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He is seeing someone and has been for months on the quiet. She got out of a marriage and less than 6 months they are together..he was seeing someone else at the same time prior and that person asked and was told nothing was going on

My Sag friend does not give too hoots about the context of the lies. It's the fact that he lied to her face knowing she hates liars and so does he and she has proof he is lying.

I can see where u are coming from but I think initially it was the fact that he was doing this to the first woman because she is good friends with her. The second woman was friends with the Sag ages ago but the Sag broke contact because she betrayed her trust and I think she feels the guy is blinded by this second woman and her character and that she is bad news.

Perhaps he knew if he let the Sag know what was going on, she would break friendship with him because of her ability to break trust in friends but now the friendship is gone purely because of the extent of the lies.



Truth be told...

I was the first woman but now have removed myself intimately.


So now that we have all the info it seems pretty obvious. Sag is mad on your behalf that he started seeing someone else and didn't give you the gf crown. She also is mad he's seeing this other woman whom she, personally, doesn't like. She sounds like a controlling ass bitch. Good riddance. Looks like their 2 year friendship wasn't that strong after all.

And you say they (2nd woman and Aqua) were dating while you were still involved with him because you know they had play dates together. You don't ACTUALLY know they were dating at that time. Its entirely likely that it started off as playdates for their kids, they found they had a connection...and it evolved from there.

You kinda fucked up by venting to your Sag friend and putting this in her head. Makes sense you feel like you need to fix their friendship seeing as how you helped drive the wedge. I get it. You were mad that another woman was moving in on your man. Only he was never your man...he was fwb.

Moral of the story? Don't fuck your friends.
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So now that we have all the info it seems pretty obvious. Sag is mad on your behalf that he started seeing someone else and didn't give you the gf crown. She also is mad he's seeing this other woman whom she, personally, doesn't like.She sounds like a controlling ass bitch. Good riddance. Looks like their 2 year friendship wasn't that strong after all.



Moral of the story? Don't fuck your friends.
This still doesn't make sense. I think the sag was fucking him on the under too. Why would the Sag be that upset over the other women, we don't care that much about past friendships unless they were stepping on our toes.

Aquas sly ass has all of them looped up with his dipping stick 😆
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So now that we have all the info it seems pretty obvious. Sag is mad on your behalf that he started seeing someone else and didn't give you the gf crown. She also is mad he's seeing this other woman whom she, personally, doesn't like.She sounds like a controlling ass bitch. Good riddance. Looks like their 2 year friendship wasn't that strong after all.



Moral of the story? Don't fuck your friends.
This still doesn't make sense. I think the sag was fucking him on the under too. Why would the Sag be that upset over the other women, we don't care that much about past friendships unless they were stepping on our toes.

Aquas sly ass has all of them looped up with his dipping stick 😆
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Man idk. Maybe she wanted a piece and is mad he's giving it to everyone but her...
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So now that we have all the info it seems pretty obvious. Sag is mad on your behalf that he started seeing someone else and didn't give you the gf crown. She also is mad he's seeing this other woman whom she, personally, doesn't like.She sounds like a controlling ass bitch. Good riddance. Looks like their 2 year friendship wasn't that strong after all.



Moral of the story? Don't fuck your friends.
This still doesn't make sense. I think the sag was fucking him on the under too. Why would the Sag be that upset over the other women, we don't care that much about past friendships unless they were stepping on our toes.

Aquas sly ass has all of them looped up with his dipping stick 😆
Man idk. Maybe she wanted a piece and is mad he's giving it to everyone but her...
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That friendly Aqua man holding out? Maybe lol A Sag will lie about stuff to save face and not hurt her friend. That's the only reason I said that. This whole situation is a mess and now that they all found out, the Aqua is probably gonna get a new group to do lol It's too messy.
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Hmmmm. I'm a Sag, so I will just voice my opinion. Why do you guys care what's going on in his love life?

It's no ones business but his own. Unless he's having sex with one of you and playing you, you shouldn't be too involved in what he's doing. He;s a grown man and the women involved will figure out what they want/ need from him and go from there. He won't be able to keep up the lie for long.

