I've recently made a male cancer friend who's such a breath of fresh air, he's super fun to be around and we'd always go on long hang outs and we ended up being really fond of one another on a seemingly platonic level. I'm aware that cancerians sometimes stay away from situations where they might end up rejected or risk feeling vulnerable and he even warned me he didn't want me to get "attached", but we both ended up doing just that. I have a partner whom I'm very happy with and he's never once felt jealous of my new friendship but as of a few days ago my cancer friend literally bailed on me and told me he didn't want to be around anymore because being friends with me would just cause drama he didn't want. I couldn't let go so quickly so I have been messaging him here and there and I know I might seem a tad clingy but i can't just let go of a friendship like that. My best friend of 8 years is a cancer and she's such a bundle of warmth, I thought he'd be the same. He seemed so kind. Tonight he implied his replies to me were pity replies so I told him I wouldn't bother anymore but I'm feeling really confused as to what to do and how to feel. I don't want to speak to him at all and my pride has completely set in. He told me he would hate not speaking to me but told me it was the best thing for him. I dont want to assume he has some romantic interest for me but maybe he does. Will he come around? Why is he feeling this way at all? He's given me absolutely nothing to work with and it makes me feel so alienated, the gut feelings I get from him are all telling me he wants to be around but he tells me he just doesn't care. It hurts me so much. Please help 😢(
Male cancer retreats from friendship

Are you sure you aren't romantically interested in him? Cause you seem a bit clingy for you just to care about him as a friend.

t to be helpful, hopefully it illustrates where he is coming from. I would not hold onto this friend or drag him through the mud, just find another friend.
Posted by Porcerpe
but as of a few days ago my cancer friend literally bailed on me and told me he didn't want to be around anymore because being friends with me would just cause drama he didn't want.Posted by Porcerpe
I couldn't let go so quickly so I have been messaging him here and there and I know I might seem a tad clingy but i can't just let go of a friendship like that.
potentially high drama statementPosted by Porcerpe
Tonight he implied his replies to me were pity replies so I told him I wouldn't bother anymore but I'm feeling really confused as to what to do and how to feel.
potentially high drama statementPosted by Porcerpe
He told me he would hate not speaking to me but told me it was the best thing for him.
refer to first statement about ending the friendship.Posted by Porcerpe
I dont want to assume he has some romantic interest for me but maybe he does. Will he come around?
potentially high drama statementPosted by Porcerpe
He's given me absolutely nothing to work with and it makes me feel so alienated,
potentially high drama statementPosted by Porcerpe
the gut feelings I get from him are all telling me he wants to be around but he tells me he just doesn't care. It hurts me so much. Please help 😢(click to expand
potentially high drama statement

Posted by rabidtalkerNicely broken down.
This is meant to be helpful, hopefully it illustrates where he is coming from. I would not hold onto this friend or drag him through the mud, just find another friend.
Posted by Porcerpe
but as of a few days ago my cancer friend literally bailed on me and told me he didn't want to be around anymore because being friends with me would just cause drama he didn't want.Posted by Porcerpe
I couldn't let go so quickly so I have been messaging him here and there and I know I might seem a tad clingy but i can't just let go of a friendship like that.
potentially high drama statementPosted by Porcerpe
Tonight he implied his replies to me were pity replies so I told him I wouldn't bother anymore but I'm feeling really confused as to what to do and how to feel.
potentially high drama statementPosted by Porcerpe
He told me he would hate not speaking to me but told me it was the best thing for him.
refer to first statement about ending the friendship.Posted by Porcerpe
I dont want to assume he has some romantic interest for me but maybe he does. Will he come around?
potentially high drama statementPosted by Porcerpe
He's given me absolutely nothing to work with and it makes me feel so alienated,
potentially high drama statementPosted by Porcerpe
the gut feelings I get from him are all telling me he wants to be around but he tells me he just doesn't care. It hurts me so much. Please help 😢(
potentially high drama statement
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Kind of makes clear the Cancer guy's statement regarding drama, doesn't it?
Could be a candidate for the "Cancer man left me" thread.

