaction out of a man. Since when did a woman going dancing, was to get attention. I did it for me, because it is one of those few activities that I truly enjoy. Partner dancing, that is. It is a well loved activity of mine for years, it is where I could be myself. He is aware of this. If I had wanted to get a reaction out of him, trust me a Stinger woman would not have been this communicative, and open about exactly what she was doing, with her man. If that was her goal.
Posted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by justagirlPosted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by justagirl
As an Aqua I have gotten cold and callous, but vindictive, nope. I walk away.
Thankfully @justagirl, you are like the other Water Bearers I know and had known then. 🙂
Sorry you are going through this. Some people are assholes.
I do agree with Nano about the space and I understand 100% where Tiz is coming from.
To make it a tad more relatable: I have not always been the best at handling emotional situations even in some of my friendships, if stuff gets too heavy I shut down and need space, if not given I lash out. I am aware of this so I try to remove myself and if I am not allowed to well., it can get ugly. I don't know if that astro related or just not being taught how to effectively handle emotions growing up, but we do hear a lot about how Aquas don't process emotions very well at all.
Best of luck to you.
Ah well @justagirl, thank you for providing an explanation. It does give me some sense of understanding, if not closure, or in the least comprehension of the emotional upheaval. 🙂 Nonetheless, the damage has been done.
Did you ever return and make an apology for your reaction or behaviour though ?
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Yes. I always feel badly for my bad behaviors or fuckedupness and want to make amends when I have hurt others. I will apologize and/or attempt to make peace with the person. Sometimes it doesn't always happen, as the other may not be receptive to it. I will admit, I have let my own stubborn pride hold me back due to the feeling an apology wasn't warranted from my side, lost a pretty amazing friend due to this last year. Lesson learned I suppose.
Posted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by Sag898
You shouldn’t let another man touch you in front of one who you are sleeping with. That’s kind of common sense.
You say you didn’t even know he was there but you invited him so you had to of known there was a chance he could show up. Peoples plans change.
Men can be really jealous, stupid and animalistic.
If you wanted a reaction guess you got one. Maybe that makes you feel better.
What ?
That is a silly rule, I would never stop him from dancing salsa with another women. Dancing is dancing, I was not letting a man touch me in an intimate setting. Which would have been an entirely inappropriate thing to allow, it truly depends on context.
Yes, I did not know he was there because he lied and told me he was going home. Yes, I had invited him but he rejected the invitations, later on in the evening. Yes, I knew there was a chance he may have shown up. In fact, I had wanted to, because I truly did want to spend time with him, dancing with him, finally. However, it was a crowded venue, I could not have been able to pinpoint him in the sea of people, whilst dancing at the same time.
Why must you believe, dancing was to get a reaction out of a man. Since when did a woman going dancing, was to get attention. I did it for me, because it is one of those few activities that I truly enjoy. Partner dancing, that is. It is a well loved activity of mine for years, it is where I could be myself. He is aware of this. If I had wanted to get a reaction out of him, trust me a Stinger woman would not have been this communicative, and open about exactly what she was doing, with her man. If that was her goal.click to expand
I didn’t say it wasn’t silly. My point is most men are stupid, immature and jealous.
( even the ones who say they aren’t )
It’s just something to keep in my mind to keep yourself away from drama, to stay safe and away from situations like this.
Fair or not it’s just a reality.
Posted by tizianiPosted by TheLadyScorpio
As said @tiziani, something to reflect on as I move forward. I have said it earlier in this thread, though we will never be as close as before. I hold no hard feelings in regards to him, perhaps we could even have a cordial conversation over a drink in the future. Who knows, until then I will need my space. He will most certainly get his.
Although, I have since learned a bit more about home cooked Italian cuisine on top of what I had already known and have since further improved my Italian dishes. My Italian has improved as well, the language that is. There is a positive in this. 😆
Spettacolare, infatti non ci vorebbe mai rimpiangere che le cose finiscono cosi' !click to expand
Cosa posso dire? È un uomo appassionato e impaziente.
L'amore è sempre un affare rischioso, ma quando è buono. È stupefacente.
Ora avrò un motivo per scoprire le altre città del sud Italia ! 🙂
Posted by justagirlPosted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by justagirlPosted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by justagirl
As an Aqua I have gotten cold and callous, but vindictive, nope. I walk away.
Thankfully @justagirl, you are like the other Water Bearers I know and had known then. 🙂
Sorry you are going through this. Some people are assholes.
I do agree with Nano about the space and I understand 100% where Tiz is coming from.
To make it a tad more relatable: I have not always been the best at handling emotional situations even in some of my friendships, if stuff gets too heavy I shut down and need space, if not given I lash out. I am aware of this so I try to remove myself and if I am not allowed to well., it can get ugly. I don't know if that astro related or just not being taught how to effectively handle emotions growing up, but we do hear a lot about how Aquas don't process emotions very well at all.
Best of luck to you.
Ah well @justagirl, thank you for providing an explanation. It does give me some sense of understanding, if not closure, or in the least comprehension of the emotional upheaval. 🙂 Nonetheless, the damage has been done.
Did you ever return and make an apology for your reaction or behaviour though ?
Yes. I always feel badly for my bad behaviors or fuckedupness and want to make amends when I have hurt others. I will apologize and/or attempt to make peace with the person. Sometimes it doesn't always happen, as the other may not be receptive to it. I will admit, I have let my own stubborn pride hold me back due to the feeling an apology wasn't warranted from my side, lost a pretty amazing friend due to this last year. Lesson learned I suppose.click to expand
How long would that process take ... weeks, months, years ?
How would you know it would not be well received by the other party, because they have stated so, or because you had assumed ?
Regarding your friend, is there no further opportunities to make amends.
Have they completely cut you out ?
How long did you let it drag out for, and how long did it take before it hit that pride had lost you a friend ?
You do not have to answer, if it makes you feel uncomfortable or saddened to bring up that memory.
Posted by nanobot
My sister is a pisces moon aqua and she can be really vindictive 😆 I'm putting that emoji because it's in such a hilarious, vicious, and petty way 😆
I will respond to the other post a bit later
Hilarious vindictive, and petty in what way ? Care to give us some examples, even if only to humour me ?
I could do with a bit of laughter. 😆
Posted by halalbae
Reads like he consistently makes you feel unworthy, unlovable, overall not good enough 😢 To me, what you wrote about him in your other thread, sounds like you overdo it as far as effort and initiative because you feel like the relationship wont come to fruition if you dont do ALL the work?
I think you might have dragged this relationship out for so much longer than you should have because it seems like him treating you with resentment and recklessness is normalized in his mind
Personally that would be something I cant handle... whether it be from family, friend or lover. So if that would happen to me, Id just keep my distance really and allow them the space to show me how they feel about me. You just gotta not be scared of being unwanted by him or anyone. Everybody is going to be unwanted by somebody. Doesnt matter how rich, pretty, funny, smart etc etc. Someone will just not want you and this is something you should not take personally
Romantic relationships are complicated enough. Take away mutual desire and it becomes damn near impossible. Both people have to want each other BAD
In fact, I did very little for the longest time. He put in all the effort, pushing, and fighting for this to come to fruition. Convincing me that he wanted, and chose this exclusive / monogamous situation, until I finally gave in and believed him. Then after so, all the acts of service I did out of love, and only because he positively reinforced it. If someone, you cared about, kept complimenting, giving positive feedback, or even requesting more of such acts of services.
