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Posted by blackheartI don't care how cool he is, he still wants to fuck you
After having several discussions and people asking me advice on what went wrong in their relationships with woman. I have developed a premise in why good guys finish last. Good guys hide their honest intentions of what they truly desire. Which is ofcourse, usually sex. They will do this by putting the object of their desire onto a pedestal and inhibit showcasing their true qualities (as well as negative qualities) in efforts of "charming" a woman. Women aren't stupid, they have the mechanisms to determine whether someone is being deceptive; they also don't want something that comes off as desperate. The people depicted as "bad guys" are usually men that understand their high self worth and act truly on their intentions. If they want to seduce a chick and say nasty shit to them to bring them home, at least they're being fucking honest. There are too many whiteknights manifesting and complaining about how their "positive actions" should compensate or deserve anything from a woman they've been chasing.
I'm not sure why good guys expect or deserve anything from a woman just by treating them friendly. They want a man who's confident and takes charge while acting in his own honest interest. Would you agree the "good guys" are truly the bad guys in the sense their ingenuine actions should deserve anything?
Posted by breterpanI agree. People who are assholes, are surely assholes. But men who hide under the facade of being a "good guy" in efforts of getting tail are even worse. Ofcourse the happy medium is ideal, relationships are about compromise, but it really pisses me off how some men have no self-respect and think they're deserving of something because they were being nice. :/
there is also this thing called a happy medium
you can be nice and respectful while also having confidence and making your intentions clear
People often cant define what constitutes 'good' and 'bad'
I dont think either are just good or just bad because
1. I assume most people have layers
2. Thats just fucking stupid
I dont think either are just good or just bad because
1. I assume most people have layers
2. Thats just fucking stupid
When I find a comfort zone I make it obvious, I'm not gonna hide or lie, I could potentially be passing on some mutual strange. We all got needs
Posted by tizianiI just made an assumption, that sexual compatibility is one of the first instincts that arise when a man is looking for a partner. The premise doesn't change. If a guys an asshole, doesn't want sex..but a relationship in this case, at least he is being honest in his character. He sets out accept or reject me ultimatum with the woman he approaches. I would still respect him more.
What about the bad guy who doesn't want sex? They never write anything about that dude.
but other shit needs to be taken into effect like crazy eyes and the shit they say random acts of craziness and she told you she feels better that her period ended a week ago. friendships don't sink as bad as relationships
I need someone who makes me laugh and likes to talk about anything. If I hear like ok whatever and what does that mean in the first 5 sentences my dick wouldn't get hard if you put it in a freezer
Posted by AfternoonDelights22I agree in the fact our judgment is completely subjective. But in the case, let's say myself, I can be considered a bad guy in a case I may neglect a date with a woman because I'd rather be doing something else. Ofcourse this would be different in an actual relationship, but my actions are being scrutinized to create a negative persona of who i truly am.
People often cant define what constitutes 'good' and 'bad'
I dont think either are just good or just bad because
1. I assume most people have layers
2. Thats just fucking stupid
Posted by NobleSagThis is important for men to understand. Being able to first be comfortable within their own comfort zone/self-image haha.
When I find a comfort zone I make it obvious, I'm not gonna hide or lie, I could potentially be passing on some mutual strange. We all got needs
Posted by blackheartPosted by NobleSagThis is important for men to understand. Being able to first be comfortable within their own comfort zone/self-image haha.
When I find a comfort zone I make it obvious, I'm not gonna hide or lie, I could potentially be passing on some mutual strange. We all got needsclick to expand
It's also important for a man to provide a woman time to develop her zone as well. if you don't your just talking in the mirror every night for a week which is fucking creepy.
Posted by tizianiThis is a good question. Men have a higher chance of being inherently driven by sex because of the production of greater levels of testosterone. But to be completely honest, I think both men and woman can be equally sexually driven. Using my own anecdotal experience, after having sex quite a few times..it gets boring and then you may start searching for a deeper connection. I very well could be that "bad guy" who looks for much more than sex but I'd never say it.Posted by blackheartPosted by tizianiI just made an assumption, that sexual compatibility is one of the first instincts that arise when a man is looking for a partner. The premise doesn't change. If a guys an asshole, doesn't want sex..but a relationship in this case, at least he is being honest in his character. He sets out accept or reject me ultimatum with the woman he approaches. I would still respect him more.
What about the bad guy who doesn't want sex? They never write anything about that dude.
Fair enough. I can't fault that.
I do have something to question about the assumption but I can't find the way to word it simply right now. It's something that's been jarring me for months about " gender roles". Do men really chase sex as much as they say we do or do women roll with that assumption and base their relationships on sex?
It's an eternal headfuck. Maybe its s
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Food, sex, love, amongst a few other things are the basis of human needs. We all need one or the other to survive. I just think with social media becoming more prominent, pop culture being oversexualised, etc..the concept of being in a relationship has changed. If you want to look at exhibit a, just look at your parents and ask them how they first met.
Posted by blackheartThis is a little too deep for my moon but I'll shoot. It is very subjective I guess but to whom? Society? The "good guys" trying to make a case for why they're superior?Posted by AfternoonDelights22I agree in the fact our judgment is completely subjective. But in the case, let's say myself, I can be considered a bad guy in a case I may neglect a date with a woman because I'd rather be doing something else. Ofcourse this would be different in an actual relationship, but my actions are being scrutinized to create a negative persona of who i truly am.
