Man installs electric fence to keep kids out of his yard

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https://abc13.com/man-installs-electric-fence-to-keep-kids-off-his-lawn/4151403/

A Virginia man says he was tired of kids in his yard so he installed a jolting way to keep them out.

Parents say they called police after finding an electric fence inches away from a school bus stop.

Bryan Tucker says signs posted in his front yard did nothing to keep students off his lawn and leaving trash, so he installed the fence. (middle and high school students)

"I'm not in charge of other people's children. I'm not directing people's children what to do. All I can do is protect myself and that's why I've got a fence up," Tucker told Richmond TV station WRIC.

Neighborhood parents say they're appalled.

"That's a little too extreme," said one parent. "I mean, you're going to let the kids get electrocuted? That's not cool."

The man did take down the fence after he learned it was on county property.

Officials say he will be allowed to put it back if he keeps it at his property line.

(Edited: Homeowner apparently has had signed posted for the last 2 years prior, asking for the kids to stop littering on his yard, and trespassing to no avail. He did this, after years of it being a problem)

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Posted by halalbae

Its a bit insensitive. I get that its perfectly okay for his property to be off limits to children but surely there are healthier, nonviolent, but humorous ways to deal with annoying kids. And what exactly is he ''protecting'' himself from? Trash? The chirren? Too much drama and just lol at his lack of patience. I hope he doesnt have kids of his own

IMO its not. it's someone that is fed up. It's not like he didn't have signs up first, lack of respect for what is his led to the fence.

It is 100% up to the parents that TEACH their kids to respect other peoples property etc. which I can attest from 1st hand experience that is not always the case. As a home owner, I get super pissed off at the neighborhood kids that thinks throwing trash and doing damage is acceptable to them. Nope, sorry. My house, my land, my property. So I can either bitch about it or attempt to do something to keep my land nice.
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Posted by halalbae

Its a bit insensitive. I get that its perfectly okay for his property to be off limits to children but surely there are healthier, nonviolent, but humorous ways to deal with annoying kids. And what exactly is he ''protecting'' himself from? Trash? The chirren? Too much drama and just lol at his lack of patience. I hope he doesnt have kids of his own


I am going to have to disagree with this statement based off this story itself. It wasn't like he didn't try and do something "less" drastic for at least 2 years prior. And also, these weren't little kindergarten kids that look cute and adorable. These are kids that are likely 12 to 17 years old, being they are middle to high school students. I love my son, but I know he can be a little shit, and he is 13.
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haven't read that, but the word fence confuse me, I think anything "electrical" below 5'5f should be illegal, you're not protecting yourself, you're putting a trap.

and I don't care about what you think about kids, but if your thought is to harm them, then you're a liability to our kind, at least kids aren't mature enough yet, not hope for you.

I would personally use my knowledge just to sabotage that fence.

this world is anarchy.
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haven't read that, but the word fence confuse me, I think anything "electrical" below 5'5f should be illegal, you're not protecting yourself, you're putting a trap.

and I don't care about what you think about kids, but if your thought is to harm them, then you're a liability to our kind, at least kids aren't mature enough yet, not hope for you.

I would personally use my knowledge just to sabotage that fence.

this world is anarchy.


Is barbed/razor wire around a business a trap?
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can I just take a bad step and fall to my death? or I have to try to climb something clearly trespassing to get hurt.

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Posted by Endless

haven't read that, but the word fence confuse me, I think anything "electrical" below 5'5f should be illegal, you're not protecting yourself, you're putting a trap.

and I don't care about what you think about kids, but if your thought is to harm them, then you're a liability to our kind, at least kids aren't mature enough yet, not hope for you.

I would personally use my knowledge just to sabotage that fence.

this world is anarchy.

you do understand that these types of fences are used on farms and such to coral horses/cows. Right? its a tad stronger than a 9 volt battery, they aren't hidden typically but very much in view.

what they typically look like

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haven't read that, but the word fence confuse me, I think anything "electrical" below 5'5f should be illegal, you're not protecting yourself, you're putting a trap.

and I don't care about what you think about kids, but if your thought is to harm them, then you're a liability to our kind, at least kids aren't mature enough yet, not hope for you.

I would personally use my knowledge just to sabotage that fence.

this world is anarchy.

you do understand that these types of fences are used on farms and such to coral horses/cows. Right? its a tad stronger than a 9 volt battery, they aren't hidden typically but very much in view.

what they typically look like

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LOL the fence this guy put up is one of those low voltage dog fences. HAHAH
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That doesn't look like it's properly marked which is annoying. So, basically anyone that even touches it (grandmas and grandpas or little ones walking with family and not aware of the fence) can get shocked.

