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Risk assessment isn't even established biologically until the age of 25.




Can you elaborate on this?



It's a proven fact of psychological and cognitive development of the brain. The brain isn't fully developed until the age of 25 so full assessment of consequences or risk analysis is questionable for people under the age of 25.



Exactly... And men it's at 30.
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True.
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i still agree with P. If she is in love with this man. (if we are serious about this thread) i dont see how you can ever stop her. If you try and she is Rebellious. she will leave you, and you won't see her for a long time. she would need your support more than anything, not be against her.

Now i understand that alot of women here and men, would caution against this, because much older men can take advantage, but dont be fooled. There are men her age that can also take advantage.

let her live her life and the love that she chooses. Sometimes, many of us fail at it the first or 2nd time. Or sometimes never, or it only takes once.
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Risk assessment isn't even established biologically until the age of 25.




Can you elaborate on this?



It's a proven fact of psychological and cognitive development of the brain. The brain isn't fully developed until the age of 25 so full assessment of consequences or risk analysis is questionable for people under the age of 25.



Exactly... And men it's at 30.



Intrerasding.
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Are you 30 yet?
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TrueCap, I'm kinda getting a mixed feeling about this. Part me think it's creepy for an 40 year old dating a 20 year old and she should date someone her own age but at the same time it's her life and if that's going to make your daughter happy then you should support her and see how it goes for now. Some woman are attracted to much older guys due to their maturity etc but an older guys sometimes date younger woman for wrong reasons. Some older guys may be genuine but others not so much. They may believe younger girls are easier to manipulate so you should keep an eye out for early warning signs. Your daughter is older enough to make her own decision so see where this relationship is going first.

I just hope your daughter doesn't get taken advantage of TrueCap. The reason why I'm saying this is because 2 years ago I was seduced and sexually assaulted by my best friend's dad.He had a devoted wife and everything but in the end he end up flirting with me, touched my butt and put his tongue inside my mouth attempted to kiss me when his daughter wasn't around. I'm still deeply disturbed by this and I stirred clear of him ever since. I haven't confessed to anyone even until this day...I've definitely been taken advantage of...

Another story is a girl I know in real life who has been dating a 48 year old guy ever since the age of 16 and let me tell you her relationship with her family is beyond complicated. And they did not approve of their relationship. To make matters worse she's also a home wrecker who made the 48 year old guy divorce his wife who had 2 children. Now still living together, she's stuck with 2 of his kids at the age of 21. I felt she was definitely looking for a father figure.

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d find it creepy as fuck. I had old guys hitting on me throughout my teens and into my early 20s. I hated it every time because they were freaking creeps.

Girls who embrace that type of attention have problems. No offense to your daughter.

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Tell her what my mom told me: 'There's a reason why a woman his age isn't with him.'



I say this all the time when someone that much older goes after someone younger- wtf is wrong with them that they won't date someone their own age/someone their own age won't date them??

I know of a few guys who always date much younger women and they're in their 30s. They're emotionally immature and won't be growing up any time soon.

At the same time, women their own age see this and will never take them as serious dating material.

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And for those saying she your daughter knows what is best for her ---- Uhhh, NO, she doesn't.

At 22, nobody knows their ass from their elbow (in general). Risk assessment isn't even established biologically until the age of 25.




AGREED. Leave it to the 21 year old to think that a 22 year old thinks she knows what's best for herself.

Nobody in their early 20s knows shit about anything. They're still learning and the fact that she dates so much says she doesn't know what she wants. She just recylces guys for her own entertainment, as MANY girls do in their early 20s. It's why dating can be such a shit hole for anyone in that age range.

Mom has every right to be concerned. Her daughter is in the moron age group of dating.

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Posted by CapTenn
Risk assessment isn't even established biologically until the age of 25.




Can you elaborate on this?
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...I swear this guy lives under a rock.

Shocked that women will go to great lengths to get knocked up to keep a guy, and now he's playing newb to the fact that people don't psychologically mature til 25.

