Lunamara
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Race every “done to her” racist institution yet the family is good.lol Isn’t it the queen making these decisions
im just surprised to learn that she was surprised to learn that marrying into the royal family meant there would be restrictions on her behaviour. i mean, wasn't that obvious?
Posted by blackphvsePosted by Lunamara
Race
Like in the fact that she isn't white? How does that tie into things?
Also, I'm just confused because they gave up their titles when they moved last year, so what is their problem now?click to expand
Now they’re saying they didn’t really want to give up their rights but they don’t want to take responsibility they were given a choice that you can’t be half-in and-half out. they chose to stay out so now they’re claiming another thing.
Posted by blackphvse
I missed all the drama. I saw them on TV last night, but didn't really care to watch what was going on. Didn't they forfeit their right to anything by moving? What was this all about even?
it's on here tonight - i won't be watching it or maybe i will, decide at the time - but yes they have left now so they are free to do as they please but they aren't entitled to any money anymore, well besides what charles would give harry out of his own purse.
however i read one thing that they are no longer on speaking terms so i imagine that purse has shut to him now as well. he probably has spencer money besides his own coffers.
The queens youngest son is the Earl of Essex because there is no Duke of Essex title.
Meg should have paid attention to the hierarchy and tradition of the royal family. It could be about race, but they still had a royal title.
Now they are commoners. They are really sticking it to the royal family. 🙄
Seems like petty jealousy, more then race.
Meg should have paid attention to the hierarchy and tradition of the royal family. It could be about race, but they still had a royal title.
Now they are commoners. They are really sticking it to the royal family. 🙄
Seems like petty jealousy, more then race.
I mean they were given a year to decide! They chose💁🏻But crying about no security n prince tittle. I find out there was earl tittle on that she rejected when all she had to do was wait for chorale to be king to get prince tittle. But no it was because baby is half black
from the clip i saw it seems like it is being driven by markle but i don't think her husband is an unwilling particpant.
The monarchy probably will not make a statement but they should clear that freaking assumption she’s making about the babies title. Why am curious about the BRITs input because they really know how things work. as Americans we will believe anything she says.Makes no sense to say the queen is amazing yet they discriminated my babies title because he’s black.
Turns out it wasn’t even that it wasout of their hands and out of the orderWith protocol.
Turns out it wasn’t even that it wasout of their hands and out of the orderWith protocol.
Posted by blackphvsePosted by jeanePosted by blackphvse
I missed all the drama. I saw them on TV last night, but didn't really care to watch what was going on. Didn't they forfeit their right to anything by moving? What was this all about even?
it's on here tonight - i won't be watching it or maybe i will, decide at the time - but yes they have left now so they are free to do as they please but they aren't entitled to any money anymore, well besides what charles would give harry out of his own purse.
however i read one thing that they are no longer on speaking terms so i imagine that purse has shut to him now as well. he probably has spencer money besides his own coffers.
I just don't understand why they are whining about it now. They made their decision, and she may be able to play the fool in saying she didn't know this or didn't know that, but her hubby was born and raised in that atmosphere, he was fully aware of what that life was like. Maybe she should have discussed what the expectations of her would be before marrying into the Royal family. You'd think it would be pretty obvious, but I guess not. Lol
I just don't get why she is playing the victim now. Makes no sense to me.click to expand
Think Megan markle. Tabloids = money she will not gout in the limelight she’ll use her status in America
She said they didn’t blindside queen but she has been planning it two years.
The point is she figured staying she would not be able to make money n if divorced she’d get nothing
Nor use the time to make money. She had been secretly talking to PR people in America and had built the Royal Sussex website for branding website to make money with their titles. British government does not allow that I’m sure that pissed the queen and why they took away the titles. Now people say she was already rich yeah yet she’s bringing it up how they were left with only Diana’s money lol
She wanted to create a brangeline power house using their royal tittles.
Well now free n can use their names only . Go for it.
Posted by saggurl88
The queens youngest son is the Earl of Essex because there is no Duke of Essex title.
Meg should have paid attention to the hierarchy and tradition of the royal family. It could be about race, but they still had a royal title.