People often cant define what constitutes 'good' and 'bad'
I dont think either are just good or just bad because
1. I assume most people have layers
2. Thats just fucking stupid
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Does them trying to make that case even make them bad for doing so? Also subjective
I still say everyone is both. Just dudes who may want some punani and think they're too good for such girls picking perceived fuck ups. And other dudes who may fuck up things but at least are more straight up. Neither are bad people per se
Posted by tizianiYou need a conscious self- defense mechanism for your emotions. You don't deserve to be hurt by someone who doesn't understand you. It's only fair to be a little overprotective y'know
*Maybe it's simpler to be layered, like Nights said.
Posted by blackheartThat's about as solid as it gets. It's a problem because most people are very chatty on the net but put them in a room with 3 humans and they just shutdown between that and checking a phone every 11 seconds the game has changed I just have a hard time fucking a girl I can't talk to. I'm right handed and it wouldn't be awkward and my hand would go back to his normal duties wouldn't feel as nice but I wouldn't have to say had fun see you soon while she checks her Facebook.Posted by tizianiThis is a good question. Men have a higher chance of being inherently driven by sex because of the production of greater levels of testosterone. But to be completely honest, I think both men and woman can be equally sexually driven. Using my own anecdotal experience, after having sex quite a few times..it gets boring and then you may start searching for a deeper connection. I very well could be that "bad guy" who looks for much more than sex but I'd never say it.Posted by blackheartPosted by tizianiI just made an assumption, that sexual compatibility is one of the first instincts that arise when a man is looking for a partner. The premise doesn't change. If a guys an asshole, doesn't want sex..but a relationship in this case, at least he is being honest in his character. He sets out accept or reject me ultimatum with the woman he approaches. I would still respect him more.
What about the bad guy who doesn't want sex? They never write anything about that dude.
Fair enough. I can't fault that.
I do have something to question about the assumption but I can't find the way to word it simply right now. It's something that's been jarring me for months about " gender roles". Do men really chase sex as much as they say we do or do women roll with that assumption and base their relationships on sex?
It's an eternal headfuck. Maybe its s
Food, sex, love, amongst a few other things are the basis of human needs. We all need one or the other to survive. I just think with social media becoming more prominent, pop culture being oversexualised, etc..the concept of being in a relationship has changed. If you want to look at exhibit a, just look at your parents and ask them how they first met.
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Posted by AfternoonDelights22If you see a homeless man on the street, do you see him their because of the bad decisions he's made or do you think he experienced something out of his control that put him there? People have a hard time judging others, yet we still have preconceived notions of who they are just based on superficial appearances. I'm not sure if this is completely relevant to what you were saying but as you said, judging someone can be difficult, it depends on the person.Posted by blackheartThis is a little too deep for my moon but I'll shoot. It is very subjective I guess but to whom? Society? The "good guys" trying to make a case for why they're superior?Posted by AfternoonDelights22I agree in the fact our judgment is completely subjective. But in the case, let's say myself, I can be considered a bad guy in a case I may neglect a date with a woman because I'd rather be doing something else. Ofcourse this would be different in an actual relationship, but my actions are being scrutinized to create a negative persona of who i truly am.
People often cant define what constitutes 'good' and 'bad'
I dont think either are just good or just bad because
1. I assume most people have layers
2. Thats just fucking stupid
Does them trying to make that case even make them bad for doing so? Also subjective
I still say everyone is both. Just dudes who may want some punani and think they're too good for such girls picking perceived fuck ups. And other dudes who may fuck up things but at least are more straight up. Neither are bad people per se
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Not all good guys are inherently trying to get tail, but not all bad guys who make poor decisions are also assholes by nature. My statement was that good guys who are fake, because they expect someone from a woman by being kind, are even worse than the bad guys who are atleast honest with their personal demeanor.
Posted by NobleSagThe game has change forreal my brotha, I keep texts to a minimum to set up dates. Having one on one convos are more meaningful. Lol men having access to watching porn too often trains their mind in a way to make them sexually incompetent. This is why vikings who were hunter gatherers were probably alpha as hell. When they come home from a long day of hunting..like boars or some shit..they're gonna fuck the shit off their wife instead of rubbing one off like what most guys nowadays will commonly do.Posted by blackheartThat's about as solid as it gets. It's a problem because most people are very chatty on the net but put them in a room with 3 humans and they just shutdown between that and checking a phone every 11 seconds the game has changed I just have a hard time fucking a girl I can't talk to. I'm right handed and it wouldn't be awkward and my hand would go back to his normal duties wouldn't feel as nice but I wouldn't have to say had fun see you soon while she checks her Facebook.Posted by tizianiThis is a good question. Men have a higher chance of being inherently driven by sex because of the production of greater levels of testosterone. But to be completely honest, I think both men and woman can be equally sexually driven. Using my own anecdotal experience, after having sex quite a few times..it gets boring and then you may start searching for a deeper connection. I very well could be that "bad guy" who looks for much more than sex but I'd never say it.Posted by blackheartPosted by tizianiI just made an assumption, that sexual compatibility is one of the first instincts that arise when a man is looking for a partner. The premise doesn't change. If a guys an asshole, doesn't want sex..but a relationship in this case, at least he is being honest in his character. He sets out accept or reject me ultimatum with the woman he approaches. I would still respect him more.
