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I’ve seen so many women try and crack an Aqua.

Only Aqua can do that to Aqua. We freeze up and get Uranium af for a time but we won’t hunt you down. That chasing down is an emotional game.

For instance people on here talk shiiit about me for a time, I don’t actively seek the drama. It’s heppening.,,cool. When they come to me or in proximity to me and I’m present to the BS then I come alive.

Point is we don’t seek the turnulence.

If he does he has water with more genial orbs.



I have a family full of Aqua men and all my friends are mostly Aqua. I’ve seen stunning women left high and dry because of the disorientation. They think their beauty will get them home and hosed.

Wrong.

They need substance. They want a women who will lead the way and make him accountable but more importantly a women who won’t fallback on juvenile mind manipulation tactics.

He sees it a mile off and will check out... he may engage for casual sex but hes consciousness is turned off and that’s very dangerous relating for Aqua.






True, but I have had Water Bearer men propose to me in the past therefore it has been cracked before.

Although, almost ever Water Bearer man I ever had anything with, had a few strong water placements, either in Merfolk or Stinger.

Except, everyone of them. By the end, they were the one to hunt me down, and I was the one to freeze up, going cold. They chased, they did all sorts of things, some sane, some less sane, to garner attention. Therefore at times Water Bearers do seek drama, I do not doubt that you do not. There are some that do, but more so, I believe they are more of a subset of Water Bearers, the lesser subset.

Yes, I have seen some of these same Water Bearer men also leave very intelligent and beautiful women high and dry over nothing. These women did not believe their beauty would get them home, but nonetheless, it did not keep them returning.

The issues here with this negative example of a Water Bearer man (not all are like this, not by far), I had substance, not to seem arrogant but I know I do. He admitted that I did as well. He was not ready to cope with it, nor was he ready for someone to make him accountable. It took too much for him to be held responsible, that would require him to be vulnerable, to let go of pride and ego. He wanted to play this game, I chose the exit.

From day one, all I asked of him was honesty, openness, and communication. He did not give it to me, so now that he is choosing to make me an option, I will make him history. Often times, he saw more into my need for space, or brooding moods, as manipulation. When every single time I told him, exactly what and why I was the way I was, or what my emotions were. He never believed my words. Blunt and direct, am I in relationship. Perhaps, he thought it too good to be true, that a woman could be that way. That is too bad then, he got honesty, he chose not to believe it. That is his problem and issue to bear, not mine.

Otherwise, for the saner examples of Water Bearer men. Your explanation has been spot on, and exactly as have been my experiences. I adore their mental strength, eccentricity, and lack of judgement. Even if they judge, they would still choose to try to understand it. 🙂


I hear you but like you said heavy water placements.

He will chase if he knows he genuinely fkd a good thing.



I totally disagree that Aqua don’t deliver on their word. Most demonstrative and community minded sign on the zodiac.

They will consider your children, parents and neighbour it’s that chronic.



Even though you were clear about your need for space and brooding tendencies that would annoy an Aqua to the hilt.

It’s disorientating.

If you need to process things alone what’s the point in being in a relationship.



That’s the part about Scorp I don’t get.

It’s dichotomous and a little hard to navigate for physical Aqua.


especially if he has capricorn too. They always deliver on their word. Something about being responsible. lol

they just hate it if they dont deliver..makes them feel like shit
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Then he is a failure of an example of Goat energy, because he certainly failed to deliver. 😆
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Once, you get to my latest update you will see that his callous / vindictive behaviour has not stopped. For all I know, I was not perfect but what I do know is I had done nothing to deserve this ending.

This is his chart -

Water Bearer Sun

Merman Moon

Goat Mercury

Goat Venus

Goat Mars




oh wwow....that capricorn stellium. it just doesn't stop. how horrible.

he must be taking out all that hurt he held inside for so long.

i find earth placements very very much like that. they will make u suffer if you make them suffer, they do have a vindictive side yes.

but they are also easy to calm down... just let him be, allow him space.

tell him plainly you do NOT deserve this kind of treatment,

and tell him good bye.

i guarantee if he knows that what he did is WRONG, and he will feel that he is in the wrong for the explosive way he went about it, he will come back and apologize,

but unless he can change this aspect about him.,,, because you dont want a REPEAT of this kind of behavviour in the future, he has to change.


Bloody hell, I would not know where and how he had all that hurt from because I had not done anything to hurt him. After all, I loved him, therefore how I treated him was always with kindness, care, and respect. If he feels hurt about anything, either he kept misunderstanding me or misinterpreting things without communicating with me. That, or his insecurities overlook him, and he let his lack of self confidence drag him down.

Both traits, which he confessed to me that he is suffering from more than once. He never understood, how I seem that much more social and confidant as compared to him. I tried to teach him how to manage insecurities, because we all have them, as do I. It is not about getting rid of them, but being self aware enough to know how to manage them whenever they arise and not let it become self destructive. I am the victim here, as it is, even though I do not strongly identify with that mindset as it would keep me from moving forward. Therefore it would be to his own fault that he is suffering now.

I always kept the channels open, it would be to his own fault that he never spoke up. Yes, many days ago, the very last time we spoke properly before he blocked and unblocked me. I told him I did not deserve this treatment, I had firmly expressed this sentiment.

I have been giving him space, because I want to be alone now as well. Never have I written him, yet you saw how he behaved. He simply must make everything difficult, when it could have been amicable, or not merely cordial.

Only time will tell now, I do not hate him. If ever he should come back and apologies, I will forgive him but I will never be able to forget what he did to me, nor would I ever be able to trust him again. The likelihood and chances of him apologising seems low at the moment, but who knows, maybe he will surprise me in the future. It would make a difference to me, if I do receive an apology. Even if for the sake, that the blame is taken off me.

I still love him, as I cannot turn that off immediately, but I do so from a far now. I would still want him happy, but now I must focus on loving myself, my happiness is also as equally as important. Otherwise, thank you lisabethur 🙂
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you're welcome. I hope he comes back and apologizes to you because you do not deserve that kind of treatment. he may have gone off the deep rails and gotten jealousy but he kept going on and on? There is something deeply inside him that is hurting and he lacks the ability to trust you 100% .

sounds like, he doesn't feel like he wants to INVEST in you completely, so he keeps those doors open and afraid of getting hurt so he hurts you instead....he doesnt want to feel your love and that is a deep shame that he doesn't allow himself to love.



and yes, i would not be able to trust him again, if he ever came to apologize. the trust would be slow... it would take YEARS for him to really get over that hurdle.

because in the back of your mind, you are thinking he might do it again and you will be deeply hurt again.

sometimes it's worth it when they show that slow gradual change... like a huge transformation. but i dont know if this guy is ready for that. He has so much inside him that is suffering and lacking of love. he needs to open up and love.
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a little information:

i also had a problem with this with my husband early in our relationship but i changed because i LOVE him.

and also i got scared xd

i had a temper tantrum in the car, and he hates that, and he rolled up the windows because he doesn't want anyone hearing next to us in the car and said to me in a deadly voice, 'i dont ever want to hear that from you again.. " meaning my little temper tantrums.

and believe me, i sniffled and almost teared up and i NEVER did it again. i dont even want to have any temper tantrums ...infact i hardly ever have them ever.

i was a little childish (blame my packed 1st house) and my husband knows how to control me lol


That does explain a lot, but I do not have the time to teach him how to be a man. I am not his mother, that should be a journey in which he needs to take alone. I have no desire to control him, though I have had a stern word with him before. Nothing too serious but my intent was stern. Nonetheless, I do not wish to scare a man into submission or to change. He must do so of his own accord. What he did was beyond a tantrum, even now he still throw small fits here and there.

Why seek for my attention after all that has happened, does he not understand that right now I need to be alone. If he wanted my attention, with a good intent, he would have apologised. Otherwise, it is for naught ... no ?
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yeah i would never do something that your aqua man would do. that is just asking for trouble lol

not my nature either. I just have small temper tantrum fits. Now i just fold my arms and look angry

he does sound like a little boy who needs some mothering.

yes, a man must be able to change and to do so because he LOVES you and for you and him, not because you scared him into submission. lol

it may seem like i was scared into submission but in truth ...i do not ever want to lose my man. i love him too much.

that is the change i was talking about. and to grow into maturity.

but i'm still childish at times ;p



there's alot , your aqua man has to go through in life. I think having a relationship with you was really eye-opening for him, at least the experience.
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Once, you get to my latest update you will see that his callous / vindictive behaviour has not stopped. For all I know, I was not perfect but what I do know is I had done nothing to deserve this ending.

This is his chart -

Water Bearer Sun

Merman Moon

Goat Mercury

Goat Venus

Goat Mars




oh wwow....that capricorn stellium. it just doesn't stop. how horrible.

he must be taking out all that hurt he held inside for so long.

i find earth placements very very much like that. they will make u suffer if you make them suffer, they do have a vindictive side yes.

but they are also easy to calm down... just let him be, allow him space.

tell him plainly you do NOT deserve this kind of treatment,

and tell him good bye.

i guarantee if he knows that what he did is WRONG, and he will feel that he is in the wrong for the explosive way he went about it, he will come back and apologize,

but unless he can change this aspect about him.,,, because you dont want a REPEAT of this kind of behavviour in the future, he has to change.