Plus, it's not even tall enough so what kind of protection is he even getting? People can just throw trash over the short fence just to be spiteful. They probably will too.


That's what I'm thinking. Animals could run into it too.

And yes, I can easily imagine anyone who was making trouble for him deliberately before will just toss things over the fence.

Adults litter on my property -- toss things out of their windows as they drive by, usually cans or cups, that end up on my property line. It's rare for me to see it outside of tourist season. It signifies the start of spring for me. lol People who live here year-round have more respect.

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haven't read that, but the word fence confuse me, I think anything "electrical" below 5'5f should be illegal, you're not protecting yourself, you're putting a trap.

and I don't care about what you think about kids, but if your thought is to harm them, then you're a liability to our kind, at least kids aren't mature enough yet, not hope for you.

I would personally use my knowledge just to sabotage that fence.

this world is anarchy.


Is barbed/razor wire around a business a trap?

can I just take a bad step and fall to my death? or I have to try to climb something clearly trespassing to get hurt.

is not what you do is how you do it, the world is not black and white


Businesses as well as farms and ranches also have electric fences. Are they somehow more important that they allowed to have those security measures but a home owner is not?
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first of, for what I can tell, home owners are allow to, I don't have to agree with that anyway.

farms are indeed different, they are rural, far from the tight population of the urban setting, their needs are different.

business is a broad term, but they follow an strict code of building anyway, so I actually doubt a low electric fence will be use in most cases.
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Posted by TheRabbit

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Posted by TheRabbit

Posted by Endless

haven't read that, but the word fence confuse me, I think anything "electrical" below 5'5f should be illegal, you're not protecting yourself, you're putting a trap.

and I don't care about what you think about kids, but if your thought is to harm them, then you're a liability to our kind, at least kids aren't mature enough yet, not hope for you.

I would personally use my knowledge just to sabotage that fence.

this world is anarchy.


Is barbed/razor wire around a business a trap?

can I just take a bad step and fall to my death? or I have to try to climb something clearly trespassing to get hurt.

is not what you do is how you do it, the world is not black and white


Businesses as well as farms and ranches also have electric fences. Are they somehow more important that they allowed to have those security measures but a home owner is not?

first of, for what I can tell, home owners are allow to, I don't have to agree with that anyway.

farms are indeed different, they are rural, far from the tight population of the urban setting, their needs are different.

business is a broad term, but they follow an strict code of building anyway, so I actually doubt a low electric fence will be use in most cases.


You're not answering the question. If businesses are allowed to protect their property with (by your own admission) fences that aren't as low, why is it wrong for a home owner to do the same?
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I don't have a big problem with fences where the conducting cable is high enough, I always see those on my way home, but all of them are above head level, I'm not 100% happy with them being next to a school bus stop, because there higher risk than in the entrance of some factory or private parking lot.

just like driving speed limit changes depending of being in a highway or in a suburb, or law not allowing honking in residential areas, is all about the needs of the area, and the community, not a single angry dad.
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Its a bit insensitive. I get that its perfectly okay for his property to be off limits to children but surely there are healthier, nonviolent, but humorous ways to deal with annoying kids. And what exactly is he ''protecting'' himself from? Trash? The chirren? Too much drama and just lol at his lack of patience. I hope he doesnt have kids of his own


I am going to have to disagree with this statement based off this story itself. It wasn't like he didn't try and do something "less" drastic for at least 2 years prior. And also, these weren't little kindergarten kids that look cute and adorable. These are kids that are likely 12 to 17 years old, being they are middle to high school students. I love my son, but I know he can be a little shit, and he is 13.


Ok I didnt know their age, but they are still kids. They havent even completed their development neurologically. Can you even blame their asshat behavior at that age? God knows I truly only like kids Im related to lmao and that Im not an extremely sensitive person but absolutely no to people treating UNSUSPECTING children that way. Absolutely NO to mean spirited and cruel tactics to teach kids respect, but yeah Im sure one shock and they wont litter his yard again. Sure its an effective way to stop a few kids from doing that, but its a lazy solution. I will never respect the lack of empathy towards lil humans. Its like parents backhand slapping a 4 year old because of their own emotional instability, like... theres other effective ways to discipline a child you know that requires a little more effort and patience from the adult
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Honestly, at 12-17, they should have been taught what respect is by their parents. They know what is right and wrong. That's my opinion on it. Why do the kids needs to be that far into his yard in the first place? Why are they littering, instead of doing the responsible thing, and putting it in a trash bin? Why are they continuing to do it for at least 2 years, even though he has posted signs asking them to respect his property prior to him doing this? Why does the homeowner have to be the one that exhibits patience, instead of the children's parents teaching them to do better because they obviously have seen the signs for 2 years, but now make a fuss that he put up what is essentially a dog fence?