What about the bad guy who doesn't want sex? They never write anything about that dude.
Fair enough. I can't fault that.
I do have something to question about the assumption but I can't find the way to word it simply right now. It's something that's been jarring me for months about " gender roles". Do men really chase sex as much as they say we do or do women roll with that assumption and base their relationships on sex?
It's an eternal headfuck. Maybe its s
Food, sex, love, amongst a few other things are the basis of human needs. We all need one or the other to survive. I just think with social media becoming more prominent, pop culture being oversexualised, etc..the concept of being in a relationship has changed. If you want to look at exhibit a, just look at your parents and ask them how they first met.
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Posted by blackheartI gave a coworker some money cause she is a single mom and having a hard time.It got wierd and she ask me to go out with her one night I got tired and wanted to leave and she asked if i was jealous I laughed and said about what. she mentioned the money and i said i gave to you as a favor i don't want it back and if i wanted you i look you in the eyes and tell you. she's beautiful and it made me sad because she had never had that happen to her before. she thought i wanted something which i did. i wanted her to relax and take care of her bills. she's 23. 23 years of assholes. it's hard out here for a moral pimpPosted by AfternoonDelights22If you see a homeless man on the street, do you see him their because of the bad decisions he's made or do you think he experienced something out of his control that put him there? People have a hard time judging others, yet we still have preconceived notions of who they are just based on superficial appearances. I'm not sure if this is completely relevant to what you were saying but as you said, judging someone can be difficult, it depends on the person.Posted by blackheartThis is a little too deep for my moon but I'll shoot. It is very subjective I guess but to whom? Society? The "good guys" trying to make a case for why they're superior?Posted by AfternoonDelights22I agree in the fact our judgment is completely subjective. But in the case, let's say myself, I can be considered a bad guy in a case I may neglect a date with a woman because I'd rather be doing something else. Ofcourse this would be different in an actual relationship, but my actions are being scrutinized to create a negative persona of who i truly am.
People often cant define what constitutes 'good' and 'bad'
I dont think either are just good or just bad because
1. I assume most people have layers
2. Thats just fucking stupid
Does them trying to make that case even make them bad for doing so? Also subjective
I still say everyone is both. Just dudes who may want some punani and think they're too good for such girls picking perceived fuck ups. And other dudes who may fuck up things but at least are more straight up. Neither are bad people per se
Not all good guys are inherently trying to get tail, but not all bad guys who make poor decisions are also assholes by nature. My statement was that good guys who are fake, because they expect someone from a woman by being kind, are even worse than the bad guys who are atleast honest with their personal demeanor.
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Posted by blackheartI totally get what you're saying and your statement holds weight. I'm just saying I don't understand why they're labeled good or bad in the first place and who is labeling them. Unless of course it is themselves which is just the epitome of pretentiousness.Posted by AfternoonDelights22If you see a homeless man on the street, do you see him their because of the bad decisions he's made or do you think he experienced something out of his control that put him there? People have a hard time judging others, yet we still have preconceived notions of who they are just based on superficial appearances. I'm not sure if this is completely relevant to what you were saying but as you said, judging someone can be difficult, it depends on the person.Posted by blackheartThis is a little too deep for my moon but I'll shoot. It is very subjective I guess but to whom? Society? The "good guys" trying to make a case for why they're superior?Posted by AfternoonDelights22I agree in the fact our judgment is completely subjective. But in the case, let's say myself, I can be considered a bad guy in a case I may neglect a date with a woman because I'd rather be doing something else. Ofcourse this would be different in an actual relationship, but my actions are being scrutinized to create a negative persona of who i truly am.
People often cant define what constitutes 'good' and 'bad'
I dont think either are just good or just bad because
1. I assume most people have layers
2. Thats just fucking stupid
Does them trying to make that case even make them bad for doing so? Also subjective
I still say everyone is both. Just dudes who may want some punani and think they're too good for such girls picking perceived fuck ups. And other dudes who may fuck up things but at least are more straight up. Neither are bad people per se
Not all good guys are inherently trying to get tail, but not all bad guys who make poor decisions are also assholes by nature. My statement was that good guys who are fake, because they expect someone from a woman by being kind, are even worse than the bad guys who are atleast honest with their personal demeanor.
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Posted by AfternoonDelights22the intentions. can the man be honest and confident enough to reveal them or does he resort to manipulation and masking it just for a slice of pie not caring howit will affect herPosted by blackheartI totally get what you're saying and your statement holds weight. I'm just saying I don't understand why they're labeled good or bad in the first place and who is labeling them. Unless of course it is themselves which is just the epitome of pretentiousness.Posted by AfternoonDelights22If you see a homeless man on the street, do you see him their because of the bad decisions he's made or do you think he experienced something out of his control that put him there? People have a hard time judging others, yet we still have preconceived notions of who they are just based on superficial appearances. I'm not sure if this is completely relevant to what you were saying but as you said, judging someone can be difficult, it depends on the person.Posted by blackheartThis is a little too deep for my moon but I'll shoot. It is very subjective I guess but to whom? Society? The "good guys" trying to make a case for why they're superior?Posted by AfternoonDelights22I agree in the fact our judgment is completely subjective. But in the case, let's say myself, I can be considered a bad guy in a case I may neglect a date with a woman because I'd rather be doing something else. Ofcourse this would be different in an actual relationship, but my actions are being scrutinized to create a negative persona of who i truly am.