Bloody hell, I would not know where and how he had all that hurt from because I had not done anything to hurt him. After all, I loved him, therefore how I treated him was always with kindness, care, and respect. If he feels hurt about anything, either he kept misunderstanding me or misinterpreting things without communicating with me. That, or his insecurities overlook him, and he let his lack of self confidence drag him down.

Both traits, which he confessed to me that he is suffering from more than once. He never understood, how I seem that much more social and confidant as compared to him. I tried to teach him how to manage insecurities, because we all have them, as do I. It is not about getting rid of them, but being self aware enough to know how to manage them whenever they arise and not let it become self destructive. I am the victim here, as it is, even though I do not strongly identify with that mindset as it would keep me from moving forward. Therefore it would be to his own fault that he is suffering now.

I always kept the channels open, it would be to his own fault that he never spoke up. Yes, many days ago, the very last time we spoke properly before he blocked and unblocked me. I told him I did not deserve this treatment, I had firmly expressed this sentiment.

I have been giving him space, because I want to be alone now as well. Never have I written him, yet you saw how he behaved. He simply must make everything difficult, when it could have been amicable, or not merely cordial.

Only time will tell now, I do not hate him. If ever he should come back and apologies, I will forgive him but I will never be able to forget what he did to me, nor would I ever be able to trust him again. The likelihood and chances of him apologising seems low at the moment, but who knows, maybe he will surprise me in the future. It would make a difference to me, if I do receive an apology. Even if for the sake, that the blame is taken off me.

I still love him, as I cannot turn that off immediately, but I do so from a far now. I would still want him happy, but now I must focus on loving myself, my happiness is also as equally as important. Otherwise, thank you lisabethur 🙂


you're welcome. I hope he comes back and apologizes to you because you do not deserve that kind of treatment. he may have gone off the deep rails and gotten jealousy but he kept going on and on? There is something deeply inside him that is hurting and he lacks the ability to trust you 100% .

sounds like, he doesn't feel like he wants to INVEST in you completely, so he keeps those doors open and afraid of getting hurt so he hurts you instead....he doesnt want to feel your love and that is a deep shame that he doesn't allow himself to love.



and yes, i would not be able to trust him again, if he ever came to apologize. the trust would be slow... it would take YEARS for him to really get over that hurdle.

because in the back of your mind, you are thinking he might do it again and you will be deeply hurt again.

sometimes it's worth it when they show that slow gradual change... like a huge transformation. but i dont know if this guy is ready for that. He has so much inside him that is suffering and lacking of love. he needs to open up and love.

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This is purely guesswork by now, but he never lived with a woman before. Therefore, he never trusted a woman to this level before. He admits so. He also said he thought I was the one, and I must be. Therefore, if he did truly love me. Then that love must have scared him, because if he finally found what he was looking for. Finally, he has a lot to lose should I leave, or perhaps that is where his insecurities got to him. That he thought one day I would be bored of him, and leave him for another man.

There was always a part of him that never believed I ever loved him. He always asked why I love him, that he did not believe that I did. What was there to love, what do you love about me, you could not possibly like what I have to give you. These were things he often said. I believe a part of him believed he did not deserve me, that any day I would up and leave for another man. Perhaps, he thought I settled for him. He hated men around me, he hated any remote attention I got, always thinking the worst of me should I get any. I would be open, and communicate with him anytime this occurred so as to reassure him where my love / loyalty lies but it never worked. That is a level of pain and hurt within him, that he inflicts on himself. No amount of my proving my love for him could fill that empty abyss.

After all, when we go out, I do get a fair amount of attention merely because I am more social and an ambivert whereas he is often in his introverted shell. He both loved and hated this trait of mine, as I could talk to most anyone. I tried to teach him this skill as well, as it is a skill which I grew into. I did not always have it, it was developed, by having a thick skin and building up my confidence / self esteem.

Hopefully, he will finally spend time working on himself. I doubt it though, I know he will cover his own issues with finding as many women to bed to take his mind off working on himself. He is lazy in his own personal development where as I am not. He both admires and envies my personal progress. I told him it took a lot of work to reach self awareness, and this level of confidence. It does not happen in a day, and I still have a lot of work to do as evident by many of the things the lovely DXPers here have pointed out to me. It is a continual journey. He must first be self aware, and be willing to admit to himself he needs to be alone to face his own issues. That takes courage, and he lacks it still. One day, I hope he will reach it and grow. Until then, I could only hope the best for him from a far. I cannot be there for him whilst he goes on that long arduous journey, not because I am not a fighter nor loyal. My love is strong, but even my love does not deserve to endure his personal demons.
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i am reminded of watching a few scenes of Nabilla Benattia (Aquarius sun, Pisces moon, Capricorn venus/Mars Mercury stellium, Jupiter virgo)

with her Double Virgo man ..Thomas Vergara, in the car. and he was angry at her!! and she was QUIET the entire time lol i can't find it.



but here is a scene with them in the supermarket and she starts crying!! and he is treating her here, like a consoling lover.



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@lisabethur8

Once, you get to my latest update you will see that his callous / vindictive behaviour has not stopped. For all I know, I was not perfect but what I do know is I had done nothing to deserve this ending.

This is his chart -

Water Bearer Sun

Merman Moon

Goat Mercury

Goat Venus

Goat Mars




oh wwow....that capricorn stellium. it just doesn't stop. how horrible.

he must be taking out all that hurt he held inside for so long.

i find earth placements very very much like that. they will make u suffer if you make them suffer, they do have a vindictive side yes.

but they are also easy to calm down... just let him be, allow him space.

tell him plainly you do NOT deserve this kind of treatment,

and tell him good bye.

i guarantee if he knows that what he did is WRONG, and he will feel that he is in the wrong for the explosive way he went about it, he will come back and apologize,

but unless he can change this aspect about him.,,, because you dont want a REPEAT of this kind of behavviour in the future, he has to change.


Bloody hell, I would not know where and how he had all that hurt from because I had not done anything to hurt him. After all, I loved him, therefore how I treated him was always with kindness, care, and respect. If he feels hurt about anything, either he kept misunderstanding me or misinterpreting things without communicating with me. That, or his insecurities overlook him, and he let his lack of self confidence drag him down.

Both traits, which he confessed to me that he is suffering from more than once. He never understood, how I seem that much more social and confidant as compared to him. I tried to teach him how to manage insecurities, because we all have them, as do I. It is not about getting rid of them, but being self aware enough to know how to manage them whenever they arise and not let it become self destructive. I am the victim here, as it is, even though I do not strongly identify with that mindset as it would keep me from moving forward. Therefore it would be to his own fault that he is suffering now.

I always kept the channels open, it would be to his own fault that he never spoke up. Yes, many days ago, the very last time we spoke properly before he blocked and unblocked me. I told him I did not deserve this treatment, I had firmly expressed this sentiment.

I have been giving him space, because I want to be alone now as well. Never have I written him, yet you saw how he behaved. He simply must make everything difficult, when it could have been amicable, or not merely cordial.

Only time will tell now, I do not hate him. If ever he should come back and apologies, I will forgive him but I will never be able to forget what he did to me, nor would I ever be able to trust him again. The likelihood and chances of him apologising seems low at the moment, but who knows, maybe he will surprise me in the future. It would make a difference to me, if I do receive an apology. Even if for the sake, that the blame is taken off me.

I still love him, as I cannot turn that off immediately, but I do so from a far now. I would still want him happy, but now I must focus on loving myself, my happiness is also as equally as important. Otherwise, thank you lisabethur 🙂


you're welcome. I hope he comes back and apologizes to you because you do not deserve that kind of treatment. he may have gone off the deep rails and gotten jealousy but he kept going on and on? There is something deeply inside him that is hurting and he lacks the ability to trust you 100% .

sounds like, he doesn't feel like he wants to INVEST in you completely, so he keeps those doors open and afraid of getting hurt so he hurts you instead....he doesnt want to feel your love and that is a deep shame that he doesn't allow himself to love.



and yes, i would not be able to trust him again, if he ever came to apologize. the trust would be slow... it would take YEARS for him to really get over that hurdle.

because in the back of your mind, you are thinking he might do it again and you will be deeply hurt again.

sometimes it's worth it when they show that slow gradual change... like a huge transformation. but i dont know if this guy is ready for that. He has so much inside him that is suffering and lacking of love. he needs to open up and love.




This is purely guesswork by now, but he never lived with a woman before. Therefore, he never trusted a woman to this level before. He admits so. He also said he thought I was the one, and I must be. Therefore, if he did truly love me. Then that love must have scared him, because if he finally found what he was looking for. Finally, he has a lot to lose should I leave, or perhaps that is where his insecurities got to him. That he thought one day I would be bored of him, and leave him for another man.