alysis as a girl.Posted by Porcerpe
I couldn't let go so quickly so I have been messaging him here and there and I know I might seem a tad clingy but i can't just let go of a friendship like that.
Stage 5 Clinger alertPosted by Porcerpe
Tonight he implied his replies to me were pity replies so I told him I wouldn't bother anymore but I'm feeling really confused as to what to do and how to feel.
He's trying to be nice, but he doesn't want to talk to you anymore. But you keep being clingy.Posted by Porcerpe
He told me he would hate not speaking to me but told me it was the best thing for him.
He's just being nice again here.Posted by Porcerpe
I dont want to assume he has some romantic interest for me but maybe he does. Will he come around?
This statement kinda looks like you like him to me.Posted by Porcerpe
He's given me absolutely nothing to work with and it makes me feel so alienated,
He didn't give you anything, because he doesn't want you in his life. Stop trying to force yourself into his life.Posted by Porcerpe
the gut feelings I get from him are all telling me he wants to be around but he tells me he just doesn't care. It hurts me so much. Please help 😢(
He told you blatantly he doesn't want to be your friend. Stop using girl logic to twist it into more than what it is. He doesn't want you to be a part of his life. It's literally that simple.
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
Nicely broken down.
Kind of makes clear the Cancer guy's statement regarding drama, doesn't it?
Could be a candidate for the "Cancer man left me" thread.click to expand
Yes, do so.

Posted by nikkistarYeah, that's probably pretty accurate.
Here's my analysis as a girl.Posted by Porcerpe
I couldn't let go so quickly so I have been messaging him here and there and I know I might seem a tad clingy but i can't just let go of a friendship like that.
Stage 5 Clinger alertPosted by Porcerpe
Tonight he implied his replies to me were pity replies so I told him I wouldn't bother anymore but I'm feeling really confused as to what to do and how to feel.
He's trying to be nice, but he doesn't want to talk to you anymore. But you keep being clingy.Posted by Porcerpe
He told me he would hate not speaking to me but told me it was the best thing for him.
He's just being nice again here.Posted by Porcerpe
I dont want to assume he has some romantic interest for me but maybe he does. Will he come around?
This statement kinda looks like you like him to me.Posted by Porcerpe
He's given me absolutely nothing to work with and it makes me feel so alienated,
He didn't give you anything, because he doesn't want you in his life. Stop trying to force yourself into his life.Posted by Porcerpe
the gut feelings I get from him are all telling me he wants to be around but he tells me he just doesn't care. It hurts me so much. Please help 😢(
He told you blatantly he doesn't want to be your friend. Stop using girl logic to twist it into more than what it is. He doesn't want you to be a part of his life. It's literally that simple.
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
Nicely broken down.
Kind of makes clear the Cancer guy's statement regarding drama, doesn't it?
Could be a candidate for the "Cancer man left me" thread.
Yes, do so.click to expand
Although, I'm curious about the stages of clinginess. Is there something after stage 5, and does it involve boiling pet rabbits in pots?

Posted by CancerOnTheCuspOh no, the boiling pets is stage 10. Stages after 5 usually involves phone apps with different phone numbers, and fake social media accounts.
Yeah, that's probably pretty accurate.
Although, I'm curious about the stages of clinginess. Is there something after stage 5, and does it involve boiling pet rabbits in pots?
Lol

Posted by nikkistarI've had a few experiences past stage 5. *shudder*Posted by CancerOnTheCuspOh no, the boiling pets is stage 10. Stages after 5 usually involves phone apps with different phone numbers, and fake social media accounts.
Yeah, that's probably pretty accurate.
Although, I'm curious about the stages of clinginess. Is there something after stage 5, and does it involve boiling pet rabbits in pots?
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It's obvious he likes her which is why he wants to distant himself.
It's not as if he just doesn't want to be friends or whatever.
The focus isn't Drama.
It's not as if he just doesn't want to be friends or whatever.
The focus isn't Drama.

OP
Break it down all you want, I'm gonna keep it simple and tell you that there is no such things as straight male friends.
Sooner or later they will catch the feels and nobody wants to stay in the friendzone.
He cares about you, likes you, and respects your happiness in your relationship to be the bigger person (trust me I'm sure this took a lot for him to do.)
If you have nothing to offer him that he wants, then it's best if you try your best to understand and respect Him by letting things go
Break it down all you want, I'm gonna keep it simple and tell you that there is no such things as straight male friends.
Sooner or later they will catch the feels and nobody wants to stay in the friendzone.
He cares about you, likes you, and respects your happiness in your relationship to be the bigger person (trust me I'm sure this took a lot for him to do.)
If you have nothing to offer him that he wants, then it's best if you try your best to understand and respect Him by letting things go