Would you have known that they did not like it ?
These were the kinds of questions I had asked of him. I am not an entire fool, but was made to feel like one. That was partially why I was feeling betrayed as well. If he did not enjoy my cooking, belongings around him, doing the laundry, etc. He could have easily said no, and I could have stopped. These were easy fixes, and things I could I turned off without a second thought. Yet, he watched me fail. He let me fail. He could never give me a straight answer, one minute he said he did love it, the next minute that he wanted his freedom, another minute that he loved it but hated it, etc. If he truly hated everything I did, he could have bloody well have done all those things himself. He is not disabled, but he did not take any of those initiatives but instead always asked for me to do so. If someone hated something that much, they would have done anything to not have to experience it. Yet no, he always kept asking for more.
Do you know how contradictory that is ?
It was his way to pout in almost a silly manner, if not flirtatious manner, to get those acts of services out of me. If I stopped them, he would be unhappy and asked me why I was not taking care of him. Keep in mind, these were things I never did to begin with. At the beginning, he asked for every single one of these tasks of me. He was the one to convince over and over again, to leave my belongings at his place. To move in, to stay, to have his keys etc. I was the one always having doubts, even told me perhaps we should take it slower, let me think. He was always the impatient one, asking why I could not do things now and why I must think. I am one to always think, weigh my options, and mull over things before I make a decision. Simply because I take my decisions very seriously.
So which is it, he could not have it both ways ? How would you feel when someone completely flipped the script on you, not only so but to blame you as well, then to tell you, you misunderstood everything ?
Every step along the way, I always checked in and asked, do you enjoy this, is this too much, are you happy etc. Not in those exact words, but you get the gist. I was always communicating with him, but he was not half as open and honest as I was. I am not scared, of being unwanted. Trust me, there were moments I have stepped away. He would pout, whine, complaining that I was being distant, and cold. When I wanted my space, he would constantly pester me saying he missed me and why I needed to be away for so long.
Would such mixed signals not drive you insane ?
It is partially why I feel as hurt as I do not, betrayed, lied to, and blamed.
As said, if he will not make me his everything, I will make him my nothing.
As a Stinger woman, I fear nothing.
Do not want me, do not choose me, and I will go.
We are not desperate, I always told him so.
Fear, is not what motivates me.
Posted by ASCoppVenusPosted by Jules-ll
Bravo to you for walking away with dignity, nobody deserves to be thrown out in the middle of the night. Consider yourself lucky to have escaped the aquarian push/pull. They can be masters of the mind games, but not necessarily at forming loving, communicative relationships.
@ASCoppVenus, you have seen an aqua cry? That's surprising! In my lifetime of living with 3 aquas, only saw tears a couple of times. You must have really gotten to him...
Ms Stinger, use that surgical precision to cut him loose and never look back. There's a whole world of people out there that will appreciate and love you for your big heart.
🤗
Yes I have. I guess he knew I did love him but I was done. He said he thought we would just breakup but he will still see me. He never expected me to leave the country. But hey, I’m a gemini. I know how to leave a country for sure especially if i wanna start a new life and heal. And its what I did.click to expand
Those were the exact words he said to me as well. How uncanny that our experiences were so very similar. 😱
He thought he could still have me around in some form of an open relationship, friends with benefits (as an option, no I will not be a mans option, either have me, or let me go, especially after what we had together, do not demote me, leave me be), or friendship. After all he did to me, he never expected my words about my past to be true. When I told him, when I was done with people, I was done. Even if I may still think of them fondly from time to time, loving them from a far. All they will experience is ice, indifference, and no contact (at least initially if it was not an amicable end). He never thought one day, I will work to forget him. However, to heal, I must do what ever it is for myself, to move on.
I am a Stinger, and resilient. Yes, I will die, but death we fear not. I will rebuild myself, rise up again, like a phoenix, and go on forward. Besides, all my life I have been a survivor. He knows my story well, and he was foolish enough to underestimate me.
Thank you for that post dear @Jules-II, the urinates ice cubes and martyr complex had me laughing for quite a while. I really needed something to get me out of my bubble, and that laughter saved me a little. 🙂
@halalbae
Keep in mind, this was also the man that kept speaking of me as the one. Which I never mentioned, he spoke of family and children always, asking what I wanted. He included me in his future plans, with set dates. We are talking about future plans, as in the next year. A man, who had once asked me to move to another city, another country with him. A man, who told me to stay at his home, when we will be on his annual leave holiday. All these things, and more were initiated by him. I never once brought up such topics, because I preferred such things to be brought up slowly. To have been well thought out, to have been truly contemplated over. He was always an impatient man, though I may not be the most patient woman out there. I have learned to master that trait because of the greater benefit it reaps.
Keep in mind, this was also the man that kept speaking of me as the one. Which I never mentioned, he spoke of family and children always, asking what I wanted. He included me in his future plans, with set dates. We are talking about future plans, as in the next year. A man, who had once asked me to move to another city, another country with him. A man, who told me to stay at his home, when we will be on his annual leave holiday. All these things, and more were initiated by him. I never once brought up such topics, because I preferred such things to be brought up slowly. To have been well thought out, to have been truly contemplated over. He was always an impatient man, though I may not be the most patient woman out there. I have learned to master that trait because of the greater benefit it reaps.
Posted by halalbae
To me, what you wrote about him in your other thread, sounds like you overdo it as far as effort and initiative because you feel like the relationship wont come to fruition if you dont do ALL the work?
You just gotta not be scared of being unwanted by him or anyone.
I agree with this
Posted by TheLadyScorpio
@halalbae
Keep in mind, this was also the man that kept speaking of me as the one. Which I never mentioned, he spoke of family and children always, asking what I wanted. He included me in his future plans, with set dates. We are talking about future plans, as in the next year. A man, who had once asked me to move to another city, another country with him. A man, who told me to stay at his home, when we will be on his annual leave holiday. All these things, and more were initiated by him. I never once brought up such topics, because I preferred such things to be brought up slowly. To have been well thought out, to have been truly contemplated over. He was always an impatient man, though I may not be the most patient woman out there. I have learned to master that trait because of the greater benefit it reaps.
They're just words Lady, words. Talk is cheap....
I was with one like that (same placements too) and in the end i remember thinking what a fool he was to keep making false promises and then not carrying through with them. He just made himself look like an idiot 🙄
Posted by halalbaePosted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by halalbae
Reads like he consistently makes you feel unworthy, unlovable, overall not good enough 😢 To me, what you wrote about him in your other thread, sounds like you overdo it as far as effort and initiative because you feel like the relationship wont come to fruition if you dont do ALL the work?
I think you might have dragged this relationship out for so much longer than you should have because it seems like him treating you with resentment and recklessness is normalized in his mind
Personally that would be something I cant handle... whether it be from family, friend or lover. So if that would happen to me, Id just keep my distance really and allow them the space to show me how they feel about me. You just gotta not be scared of being unwanted by him or anyone. Everybody is going to be unwanted by somebody. Doesnt matter how rich, pretty, funny, smart etc etc. Someone will just not want you and this is something you should not take personally
Romantic relationships are complicated enough. Take away mutual desire and it becomes damn near impossible. Both people have to want each other BAD
In fact, I did very little for the longest time. He put in all the effort, pushing, and fighting for this to come to fruition. Convincing me that he wanted, and chose this exclusive / monogamous situation, until I finally gave in and believed him. Then after so, all the acts of service I did out of love, and only because he positively reinforced it. If someone, you cared about, kept complimenting, giving positive feedback, or even requesting more of such acts of services.