Now they are commoners. They are really sticking it to the royal family. 🙄
Seems like petty jealousy, more then race.
She knows this by now but she’s fooling Americans to think it’s because baby is part black. It’s disengenuine
I hope Harry doesn't regret marrying her. Meg is acting like her shady ass dad, IMO. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
She was not raised in this class of royalty and she's trying to forge a way of her own, out of traditions that are upheld for thousands of years, that she has no family history of.
Just trashy American style . Americans think they are supposed to walk in to a place with something handed to them. She doesn't have much respect at all for his royal status or his family traditions.
She was not raised in this class of royalty and she's trying to forge a way of her own, out of traditions that are upheld for thousands of years, that she has no family history of.
Just trashy American style . Americans think they are supposed to walk in to a place with something handed to them. She doesn't have much respect at all for his royal status or his family traditions.
Staff had to quit because of her diva behavior
Of course she discounted that. Also she had the trashynes to bring up Kate and claim Kate hemade her cry vs what had been said that Megan made Kate cry. I don’t trust this bitch .
Of course she discounted that. Also she had the trashynes to bring up Kate and claim Kate hemade her cry vs what had been said that Megan made Kate cry. I don’t trust this bitch .
I dislike her more and more. I feel so sorry for everyone involved and I have a feeling Harry will regret casting his family aside in the way he has. Cant have your cake and eat it. They wanted out so stay out, instead of jumping back into the limelight they claim to hate. There are always two sides, sadly the side of the Royal family won't be told because they don't play into the spotlight and comment much on details.
She made it sound like they left because they did not give them tittle n took away security n failed to protect them from tabloids. But the timeline out there does not prove her statements. fail to say after creating royal suxxes website queen cut tittles since u can’t use ur tittles to Make $ $ and gave them a year! She claims no security but fail to say Charles was paying for their security in Canada n partly in USA. They are freaking liars giving half truths
It's crazy to me that they are both the same age.
Posted by bmoon8
Can whatever interview that Megan Markle gave please be posted?
Here is some of it. I don't know if you tube has the full interview.
Ya'll are missing the point. Its not her being upset, THEY are upset that their child, Megan, and finally Harry's protection was removed per the institution and the royals themselves. Protection that is granted to anyone in the royal family regardless of title.
Sends a pretty clear message when they no longer care about your safety.
Sends a pretty clear message when they no longer care about your safety.
You must admit its pretty brilliant of the royal family and media machine to paint Megan as the vilain in this story. Gotta do whatever you can to distract eyes from focusing on the rape and pedophile accusations regarding the Queens own son, Prince Andrew.
Because obviously for the Queen it was far more damaging to be 'blindsided' by her grandson wanting to leave the royal titles behind, then her own son paying Epstein to rape a teenager at least 3 xs (allegedly).
Because obviously for the Queen it was far more damaging to be 'blindsided' by her grandson wanting to leave the royal titles behind, then her own son paying Epstein to rape a teenager at least 3 xs (allegedly).
Posted by LadyNeptune
You must admit its pretty brilliant of the royal family and media machine to paint Megan as the vilain in this story. Gotta do whatever you can to distract eyes from focusing on the rape and pedophile accusations regarding the Queens own son, Prince Andrew.
In that way Megan is helping with the media limelight too. But yup total distraction
Posted by LunamaraPosted by LadyNeptune
You must admit its pretty brilliant of the royal family and media machine to paint Megan as the vilain in this story. Gotta do whatever you can to distract eyes from focusing on the rape and pedophile accusations regarding the Queens own son, Prince Andrew.
In that way Megan is helping with the media limelight too. But yup total distractionclick to expand
How so? This is their first press appearance in over a year. Whereas the media works hand in hand with the institution, its a symbiotic relationship to portray the family how the royals wish to be seen by the public.
Not surprised by the outright racism they were subjected to. Imagine being pregnant and hearing discussions about 'concern' your new family has that your child's skin would be 'too dark'.
None of this is surprising.
This is the same monarchy responsible for spearheading slavery and modern day colonialism all around the globe. Its like, oh you mean the people who have gained all their power and wealth through the exploitation and subjugation and extermination of indigenous people for centuries are a bit racist?!?! I'm in shock (not).