Posted by CancerOnTheCuspSo have I, it's scary. lolPosted by nikkistarI've had a few experiences past stage 5. *shudder*Posted by CancerOnTheCuspOh no, the boiling pets is stage 10. Stages after 5 usually involves phone apps with different phone numbers, and fake social media accounts.
Yeah, that's probably pretty accurate.
Although, I'm curious about the stages of clinginess. Is there something after stage 5, and does it involve boiling pet rabbits in pots?
Posted by HarleyTwinFlame
It's obvious he likes her which is why he wants to distant himself.
This right here is a prime example of "Girl Logic" for me.
HE MUST LIKE ME BECAUSE HE SAID HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE APART OF MY LIFE ANYMORE BECAUSE ITS EASIER TO LET ME GO THEN TO PINE FOR ME. Dumb.
I swear there is a sub-sector of humans that can perverse any comment to satisfy their fantasies.
Posted by HarleyTwinFlameAnother moronic comment because maybe YOU can't have platonic male friends, but there are females, like me, that can. Ones that end up being groomsmen at her best male friends wedding, and are good friends with their wives.
Break it down all you want, I'm gonna keep it simple and tell you that there is no such things as straight male friends.
Sooner or later they will catch the feels and nobody wants to stay in the friendzone.
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Posted by nikkistarPosted by CancerOnTheCuspSo have I, it's scary. lolPosted by nikkistarI've had a few experiences past stage 5. *shudder*Posted by CancerOnTheCuspOh no, the boiling pets is stage 10. Stages after 5 usually involves phone apps with different phone numbers, and fake social media accounts.
Yeah, that's probably pretty accurate.
Although, I'm curious about the stages of clinginess. Is there something after stage 5, and does it involve boiling pet rabbits in pots?
Posted by HarleyTwinFlame
It's obvious he likes her which is why he wants to distant himself.
This right here is a prime example of "Girl Logic" for me.
HE MUST LIKE ME BECAUSE HE SAID HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE APART OF MY LIFE ANYMORE BECAUSE ITS EASIER TO LET ME GO THEN TO PINE FOR ME. Dumb.
I swear there is a sub-sector of humans that can perverse any comment to satisfy their fantasies.Posted by HarleyTwinFlameAnother moronic comment because maybe YOU can't have platonic male friends, but there are females, like me, that can. Ones that end up being groomsmen at her best male friends wedding, and are good friends with their wives.
Break it down all you want, I'm gonna keep it simple and tell you that there is no such things as straight male friends.
Sooner or later they will catch the feels and nobody wants to stay in the friendzone.
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Yeah I'm not sure about being a stage 5 clinger considering there was a bunch of mixed signals, he'd speak to me first a lot of the time and would say a plethora of things to make me think twice about how platonic it was for him. I'm usually very forward and black and white with people, except when I know there's something not being spoken about then I get a bit confused. I was ever pompous enough to think i could be someone he was interested in, because as stated I've had loads of male friends who have been friends for years and have never once caught feelinga. And just to confirm, I didn't feel anything for him. I'm just very cautious when it comes to people and I felt like I let myself be open with him as I would my other friends and in turn played myself lol.
Posted by nikkistar
Here's my analysis as a girl.Posted by Porcerpe
I couldn't let go so quickly so I have been messaging him here and there and I know I might seem a tad clingy but i can't just let go of a friendship like that.
Stage 5 Clinger alertPosted by Porcerpe
Tonight he implied his replies to me were pity replies so I told him I wouldn't bother anymore but I'm feeling really confused as to what to do and how to feel.
He's trying to be nice, but he doesn't want to talk to you anymore. But you keep being clingy.Posted by Porcerpe
He told me he would hate not speaking to me but told me it was the best thing for him.
He's just being nice again here.Posted by Porcerpe
I dont want to assume he has some romantic interest for me but maybe he does. Will he come around?
This statement kinda looks like you like him to me.Posted by Porcerpe
He's given me absolutely nothing to work with and it makes me feel so alienated,
He didn't give you anything, because he doesn't want you in his life. Stop trying to force yourself into his life.Posted by Porcerpe
the gut feelings I get from him are all telling me he wants to be around but he tells me he just doesn't care. It hurts me so much. Please help 😢(
He told you blatantly he doesn't want to be your friend. Stop using girl logic to twist it into more than what it is. He doesn't want you to be a part of his life. It's literally that simple.
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
Nicely broken down.
Kind of makes clear the Cancer guy's statement regarding drama, doesn't it?
Could be a candidate for the "Cancer man left me" thread.
Yes, do so.click to expand
If "girl logic" is me being really troubled about a friend who's ghosting me without me having done anything to him then yeah call it girl logic. I would say I'm just sentient and I'm putting through as many possible ideas as I can in one post. It wasn't my intention to sound like that lol.