There was always a part of him that never believed I ever loved him. He always asked why I love him, that he did not believe that I did. What was there to love, what do you love about me, you could not possibly like what I have to give you. These were things he often said. I believe a part of him believed he did not deserve me, that any day I would up and leave for another man. Perhaps, he thought I settled for him. He hated men around me, he hated any remote attention I got, always thinking the worst of me should I get any. I would be open, and communicate with him anytime this occurred so as to reassure him where my love / loyalty lies but it never worked. That is a level of pain and hurt within him, that he inflicts on himself. No amount of my proving my love for him could fill that empty abyss.

After all, when we go out, I do get a fair amount of attention merely because I am more social and an ambivert whereas he is often in his introverted shell. He both loved and hated this trait of mine, as I could talk to most anyone. I tried to teach him this skill as well, as it is a skill which I grew into. I did not always have it, it was developed, by having a thick skin and building up my confidence / self esteem.

Hopefully, he will finally spend time working on himself. I doubt it though, I know he will cover his own issues with finding as many women to bed to take his mind off working on himself. He is lazy in his own personal development where as I am not. He both admires and envies my personal progress. I told him it took a lot of work to reach self awareness, and this level of confidence. It does not happen in a day, and I still have a lot of work to do as evident by many of the things the lovely DXPers here have pointed out to me. It is a continual journey. He must first be self aware, and be willing to admit to himself he needs to be alone to face his own issues. That takes courage, and he lacks it still. One day, I hope he will reach it and grow. Until then, I could only hope the best for him from a far. I cannot be there for him whilst he goes on that long arduous journey, not because I am not a fighter nor loyal. My love is strong, but even my love does not deserve to endure his personal demons.
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you need to fight together and work together as a couple...you can't carry him too. 😢

he has to realize that aspect of u, which is attracting alot of men, is part of who u are.

he's too jealous. My husband is jealous too, but he has controlled alot of that, plus he has a way of keeping me close.

let us know more of updates when and if he will come back to you

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I'm going out on a limb here and saying that the only truly successful marriages I've seen for an Aqua is indeed, with another Aqua.

Laughing at your bit about him being cheap with others but not himself, this is 100% how my Dad is. Love him to pieces, he taught me to stand on my own two feet as a strong, independent woman because I never had parents as a safety net.

Hope you are feeling better today @TheLadyScorpio.
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Bravo to you for walking away with dignity, nobody deserves to be thrown out in the middle of the night. Consider yourself lucky to have escaped the aquarian push/pull. They can be masters of the mind games, but not necessarily at forming loving, communicative relationships.

@ASCoppVenus, you have seen an aqua cry? That's surprising! In my lifetime of living with 3 aquas, only saw tears a couple of times. You must have really gotten to him...

Ms Stinger, use that surgical precision to cut him loose and never look back. There's a whole world of people out there that will appreciate and love you for your big heart.

🤗


Yes I have. I guess he knew I did love him but I was done. He said he thought we would just breakup but he will still see me. He never expected me to leave the country. But hey, I’m a gemini. I know how to leave a country for sure especially if i wanna start a new life and heal. And its what I did.
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Good for you! I've never left the country, but have no problem walking away when things are irreparable!
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But...you did nothing wrong ? How did he expects you to dance salsa ? Alone, perhaps ? I even see some married couples dancing that kind of dance with a teacher on TV. I think he was just waiting for a random excuse to break up with you.


Nothing. If I had done wrong, I would not be afraid to admit my fault in the matter.

In hindsight, I vaguely remember we had a discussion about dancing very early on when we first met one another. He found such dancing, as equivalent to two people having gone to bed with one another. He said no two people could possibly dance like that, and not end up together. Irrational jealousy is what I believe it was. You see, I have always been a dancer myself therefore my comfort zone in regards to having another individual up close to me, and sweaty is perhaps quite different to another. At the end of the day, it is dancing, to move intimately and to dance are two very different things. Dancing is equivalent to Acting. However, he always knew I was a dancer, and loved dancing. I never hid it from him, and I have so much as told him so.

That could be a possibility @peachy06, although if a man was simply looking for an excuse to break up with me. They would be far more indifferent, I have seen Water Bearers. If they merely want to leave, they are rather calm, and could care less. In this instance, he was not even the one broken up with. He had the upper hand in being the one to break up with me, yet he dragged it out in such a vindictive manner. A man who simply wants to leave, will merely leave. He would be relieved that I would be so quick to give him back his freedom.

Why and what would cause a man in that possible hypothesis to act out in this way ?
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To make it more believable. I agree with Peachy. He’s been trying to end things for a while now in my opinion. Thats why I asked you why you felt he deserved another chance. When people show you who they are believe them, the first time.
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Probably when your relationship is on the rocks, the best thing to do was not to go out dancing with other men. I read it from my perspective being that, you went out dancing because you felt scorned about his odd behaivor. If you were being completely honest with yourself, you can't say that there is no truth in that. Well that bit you in the butt. Aquarians won't play games like that, unless they have scorpio placements IMO.

There are few men out there who can be colder than an angry aquarius man. I have been on the receiving end multiple times, across many different relationship mediums lol. By a boyfriend, my father, and a friend. You need to give them space, a lot of space. But my experience with scorpios is that they will smother you during these times when they really care about you. I don't think he had ample time to cool off, you should have both exercised more self control. Especially you, as you paint yourself as the "logical" and more intelligent one here. You should have told him that you BOTH needed the space apart for awhile and stuck to your guns about it. His blocking you and unblocking you the next day, and you talking to him was not enough time for the dust to settle, hence why it blew up. He was very hurt and inflammatory, and you seemed to fuel the fires. I 100% think that if you gave him the space that he needed, he really would have came back and apologized and it could have changed the dynamic completely.


No, I went out dancing because for two days prior, in other realms of my life I was having a difficult time. Truly down in the dumps, and he knew about this. Dancing, was one of those few things that makes me truly happy. He knows this. I have not danced in a very long time. It was not to incite anything in him, it was for me. I truly needed something to cheer me up, especially since he was busy with a friend. It was me trying to entertain myself, not a ploy to get his attention.

That is me, being completely honest with myself. If it was a ploy, trust me, I would not have told him. Gone home, told him what I had done, and told him how enjoyable it was etc. That was not what I did, I involved him every step of the way. I wanted him to come, I truly wanted to dance with him, because I never have and it was something I always told him I wanted to do with him. Hah, the thought had turned me on. As inappropriate it is to say that now, but that was the truth. It was not a game.

The relationship was not on the rocks, he was acting strange yes, but on the rocks. It was not. Please read again, I did not smother him. I kept asking him to let me be, he kept coming at me. I did not want to talk to him, I did not message him after I moved my belongings. I stuck to my words, he was the one to write me with many accusations of threats etc. Also are you certain you read correctly. He blew up right after the dancing incident all the way till I was thrown out, and after. I was silent, after having left his home. He kept pushing me, after multiple request on my part, to be left alone, to stop pushing, to let me move on. He did not respect that, I blew up, then he blocked me. I did not talk to him again after he unblocked me. It was utter silence on my part, so do kindly read again what I had written.

It was in the wee hours of morning, how was either one of us going to have our space ?

How would you feel if you had not your own home keys with you, and told to go home with any man ?


I had to return to his home, if I had my own home keys. Trust me, I would have left him alone. Therefore please, read again, why the dynamics happened the way it did. I am not painting myself a certain way, I was emotional too, it was an emotional upheaval but out of the two of us. Yes, I will unashamedly say I was more logical and the more intelligent one. He admits it, not in a sarcastic manner either because he was caught out in multiple lies.
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You’re not being honest though because the relationship was on the rocks. You made three or four threads about issues in the last two weeks. Some advised to leave it alone but you pressed on and now you’re here.
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Reads like he consistently makes you feel unworthy, unlovable, overall not good enough 😢 To me, what you wrote about him in your other thread, sounds like you overdo it as far as effort and initiative because you feel like the relationship wont come to fruition if you dont do ALL the work?

I think you might have dragged this relationship out for so much longer than you should have because it seems like him treating you with resentment and recklessness is normalized in his mind

Personally that would be something I cant handle... whether it be from family, friend or lover. So if that would happen to me, Id just keep my distance really and allow them the space to show me how they feel about me. You just gotta not be scared of being unwanted by him or anyone. Everybody is going to be unwanted by somebody. Doesnt matter how rich, pretty, funny, smart etc etc. Someone will just not want you and this is something you should not take personally



Romantic relationships are complicated enough. Take away mutual desire and it becomes damn near impossible. Both people have to want each other BAD


In fact, I did very little for the longest time. He put in all the effort, pushing, and fighting for this to come to fruition. Convincing me that he wanted, and chose this exclusive / monogamous situation, until I finally gave in and believed him. Then after so, all the acts of service I did out of love, and only because he positively reinforced it. If someone, you cared about, kept complimenting, giving positive feedback, or even requesting more of such acts of services.