Thing is mixed race couples experience this all the time. From both sides of the family. The difference here is that Harry is extremely scarred from his mothers death and the media's involvement. When he sees the same patterns being acted out towards his wife and now son, the media hate, the families casual disregard/adding fuel to the fire... must be very triggering. He gets all the respect for acting quickly to defend his family and remove them from this toxic environment.
None of this is surprising.
This is the same monarchy responsible for spearheading slavery and modern day colonialism all around the globe. Its like, oh you mean the people who have gained all their power and wealth through the exploitation and subjugation and extermination of indigenous people for centuries are a bit racist?!?! I'm in shock (not).
Thing is mixed race couples experience this all the time. From both sides of the family. The difference here is that Harry is extremely scarred from his mothers death and the media's involvement. When he sees the same patterns being acted out towards his wife and now son, the media hate, the families casual disregard/adding fuel to the fire... must be very triggering. He gets all the respect for acting quickly to defend his family and remove them from this toxic environment.
lol this says it all
I don't get the hate and how people can be so invested on hating a person they've never met. They're both adults and chose to be together what's the crime? Fuck ppl are so nasty. Meanwhile prince Andrew gets less hate. 🤮
Posted by LadyNeptune
Ya'll are missing the point. Its not her being upset, THEY are upset that their child, Megan, and finally Harry's protection was removed per the institution and the royals themselves. Protection that is granted to anyone in the royal family regardless of title.
Sends a pretty clear message when they no longer care about your safety.
i thought that their security was not going to be funded by the public after they gave up royal duties. before that it was fully funded by the tax payer. only when they said they would no longer be on staff did they lose that although i think at the time charles said he would pay for it from his private earnings.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by LunamaraPosted by LadyNeptune
You must admit its pretty brilliant of the royal family and media machine to paint Megan as the vilain in this story. Gotta do whatever you can to distract eyes from focusing on the rape and pedophile accusations regarding the Queens own son, Prince Andrew.
In that way Megan is helping with the media limelight too. But yup total distraction
How so? This is their first press appearance in over a year. Whereas the media works hand in hand with the institution, its a symbiotic relationship to portray the family how the royals wish to be seen by the public.click to expand
and how the public wish to see the royals. especially in the south.
Posted by bmoon8Posted by saggurl88Posted by bmoon8
Can whatever interview that Megan Markle gave please be posted?
Here is some of it. I don't know if you tube has the full interview.
What is disingenuous and a half truth on anything she said in this portion of the video?click to expand
the only thing verging on that is her incredulity about the british tabloid press. it's no secret how they operate and she was warned before she even got serious with harry about the lengths they would go to.
Posted by peachy06Posted by Scalar_ProjectionPosted by peachy06
You guys are a bit tough on her. The Royal family is shady.
I still believe to this day they have something to do with Diana's death.
I agree about people being tough on her.
I believe Meghan and Harry. I support them. I don’t understand the need to speak harshly about them.
Yeah, like people tend to forget the royal family used to side with nazis before. Besides I don't understand what they should earn so much money while doing nothing. They're paid for being "special", it's not fair. I ain't sympathizing with rich lazy famous people.click to expand
Posted by bmoon8Posted by saggurl88Posted by bmoon8
Can whatever interview that Megan Markle gave please be posted?
Here is some of it. I don't know if you tube has the full interview.
What is disingenuous and a half truth on anything she said in this portion of the video?click to expand
I didn't watch it. I was just basing my comments off the media. Kate Middleton is being run like a stepford wife as well. That's usually how it goes with royalsand traditions.
I just don't know why she married him, just to have him disowned by his own family.
I mean the race card can only carry you so far.
Posted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptune
Ya'll are missing the point. Its not her being upset, THEY are upset that their child, Megan, and finally Harry's protection was removed per the institution and the royals themselves. Protection that is granted to anyone in the royal family regardless of title.
