Men's rights and abortion

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Posted by Ssuperman
Whew! Tough subject, I know!

Do you think men should have a say in wether or not the pregnancy goes full term?

We deserve a male pill that doesn't make men sterile or kill themselves.

Though if that happen...so many industries would be fucked that profit off of "accidents" . 😐

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Posted by Shadowcat
Posted by SirHorns
Posted by Ssuperman
Whew! Tough subject, I know!

Do you think men should have a say in wether or not the pregnancy goes full term?

We deserve a male pill that doesn't make men sterile or kill themselves.

Though if that happen...so many industries would be fucked that profit off of "accidents" . 😐

Yeah, I really think that people reacted poorly to the news regarding the male birth control pills

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Very poorly. I mean women have multiple options for birth control and yet we STILL have the issue of unwanted pregnancy. Giving men another option besides abstinence or condoms (which break) seems like a reasonable action to do.

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Posted by rekt
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What about this. Woman determines it's a mistake or not the right time, gets abortion.

Man determines same thing, has zero say.

do you really think it would be okay for a man to force a woman to get an abortion if she doesn't want one?

what you're not understand is how traumatic this shit is to the woman and what it does to a woman's body and emotions.

a man will never have to deal with it. so why should he get say in it?

also if a woman gets enough abortions she is not able to have kids anymore. a man will never have to deal with that either.

give me your ideas about why it's an equal thing and why you think it should be both of them that decides.

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Well, for one.....ITS HIS FREAKING KID!

This conversation goes both ways. Carry or abort

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Only @Hare and @GetMisted can derail a thread in 2 pages, flat.

As for the question, I think that both need to have a conversation about it together. But ultimately, it is the woman that will have the power to decide.

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Posted by Ssuperman
Posted by rekt
Posted by Ssuperman
What about this. Woman determines it's a mistake or not the right time, gets abortion.

Man determines same thing, has zero say.

do you really think it would be okay for a man to force a woman to get an abortion if she doesn't want one?

what you're not understand is how traumatic this shit is to the woman and what it does to a woman's body and emotions.

a man will never have to deal with it. so why should he get say in it?

also if a woman gets enough abortions she is not able to have kids anymore. a man will never have to deal with that either.

give me your ideas about why it's an equal thing and why you think it should be both of them that decides.

Well, for one.....ITS HIS FREAKING KID!

This conversation goes both ways. Carry or abort

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Yes, is his kid too, unfortunately this society sees mothers as the main person who MUST take care of kids, if the father dissapeared later (something that happens quite often in non comitted rships) is she who takes all the responsability. This leaves men a little bit out of the situation.

It's not a perfect situation, there cannot be a half way decision, one of them will "win" and making one person carry a baby 9 months inside her (with all the consequences this has, according to health, both physical and mental, finances etc.), and obliging her to take care of him is unfair. Is her body and she must face more responsabilities, so in my opinion is her who has the last word.

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Posted by Hare
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Posted by GetMisted
This debate would be moot if women would just learn to like anal.

Still can get her preggers if you creampie her butt and it leaks out into the cooter.

Those are some determined swimmers!

The guy must have take some Peter North brand Zinc pills.

I've read that it's possible. Unlikely. But possible.

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Or after he left she shoved it up there and elevated her legs for 20mins.

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Posted by Feral_doe
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Only @Hare and @GetMisted can derail a thread in 2 pages, flat.

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That was me. I didn't wanna laugh but I did.

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I'm pretty sure one or the other derails every thread.

All you gotta do is bring up tacos, whiskey, bacon, or burritos and it's derailed. Oh yea, or anything related to the butthole, as well.

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Posted by Feral_doe
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Posted by nikkistar
Only @Hare and @GetMisted can derail a thread in 2 pages, flat.

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That was me. I didn't wanna laugh but I did.

I'm pretty sure one or the other derails every thread.

All you gotta do is bring up tacos, whiskey, bacon, or burritos and it's derailed. Oh yea, or anything related to the butthole, as well.

They are consistent, I'll give 'em that ?

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The funny part is, they have no idea I am currently talking shit about them. lolol

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Posted by Hare
Posted by nikkistar
Posted by Feral_doe
Posted by nikkistar
Posted by Feral_doe
Posted by nikkistar
Only @Hare and @GetMisted can derail a thread in 2 pages, flat.

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That was me. I didn't wanna laugh but I did.

I'm pretty sure one or the other derails every thread.

All you gotta do is bring up tacos, whiskey, bacon, or burritos and it's derailed. Oh yea, or anything related to the butthole, as well.

They are consistent, I'll give 'em that ?

The funny part is, they have no idea I am currently talking shit about them. lolol

We just don't care.