You guys are just 2 friends that should be accepting him as he is, not where he puts his dick at. That's his to worry about. If he's lying to you, it just means he doesn't want you in his business. He's gonna do what he wants and doesn't need to hear grief about it from his 2 best friends. He's avoiding the drama of it all.

Are you guys his friend or the 2 women that he's seeing? The women will figure out what's going on, they always do. It will be your choice whether you want to lose a friend over his private matters.
Truth be told...

I was the first woman but now have removed myself intimately. The Sag is not the other.


Thought so, you need to butt out.

Sorry I know I'm harsh, but really for your sake, I would stay uninvolved.
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Ok. Like I was saying.i no longer care what it's about. When u ask someone over and over the same question and they deny it but cannot bet that answer on their child's life, they are treating me with no respect because they are not being honest and assume we are Too stupid to know otherwise and believe the bs.
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He is seeing someone and has been for months on the quiet. She got out of a marriage and less than 6 months they are together..he was seeing someone else at the same time prior and that person asked and was told nothing was going on

My Sag friend does not give too hoots about the context of the lies. It's the fact that he lied to her face knowing she hates liars and so does he and she has proof he is lying.

I can see where u are coming from but I think initially it was the fact that he was doing this to the first woman because she is good friends with her. The second woman was friends with the Sag ages ago but the Sag broke contact because she betrayed her trust and I think she feels the guy is blinded by this second woman and her character and that she is bad news.

Perhaps he knew if he let the Sag know what was going on, she would break friendship with him because of her ability to break trust in friends but now the friendship is gone purely because of the extent of the lies.



Truth be told...

I was the first woman but now have removed myself intimately.


So now that we have all the info it seems pretty obvious. Sag is mad on your behalf that he started seeing someone else and didn't give you the gf crown. She also is mad he's seeing this other woman whom she, personally, doesn't like. She sounds like a controlling ass bitch. Good riddance. Looks like their 2 year friendship wasn't that strong after all.

And you say they (2nd woman and Aqua) were dating while you were still involved with him because you know they had play dates together. You don't ACTUALLY know they were dating at that time. Its entirely likely that it started off as playdates for their kids, they found they had a connection...and it evolved from there.

You kinda fucked up by venting to your Sag friend and putting this in her head. Makes sense you feel like you need to fix their friendship seeing as how you helped drive the wedge. I get it. You were mad that another woman was moving in on your man. Only he was never your man...he was fwb.

Moral of the story? Don't fuck your friends.
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Ok. A secret is a secret and if the don't want to tell u what's going on fine!!

When u ask someone a direct question to their face to which they give a bs answer - that's lying!!

I'm not stupid but lying to my face is treating me like an idiot. For the importance I was told I was to him, lying shows u have not enough respect for someone to be honest to them.
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He is seeing someone and has been for months on the quiet. She got out of a marriage and less than 6 months they are together..he was seeing someone else at the same time prior and that person asked and was told nothing was going on

My Sag friend does not give too hoots about the context of the lies. It's the fact that he lied to her face knowing she hates liars and so does he and she has proof he is lying.

I can see where u are coming from but I think initially it was the fact that he was doing this to the first woman because she is good friends with her. The second woman was friends with the Sag ages ago but the Sag broke contact because she betrayed her trust and I think she feels the guy is blinded by this second woman and her character and that she is bad news.

Perhaps he knew if he let the Sag know what was going on, she would break friendship with him because of her ability to break trust in friends but now the friendship is gone purely because of the extent of the lies.



Truth be told...

I was the first woman but now have removed myself intimately.


So now that we have all the info it seems pretty obvious. Sag is mad on your behalf that he started seeing someone else and didn't give you the gf crown. She also is mad he's seeing this other woman whom she, personally, doesn't like. She sounds like a controlling ass bitch. Good riddance. Looks like their 2 year friendship wasn't that strong after all.