Sends a pretty clear message when they no longer care about your safety.
i thought that their security was not going to be funded by the public after they gave up royal duties. before that it was fully funded by the tax payer. only when they said they would no longer be on staff did they lose that although i think at the time charles said he would pay for it from his private earnings.click to expand
The way I understand the time table here is that the talks of not giving Archie or her security happened while she was pregnant. After stepping back (not down altogether) from royal duties Harry’s security was also revoked.
There’s nothing to say that not having royal duties means your security is removed. Prince Andrew hasn’t had any royal duties since 2019 and has both his security and his daughters security has been maintained. The Queen made sure of it.
She’s rather keep her pedophile rapist son safe then her innocent great grandson. Full stop.
Posted by Scalar_ProjectionPosted by ArgusPosted by saggurl88
LMAO!!! 😂🤣😂
Lol how did I miss that?! 😂🤣click to expand
Hahaha... I’m still in tears over here. That is a some serious gem right there! 🤣🤣🤣
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptune
Ya'll are missing the point. Its not her being upset, THEY are upset that their child, Megan, and finally Harry's protection was removed per the institution and the royals themselves. Protection that is granted to anyone in the royal family regardless of title.
Sends a pretty clear message when they no longer care about your safety.
i thought that their security was not going to be funded by the public after they gave up royal duties. before that it was fully funded by the tax payer. only when they said they would no longer be on staff did they lose that although i think at the time charles said he would pay for it from his private earnings.
The way I understand the time table here is that the talks of not giving Archie or her security happened while she was pregnant. After stepping back (not down altogether) from royal duties Harry’s security was also revoked.
There’s nothing to say that not having royal duties means your security is removed. Prince Andrew hasn’t had any royal duties since 2019 and has both his security and his daughters security has been maintained. The Queen made sure of it.
She’s rather keep her pedophile rapist son safe then her innocent great grandson. Full stop.click to expand
i think the difference between archie and beatrice etc is that they are the grandchildren of the soveriegn, whereas archie is the great grandchild and so protocol says he is not entitiled to those privileges once chuck takes over, he would have been. .
Posted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptune
Ya'll are missing the point. Its not her being upset, THEY are upset that their child, Megan, and finally Harry's protection was removed per the institution and the royals themselves. Protection that is granted to anyone in the royal family regardless of title.
Sends a pretty clear message when they no longer care about your safety.
i thought that their security was not going to be funded by the public after they gave up royal duties. before that it was fully funded by the tax payer. only when they said they would no longer be on staff did they lose that although i think at the time charles said he would pay for it from his private earnings.
The way I understand the time table here is that the talks of not giving Archie or her security happened while she was pregnant. After stepping back (not down altogether) from royal duties Harry’s security was also revoked.
There’s nothing to say that not having royal duties means your security is removed. Prince Andrew hasn’t had any royal duties since 2019 and has both his security and his daughters security has been maintained. The Queen made sure of it.
She’s rather keep her pedophile rapist son safe then her innocent great grandson. Full stop.
i think the difference between archie and beatrice etc is that they are the grandchildren of the soveriegn, whereas archie is the great grandchild and so protocol says he is not entitiled to those privileges once chuck takes over, he would have been. .click to expand
I call bs. Archie would’ve been 7th in line to the throne whereas the prince Andrew’s daughters are 9th/10th respectively.
It’s not a privilege, it’s a necessity of being born into a wealthy powerful famous monarchy.
Having security as a member of the royal family is very much needed. The threat of assassination doesn’t go away. Being born into or married into warrants this level of protection.
Even here in the states it’s common place with our leaders and they are just in that position for a few years, not for life.
Every president has security detail, publicly funded, until they die. Whether they serve one term or 2.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptune
Ya'll are missing the point. Its not her being upset, THEY are upset that their child, Megan, and finally Harry's protection was removed per the institution and the royals themselves. Protection that is granted to anyone in the royal family regardless of title.
Sends a pretty clear message when they no longer care about your safety.
i thought that their security was not going to be funded by the public after they gave up royal duties. before that it was fully funded by the tax payer. only when they said they would no longer be on staff did they lose that although i think at the time charles said he would pay for it from his private earnings.