Someone please explain to me why some bitches worship this dude's outlook on this type of stuff? He knows nothing. Blows my effing mind.
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Lots of guys in their 40s who date a woman that young are those age-phobic types who can't stand the fact that they're getting older, and somehow feel like they are magically younger because they are dating a young female. Like I said, it's a little creepy.



+578932578943578943!!

This is SO common in the guys I know who do this. They just cannot grasp that it's time to grow up. Some are so blatantly obvious. "Omg ew people my age. They're in their 30s. I need someone in their 20s because that's where my mentality is still at/where I still want to be."
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Lots of guys in their 40s who date a woman that young are those age-phobic types who can't stand the fact that they're getting older, and somehow feel like they are magically younger because they are dating a young female. Like I said, it's a little creepy.



+578932578943578943!!

This is SO common in the guys I know who do this. They just cannot grasp that it's time to grow up. Some are so blatantly obvious. "Omg ew people my age. They're in their 30s. I need someone in their 20s because that's where my mentality is still at/where I still want to be."
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You took the words right out of my mouth lol
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Posted by CapTenn
Risk assessment isn't even established biologically until the age of 25.




Can you elaborate on this?



It's a proven fact of psychological and cognitive development of the brain. The brain isn't fully developed until the age of 25 so full assessment of consequences or risk analysis is questionable for people under the age of 25.



Exactly... And men it's at 30.



what?!
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That's right...😱
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Posted by FrenchKpricorn
As a realistic cap, i dont understand "The power of love" or "age doesnt matter only the feelings count"

there is four billion of girls on earth, choose one with 30 yo ? too hard ?
ho, sorry must be the power of love. why search ? when you can wait for some na?ve girls in front of university.

she 's 22 so what — she 's still living with her mother, she's still eating the food your buy, she is still on your financial dependence. so "she s an adult" please just stop.

he's bald, i admit the fact that when you are starting you loosing your hair, you start to loose your self confidence and speak with person of your age must be hard, impress kid is so easier, "you know i have my own appartment, my own car".

he's fourty and he's still talking about his tatoos, wow so cute?? but that's kind of things you do between 15 - 25.

how he can understand, a person with 20yo under him??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pan_Syndrome.
a pop-psychology concept of a male adult who is socially immature


meet him.



i'm sorry but men even in their 40s play sports and do alot of stuff that isn't considered "mature".

Even my neighbor male who is married to the leo, bought himself some drum sets even in his 60s ok—

and he's rocking it out. but he was respectful and asked us if he could play it and asked other neighbors near by if it's okay he would play his drum sets during the day and early evening. and we're like, go on ahead!!! knock yourself out. He's been enjoying himself as long as he lives.

some men in their 60s and 70s do some weird childish stuff like train sets and stuff and collect stamps still to this day, so i dont see why people have to "niche" Other people into a category as if they can't do anything. It's very controlling.
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Posted by lisabethur8
it's very terrible to be around people who won't let you live and enjoy life as long as it doesn't hurt or interfere.



Get your head out of the clouds.

This guy chasing her IS going to hurt and interfere. You can go as extreme to say he could manipulate her into alienating herself from friends and family and they could never see her again. It's extreme, but it's been known to happen to vulnerable women with controlling and manipulative guys.

So she has every right to be concerned. If it's a phase, cool. But guys who chase after youngins like this are out for sex and using her because she's young and naive. Her daughter is too young to be potentially fucking her life up for some old loser that can't find anyone his own age.

And even if all is good between them, this won't last long. It's hard to be in a relationship with someone who you cannot relate to due to age gap. He'll either get sick of her childish ways or she'll get over the fact that he's old.

Some of you need to grow the fuck up and face reality. The OP has every right to be concerned about her own daughter. She gets a gold star for even caring. Some parents don't even do that much.


OP, where did she meed this guy anyway? And has she offered for you to meet him?
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Posted by FrenchKpricorn
when you have 60 yo, you are retired and you have nothing to prove. 30 - 40, you still working and maybe it's time to have a children, with someone from your generation Please.

Then she can do what her want, you know. I know some girls who are flirting with adult, they have free coca??ne what a great placement. And I repeat she's still living with her mom, so no she's not free.