Would you have known that they did not like it ?
These were the kinds of questions I had asked of him. I am not an entire fool, but was made to feel like one. That was partially why I was feeling betrayed as well. If he did not enjoy my cooking, belongings around him, doing the laundry, etc. He could have easily said no, and I could have stopped. These were easy fixes, and things I could I turned off without a second thought. Yet, he watched me fail. He let me fail. He could never give me a straight answer, one minute he said he did love it, the next minute that he wanted his freedom, another minute that he loved it but hated it, etc. If he truly hated everything I did, he could have bloody well have done all those things himself. He is not disabled, but he did not take any of those initiatives but instead always asked for me to do so. If someone hated something that much, they would have done anything to not have to experience it. Yet no, he always kept asking for more.
Do you know how contradictory that is ?
It was his way to pout in almost a silly manner, if not flirtatious manner, to get those acts of services out of me. If I stopped them, he would be unhappy and asked me why I was not taking care of him. Keep in mind, these were things I never did to begin with. At the beginning, he asked for every single one of these tasks of me. He was the one to convince over and over again, to leave my belongings at his place. To move in, to stay, to have his keys etc. I was the one always having doubts, even told me perhaps we should take it slower, let me think. He was always the impatient one, asking why I could not do things now and why I must think. I am one to always think, weigh my options, and mull over things before I make a decision. Simply because I take my decisions very seriously.
So which is it, he could not have it both ways ? How would you feel when someone completely flipped the script on you, not only so but to blame you as well, then to tell you, you misunderstood everything ?
Every step along the way, I always checked in and asked, do you enjoy this, is this too much, are you happy etc. Not in those exact words, but you get the gist. I was always communicating with him, but he was not half as open and honest as I was. I am not scared, of being unwanted. Trust me, there were moments I have stepped away. He would pout, whine, complaining that I was being distant, and cold. When I wanted my space, he would constantly pester me saying he missed me and why I needed to be away for so long.
Would such mixed signals not drive you insane ?
It is partially why I feel as hurt as I do not, betrayed, lied to, and blamed.
As said, if he will not make me his everything, I will make him my nothing.
As a Stinger woman, I fear nothing.
Do not want me, do not choose me, and I will go.
We are not desperate, I always told him so.
Fear, is not what motivates me.
Hes been playing mind games since the beginning, and mind games are a precursor to emotional abuse. Which I think he has already subjected you to:
1. Mind games: youre constantly wondering whats going on. The uncertainty leaves you confused and worried
2. Hot and cold behavior
3. Excessive victimization, turning small offenses big in order to have the upper hand
Anyone that is ROUTINELY hot and cold with you, simply doesnt like you. They either like the things you do for them, the attention you give them or the fulfillment they get from successfully manipulating you but they dont like YOU as a person. Thats why they are hot when they want to use you and cold when theyve got their fill. Your feelings and needs are irrelevant because its not YOU they came for
The way he routinely treats you poorly is one of the most flagrant form of disrespect. I just hope you dont set yourself up as a puppet because you refused to be realisticclick to expand
Great wisdom
You'd make a great inspirational speaker 👍
The behaviour halal was talking off happened to me twice with Aqua men....both were terrified of losing themselves in me, they did the hot and cold, push and pull thing, it's almost as though i had to go back to the second one for round two. The similarities in behaviour was astounding and enough to show me, I'd not go back for round three
I believe when we go back to the same sign, it is often life's way of presenting the same issues that we didn't deal with the first, second or even third time. This is why some people get stuck on the same sign......they get trapped in the same pattern of behaviour
Messy...
I believe when we go back to the same sign, it is often life's way of presenting the same issues that we didn't deal with the first, second or even third time. This is why some people get stuck on the same sign......they get trapped in the same pattern of behaviour
Messy...
Posted by ASCoppVenusPosted by MyStarsShine
The behaviour halal was talking off happened to me twice with Aqua men....both were terrified of losing themselves in me, they did the hot and cold, push and pull thing, it's almost as though i had to go back to the second one for round two. The similarities in behaviour was astounding and enough to show me, I'd not go back for round three
I believe when we go back to the same sign, it is often life's way of presenting the same issues that we didn't deal with the first, second or even third time. This is why some people get stuck on the same sign......they get trapped in the same pattern of behaviour
Messy...
Damn. I hope all my issues have been addressed already with aquas so this third one is better 🤣click to expand
Hope so!
I stopped at two.....two Aquas and two Aries....
......and to go in a bit deeper, my father was an Aries with Sun Uranus conjunct, so he was like an Aries/Aqua
Life showing me how to address my father issues.....and I did ❤️
Nothing is a waste of time in the grand scheme of things 😊
Life showing me how to address my father issues.....and I did ❤️
Nothing is a waste of time in the grand scheme of things 😊
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by ASCoppVenusPosted by MyStarsShine
The behaviour halal was talking off happened to me twice with Aqua men....both were terrified of losing themselves in me, they did the hot and cold, push and pull thing, it's almost as though i had to go back to the second one for round two. The similarities in behaviour was astounding and enough to show me, I'd not go back for round three
I believe when we go back to the same sign, it is often life's way of presenting the same issues that we didn't deal with the first, second or even third time. This is why some people get stuck on the same sign......they get trapped in the same pattern of behaviour
Messy...
Damn. I hope all my issues have been addressed already with aquas so this third one is better 🤣
Hope so!
I stopped at two.....two Aquas and two Aries....
click to expand
Thinking back stars, I find it strange how we have both experienced Virgents / Water Bearers / and Rams.
Are there any other signs you have had experiences with, that I should be aware of ? 😆
/saidinjest
Posted by Black-Mamba
Its very weird to see this very human aspect to your personality.
I thought you were a femme fatale.
The Femme Fatale is me, so is this aspect of me as well.
They are all facets of who I am.
For all the years I have been on DXP, I chose to only show a sliver of who I was. 😆
Posted by Black-Mamba
Nice to see a human being exists outside the pretentious look at me I'm so sexy image you portray in here.
Too bad it took a heart break to see the real you.
It did not take a heart break.
At the time, I simply had no interest to let DXP see all of me. Well, they still do not, but more than before. 🙂
Posted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by Black-Mamba
Its very weird to see this very human aspect to your personality.
I thought you were a femme fatale.
Goes out the window with Aqua men. Doesn’t work.click to expand
Strangely enough, I never used the Femme Fatale part of my personality on him. In fact, I never used that part of my personality on any of the Water Bearer men in my past. They never triggered that side of me, all I had to be was my quirky if not also eccentric self. Perhaps, that may have been the draw towards them. They preferred my hair down, always. 😆
I know @MyStarsShine, talk is indeed cheap, which was why I kept pushing him away for so long. I had my doubts. Although, I am sorry to hear that you have had such experiences with a Water Bearer with similar placements as well. It may be the past now, but nonetheless ... (((hugs)))
However, yet again, I failed to listen to my intuition which was there all along since the very beginning. I went against my better judgement. As you said before, we Stinger women, take a while to learn our lessons, stubborn as we are. Though, it is never to late, and from now on forwards. My intuition comes first, I will examine it and trust it above all else, then combine it with my logic before I empathise with the words / emotions / actions of others.