People often cant define what constitutes 'good' and 'bad'
I dont think either are just good or just bad because
1. I assume most people have layers
2. Thats just fucking stupid
Does them trying to make that case even make them bad for doing so? Also subjective
I still say everyone is both. Just dudes who may want some punani and think they're too good for such girls picking perceived fuck ups. And other dudes who may fuck up things but at least are more straight up. Neither are bad people per se
Not all good guys are inherently trying to get tail, but not all bad guys who make poor decisions are also assholes by nature. My statement was that good guys who are fake, because they expect someone from a woman by being kind, are even worse than the bad guys who are atleast honest with their personal demeanor.
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Posted by NobleSagIf your true intention was to help her, you did a really good thing, and I respect that. Maybe she never knew how to react to your kind gesture because of her past experiences and environmental conditioning. You should be honest with her like you said, she will appreciate that.Posted by blackheartI gave a coworker some money cause she is a single mom and having a hard time.It got wierd and she ask me to go out with her one night I got tired and wanted to leave and she asked if i was jealous I laughed and said about what. she mentioned the money and i said i gave to you as a favor i don't want it back and if i wanted you i look you in the eyes and tell you. she's beautiful and it made me sad because she had never had that happen to her before. she thought i wanted something which i did. i wanted her to relax and take care of her bills. she's 23. 23 years of assholes. it's hard out here for a moral pimpPosted by AfternoonDelights22If you see a homeless man on the street, do you see him their because of the bad decisions he's made or do you think he experienced something out of his control that put him there? People have a hard time judging others, yet we still have preconceived notions of who they are just based on superficial appearances. I'm not sure if this is completely relevant to what you were saying but as you said, judging someone can be difficult, it depends on the person.Posted by blackheartThis is a little too deep for my moon but I'll shoot. It is very subjective I guess but to whom? Society? The "good guys" trying to make a case for why they're superior?Posted by AfternoonDelights22I agree in the fact our judgment is completely subjective. But in the case, let's say myself, I can be considered a bad guy in a case I may neglect a date with a woman because I'd rather be doing something else. Ofcourse this would be different in an actual relationship, but my actions are being scrutinized to create a negative persona of who i truly am.
People often cant define what constitutes 'good' and 'bad'
I dont think either are just good or just bad because
1. I assume most people have layers
2. Thats just fucking stupid
Does them trying to make that case even make them bad for doing so? Also subjective
I still say everyone is both. Just dudes who may want some punani and think they're too good for such girls picking perceived fuck ups. And other dudes who may fuck up things but at least are more straight up. Neither are bad people per se
Not all good guys are inherently trying to get tail, but not all bad guys who make poor decisions are also assholes by nature. My statement was that good guys who are fake, because they expect someone from a woman by being kind, are even worse than the bad guys who are atleast honest with their personal demeanor.
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Posted by blackheartwere really good friends. and we're coworkers I don't shit where I sleep.Posted by NobleSagIf your true intention was to help her, you did a really good thing, and I respect that. Maybe she never knew how to react to your kind gesture because of her past experiences and environmental conditioning. You should be honest with her like you said, she will appreciate that.Posted by blackheartI gave a coworker some money cause she is a single mom and having a hard time.It got wierd and she ask me to go out with her one night I got tired and wanted to leave and she asked if i was jealous I laughed and said about what. she mentioned the money and i said i gave to you as a favor i don't want it back and if i wanted you i look you in the eyes and tell you. she's beautiful and it made me sad because she had never had that happen to her before. she thought i wanted something which i did. i wanted her to relax and take care of her bills. she's 23. 23 years of assholes. it's hard out here for a moral pimpPosted by AfternoonDelights22If you see a homeless man on the street, do you see him their because of the bad decisions he's made or do you think he experienced something out of his control that put him there? People have a hard time judging others, yet we still have preconceived notions of who they are just based on superficial appearances. I'm not sure if this is completely relevant to what you were saying but as you said, judging someone can be difficult, it depends on the person.Posted by blackheartThis is a little too deep for my moon but I'll shoot. It is very subjective I guess but to whom? Society? The "good guys" trying to make a case for why they're superior?Posted by AfternoonDelights22I agree in the fact our judgment is completely subjective. But in the case, let's say myself, I can be considered a bad guy in a case I may neglect a date with a woman because I'd rather be doing something else. Ofcourse this would be different in an actual relationship, but my actions are being scrutinized to create a negative persona of who i truly am.
People often cant define what constitutes 'good' and 'bad'
I dont think either are just good or just bad because
1. I assume most people have layers
2. Thats just fucking stupid
Does them trying to make that case even make them bad for doing so? Also subjective
I still say everyone is both. Just dudes who may want some punani and think they're too good for such girls picking perceived fuck ups. And other dudes who may fuck up things but at least are more straight up. Neither are bad people per se
Not all good guys are inherently trying to get tail, but not all bad guys who make poor decisions are also assholes by nature. My statement was that good guys who are fake, because they expect someone from a woman by being kind, are even worse than the bad guys who are atleast honest with their personal demeanor.