And you say they (2nd woman and Aqua) were dating while you were still involved with him because you know they had play dates together. You don't ACTUALLY know they were dating at that time. Its entirely likely that it started off as playdates for their kids, they found they had a connection...and it evolved from there.

You kinda fucked up by venting to your Sag friend and putting this in her head. Makes sense you feel like you need to fix their friendship seeing as how you helped drive the wedge. I get it. You were mad that another woman was moving in on your man. Only he was never your man...he was fwb.

Moral of the story? Don't fuck your friends.
Ok. A secret is a secret and if the don't want to tell u what's going on fine!!

When u ask someone a direct question to their face to which they give a bs answer - that's lying!!

I'm not stupid but lying to my face is treating me like an idiot. For the importance I was told I was to him, lying shows u have not enough respect for someone to be honest to them.

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Just casually ask Aqua if he’s been fuccing the Sag

Give him one of those casual “Oh, so you’ve been sleeping with Sag too, then?” And see what he says. He probably will tell the truth if he thinks you already know.

But he will probably cut all of you guys if there are issues. He’s just trying to fucc in peace.

#Messy
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He is seeing someone and has been for months on the quiet. She got out of a marriage and less than 6 months they are together..he was seeing someone else at the same time prior and that person asked and was told nothing was going on

My Sag friend does not give too hoots about the context of the lies. It's the fact that he lied to her face knowing she hates liars and so does he and she has proof he is lying.

I can see where u are coming from but I think initially it was the fact that he was doing this to the first woman because she is good friends with her. The second woman was friends with the Sag ages ago but the Sag broke contact because she betrayed her trust and I think she feels the guy is blinded by this second woman and her character and that she is bad news.

Perhaps he knew if he let the Sag know what was going on, she would break friendship with him because of her ability to break trust in friends but now the friendship is gone purely because of the extent of the lies.



Truth be told...

I was the first woman but now have removed myself intimately.


So now that we have all the info it seems pretty obvious. Sag is mad on your behalf that he started seeing someone else and didn't give you the gf crown. She also is mad he's seeing this other woman whom she, personally, doesn't like. She sounds like a controlling ass bitch. Good riddance. Looks like their 2 year friendship wasn't that strong after all.

And you say they (2nd woman and Aqua) were dating while you were still involved with him because you know they had play dates together. You don't ACTUALLY know they were dating at that time. Its entirely likely that it started off as playdates for their kids, they found they had a connection...and it evolved from there.

You kinda fucked up by venting to your Sag friend and putting this in her head. Makes sense you feel like you need to fix their friendship seeing as how you helped drive the wedge. I get it. You were mad that another woman was moving in on your man. Only he was never your man...he was fwb.

Moral of the story? Don't fuck your friends.
Ok. A secret is a secret and if the don't want to tell u what's going on fine!!

When u ask someone a direct question to their face to which they give a bs answer - that's lying!!

I'm not stupid but lying to my face is treating me like an idiot. For the importance I was told I was to him, lying shows u have not enough respect for someone to be honest to them.


Just casually ask Aqua if he’s been fuccing the Sag

Give him one of those casual “Oh, so you’ve been sleeping with Sag too, then?” And see what he says. He probably will tell the truth if he thinks you already know.

But he will probably cut all of you guys if there are issues. He’s just trying to fucc in peace.

#Messy

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Hmmmm. I'm a Sag, so I will just voice my opinion. Why do you guys care what's going on in his love life?

It's no ones business but his own. Unless he's having sex with one of you and playing you, you shouldn't be too involved in what he's doing. He;s a grown man and the women involved will figure out what they want/ need from him and go from there. He won't be able to keep up the lie for long.

You guys are just 2 friends that should be accepting him as he is, not where he puts his dick at. That's his to worry about. If he's lying to you, it just means he doesn't want you in his business. He's gonna do what he wants and doesn't need to hear grief about it from his 2 best friends. He's avoiding the drama of it all.

Are you guys his friend or the 2 women that he's seeing? The women will figure out what's going on, they always do. It will be your choice whether you want to lose a friend over his private matters.
Truth be told...