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😢

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Posted by Hare
If you as a man, were given the option to carry and birth the child yourself if she wanted to abort it (and the medical technology existed to do that), would you carry that child?

That's an equally put question sir

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Posted by Hare
If you as a man, were given the option to carry and birth the child yourself if she wanted to abort it (and the medical technology existed to do that), would you carry that child?

Putting it in terms that way, that is a difficult decision. Because essentially that child would have a parent that did not want him/her to be born.

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It's tricky enough to me - I can see both sides of the argument - that I make sure that the men I'm involved with are in agreement with me about what should be done if I get pregnant.

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Posted by Hare
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If you as a man, were given the option to carry and birth the child yourself if she wanted to abort it (and the medical technology existed to do that), would you carry that child?

Putting it in terms that way, that is a difficult decision. Because essentially that child would have a parent that did not want him/her to be born.

That's a whole other can of worms that I won't get into because I'll flip my shit and rage delete.

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No no no, can't have another Tier 1 delete.

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Kind of. I can see both sides of the story equally. As a male however I'm going to judge this on how I feel myself. For me I wouldn't just knock up a woman, and if I did it would be a planned event. For me to just run around cumming in every woman I find, then get upset when she doesn't want a baby is careless. Its like saying "Suprise I've impregnated you and now you have to carry my baby 9 months, give birth, then let me have it since you don't want it." He still has the right to try and talk her out of it though.

So my point on this is the man should never be in this situation in the first place. The man should be smart enough to not try and make a baby unless everyone is well aware a baby is being made.

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Posted by rekt
@ssuperman why don't you lay down some solid opinions instead of creating a shitstorm and then pussying out? this is a touchy subject. but if you're going to oppose women's rights at least explain why. i'm listening.

Opinions? I'm asking for others opinions.

I agree that it's a very touchy subject.

I'm not opposing anything in this thread so don't cast projections upon me.

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On a side note, I have a scenario for you men.

Say you have began dating a woman 3-4 months prior, and she finds out she is pregnant. However, there is a slim possibility that the child was not fathered by you. Would you want her to keep it?

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Posted by rekt
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@ssuperman why don't you lay down some solid opinions instead of creating a shitstorm and then pussying out? this is a touchy subject. but if you're going to oppose women's rights at least explain why. i'm listening.

Opinions? I'm asking for others opinions.

I agree that it's a very touchy subject.

I'm not opposing anything in this thread so don't cast projections upon me.

this is why you're such a pussy. you're asking for other people to out their opinions on this subject but you're refusing to do it yourself. lol what a joke you are.

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Listen here bud. I'll give my opinion when I'm god damned good and ready to!

Look got it on page 13

I'd like to see others opinions before I state mine and the thread get totally derailed with people bashing me.

We already have ass play and butt babies in here

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Posted by Hare
I'm thinking about taking some beef brisket and braising it in soy, ginger, garlic, and gochujang, then shredding it and putting it in a tortilla with shredded cabbage and carrots and maybe onion and cilantro....

I suggest just a little bit of sugar as well in the braising sauce, and possibly topping it with toasted sesame seeds.

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Posted by MagicMona
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If you as a man, were given the option to carry and birth the child yourself if she wanted to abort it (and the medical technology existed to do that), would you carry that child?

i wonder who would say yes. who is brave enough to want to experience childbirth as a man?

Not me. I pass out when I see some of the poops I make in the morning. Something the size of a baby? Hell no. You ladies have the strength for that. I don't.

that's terrible 😆

unclench your muscles! dont fight, and push!

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think lollipops and rainbows!

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Posted by Hare
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I'm thinking about taking some beef brisket and braising it in soy, ginger, garlic, and gochujang, then shredding it and putting it in a tortilla with shredded cabbage and carrots and maybe onion and cilantro....

I suggest just a little bit of sugar as well in the braising sauce, and possibly topping it with toasted sesame seeds.

I'll use honey.

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That works. What about sesame oil?

I usually do a oyster sauce, gochujang, sugar, sesame oil, ginger, garlic, and scallion marinade.

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Posted by nikkistar
On a side note, I have a scenario for you men.

Say you have began dating a woman 3-4 months prior, and she finds out she is pregnant. However, there is a slim possibility that the child was not fathered by you. Would you want her to keep it?

I'd find out If it was or not with tests then decide.

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Posted by Soul
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On a side note, I have a scenario for you men.

Say you have began dating a woman 3-4 months prior, and she finds out she is pregnant. However, there is a slim possibility that the child was not fathered by you. Would you want her to keep it?

I'd find out If it was or was or not with tests then decide.

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The DNA test that can be done in the time frame an abortion can be done is hyper expensive. Would you still do that?

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Posted by nikkistar
Posted by Soul
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On a side note, I have a scenario for you men.