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Posted by NobleSagBut he could have decent intentions but still want sex. It's not so black and white. Good and bad. People are far more complicated than most labelsPosted by AfternoonDelights22the intentions. can the man be honest and confident enough to reveal them or does he resort to manipulation and masking it just for a slice of pie not caring howit will affect herPosted by blackheartI totally get what you're saying and your statement holds weight. I'm just saying I don't understand why they're labeled good or bad in the first place and who is labeling them. Unless of course it is themselves which is just the epitome of pretentiousness.Posted by AfternoonDelights22If you see a homeless man on the street, do you see him their because of the bad decisions he's made or do you think he experienced something out of his control that put him there? People have a hard time judging others, yet we still have preconceived notions of who they are just based on superficial appearances. I'm not sure if this is completely relevant to what you were saying but as you said, judging someone can be difficult, it depends on the person.Posted by blackheartThis is a little too deep for my moon but I'll shoot. It is very subjective I guess but to whom? Society? The "good guys" trying to make a case for why they're superior?Posted by AfternoonDelights22I agree in the fact our judgment is completely subjective. But in the case, let's say myself, I can be considered a bad guy in a case I may neglect a date with a woman because I'd rather be doing something else. Ofcourse this would be different in an actual relationship, but my actions are being scrutinized to create a negative persona of who i truly am.
People often cant define what constitutes 'good' and 'bad'
I dont think either are just good or just bad because
1. I assume most people have layers
2. Thats just fucking stupid
Does them trying to make that case even make them bad for doing so? Also subjective
I still say everyone is both. Just dudes who may want some punani and think they're too good for such girls picking perceived fuck ups. And other dudes who may fuck up things but at least are more straight up. Neither are bad people per se
Not all good guys are inherently trying to get tail, but not all bad guys who make poor decisions are also assholes by nature. My statement was that good guys who are fake, because they expect someone from a woman by being kind, are even worse than the bad guys who are atleast honest with their personal demeanor.
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Posted by AfternoonDelights22Most guys do, unfortunately they lack the confidence and charm to be able to say hey I think your hot as fuck do you wanna chill and see what happens? if not im still cool. either way your a nice person so whatever your comfortable with then thats what we will do.I'm very blunt though i try to be nice but i want no miscommunication.Posted by NobleSagBut he could have decent intentions but still want sex. It's not so black and white. Good and bad. People are far more complicated than most labelsPosted by AfternoonDelights22the intentions. can the man be honest and confident enough to reveal them or does he resort to manipulation and masking it just for a slice of pie not caring howit will affect herPosted by blackheartI totally get what you're saying and your statement holds weight. I'm just saying I don't understand why they're labeled good or bad in the first place and who is labeling them. Unless of course it is themselves which is just the epitome of pretentiousness.Posted by AfternoonDelights22If you see a homeless man on the street, do you see him their because of the bad decisions he's made or do you think he experienced something out of his control that put him there? People have a hard time judging others, yet we still have preconceived notions of who they are just based on superficial appearances. I'm not sure if this is completely relevant to what you were saying but as you said, judging someone can be difficult, it depends on the person.Posted by blackheartThis is a little too deep for my moon but I'll shoot. It is very subjective I guess but to whom? Society? The "good guys" trying to make a case for why they're superior?Posted by AfternoonDelights22I agree in the fact our judgment is completely subjective. But in the case, let's say myself, I can be considered a bad guy in a case I may neglect a date with a woman because I'd rather be doing something else. Ofcourse this would be different in an actual relationship, but my actions are being scrutinized to create a negative persona of who i truly am.
People often cant define what constitutes 'good' and 'bad'
I dont think either are just good or just bad because
1. I assume most people have layers
2. Thats just fucking stupid
Does them trying to make that case even make them bad for doing so? Also subjective
I still say everyone is both. Just dudes who may want some punani and think they're too good for such girls picking perceived fuck ups. And other dudes who may fuck up things but at least are more straight up. Neither are bad people per se
Not all good guys are inherently trying to get tail, but not all bad guys who make poor decisions are also assholes by nature. My statement was that good guys who are fake, because they expect someone from a woman by being kind, are even worse than the bad guys who are atleast honest with their personal demeanor.
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Posted by AfternoonDelights22There is no one that can judge another person except themselves. You pretty much nailed it though. But some people will self-rationalize that their kind gestures should be brought into fruition and deserve something more than that.Posted by blackheartI totally get what you're saying and your statement holds weight. I'm just saying I don't understand why they're labeled good or bad in the first place and who is labeling them. Unless of course it is themselves which is just the epitome of pretentiousness.Posted by AfternoonDelights22If you see a homeless man on the street, do you see him their because of the bad decisions he's made or do you think he experienced something out of his control that put him there? People have a hard time judging others, yet we still have preconceived notions of who they are just based on superficial appearances. I'm not sure if this is completely relevant to what you were saying but as you said, judging someone can be difficult, it depends on the person.Posted by blackheartThis is a little too deep for my moon but I'll shoot. It is very subjective I guess but to whom? Society? The "good guys" trying to make a case for why they're superior?Posted by AfternoonDelights22I agree in the fact our judgment is completely subjective. But in the case, let's say myself, I can be considered a bad guy in a case I may neglect a date with a woman because I'd rather be doing something else. Ofcourse this would be different in an actual relationship, but my actions are being scrutinized to create a negative persona of who i truly am.