Would you have known that they did not like it ?



These were the kinds of questions I had asked of him. I am not an entire fool, but was made to feel like one. That was partially why I was feeling betrayed as well. If he did not enjoy my cooking, belongings around him, doing the laundry, etc. He could have easily said no, and I could have stopped. These were easy fixes, and things I could I turned off without a second thought. Yet, he watched me fail. He let me fail. He could never give me a straight answer, one minute he said he did love it, the next minute that he wanted his freedom, another minute that he loved it but hated it, etc. If he truly hated everything I did, he could have bloody well have done all those things himself. He is not disabled, but he did not take any of those initiatives but instead always asked for me to do so. If someone hated something that much, they would have done anything to not have to experience it. Yet no, he always kept asking for more.



Do you know how contradictory that is ?



It was his way to pout in almost a silly manner, if not flirtatious manner, to get those acts of services out of me. If I stopped them, he would be unhappy and asked me why I was not taking care of him. Keep in mind, these were things I never did to begin with. At the beginning, he asked for every single one of these tasks of me. He was the one to convince over and over again, to leave my belongings at his place. To move in, to stay, to have his keys etc. I was the one always having doubts, even told me perhaps we should take it slower, let me think. He was always the impatient one, asking why I could not do things now and why I must think. I am one to always think, weigh my options, and mull over things before I make a decision. Simply because I take my decisions very seriously.



So which is it, he could not have it both ways ? How would you feel when someone completely flipped the script on you, not only so but to blame you as well, then to tell you, you misunderstood everything ?



Every step along the way, I always checked in and asked, do you enjoy this, is this too much, are you happy etc. Not in those exact words, but you get the gist. I was always communicating with him, but he was not half as open and honest as I was. I am not scared, of being unwanted. Trust me, there were moments I have stepped away. He would pout, whine, complaining that I was being distant, and cold. When I wanted my space, he would constantly pester me saying he missed me and why I needed to be away for so long.



Would such mixed signals not drive you insane ?



It is partially why I feel as hurt as I do not, betrayed, lied to, and blamed.

As said, if he will not make me his everything, I will make him my nothing.

As a Stinger woman, I fear nothing.

Do not want me, do not choose me, and I will go.

We are not desperate, I always told him so.

Fear, is not what motivates me.


Hes been playing mind games since the beginning, and mind games are a precursor to emotional abuse. Which I think he has already subjected you to:

1. Mind games: youre constantly wondering whats going on. The uncertainty leaves you confused and worried

2. Hot and cold behavior

3. Excessive victimization, turning small offenses big in order to have the upper hand

Anyone that is ROUTINELY hot and cold with you, simply doesnt like you. They either like the things you do for them, the attention you give them or the fulfillment they get from successfully manipulating you but they dont like YOU as a person. Thats why they are hot when they want to use you and cold when theyve got their fill. Your feelings and needs are irrelevant because its not YOU they came for

The way he routinely treats you poorly is one of the most flagrant form of disrespect. I just hope you dont set yourself up as a puppet because you refused to be realistic


Great wisdom

You'd make a great inspirational speaker 👍


Lol youre always so kind to me! And yeah if theres one thing Ive found to be true about people in general from personal and professional experience, they are DESPERATELY seeking answers, guidance and someone to follow. Thats why inspirational speakers, life coaches, energy healers, psychics, televangelist pastors make BIG money, its really good business. But I dont think I would be good at convincing people en mass that I have the answers to their problems because I might be wrong lol! Its why I enjoy psychology, I prefer giving people the tools and insight to come to their own conclusions... my mantra is absolutely no one can provide anyone full guidance on life other than themselves. They have to walk their path and learn their lessons. Thats why we're alive



Real estate is the market Im trying to break into more. That BAG is HEEEEEAAAVY 😫 Thats why right now Im living my life below my means and invest all of my money for the next 12 years because by 40 the only things Im doing is sleeping on a really nice bed with a lot of pillows and having all of my favorite foods prepared for me, having sex or sitting on my porch with a glass of wine in my hand... either with a book or posting some bs online. I dont wanna deal with people anymore lmao. Weekly meetings with my accountant and business managers, nothing more
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You are a nice person so I try and give back what people give out, you're always helpful. The only people I ignore are the crazies......😳🙄' I'm impossible to troll because I'm never tempted to reply to people who get off on trying to wind others up. They just end up muttering inanely to themselves lol

I like your plan....good luck with it. I am actually due to train as a Life Coach for teens and hope to qualify next year, it's something I've done off the record so figured it would be helpful to get paid for it.

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@bkbella86, I do not think any of the hypothesis within this thread would be more believable over another. Even my own conclusion is only guesswork at this point. After all, I have had to settle with the idea that I will never know the honest truth. Therefore my closure, is what ever hypothesis I could work with. It may or may not be correct. You and I could both be wrong, and the honest truth could be a third alternative.

Yes, your hypothesis could be probable as well, I do not deny that. I felt he deserved another chance because after that argument I wanted to see if he would put more actions into his words. Sometimes, you must let the other person play out the storyline. Watching, and gauging the circumstances before you could truly judge the situation for what it is. I believe in waiting until people show me their true colours, they eventually will. If I were to run from every situation, the moment any hiccup occurred. All I would be doing in life is running, and I do not regret having given him a second chance.

Life is full of risks, I took a risk, not the best one in hindsight but I did. Regardless, I will recover from it and learn to prioritise my trust in my intuition. Which I had initially done, for a long time, regarding him. Yet some part of me, threw that out of the window because feelings and emotions got in the way. On top of that, my empathy for his thoughts, emotions, etc. also blinded me from my own intuition. I take full responsibility for that, which I had already stated so earlier within this thread.

This was a learning experience, a lesson which I will take forward and grow from.
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Probably when your relationship is on the rocks, the best thing to do was not to go out dancing with other men. I read it from my perspective being that, you went out dancing because you felt scorned about his odd behaivor. If you were being completely honest with yourself, you can't say that there is no truth in that. Well that bit you in the butt. Aquarians won't play games like that, unless they have scorpio placements IMO.

There are few men out there who can be colder than an angry aquarius man. I have been on the receiving end multiple times, across many different relationship mediums lol. By a boyfriend, my father, and a friend. You need to give them space, a lot of space. But my experience with scorpios is that they will smother you during these times when they really care about you. I don't think he had ample time to cool off, you should have both exercised more self control. Especially you, as you paint yourself as the "logical" and more intelligent one here. You should have told him that you BOTH needed the space apart for awhile and stuck to your guns about it. His blocking you and unblocking you the next day, and you talking to him was not enough time for the dust to settle, hence why it blew up. He was very hurt and inflammatory, and you seemed to fuel the fires. I 100% think that if you gave him the space that he needed, he really would have came back and apologized and it could have changed the dynamic completely.


No, I went out dancing because for two days prior, in other realms of my life I was having a difficult time. Truly down in the dumps, and he knew about this. Dancing, was one of those few things that makes me truly happy. He knows this. I have not danced in a very long time. It was not to incite anything in him, it was for me. I truly needed something to cheer me up, especially since he was busy with a friend. It was me trying to entertain myself, not a ploy to get his attention.

That is me, being completely honest with myself. If it was a ploy, trust me, I would not have told him. Gone home, told him what I had done, and told him how enjoyable it was etc. That was not what I did, I involved him every step of the way. I wanted him to come, I truly wanted to dance with him, because I never have and it was something I always told him I wanted to do with him. Hah, the thought had turned me on. As inappropriate it is to say that now, but that was the truth. It was not a game.

The relationship was not on the rocks, he was acting strange yes, but on the rocks. It was not. Please read again, I did not smother him. I kept asking him to let me be, he kept coming at me. I did not want to talk to him, I did not message him after I moved my belongings. I stuck to my words, he was the one to write me with many accusations of threats etc. Also are you certain you read correctly. He blew up right after the dancing incident all the way till I was thrown out, and after. I was silent, after having left his home. He kept pushing me, after multiple request on my part, to be left alone, to stop pushing, to let me move on. He did not respect that, I blew up, then he blocked me. I did not talk to him again after he unblocked me. It was utter silence on my part, so do kindly read again what I had written.

It was in the wee hours of morning, how was either one of us going to have our space ?

How would you feel if you had not your own home keys with you, and told to go home with any man ?


I had to return to his home, if I had my own home keys. Trust me, I would have left him alone. Therefore please, read again, why the dynamics happened the way it did. I am not painting myself a certain way, I was emotional too, it was an emotional upheaval but out of the two of us. Yes, I will unashamedly say I was more logical and the more intelligent one. He admits it, not in a sarcastic manner either because he was caught out in multiple lies.


You’re not being honest though because the relationship was on the rocks. You made three or four threads about issues in the last two weeks. Some advised to leave it alone but you pressed on and now you’re here.
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One thing you should never tell me is that I am not honest with myself. I have been very honest and direct within this thread. If I had fault, flaws, or something I could / should do in order to learn from this experience. I have stated so. If every argument within a relationship equated to a relationship on the rocks. That would mean every relationship in the world are on the rocks.