Say you have began dating a woman 3-4 months prior, and she finds out she is pregnant. However, there is a slim possibility that the child was not fathered by you. Would you want her to keep it?

I'd find out If it was or was or not with tests then decide.

The DNA test that can be done in the time frame an abortion can be done is hyper expensive. Would you still do that?

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Why would I want her to abort it though? I mean If it turned out the baby wasn't mine I'd just leave her. Unless I got attached and realized the true father was trash for being careless and decided I could do better for the child then he ever could.

Honestly it's hard to tell. My opinions and emotions can take a wide variety of turns.

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Posted by Soul
Posted by nikkistar
Posted by Soul
Posted by nikkistar
On a side note, I have a scenario for you men.

Say you have began dating a woman 3-4 months prior, and she finds out she is pregnant. However, there is a slim possibility that the child was not fathered by you. Would you want her to keep it?

I'd find out If it was or was or not with tests then decide.

The DNA test that can be done in the time frame an abortion can be done is hyper expensive. Would you still do that?

Why would I want her to abort it though? I mean If it turned out the baby wasn't mine I'd just leave her. Unless I got attached and realized the true father was trash for being careless and decided I could do better for the child then he ever could.

Honestly it's hard to tell. My opinions and emotions can take a wide variety of turns.

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I ask this question cause it is just a scenario I have seen before. Some men are capable of loving a child without it being his "blood", and some men just do not have the capability to do that.

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Posted by nikkistar
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Posted by nikkistar
Posted by Soul
Posted by nikkistar
On a side note, I have a scenario for you men.

Say you have began dating a woman 3-4 months prior, and she finds out she is pregnant. However, there is a slim possibility that the child was not fathered by you. Would you want her to keep it?

I'd find out If it was or was or not with tests then decide.

The DNA test that can be done in the time frame an abortion can be done is hyper expensive. Would you still do that?

Why would I want her to abort it though? I mean If it turned out the baby wasn't mine I'd just leave her. Unless I got attached and realized the true father was trash for being careless and decided I could do better for the child then he ever could.

Honestly it's hard to tell. My opinions and emotions can take a wide variety of turns.

I ask this question cause it is just a scenario I have seen before. Some men are capable of loving a child without it being his "blood", and some men just do not have the capability to do that.

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I think I comes with the care for the woman too. If the man truly cares about the woman he will adapt and ride with the waves at all costs for her protection.

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Posted by Soul
Posted by nikkistar
Posted by Soul
Posted by nikkistar
Posted by Soul
Posted by nikkistar
On a side note, I have a scenario for you men.

Say you have began dating a woman 3-4 months prior, and she finds out she is pregnant. However, there is a slim possibility that the child was not fathered by you. Would you want her to keep it?

I'd find out If it was or was or not with tests then decide.

The DNA test that can be done in the time frame an abortion can be done is hyper expensive. Would you still do that?

Why would I want her to abort it though? I mean If it turned out the baby wasn't mine I'd just leave her. Unless I got attached and realized the true father was trash for being careless and decided I could do better for the child then he ever could.

Honestly it's hard to tell. My opinions and emotions can take a wide variety of turns.

I ask this question cause it is just a scenario I have seen before. Some men are capable of loving a child without it being his "blood", and some men just do not have the capability to do that.

I think I comes with the care for the woman too. If the man truly cares about the woman he will adapt and ride with the waves at all costs for her protection.

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Good answer.

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Posted by rekt
Posted by Soul
Posted by nikkistar
Posted by Soul
Posted by nikkistar
Posted by Soul
Posted by nikkistar
On a side note, I have a scenario for you men.

Say you have began dating a woman 3-4 months prior, and she finds out she is pregnant. However, there is a slim possibility that the child was not fathered by you. Would you want her to keep it?

I'd find out If it was or was or not with tests then decide.

The DNA test that can be done in the time frame an abortion can be done is hyper expensive. Would you still do that?

Why would I want her to abort it though? I mean If it turned out the baby wasn't mine I'd just leave her. Unless I got attached and realized the true father was trash for being careless and decided I could do better for the child then he ever could.

Honestly it's hard to tell. My opinions and emotions can take a wide variety of turns.

I ask this question cause it is just a scenario I have seen before. Some men are capable of loving a child without it being his "blood", and some men just do not have the capability to do that.

I think I comes with the care for the woman too. If the man truly cares about the woman he will adapt and ride with the waves at all costs for her protection.

you just said you'd leave her. now it's all about riding the waves for her protection? lmao

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I actually said two things and believe both could be equally the outcome. I assuming you only read the first sentence of the post. Not surprised.