People often cant define what constitutes 'good' and 'bad'
I dont think either are just good or just bad because
1. I assume most people have layers
2. Thats just fucking stupid
Does them trying to make that case even make them bad for doing so? Also subjective
I still say everyone is both. Just dudes who may want some punani and think they're too good for such girls picking perceived fuck ups. And other dudes who may fuck up things but at least are more straight up. Neither are bad people per se
Not all good guys are inherently trying to get tail, but not all bad guys who make poor decisions are also assholes by nature. My statement was that good guys who are fake, because they expect someone from a woman by being kind, are even worse than the bad guys who are atleast honest with their personal demeanor.
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More than last, they don't finish at all.
Posted by PalerioI think that fails on the individual. I finish twice a week. Im gonna have to drop it down to one. The one said exclusive even though i said i couldn't and i'm seeing others. just ruined it I wont even enter a cellphone contract
More than last, they don't finish at all.
Posted by aquaniblmao that was a very eloquent and rich paragraph. when i saw pussy juice i felt like it hit me, smooth i never saw it coming
Imho, there is no big difference between 'bad' and 'good' guys.
Everyone wants to get laid, the only contrast i see is 'bad' guys using the shotgun approach, having multiple interests going on at the same time in order to maximize chances and the 'good' guys tailoring their approach to a single woman to whom they tell tall tales of marriage, commitment, when they're really just looking out for a steady stream of pussy juice.
Guys, you could "philosophise" till the cows come home, ultimately it is for women to decide what they want.
As for me, the title of this thread says it all. I want a good guy who finishes last... in bed.
As for me, the title of this thread says it all. I want a good guy who finishes last... in bed.
Posted by PoopMcPoopFaceI could not follow your little over the top complicated attempt of escaping a confused girl chasing after you. Only inexperienced girls chase after boys.Posted by UndineThat's where I disagree. Women aren't the only one to choose. Once men understand this and start having standards of their own instead going with any old broad they get better because they understand they don't have to wait in line for a woman to choose them.
Guys, you could "philosophise" till the cows come home, ultimately it is for women to decide what they want.
As for me, the title of this thread says it all. I want a good guy who finishes last... in bed.
I learned this the hard way. I ended up telling the girl to fuck off and not contact me again. She didn't listen so I told my waiter buddy my plan and took her to a place. I said I had to go to the bathroom and went to my friend and gave him some cash for what we ordered and told him make her sweat a little because she thinks she deserves everything. I stayed a bit from afar with binoculars to watch her squirm a little when she found out that I wasn't coming, then when she was washing the dishes and finally when my friend stopped her after 5 dishes and told her that I paid for what we ordered.
I'm as good as the other party allows me to be. I can't say I didn't enjoy it.click to expand
Posted by CAPLOCKSAIDbad or good your not getting any ass without it.man up.
I don't understand how self confidence and being assertive pertains to "Bad Guy"
There's three types
The asshole.he's the lying manipulative bastard who makes it hard for the other two guys.
The bad guy. he maybe cheesy, lame, uses picklines, but what makes him bad is he has confidence to try.
The good guy. You have the best chance out of all three but your balls got lost and your busy looking for bad guys while he's dropping the D The bad guy is this mystical creature you created because you didn't make a move, he's probably the ugliest goofiest bastard you've ever seen, but he'sthe good guys excuse for not getting the girl. You didn't feel it was the right time. It's because your balls are sitting in your sock drawer.Quit being the good guy and be the fucking man. If you don't take action you don't get action.Pussy doesn't fall from the sky for good guys. It walks right past them because they don't know ifyour good bad coherent or even intrested.
The asshole.he's the lying manipulative bastard who makes it hard for the other two guys.
The bad guy. he maybe cheesy, lame, uses picklines, but what makes him bad is he has confidence to try.
The good guy. You have the best chance out of all three but your balls got lost and your busy looking for bad guys while he's dropping the D The bad guy is this mystical creature you created because you didn't make a move, he's probably the ugliest goofiest bastard you've ever seen, but he'sthe good guys excuse for not getting the girl. You didn't feel it was the right time. It's because your balls are sitting in your sock drawer.Quit being the good guy and be the fucking man. If you don't take action you don't get action.Pussy doesn't fall from the sky for good guys. It walks right past them because they don't know ifyour good bad coherent or even intrested.
Posted by CAPLOCKSAIDyeah he's your excuse for not tryingPosted by NobleSagDo you even understand what im saying ?Posted by CAPLOCKSAIDbad or good your not getting any ass without it.man up.
I don't understand how self confidence and being assertive pertains to "Bad Guy"
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Posted by TaniwhaI agree, so good guys either get in line for your darwin awards or hit the drug store line for those magnums and start dropping the DPosted by TaniwhaThat was a bit rough, had to be said though. You are spot on, here's my 2 cents. A woman's intuition is one of the most beautiful things about a her. Women have been doing this shit for hundreds of thousands of years, by that I mean sensing what men are up to and generally knowing exactly what a mans about without so much as a whiff of him. It's down right disrespectful to the human race to think you can do otherwise, this system works for a reason. It's gotten us to where we are today. We would have gone extinct a long time ago if cave girls would fuck any old chimp.