Yes, there were issues. Yes, there was an argument. Yes, communication was not at its best on his part. I do not deny any of that. However, that does not mean it was on the rocks. On the rocks, meant it was already done and dusted ... dead but merely awaiting for the burial.

I believe, this is the third thread. The first two thread were of the same topic but it was getting too long and dragged out. With all the different and generous contributions / feedback from the lovely DXPers here, I thought it best to create a new thread for the update. I chose to press on, frankly it could have turned out either way. Simply because it ended, you get to have your say and say, look how right I am. If I turned out the other way, you would not be here writing, I told you so. If I left it alone, it would have been as bad as if I pressed onwards. If it were to end, it were to end eventually. If it were to continue forward, it would have continued so.

Frankly, I have no regrets. I learned a few things about myself (which I need to improve on) from this experience and it allowed me to truly want to be alone from now onwards. As much pain as this experience caused me, which I did not deserve. Do not write it as if I brought this unto myself, I did not. Do not even dare say so. I still take away the positives from it, because there were good things to be had from this. Not from him, but things I had learned and realised within myself.
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Probably when your relationship is on the rocks, the best thing to do was not to go out dancing with other men. I read it from my perspective being that, you went out dancing because you felt scorned about his odd behaivor. If you were being completely honest with yourself, you can't say that there is no truth in that. Well that bit you in the butt. Aquarians won't play games like that, unless they have scorpio placements IMO.

There are few men out there who can be colder than an angry aquarius man. I have been on the receiving end multiple times, across many different relationship mediums lol. By a boyfriend, my father, and a friend. You need to give them space, a lot of space. But my experience with scorpios is that they will smother you during these times when they really care about you. I don't think he had ample time to cool off, you should have both exercised more self control. Especially you, as you paint yourself as the "logical" and more intelligent one here. You should have told him that you BOTH needed the space apart for awhile and stuck to your guns about it. His blocking you and unblocking you the next day, and you talking to him was not enough time for the dust to settle, hence why it blew up. He was very hurt and inflammatory, and you seemed to fuel the fires. I 100% think that if you gave him the space that he needed, he really would have came back and apologized and it could have changed the dynamic completely.


No, I went out dancing because for two days prior, in other realms of my life I was having a difficult time. Truly down in the dumps, and he knew about this. Dancing, was one of those few things that makes me truly happy. He knows this. I have not danced in a very long time. It was not to incite anything in him, it was for me. I truly needed something to cheer me up, especially since he was busy with a friend. It was me trying to entertain myself, not a ploy to get his attention.

That is me, being completely honest with myself. If it was a ploy, trust me, I would not have told him. Gone home, told him what I had done, and told him how enjoyable it was etc. That was not what I did, I involved him every step of the way. I wanted him to come, I truly wanted to dance with him, because I never have and it was something I always told him I wanted to do with him. Hah, the thought had turned me on. As inappropriate it is to say that now, but that was the truth. It was not a game.

The relationship was not on the rocks, he was acting strange yes, but on the rocks. It was not. Please read again, I did not smother him. I kept asking him to let me be, he kept coming at me. I did not want to talk to him, I did not message him after I moved my belongings. I stuck to my words, he was the one to write me with many accusations of threats etc. Also are you certain you read correctly. He blew up right after the dancing incident all the way till I was thrown out, and after. I was silent, after having left his home. He kept pushing me, after multiple request on my part, to be left alone, to stop pushing, to let me move on. He did not respect that, I blew up, then he blocked me. I did not talk to him again after he unblocked me. It was utter silence on my part, so do kindly read again what I had written.

It was in the wee hours of morning, how was either one of us going to have our space ?

How would you feel if you had not your own home keys with you, and told to go home with any man ?


I had to return to his home, if I had my own home keys. Trust me, I would have left him alone. Therefore please, read again, why the dynamics happened the way it did. I am not painting myself a certain way, I was emotional too, it was an emotional upheaval but out of the two of us. Yes, I will unashamedly say I was more logical and the more intelligent one. He admits it, not in a sarcastic manner either because he was caught out in multiple lies.


You’re not being honest though because the relationship was on the rocks. You made three or four threads about issues in the last two weeks. Some advised to leave it alone but you pressed on and now you’re here.


One thing you should never tell me is that I am not honest with myself. I have been very honest and direct within this thread. If I had fault, flaws, or something I could / should do in order to learn from this experience. I have stated so. If every argument within a relationship equated to a relationship on the rocks. That would mean every relationship in the world are on the rocks.

Yes, there were issues. Yes, there was an argument. Yes, communication was not at its best on his part. I do not deny any of that. However, that does not mean it was on the rocks. On the rocks, meant it was already done and dusted ... dead but merely awaiting for the burial.

I believe, this is the third thread. The first two thread were of the same topic but it was getting too long and dragged out. With all the different and generous contributions / feedback from the lovely DXPers here, I thought it best to create a new thread for the update. I chose to press on, frankly it could have turned out either way. Simply because it ended, you get to have your say and say, look how right I am. If I turned out the other way, you would not be here writing, I told you so. If I left it alone, it would have been as bad as if I pressed onwards. If it were to end, it were to end eventually. If it were to continue forward, it would have continued so.

Frankly, I have no regrets. I learned a few things about myself (which I need to improve on) from this experience and it allowed me to truly want to be alone from now onwards. As much pain as this experience caused me, which I did not deserve. Do not write it as if I brought this unto myself, I did not. Do not even dare say so. I still take away the positives from it, because there were good things to be had from this. Not from him, but things I had learned and realised within myself.
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I don’t think you’re being honest here but I’m sure you knew what was really going on.

This guy was a dick to you and I’m happy you walked away. I hope you feel better soon if you aren’t already. He’s so not worth it.
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Probably when your relationship is on the rocks, the best thing to do was not to go out dancing with other men. I read it from my perspective being that, you went out dancing because you felt scorned about his odd behaivor. If you were being completely honest with yourself, you can't say that there is no truth in that. Well that bit you in the butt. Aquarians won't play games like that, unless they have scorpio placements IMO.

There are few men out there who can be colder than an angry aquarius man. I have been on the receiving end multiple times, across many different relationship mediums lol. By a boyfriend, my father, and a friend. You need to give them space, a lot of space. But my experience with scorpios is that they will smother you during these times when they really care about you. I don't think he had ample time to cool off, you should have both exercised more self control. Especially you, as you paint yourself as the "logical" and more intelligent one here. You should have told him that you BOTH needed the space apart for awhile and stuck to your guns about it. His blocking you and unblocking you the next day, and you talking to him was not enough time for the dust to settle, hence why it blew up. He was very hurt and inflammatory, and you seemed to fuel the fires. I 100% think that if you gave him the space that he needed, he really would have came back and apologized and it could have changed the dynamic completely.


No, I went out dancing because for two days prior, in other realms of my life I was having a difficult time. Truly down in the dumps, and he knew about this. Dancing, was one of those few things that makes me truly happy. He knows this. I have not danced in a very long time. It was not to incite anything in him, it was for me. I truly needed something to cheer me up, especially since he was busy with a friend. It was me trying to entertain myself, not a ploy to get his attention.

That is me, being completely honest with myself. If it was a ploy, trust me, I would not have told him. Gone home, told him what I had done, and told him how enjoyable it was etc. That was not what I did, I involved him every step of the way. I wanted him to come, I truly wanted to dance with him, because I never have and it was something I always told him I wanted to do with him. Hah, the thought had turned me on. As inappropriate it is to say that now, but that was the truth. It was not a game.

The relationship was not on the rocks, he was acting strange yes, but on the rocks. It was not. Please read again, I did not smother him. I kept asking him to let me be, he kept coming at me. I did not want to talk to him, I did not message him after I moved my belongings. I stuck to my words, he was the one to write me with many accusations of threats etc. Also are you certain you read correctly. He blew up right after the dancing incident all the way till I was thrown out, and after. I was silent, after having left his home. He kept pushing me, after multiple request on my part, to be left alone, to stop pushing, to let me move on. He did not respect that, I blew up, then he blocked me. I did not talk to him again after he unblocked me. It was utter silence on my part, so do kindly read again what I had written.

It was in the wee hours of morning, how was either one of us going to have our space ?

How would you feel if you had not your own home keys with you, and told to go home with any man ?


I had to return to his home, if I had my own home keys. Trust me, I would have left him alone. Therefore please, read again, why the dynamics happened the way it did. I am not painting myself a certain way, I was emotional too, it was an emotional upheaval but out of the two of us. Yes, I will unashamedly say I was more logical and the more intelligent one. He admits it, not in a sarcastic manner either because he was caught out in multiple lies.


You’re not being honest though because the relationship was on the rocks. You made three or four threads about issues in the last two weeks. Some advised to leave it alone but you pressed on and now you’re here.