The way I understand the time table here is that the talks of not giving Archie or her security happened while she was pregnant. After stepping back (not down altogether) from royal duties Harry’s security was also revoked.
There’s nothing to say that not having royal duties means your security is removed. Prince Andrew hasn’t had any royal duties since 2019 and has both his security and his daughters security has been maintained. The Queen made sure of it.
She’s rather keep her pedophile rapist son safe then her innocent great grandson. Full stop.
i think the difference between archie and beatrice etc is that they are the grandchildren of the soveriegn, whereas archie is the great grandchild and so protocol says he is not entitiled to those privileges once chuck takes over, he would have been. .
I call bs. Archie would’ve been 7th in line to the throne whereas the prince Andrew’s daughters are 9th/10th respectively.
It’s not a privilege, it’s a necessity of being born into a wealthy powerful famous monarchy.
Having security as a member of the royal family is very much needed. The threat of assassination doesn’t go away. Being born into or married into warrants this level of protection.
Even here in the states it’s common place with our leaders and they are just in that position for a few years, not for life.
Every president has security detail, publicly funded, until they die. Whether they serve one term or 2.click to expand
"Under protocols established by George V in letters patent more than 100 years ago in 1917, the children and grandchildren of a sovereign have the automatic right to the title HRH and prince or princess.
At the time Archie was born, he was the great-grandchild of a sovereign, not a grandchild.
George V’s declaration sets out: “The grandchildren of the sons of any such sovereign in the direct male line (save only the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales) shall have and enjoy in all occasions the style and title enjoyed by the children of dukes of this realm.”
As such, Archie will be entitled to the titles when Prince Charles accedes the throne."
perhaps security is necessary. they can pay for it. they have enough money. i can't fathom why people who are forced to go to food banks have to pay for the security of people who came out of the "right" fanny.
Posted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptune
Ya'll are missing the point. Its not her being upset, THEY are upset that their child, Megan, and finally Harry's protection was removed per the institution and the royals themselves. Protection that is granted to anyone in the royal family regardless of title.
Sends a pretty clear message when they no longer care about your safety.
i thought that their security was not going to be funded by the public after they gave up royal duties. before that it was fully funded by the tax payer. only when they said they would no longer be on staff did they lose that although i think at the time charles said he would pay for it from his private earnings.
The way I understand the time table here is that the talks of not giving Archie or her security happened while she was pregnant. After stepping back (not down altogether) from royal duties Harry’s security was also revoked.
There’s nothing to say that not having royal duties means your security is removed. Prince Andrew hasn’t had any royal duties since 2019 and has both his security and his daughters security has been maintained. The Queen made sure of it.
She’s rather keep her pedophile rapist son safe then her innocent great grandson. Full stop.
i think the difference between archie and beatrice etc is that they are the grandchildren of the soveriegn, whereas archie is the great grandchild and so protocol says he is not entitiled to those privileges once chuck takes over, he would have been. .
I call bs. Archie would’ve been 7th in line to the throne whereas the prince Andrew’s daughters are 9th/10th respectively.
It’s not a privilege, it’s a necessity of being born into a wealthy powerful famous monarchy.
Having security as a member of the royal family is very much needed. The threat of assassination doesn’t go away. Being born into or married into warrants this level of protection.
Even here in the states it’s common place with our leaders and they are just in that position for a few years, not for life.
Every president has security detail, publicly funded, until they die. Whether they serve one term or 2.
"Under protocols established by George V in letters patent more than 100 years ago in 1917, the children and grandchildren of a sovereign have the automatic right to the title HRH and prince or princess.
At the time Archie was born, he was the great-grandchild of a sovereign, not a grandchild.
George V’s declaration sets out: “The grandchildren of the sons of any such sovereign in the direct male line (save only the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales) shall have and enjoy in all occasions the style and title enjoyed by the children of dukes of this realm.”
As such, Archie will be entitled to the titles when Prince Charles accedes the throne."
perhaps security is necessary. they can pay for it. they have enough money. i can't fathom why people who are forced to go to food banks have to pay for the security of people who came out of the "right" fanny.click to expand
I feel Mega. played on the fact most Americans don’t know this protocols plus Archie was offered a earl n she declined because. All she had to do was wait . You think that entitled attitude is not going to piss of family.