I was the first woman but now have removed myself intimately. The Sag is not the other.


Thought so, you need to butt out.

Sorry I know I'm harsh, but really for your sake, I would stay uninvolved.
Ok. Like I was saying.i no longer care what it's about. When u ask someone over and over the same question and they deny it but cannot bet that answer on their child's life, they are treating me with no respect because they are not being honest and assume we are Too stupid to know otherwise and believe the bs.
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Here's the thing, he owes you nothing. You are a former fwb from what you have said in this thread, of course he isn't going to tell you because again he doesn't NEED to tell you. You are talking about respect etc,, but you have zero respect for his privacy or boundaries. Do you not see the drama you are creating?

People will hold back because they don't want to hurt others or deal with drama.
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Hmmmm. I'm a Sag, so I will just voice my opinion. Why do you guys care what's going on in his love life?

It's no ones business but his own. Unless he's having sex with one of you and playing you, you shouldn't be too involved in what he's doing. He;s a grown man and the women involved will figure out what they want/ need from him and go from there. He won't be able to keep up the lie for long.

You guys are just 2 friends that should be accepting him as he is, not where he puts his dick at. That's his to worry about. If he's lying to you, it just means he doesn't want you in his business. He's gonna do what he wants and doesn't need to hear grief about it from his 2 best friends. He's avoiding the drama of it all.

Are you guys his friend or the 2 women that he's seeing? The women will figure out what's going on, they always do. It will be your choice whether you want to lose a friend over his private matters.
Truth be told...

I was the first woman but now have removed myself intimately. The Sag is not the other.


Thought so, you need to butt out.

Sorry I know I'm harsh, but really for your sake, I would stay uninvolved.
Ok. Like I was saying.i no longer care what it's about. When u ask someone over and over the same question and they deny it but cannot bet that answer on their child's life, they are treating me with no respect because they are not being honest and assume we are Too stupid to know otherwise and believe the bs.
Here's the thing, he owes you nothing. You are a former fwb from what you have said in this thread, of course he isn't going to tell you because again he doesn't NEED to tell you. You are talking about respect etc,, but you have zero respect for his privacy or boundaries. Do you not see the drama you are creating?

People will hold back because they don't want to hurt others or deal with drama.

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Maybe you are right but I asked him that if he was seeing someone else that I would want to know and he said he would tell me.

At the moment I've had enough of everything and everyone. I don't give 2 f# $ % s anymore about what is going on. I'm not asking for sympathy or people to back my side. I just want opinions and I appreciate everyone's input.

I would never consider what I had with him just a fwb. Almost 2 years of seeing each and going away together. Sharing secrets. Being given false hope by him as to when he would come out and tell everyone about us. A decent amount of time that I feel deserves respect and honesty that's all.
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Hmmmm. I'm a Sag, so I will just voice my opinion. Why do you guys care what's going on in his love life?

It's no ones business but his own. Unless he's having sex with one of you and playing you, you shouldn't be too involved in what he's doing. He;s a grown man and the women involved will figure out what they want/ need from him and go from there. He won't be able to keep up the lie for long.

You guys are just 2 friends that should be accepting him as he is, not where he puts his dick at. That's his to worry about. If he's lying to you, it just means he doesn't want you in his business. He's gonna do what he wants and doesn't need to hear grief about it from his 2 best friends. He's avoiding the drama of it all.

Are you guys his friend or the 2 women that he's seeing? The women will figure out what's going on, they always do. It will be your choice whether you want to lose a friend over his private matters.
Truth be told...

I was the first woman but now have removed myself intimately. The Sag is not the other.


Thought so, you need to butt out.

Sorry I know I'm harsh, but really for your sake, I would stay uninvolved.
Ok. Like I was saying.i no longer care what it's about. When u ask someone over and over the same question and they deny it but cannot bet that answer on their child's life, they are treating me with no respect because they are not being honest and assume we are Too stupid to know otherwise and believe the bs.
Here's the thing, he owes you nothing. You are a former fwb from what you have said in this thread, of course he isn't going to tell you because again he doesn't NEED to tell you. You are talking about respect etc,, but you have zero respect for his privacy or boundaries. Do you not see the drama you are creating?