One thing you should never tell me is that I am not honest with myself. I have been very honest and direct within this thread. If I had fault, flaws, or something I could / should do in order to learn from this experience. I have stated so. If every argument within a relationship equated to a relationship on the rocks. That would mean every relationship in the world are on the rocks.

Yes, there were issues. Yes, there was an argument. Yes, communication was not at its best on his part. I do not deny any of that. However, that does not mean it was on the rocks. On the rocks, meant it was already done and dusted ... dead but merely awaiting for the burial.

I believe, this is the third thread. The first two thread were of the same topic but it was getting too long and dragged out. With all the different and generous contributions / feedback from the lovely DXPers here, I thought it best to create a new thread for the update. I chose to press on, frankly it could have turned out either way. Simply because it ended, you get to have your say and say, look how right I am. If I turned out the other way, you would not be here writing, I told you so. If I left it alone, it would have been as bad as if I pressed onwards. If it were to end, it were to end eventually. If it were to continue forward, it would have continued so.

Frankly, I have no regrets. I learned a few things about myself (which I need to improve on) from this experience and it allowed me to truly want to be alone from now onwards. As much pain as this experience caused me, which I did not deserve. Do not write it as if I brought this unto myself, I did not. Do not even dare say so. I still take away the positives from it, because there were good things to be had from this. Not from him, but things I had learned and realised within myself.


I don’t think you’re being honest here but I’m sure you knew what was really going on.

This guy was a dick to you and I’m happy you walked away. I hope you feel better soon if you aren’t already. He’s so not worth it.
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Did I have my doubts ?

Yes, I always did. As in every single thread when I said I never trusted him entirely so.

Did I know what was going on in his head ?

No, because he was always giving conflicted signals. Everything was always all over the place. One minute positive feedback, the next negative. On top of him, being rather poor in communications. It was rather difficult to judge. Although my intuition did have a nagging feeling, that I could not pinpoint.

Yes, I have my low moments but overall feeling better than I thought I would be. Thank you for saying so. Strangely enough, I do not miss him more so than the fact that I miss the idea of him. The memories haunt me less so than what we could have built. Perhaps, how it ended, given some of the things he had said. They really stabbed me deeply enough to the core that I could not possibly go back. I cannot go back to that woman who once loved him, whilst at the same time stand by his side. I will still love him, but from a far. As someone in my past.

After all, he made me an option therefore I will make him my history.

He did not choose to make me his everything, therefore I will make him my nothing.
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Probably when your relationship is on the rocks, the best thing to do was not to go out dancing with other men. I read it from my perspective being that, you went out dancing because you felt scorned about his odd behaivor. If you were being completely honest with yourself, you can't say that there is no truth in that. Well that bit you in the butt. Aquarians won't play games like that, unless they have scorpio placements IMO.

There are few men out there who can be colder than an angry aquarius man. I have been on the receiving end multiple times, across many different relationship mediums lol. By a boyfriend, my father, and a friend. You need to give them space, a lot of space. But my experience with scorpios is that they will smother you during these times when they really care about you. I don't think he had ample time to cool off, you should have both exercised more self control. Especially you, as you paint yourself as the "logical" and more intelligent one here. You should have told him that you BOTH needed the space apart for awhile and stuck to your guns about it. His blocking you and unblocking you the next day, and you talking to him was not enough time for the dust to settle, hence why it blew up. He was very hurt and inflammatory, and you seemed to fuel the fires. I 100% think that if you gave him the space that he needed, he really would have came back and apologized and it could have changed the dynamic completely.


No, I went out dancing because for two days prior, in other realms of my life I was having a difficult time. Truly down in the dumps, and he knew about this. Dancing, was one of those few things that makes me truly happy. He knows this. I have not danced in a very long time. It was not to incite anything in him, it was for me. I truly needed something to cheer me up, especially since he was busy with a friend. It was me trying to entertain myself, not a ploy to get his attention.

That is me, being completely honest with myself. If it was a ploy, trust me, I would not have told him. Gone home, told him what I had done, and told him how enjoyable it was etc. That was not what I did, I involved him every step of the way. I wanted him to come, I truly wanted to dance with him, because I never have and it was something I always told him I wanted to do with him. Hah, the thought had turned me on. As inappropriate it is to say that now, but that was the truth. It was not a game.

The relationship was not on the rocks, he was acting strange yes, but on the rocks. It was not. Please read again, I did not smother him. I kept asking him to let me be, he kept coming at me. I did not want to talk to him, I did not message him after I moved my belongings. I stuck to my words, he was the one to write me with many accusations of threats etc. Also are you certain you read correctly. He blew up right after the dancing incident all the way till I was thrown out, and after. I was silent, after having left his home. He kept pushing me, after multiple request on my part, to be left alone, to stop pushing, to let me move on. He did not respect that, I blew up, then he blocked me. I did not talk to him again after he unblocked me. It was utter silence on my part, so do kindly read again what I had written.

It was in the wee hours of morning, how was either one of us going to have our space ?

How would you feel if you had not your own home keys with you, and told to go home with any man ?


I had to return to his home, if I had my own home keys. Trust me, I would have left him alone. Therefore please, read again, why the dynamics happened the way it did. I am not painting myself a certain way, I was emotional too, it was an emotional upheaval but out of the two of us. Yes, I will unashamedly say I was more logical and the more intelligent one. He admits it, not in a sarcastic manner either because he was caught out in multiple lies.


You’re not being honest though because the relationship was on the rocks. You made three or four threads about issues in the last two weeks. Some advised to leave it alone but you pressed on and now you’re here.


One thing you should never tell me is that I am not honest with myself. I have been very honest and direct within this thread. If I had fault, flaws, or something I could / should do in order to learn from this experience. I have stated so. If every argument within a relationship equated to a relationship on the rocks. That would mean every relationship in the world are on the rocks.

Yes, there were issues. Yes, there was an argument. Yes, communication was not at its best on his part. I do not deny any of that. However, that does not mean it was on the rocks. On the rocks, meant it was already done and dusted ... dead but merely awaiting for the burial.

I believe, this is the third thread. The first two thread were of the same topic but it was getting too long and dragged out. With all the different and generous contributions / feedback from the lovely DXPers here, I thought it best to create a new thread for the update. I chose to press on, frankly it could have turned out either way. Simply because it ended, you get to have your say and say, look how right I am. If I turned out the other way, you would not be here writing, I told you so. If I left it alone, it would have been as bad as if I pressed onwards. If it were to end, it were to end eventually. If it were to continue forward, it would have continued so.

Frankly, I have no regrets. I learned a few things about myself (which I need to improve on) from this experience and it allowed me to truly want to be alone from now onwards. As much pain as this experience caused me, which I did not deserve. Do not write it as if I brought this unto myself, I did not. Do not even dare say so. I still take away the positives from it, because there were good things to be had from this. Not from him, but things I had learned and realised within myself.

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I did not read it all but some of the things he did is so petty. And that has more to do with his moon I think. He's a pisces moon right? They get hurt easily and then become extremely petty. The men that is.




Yes @Timon, he has a Merman Moon. He is my second or third Merman Moon this year.

I am on a sabbatical away from them, for a while.

When they are at their best, it is exhilarating for a Water Sun Sign.

At their worst, it is pure hell.

I never thought them to be this sensitive, after all Merfolk are quite resilient in their own way.
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The behaviour halal was talking off happened to me twice with Aqua men....both were terrified of losing themselves in me, they did the hot and cold, push and pull thing, it's almost as though i had to go back to the second one for round two. The similarities in behaviour was astounding and enough to show me, I'd not go back for round three

I believe when we go back to the same sign, it is often life's way of presenting the same issues that we didn't deal with the first, second or even third time. This is why some people get stuck on the same sign......they get trapped in the same pattern of behaviour

Messy...


Damn. I hope all my issues have been addressed already with aquas so this third one is better 🤣


Hope so!

I stopped at two.....two Aquas and two Aries....



Been with 5 now in total 😂 all aquas hahaa
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Masochist

Lol 😁
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Today has been rough, unexpected memories of him would come rushing in. I am not trying to avoid them, nor push them away. Let them be as they are, and to grieve. If I were to suppress, it would be all the worse.

Though in hindsight, I think the sight of me being a sensual as I was in those dances, surprised him. He probably never saw that uninhibited, completely hair down, and wildly sensual side of me. It must have been downright shocking to him.

Also, the timeline of our first argument was in line with him receiving news from his older brother that he had broken up with his long term girlfriend / fiancée. That he will be taking his Ducati to travel, solo, all around Europe. The Water Bearer often felt the pressure that if his brother were to be wed soon, that he should step up his game as well. Now, that he sees his brother free again, he feels the pressure off his back. Perhaps, that in itself made him crave the need to explore again. Who knows.

You know how Water Bearer men are. When everyone around them are settling down, then they finally feel like it is time to settle down. Any time before that, they will march to their own rhythm. I have noticed this about many Water Bearer men around me.
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The behaviour halal was talking off happened to me twice with Aqua men....both were terrified of losing themselves in me, they did the hot and cold, push and pull thing, it's almost as though i had to go back to the second one for round two. The similarities in behaviour was astounding and enough to show me, I'd not go back for round three

I believe when we go back to the same sign, it is often life's way of presenting the same issues that we didn't deal with the first, second or even third time. This is why some people get stuck on the same sign......they get trapped in the same pattern of behaviour

Messy...