Posted by PorcerpeNo, you got my term of girl logic wrong. He has literally told you repeatedly that he doesn't want to talk to you anymore. But you keep pushing, so he was nice about it at first, and said "I really would hate not to talk to you, but its for the best". When that didn't work, and you continued to push the matter, he got nasty by saying he was replying out of pity. He basically told you probably 4-5 times he doesn't want to talk to you anymore.
If "girl logic" is me being really troubled about a friend who's ghosting me without me having done anything to him then yeah call it girl logic. I would say I'm just sentient and I'm putting through as many possible ideas as I can in one post. It wasn't my intention to sound like that lol.
But then girl logic kicks in, and you twist him saying he doesn't want to talk to you anymore into"the gut feelings I get from him are all telling me he wants to be around".
THAT is my definition of girl logic.
The over-analyzing of everything, when shit is literally really simple. You are ramming yourself into his life against what he wants, because "i can't just let go". You trying to talk to him continually is 100% about your needs, because if it wasn't you would have respected his wishes when he said he didn't want to talk to you anymore. Now you are portraying yourself as creepy and clingy.
Lol
Posted by nikkistarPosted by PorcerpeNo, you got my term of girl logic wrong. He has literally told you repeatedly that he doesn't want to talk to you anymore. But you keep pushing, so he was nice about it at first, and said "I really would hate not to talk to you, but its for the best". When that didn't work, and you continued to push the matter, he got nasty by saying he was replying out of pity. He basically told you probably 4-5 times he doesn't want to talk to you anymore.
If "girl logic" is me being really troubled about a friend who's ghosting me without me having done anything to him then yeah call it girl logic. I would say I'm just sentient and I'm putting through as many possible ideas as I can in one post. It wasn't my intention to sound like that lol.
But then girl logic kicks in, and you twist him saying he doesn't want to talk to you anymore into"the gut feelings I get from him are all telling me he wants to be around".
THAT is my definition of girl logic.
The over-analyzing of everything, when shit is literally really simple. You are ramming yourself into his life against what he wants, because "i can't just let go". You trying to talk to him continually is 100% about your needs, because if it wasn't you would have respected his wishes when he said he didn't want to talk to you anymore. Now you are portraying yourself as creepy and clingy.click to expand
Well if I could add to this, he's been messaging me consistently for the past day or so. I haven't replied. I know when I'm not needed, except I don't appreciate mixed signals. This is what I mean, what is there to not analyse when he's giving me more than what he said he wanted? I don't think I'm portraying myself as creepy or clingy at all considering he's literally been reaching out to me.
I appreciate your definition of girl logic but I don't think it's the most thought out idea.

Posted by PorcerpeSounds like the best opportunity to call it quits for good, congrats! Good luck.
Well if I could add to this, he's been messaging me consistently for the past day or so. I haven't replied. I know when I'm not needed, except I don't appreciate mixed signals. This is what I mean, what is there to not analyse when he's giving me more than what he said he wanted? I don't think I'm portraying myself as creepy or clingy at all considering he's literally been reaching out to me.
I appreciate your definition of girl logic but I don't think it's the most thought out idea.
Posted by PorcerpeI'm having issues with a cancerian myself at the moment and one thing I've read a lot about them is that they love this game of push me pull me. They will push you away because they want to feel needed, but if you do actually walk away they'll come running back to you.it's exactly what's happening right now with my cancer and it kind of looks like yours is doing it too since now he's messaging you cos you've gone silent. And he says he doesn't want drama?Posted by nikkistarPosted by PorcerpeNo, you got my term of girl logic wrong. He has literally told you repeatedly that he doesn't want to talk to you anymore. But you keep pushing, so he was nice about it at first, and said "I really would hate not to talk to you, but its for the best". When that didn't work, and you continued to push the matter, he got nasty by saying he was replying out of pity. He basically told you probably 4-5 times he doesn't want to talk to you anymore.
If "girl logic" is me being really troubled about a friend who's ghosting me without me having done anything to him then yeah call it girl logic. I would say I'm just sentient and I'm putting through as many possible ideas as I can in one post. It wasn't my intention to sound like that lol.
But then girl logic kicks in, and you twist him saying he doesn't want to talk to you anymore into"the gut feelings I get from him are all telling me he wants to be around".
THAT is my definition of girl logic.
The over-analyzing of everything, when shit is literally really simple. You are ramming yourself into his life against what he wants, because "i can't just let go". You trying to talk to him continually is 100% about your needs, because if it wasn't you would have respected his wishes when he said he didn't want to talk to you anymore. Now you are portraying yourself as creepy and clingy.
Well if I could add to this, he's been messaging me consistently for the past day or so. I haven't replied. I know when I'm not needed, except I don't appreciate mixed signals. This is what I mean, what is there to not analyse when he's giving me more than what he said he wanted? I don't think I'm portraying myself as creepy or clingy at all considering he's literally been reaching out to me.
I appreciate your definition of girl logic but I don't think it's the most thought out idea.
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to me it sounds like he has feelings for you. You on the other hand have feelings for someone else.
Any water sign would bail on that as fast as they could if they believed there was no chance to change things - relationship wise.
Any water sign would bail on that as fast as they could if they believed there was no chance to change things - relationship wise.
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