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I believe it's ultimately the woman's decision. I'd like my say in it and there's no way I could agree to an abortion unless the child or the mother was in grave danger. If she wanted an abortion, I'd probably beg and plead for her to deliver and sign over all rights to me.

I'll never have to face this dilemma as I took precautions and got the snip.

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Posted by Hare
Posted by LadyNeptune
This is why it's vital to talk about this potential senerio with your sexual partner. What would we do if we got pregnant? Make sure you are on the same page.

That's the adult thing to do. STFU.

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Hey if your not prepared to do the adult thing than you shouldn't have any say in what the female chooses to do with the pregnancy.

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Posted by Hare
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Posted by GetMisted
This debate would be moot if women would just learn to like anal.

Still can get her preggers if you creampie her butt and it leaks out into the cooter.

Those are some determined swimmers!

The guy must have take some Peter North brand Zinc pills.

I've read that it's possible. Unlikely. But possible.

Or after he left she shoved it up there and elevated her legs for 20mins.

Or he didn't get a DNA test to make sure it was his kid.

Either way...it's a bad situation and you know that kid is just going to be shitty.

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Pun intended

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Posted by Hare
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by Hare
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by Hare
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by Hare
Posted by GetMisted
This debate would be moot if women would just learn to like anal.

Still can get her preggers if you creampie her butt and it leaks out into the cooter.

Those are some determined swimmers!

The guy must have take some Peter North brand Zinc pills.

I've read that it's possible. Unlikely. But possible.

Or after he left she shoved it up there and elevated her legs for 20mins.

Or he didn't get a DNA test to make sure it was his kid.

Either way...it's a bad situation and you know that kid is just going to be shitty.

Pun intended

What pun? IDK what you're talking about.

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Cumming in the ass...resulting kid being 'shitty'.

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Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by Hare
Posted by LadyNeptune
This is why it's vital to talk about this potential senerio with your sexual partner. What would we do if we got pregnant? Make sure you are on the same page.

That's the adult thing to do. STFU.

Hey if your not prepared to do the adult thing than you shouldn't have any say in what the female chooses to do with the pregnancy.

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Pro abortion women are VERY vocal about the

fact that accidents do happen.

Even the best-laid plans (as it were), can go

wrong.

So what then?

Just something to consider.

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Posted by Montgomery
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by Hare
Posted by LadyNeptune
This is why it's vital to talk about this potential senerio with your sexual partner. What would we do if we got pregnant? Make sure you are on the same page.

That's the adult thing to do. STFU.

Hey if your not prepared to do the adult thing than you shouldn't have any say in what the female chooses to do with the pregnancy.

Pro abortion women are VERY vocal about the

fact that accidents do happen.

Even the best-laid plans (as it were), can go

wrong.

So what then?

Just something to consider.

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Right, and their women...

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Posted by Hare
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by Hare
Posted by LadyNeptune
This is why it's vital to talk about this potential senerio with your sexual partner. What would we do if we got pregnant? Make sure you are on the same page.

That's the adult thing to do. STFU.

Hey if your not prepared to do the adult thing than you shouldn't have any say in what the female chooses to do with the pregnancy.

Look...you're speaking adultey gibberish right meow...you're going to rile up the peasants.

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The peasants were already riled. Now its a riot.

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Posted by rekt
is a man going to be the one taking the baby to full term? because if not. nope. it's no ones right to hold someone elses body hostage.

I completely agree. What separates men from women is reproductive independence. Men can't begin to know what this is like. It's my body so it's my choice.

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Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by Montgomery
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by Hare
Posted by LadyNeptune
This is why it's vital to talk about this potential senerio with your sexual partner. What would we do if we got pregnant? Make sure you are on the same page.

That's the adult thing to do. STFU.

Hey if your not prepared to do the adult thing than you shouldn't have any say in what the female chooses to do with the pregnancy.

Pro abortion women are VERY vocal about the

fact that accidents do happen.

Even the best-laid plans (as it were), can go

wrong.

So what then?

Just something to consider.

Right, and their women...

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I just read your entire exchange-- I didn't

"Click to expand" before I posted.

You and I are on the same page.

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My best friend and I just had this argument a few days ago. He believes men should have equal say and I see where he's coming from but at the same time the woman is laying down and the man is putting it in. Simple as that. The man normally has control over the situation, and I'm not saying nature doesn't sometimes want to take over and make a man not want to pull out. I also realize it could happen even without fully cumming inside of the woman. Bottom line is where is the rubber? It's the man's dick, and he's already got her swooned to the point of her accepting him. It's not her responsibly to control his dick either imo.

I honestly believe this issues has been blown out of proportion for drama. Somewhere down the line someone wanted some drama, and it's carried a chain reaction like most things on the internet and in the media. The human race invented condoms for a reason, so imo these situations have no excuse.

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