Damn. I hope all my issues have been addressed already with aquas so this third one is better 🤣


Hope so!

I stopped at two.....two Aquas and two Aries....



Been with 5 now in total 😂 all aquas hahaa


Masochist

Lol 😁


I tried other signs but they just dont seem to stick. Hahahha after my aqua ex i had an aries suitor that i actually liked and just when i thought things were going well, poof! Ghosted me for a week. Then when i asked him whats going on bloody man said im not independent. I told him, its not that im not independent, hes just inconsistent. See, i never get inconsistencies like that with an aqua. Fast forward to few months after that, i met my aqua and decided its the sign for me. Lol
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You give me hope, perhaps one day I will be able to meet a loving yet masculine Ram or Water Bearer. One that will want me as much as I want him. Who will love and respect me, in the same way I will him, with kindness and care as well. 🙂
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The behaviour halal was talking off happened to me twice with Aqua men....both were terrified of losing themselves in me, they did the hot and cold, push and pull thing, it's almost as though i had to go back to the second one for round two. The similarities in behaviour was astounding and enough to show me, I'd not go back for round three

I believe when we go back to the same sign, it is often life's way of presenting the same issues that we didn't deal with the first, second or even third time. This is why some people get stuck on the same sign......they get trapped in the same pattern of behaviour

Messy...


Damn. I hope all my issues have been addressed already with aquas so this third one is better 🤣


Hope so!

I stopped at two.....two Aquas and two Aries....



Been with 5 now in total 😂 all aquas hahaa


Masochist

Lol 😁
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You and I were quite the Masochist as well, until we began to learn our lessons. 😆
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Probably when your relationship is on the rocks, the best thing to do was not to go out dancing with other men. I read it from my perspective being that, you went out dancing because you felt scorned about his odd behaivor. If you were being completely honest with yourself, you can't say that there is no truth in that. Well that bit you in the butt. Aquarians won't play games like that, unless they have scorpio placements IMO.

There are few men out there who can be colder than an angry aquarius man. I have been on the receiving end multiple times, across many different relationship mediums lol. By a boyfriend, my father, and a friend. You need to give them space, a lot of space. But my experience with scorpios is that they will smother you during these times when they really care about you. I don't think he had ample time to cool off, you should have both exercised more self control. Especially you, as you paint yourself as the "logical" and more intelligent one here. You should have told him that you BOTH needed the space apart for awhile and stuck to your guns about it. His blocking you and unblocking you the next day, and you talking to him was not enough time for the dust to settle, hence why it blew up. He was very hurt and inflammatory, and you seemed to fuel the fires. I 100% think that if you gave him the space that he needed, he really would have came back and apologized and it could have changed the dynamic completely.


No, I went out dancing because for two days prior, in other realms of my life I was having a difficult time. Truly down in the dumps, and he knew about this. Dancing, was one of those few things that makes me truly happy. He knows this. I have not danced in a very long time. It was not to incite anything in him, it was for me. I truly needed something to cheer me up, especially since he was busy with a friend. It was me trying to entertain myself, not a ploy to get his attention.

That is me, being completely honest with myself. If it was a ploy, trust me, I would not have told him. Gone home, told him what I had done, and told him how enjoyable it was etc. That was not what I did, I involved him every step of the way. I wanted him to come, I truly wanted to dance with him, because I never have and it was something I always told him I wanted to do with him. Hah, the thought had turned me on. As inappropriate it is to say that now, but that was the truth. It was not a game.

The relationship was not on the rocks, he was acting strange yes, but on the rocks. It was not. Please read again, I did not smother him. I kept asking him to let me be, he kept coming at me. I did not want to talk to him, I did not message him after I moved my belongings. I stuck to my words, he was the one to write me with many accusations of threats etc. Also are you certain you read correctly. He blew up right after the dancing incident all the way till I was thrown out, and after. I was silent, after having left his home. He kept pushing me, after multiple request on my part, to be left alone, to stop pushing, to let me move on. He did not respect that, I blew up, then he blocked me. I did not talk to him again after he unblocked me. It was utter silence on my part, so do kindly read again what I had written.

It was in the wee hours of morning, how was either one of us going to have our space ?

How would you feel if you had not your own home keys with you, and told to go home with any man ?


I had to return to his home, if I had my own home keys. Trust me, I would have left him alone. Therefore please, read again, why the dynamics happened the way it did. I am not painting myself a certain way, I was emotional too, it was an emotional upheaval but out of the two of us. Yes, I will unashamedly say I was more logical and the more intelligent one. He admits it, not in a sarcastic manner either because he was caught out in multiple lies.


You’re not being honest though because the relationship was on the rocks. You made three or four threads about issues in the last two weeks. Some advised to leave it alone but you pressed on and now you’re here.


One thing you should never tell me is that I am not honest with myself. I have been very honest and direct within this thread. If I had fault, flaws, or something I could / should do in order to learn from this experience. I have stated so. If every argument within a relationship equated to a relationship on the rocks. That would mean every relationship in the world are on the rocks.

Yes, there were issues. Yes, there was an argument. Yes, communication was not at its best on his part. I do not deny any of that. However, that does not mean it was on the rocks. On the rocks, meant it was already done and dusted ... dead but merely awaiting for the burial.

I believe, this is the third thread. The first two thread were of the same topic but it was getting too long and dragged out. With all the different and generous contributions / feedback from the lovely DXPers here, I thought it best to create a new thread for the update. I chose to press on, frankly it could have turned out either way. Simply because it ended, you get to have your say and say, look how right I am. If I turned out the other way, you would not be here writing, I told you so. If I left it alone, it would have been as bad as if I pressed onwards. If it were to end, it were to end eventually. If it were to continue forward, it would have continued so.

Frankly, I have no regrets. I learned a few things about myself (which I need to improve on) from this experience and it allowed me to truly want to be alone from now onwards. As much pain as this experience caused me, which I did not deserve. Do not write it as if I brought this unto myself, I did not. Do not even dare say so. I still take away the positives from it, because there were good things to be had from this. Not from him, but things I had learned and realised within myself.

Would love to have a friend like you to talk on my breaks


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I did not read it all but some of the things he did is so petty. And that has more to do with his moon I think. He's a pisces moon right? They get hurt easily and then become extremely petty. The men that is.





Yes @Timon, he has a Merman Moon. He is my second or third Merman Moon this year.

I am on a sabbatical away from them, for a while.

When they are at their best, it is exhilarating for a Water Sun Sign.

At their worst, it is pure hell.

I never thought them to be this sensitive, after all Merfolk are quite resilient in their own way.


Extremely sensitive in that they get hurt easily and then retaliate by being petty and immature.
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The behaviour halal was talking off happened to me twice with Aqua men....both were terrified of losing themselves in me, they did the hot and cold, push and pull thing, it's almost as though i had to go back to the second one for round two. The similarities in behaviour was astounding and enough to show me, I'd not go back for round three

I believe when we go back to the same sign, it is often life's way of presenting the same issues that we didn't deal with the first, second or even third time. This is why some people get stuck on the same sign......they get trapped in the same pattern of behaviour

Messy...


Damn. I hope all my issues have been addressed already with aquas so this third one is better 🤣


Hope so!

I stopped at two.....two Aquas and two Aries....



Been with 5 now in total 😂 all aquas hahaa


Masochist

Lol 😁


You and I were quite the Masochist as well, until we began to learn our lessons. 😆
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Totally. I've been non masochistic for over 5 years now and counting 😄
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The behaviour halal was talking off happened to me twice with Aqua men....both were terrified of losing themselves in me, they did the hot and cold, push and pull thing, it's almost as though i had to go back to the second one for round two. The similarities in behaviour was astounding and enough to show me, I'd not go back for round three

I believe when we go back to the same sign, it is often life's way of presenting the same issues that we didn't deal with the first, second or even third time. This is why some people get stuck on the same sign......they get trapped in the same pattern of behaviour

Messy...


Damn. I hope all my issues have been addressed already with aquas so this third one is better 🤣


Hope so!

I stopped at two.....two Aquas and two Aries....



Been with 5 now in total 😂 all aquas hahaa


Masochist

Lol 😁


You and I were quite the Masochist as well, until we began to learn our lessons. 😆


Totally. I've been non masochistic for over 5 years now and counting 😄
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Well stars, one thing I have learned about myself is that I definitely know how to be in a relationship or a connection. Now, to learn how to be single, and thrive at it. That will be new, I have not been truly single with no connections at all in years. Though, I am certain I will fall into the routine of it very soon. So much to do, so much to discover.