When she's start to walking, this dude was doing his third tattoo...
You know my mom is 40 and my dad is 60, every time someone see me with him, they ask me if he's not my grandpa,and it's obvious that my dad gonna die before my 40 yo.

Bref



OK.

>_>
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Posted by CapTenn
Risk assessment isn't even established biologically until the age of 25.




Can you elaborate on this?



It's a proven fact of psychological and cognitive development of the brain. The brain isn't fully developed until the age of 25 so full assessment of consequences or risk analysis is questionable for people under the age of 25.



Exactly... And men it's at 30.



Intrerasding.



Are you 30 yet?



Not quite
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Just a young pup 😄
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Posted by P-Angel

This thread is very deceptive .... I really had no clue that Capricorns were so dishonest.



No one's being dishonest. I was very factual in the fact that I am wondering whether I should be concerned. I worry. That's normal. Every mother worries about their kids. I want what is the best for my daughter. All I wanted was opinions on a 20 year age gap. I know there's nothing I can do about it regardless of what I think.

I've gotten many viewpoints from many different people. That is what I was looking for. Responses from the 20 year old girls and some from the 40 year old men. I value everyone's opinion and it has helped me to be more understanding.

I literally laughed out loud when you said I was trying to control her. Ain't gonna happen. she's a stubborn capricorn. lol!

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I have to admit, I do think it's weird to mention how a good mother would feel, yet at the same time not trust the decisions or judgment of the daughter you raised. If you feel you really did a good job then you should trust her. If he's not for her, trust she'll figure it out quickly for herself. If he is, then trust that she'll figure that out for herself too.



This is a valid point, but a mother never ever stops worrying about their children. We do our best to raise them with good values, the ability to think for themselves, to discern good judgment from bad, all that stuff...but you never stop worrying. Heck, my mother worries about me and I'm 47 years old.
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I have to admit, I do think it's weird to mention how a good mother would feel, yet at the same time not trust the decisions or judgment of the daughter you raised. If you feel you really did a good job then you should trust her. If he's not for her, trust she'll figure it out quickly for herself. If he is, then trust that she'll figure that out for herself too.



This is a valid point, but a mother never ever stops worrying about their children. We do our best to raise them with good values, the ability to think for themselves, to discern good judgment from bad, all that stuff...but you never stop worrying. Heck, my mother worries about me and I'm 47 years old.
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Only a mother could understand this 🙂
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it's very terrible to be around people who won't let you live and enjoy life as long as it doesn't hurt or interfere.



Get your head out of the clouds.

This guy chasing her IS going to hurt and interfere. You can go as extreme to say he could manipulate her into alienating herself from friends and family and they could never see her again. It's extreme, but it's been known to happen to vulnerable women with controlling and manipulative guys.

So she has every right to be concerned. If it's a phase, cool. But guys who chase after youngins like this are out for sex and using her because she's young and naive. Her daughter is too young to be potentially fucking her life up for some old loser that can't find anyone his own age.

And even if all is good between them, this won't last long. It's hard to be in a relationship with someone who you cannot relate to due to age gap. He'll either get sick of her childish ways or she'll get over the fact that he's old.

Some of you need to grow the fuck up and face reality. The OP has every right to be concerned about her own daughter. She gets a gold star for even caring. Some parents don't even do that much.


OP, where did she meed this guy anyway? And has she offered for you to meet him?
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She met him through the 30 year old she used to date (they are still friends). I liked the 30 yo, so maybe he is a good guy. She hasn't offered me to meet him. That concerns me too. However, if it's not serious, why would she bring him around.

Hoping it's not serious.
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Posted by e11e
aren't caps known to date someone older? not all, but I've seen a trend.

she's 22. she's not in love. this will pass. as long as she's being safe just let her get through this experience and be there for her when she comes out the other side.



You are probably spot on.

Of course, I will be here. Of course, I will support her regardless of what she does.
All I can do is be here.
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To be really honest, and with no judgement call whatsoever, often (NOT ALWAYS) young women who go after older men are looking for fatherly recognition.

Grandpas don't count because their love is different from that of a father.

It may be the Electra Complex playing out.