Posted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptune
Ya'll are missing the point. Its not her being upset, THEY are upset that their child, Megan, and finally Harry's protection was removed per the institution and the royals themselves. Protection that is granted to anyone in the royal family regardless of title.
Sends a pretty clear message when they no longer care about your safety.
i thought that their security was not going to be funded by the public after they gave up royal duties. before that it was fully funded by the tax payer. only when they said they would no longer be on staff did they lose that although i think at the time charles said he would pay for it from his private earnings.
The way I understand the time table here is that the talks of not giving Archie or her security happened while she was pregnant. After stepping back (not down altogether) from royal duties Harry’s security was also revoked.
There’s nothing to say that not having royal duties means your security is removed. Prince Andrew hasn’t had any royal duties since 2019 and has both his security and his daughters security has been maintained. The Queen made sure of it.
She’s rather keep her pedophile rapist son safe then her innocent great grandson. Full stop.
i think the difference between archie and beatrice etc is that they are the grandchildren of the soveriegn, whereas archie is the great grandchild and so protocol says he is not entitiled to those privileges once chuck takes over, he would have been. .
I call bs. Archie would’ve been 7th in line to the throne whereas the prince Andrew’s daughters are 9th/10th respectively.
It’s not a privilege, it’s a necessity of being born into a wealthy powerful famous monarchy.
Having security as a member of the royal family is very much needed. The threat of assassination doesn’t go away. Being born into or married into warrants this level of protection.
Even here in the states it’s common place with our leaders and they are just in that position for a few years, not for life.
Every president has security detail, publicly funded, until they die. Whether they serve one term or 2.
"Under protocols established by George V in letters patent more than 100 years ago in 1917, the children and grandchildren of a sovereign have the automatic right to the title HRH and prince or princess.
At the time Archie was born, he was the great-grandchild of a sovereign, not a grandchild.
George V’s declaration sets out: “The grandchildren of the sons of any such sovereign in the direct male line (save only the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales) shall have and enjoy in all occasions the style and title enjoyed by the children of dukes of this realm.”
As such, Archie will be entitled to the titles when Prince Charles accedes the throne."
perhaps security is necessary. they can pay for it. they have enough money. i can't fathom why people who are forced to go to food banks have to pay for the security of people who came out of the "right" fanny.click to expand
They are poor me we were left unprotected but Charles had been paying for their security so what’s the issue💁🏻
I can't believe Markle never googled Harry or the Royals after they dated. To say she had no idea what was expected of her is unbelievable too. Wouldn't she ask her Harry this important information after he proposed? Doesn't sound possible that she wouldn't ask that.
Posted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptune
Ya'll are missing the point. Its not her being upset, THEY are upset that their child, Megan, and finally Harry's protection was removed per the institution and the royals themselves. Protection that is granted to anyone in the royal family regardless of title.
Sends a pretty clear message when they no longer care about your safety.
i thought that their security was not going to be funded by the public after they gave up royal duties. before that it was fully funded by the tax payer. only when they said they would no longer be on staff did they lose that although i think at the time charles said he would pay for it from his private earnings.
The way I understand the time table here is that the talks of not giving Archie or her security happened while she was pregnant. After stepping back (not down altogether) from royal duties Harry’s security was also revoked.
There’s nothing to say that not having royal duties means your security is removed. Prince Andrew hasn’t had any royal duties since 2019 and has both his security and his daughters security has been maintained. The Queen made sure of it.
She’s rather keep her pedophile rapist son safe then her innocent great grandson. Full stop.
i think the difference between archie and beatrice etc is that they are the grandchildren of the soveriegn, whereas archie is the great grandchild and so protocol says he is not entitiled to those privileges once chuck takes over, he would have been. .
I call bs. Archie would’ve been 7th in line to the throne whereas the prince Andrew’s daughters are 9th/10th respectively.
It’s not a privilege, it’s a necessity of being born into a wealthy powerful famous monarchy.
Having security as a member of the royal family is very much needed. The threat of assassination doesn’t go away. Being born into or married into warrants this level of protection.