"I have developed a premise in why good guys finish last"
Shut the fuck up dude, you have read that shit countless times on the internet/over heard it in the locker room. You didn't develop shit.
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I stopped reading it because it was beginning to look like a missing person case file solved
Posted by BrotatoLittle to no game. How can you have a shot at the pie when your not even on the menu?
Is this thread about good guys having a weak PM game?
I'm a good guy so Im not gonna do anything because I deserve it Ishouldn't have to work for it.
sincerely your friend,
the truth guy
Posted by PoopMcPoopFaceWho are you talking to?Posted by TaniwhaYes of course because you're a perfect human being too. Have fun judging me.Posted by PoopMcPoopFaceThere's good guys and bad guys, nice guys and wise guys. Then there's this guy, who the fuck is this guys and what the fuck did I just read?Posted by UndineThat's where I disagree. Women aren't the only one to choose. Once men understand this and start having standards of their own instead going with any old broad they get better because they understand they don't have to wait in line for a woman to choose them.
Guys, you could "philosophise" till the cows come home, ultimately it is for women to decide what they want.
As for me, the title of this thread says it all. I want a good guy who finishes last... in bed.
I learned this the hard way. I ended up telling the girl to fuck off and not contact me again. She didn't listen so I told my waiter buddy my plan and took her to a place. I said I had to go to the bathroom and went to my friend and gave him some cash for what we ordered and told him make her sweat a little because she thinks she deserves everything. I stayed a bit from afar with binoculars to watch her squirm a little when she found out that I wasn't coming, then when she was washing the dishes and finally when my friend stopped her after 5 dishes and told her that I paid for what we ordered.
I'm as good as the other party allows me to be. I can't say I didn't enjoy it.click to expand
Posted by BrotatoI don't use pms i go to a bar and do it the original wayPosted by NobleSagDamn, bro.Posted by BrotatoLittle to no game. How can you have a shot at the pie when your not even on the menu?
Is this thread about good guys having a weak PM game?
I'm a good guy so Im not gonna do anything because I deserve it Ishouldn't have to work for it.
sincerely your friend,
the truth guy
Is that what you write in your PMs?
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Posted by BrotatoI normally say why are you sending messages to that douchebag. If he wanted to talk to you why doesn't he come out. Quit wasting your time with him and his emoljis and lets do a shot.Posted by NobleSagSo at the bar do you tell those women about your sick PM game 😕Posted by BrotatoI don't use pms i go to a bar and do it the original wayPosted by NobleSagDamn, bro.Posted by BrotatoLittle to no game. How can you have a shot at the pie when your not even on the menu?
Is this thread about good guys having a weak PM game?
I'm a good guy so Im not gonna do anything because I deserve it Ishouldn't have to work for it.
sincerely your friend,
the truth guy
Is that what you write in your PMs?
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I guess i should thank you.
Posted by blackheartThat is the problem for me.Posted by tizianiPosted by blackheartPosted by tizianiI just made an assumption, that sexual compatibility is one of the first instincts that arise when a man is looking for a partner. The premise doesn't change. If a guys an asshole, doesn't want sex..but a relationship in this case, at least he is being honest in his character. He sets out accept or reject me ultimatum with the woman he approaches. I would still respect him more.
What about the bad guy who doesn't want sex? They never write anything about that dude.
Fair enough. I can't fault that.
I do have something to question about the assumption but I can't find the way to word it simply right now. It's something that's been jarring me for months about " gender roles". Do men really chase sex as much as they say we do or do women roll with that assumption and base their relationships on sex?
It's an eternal headfuck. Maybe its s
after having sex quite a few times..it gets boring and then you may start searching for a deeper connection.
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I don't understand why the act of sex should be seen as shallow, when on the contrary it's mostly through sex that people are allowed to reach that deeper connection they're craving - this assuming you're somehow a spiritual person.
Posted by Paleriohe's a spiritual kidnapper. damn watch out bad guys. he carries binocularsPosted by blackheartThat is the problem for me.Posted by tizianiPosted by blackheartPosted by tizianiI just made an assumption, that sexual compatibility is one of the first instincts that arise when a man is looking for a partner. The premise doesn't change. If a guys an asshole, doesn't want sex..but a relationship in this case, at least he is being honest in his character. He sets out accept or reject me ultimatum with the woman he approaches. I would still respect him more.
What about the bad guy who doesn't want sex? They never write anything about that dude.
Fair enough. I can't fault that.
I do have something to question about the assumption but I can't find the way to word it simply right now. It's something that's been jarring me for months about " gender roles". Do men really chase sex as much as they say we do or do women roll with that assumption and base their relationships on sex?
It's an eternal headfuck. Maybe its s
after having sex quite a few times..it gets boring and then you may start searching for a deeper connection.
I don't see why the act of sex is seen as shallow, when on the contrary it's mostly through sex that people are allowed to reach that deeper connection they're craving - this assuming you're somehow a spiritual person.
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Posted by blackheart
Good guys hide their honest intentions of what they truly desire. Which is ofcourse, usually sex.
"bad guys" are usually men that understand their high self worth and act truly on their intentions.