+1

Speaking as a 42yo single guy, a 20 year age gap is creepy. I have plenty of FRIENDS who are younger, but I just don't see myself being able to have a normal, healthy relationship with a woman that much younger. 10 years younger is the limit. Maaaaaybe a 30yo could squeak by if she were a really outstanding lady and interested.

Lots of guys in their 40s who date a woman that young are those age-phobic types who can't stand the fact that they're getting older, and somehow feel like they are magically younger because they are dating a young female. Like I said, it's a little creepy.
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Maybe the day she brings him around is the day I could be cleaning my shotgun!

Since, her daddy isn't in the picture, seems like I'll have to play the father role too.


hahahahaha!!!!




I kid, I kid. 😛
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And for all the naysayers, I understand your point of view, but I'm not wrong to worry and be concerned. There is nothing wrong about loving your children enough to be concerned about their well being, worrying about mistakes they make....

When you have children, you will feel the same damn way.

Except P-Angel, and I guess her kids were left to their own devices when they left home. I joke because I find it hard to believe she didn't ever stop worrying about them.



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And for all the naysayers, I understand your point of view, but I'm not wrong to worry and be concerned. There is nothing wrong about loving your children enough to be concerned about their well being, worrying about mistakes they might make....

When you have children, you will feel the same damn way.

Except P-Angel, and I guess her kids were left to their own devices when they left home. I joke because I find it hard to believe she didn't ever stop worrying about them.


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Yes, the thread is a deception.

You made this thread asking people to advise you on something that is non-existent. There is no problem with her, there is no issue with her, or her boyfriend.

The problem is you, and your need to control.

I don't see from anything written in here where her well-being was the focus. If her well-being were the focus (as you are trying to convey by using motherhood as justification) ... then you would be happy for her that she has found a new man!!!

The honeymoon stage of a new relationship is what we are living for, truecap.

But, you can't see that for her. You don't want her to be happy with her new lover ... because you have a problem with what you think is appropriate, based on your prejudism of tattoos and age.

A good mother would be happy for her ADULT child that she feels alive again .... for as long as it fucking lasts. What the fuck are you doing putting dampering vibes on your daughters new lover?

Have you had this energy with all of her boyfriends? Because you said that none of them have lasted.

Do you know that it's very unusual for a 22 year old female to not be able to keep a boyfriend?

This is all kinds of fucked up.

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And you are wrong.

This isn't loving your child. This is wanting to control your child ... who's an adult.

Loving your adult daughter when she in the throes of new lover SHOULD take the form of extreme happiness for her.

If you are making a thread to discuss this in detail, and have many inputs then that means you are honoring this paranoid feeling you have, and that is the reason why you needed to come and get validated for it.

So, that means it IS the energy you carry around. So, instead of putting off exciting vibes for her, you putting off paranoid and doubtful ones.

You're not looking out for her well-being, at all ... you're looking out for fulfilling your need to control. If you were looking out for her well-being, then this thread would be about how excited you are that your daughter (whom you taught) has found a love.
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... but I'm not wrong to worry and be concerned. There is nothing wrong about loving your children enough to be concerned about their well being, worrying about mistakes they might make....

I find it hard to believe she didn't ever stop worrying about them.







So, what the fuck is that?

You talking about me, rather than to me?
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Calm down. It was a joke. I said I was kidding around.
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And you are wrong.

This isn't loving your child. This is wanting to control your child ... who's an adult.

Loving your adult daughter when she in the throes of new lover SHOULD take the form of extreme happiness for her.

If you are making a thread to discuss this in detail, and have many inputs then that means you are honoring this paranoid feeling you have, and that is the reason why you needed to come and get validated for it.

So, that means it IS the energy you carry around. So, instead of putting off exciting vibes for her, you putting off paranoid and doubtful ones.

You're not looking out for her well-being, at all ... you're looking out for fulfilling your need to control. If you were looking out for her well-being, then this thread would be about how excited you are that your daughter (whom you taught) has found a love.



I asked if I should be concerned. I am concerned. I did wonder if that concern was valid. Wanted to get some opinions on it.