Taking it one step at a time, the first step is to not let the memories of the Water Bearer over take me every time they rush by. Also, to learn to say no to any potential men. Be firm about it, and choose to build friendships with them instead if they are of that caliber. No relationships, on a sabbatical away from making a man, a SO. 😆
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I think you dodged a bullet here. He couldn't handle you or the gravity of the situation so he guilted and used petty ploys to sabotage the relationship. One of the first things I notice about people is how they react when there's a little pressure on them. Will they think of themselves first or fold when the façade is no longer there? True colors are shown when adversity reveals character. You don't want someone like that to rely on in the long run. Scorpio women generally have no shortage of suitors so I'm sure there's something right around the corner for you :]
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I think you dodged a bullet here. He couldn't handle you or the gravity of the situation so he guilted and used petty ploys to sabotage the relationship. One of the first things I notice about people is how they react when there's a little pressure on them. Will they think of themselves first or fold when the façade is no longer there? True colors are shown when adversity reveals character. You don't want someone like that to rely on in the long run. Scorpio women generally have no shortage of suitors so I'm sure there's something right around the corner for you :]


Yes, which was why I gave him a second chance. That was what I was waiting for, for his true colours to show, and it did.

Ah, it still hurts and pains me in how it ended but no regrets. I truly loved him you know, but if he does not want it, why force it. He did not choose to make me his everything, so now he will be my nothing. I lost but I also gained. He got his freedom but so have I. However, now I took back my dignity. Whilst, he has no woman to care for him as I once did. Focusing on what I lost would drive me insane, therefore focusing on what I have gained keeps me focused. After all, there are those who survived divorce, and far worse betrayals than I have. They all survived, so will I.

Perhaps @Nightcap-, I should give up on all these Rams and Water Bearers. Find myself a nice Goat, and be done with it. 😆

Though in all seriousness, being single and alone is probably for the best, to heal.
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Yes, they're this vindictive/nasty. Especially Aqua women.


Hey now, that really depends on the maturity level of the individual, their mental state, self awareness, and how they let their experiences shape them. The aqua ladies I know are nothing of the sort. In fact they're quite the opposite! 😍

Also ScorpioLady I'm sorry to hear how things happened for you. But I agree with others that you're better off this way. That aqua just had too many demons and they prevailed. And yeah maybe he'll progress as a person in the future but it's not fair that you have to take the abuse and wait around.

Besides regardless of signs any guy that attempts to kick you out of a place where you've both been staying and playing games and withholding your personal belongings is just not a good guy. Real dick move.
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I am not sure. Aries is quincunx to Scorpio so we end up totally misunderstanding each other and Aqua is scared....scared?....oh i meant to type squared lol, so often a source of tension between the two signs

I love stuff about both signs, but not sure if those two signs especially if dominant in that area are particularly good for water sign women, unless of course they have lots of uranus aspects in the natal themselves?

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Posted by rejuvenatedheart

Yes, they're this vindictive/nasty. Especially Aqua women.


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That's a long post, but all I'm gonna say is underneath every Aqua is an asshole hidden.
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omg



i've been here for YEARS and i've never said any bad things about ur signs

always good!!!

u must have had bad expereinces.



also @aqua09, i've only seen u say nice things about leo lol

i wonder if you are leo underneath ;p

--suspect- LOL
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Yes, they're this vindictive/nasty. Especially Aqua women.


Posted by aquarius09

That's a long post, but all I'm gonna say is underneath every Aqua is an asshole hidden.


omg



i've been here for YEARS and i've never said any bad things about ur signs

always good!!!

u must have had bad expereinces.



also @aqua09, i've only seen u say nice things about leo lol

i wonder if you are leo underneath ;p

--suspect- LOL


It's just a general thing lady, lol nothing personal. Also based on my own observations.
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That's a long post, but all I'm gonna say is underneath every Aqua is an asshole hidden.


Well @aquarius09, I know every Water Bearer has an 'asshole' but I never knew every Water Bearer is an 'asshole' hidden because quite frankly I have known many that were quite genuine, kind, caring, if not even sweet.
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I am very genuine, kind, caring, sweet (insert many good traits), but I’m also an asshole or come across as one for people looking to get validated for their lousy no-good behaviour. Depends on who you ask. I’m gonna go up and read that post.

I find most people especially water and fire dominants get so stuck in their emotions or ego that they can’t see things clearly and when an Aqua flips a switch, they’re baffled and we become the asshole by default. Let me go read your post.
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Okay, I read it and he sounds unhinged, insecure and immature. Emphasis on insecure though. Must be a water or fire based Aqua. I usually see this type of uncontrollable insecurity and vindictiveness come from the water based ones. List his placements.

My bro is an Aqua with moon and venus in Pisces and he behaves like this. He’s very controlling and insecure. A former friend of mine who I disposed overnight for having an uncontrollable vicious tantrum like your guy did on you was also Aqua with moon in Pisces and venus and mars in Aries. She was batshit crazy but on the surface she was composed like an aqua sun, which is why I even bothered to befriend her.
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Though in hindsight, I think the sight of me being a sensual as I was in those dances, surprised him. He probably never saw that uninhibited, completely hair down, and wildly sensual side of me. It must have been downright shocking to him.



This stood out to me as it's something I've struggled with, finding a man I can truly let my hair down with... Only fully once, he is also a mars in scorpio. Why is this? Why couldn't you be your complete self with the aqua?
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Posted by aquarius09

Okay, I read it and he sounds unhinged, insecure and immature. Emphasis on insecure though. Must be a water or fire based Aqua. I usually see this type of uncontrollable insecurity and vindictiveness come from the water based ones. List his placements.

My bro is an Aqua with moon and venus in Pisces and he behaves like this. He’s very controlling and insecure. A former friend of mine who I disposed overnight for having an uncontrollable vicious tantrum like your guy did on you was also Aqua with moon in Pisces and venus and mars in Aries. She was batshit crazy but on the surface she was composed like an aqua sun, which is why I even bothered to befriend her.




He is a -

Water Bearer Sun

Merman Moon (probably Ram Moon)

Goat Mercury

Goat Venus

Goat Mars

Ironically @aquarius09, he was very passive aggressive in his way of controlling everything around him, including me. Yet, he himself hates being controlled in any way, even when he was not being controlled at all. The double standards were rife. He would never admitting to being jealous or controlling of another. On the surface, he would seem coolly detached, if not rational. However, if you know how to read him, you know it is a facade. He both hated and loved the fact that I could see through. It both brought him relief yet at the same time cause him to resent me, that I could see through it.
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Posted by MyStarsShine

Posted by aquarius09

Okay, I read it and he sounds unhinged. Must be a water or fire based Aqua. I usually see this time of uncontrollable emotions and vindictiveness come from the water based ones. List his placements.


I agree

The Aqua Pisces guys I've known have been unhinged .... detached v emotionally sensitive...
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The problem with that combination. They want all of your emotionally sensitive side, they crave it. Yet, in return, they have nothing to give. If you so much as desire reciprocation, they deem you demanding or needy. When in fact, their needs drain the living spirit out of you. Leeches.
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Posted by Jules-ll

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Though in hindsight, I think the sight of me being a sensual as I was in those dances, surprised him. He probably never saw that uninhibited, completely hair down, and wildly sensual side of me. It must have been downright shocking to him.



This stood out to me as it's something I've struggled with, finding a man I can truly let my hair down with... Only fully once, he is also a mars in scorpio. Why is this? Why couldn't you be your complete self with the aqua?
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Jules, simply because I did not fully trust him.

He had lied to me far too many a times, and still refused to face me with open honesty.

Also because I was aware that he struggled with insecurity and self confidence issues. More of my time was spent navigating our interactions in such a way that he feels good about himself, rather than me exuding my full personality. If I were, I believe it would intimidate him. At worst, my full personality might overpower him and that would definitely hit on his pride and ego. That awareness was what caused me to tame down parts of who I was and am.

He wanted to be the man, in our relationship. I let him be, except he knew, somewhere deep inside him that I was the stronger, much more confident, if not dominant one. Yet, I did not want to create an imbalance or fight that dynamic. I was as happy being the woman, if he could step up and be the man. Which he was not equipped for. Perhaps, if he did work on himself and gathered more self esteem / confidence. He would be able to. That takes time, courage, and effort.

Currently, or at least when I had left him, he was far too lazy to do so. Now, I would not know. Considering, he did write me, as you know in my latest thread. If he now finally found a reason to stay in this city, perhaps he is beginning to take those first steps. Until then, I will have to try to focus on myself, and less on him. It is a daily struggle, I still find my mind wandering to him at times. Reflecting on all those dashed dreams, only to come back to reality and remind myself that my future is still within my own hands, with or without him.
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I’m not even done reading this story but it sounds soooooo Capricorn


Why would you say so ? Do tell.

Although MoonshineLeo, he does have quite a few Goat placements.
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Because i dated a Capricorn and he was like this. Would make ridiculous accusations, treated me like crap, say horrible things to me, didn’t trust you, would think you’re sleeping around?, horrible temper especially late at night... goes back and forth on his word. The DRAMA. Reading this triggers me 😂