If they want to seduce a chick and say nasty shit to them to bring them home, at least they're being fucking honest. There are too many whiteknights manifesting and complaining about how their "positive actions" should compensate or deserve anything from a woman they've been chasing.
Would you agree the "good guys" are truly the bad guys in the sense their ingenuine actions should deserve anything?
Interesting twist ... and yes, I would have to agree.
Most people though, on all topics, don't quite grasp negative and positive energies. to them the truth is always negative, while deception is always positive so long as their egos are fulfilled.
IMO the problem is that most guys without xperience just friendzone themselves because they think they have to be friend with the girl before they seduce her, but it is the total opposite because if you want to seduce a girl you have to be the contrary of her friend. You must be dangerous.
So they friendzone themselves, thinking that they will first be friends then lovers, then they don't understand why it doesn't work, so they cry about hypothetical "bad guys" that would take all the girls from "good guys"
So they friendzone themselves, thinking that they will first be friends then lovers, then they don't understand why it doesn't work, so they cry about hypothetical "bad guys" that would take all the girls from "good guys"
Posted by blackheartA reverse interpretation, would you rather hang out with a good girl or a nagging bitch?
After having several discussions and people asking me advice on what went wrong in their relationships with woman. I have developed a premise in why good guys finish last. Good guys hide their honest intentions of what they truly desire. Which is ofcourse, usually sex. They will do this by putting the object of their desire onto a pedestal and inhibit showcasing their true qualities (as well as negative qualities) in efforts of "charming" a woman. Women aren't stupid, they have the mechanisms to determine whether someone is being deceptive; they also don't want something that comes off as desperate. The people depicted as "bad guys" are usually men that understand their high self worth and act truly on their intentions. If they want to seduce a chick and say nasty shit to them to bring them home, at least they're being fucking honest. There are too many whiteknights manifesting and complaining about how their "positive actions" should compensate or deserve anything from a woman they've been chasing.
I'm not sure why good guys expect or deserve anything from a woman just by treating them friendly. They want a man who's confident and takes charge while acting in his own honest interest. Would you agree the "good guys" are truly the bad guys in the sense their ingenuine actions should deserve anything?
I like a guy in between. A respectable guy who is also not a pussy ether.
It's a behaviour that's not limited to guys it's a deep rooted thing in most people because we love this whole 'reward system' thing and it exists in almost every culture.
guy works hard --> expects results
turns out he can't grab them by the pussy.
guy works hard --> expects results
turns out he can't grab them by the pussy.
plus you should read the nice guys vs good guys, it's been around for as far as I remember.
nice guys try.
good guys dgaf
nice guys try.
good guys dgaf
I think that whenever there is interest between a male and a female, there's usually an unconscious, unspoken assumption between both parties that the 'interest' is - or should be - sexual in nature. Regardless of whether or not that is actually the case.
So they end up fucking; or attempting to date and then sleeping with each other, at which point the lack of sexual chemistry is felt and one or both parties convinces themselves they were mistaken about the other and their so called connection. When in reality the sexual aspect was never there. Their connection was meant to be mental, or karmatic or growth inducing the entire time.
But since they've had sex, the ego is usually now involved, so they end up just walking away from the lessons or connection they were originally supposed to have. Because:
So they end up fucking; or attempting to date and then sleeping with each other, at which point the lack of sexual chemistry is felt and one or both parties convinces themselves they were mistaken about the other and their so called connection. When in reality the sexual aspect was never there. Their connection was meant to be mental, or karmatic or growth inducing the entire time.
But since they've had sex, the ego is usually now involved, so they end up just walking away from the lessons or connection they were originally supposed to have. Because:
Posted by Brotatoit's just a greeting if you stay there to long you'll become part of the friend zone,Posted by NobleSagPosted by BrotatoI normally say why are you sending messages to that douchebag. If he wanted to talk to you why doesn't he come out. Quit wasting your time with him and his emoljis and lets do a shot.Posted by NobleSagSo at the bar do you tell those women about your sick PM game 😕Posted by BrotatoI don't use pms i go to a bar and do it the original wayPosted by NobleSagDamn, bro.Posted by BrotatoLittle to no game. How can you have a shot at the pie when your not even on the menu?
Is this thread about good guys having a weak PM game?
I'm a good guy so Im not gonna do anything because I deserve it Ishouldn't have to work for it.
sincerely your friend,
the truth guy
Is that what you write in your PMs?
I guess i should thank you.
Bro, PM game is important.
I'm glad we talked too, dawg.
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Posted by idgaf2It's very difficult to objectively define the terms when they are ultimately subjective. It's like defining an archetype for..let's say a magical wizard.. that could be an old man, with a long beard, in a raggedy robe, holding a wooden staff..but it's not that simple. With this in mind, this is prototypically the image most people will see represents this image (hypothetically speaking). I was trying to make a point in terms of most "good guys", based off anecdotal experience, are not whom they make themselves out to be.
i think, in general, i don't believe there are good and bad people. we just do good and bad things.
if referring to a "good" guy, you mean someone who doesn't assert their intentions, ever. even when it falls in their lap.
and by "bad" guy, you mean someone who takes whatever they want, even if they have no claim to it, then perhaps. but i think it's a small minority of each that exist.
if you really want to discuss the topic, i think those terms need to be defined.
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