People will hold back because they don't want to hurt others or deal with drama.


Maybe you are right but I asked him that if he was seeing someone else that I would want to know and he said he would tell me.

At the moment I've had enough of everything and everyone. I don't give 2 f# $ % s anymore about what is going on. I'm not asking for sympathy or people to back my side. I just want opinions and I appreciate everyone's input.

I would never consider what I had with him just a fwb. Almost 2 years of seeing each and going away together. Sharing secrets. Being given false hope by him as to when he would come out and tell everyone about us. A decent amount of time that I feel deserves respect and honesty that's all.
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You do deserve better. I'm not sure what you gain continuing to be his friend other than a false sense of hope thats gonna prolong the hurt. Cut him off like your sag friend did.
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Hmmmm. I'm a Sag, so I will just voice my opinion. Why do you guys care what's going on in his love life?

It's no ones business but his own. Unless he's having sex with one of you and playing you, you shouldn't be too involved in what he's doing. He;s a grown man and the women involved will figure out what they want/ need from him and go from there. He won't be able to keep up the lie for long.

You guys are just 2 friends that should be accepting him as he is, not where he puts his dick at. That's his to worry about. If he's lying to you, it just means he doesn't want you in his business. He's gonna do what he wants and doesn't need to hear grief about it from his 2 best friends. He's avoiding the drama of it all.

Are you guys his friend or the 2 women that he's seeing? The women will figure out what's going on, they always do. It will be your choice whether you want to lose a friend over his private matters.
Truth be told...

I was the first woman but now have removed myself intimately. The Sag is not the other.


Thought so, you need to butt out.

Sorry I know I'm harsh, but really for your sake, I would stay uninvolved.
Ok. Like I was saying.i no longer care what it's about. When u ask someone over and over the same question and they deny it but cannot bet that answer on their child's life, they are treating me with no respect because they are not being honest and assume we are Too stupid to know otherwise and believe the bs.
Here's the thing, he owes you nothing. You are a former fwb from what you have said in this thread, of course he isn't going to tell you because again he doesn't NEED to tell you. You are talking about respect etc,, but you have zero respect for his privacy or boundaries. Do you not see the drama you are creating?

People will hold back because they don't want to hurt others or deal with drama.


Maybe you are right but I asked him that if he was seeing someone else that I would want to know and he said he would tell me.

At the moment I've had enough of everything and everyone. I don't give 2 f# $ % s anymore about what is going on. I'm not asking for sympathy or people to back my side. I just want opinions and I appreciate everyone's input.

I would never consider what I had with him just a fwb. Almost 2 years of seeing each and going away together. Sharing secrets. Being given false hope by him as to when he would come out and tell everyone about us. A decent amount of time that I feel deserves respect and honesty that's all.
You do deserve better. I'm not sure what you gain continuing to be his friend other than a false sense of hope thats gonna prolong the hurt. Cut him off like your sag friend did.
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I know that's what I need to do...we are just friends but my heart is still with him and I know either way (whether I stop talking to him or whether I stay friends) it will hurt and he said to me if I disappeared, he would be devo (and he said this with tears in his eyes)..

Thank you..i need to really consider what is best for me at the end of the day..
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Hmmmm. I'm a Sag, so I will just voice my opinion. Why do you guys care what's going on in his love life?

It's no ones business but his own. Unless he's having sex with one of you and playing you, you shouldn't be too involved in what he's doing. He;s a grown man and the women involved will figure out what they want/ need from him and go from there. He won't be able to keep up the lie for long.

You guys are just 2 friends that should be accepting him as he is, not where he puts his dick at. That's his to worry about. If he's lying to you, it just means he doesn't want you in his business. He's gonna do what he wants and doesn't need to hear grief about it from his 2 best friends. He's avoiding the drama of it all.

Are you guys his friend or the 2 women that he's seeing? The women will figure out what's going on, they always do. It will be your choice whether you want to lose a friend over his private matters.
Truth be told...