At least I came away with a lesson, and many of you lovely people here have brought forth a lot of what I could improve on and move forward with. Which is what I really need right now, people to point out what I could focus on, to improve within myself, it keeps me on the correct path, of moving on. 🙂
Posted by Waterbearerwearer
I’ve seen so many women try and crack an Aqua.
Only Aqua can do that to Aqua. We freeze up and get Uranium af for a time but we won’t hunt you down. That chasing down is an emotional game.
For instance people on here talk shiiit about me for a time, I don’t actively seek the drama. It’s heppening.,,cool. When they come to me or in proximity to me and I’m present to the BS then I come alive.
Point is we don’t seek the turnulence.
If he does he has water with more genial orbs.
I have a family full of Aqua men and all my friends are mostly Aqua. I’ve seen stunning women left high and dry because of the disorientation. They think their beauty will get them home and hosed.
Wrong.
They need substance. They want a women who will lead the way and make him accountable but more importantly a women who won’t fallback on juvenile mind manipulation tactics.
He sees it a mile off and will check out... he may engage for casual sex but hes consciousness is turned off and that’s very dangerous relating for Aqua.
True, but I have had Water Bearer men propose to me in the past therefore it has been cracked before.
Although, almost ever Water Bearer man I ever had anything with, had a few strong water placements, either in Merfolk or Stinger.
Except, every one of them. By the end, they were the one to hunt me down, and I was the one to freeze up, going cold. They chased, they did all sorts of things, some sane, some less sane, to garner attention. Therefore at times Water Bearers do seek drama, I do not doubt that you do not. There are some that do, but more so, I believe they are more of a subset of Water Bearers, the lesser subset.
Yes, I have seen some of these same Water Bearer men also leave very intelligent and beautiful women high and dry over nothing. These women did not believe their beauty would get them home, but nonetheless, it did not keep them returning.
The issues here with this negative example of a Water Bearer man (not all are like this, not by far), I had substance, not to seem arrogant but I know I do. He admitted that I did as well. He was not ready to cope with it, nor was he ready for someone to make him accountable. It took too much for him to be held responsible, that would require him to be vulnerable, to let go of pride and ego. He wanted to play this game, I chose the exit.
From day one, all I asked of him was honesty, openness, and communication. He did not give it to me, so now that he is choosing to make me an option, I will make him history. Often times, he saw more into my need for space, or brooding moods, as manipulation. When every single time I told him, exactly what and why I was the way I was, or what my emotions were. He never believed my words. Blunt and direct, am I in relationship. Perhaps, he thought it too good to be true, that a woman could be that way. That is too bad then, he got honesty, he chose not to believe it. That is his problem and issue to bear, not mine.
Otherwise, for the saner examples of Water Bearer men. Your explanation has been spot on, and exactly as have been my experiences. I adore their mental strength, eccentricity, and lack of judgement. Even if they judge, they would still choose to try to understand it. 🙂
Posted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by Black-MambaPosted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by Black-Mamba
Its very weird to see this very human aspect to your personality.
I thought you were a femme fatale.
Goes out the window with Aqua men. Doesn’t work.
I had an aqua hit on me the other night
I felt very comfortable
There was a connection
Very surprising
I don't trust aqua energy tho. I KNOW the dictator exists and cold persona
In bed yes. 🤙🏽click to expand
Hah, Water Bearer men are not always that Dominant in bed. I will not say more. 😈
Posted by Black-MambaPosted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by Black-MambaPosted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by Black-Mamba
Its very weird to see this very human aspect to your personality.
I thought you were a femme fatale.
Goes out the window with Aqua men. Doesn’t work.
I had an aqua hit on me the other night
I felt very comfortable
There was a connection
Very surprising
I don't trust aqua energy tho. I KNOW the dictator exists and cold persona
In bed yes. 🤙🏽
Yeah mkay
I know aquas. They're okay with dictatorships. Fakest pro humans aliveclick to expand
i'd be scared to go against a dictator lol
i would have to have "POWER" to go against power...
it's the only way...otherwise, I will just side with who has the biggest power.
it's called surviving. but i won't abide by inhumanity though. (if i have NO power and just a measly commoner... then id rather die --- to live seeing inhumane things done to others is not a way to live, or just shut myself in a tower so i dont see what's going on. being BLIND to what's going on...see no evil)
the only one i know who managed is Susan B. Anthony and Abraham Lincoln.
otherwise, many of them go with the times...and depend on the survival of the fittest, or survive with the times.
we're all human not gods.
Posted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ASCoppVenusPosted by MyStarsShine
The behaviour halal was talking off happened to me twice with Aqua men....both were terrified of losing themselves in me, they did the hot and cold, push and pull thing, it's almost as though i had to go back to the second one for round two. The similarities in behaviour was astounding and enough to show me, I'd not go back for round three
I believe when we go back to the same sign, it is often life's way of presenting the same issues that we didn't deal with the first, second or even third time. This is why some people get stuck on the same sign......they get trapped in the same pattern of behaviour
Messy...
Damn. I hope all my issues have been addressed already with aquas so this third one is better 🤣
Hope so!
I stopped at two.....two Aquas and two Aries....
Thinking back stars, I find it strange how we have both experienced Virgents / Water Bearers / and Rams.
Are there any other signs you have had experiences with, that I should be aware of ? 😆
/saidinjestclick to expand
Haha....I am not sure there is one designed for the Scorpio woman (or man)
We're not the easiest to please....😃
Posted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by Black-MambaPosted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by Black-Mamba
Its very weird to see this very human aspect to your personality.
I thought you were a femme fatale.
Goes out the window with Aqua men. Doesn’t work.
I had an aqua hit on me the other night
I felt very comfortable
There was a connection
Very surprising
I don't trust aqua energy tho. I KNOW the dictator exists and cold persona
In bed yes. 🤙🏽
Hah, Water Bearer men are not always that Dominant in bed. I will not say more. 😈click to expand
hmm u havent met certain aqua men.
my aqua ex was a very very dominant man.
it was the only thing about him that was a big plus.
i only managed to read the first and 2nd post of yours here
this guy is really dramatic. and is hurt and pissed off so far. He kind of knows you were not into him, like you had your foot out one door too. You both were unsure of eachother...wary and that is why you didnt trust eachother completely.
i need more coffee to read on..
this guy is really dramatic. and is hurt and pissed off so far. He kind of knows you were not into him, like you had your foot out one door too. You both were unsure of eachother...wary and that is why you didnt trust eachother completely.
i need more coffee to read on..
[Update]
Finally, got the last of my belongings or what he was willing to put outside of his home.
How it happened, well this is what the situation looked like ...
He put it out before the set time we agreed on (thirty minutes prior), which I had already told him not to.
As I do not want my belongings taken or stolen. He seems, afraid to even see me. As if I am the plague.
Why the fear, I have no fear if I ever were to see him again, which we will, it is bound to happen as we move in mutual circles, to avoid me like the plague ?
It was already stated that I would not speak with him should I even see him, be it alone or with another woman.
He disrespected our agreement, I let it go. I did not say anything.