Even here in the states it’s common place with our leaders and they are just in that position for a few years, not for life.
Every president has security detail, publicly funded, until they die. Whether they serve one term or 2.
"Under protocols established by George V in letters patent more than 100 years ago in 1917, the children and grandchildren of a sovereign have the automatic right to the title HRH and prince or princess.
At the time Archie was born, he was the great-grandchild of a sovereign, not a grandchild.
George V’s declaration sets out: “The grandchildren of the sons of any such sovereign in the direct male line (save only the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales) shall have and enjoy in all occasions the style and title enjoyed by the children of dukes of this realm.”
As such, Archie will be entitled to the titles when Prince Charles accedes the throne."
perhaps security is necessary. they can pay for it. they have enough money. i can't fathom why people who are forced to go to food banks have to pay for the security of people who came out of the "right" fanny.click to expand
This argument is awfully like the politicians who spend trillions on 'national security' but then suddenly are worried about the national deficit when it comes to helping really people struggling during a global pandemic.
Their discussion went on to specify that they had expected Archie would be given the title of prince AFTER Charles acceded the throne, but that they had been told that protocols would be changed - in line with Charles’s wish for a slimmed down monarchy - so that Archie would be excluded from becoming an HRH and prince.
Funny how the rules can be changed to exclude the grandson who is 'too dark' from his rightful due.
But this isn't about tittles. Its about the removal of their security. And the reasoning being tied to the titles which has been disproven with Prince Andrews treatment in stark contrast.
Just watch the interview.
Remember when the royals had major misgivings about the future king having a Muslim sibling if Diana had a child with Dodi Al Fayed? Archie being denied a title checks out.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by jeanePosted by LadyNeptune
Ya'll are missing the point. Its not her being upset, THEY are upset that their child, Megan, and finally Harry's protection was removed per the institution and the royals themselves. Protection that is granted to anyone in the royal family regardless of title.
Sends a pretty clear message when they no longer care about your safety.
i thought that their security was not going to be funded by the public after they gave up royal duties. before that it was fully funded by the tax payer. only when they said they would no longer be on staff did they lose that although i think at the time charles said he would pay for it from his private earnings.
The way I understand the time table here is that the talks of not giving Archie or her security happened while she was pregnant. After stepping back (not down altogether) from royal duties Harry’s security was also revoked.
There’s nothing to say that not having royal duties means your security is removed. Prince Andrew hasn’t had any royal duties since 2019 and has both his security and his daughters security has been maintained. The Queen made sure of it.
She’s rather keep her pedophile rapist son safe then her innocent great grandson. Full stop.
i think the difference between archie and beatrice etc is that they are the grandchildren of the soveriegn, whereas archie is the great grandchild and so protocol says he is not entitiled to those privileges once chuck takes over, he would have been. .
I call bs. Archie would’ve been 7th in line to the throne whereas the prince Andrew’s daughters are 9th/10th respectively.
It’s not a privilege, it’s a necessity of being born into a wealthy powerful famous monarchy.
Having security as a member of the royal family is very much needed. The threat of assassination doesn’t go away. Being born into or married into warrants this level of protection.
Even here in the states it’s common place with our leaders and they are just in that position for a few years, not for life.
Every president has security detail, publicly funded, until they die. Whether they serve one term or 2.
"Under protocols established by George V in letters patent more than 100 years ago in 1917, the children and grandchildren of a sovereign have the automatic right to the title HRH and prince or princess.
At the time Archie was born, he was the great-grandchild of a sovereign, not a grandchild.
George V’s declaration sets out: “The grandchildren of the sons of any such sovereign in the direct male line (save only the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales) shall have and enjoy in all occasions the style and title enjoyed by the children of dukes of this realm.”
As such, Archie will be entitled to the titles when Prince Charles accedes the throne."
perhaps security is necessary. they can pay for it. they have enough money. i can't fathom why people who are forced to go to food banks have to pay for the security of people who came out of the "right" fanny.
This argument is awfully like the politicians who spend trillions on 'national security' but then suddenly are worried about the national deficit when it comes to helping really people struggling during a global pandemic.