I was the first woman but now have removed myself intimately. The Sag is not the other.


Thought so, you need to butt out.

Sorry I know I'm harsh, but really for your sake, I would stay uninvolved.
Ok. Like I was saying.i no longer care what it's about. When u ask someone over and over the same question and they deny it but cannot bet that answer on their child's life, they are treating me with no respect because they are not being honest and assume we are Too stupid to know otherwise and believe the bs.
Here's the thing, he owes you nothing. You are a former fwb from what you have said in this thread, of course he isn't going to tell you because again he doesn't NEED to tell you. You are talking about respect etc,, but you have zero respect for his privacy or boundaries. Do you not see the drama you are creating?

People will hold back because they don't want to hurt others or deal with drama.


Maybe you are right but I asked him that if he was seeing someone else that I would want to know and he said he would tell me.

At the moment I've had enough of everything and everyone. I don't give 2 f# $ % s anymore about what is going on. I'm not asking for sympathy or people to back my side. I just want opinions and I appreciate everyone's input.

I would never consider what I had with him just a fwb. Almost 2 years of seeing each and going away together. Sharing secrets. Being given false hope by him as to when he would come out and tell everyone about us. A decent amount of time that I feel deserves respect and honesty that's all.
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Sigh.

This will probably be hard for you to accept - you chose to believe him. Just like you chose to continue being his friend after all that has happened.

Out of curiosity, did you have prior hopes of your fwb developing into something more?

May as well forget about reconciling him with the Sag and start icing him outo yourself.
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Hmmmm. I'm a Sag, so I will just voice my opinion. Why do you guys care what's going on in his love life?

It's no ones business but his own. Unless he's having sex with one of you and playing you, you shouldn't be too involved in what he's doing. He;s a grown man and the women involved will figure out what they want/ need from him and go from there. He won't be able to keep up the lie for long.

You guys are just 2 friends that should be accepting him as he is, not where he puts his dick at. That's his to worry about. If he's lying to you, it just means he doesn't want you in his business. He's gonna do what he wants and doesn't need to hear grief about it from his 2 best friends. He's avoiding the drama of it all.

Are you guys his friend or the 2 women that he's seeing? The women will figure out what's going on, they always do. It will be your choice whether you want to lose a friend over his private matters.
Truth be told...

I was the first woman but now have removed myself intimately. The Sag is not the other.


Thought so, you need to butt out.

Sorry I know I'm harsh, but really for your sake, I would stay uninvolved.
Ok. Like I was saying.i no longer care what it's about. When u ask someone over and over the same question and they deny it but cannot bet that answer on their child's life, they are treating me with no respect because they are not being honest and assume we are Too stupid to know otherwise and believe the bs.
Here's the thing, he owes you nothing. You are a former fwb from what you have said in this thread, of course he isn't going to tell you because again he doesn't NEED to tell you. You are talking about respect etc,, but you have zero respect for his privacy or boundaries. Do you not see the drama you are creating?

People will hold back because they don't want to hurt others or deal with drama.


Maybe you are right but I asked him that if he was seeing someone else that I would want to know and he said he would tell me.

At the moment I've had enough of everything and everyone. I don't give 2 f# $ % s anymore about what is going on. I'm not asking for sympathy or people to back my side. I just want opinions and I appreciate everyone's input.

I would never consider what I had with him just a fwb. Almost 2 years of seeing each and going away together. Sharing secrets. Being given false hope by him as to when he would come out and tell everyone about us. A decent amount of time that I feel deserves respect and honesty that's all.
You do deserve better. I'm not sure what you gain continuing to be his friend other than a false sense of hope thats gonna prolong the hurt. Cut him off like your sag friend did.
I know that's what I need to do...we are just friends but my heart is still with him and I know either way (whether I stop talking to him or whether I stay friends) it will hurt and he said to me if I disappeared, he would be devo (and he said this with tears in his eyes)..

Thank you..i need to really consider what is best for me at the end of the day..
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So let me get this straight.