Poorly raised children don't respect other people's things and property.

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Its a bit insensitive. I get that its perfectly okay for his property to be off limits to children but surely there are healthier, nonviolent, but humorous ways to deal with annoying kids. And what exactly is he ''protecting'' himself from? Trash? The chirren? Too much drama and just lol at his lack of patience. I hope he doesnt have kids of his own


I am going to have to disagree with this statement based off this story itself. It wasn't like he didn't try and do something "less" drastic for at least 2 years prior. And also, these weren't little kindergarten kids that look cute and adorable. These are kids that are likely 12 to 17 years old, being they are middle to high school students. I love my son, but I know he can be a little shit, and he is 13.


Ok I didnt know their age, but they are still kids. They havent even completed their development neurologically. Can you even blame their asshat behavior at that age? God knows I truly only like kids Im related to lmao and that Im not an extremely sensitive person but absolutely no to people treating UNSUSPECTING children that way. Absolutely NO to mean spirited and cruel tactics to teach kids respect, but yeah Im sure one shock and they wont litter his yard again. Sure its an effective way to stop a few kids from doing that, but its a lazy solution. I will never respect the lack of empathy towards lil humans. Its like parents backhand slapping a 4 year old because of their own emotional instability, like... theres other effective ways to discipline a child you know that requires a little more effort and patience from the adult


Honestly, at 12-17, they should have been taught what respect is by their parents. They know what is right and wrong. That's my opinion on it. Why do the kids needs to be that far into his yard in the first place? Why are they littering, instead of doing the responsible thing, and putting it in a trash bin? Why are they continuing to do it for at least 2 years, even though he has posted signs asking them to respect his property prior to him doing this? Why does the homeowner have to be the one that exhibits patience, instead of the children's parents teaching them to do better because they obviously have seen the signs for 2 years, but now make a fuss that he put up what is essentially a dog fence?

Poorly raised children don't respect other people's things and property.




100% agree on respecting peoples property. But their parents might not know their kids are throwing trash in his yard. Parents cant always be held accountable for their kids behavior, its not like they are able to supervise them 24/7. Even if they could, some kids will go against what their parents teach them anyway

I get that theyguy is frustrated, and dont ask me what I would do lol... but, even if its not hurting the children in the worst way, this isnt the way to solve problems involving kids
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True. He even said all he wanted was to get people to pay attention to the problem. He already took the fence down, but I guess if that is his long term goal, to get the parents to address it, then it worked.
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Just out of curiosity. If all the little shitheads do are litter on his property, how is an electric fence going to keep them from fucking with even more. I wouldn't want to be that dude on mischief night around halloween time when they Peyton Manning rolls of TP all over his house because teenagers are assholes.

What I'm trying to say is though I understand his frustration, this seems to be an over reaction that inadvertently invited retaliation from a bunch of kids who obviously dgaf.


It will make it more appealing for them, definitely. I have lots of stories about that from people I knew growing up.

A number of the targets were horrible people, and the kids/teenagers knew it. Not justifying it, just making note. That isn't something that will be mentioned in a news story like this. Don't know for sure if it applies to this guy. What is clear to me is that he lacks intelligence if he put up a fence in a place where he wasn't legally allowed to so he had to take it down - he didn't even look that up? lol
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Just out of curiosity. If all the little shitheads do are litter on his property, how is an electric fence going to keep them from fucking with even more. I wouldn't want to be that dude on mischief night around halloween time when they Peyton Manning rolls of TP all over his house because teenagers are assholes.

What I'm trying to say is though I understand his frustration, this seems to be an over reaction that inadvertently invited retaliation from a bunch of kids who obviously dgaf.


It will make it more appealing for them, definitely. I have lots of stories about that from people I knew growing up.

A number of the targets were horrible people, and the kids/teenagers knew it. Not justifying it, just making note. That isn't something that will be mentioned in a news story like this. Don't know for sure if it applies to this guy. What is clear to me is that he lacks intelligence if he put up a fence in a place where he wasn't legally allowed to so he had to take it down - he didn't even look that up? lol
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To be fair, he probably just assumed all of the front yard was his because he has probably been maintaining all of the yard. Not saying that is right, but it was probably an assumption.

He has received threats from people, that are threatening to cause great property damage to him for doing this. I don't think he really thought about all the consequences of what putting that fence up, would possible ensue on him.
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Just out of curiosity. If all the little shitheads do are litter on his property, how is an electric fence going to keep them from fucking with even more. I wouldn't want to be that dude on mischief night around halloween time when they Peyton Manning rolls of TP all over his house because teenagers are assholes.