He then told me he waited for me for fifteen minutes, and he was going to leave (this was still a good fifteen minutes before our agreed set time). He took a picture, as evidence he had put my belongings outside his home, and sent it to me.
Then began to pester me, prior to the set time, whether or not I have taken them yet.
He kept updating / pestering me on his whereabouts (this was how we used to communicate, he would update me small details about his day until he saw me again), by this time I did not want to look at his messages.
I simply wanted to arrive at the set time, take whatever belongings he left out, and leave.
Wanted to keep my sanity about me, and calm.
When I arrived, not only did he leave out part of my belongings but part of my food as well (since I was the one purchasing groceries for the both of us, amongst other things at his place, if I were to be petty, I would dare say he would never buy half as good quality things as I did for us, because he is a cheap bastard, for others, but not for himself ... but I digress). Strangely enough, he only left out the food he personally did not like to eat. Everything of mine, that he enjoyed, he kept, including part of my belongings. One of those food items, was a tin of biscuits that he had bought me from one of his business trips earlier in which I had not gotten around to eating yet. I was surprised he remembered enough to put it out amongst my belongings, but I did not take it.
I let it be, I wanted to move on, and no longer wanted to deal with this. I took my belongings, but left the food behind.
Took a picture for evidence though, for my own sake. The food he could have, I was classy enough to leave it behind for him.
I left, only for him to continually message me. Asking whether or not I took my belongings, why I was not looking at his messages, why was I not replying him, that he could see me online, why was I ignoring him, then he threw a small fit. Finally he said, I assume you came and took your belongings, bye. He was talking with himself, for over an hour after our agreed time of pick up. I did not reply him, not out of manipulation but truly what was there left to say but nothing.
Why this behaviour, what did he expect ?
Finally, got the last of my belongings or what he was willing to put outside of his home.
How it happened, well this is what the situation looked like ...
He put it out before the set time we agreed on (thirty minutes prior), which I had already told him not to.
As I do not want my belongings taken or stolen. He seems, afraid to even see me. As if I am the plague.
Why the fear, I have no fear if I ever were to see him again, which we will, it is bound to happen as we move in mutual circles, to avoid me like the plague ?
It was already stated that I would not speak with him should I even see him, be it alone or with another woman.
He disrespected our agreement, I let it go. I did not say anything.
He then told me he waited for me for fifteen minutes, and he was going to leave (this was still a good fifteen minutes before our agreed set time). He took a picture, as evidence he had put my belongings outside his home, and sent it to me.
Then began to pester me, prior to the set time, whether or not I have taken them yet.
He kept updating / pestering me on his whereabouts (this was how we used to communicate, he would update me small details about his day until he saw me again), by this time I did not want to look at his messages.
I simply wanted to arrive at the set time, take whatever belongings he left out, and leave.
Wanted to keep my sanity about me, and calm.
When I arrived, not only did he leave out part of my belongings but part of my food as well (since I was the one purchasing groceries for the both of us, amongst other things at his place, if I were to be petty, I would dare say he would never buy half as good quality things as I did for us, because he is a cheap bastard, for others, but not for himself ... but I digress). Strangely enough, he only left out the food he personally did not like to eat. Everything of mine, that he enjoyed, he kept, including part of my belongings. One of those food items, was a tin of biscuits that he had bought me from one of his business trips earlier in which I had not gotten around to eating yet. I was surprised he remembered enough to put it out amongst my belongings, but I did not take it.
I let it be, I wanted to move on, and no longer wanted to deal with this. I took my belongings, but left the food behind.
Took a picture for evidence though, for my own sake. The food he could have, I was classy enough to leave it behind for him.
I left, only for him to continually message me. Asking whether or not I took my belongings, why I was not looking at his messages, why was I not replying him, that he could see me online, why was I ignoring him, then he threw a small fit. Finally he said, I assume you came and took your belongings, bye. He was talking with himself, for over an hour after our agreed time of pick up. I did not reply him, not out of manipulation but truly what was there left to say but nothing.
Why this behaviour, what did he expect ?
kquote> Posted by Black-Mamba
Its very weird to see this very human aspect to your personality.
I thought you were a femme fatale.
😆
Posted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by Black-Mamba
Its very weird to see this very human aspect to your personality.
I thought you were a femme fatale.
Goes out the window with Aqua men. Doesn’t work.click to expand
with pisces placements it doesn't LOL
both go down with emotional drama and suffering 😢
Posted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by Waterbearerwearer
I’ve seen so many women try and crack an Aqua.
Only Aqua can do that to Aqua. We freeze up and get Uranium af for a time but we won’t hunt you down. That chasing down is an emotional game.
For instance people on here talk shiiit about me for a time, I don’t actively seek the drama. It’s heppening.,,cool. When they come to me or in proximity to me and I’m present to the BS then I come alive.
Point is we don’t seek the turnulence.
If he does he has water with more genial orbs.
I have a family full of Aqua men and all my friends are mostly Aqua. I’ve seen stunning women left high and dry because of the disorientation. They think their beauty will get them home and hosed.
Wrong.
They need substance. They want a women who will lead the way and make him accountable but more importantly a women who won’t fallback on juvenile mind manipulation tactics.
He sees it a mile off and will check out... he may engage for casual sex but hes consciousness is turned off and that’s very dangerous relating for Aqua.
True, but I have had Water Bearer men propose to me in the past therefore it has been cracked before.
Although, almost ever Water Bearer man I ever had anything with, had a few strong water placements, either in Merfolk or Stinger.
Except, everyone of them. By the end, they were the one to hunt me down, and I was the one to freeze up, going cold. They chased, they did all sorts of things, some sane, some less sane, to garner attention. Therefore at times Water Bearers do seek drama, I do not doubt that you do not. There are some that do, but more so, I believe they are more of a subset of Water Bearers, the lesser subset.
Yes, I have seen some of these same Water Bearer men also leave very intelligent and beautiful women high and dry over nothing. These women did not believe their beauty would get them home, but nonetheless, it did not keep them returning.
The issues here with this negative example of a Water Bearer man (not all are like this, not by far), I had substance, not to seem arrogant but I know I do. He admitted that I did as well. He was not ready to cope with it, nor was he ready for someone to make him accountable. It took too much for him to be held responsible, that would require him to be vulnerable, to let go of pride and ego. He wanted to play this game, I chose the exit.
From day one, all I asked of him was honesty, openness, and communication. He did not give it to me, so now that he is choosing to make me an option, I will make him history. Often times, he saw more into my need for space, or brooding moods, as manipulation. When every single time I told him, exactly what and why I was the way I was, or what my emotions were. He never believed my words. Blunt and direct, am I in relationship. Perhaps, he thought it too good to be true, that a woman could be that way. That is too bad then, he got honesty, he chose not to believe it. That is his problem and issue to bear, not mine.
Otherwise, for the saner examples of Water Bearer men. Your explanation has been spot on, and exactly as have been my experiences. I adore their mental strength, eccentricity, and lack of judgement. Even if they judge, they would still choose to try to understand it. 🙂
I hear you but like you said heavy water placements.
He will chase if he knows he genuinely fkd a good thing.
I totally disagree that Aqua don’t deliver on their word. Most demonstrative and community minded sign on the zodiac.
They will consider your children, parents and neighbour it’s that chronic.