You are the first woman and he has being with someone else at the same time but you were never officially together.

I can understand you are not happy about it but he can do that because he is not exclusive with you.

Now is about what you want. If you want a relationship with him then talk about it and become exclusive and move from there.

If he says that he doesn’t want you to go maybe he is ready to commit if you forgive him for not being honest about it.

You just have to decide what you want and is best for you and take the necessary steps.
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So let me get this straight.

You are the first woman and he has being with someone else at the same time but you were never officially together.

I can understand you are not happy about it but he can do that because he is not exclusive with you.

Now is about what you want. If you want a relationship with him then talk about it and become exclusive and move from there.

If he says that he doesn’t want you to go maybe he is ready to commit if you forgive him for not being honest about it.

You just have to decide what you want and is best for you and take the necessary steps.
Had the talk. Can't give me exclusivity so I've stopped the intimate side.

I was with him for about 16 months then the other came along.

I'm happy to forgive but he would never admit being dishonest.

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So let me get this straight.

You are the first woman and he has being with someone else at the same time but you were never officially together.

I can understand you are not happy about it but he can do that because he is not exclusive with you.

Now is about what you want. If you want a relationship with him then talk about it and become exclusive and move from there.

If he says that he doesn’t want you to go maybe he is ready to commit if you forgive him for not being honest about it.

You just have to decide what you want and is best for you and take the necessary steps.
Had the talk. Can't give me exclusivity so I've stopped the intimate side.

I was with him for about 16 months then the other came along.

I'm happy to forgive but he would never admit being dishonest.

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I read the plot twist just now......being economical with the truth when seeking advice probably isn't the best way of doing things.

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So let me get this straight.

You are the first woman and he has being with someone else at the same time but you were never officially together.

I can understand you are not happy about it but he can do that because he is not exclusive with you.

Now is about what you want. If you want a relationship with him then talk about it and become exclusive and move from there.

If he says that he doesn’t want you to go maybe he is ready to commit if you forgive him for not being honest about it.

You just have to decide what you want and is best for you and take the necessary steps.
Had the talk. Can't give me exclusivity so I've stopped the intimate side.

I was with him for about 16 months then the other came along.

I'm happy to forgive but he would never admit being dishonest.

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Sorry to hear that.

He probably doesn’t think that he was dishonest.



But now is just up to you. Now you know. You just have to do what is best for you.
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I beg you to just stop please changing the story and be straight. You made your friend sound controlling as hell just by going the long way around getting to the real matter.

You said you don't care for pages, and now you do. No shame in that and not going to knock you for it.

Just try to go about it in a less controlling way is the only two cents I can offer.

He considers his private life a priority over his relationship with you. There will be people who share the same priorities as you but he isn't one of them right now.
I'm not changing the story.

I came here to talk about getting my Sag friend and Aqua friend back together as friends.

I never wanted this thread to include me but I guess enough people asked enough questions to help them fill the gaps. If I had said I can't say what the lying is about, no one would be interested In helping out cos it would be too vague for them to give a solid opinion or advice

I just wanted an overall opinion on how I could fix a friendship.

I seriously don't care about me. My head is beyond f# $ ked and I can't do any of this anymore.

I always just want to help everyone else..
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Hmmmm. I'm a Sag, so I will just voice my opinion. Why do you guys care what's going on in his love life?

It's no ones business but his own. Unless he's having sex with one of you and playing you, you shouldn't be too involved in what he's doing. He;s a grown man and the women involved will figure out what they want/ need from him and go from there. He won't be able to keep up the lie for long.

You guys are just 2 friends that should be accepting him as he is, not where he puts his dick at. That's his to worry about. If he's lying to you, it just means he doesn't want you in his business. He's gonna do what he wants and doesn't need to hear grief about it from his 2 best friends. He's avoiding the drama of it all.

Are you guys his friend or the 2 women that he's seeing? The women will figure out what's going on, they always do. It will be your choice whether you want to lose a friend over his private matters.
Truth be told...

I was the first woman but now have removed myself intimately. The Sag is not the other.