What I'm trying to say is though I understand his frustration, this seems to be an over reaction that inadvertently invited retaliation from a bunch of kids who obviously dgaf.


It will make it more appealing for them, definitely. I have lots of stories about that from people I knew growing up.

A number of the targets were horrible people, and the kids/teenagers knew it. Not justifying it, just making note. That isn't something that will be mentioned in a news story like this. Don't know for sure if it applies to this guy. What is clear to me is that he lacks intelligence if he put up a fence in a place where he wasn't legally allowed to so he had to take it down - he didn't even look that up? lol


To be fair, he probably just assumed all of the front yard was his because he has probably been maintaining all of the yard. Not saying that is right, but it was probably an assumption.

He has received threats from people, that are threatening to cause great property damage to him for doing this. I don't think he really thought about all the consequences of what putting that fence up, would possible ensue on him.
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I don't know how much he invested in it, but the more he did, the worse it looks that he wouldn't think a lot about what he was doing before going to the trouble.

Media can skew things, often, I realize. I'd want to talk to a few people including him to know what the problem really has been vs what he says/what has been reported that he's said, if this was happening near to me.

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I thought peeing on electric fences giving shocks was a myth.

Anyway, he can do what he likes but should put up a sign. High school kids can be douches so I don’t blame him.

Also, build the wall.


He can’t do what he likes. Each state/city has setback and height limits on where/what you are putting in your front yard.

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Posted by MademoiselleFisk

Just out of curiosity. If all the little shitheads do are litter on his property, how is an electric fence going to keep them from fucking with even more. I wouldn't want to be that dude on mischief night around halloween time when they Peyton Manning rolls of TP all over his house because teenagers are assholes.

What I'm trying to say is though I understand his frustration, this seems to be an over reaction that inadvertently invited retaliation from a bunch of kids who obviously dgaf.


It will make it more appealing for them, definitely. I have lots of stories about that from people I knew growing up.

A number of the targets were horrible people, and the kids/teenagers knew it. Not justifying it, just making note. That isn't something that will be mentioned in a news story like this. Don't know for sure if it applies to this guy. What is clear to me is that he lacks intelligence if he put up a fence in a place where he wasn't legally allowed to so he had to take it down - he didn't even look that up? lol


Were they ā€˜horrible people’? Or were they ā€˜horrible’ because they received targeted harassment?
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Horrible people who in some cases had a lot of power.
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I thought peeing on electric fences giving shocks was a myth.

Anyway, he can do what he likes but should put up a sign. High school kids can be douches so I don’t blame him.

Also, build the wall.


He can’t do what he likes. Each state/city has setback and height limits on where/what you are putting in your front yard.

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I understand that. I didn’t fulfill the pedantry requirements of writing out ā€œ..on his property, within legal and planning guidelinesā€.
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Well if you read closely, he put up the fence and signs on city property. So all these years he’s been such a grouch over students walking through his lawn and littering when ACTUALLY they are walking and littering on city property.

So ironically all he has accomplished is effectively shortening his frontage and putting his info on the city plannings black lists. Also he for sure will get sued. Somebodies kid is gonna get injured or killed (heart defects are more common than you think) and he’s gonna have to sell his house to keep up with attorneys fees.

The solution to everything in America is to sue.
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I don't see anything wrong with the man doing this, I'd do the same damn thing if people were on my property.

As others said, you're only gonna touch it once before you realise and it ain't gonna kill no one.


Read closely. It’s not his property.


And he took it down and is going to put it up on his property.. Perfectly fine and I can read, thanks so much.
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Moving the fence back within his property line doesn’t solve his problem of kids walking past his house. If he doesn’t want to see them and the liter he should build a wall or plant a hedge. Or just sell and relocate to somewhere more remote.

Moving the fence solves nothing for him.
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I don't see anything wrong with the man doing this, I'd do the same damn thing if people were on my property.

As others said, you're only gonna touch it once before you realise and it ain't gonna kill no one.


Read closely. It’s not his property.


And he took it down and is going to put it up on his property.. Perfectly fine and I can read, thanks so much.


Moving the fence back within his property line doesn’t solve his problem of kids walking past his house. If he doesn’t want to see them and the liter he should build a wall or plant a hedge. Or just sell and relocate to somewhere more remote.

Moving the fence solves nothing for him.


I agree with that. I think anyone who buys property in the middle of a busy area is an idiot, so not disagreeing with you there. Would never spend my hard earned money on a property like that.
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We have to assume he knew the school was there before he purchased. Plus 90% of the time living walking distance from a school increases your property value. I think he’s just a hater tbf.