Even though you were clear about your need for space and brooding tendencies that would annoy an Aqua to the hilt.
It’s disorientating.
If you need to process things alone what’s the point in being in a relationship.
That’s the part about Scorp I don’t get.
It’s dichotomous and a little hard to navigate for physical Aqua.click to expand
Hah, that is strange because this Water Bearer needed his space and his brooding time as well. When he needed his, it should be acceptable and when it came to me, who needed it, it was not. Double Standards. I needed the physical as much as he needed his, however he was all sorts of needing it one day and not another.
I completely agree with the bolded statement, every single one of the Water Bearer men in my past were like so. Which was why I treated this last one with the same behaviour, of letting him be free, to be his humanitarian self but this anomaly of a Water Bearer did not enough it. It baffled me. It truly did. As in the past, it always worked, when you allow them to be that community, people minded person. They will come running back to you, because they know you trust them and their need to understand, and dissect people. This particular Water Bearer hated it when I let him go out, to do what I thought Water Bearer did best. He hated the community, perhaps that may have been an issue. He must have been a broken Water Bearer. 😆
Posted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by Black-MambaPosted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by Black-Mamba
Its very weird to see this very human aspect to your personality.
I thought you were a femme fatale.
Goes out the window with Aqua men. Doesn’t work.
I had an aqua hit on me the other night
I felt very comfortable
There was a connection
Very surprising
I don't trust aqua energy tho. I KNOW the dictator exists and cold persona
In bed yes. 🤙🏽
Hah, Water Bearer men are not always that Dominant in bed. I will not say more. 😈
They try anything and love to please. The men espclick to expand
Yes, surprisingly so.
They work very hard to please, and will ask what you want or need. They will remember it, and try to enact it every time. Although still not nearly as service orientated as Virgo placements, that is on another level completely.
I find Water Bearer women more Dominant in general than Water Bearer men. Water Bearer men are masculine, that indeed they are which is why they are as attractive and delicious as they are, but not Dominant.
Then it became war, on his part.
He shouted at me through messages. He hurled more hateful words at me, said he never wanted to see or talk to me again. No more friendship, nothing at all. Will leave my belongings outside his home, and I could pick them up. He would cancel and block me on any mutual connection platforms we are on. He declared my words as all bullturd, when quite frankly it was the truth. He knows it, as well. I was meant to be able to pick up my last few belongings the following day. However, he told me he would block me till four days later, a Thursday. Before I could say anything, I was cut out. He said we will talk then. I did not like having to drag this out. When things finish, I prefer to tear it off like a bandaid.
He unblocked me on half of the platforms, immediately the next day. However, I did not write or reach out. I truly wanted to be alone, and mull over my own wounds. Then most recently, he wrote me, before the four days was over, on a Wednesday. To not talk but be exceedingly rude, to give me an option to pick it up immediately or to wait till Saturday. Enough games, I did not deserve this at all. I had done nothing wrong all along, I did not deserve such hate, spitefulness, vindictiveness, or vengeful ways. I told him I will pick it up the next day, on Thursday, as previously said. I did not wish to prolong it. He kept making my life difficult saying that was not possible. Which meant, he already found my replacement, or at least a woman will be at his place on Thursday and Friday. I told him regardless, I will be arriving. He told me he will simply leave it out, if anything happens to it that will be my fault. I told him, tell me the time, when you will put it out, I will be there. He would not let me arrive the moment he took it out. I told him, enough, you have your wishes so do I, respect my choices. I wish to ensure my belongings are safe, I will pick them up the minute you put them out. I will not talk to you, or whoever you are with at your home.
He blocked me for a few days, to find a woman, to shove in my face that he did not miss me ?
He prolonged things to prove that point to me ?
He was the one to finish what we had, was that not enough ?
Why would he not let me move on, and pick up the rest of my belongings, immediately the day after (after all, I had made that request, I just wanted to move on) ?
Are Water Bearers usually this vengeful and callous ?
that is really cruel of him. 😢
i would he rather just slink off into the night...and fade away. But that is also cruel.
it does sound like he is very very hurt, but his methods are so open.
what was his venus and mars and mercury again?
i know u said he is pisces moon. but i'd take a good look at his mercury too, and how it aspects his mars/venus.
the men i know who have water venus, mars, mercury go about it "hidden" and it's also very very HURTFUL.
they will find your weakness, test what hurts you the most!! and you end up suffering alot 😢
your aqua sounds like he does things to openly hurt you, his methods like i said are so open and expressive. it is also very hurtful too.
He shouted at me through messages. He hurled more hateful words at me, said he never wanted to see or talk to me again. No more friendship, nothing at all. Will leave my belongings outside his home, and I could pick them up. He would cancel and block me on any mutual connection platforms we are on. He declared my words as all bullturd, when quite frankly it was the truth. He knows it, as well. I was meant to be able to pick up my last few belongings the following day. However, he told me he would block me till four days later, a Thursday. Before I could say anything, I was cut out. He said we will talk then. I did not like having to drag this out. When things finish, I prefer to tear it off like a bandaid.
He unblocked me on half of the platforms, immediately the next day. However, I did not write or reach out. I truly wanted to be alone, and mull over my own wounds. Then most recently, he wrote me, before the four days was over, on a Wednesday. To not talk but be exceedingly rude, to give me an option to pick it up immediately or to wait till Saturday. Enough games, I did not deserve this at all. I had done nothing wrong all along, I did not deserve such hate, spitefulness, vindictiveness, or vengeful ways. I told him I will pick it up the next day, on Thursday, as previously said. I did not wish to prolong it. He kept making my life difficult saying that was not possible. Which meant, he already found my replacement, or at least a woman will be at his place on Thursday and Friday. I told him regardless, I will be arriving. He told me he will simply leave it out, if anything happens to it that will be my fault. I told him, tell me the time, when you will put it out, I will be there. He would not let me arrive the moment he took it out. I told him, enough, you have your wishes so do I, respect my choices. I wish to ensure my belongings are safe, I will pick them up the minute you put them out. I will not talk to you, or whoever you are with at your home.
He blocked me for a few days, to find a woman, to shove in my face that he did not miss me ?
He prolonged things to prove that point to me ?
He was the one to finish what we had, was that not enough ?
Why would he not let me move on, and pick up the rest of my belongings, immediately the day after (after all, I had made that request, I just wanted to move on) ?
Are Water Bearers usually this vengeful and callous ?
that is really cruel of him. 😢
i would he rather just slink off into the night...and fade away. But that is also cruel.
it does sound like he is very very hurt, but his methods are so open.
what was his venus and mars and mercury again?
i know u said he is pisces moon. but i'd take a good look at his mercury too, and how it aspects his mars/venus.
the men i know who have water venus, mars, mercury go about it "hidden" and it's also very very HURTFUL.
they will find your weakness, test what hurts you the most!! and you end up suffering alot 😢
your aqua sounds like he does things to openly hurt you, his methods like i said are so open and expressive. it is also very hurtful too.
Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by ASCoppVenusPosted by MyStarsShine
The behaviour halal was talking off happened to me twice with Aqua men....both were terrified of losing themselves in me, they did the hot and cold, push and pull thing, it's almost as though i had to go back to the second one for round two. The similarities in behaviour was astounding and enough to show me, I'd not go back for round three
I believe when we go back to the same sign, it is often life's way of presenting the same issues that we didn't deal with the first, second or even third time. This is why some people get stuck on the same sign......they get trapped in the same pattern of behaviour
Messy...