Thought so, you need to butt out.

Sorry I know I'm harsh, but really for your sake, I would stay uninvolved.
Ok. Like I was saying.i no longer care what it's about. When u ask someone over and over the same question and they deny it but cannot bet that answer on their child's life, they are treating me with no respect because they are not being honest and assume we are Too stupid to know otherwise and believe the bs.
Here's the thing, he owes you nothing. You are a former fwb from what you have said in this thread, of course he isn't going to tell you because again he doesn't NEED to tell you. You are talking about respect etc,, but you have zero respect for his privacy or boundaries. Do you not see the drama you are creating?

People will hold back because they don't want to hurt others or deal with drama.


Maybe you are right but I asked him that if he was seeing someone else that I would want to know and he said he would tell me.

At the moment I've had enough of everything and everyone. I don't give 2 f# $ % s anymore about what is going on. I'm not asking for sympathy or people to back my side. I just want opinions and I appreciate everyone's input.

I would never consider what I had with him just a fwb. Almost 2 years of seeing each and going away together. Sharing secrets. Being given false hope by him as to when he would come out and tell everyone about us. A decent amount of time that I feel deserves respect and honesty that's all.
I know you don’t want to see it as a FWB, but unless there was an actual convo at some point between the two of you regarding commitment to which both of you agreed, then you were NOT in a relationship and just fk buddies. It hurts but it’s the truth.

Furthermore, he’s in no obligation to tell you his private life. His reluctance to do so, should have been an indicator of where he placed you in his life along with the reluctance to commit to you. Take it as a life lesson to at some point, stop going with the flow and ask where the hell youre going.
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I never go with the flow yet everyone kept saying "go with the flow". It wouldn't last and I would always question him where are we going with this.

I always got that he wasn't there yet. He wanted to be able to see other people. He didn't want to loose me and that I never knew what would happen in the future. He professed he loved me but not in love with me. I said I couldn't keep doing the intimate side unless it was exclusive. He said he couldn't do that so that's why I stopped and just became his friend to which he still says "anything can change in an instant. Never know what the future holds.

I feel like I'm being held at arms reach for when he's finished doing what he needs to do and then MAYBE something will happen.

I'm losing myself at the moment and I don't like it so I think I know what I need to do.

Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all I guess?

Thank u..
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I never go with the flow yet everyone kept saying "go with the flow". It wouldn't last and I would always question him where are we going with this.

I always got that he wasn't there yet. He wanted to be able to see other people. He didn't want to loose me and that I never knew what would happen in the future. He professed he loved me but not in love with me. I said I couldn't keep doing the intimate side unless it was exclusive. He said he couldn't do that so that's why I stopped and just became his friend to which he still says "anything can change in an instant. Never know what the future holds.

I feel like I'm being held at arms reach for when he's finished doing what he needs to do and then MAYBE something will happen.

I'm losing myself at the moment and I don't like it so I think I know what I need to do.

Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all I guess?

Thank u..
That first bold part is classic and an obvious red flag. The moment a guy tells you he wants to see other women, is the moment he holds no liability for what happens with you (in their mind). It was a disclaimer to avoid guilt. All that other bullshit he fed you under the bold and italics, was him throwing a bone hoping he’d keep you on a leash. A backup. Whenever he’d feel like he was losing you, he’d feed you another bone to keep you ‘alive’.

The italic and underline is just you holding out false hope. That’s dangerous territory because the moment he comes back, you’d open the doors hoping it was different. Don’t do that. Cut him off and come to terms that he just used you as a backup and side chick. And while you sat there falling in love with him and feeding off his scraps, he was off trying to find the woman he wanted.

It’s a tough pill to swallow, but learn from this. Don’t make the same mistakes. Don’t be ashamed for what you felt. Be ashamed for what you WILL do if he comes back. Learn from this and accept the truth so you can gain peace.

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That was hard to read but i know it's the Truth and I appreciate u telling me something I've wanted to hear from someone else instead of making excuses for myself and him all the time.

Thank u so much.

I do really appreciate it..