I am wondering about his motivation. He could be manipulative. He could be controlling. He could be a pervert only interested in sex with a naive young girl (and she is naive and very gullible). He could be after a lot of things. The 40 year old men on here really confirmed that I should be concerned about his intentions.

However, I realize that he could have good intentions. He could be a great guy. I don't know. I admitted that I didn't know him in my first post on this.

I'm not robbing her of her happiness. If she is truly happy and he is a good guy with good intentions, and he treats her well, then I would accept it whether I like it or not.

I haven't said anything to her about it. I'm not interfering with her relationship. She's grown. There's nothing I can do about it. I know this.

Still concerned though. And concern does not equate to interference.
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Posted by e11e
aren't caps known to date someone older? not all, but I've seen a trend.

she's 22. she's not in love. this will pass. as long as she's being safe just let her get through this experience and be there for her when she comes out the other side.

I agree. she has 30 years old friend, then there came this man. she feels ok with older people. BTW Aqua can get along well with older ones too.

I don't think she will stay with him though (unless he is a good Provider?). Cause Caps don't accept the easy success. They must work for it step by step and hard.

But if she is a late bloomer, she won't listen to her mom. Girls who are too sweet to mom when teeny are devil to her later. At least I was somewhat unfair to my mother with 22 and my first love.

And I saw it the other day (on TV) between Lory and Lorelai (Gilmore girls). When Lory was dating that crazy rich boy Logan. "In the sixth season, Lorelai and Rory do not talk for months while Luke agrees to marry Lorelai and they renovate her house."
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... but I'm not wrong to worry and be concerned. There is nothing wrong about loving your children enough to be concerned about their well being, worrying about mistakes they might make....

I find it hard to believe she didn't ever stop worrying about them.







So, what the fuck is that?

You talking about me, rather than to me?



Calm down. It was a joke. I said I was kidding around.
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I dunno why you bother even trying to explain yourself to her. It's just a waste. She's insanely irrational in all her spouting that she does. She's amazing at flipping the script and turning the victim/innocent into the bad guy. Her sole purpose on this forum is to make people feel bad for breathing air when all she's doing is proving that she wastes air. ...or maybe she needs fresh air. Who knows.
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Stats on divorce/relationship breakups are quite high these days. Relationships start, fail or continue for a multitude of reasons, age is just one factor.

We have no idea whether the guy typically seeks out younger women or sheet just happened. Usually sheet just happens.

If you could apply pure logic to a relationship we'd all be walky talky robots

Personally I wouldn't look for someone much younger than myself but life is too short not to follow your heart sometimes

Truecap, it's not ideal, but it's not your life.
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Lots of guys in their 40s who date a woman that young are those age-phobic types who can't stand the fact that they're getting older, and somehow feel like they are magically younger because they are dating a young female. Like I said, it's a little creepy.



+578932578943578943!!

This is SO common in the guys I know who do this. They just cannot grasp that it's time to grow up. Some are so blatantly obvious. "Omg ew people my age. They're in their 30s. I need someone in their 20s because that's where my mentality is still at/where I still want to be."



Okay TrueCap, this guy has made Rocky and I agree on something. For that alone, he's probably gotta die. I and my .30-06 with illuminated reticle mil-dot scope are at your disposal.
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But the concern is legit. A friend of a friend of mine, who is a female Cap, dated an older guy ... it looks like it didn't work out and it also sound like from the Cap that the guy was a douche. The Cap was around 18 and the guy was in his 30s.







No, it's not legit.

Your of a friend, is not this girl ... so, her experiences are irrelevant.

I'm shocked about Capricorns, tbh ... I really had no clue that they were like this.
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then I would accept it whether I like it or not.

I haven't said anything to her about it. I'm not interfering with her relationship. She's grown. There's nothing I can do about it. I know this.

Still concerned though. And concern does not equate to interference.







Accepting her and believing in here are two entirely different things.

And you missed my point entirely. But, I'm now seeing that you are incapable. For some reason, I guess Capricorns are unable to realize that humans act like it. I didn't know that about them. I really didn't. All these years I thought that they lived.