Damn. I hope all my issues have been addressed already with aquas so this third one is better 🤣
Hope so!
I stopped at two.....two Aquas and two Aries....
Thinking back stars, I find it strange how we have both experienced Virgents / Water Bearers / and Rams.
Are there any other signs you have had experiences with, that I should be aware of ? 😆
/saidinjest
Haha....I am not sure there is one designed for the Scorpio woman (or man)
We're not the easiest to please....😃click to expand
At the current moment, I believe I am my best lover. 😆
Yes, we are not the easiest to please but we also have a lot to give.
You win some, you lose some. It truly depends on the person.
After all, love is a risky business.
@lisabethur8
Once, you get to my latest update you will see that his callous / vindictive behaviour has not stopped. For all I know, I was not perfect but what I do know is I had done nothing to deserve this ending.
This is his chart -
Water Bearer Sun
Merman Moon
Goat Mercury
Goat Venus
Goat Mars
Once, you get to my latest update you will see that his callous / vindictive behaviour has not stopped. For all I know, I was not perfect but what I do know is I had done nothing to deserve this ending.
This is his chart -
Water Bearer Sun
Merman Moon
Goat Mercury
Goat Venus
Goat Mars
Posted by lisabethur8Posted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by Black-MambaPosted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by Black-Mamba
Its very weird to see this very human aspect to your personality.
I thought you were a femme fatale.
Goes out the window with Aqua men. Doesn’t work.
I had an aqua hit on me the other night
I felt very comfortable
There was a connection
Very surprising
I don't trust aqua energy tho. I KNOW the dictator exists and cold persona
In bed yes. 🤙🏽
Hah, Water Bearer men are not always that Dominant in bed. I will not say more. 😈
hmm u havent met certain aqua men.
my aqua ex was a very very dominant man.
it was the only thing about him that was a big plus.click to expand
Is that so ?
Perhaps one day, I will meet another Water Bearer man and find out. 🙂
Otherwise, all the other ones I have met, were Dominant and Masculine outside of the bedroom but not always necessarily so inside it. I would still say overall, their energy was still very Masculine but not Dominant. I was always the leader, they also seemed to enjoy that dynamic.
Posted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by Waterbearerwearer
Sorry this has happened. It’s a crazy time for us Aqua.
No excuses though.
Fret not @Waterbearerwearer, for all the bad experiences I have had with Water Bearers I also have had some of the most genuine and beautiful experiences with your kind. I do not hold a few bad apples, against the entire sign. 🙂
Although, a crazy time for you lot. Why is that ?
We have some heavy transits creating havoc atm..
We just did mars rx in Aqua for like 7 weeks in a fixed orb.
Longest fixed orb in a very long time
Mars only going rx every 2 years so it’s very rare to have Aqua so held down which we were
So from now till October we are basically shooting from the hip and throwing caution to the wind.
Also some heavy Pluto rx in Capricorn but verging on Aqua territory. It’s at almost the precipice of Aqua so it’s very strong.
Extremely strong. So if your Aqua has strong Cap chances are he’s in a real self destructive mode.
He’s getting sloppy.
click to expand
oh wow, Capricorn placements are going crazy huh? with Pluto Capricorn. It's time for a re-birth.
Posted by TheLadyScorpio
@lisabethur8
Once, you get to my latest update you will see that his callous / vindictive behaviour has not stopped. For all I know, I was not perfect but what I do know is I had done nothing to deserve this ending.
This is his chart -
Water Bearer Sun
Merman Moon
Goat Mercury
Goat Venus
Goat Mars
oh wwow....that capricorn stellium. it just doesn't stop. how horrible.
he must be taking out all that hurt he held inside for so long.
i find earth placements very very much like that. they will make u suffer if you make them suffer, they do have a vindictive side yes.
but they are also easy to calm down... just let him be, allow him space.
tell him plainly you do NOT deserve this kind of treatment,
and tell him good bye.
i guarantee if he knows that what he did is WRONG, and he will feel that he is in the wrong for the explosive way he went about it, he will come back and apologize,
but unless he can change this aspect about him.,,, because you dont want a REPEAT of this kind of behavviour in the future, he has to change.
Posted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by lisabethur8Posted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by Black-MambaPosted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by Black-Mamba
Its very weird to see this very human aspect to your personality.
I thought you were a femme fatale.
Goes out the window with Aqua men. Doesn’t work.
I had an aqua hit on me the other night
I felt very comfortable
There was a connection
Very surprising
I don't trust aqua energy tho. I KNOW the dictator exists and cold persona
In bed yes. 🤙🏽
Hah, Water Bearer men are not always that Dominant in bed. I will not say more. 😈
hmm u havent met certain aqua men.
my aqua ex was a very very dominant man.
it was the only thing about him that was a big plus.
Is that so ?
Perhaps one day, I will meet another Water Bearer man and find out. 🙂
Otherwise, all the other ones I have met, were Dominant and Masculine outside of the bedroom but not always necessarily so inside it. I would still say overall, their energy was still very Masculine but not Dominant. I was always the leader, they also seemed to enjoy that dynamic.click to expand
the ex i had was cancer rising, capricorn moon with aries stellium...so he had a strong CARDINAL energy..
it might be that is why. lol with Aqua sun/Mars conjunct which is no wimpy guy lol
a little information:
i also had a problem with this with my husband early in our relationship but i changed because i LOVE him.
and also i got scared xd
i had a temper tantrum in the car, and he hates that, and he rolled up the windows because he doesn't want anyone hearing next to us in the car and said to me in a deadly voice, 'i dont ever want to hear that from you again.. " meaning my little temper tantrums.
and believe me, i sniffled and almost teared up and i NEVER did it again. i dont even want to have any temper tantrums ...infact i hardly ever have them ever.
i was a little childish (blame my packed 1st house) and my husband knows how to control me lol
i also had a problem with this with my husband early in our relationship but i changed because i LOVE him.
and also i got scared xd
i had a temper tantrum in the car, and he hates that, and he rolled up the windows because he doesn't want anyone hearing next to us in the car and said to me in a deadly voice, 'i dont ever want to hear that from you again.. " meaning my little temper tantrums.
and believe me, i sniffled and almost teared up and i NEVER did it again. i dont even want to have any temper tantrums ...infact i hardly ever have them ever.
i was a little childish (blame my packed 1st house) and my husband knows how to control me lol
Posted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by Waterbearerwearer
I’ve seen so many women try and crack an Aqua.
Only Aqua can do that to Aqua. We freeze up and get Uranium af for a time but we won’t hunt you down. That chasing down is an emotional game.
For instance people on here talk shiiit about me for a time, I don’t actively seek the drama. It’s heppening.,,cool. When they come to me or in proximity to me and I’m present to the BS then I come alive.
Point is we don’t seek the turnulence.
If he does he has water with more genial orbs.
I have a family full of Aqua men and all my friends are mostly Aqua. I’ve seen stunning women left high and dry because of the disorientation. They think their beauty will get them home and hosed.
Wrong.
They need substance. They want a women who will lead the way and make him accountable but more importantly a women who won’t fallback on juvenile mind manipulation tactics.