Their discussion went on to specify that they had expected Archie would be given the title of prince AFTER Charles acceded the throne, but that they had been told that protocols would be changed - in line with Charles’s wish for a slimmed down monarchy - so that Archie would be excluded from becoming an HRH and prince.
Funny how the rules can be changed to exclude the grandson who is 'too dark' from his rightful due.
But this isn't about tittles. Its about the removal of their security. And the reasoning being tied to the titles which has been disproven with Prince Andrews treatment in stark contrast.
Just watch the interview.click to expand
i don't think i can stomach it. the whole family and their cretinous offspring should be sent far far away just like all the fairytales relay
Posted by DonnaLibra
I can't believe Markle never googled Harry or the Royals after they dated. To say she had no idea what was expected of her is unbelievable too. Wouldn't she ask her Harry this important information after he proposed? Doesn't sound possible that she wouldn't ask that.
I agree!
I read a quote that said she didn't know she was supposed to curtsey in front of The Queen. IT'S ROYALTY. She made herself sound like a self absorbed idiot. " I just thought it was your grandmother"
Who doesn't look up customs, but thinks they can just wing it LMAO
Posted by GC11_
I don’t understand why all the hate and the blame is going on her? Harry is a grown man and made his own personal life decisions.
That’s what I’m saying. What we are witnessing is typical catty behaviour where women blame other women who got what they aspire to have. Meghan can be whatever but what exactly is Harry? An infant with no mind of his own. All these machinations of an airhead who apparently was walking on a cloud and had no clue what being a loyal entailed?
Posted by aquarius09Posted by GC11_
I don’t understand why all the hate and the blame is going on her? Harry is a grown man and made his own personal life decisions.
That’s what I’m saying. What we are witnessing is typical catty behaviour where women blame other women who got what they aspire to have. Meghan can be whatever but what exactly is Harry? An infant with no mind of his own. All these machinations of an airhead who apparently was walking on a cloud and had no clue what being a loyal entailed?click to expand
someone who knows the royal family told me "everyone thinks of harry in diana's image but make no mistake, he is charles' son too". that boy knows exactly what he is doing and what he was going to do by bringing meghan into the fold.
Leo Sun and Merc with Libra Moon and Cancer Rising. What a terrible chart. Over emotionality mixed with self absorption/drama and playing the victim while still trying to appear nice. Most people had no idea she was black until she started to pull out the race card every turn. It's not like she was marching at BLM protests and fighting injustice. Also, she might want to be careful about invoking talk of suicide. There are people with actual issues related to suicide not some trivial issue from an over privileged opportunist pandering for sympathy.
Posted by xiongmaoPosted by aquarius09Posted by GC11_
I don’t understand why all the hate and the blame is going on her? Harry is a grown man and made his own personal life decisions.
That’s what I’m saying. What we are witnessing is typical catty behaviour where women blame other women who got what they aspire to have. Meghan can be whatever but what exactly is Harry? An infant with no mind of his own. All these machinations of an airhead who apparently was walking on a cloud and had no clue what being a loyal entailed?
It’s probably a bit of both I think...that they both didn’t think too much on what needs to be done outside of just being love.click to expand
If I have to ascribe this quixotic behaviour to anything, it would be she’s a double fantasists with that Leo sun and Libra moon. She was lovestruck and paid no heed to practicalities.
My sis with her Libra moon and Leo Venus and Mars is like that too. Oh, how little they think about the future or consequences.
In the news, they were mainly talking about the racism of the royal family. I can’t get my head around the actual conversation between Meghan and the “royal”. How does one express concern to a mother, that her son may....look like her?! And what would the point of that conversation be?
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Spoiler alert!
In the interview she made statements come to find out half truths
This si way different then what it was made out to be.
There is a process and rules but appearantly those don’t apply to her or else allegations are made ...
I just found out there is a process for making Archie a prince
“Archie wouldn’t be prince initially but once Charles is king he would be entitled. It doesn’t make since that she was upset he wouldn’t be a prince but declined to make him an Earl. “ this paints a clearer picture and again just shows what a lying bitch she is presenting half truths.
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