He sees it a mile off and will check out... he may engage for casual sex but hes consciousness is turned off and that’s very dangerous relating for Aqua.
True, but I have had Water Bearer men propose to me in the past therefore it has been cracked before.
Although, almost ever Water Bearer man I ever had anything with, had a few strong water placements, either in Merfolk or Stinger.
Except, everyone of them. By the end, they were the one to hunt me down, and I was the one to freeze up, going cold. They chased, they did all sorts of things, some sane, some less sane, to garner attention. Therefore at times Water Bearers do seek drama, I do not doubt that you do not. There are some that do, but more so, I believe they are more of a subset of Water Bearers, the lesser subset.
Yes, I have seen some of these same Water Bearer men also leave very intelligent and beautiful women high and dry over nothing. These women did not believe their beauty would get them home, but nonetheless, it did not keep them returning.
The issues here with this negative example of a Water Bearer man (not all are like this, not by far), I had substance, not to seem arrogant but I know I do. He admitted that I did as well. He was not ready to cope with it, nor was he ready for someone to make him accountable. It took too much for him to be held responsible, that would require him to be vulnerable, to let go of pride and ego. He wanted to play this game, I chose the exit.
From day one, all I asked of him was honesty, openness, and communication. He did not give it to me, so now that he is choosing to make me an option, I will make him history. Often times, he saw more into my need for space, or brooding moods, as manipulation. When every single time I told him, exactly what and why I was the way I was, or what my emotions were. He never believed my words. Blunt and direct, am I in relationship. Perhaps, he thought it too good to be true, that a woman could be that way. That is too bad then, he got honesty, he chose not to believe it. That is his problem and issue to bear, not mine.
Otherwise, for the saner examples of Water Bearer men. Your explanation has been spot on, and exactly as have been my experiences. I adore their mental strength, eccentricity, and lack of judgement. Even if they judge, they would still choose to try to understand it. 🙂
I hear you but like you said heavy water placements.
He will chase if he knows he genuinely fkd a good thing.
I totally disagree that Aqua don’t deliver on their word. Most demonstrative and community minded sign on the zodiac.
They will consider your children, parents and neighbour it’s that chronic.
Even though you were clear about your need for space and brooding tendencies that would annoy an Aqua to the hilt.
It’s disorientating.
If you need to process things alone what’s the point in being in a relationship.
That’s the part about Scorp I don’t get.
It’s dichotomous and a little hard to navigate for physical Aqua.click to expand
especially if he has capricorn too. They always deliver on their word. Something about being responsible. lol
they just hate it if they dont deliver..makes them feel like shit
Posted by lisabethur8Posted by TheLadyScorpio
@lisabethur8
Once, you get to my latest update you will see that his callous / vindictive behaviour has not stopped. For all I know, I was not perfect but what I do know is I had done nothing to deserve this ending.
This is his chart -
Water Bearer Sun
Merman Moon
Goat Mercury
Goat Venus
Goat Mars
oh wwow....that capricorn stellium. it just doesn't stop. how horrible.
he must be taking out all that hurt he held inside for so long.
i find earth placements very very much like that. they will make u suffer if you make them suffer, they do have a vindictive side yes.
but they are also easy to calm down... just let him be, allow him space.
tell him plainly you do NOT deserve this kind of treatment,
and tell him good bye.
i guarantee if he knows that what he did is WRONG, and he will feel that he is in the wrong for the explosive way he went about it, he will come back and apologize,
but unless he can change this aspect about him.,,, because you dont want a REPEAT of this kind of behavviour in the future, he has to change.click to expand
Bloody hell, I would not know where and how he had all that hurt from because I had not done anything to hurt him. After all, I loved him, therefore how I treated him was always with kindness, care, and respect. If he feels hurt about anything, either he kept misunderstanding me or misinterpreting things without communicating with me. That, or his insecurities overlook him, and he let his lack of self confidence drag him down.
Both traits, which he confessed to me that he is suffering from more than once. He never understood, how I seem that much more social and confidant as compared to him. I tried to teach him how to manage insecurities, because we all have them, as do I. It is not about getting rid of them, but being self aware enough to know how to manage them whenever they arise and not let it become self destructive. I am the victim here, as it is, even though I do not strongly identify with that mindset as it would keep me from moving forward. Therefore it would be to his own fault that he is suffering now.
I always kept the channels open, it would be to his own fault that he never spoke up. Yes, many days ago, the very last time we spoke properly before he blocked and unblocked me. I told him I did not deserve this treatment, I had firmly expressed this sentiment.
I have been giving him space, because I want to be alone now as well. Never have I written him, yet you saw how he behaved. He simply must make everything difficult, when it could have been amicable, or not merely cordial.
Only time will tell now, I do not hate him. If ever he should come back and apologies, I will forgive him but I will never be able to forget what he did to me, nor would I ever be able to trust him again. The likelihood and chances of him apologising seems low at the moment, but who knows, maybe he will surprise me in the future. It would make a difference to me, if I do receive an apology. Even if for the sake, that the blame is taken off me.
I still love him, as I cannot turn that off immediately, but I do so from a far now. I would still want him happy, but now I must focus on loving myself, my happiness is also as equally as important. Otherwise, thank you lisabethur 🙂
Posted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by WaterbearerwearerPosted by Black-Mamba
Its very weird to see this very human aspect to your personality.
I thought you were a femme fatale.
Goes out the window with Aqua men. Doesn’t work.
Strangely enough, I never used the Femme Fatale part of my personality on him. In fact, I never used that part of my personality on any of the Water Bearer men in my past. They never triggered that side of me, all I had to be was my quirky if not also eccentric self. Perhaps, that may have been the draw towards them. They preferred my hair down, always. 😆click to expand
your comment here on femme fatale and aqua men lol reminded me of Bridget Bardot's past history with her ex's.
She married an Aquarius man, with Cancer moon i think, and the 2nd and 3rd were Scorpio men, one with Leo moon and the other Gemini moon (The famous Gunter Sachs) and she was definitely a femme fatale of her time.
she also dated famous playboy men such as that french Cancer man with Leo moon, a tall version of Tom Cruise lol
and there was an Aquarius man in between who she asked to marry her, he had Pisces moon!!
and he was the ONLY man who turned her down.
interesting!!!
Posted by lisabethur8
a little information:
i also had a problem with this with my husband early in our relationship but i changed because i LOVE him.
and also i got scared xd
i had a temper tantrum in the car, and he hates that, and he rolled up the windows because he doesn't want anyone hearing next to us in the car and said to me in a deadly voice, 'i dont ever want to hear that from you again.. " meaning my little temper tantrums.
and believe me, i sniffled and almost teared up and i NEVER did it again. i dont even want to have any temper tantrums ...infact i hardly ever have them ever.
i was a little childish (blame my packed 1st house) and my husband knows how to control me lol
That does explain a lot, but I do not have the time to teach him how to be a man. I am not his mother, that should be a journey in which he needs to take alone. I have no desire to control him, though I have had a stern word with him before. Nothing too serious but my intent was stern. Nonetheless, I do not wish to scare a man into submission or to change. He must do so of his own accord. What he did was beyond a tantrum, even now he still throw small fits here and there.
Why seek for my attention after all that has happened, does he not understand that right now I need to be alone. If he wanted my attention, with a good intent, he would have apologised. Otherwise, it is for naught ... no ?
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